🌙 The Watcher

[opaque viper]

i only just realised what it says

[quick salmon]

yes of course!!

insane

also

your profile is cool yeah

I see it's very weaver-based

[violet mesa]

Hahahaha not the first, meow

[violet mesa]

thank you!

[opaque viper]

the weaver is cool as heck

[quick salmon]

I agree

https://tenor.com/view/weaver-rain-world-rain-world-watcher-consider-consider-the-following-gif-3935213375374869826

[opaque viper]

i dont think i ever had stronger feelings for a game as when i went through watchers ending

[violet mesa]

Genuine Tears

[opaque viper]

consider: a path a purpose

i love that

[quick salmon]

yeah...

[quick salmon]

I'm mad I didn't cry, I wanted to

to be honest the only game that matches this for me could be Until Then. however, that's a much shorter game and it's completely story-based

AND it also takes place in our own real world so you feel emotions more strongly

overall, Rain World remains my favorite game.

god

[opaque viper]

i try to tell friends irl how good it is

but i never tell them WHY im so obsessed with it because thaats spoilers

[quick salmon]

my bot thinks the same

[quick salmon]

YEAHH OMG IT'S SUCH A SHAME

I've also been trying to get people into rain world

it's just

when you first start, you could NEVER expect it would be something like this

[opaque viper]

my dad even got it and refunded it, he says hes seen everything (he never left outskirts)

[violet mesa]

Trying to get friends playing 1.5 after 1.0 is hard
(Trying to get NEW players is even harder)

[quick salmon]

like, really, what a journey it was. I was ascending as survivor 11 months ago. this is actually one of my best life experiences

[quick salmon]

😭😭😭

[violet mesa]

The Classic

[opaque viper]

i ahve only known rain world for just over a year

[quick salmon]

a friend of mine quit after meeting moon and another one quit in industrial

[opaque viper]

its depressing

[quick salmon]

it is

tbf, I'll believe in them though. I quit right before meeting Five Pebbles

inside his region

[violet mesa]

Only 27.6%of players have achieved the survivor passage

[quick salmon]

that's the most insane thing

[violet mesa]

I remember when I first Witnessed It was below20

[opaque viper]

even my brother who claims to love rain world has never defeated any MSC scug other than gourmand (after i nagged him constantly)

he played rain world when it was still super obscure

[quick salmon]

oh wow so it even went up

[violet mesa]

Honestly I do find some appreciation in the fact that Watcher returned to a niche as Base RW was, something to be lost, another to be gained.

[opaque viper]

they miss out on all this and i have no one to dump my autism on

[opaque viper]

oh heck yeah

[quick salmon]

it is kinda nice

I did hear it didn't gain as much traction as dp

makes sense

downpour has shorter campaigns, more slugcats abilities you instantly get

the watcher was my longest campaign

almost 64 hours

[opaque viper]

watcher was my favourite campaign

[opaque viper]

omg mine had almost 65

[quick salmon]

all the others took so much less. survivor took me like 25 (without counting the deaths which were probably a lot, and without counting the 2-3 times I restarted throughout various quits)

[quick salmon]

it's fucking rain world 2. it's amazing

also I just found this

a friend of mine telling me to play rain world

[opaque viper]

whats this

oh

[quick salmon]

december 2023

I then played like

in july 2024

[opaque viper]

🫡

[quick salmon]

I met moon

I reached five pebbles through memory cripts and shit

and QUIT

probaly not far from his chamber

idk, it feels like such a distant memory

[opaque viper]

by the way

[quick salmon]

these are the 3 first achiemenets I got. july 2024, then I quit, then I got back at rain world in march 2025

[quick salmon]

omggg

seeing your familiar regions being rotten hit hard

[opaque viper]

yeahhh

i was horrified

[quick salmon]

unfortunate evolution>>>

[opaque viper]

and i love how they use foreshadowing too

[quick salmon]

with what exactly?

[violet mesa]

Likely Unfortunate Development

[violet mesa]

Ohhohohohoho

[opaque viper]

i didnt nkow about this one until recently

oh yeah and wile i was doing brainrot rwsc i noticed that the intro cutscene has the same music as the end

[violet mesa]

It's the Prince's Dream too

[quick salmon]

could be

[quick salmon]

oh yeah!

you know, I thought this was just

watcher's old home

but I guess you can see it as foreshadowing

it's beautiful

[opaque viper]

just some random area yeah

[quick salmon]

when I entered I was like OUTER EXPANSE?!?!?

[quick salmon]

i love the music so much ahamdanshydwithdnmu

[violet mesa]

Watcher is a silent requiem of lots of Vanilla's deeper Ideas and worldbuilding

[quick salmon]

i gotta listen to the whole watcher ost

[opaque viper]

did you hear machine riser

[quick salmon]

not sure, I don't know the names

[quick salmon]

beautiful

[opaque viper]

i am super glad you beat watcher though

im glad that videocult went back to what made very early obscure rain world good instead of copying downpour
despite downpour making the game popular? i think

[violet mesa]

Am a lore craze

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1197200014448021615/1274535614510792794/projected_stars.gif

[opaque viper]

is that... intentional

[violet mesa]

Oh it did, I was part of that wave

Daemon Sequence is SO GOOD

This ones a little more far fetched but...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1222995518754521098/1478186464582832250/projected_scan_lines.gif

[opaque viper]

what is this one referencing you think??

[opaque viper]

O H

[quick salmon]

yes. genuinely, w desv though. for rain world in general

[quick salmon]

THE LOREEE

[quick salmon]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

THAT DOESN'T FEEL REAL

okay I should actually document

[violet mesa]

yeye go ahead, dont want to fill it up with lore ramblings too soon

[quick salmon]

I think I'll simply upload the clips to youtube like i did with saint and give a few thoughts

[quick salmon]

nono it's fine! I gotta finish some stuff and then I'll send, I'll tell you before I do that

and lore rambling will be very appreciated

esoecially after I read the pearls

[violet mesa]

James does LOTS of little musical details

heaps of motifs and bookends too

Again... Far fetched but,

https://youtu.be/JgoK_0LLT9Y?si=TD6dtakAMbGlB0E9

https://youtu.be/hgdDEg2Mgfg?si=jmO3mCJqUq8UkVRr

[quick salmon]

I love this one

[quick salmon]

is this just ambience?

okay maybe it is a bit far fetched

[violet mesa]

Yes, Primarily found in Ancient Urban

[quick salmon]

but peak nonetheless

musical familiarity does so much

the reuse of leitmotifs

[quick salmon]

ohh

[quick salmon]

this one calls rw's main motif a lot

I fucking love rain world's music

[violet mesa]

Suspiciously sounds like notes.

[quick salmon]

I mean yeah

could very much be

[violet mesa]

I LOVE that spinning top reprise calls back to URBAN JUNGLE of all things too

that little alarm in the BG

https://youtu.be/4wlNT16Rh4E?si=e4OE-t7CuN2YkDD3

He knew what he was doing

[quick salmon]

YESSS

he fucking knew

things like these mean so much

and also that instrument with a bit of delay similiar to pictures of the past

[violet mesa]

Even motifs for progression through a single region feels so so special

https://youtu.be/Ex-mj0QQAPA?si=YXoR_p017ygItfpb

https://youtu.be/NeKzeX-IZMQ?si=VtU8RHg7rrpeq3LJ

Its like the civilization's movement from ancient sewerage and primal fauna to the new age Iterator-reminiscent void baths.

[quick salmon]

can you remind me where these play? 🥹

I'm really glad you're so interested in this side of the game

music design can be overlooked, it deserves a lot

[quick salmon]

that's true

[violet mesa]

Agreed

[quick salmon]

oh

thanks

so cool

[violet mesa]

Also Prince dream/ending sequence for lore reference

[quick salmon]

oh

more foreshadowing

[violet mesa]

The whole of prince dream is that sequence from Weaverspace to the jungle

https://youtu.be/jOR_f9dOS5A?si=inGI1KhCw64V6FZ5

mwha

[quick salmon]

this one hits so much 😭

[quick salmon]

I should re-watch all of the dreams

I was so confused

[opaque viper]

*rises your machines*

[quick salmon]

ohh this one that plays in outer rim

washer

[opaque viper]

yes

[quick salmon]

it was really scary

[violet mesa]

I can confidently say that ELSE VII Reprise is one of if not THE favorite of mine throughout the RW tracks

[quick salmon]

I love ELSE VII so much

goosebumps when I heard it again

what about this dream? #1434579784041631764 message

it's even more confsing

[radiant crag]

I scored em while they were still at 0.1 🥹

[violet mesa]

I scored em before the update was even public 🥹 (Le Windchimes)

[violet mesa]

This dream is The Prince one I was showing earlier

[quick salmon]

what are these windchimes?

i've heard it

[quick salmon]

yeah no I meant to put another link oops

the weaver one

[violet mesa]

ARG prior to watcher's release and 1.5

[quick salmon]

there's even another one I got in signal spires that showed the watcher with other scugs

I think it was right after getting ripple

[quick salmon]

interesting

I love args

[violet mesa]

(Not really Augmented Reality but still)

[quick salmon]

this folder has some clips alright

[violet mesa]

Aye

[radiant crag]

I do wish it did tho

[violet mesa]

ST's Dream

Weaver's Dream

Prince's Dream

[quick salmon]

me too

it's just really hard for people to get into rain world 😭

[radiant crag]

Games have to make a profit to succeed and for the developers to survive and be supported

And though idk its statistics clearly watcher whizzed under the radar

The secretive advertising compared to dp was pretty cool in concept but it probably did them no favours

[quick salmon]

it's such a shame 🥺

the campaign also takes a lot more to enjoy though

downpour added other stuff as well, expedition, challenges, jolly co-op

[opaque viper]

lets have a watch

[violet mesa]

All 3 relate to the main 3 Entities, Like empathy for each situation - viewed through watcher as they too empathise

[quick salmon]

watcher feels like it's what the devs wanted to do the most, to continue their dream

[radiant crag]

Only a small teeny fraction of global rainworld players probably ever even heard that another dlc came out

[opaque viper]

YEAH

[quick salmon]

very confusinf nonetheless

especially the weaver one

[violet mesa]

They're meant to be abstract, more room for meaning! Weaver's is the most enigmatic in line with themselves

[quick salmon]

yeah 😭

[opaque viper]

im kind of still crafting my theries on this

[violet mesa]

Indeed, and from creating many more ideas have sprung to life

[quick salmon]

I wanna cry

[quick salmon]

a 1-hour-long video came out

[opaque viper]

Yeah that's about how long the real ending normally lasts

[quick salmon]

---

The last portals

There were only 2 more portals awaiting to be sealed

One was Shattered Terrace-Signal Spires

who needs whales when you have Blueberry

either way, I planned to leave him here

so I sheltered, and I went up the western tower

and I had one last Sky Whale ride

it was amazing like the first time

this looks like the northern lights... so beautiful

I quickly passed by Outer Rim

that's a lot of Karma Flowers

after that, I sealed the last portal remaining, Stormy Coast-Signal Spires...

I posted 2 videos to YouTube, mostly to archive them. you're free to watch them if you want

https://youtu.be/NJbM8gPDA6c

I didn't take many screenshots

it was amazing, and really, really confusing

and this is such an incredible artwork, oh my god

I love The Weaver

of course, I immediately decided to hop back in, I had to see what was next

so pretty

Being warped back to Hydroponics felt so weird

then I climbed above Spinning Top's room... The Prince had a gift for me

space and time were bending like crazy

I was travelling uncontrollably

home.

the excitement I felt when I saw this

Outer Expanse?!?!?

really similiar to what we see in the initial cutscene

I absolutely love this tree so much.

Here is the video
https://youtu.be/FsIqgmj6rQs

I recorded all of the ending

I can't wait to look back at it in years and cry

When I entered The Depths, I was hit HARD from nostalgia

Else VII was a brick Videocult had to throw at us.

And then

I ascended

just like I did a year ago as Survivor

but it was different

it seems I've become a Void Worm

The Weaver also looks suspicously similiar to a Void Worm

I was, and I still am, extremely confused

allow me to appreciate the camera movements as well

the scene with all the different "Daemons", the alternate realities, the countless cycles

it didn't feel like Rain World

in the best way possible

I'm proud. The food and cycle numbers are also really satisfying

[idle galleon]

[quick salmon]

Thank you, Rain World.

[quick salmon]

welp

allow me to thank @distant bobcat from the bottom of my heart

and all of you in this thread, from who passed by to who kept checking up, chatting a bit...

I love this game so much

[distant bobcat]

<3333333333333

I shall add one more funny story about aeths journey through rain world

As he already told you, he quit when he met FP

I then had to push him to play it again

And most likely he got amnesia

Because he forgot everything

And one of the things was Five Pebbles

And so on his first actual playthrough

He got enough echos to ascend

He got to farm arrays

And I was so scared he would finish the game without meeting FP

It's so funny how usually people need to actually try to get the achievement for max karma without Pebbles, and he did it accidentally on his first try

[quick salmon]

I'm just that good

[quick salmon]

aetherius trying not to say "what the fuck" challenge: impossible

[opaque viper]

Omg real????

[quick salmon]

very real

[violet mesa]

Amazing.

[remote grotto]

when i beat watcher i was doing the absolute cinema pose the whole time

[remote grotto]

OH MY GOD

[remote grotto]

you know

that tree

[plain latch]

hello rot eater

[remote grotto]

it looks exactly like the one survivors family lives in

and ive never seen anyone else make that connection

[remote grotto]

hello

[quick salmon]

yeah 🥹

very outer expanse-ish

[plain latch]

outer expanse if it was good

[quick salmon]

🥹

[remote grotto]

anyway

with this story at its conclusion

nothing ties me to the community/fandom anywhere

and so i will ascend

bye chat

[quick salmon]

NOOO #1 rot eater NOOOO

wait what

they actually left?

[violet mesa]

They've left this world behind.

[quick salmon]

the fuck

was that for a gag or something

[opaque viper]

Wait WHAT

Maybe rot eater just isn't a rain worlder

[plain latch]

they have actually left

[quick salmon]

why 🥹

[opaque viper]

Idk🥹

[plain latch]

🥹

[quick salmon]

can't even DM them

[plain latch]

man who is the next rot eater now

[quick salmon]

were they active in some other thread

[opaque viper]

Why did they leave🥹

[plain latch]

idk

[quick salmon]

@quick salmon whenever he experiences a cutscene in Rain World: The Watcher:

(added this as a soundboard in my server, best decision of my life)

[quick salmon]

Missing Arena Unlocks

• Shrouded Stacks - supposedly Moth Grub
• Rusted Wrecks - Maps

[quick salmon]

anyway

I

decided

to read pearls

the only new ones I was able to understand with the Mark of Communication were one about a guy angry because of bad quality bricks

skye told me it's a reference to the very first written text we have which is of somebody complaining about the quality of something

then another one which was an interview to an Iterator by an Ancient

really cool

they were called Bell something

and they gave off Five Pebbles vibes

and then another one which was like a self-poem? idk

I've installed lots of mods

and created a few collections on the steam workshop

ape twins

---

Dumb mission - De-Rotting every region

now, I don't know how stupid that is

(probably a lot)

BUT I asked in #watcher-spoilers and you can indeed de-rot regions completely

and guess what I did

I was very proud of this

it can be a bit annoying but it's an excuse to explore every region thoroughly and check for room connections I might've missed

after de-rotting signal spires, I random warped again into fetid glen

now, this region is much harder to de-rot, since it does have a rain timer

and it's fucking huge

but I'm unemployed tho so

---

Fetid Glen

cute mushroom

soooo I installed a mod that allows me to have a karmic shield whenever I have Karma Flower protection

it really came in clutch

[green sundial]

Have you tried purifying all regions?

I was pretty confident I finished heat ducks, but I just returned to see that it’s already spread back

If you have, any tips? Is it possible at all?

[radiant crag]

Yup, it was copper

[quick salmon]

I currently am, already succeded with Signal Spires!

it is possible, I'd reccomend purifying the corners first, especially the dead ends

because the rot will still spread over cycles if connecting rooms are rotten

you can make sure it's completely purified when the rot overlay is gone

[quick salmon]

so cool

anyway I'm also going around trying to find pearls, already got one in my stomach

I collected 9 plus the one in my stomach

[radiant crag]

yum porle

[idle galleon]

@quick salmon your name says ping you and I'm good at following instructions like that

Also yum porl

[quick salmon]

nice job

yum

[plain latch]

i juust realized you can now look at my washer post too

[quick salmon]

👀true

---

Fetid Glen

I somehow found a trapped Vulture. man these ancient benefactor guys really hated animals smh

and god how I love the Diverse Shelters mod

aaaand another region purified

it was a bit hard but we keep going!

---

Sunbaked Alley

I think the game is a bit confused

or maybe this Lizard is trans

it's green but its map and pipe color is pink

another one done! this one only took 4-5 cycles

[idle galleon]

Are you unrotting every region

[quick salmon]

I am

[idle galleon]

Good luck soldier

[green sundial]

How did you handle the underwater rooms in fetid glen?

I've been avoiding the salination pair entirely for that reason

[quick salmon]

stalling in the air pockets

idk how i'll do that in salination

[quick salmon]

thank you

[radiant crag]

Sali has a good supply of bubbleweed

[quick salmon]

oh yeah true

I just wish you could Speed up the de-rotring process

because it's equally long in big rooms and in tiny ones

[plain latch]

devtools speed up keybind /j

[quick salmon]

low-key considering that for aether ridge 🥹

[plain latch]

i mean if you will do that
note your rain timer then

[quick salmon]

oh yeah

probably won't actually do that

HOWEVER

I did increase the rain timer 1.5 times in remix settings

as an excuse to actually try that setting, I never used major assist

and tbh it's really helpful when the rain timer is so short

[plain latch]

there is also the relationship tracker keybind (M) that also shows some info about creature amount, precycle and rain timer cycle itself and that kinda stuff

[quick salmon]

👀👀

[green sundial]

I personally like the waiting. It makes the transition from rotted to purified so much more satisfying

[quick salmon]

it's not that bad, just sucks in very small rooms for me

it is cool seeing a big room slowly change color palette though as you walk around

[quick salmon]

I'm actually having fun de-rotting them all

currently doing Torrential Railways. it's the least I can do for the first region that welcomed me

[quick salmon]

Rotten Regions

• Aether Ridge
• Badlands
• Cold Storage
• Coral Caves
• Desolate Tract
• Fetid Glen
• Fractured Gateways
• Heat Ducts
• Migration Path
• Pillar Grove
• Rusted Wrecks
• Salination
• Shrouded Stacks
• Signal Spires
• Stormy Coast
• Sunbaked Alley
• The Surface
• Torrential Railways
• Torrid Desert
• Turbulent Pump
• Verdant Waterways

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Coral Caves

how I feel becoming the parent of baby noodleflies only to eat them next cycle

anyway remember these babies?

yeah John Rot got them

don't worry though! my de-rotting was successful and they were fine

quantum ssquidcada!!!!

it's a bit hard to see in this screenshot, but I lost all my progress on the Hunter passage, and I only needed one more carnivorous cycle to get it! I had to eat gloweed though or I would've died to the rain :(

easy

---

Heat Ducts

GASTER REFERENCE?!?!?

I didn't record any clips in Heat Ducts

uhhh this happened though while I was setting up some mods 🥹

anyway at first I didn't use any mods, but once I got to Coral Caves I decided to use the Catnap mod that allows you to hold down to sleep and speed up time (I set it at x6). it's still got its downsides, since it gives you a numb effect after you wake up

it's really good for those small rooms that have nothing interesting to do in it

and the rain timer still speeds up normally so

---

Desolate Tract

this pearl was a bit tricky to get, but I managed to do it!

they GROOVY 🔥

man Desolate Tract is a funny region

I love these three guys

they got here through Rusted Wrecks the very first time I entered Desolate Tract

they've been chilling in here since

and they always stick together

and the red one is cool as fuck

shotouts to them

and there's Desolate Tract purified!

---

Torrential Railways

so many red snails

finally, this region really deserved to be purified

afterwards, I decided to go read, or better, listen to, the pearl I got in Deslate Tract

---

all of this happened in the last few days

so yeah, I'm just playing for fun

it's an excuse to fill out the map with the help of MapOptions mod

and it actually feels really nice and satisfying look at the complete map, knowing the region is now forever safe from the Rot

I kinda wish there was some reward for doing this

but the reward is the journey itself

also uhmm

I think Blueberry died

somewhere

haven't seen him since I starrted de-rotting

so he might have died while I was purifying Signal Spires

which would suck...

I would've accepted it if I saw him while he was dying

||but I guess I'll just spawn him back with dev console :3||

when I feel like it

for now we'll pretend he's still somewhere safe :)

[quick salmon]

omg!!

so Fallen Tramway is the future version of Aerial Tramway

[quick salmon]

---

Badlands

beautiful shelter (diverse shelters is peak)

so anyway, I didn't manage to de-rot badlands somehow, so I moved on

---

Torrid Desert

climbing up this room was really fun, very well-hidden room

and I FINALLY got The Chieftain!!!

after years of war with the scavies

I collected a few pearls and acted kind towards them

and yet another region goes

I've learnt an optimal strategy for de-rotting, it's actually pretty fun

---

The Surface

this was a special one.

I had no idea this place was so green

kinda beautiful

the first time I explored this region, this part was already very very rotten

hiding its true colors

I was vcing with a few italians friends, so I'm not gonna send the clips 🥹

but I had a really close call to the rain and barely made it to the shelter on the top left, which was sick

also I have friends now!!!

[quick salmon]

...and a rattler roommate apparently...

then, I had to emergency warp, leaving two rotten rooms at the very end of the subregion, or I would've frozen to death

AND

I literally warped into Aerial Tramways and realized that The Surface is yet another region variant that takes place in the future

L O N G flower

aaand done!

[quick salmon]

so in this screenshot you may notice Badlands are still rotten

---

Back to Badlands

I WAS STARTING TO GO FUCKING INSANE

THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE MSOT WELL-HIDDEN ROOM IN THE ENTIRE GAME

it's a secret scav storage

the thing is it's extremely hard to see on the map as well!!!

I'm really impressed

and finally, badlands are purified too!

[violet mesa]

Fun fact, this used to be a huge pipe down to unfortunate evolution in 1.0

[quick salmon]

what????'

that's odd

really random

like cold storage-unfortunate evolution makes sense, but why badlands 😭

[violet mesa]

I think it was a vestige of some old watcher structure ideas

Otherwise, no clue!

[quick salmon]

that's cool

[opaque viper]

Oh!! What's the strategy

[quick salmon]

just purify the corners first, or like the dead ends

following the map layers can help too

[plain latch]

washer

[quick salmon]

like for torrid desert I first purified the rightmost area, since it wasn't connected to anything

then I went to the left, purified the upper part, then into the echo room and then down, purified the lower part and made sure to double check the connections to the upper kne

and there you have it! 5 start pure region!

[quick salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-rain-world-watcher-rain-world-the-watcher-rain-world-washer-lets-have-a-watch-gif-12116901382014943968

[plain latch]

ah yes i remember that
(i didnt get to ue in 1.0 because i was busy modding the game a lot and thus only got to heat ducts with like ripple 3 or 4 or something b4 reseting the save to experience 1.5)

[quick salmon]

allow me to share this medley of mine. I LOVE RAIN WORLDDDDD

[quick salmon]

NEW UPDATEEEE

[violet mesa]

IT IS SICK

[quick salmon]

[quick salmon]

SAFARIIIIIIIII

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Pillar Grove

this region was pretty big

I love Emerald's Tweaks and Fixes, I can have albino deers!!

here's the most purple snail ever

AND I FOUND YET ANOTHER SECRET ROOM

I'm so happy that after 80 hours in this campaign I still have these small easter egg rooms to find

Greeble is so cute :)

still have no idea what this is

:D

---

Cold Storage

this will be the region I de-rot next probably

rattlers manage to be annoying even after I get purification powers (I could NOT sleep in this shelter, it wouldn't let me because of the rattler)

[violet mesa]

Ah this shelter is a fake one 🥹

it's filled with rot weren't it for the rattler

[quick salmon]

oh 😃

awesome!

[hexed sluice]

Recently while watching someone else's first Gourmand Playthrough, I noticed the same dot pattern on one of the background pillars in The Leg. I don't know what it means but thought that was interesting.

[quick salmon]

ohh, do you have a screenshot? i'm not sure what you mean

[hexed sluice]

Don't remember exacly which room but maybe I can even find it on the Online map. Let me check ...

Yes here it is:
https://noblecat57.github.io/map.html?slugcat=gourmand&region=UW&room=UW_D04

It's in all the Squares on the red illuminated center pillar.

[quick salmon]

yeah that's true

I wonder what that means

[hexed sluice]

UW_D06 has them as well.

Maybe Pillar Grove is during the construction of an Iterator where they have just started to build the Legs but not the main structure itself. so it's not yet shading what's below.

[quick salmon]

could be

we do also see a big box in the region, that kinda looks like iterator puppet rooms

https://alduris.github.io/watcher-map/map.html?region=WPGA&room=WPGA_A26

[plain latch]

its name is fern btw (js saying)

[plain latch]

these are called the sunflower boxes

[quick salmon]

I thought it was this one?

[plain latch]

yeah, its named fern, there is also paste the scavenger