gisi gisi — toki kili pi toki pona tan namako Kolisin

[lament ingot]

yea

[remote junco]

thinking about how kyū was written with like kefu

[azure gulch]

p underwent lenition hell into h

[lament ingot]

*kyou

[lament ingot]

later it was also applied using the same logic to k-row and r-row

not sokuon
mu was same as n, sokuon was same as tsu

[remote junco]

oh right

I get my names mixed up

[balmy solstice]

oh neat, writing kyou gives me today's date

[azure gulch]

sometimes i pronounced 今日 and specifically 今日 as kep or keu sometimes jst bcz of this

just for fun

[lament ingot]

oh what cool

[lament ingot]

i was doing shiritori and it was ke

i tried to put kyou

[azure gulch]

type はんだくてん

or just だくてん

[lament ingot]

wait don't tell me it does that

[balmy solstice]

holy shit

wait

[azure gulch]

it gives u the thing

[balmy solstice]

゛

[azure gulch]

voila

ome

[balmy solstice]

゜

[azure gulch]

i think it works on all jpn imes

its js a neat feature

今日は令和6年5月3日

[balmy solstice]

キ゜シ　キ゜シ

[azure gulch]

augh jesus

that is not nice to read

[balmy solstice]

too bad the handakuten doesn't combine

[azure gulch]

i forgot my spare phone was on jpn localisation and was wondering why 令 is rendered in jpn font

[azure gulch]

yeah unfortunate maybe

[balmy solstice]

oh is this like the reiwa thing

[azure gulch]

yes

reiwa 6 may 2nd

bring back era names why is jpn the only nation doing era names properly now smh

[lament ingot]

き゚しき゚し

that took a while

era names are cool

[balmy solstice]

for some reason that first kanji changes into 令 whenever i tap it:
令和6年5月2日
is that just a style difference thing

[azure gulch]

font

han unification

[lament ingot]

you can do it

[azure gulch]

does the bottom render as ㄗ this

if no then ur device probably defaults to a chinese font

jp kr has a ㄗ this thing

cn has a マ

[azure gulch]

chinese font

[lament ingot]

https://symbl.cc/en/309A/ for handakuten
https://symbl.cc/en/3099/ for dakuten
push copy on the website and paste it directly after your kana

[azure gulch]

亼
卩

formation

fun

[balmy solstice]

゚゚゚ば゚

[azure gulch]

x/p/ anu seme

[strong tartan]

/ɸ/

[lament ingot]

you can even do ゟ゚

[balmy solstice]

a゚

[azure gulch]

poor yori

handakutened

[balmy solstice]

k゚isi k゚isi

[lament ingot]

i can't see any hentaigana but if i could i'd put it on one of them

[azure gulch]

real

[balmy solstice]

기゚시 기゚시

[azure gulch]

흐어 히 이시 이시 시 흐른

nasa maybe

노므넌

ナムネン

ノムネン?

[lament ingot]

i've managed to do a hentaigana 𛃆゚

can anyone see that

[azure gulch]

yay

i dont have a font for it no

which one is it

[lament ingot]

qu'e lastima

[lament ingot]

ma but based on 滿

[azure gulch]

i see

[azure gulch]

可か will always be cool to me

[lament ingot]

what's that

[azure gulch]

huh i always read this as 多た lol

whoops

[azure gulch]

the one that looks suspiciously like の

[lament ingot]

oh yea

its variant is

[azure gulch]

aye

[balmy solstice]

are you doing
a:ㅗ
e:ㅓ
i:ㅣ
u:ㅡ
?

[azure gulch]

yes that was toki Osukas system

its interesting

[azure gulch]

a ㅗ btw

[balmy solstice]

a

i mean

ㅗ

[azure gulch]

yee

[balmy solstice]

alright, good to know

[azure gulch]

augh 3am moment

photo shoot tmr

‘uge si magi

[lament ingot]

i love this thank you for using varying headnouns for me

[azure gulch]

i try mey best

[remote junco]

hentaigana are so fucking cool

thank you epiku Osuka for mentioning them

[lament ingot]

yea i love hentaigana

[remote junco]

yeah!!

they’re so weird!! it’s in the name!!

gisi gisi writing system based off of hentaigana when

[lament ingot]

yeaa

[lament ingot]

actually

not hard to do

[remote junco]

true!

[chilly urchin]

gisigana

[lament ingot]

man'yougana style

[remote junco]

man'yougana would be pretty easy, there’s a lot of hanzi

of course choosing ones that make sense for gg syllables would take some etymological research, but that’s always fun

well not really etymology. Like historical sounds

[chilly urchin]

Yeah

It would be sauce some

[lament ingot]

i meant use a different hentaigana for each occurence of a syllable

like

use whichever one you want

[remote junco]

ohhh

yeah I see

[lament ingot]

hentaigana evolved from man'yougana (in which there were many characters for each syllable) that's why i referenced it

[remote junco]

true!

and over time some of these hentaigana became not hentai, whence hiragana

[lament ingot]

yea

meiji period standardization

[remote junco]

ya

although hentaigana is just a… retronym? is that the right term

[lament ingot]

yea

another meiji innovation

wait namako o i realized something last night while thinking about tokiponists; mi o dm e sina a

[remote junco]

alrighty!

[wicked hedge]

oh sona

[atomic halo]

woah . namunen gisi gisi

[wicked hedge]

namunen si g

[chilly urchin]

namunen is like writing or a scar or an image

[wicked hedge]

oh cool

[chilly urchin]

We have been experimenting using it for nasa

[wicked hedge]

yea we were namunening in diff scripts

[chilly urchin]

Because those are nasa in relation to what they're onto

[atomic halo]

namunen so cool love her

[looking at a painting] these chicken scratches are delectable

[azure gulch]

'uge si ka paka sesli 'ulun

'upune ka ka s menu 'ulun si kipa n

g si pes 'uge

[atomic halo]

ka 'ispi kemu si kipa >:]

[chilly urchin]

:] ka 'ispi

[azure gulch]

'uge si kipa ka ka g si pes 'uge

[atomic halo]

n....

[azure gulch]

em không muốn về nhà

(this is like the only sentence i know in vn)

[chilly urchin]

ka 'ispi kemu si leme ka las'e sesli pagkan

[azure gulch]

nnn

[atomic halo]

kemu 'i pagkan [nasa] si gamu ka silen paka mukaski

[bronze relic]

gisi

[chilly urchin]

gisi las'e *

:J

[atomic halo]

menu Su'i

ka 'ispi kemu 'i pukis lu si gamu

[smoky forge]

um actually Taiwan still kinda does this they just don't reset it after the start of the republic 🤓

[azure gulch]

i know

boring

switch it up

[smoky forge]

:)

[atomic halo]

megan 'askalis - butter

[atomic halo]

guys 'uge si so kepus

[chilly urchin]

D:

[atomic halo]

'ulun si SALIN s

[atomic halo]

kanesu kales ka kipa 'ulun salin 'i lus si las'e

[remote junco]

what is cái like

not the classifier, the focus

perhaps it could a good parallel for ‘ispi usage

[wispy tendon]

Like cái con thằn lằn lớn

this lizard is big

This is as far as I know about the usage but Ka'i has mentioned uhhhhh

Different from này

akesi kiwen Knife (she/they/it) [ Pentagram | Noneko ] ↩️

[Reply to:](#1220981267076481077 message) this lizard is big

thì but that one is different

akesi kiwen Knife (she/they/it) [ Pentagram | Noneko ] ↩️

[Reply to:](#1220981267076481077 message) This is as far as I know about the usage but Ka'i has mentioned uhhhhh

cái con thằn lằn này lớn

correctiln

[remote junco]

lon…

[remote junco]

yeah, it seems to be for topical focus

‘ispi is about general focus

so I was making a connection with red thread on the corkboard in my head

[wispy tendon]

You still need này which is 'ispi

so it's like 'ispi 'ispi

[remote junco]

I like these example sentences

[wispy tendon]

gives knife
go, do a crime

[remote junco]

oh I know này is like a demonstrative

[wispy tendon]

Also why is knife con dao

[remote junco]

but like. I’m talking bigly here

[wispy tendon]

hold omn

[remote junco]

knives are considered animate

[wicked hedge]

that would make sense

[remote junco]

mostly with the pretense of motion being ingrained into the object

[wispy tendon]

That's funny

[remote junco]

similar case with rivers, roads, etc.

[wispy tendon]

Good

[wicked hedge]

i know one system with a member called knives, and another with one who i'd assume by your display name (akesi o • namako ala o) is called knife

[wispy tendon]

Hrrgghh but this is lacking đi explain this @atomic halo

akesi kiwen Knife (she/they/it) [ Pentagram | Noneko ] ↩️

[Reply to:](#1220981267076481077 message) You still need này which is 'ispi 📎

ghehehe, that's me

seme Osuka ↩️

[Reply to:](#1220981267076481077 message) i know one system with a member called knives, and another with one who i'd assume by your display n…

[wicked hedge]

are you animate

[remote junco]

as in ‘ispi beyond the demonstrative usage

[wispy tendon]

nods

[remote junco]

like I’ve used it for taso’s “only, just” meanings sort of

so it feels like it and cái can have overlap in this sense of focus

it’s important to the sentence

we’ll let pukis Ka‘i talk more about this when he’s on

[wispy tendon]

We all sit like um

You know

Those two robots that are gay and they sit on the front of the screen

Beak and ball

We're overlayed

[remote junco]

BEAK AND BALL nxnsjncjjs

I’m the human i think

[wispy tendon]

Wait it's not just the robots???

Damn

[wind compass]

that's how you draw a bird head i think

[balmy solstice]

cataquack!!

[wind compass]

frfr

[remote junco]

yeah, you have Crow, Tom Servo, [human], and Gypsy

Gypsy usually shows up in the intermissive skits

[human] is a stand-in because the exact person and character varies from season to season

[wispy tendon]

Ohhhh nooo not the character named after a slur !!!!

[remote junco]

real

[remote junco]

within the first few seasons, it was Joel Hodgeson, who is also the producer and writer for the show

then it was changed to Mike Nelson in later seasons, and in the reboot, it was Jonah Heston

except for Joel, these are all separate character names

although iirc Jonah’s actor is also named Jonah, just with a different last name

[wispy tendon]

More like not real, tsk tsk. Slurs for Romani people ain't cool

namako Kolisin ↩️

[Reply to:](#1220981267076481077 message) real

I do like the character design

VINNY ???

namako Kolisin ↩️

[Reply to:](#1220981267076481077 message) except for Joel, these are all separate character names

[remote junco]

that’s true. it’s only a name for the purple vacuum robot lady that comes from the ceiling now

[wispy tendon]

Really funny actually

namako Kolisin ↩️

[Reply to:](#1220981267076481077 message) although iirc Jonah’s actor is also named Jonah, just with a different last name

[remote junco]

but otherwise the robots are a staple (as they should be)

the reboot also throws in some robots of Jonah’s own design, whose names i forgot

[wispy tendon]

Crazy that they made trans and polyam robots

[remote junco]

one is a clone of Grover from the Muppets in spirit and the other is an annoyance

it’s really interesting seeing how crow and tom react to their human roommate since they have different reactions to them

they seem quite distasteful of Jonah’s attempts at making more robot friends

and also get very allusive and metaphysical about their relationship with Jonah compared to their previous cohabitators

often remarking that they liked Joel the best

[wispy tendon]

That's like really fucked actually

namako Kolisin ↩️

[Reply to:](#1220981267076481077 message) they seem quite distasteful of Jonah’s attempts at making more robot friends

A guy you don't like that much comes and starts making more of your species

[remote junco]

they’re kind of borderline toxic I think

[remote junco]

real

I think that’s like all humans

species of wisecracker robots

although iirc Tom seems slightly unaffected by the idea of himself being duplicated, considering that was the basis of a skit in the reboot

i forgot what the plot was exactly but by the end you had like 8 different separate Tom Servos with different personalities

it’s a really interesting show to dissect beyond roasting B movies

[atomic halo]

what is cái

[chilly urchin]

It is used as emphasis when not used as classifier

Like

Well

What knife said

If the classifier is not already cái that is

[atomic halo]

ah yeah it is

kind of in a sassy way

i dunno it's kind of only a focus marker as far as like. it adds more words to the phrase i think??

also that one didn't have a đi because imperative markers are optional if it's obvious

it's just not having markers sounds really rough

when a parent or something says it to a child they don't really have to namako up their command if they really don't wanna but like it would still be cool to have and sound more polite yk

i usually hear sentence-final cái though

it's kind of a more emotionally neutral imperative marker that gives off like "help me out over heah ..."

[atomic halo]

this is like a whole thing btw we take hierarchy seriously linguistically

it manifests through both special alt words for superiors - saying vâng instead of ừ - and touching up your speech a lot more than your superior would have to

saying ạ after sentences and using polite markers and such

no subject dropping if your superior is really stuck up

so you have to answer a question with like em làm rồi ạ instead of just rồi ạ

not doing it is called.. what's the word

cộc lốc?

[[w:wikt:cộc lốc]]

[opal basin]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/w:wikt:cộc_lốc

[atomic halo]

yup

[[w:wikt:cái]]

[opal basin]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/w:wikt:cái

[atomic halo]

oh what no mention of its sentence-final use?? shameful.

im curious what you were planning with this and 'ispi though kolisin

[atomic halo]

i see...

[chilly urchin]

Too dialectal

[atomic halo]

IT'S DIALECTAL?? my northern is showing...

uhm well there you have it though! cái is a focus marker sort of the same way a! is an emphasis marker i feel

in the literal sense it's just padding up words to make the phrase you want to emphasize bigger

ill try to look up more examples

[chilly urchin]

I mean that's my guess 😭

[atomic halo]

http://tratu.soha.vn/dict/vn_vn/Cái

im laughing so hard at how pungently Vietnamese this web design is

[chilly urchin]

GODDDDDDD

ME WHEN THE FUNCTION HAS SKEUOMORPHISM!!!

[atomic halo]

YEAH

cái can be used almost like "matters of" which might be of note

cái răng cái tóc - matters of teeth and hair (regarding grooming yourself)

[remote junco]

interesting

so many things for cái

[atomic halo]

cái việc học hành thế nào rồi? - hows your studying going? but cái adds oomph and it shifts into "ijo pi your studying"

[remote junco]

it adds oomph… interesting

[atomic halo]

its extra funny here because việc already means "matters of"

cái is already optional in all cases but here it has extra no reason to be here

[remote junco]

cái Cúy Xượn perchance /musi

actually this raises a good question about how Vietnamese handles proper nouns

[atomic halo]

what about how it handles proper nouns

[remote junco]

how do it do

[chilly urchin]

nooooo oomf thinks there's hjeadnouns it's so over 💔

[remote junco]

I never said there’s headnouns fbsnjfnf

[atomic halo]

usually it uses a kinship term as an honorific(?) but it can be dropped if youre talking about an equal or lower

[remote junco]

headnouns are just classifiers but cooler anyway tbh /musi

[chilly urchin]

I'm the doggy jester I'm supposed to jest

[atomic halo]

theres no mr/ms but we have anh Xuân or bác Tuấn

[remote junco]

ah I see

I knew about the kinship terms

[atomic halo]

(bạn) Hoa, (em) Vân

etc

[remote junco]

cháu Cúy if ya nasty

[atomic halo]

thằng/con are the gender coded anti-honorifics

a lot of our like. informal terms are used for both people were really friendly with and people whose guts we hate

because the common thread is dropping the politeness

[remote junco]

that’s how all informal terms work methinks

[chilly urchin]

God I remember this i was laughing so fucking hard

[atomic halo]

oh sht for real

YEAH YOU LOVED IT

[remote junco]

it’s with the polarization of treatment

[chilly urchin]

LO AMÉEEEEEEE !!! !

[remote junco]

deviating from the neutrality of formality and politeness and veering into either vile hatred or pure intimacy

[remote junco]

:?

[atomic halo]

i was telling it about tao/mày and how if youre really casual with each other like classmates you can use it

and then i dropped "oh and you also use it for when you want someone dead"

[remote junco]

BDBSBNCJ

that fucking bird that I hate

it’s perfect for that classmate you hate being around

[atomic halo]

diversity win! that fucking bird you hate uses nó pronouns

[chilly urchin]

(whispering to deco)

[atomic halo]

for REAL

[remote junco]

what is the distinction between tao and mày

like gender or ranking or

[atomic halo]

first/second person

nó is the third person in that system

[remote junco]

ahh I see

finally, differences only in person

I stan languages that fuck around with their first and second person

[atomic halo]

YEAH i think the vietnamese pronouns page also lists them as "true" pronouns or some shit

[chilly urchin]

Pronoiuns in vietnamese are so fucked

There's like no real first or second person

for a lot of them

[atomic halo]

mhm

[chilly urchin]

It's justl ike am I youngr or not

[remote junco]

pro-drop when it hits too hard

[chilly urchin]

Are you my grandma or not

[atomic halo]

YEAH

[remote junco]

conversely, Japanese, another pro-drop language, with a plethora of first person pronouns:

[chilly urchin]

Casually dropping the minh and anh at the supermarket

[remote junco]

dnnsjfjjd

[atomic halo]

you can also pronoun drop Twice by just using names and it doesnt sound unnatural (if a bit distant from the politeness aura)

[chilly urchin]

I like how japanese pronouns are like described

Like umm yeah if you use uchi then ur like a wee girl and if you use boku ur a tomboy

[remote junco]

they have their own aesthetics

if you use oira you’re like an arrogant guy and you know it

or is that the rural one

I don’t remember

[chilly urchin]

that's nice

Vietnamese woke alert pro people whjo don't like using pronouns

[atomic halo]

do you think japanese people do uchi or boku instead of he/him she/her

[remote junco]

boku wa sooo boku desu

[remote junco]

do vietnamese people use mày for she/her

[atomic halo]

nooo thats different because pronoun changes are per-relationship

afaik japanese first-person pronouns just tell people what kind of person you think you are

[remote junco]

boku is a more masculine pronoun, so it’s usually expected for like young boys

but if a girl uses it they’re tomboyish now

[chilly urchin]

me

[remote junco]

yeah

[remote junco]

me toooooo

[chilly urchin]

boku wa cute doggy >w<

Sorry

[remote junco]

no you’re absolutely right

also you forgot your copula

[chilly urchin]

idxk what overcame me 💔 ⛓️ 🥀

[remote junco]

the cute doggy urges

[chilly urchin]

I bite a metal pipe

[remote junco]

it’s that toki pono

[atomic halo]

gisi gisi should get a masc 'uge and a fem 'uge and not have any other words that pertain to gender i think

[remote junco]

gisi gisi should just become vietnamese

[chilly urchin]

tbh

[atomic halo]

YEAH wait thatd be funny

instead of pronouns you use headnouns

[chilly urchin]

ok but the idea of like gendered pronouns but NOT gender words is really funny hold on

[atomic halo]

RIGHT

[remote junco]

lmao

[chilly urchin]

'a'e ka 'uge [fem]

[remote junco]

this is basically toki pona already so this isn’t a half bad idea

it’s not common but people do use headnouns as shorthands for people

it helps that people are more jan’t

[chilly urchin]

gisi gisi is really funny because Spanish and Vietnamese keep parenting it but like dark mysterious figures behind the sidelines

[atomic halo]

though it Is mostly seen in third person , g?

[remote junco]

lmao yeah

[remote junco]

yeah

[atomic halo]

mi and sina are powerful as atomic concepts

[atomic halo]

YEAH

[remote junco]

but maybe we should be like nano and use it in first person too

[atomic halo]

we can all strive to be like nano.. be nano Today!

[remote junco]

this requires learning toaq

[atomic halo]

trueee

[remote junco]

I Do want to do that sometime tbh

it seems cool

[atomic halo]

shes enamored by the loglang chat

[chilly urchin]

he he (chat reaction)

[remote junco]

it sounds so cool !

but I should focus on making my personal conlang instead (not gisi gisi I mean)

[atomic halo]

kolisin clonger extraordinaire

[chilly urchin]

glonger

[remote junco]

well yeah that’s what I’ve been doing for half of my life

worldbuilding I’ve dabbled in a few times

[chilly urchin]

I do a lot of gworld building

Because it's fun and like u can just do it any time in that mind of urs

[atomic halo]

more like. girl building?

[chilly urchin]

Well yes but I haven't yet gotten to the "hrt" part

[atomic halo]

girl blueprinting

girl brainstorming

[chilly urchin]

Lemon Demon - The (Woke) Machine

[remote junco]

YEAH !!

[remote junco]

the only girl I build is myself

[chilly urchin]

But what if u help a trans girl reaqlize she is trans

That too, is girlbuilding

[remote junco]

me hago

[remote junco]

true…

[atomic halo]

'ispi cái splitter would be a little based i think

[remote junco]

although I have never helped a trans person transition tbh

[atomic halo]

in the way that 'ispi being both a content word and a pronoun is mildly unwieldy

[remote junco]

true

[atomic halo]

unsure whether it's actually like Good Thematically besides the ease of use

[remote junco]

but then again Vietnamese does okay with it (smirking)

it’s the most professional noun

[chilly urchin]

So when are we getting 'ulun vs conocer

[atomic halo]

looking away nervously and pulling my hoodie strings

[remote junco]

LON

[atomic halo]

'ulun IS conocer youre so mean to meee

[chilly urchin]

not when I'm done with it.

[atomic halo]

FUCKK

[chilly urchin]

'a'e 'i 'alapa si 'upune
#toki-ale message

[atomic halo]

TRUEE

those images of like normal people on a train and there's arrows pointing at them saying "dog just died" or something and its captioned you dont know what people go through

that's 'a'e 'i 'alapa si 'upune i think

[chilly urchin]

Image of me ghost like among us sltyle

[atomic halo]

^ mr krabs becoming an ai artist

[remote junco]

shut upppppp

[atomic halo]

hehehe

[chilly urchin]

PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEE

[atomic halo]

TRUE

HAHAHH

[remote junco]

what is girl saying

[atomic halo]

we made a stupid joke the other day that gisi olin should be 'amigis from the informal mexican word for friend

[remote junco]

god

but about nugun

[chilly urchin]

using ka nugun here as like "composed of"

[remote junco]

what is a nugun

can I buy it at my local supermarket

or in someone’s garden

[atomic halo]

nugun is the body word :]

[chilly urchin]

oh

nugun is the body / wan word

[atomic halo]

body, collective, unit

[remote junco]

ohhh neate

so I can buy it at the supermarket

[chilly urchin]

yeah

ur nugun 'askalis

for um

[atomic halo]

you can buy it at the nugun

[remote junco]

eating

[chilly urchin]

panapisinapona

[chilly urchin]

TRUE............

[atomic halo]

nugun las'e - tofu block

[chilly urchin]

gwat !!!! dats fucked

I have never tasted tofu

I want to taste the bean curd

[remote junco]

it’s nice

[atomic halo]

tofu is made from mashing up beans (las'e) into a block (nugun)

[remote junco]

yeah

like I could see myself eating tofu all the time

[atomic halo]

it's also funny to call tofu las'e because it's like. mostly the texture of it so you gotta prepare it or put it in a soup for it to taste nicer

[chilly urchin]

Ohhhh

Like from autism

[remote junco]

what ??

[chilly urchin]

the texture

[atomic halo]

la textura

it has a light freshness to it also fried tofu has a delectable crust and goes hard dipped in fish sauce or soy sauce

[chilly urchin]

mmmm... suase

[atomic halo]

paka gamu lu honestly

[remote junco]

ohhh

[chilly urchin]

waht was gamu again

[remote junco]

yeah it has a good texture in all of its forms

texture, the only thing standing between me and fruit

[chilly urchin]

I really like the visual of namako recoiling a bit like I just said Making soup is for autism

[atomic halo]

gamu is gisi mokuuu🥺

HAHA

[remote junco]

chbsnjcjdj

[chilly urchin]

which gfruit

[remote junco]

yes

[atomic halo]

which fruit g?

[remote junco]

The internet.

[atomic halo]

i like that g can go at the start or end of a sentence

two flavors

[chilly urchin]

Shjoving my 'ulun in my ligin

[remote junco]

seriousness la well any fruit but like citrus

idk it’s very autistic, my relationship with fruit

[chilly urchin]

Nods I see

[remote junco]

apples are especially annoying to eat

[chilly urchin]

Apples are weird

[remote junco]

this fruit is fucked up (like the dog meme)

[chilly urchin]

Hey namako do u like feel ike with food descriptions

Like texture wiwse

[remote junco]

never

[chilly urchin]

Ok pona

Cuz something I despise

[wind compass]

i like to attribute my relationship with food to autism
not sure if it actually is but I don't care too much either way
all i know is half of all food is utterly disgusting!!

[chilly urchin]

Is when apples feel like sand when you bite into them

[remote junco]

real

[chilly urchin]

Like when an apple is a Bad Apple and it tastes bad and it feels like sand

[remote junco]

fuckkk yeah

apples are Weird I’m happy I’m not alone on this

[atomic halo]

namunen kales ka 'ispi gisi Bad Apple

[wind compass]

lelelele

[chilly urchin]

I like apples but I think they're boring on their own

[remote junco]

everything turns monochrome and you start playing touhou in real life

[chilly urchin]

Like apple is such a yummy flavor and you had to put it in one of the more texturally weird nuguns

[remote junco]

YEAH

[atomic halo]

frisk undertale

[chilly urchin]

it's not hard but it's not that fibrous

ddkjhbdjg

However

Apple pies and apple sauce very good

[remote junco]

ermmm heart colors

[atomic halo]

apple juice my beloved

[atomic halo]

FUCKKK

[remote junco]

yeah no those are better

apples themselves are bewildering

[chilly urchin]

Dave Strider

[remote junco]

I also don’t really like bananas texturally

[atomic halo]

MEAN TO ME

[chilly urchin]

I GOT U BACK !!!

:3

[chilly urchin]

I don't knwo if I can eat them

For some reason some years ago one day bananas gave me like

[atomic halo]

one time i went to a like japanese? store and got a box of apple juice that looks like it came straight out of a cartoon characters picnic basket

[chilly urchin]

Really bad acid reflux shit

And then one day it disappeared

[remote junco]

this is totally something you would drink

[chilly urchin]

And then one day it came back

HOWEVER, banana bread is fine

It's just raw banana

[remote junco]

oh fuck yeah I love banana bread

[wind compass]

omg bana bread my beloved

[remote junco]

raw banana is fucked

[chilly urchin]

pukis Ka'i he is like a silly putty guy isn't he

[atomic halo]

like are you seeing this

[remote junco]

JFBJSJJFJJD

this is your drink

[atomic halo]

IT IS

im always drinking my apple juice boxes and eating my bunny shaped bento

[chilly urchin]

ai generated images

also nice nails

[remote junco]

jdbjsbnf

[chilly urchin]

Ok actualkly how the FUCK does this boxc look like an ai generated image

It's kilkling me

[atomic halo]

i need them slightly long because it helps with guitar and the Sensory Issues and my family is constantly seething about it

[remote junco]

Pignic

[chilly urchin]

I rhgink it's the line quality

[chilly urchin]

RIGHT

SAME

I LIKE LONG NAILS AND MY MOM KEEPS BITCHING ABOUT IT AND IT'S LIKE

[remote junco]

it’s milking you???

[chilly urchin]

EERRRMM LAST TIME I CHECKED THEY'RE ON MY HANDS !!!!

[atomic halo]

LOL

[chilly urchin]

No sorry I would never be weird with goofy juice box

[atomic halo]

el jugo de manzana tonto

[chilly urchin]

Es cierto... 💔

[remote junco]

jdbjsjndjdj

this implies you would be weird elsewhere I think

[chilly urchin]

My shades of weird are multiple and I do as I please with them

And that is the pispis

[remote junco]

#relatable

[atomic halo]

es muy pispis...

es muy puspis chica!

[chilly urchin]

Te ves muy pispis hoy..... se muerde el labio

[atomic halo]

labio like from m p b...

hoy sounds like hôm nay btw stupid as hell

[chilly urchin]

what's that bbg

oh today

sorry i never looked back on this thread

I was like "it's probably today" [object permanence desists]

[azure gulch]

hôm này (pronounced rhyming with hombre)

[atomic halo]

TRUEE

[chilly urchin]

i opened sai and forgot this was there

magnum opsu

[atomic halo]

itsso funny

[chilly urchin]

I just realized something

And it's really fucking funny

[atomic halo]

evil garnet be like i am made of 𝓖𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽 𝓯𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓷𝓭𝓼!

[chilly urchin]

So you know how everyone goes like omggg that's sooooo craszyyyyy and weiiirddd when someone points out that some eastern asian languages can distinguish between aspirated and unaspirated consonants

[atomic halo]

yeah....

[chilly urchin]

Fucking

Spanish speaking people do that too

None of our fucking consonants are aspirated so when one of them is it's immediately like

Erm awkward....

[remote junco]

wait until they get exposed to a language that does both

[wind compass]

(i am the trans girl in question this is exactly what she did for me)

[chilly urchin]

Or your'e from Yucatán or something

[remote junco]

you’re so right actually

[chilly urchin]

SEE kolisin

Ur transed the girl

[remote junco]

I kind of forgot about her in this way

she’s just retroactively Lady now

[wind compass]

lelelele so realreal

[chilly urchin]

this is so real

[remote junco]

me whenever one of my spanish classmates speaks spanish (they sound like they’re reading off of a Starbucks menu)

that’s the only way I can describe it

most anglophonic pronunciations ever

[chilly urchin]

It's so funny because I often forget that gender is like that right and I'm like "this is what ppl say thatlike woke is gonna do to u or whatever but this fucks what" like. Why does it matter what someone says they are ur just weak because ur not called like Megaton "Cutieclaw" Uranium

[chilly urchin]

fjnkjhdbg

Whenever I say a word in Spanish in the middle of an english sentence I feel like Toby Fox saying touhou projkect

[remote junco]

JDJSJJFJDJDJCI

[wind compass]

lmfa so real

[chilly urchin]

Suddenly there's no more aspiration or rhotics

I forgor

[remote junco]

my name is just Friday (the skunk is speaking)

[atomic halo]

HEHEH

[lucid bay]

earlier today i was going grocery shopping and i asked my brother if he wanted any marble soda bcause i found some in the asian foods aisle and he pronounced "ramune" like "ruh-myoon" adn i was confused fora bit

[remote junco]

very easy to misread

[chilly urchin]

IM SDYDGBHNDDHGVFDG

[atomic halo]

TRUE

[lucid bay]

sory i wasjust reminded

[remote junco]

NDNJSJDJ dying

[chilly urchin]

IM LSOIGN IT RIGHT NOW WREN

[remote junco]

same

[lucid bay]

wahjrgsajhgb

[wind compass]

me desperately trying not to aspirate my blosives oh no they're durning voiced again

[atomic halo]

sakaja struggle tweets

[chilly urchin]

i am losing it it jusr made nme thingk of the ramune and poki and also the hambaga sandiwch to diet coca colah

[lucid bay]

YAUYYY

[lucid bay]

RWEHSZAFSD GH

!!!!!!!

[chilly urchin]

DODNDJNBDVHJGD !!!!!!!!!!

KOLKSISG PLEAS EEE

[lucid bay]

ANIME !!!!!!

[chilly urchin]

I HAD STOPRDED LAUGHING

[remote junco]

here, have more laughing

courtesy of me

[lucid bay]

YAY YY :3 !!!

[remote junco]

sorry I remembered an Actual anglophonism I heard once

not like. Annyme

[lucid bay]

fukcincng annyme

imtrying to remember any other nstancesof anglophonism i have experienced

[remote junco]

we were just eating at a Mexican restaurant and I overheard this guy saying picko da golloe

[atomic halo]

TRUE

[remote junco]

and I like snickered

[atomic halo]

pickadagalo

[remote junco]

jJzjsjjjdjsnnd

[lucid bay]

YUYAUYYY !!!!

[atomic halo]

FOR REAL

[remote junco]

this is me when I am feeling very late for school and I’m running with a piece of toast in my mouth

[chilly urchin]

omg it's mỏ của gà trống nhà

[atomic halo]

when youre very late for dia de los muertos and youre running with a piece of arepa con queso

[chilly urchin]

TRUEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!

[chilly urchin]

Holding you by the shoulders and hanging my head low while shaking

[atomic halo]

HAHAH

[remote junco]

I do love drinking ramune

[atomic halo]

lamuni - water < JP ramune

[lucid bay]

itwas da first time i had the melon flavor ramune doe and itwas yumi

[remote junco]

oh I always have like the uhhh I think it’s a lychee flavor ?

lychees are cool

[remote bear]

ramune (rhymes with immune)

[chilly urchin]

lychees ARE cool !!

[remote junco]

yup

[lucid bay]

da story had strawwberry melon and Original

[remote junco]

anime (rhymes with on time)

[chilly urchin]

pure ramune extract

[lucid bay]

ramune flavor ramune

[atomic halo]

lychee read like luhzhay

[atomic halo]

FOR REAL

[remote bear]

ramen (rhymes with pavement)

[remote junco]

a ray pa con quay so

[lucid bay]

ijstu procesed this

thisis awesoem

[atomic halo]

'askalis 'Ulen when arepa con queso

a reaper cunt queef, so...

[lucid bay]

what ! !

[atomic halo]

points at my cheek and flutters my eyelashes

[remote junco]

this reminds me of that one time a gringo told me that I “es el muerto”

[atomic halo]

TRUE

[remote junco]

he was trying to say that I was dead

[lucid bay]

kayaiso ❓

[atomic halo]

KIEISO?

[remote junco]

so I was like. You just said that I am death. Like the Grim Reaper

[chilly urchin]

nnmn no

laughs and giggles and runs away

[atomic halo]

TRUEE

[chilly urchin]

The grim reaper is a she

for us

[atomic halo]

la muerta mamacita

[remote junco]

hm then maybe I am lady death

[chilly urchin]

Well

[remote junco]

go back to sipping your apple juice

[chilly urchin]

idk what their gender is but it's "La Muerte"

BUT

This is very cool

Do know this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Muerte

[remote junco]

it’s me !

[atomic halo]

nooooo mi jugo de manzana tontaaa

that wasnt the right gender. me when i juice my silly happes

happles

apples

[remote junco]

I like to juice my silly happles

[chilly urchin]

happles....

my um

uhhh

trai toi sillyyyyy

[remote junco]

SADples

they’re blue and frowning

[atomic halo]

trái tôi sillyyyyyyy 😭

possessives are marked with của and go at the end fbtw

[chilly urchin]

i know but these aren't my silly apples they're just free

[atomic halo]

theyre having fun

[remote junco]

the silly apples

[atomic halo]

trái tối - dark fruit

[chilly urchin]

silly apple polyculte

[remote junco]

poly cult

[atomic halo]

trai tồi - awful men

[chilly urchin]

what about hoi toi

[remote junco]

awful fruit

what about tou hou

[lucid bay]

touhou project

[atomic halo]

hội tôi - my group

[remote junco]

what about boy toy

[chilly urchin]

no girl 😭 dau hoi toi

WOAHH

[atomic halo]

đầu hôi thối - putrid head?

[chilly urchin]

I grab you by the shoulders foaming at the mouth

[atomic halo]

a a a

[remote junco]

me when I have a putrid head

[chilly urchin]

damn it means nothing

[atomic halo]

tienes una camiseta roja y un đầu hôi thối

[chilly urchin]

DJKLMDHJBKDDVGHJD

[remote junco]

viet-spanish pidgin

[chilly urchin]

tienes una camisa roja y una đầu hôi lồn

[atomic halo]

thats gisi gisui

[chilly urchin]

TRUEEE

[remote junco]

NDBNSJD

[atomic halo]

RUDE>>>

[chilly urchin]

FYUCKKKK

WRONG WORD

[atomic halo]

đầu hôi vãi cứt 😭😭

[chilly urchin]

lớn

[atomic halo]

i got so scared when you added that i was like who taught this dog 30 vietnamese slang

[remote junco]

you did

[atomic halo]

like it was so shockingly naturalistic out of nowhere

and vulgar too

[remote junco]

jdbsjnjcjd

[chilly urchin]

DKBNHDJBJHDGJGVHDB

I'M JUST LIKE THATTTT !!!

[atomic halo]

tbhhh

[remote junco]

vietnamese speaker shocked when their teaching pays off

[atomic halo]

i would never teach đầu hôi lồn

[chilly urchin]

what even is lồn

[atomic halo]

imstlill laughing so hard at that you sound like a frat boy

lồn is vagina

[chilly urchin]

FUCKKKK

ur such a pussyhead

[atomic halo]

you can add (vãi)(lồn) to intensify an adjective

[chilly urchin]

DKNJDJBVH

[atomic halo]

kind of like as fuck

[azure gulch]

vcl moment

[atomic halo]

YEAH

[remote junco]

yeah me too. as my mom likes to sing: pinche pendeja coleda cochina

[chilly urchin]

DKNJHBDDBHJGDASVGHJDASNJKLASDBHJKG

[azure gulch]

gisi gisi unpa word from vcl

[chilly urchin]

What is Coleda !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I feel like u misheard

[remote junco]

I don’t know, either i misheard or she misspoke

colera?

idk

[atomic halo]

woah spanish <j> is [x] and no one told me?? i thought it was just [h]

[remote junco]

culeda

[remote junco]

it can also be [X]

[atomic halo]

that phinease and ferb clip where he went "it makes the H Sound!" ruined me

whats s[X]

x[X]?

[strong tartan]

[χ]

[remote junco]

ya

[atomic halo]

who is she...

[azure gulch]

long

[remote junco]

the sexiest sound in the world

[azure gulch]

(vertucal)

[atomic halo]

uvular..

[azure gulch]

my love

[chilly urchin]

OHHHH CULERA

[atomic halo]

im not used to uvular sounds i have no idea how you can do a front vowel after a uvular sound its simply so far away

[chilly urchin]

JBKSHDVDHVGF

[atomic halo]

YEAH

[remote junco]

I have not heard this one

[atomic halo]

mày trông xinh vãi cứt 🥰

[chilly urchin]

hold on

have to say this in my frat boy voice

[remote junco]

but yeah my mom made that series of words into a little jingle when she was in like high school

[chilly urchin]

WHY DID SHE DO THATTT!!!! actually nvm i'd do that

[remote junco]

yes you would

as would I

[atomic halo]

vãi cứt/lồn translates literally to "youre so X that it makes me shit myself" btw

[remote junco]

she has a fascination with learning swear words

I think she would hate toki pona

[chilly urchin]

FLGOFJNHKBFDBJHDVA

[atomic halo]

swear words tokiponido when

[remote junco]

this is something I’d say

[atomic halo]

YEAH

[atomic halo]

EW

[chilly urchin]

LOSIGN IT

[remote junco]

the fact you agreed makes me simultaneously shocked and amused

[chilly urchin]

LOSING IT SO FUCKING HARD IMG FHDING

IF UR REACTION IS "EW" THATS IT IM DONE

[remote junco]

lmaoooo

[atomic halo]

nepa'u paka kales

[chilly urchin]

what's nepa'u

tree

[atomic halo]

did you know we have 3/5 chinese elements

[chilly urchin]

?

[atomic halo]

tree

[chilly urchin]

dats fucked they're overtaking the spanish

[atomic halo]

nooo the elements as in fire earth air water 😭

[chilly urchin]

OH

HDDJHNKGBBGDJHSAJGH

[atomic halo]

HAHA

metal wood water fire earth

fascinatingly the chinese dont gaf about air

[chilly urchin]

beating the idgaf war

[atomic halo]

tbhh

las acusaciones de no dar a fuck

[chilly urchin]

un*

oh wait

[atomic halo]

HAHAH

[chilly urchin]

ur keeping "a fuck" in english

sure 🙄

[atomic halo]

you remove one star sticker from my board

[chilly urchin]

With a spatula

[atomic halo]

YEAH

con una spatula

[chilly urchin]

espátula 🥺

[atomic halo]

con una espAtula 🥺

i like that they add e before splosives

its very chic

estrella.. estudiar.... espAtula...

escribir

[chilly urchin]

i mean

u can't start a syllable with s-plosive..... soooo.... euurrmm....

[azure gulch]

air is qi

[atomic halo]

embarrassingggg!

[atomic halo]

but its not in the 5 classical elements 🥺 i think?

[azure gulch]

no its a completely separate thing

[chilly urchin]

No the three elements are snake pig and chicken

[azure gulch]

its not an element its more like the literal embodiment of Spirit

[chilly urchin]

was it chicken

[atomic halo]

woah.. just like in toki pona

[azure gulch]

the real elements are the 64 iching hexagrams

musi

anu seme

[atomic halo]

x/espa_Htula]

[strong tartan]

/espa˦tula]

[atomic halo]

thats not what i wanted

[chilly urchin]

Yeah chicken snake and pig

The three poisons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_poisons

[atomic halo]

'askalis pukis and 'askapis

askaplis

[chilly urchin]

🥺

[atomic halo]

askapleaseeee😭

[chilly urchin]

'askapapucho

[atomic halo]

'askaporfavor

what are we gonna do about nepa'u btw.......

[chilly urchin]

how abouttttt

tree, clean water only

[atomic halo]

at a desert and i see some nepa'u but when i come closer it turns out to just be nepa'u

[chilly urchin]

GOD

[wispy tendon]

heoheohe... 'uge si 'alapa

[chilly urchin]

kemu si 'alapa....

[wispy tendon]

las acusaciones de ghost && robot

[chilly urchin]

nkjhnjhkfbjhg

Eres un fantasma y un robot....

[wispy tendon]

es cierto........

woah.. is fantasy cognates with phantom

[chilly urchin]

yes i think

let me ceck

[atomic halo]

from Old French fantasie (“fantasy”), from Latin phantasia (“imagination”), from Ancient Greek φαντασία (phantasía, “apparition”), from φαντάζω (phantázō, “to render visible”)

[chilly urchin]

yesd

[wispy tendon]

oh thats so cool the word came from VISIBLE not INVISIBLE

aphantasia... not being able to imagine things.. etymology swag

[chilly urchin]

it's how the word "nada" comes from latin "nata" which means "born thing"

[wispy tendon]

wow guys.. literally 'ulun

woah.. de nada means its nothing

'askalis 💅 Nunaku | kulupu ↩️

[Reply to:](#1220981267076481077 message) it's how the word "nada" comes from latin "nata" which means "born thing"

ansem

[chilly urchin]

Yeah pretty much

[atomic halo]

fricative jumpscare

[chilly urchin]

But "de nada" is usully more likke "of nothing"

Like literally it would mean that I mean

[atomic halo]

so true....

geckobone proxy struggle tweets

[chilly urchin]

jbjhgvjfghvhf

[atomic halo]

hmm.. struggle got me thinking about 'upune

variety is 'upune because when you say it's varied youre highlighting the differences between the things g?

in the right context that is im just thinking of things that are 'upunecore

bad 'upune has both conflict and chaos in it

[chilly urchin]

the 'upune is so namunen

[atomic halo]

namunen si 'upune salin - the marks clash awfully - the painting is a mess

but kepa kipa is another flavor of chaos as well

[atomic halo]

lon...

[chilly urchin]

i thinhk we can work with some flavors of nasa here

namunen can be nasa

kepa kipa can be nasa

'upune camn be nasa

[atomic halo]

lon...

[chilly urchin]

kepa is weird and we like Don't use it at all we havbe to nurture it it's wilting

[atomic halo]

'ispi can be mildly nasa

[atomic halo]

we have to sili gisiii🥺

i think its semantic space is well established already because it was imported from another fully fledged nimisin

so i guess now it's just. getting used to putting it into context and seeing what's up

kepa could have hints of leading or controlling in it

leadership is just putting things into kepa

[chilly urchin]

nasin-lawa

[atomic halo]

menu kanesu 'i sesli 'uge si kepa - the leader made us get in formation

crystals [kiwen] kepa......

[chilly urchin]

no way the pa'ula ka kipa kepa

[atomic halo]

THE DISCORDANT CLAM?!

[chilly urchin]

pa'ula ka nugun 'alapa ka las'e namunen Steven Universe

[atomic halo]

TRUE

giving a show namunwn headnoun is so funny

a stain upon the earth Steven Universe

[chilly urchin]

DHBIKDKBHDGV

[atomic halo]

toki ale es aterrador

[chilly urchin]

Tienes miedo...

[atomic halo]

cierto...

you gotta get back to me on nepa'u fresh water though... [in case it wasnt a bit]

[chilly urchin]

it was about you know

you water it with dirty water

and it float away

[atomic halo]

OH THAT I CANT

I WAS LIKE "like. is it because life or

sagke would be a banger contender for water tbh

[chilly urchin]

BJKHGJBHGVGFJHHFC

[atomic halo]

water paka pagkan because its both blue and like. life living like oases and such

[chilly urchin]

to be honest though hmmmm

ido want tree word to like

definitely be related to something more abstract like that maybe ???

because I like

Genuinely can't find good uses for it

All the other words are just Parts of the tree

[atomic halo]

just tree works tbh

[remote bear]

nepa'u for mute what thoughts

[atomic halo]

perks my huge ear up

[remote bear]

forest

[chilly urchin]

oh like from sen

[atomic halo]

el foresto what is sen

[chilly urchin]

senlin my bad

like from that

森林

[atomic halo]

hooly shit...

kasi mute

see the thing is that one nepa'u is also just like. a tree

[remote bear]

森森 is a very interesting word

[atomic halo]

moss and grass is arguably more mute than tree

[remote bear]

kind of insane

[atomic halo]

??!??!

how i look with ideophonic in my bio

[chilly urchin]

literary/ideophonic

[remote bear]

srim srim

[atomic halo]

🦐

[remote bear]

the shim in "shimmy shimmy yah shimmy yah shimmy yoh (drank) swallalala" is actually a nod to the middle chinese ideophonic word 森森

[atomic halo]

thats so cool..

[chilly urchin]

forest forest yah forest yah forest yoh drank forerere

[remote bear]

exactly

[atomic halo]

but yeah i dunno i think mute is more bush/forest than tree

[chilly urchin]

a tree does have many branches doeugh

think about it

[remote bear]

tree big many leaf

[chilly urchin]

YOU'RE A BLOCK OF WOOOODDD! !! !

[atomic halo]

mi moku 😢

[remote bear]

apparently its universal in the CJKV langs to use Tree for plain and boring and stupid

[atomic halo]

noooo its plain /pos hereeee