🔧︱dev-tools

[frail scarab]

I think what crex wanted is for the rules to be clearer

[cloud ether]

I enjoyed both - maps that were trying to be 1:1, and unique takes that followed the theme, but weren't recreating

[cloud ether]

you were the only person who reached out and asked some details on what can, and can't be done

[alpine lynx]

I did read the rules .pdf what are the jurys criterias and that was enough info for me to get started

[cloud ether]

so I/we didn't knew that rules are unclear to participants. Sorry, Techland didn't give me mind reading upgrade yet

[alpine lynx]

Creativity, originality, attractiveness etc

[frail scarab]

yeah, thing is I have lots of dumb ideas so it's why I reached out to ask, to be sure

[cloud ether]

for what its' worth, i loved your map

[frail scarab]

no indie studio start for me

[alpine lynx]

I hire you in my indie gaming studio

[past canopy]

No, okay once again

[alpine lynx]

my first game cock destroyer 2000

[frail scarab]

[past canopy]

Please add additional meanings on what the is the contest about

[frail scarab]

yeah, that means you want the rules to be clearer

[past canopy]

dont simply say "recreate the prison heist" as a huge final head title thing

[cloud ether]

do you need playtesters?

[frail scarab]

cock destroyer 2000 sounds like a porn game tho

[rain hull]

Bub's Cock Destroyer

[cloud ether]

it's whack-a-mole, but with chickens

[alpine lynx]

[past canopy]

make desc: recreate the prison heist with your own imagination to represent the style from dl1" or smth like that

[frail scarab]

@alpine lynx how much you paying for me to develop that game?

[alpine lynx]

You work for free

[frail scarab]

[cloud ether]

i see you glued yourself to that one sentence among all communication, like those people who glue themselves to the road

[past canopy]

I did read the header and also everything else on the website which is clearly saying what to do

[frail scarab]

was I and Bub the only ones who read the pdf

[past canopy]

That is misleading imo

[cloud ether]

You did 1:1 map, and recreated following physical looks of that map, bub recreated the vibe, feeling of dread, intense gameplay which was in contest description

both of you won, both decided to interpret open theme in own way

[frail scarab]

Crex, if you don't like your winnings, I can take them

[past canopy]

Its not about the win, and no, its about the fact people getting misleaded easily by checking the site only where its about to start with the tools n stuff

I do care about the others as well

[cloud ether]

Is there anyone who misunderstood and had problem with contest tho?

[rain hull]

rules are difficult to be most specific as possible
like it would be ridiculous to be "the asset food_rat_a can't be used" level of detailed

[cloud ether]

Because we havent' disqualified anyone, every entry we had for both categories fit the theme

If there was some complaint, sure, i would gladly discuss what went wrong

[frail scarab]

I have a complaint, I didn't win

[cloud ether]

And I am always here, there in other socials if someone need to clarify anything

[alpine lynx]

Mix assets from both games in the series to create
your alternative take on the world, story, or overall vision of the original.

New map. Small scope. Dense gameplay. Prove you can make a better rendition of the Prison Heist.

The jury will select the winners of the cash prize based on criteria being solely at its discretion, including in particular creativeness, originality, gaming attractiveness, ingenuity and other
features of the map that make it interesting and outstanding.

[cloud ether]

it was on website as well, apart from pdf

[alpine lynx]

But yea ngl sometimes rules are boring and tldr

[cloud ether]

Hence I try to understand, if there is a problem with how we worded them so we can make it better in future

but it seem to me that it was pretty clear

[alpine lynx]

Thats next contest. Recreate TF only using food_rat_a.msh

[cloud ether]

[past canopy]

next contest

please sounds and music

👆

[cloud ether]

The jury will select the winnders based on amount of rats

[past canopy]

if no dont run another one

[rain hull]

imagine the mother food_rat_a

[cloud ether]

[frail scarab]

nah nah, if there's another contest, we need asset import

[near temple]

Yes

[frail scarab]

[past canopy]

Well then there goes copyright issue

[cloud ether]

[near temple]

Rubber room

[past canopy]

along all files you found and use from the internet

well

moment

techland gets fucked

[past canopy]

XDDDD

[cloud ether]

did you just made it lmfaoo

[frail scarab]

I have over 40k owned assest I can use anywhere I want

[alpine lynx]

prototype food_rat_a house

[cloud ether]

i love you

[rain hull]

copyright won't stop mapmaker winning cash prize right

[past canopy]

looks like a lowpoly 144p birdhouse on the ground

[alpine lynx]

[frail scarab]

I'd have no issues with copyright on my end, I can even provide ownership of all assets

[near temple]

Copyright won't stop me from doing anything(except for pirating)

[past canopy]

at the end of the day

its techland's issue

[cloud ether]

oh fuk when did 7 pm happen... i had only breakfast, that's my cue to go and eat something

today has been a day

[past canopy]

no offtopic

[alpine lynx]

We had that in DL1 and there was no issues as far as I know

[past canopy]

well, i dont know how techland was on about with the first game than now

[near temple]

CREX said on topic

[alpine lynx]

Techland was just memeing with first game and dt

[past canopy]

true

lmao

like devtools never had updates

[alpine lynx]

words of great wisdom

[frail scarab]

CREX has so much swag, he can tell the owner of the server about offtopic

[past canopy]

@alpine lynx dont you like the old FX's?

[past canopy]

? just following the rules

[alpine lynx]

Map freezes for like 5 mins when you spawn FX lmao

[past canopy]

[past canopy]

XDDDDDDD

[rain hull]

what if I import other games' asset like a flower from resident evil4
that won't cause copyright problem right

[past canopy]

or when you change gizmo

[cloud ether]

yet again crex just don't want me here

[frail scarab]

but Pirek, I want you here

[past canopy]

I love you, dont run away, be my kind friend :(

[alpine lynx]

Honestly I dont think anyone cares enough to sue you lol

well never know about capcom tbh

[past canopy]

it would make the approvement harder if there are rules for assets

[rain hull]

yea don't they dare to care so much

[past canopy]

so i dont think there wont be any copyright issues

[frail scarab]

I will include my receipts for the assests in the description of my map

[trail atlas]

once again I highly doubt that will do anything, but trying something is better than trying nothing I guess

[frail scarab]

Another thing I want for dev tools if there's ever another contest, I want proper docs

[past canopy]

that aint happening cause techland is gonna give you tutorials instead

[frail scarab]

tutorials can only teach one so much, docs are far better

[past canopy]

for the most important basic things to create a map

[rain hull]

I want more assets, current prps not enough

[past canopy]

and if so

learning by doing

nobody is gonna help you in any exam

etc

[frail scarab]

the docs are extremely good for learning what stuff should do, I don't want to waste hours trying to learn what xform is supposed to do, I still have no idea what it does, stuff just magically works when I have it enabled

[past canopy]

guess how many times i had to restart my map in order to see if the changes i did using the sequencer worked as intended or not

tons of times

with alot of crashes

[frail scarab]

don't remind me of the crashes, I had to get rid of 4 hours of work because something I did kept crashing the game

[past canopy]

i was the first one figuring out how to do third person cutscenes

and it had me cost 2 days by doing trial/error

[alpine lynx]

good old trail and error

[past canopy]

Thats why you should do a backup each 15 minutes and copy the backup to another location for preventing any unknown deletion

[frail scarab]

those 2 days of trial and error could've been like an hour of doc reading if they had them

[past canopy]

Still you dont know if it works like intended using the doc

You know the tool's state

->ass

[frail scarab]

I was making backups every few hours because I didn't think of them to be that bad

[past canopy]

oh lmfao

yea

[trail atlas]

Im wild with it if I do like even a little bit of work before exiting out of dev tools I have this desire to back it up lol

[past canopy]

the more of progress you lose the less mood you gonna start over again

thats why do a backup each fucking 15 minutes with a copy of it

and you wont have any problems

anything else preventing doing it is a simple excuse

[frail scarab]

in the beggining week I lost 35 hours of progress and made me lose motivation for like a month

[past canopy]

those few mouseclicks...

[past canopy]

Did you do any backups withing 1 hour?

[alpine lynx]

I took barely any backups in this project compared to last project. Tools are pretty stable now and theres that autosave going on in background anyway so nothin valuable will be lost

[rain hull]

like prefabs are lost too?

[alpine lynx]

I counted about 20 crashes during those two months

[frail scarab]

also, fun fact, if you ctrl z too much it can crash your project

[trail atlas]

autosaving is usually more of a problem than it actually helps

[past canopy]

True, until node show/hide crashing it by selecting any entity

[frail scarab]

project corrupted

[alpine lynx]

They fixed those crashes in 1.11.4 update

[past canopy]

The game is actually asking you to procced using the recent added stuff as a popup window

[past canopy]

I hope lol

cause i had this issue so often

[rain hull]

do prefabs still work?

[past canopy]

i didnt started counting

[frail scarab]

the highlighted mod was the map I worked on, like, fully corrupted, impossible to start it

[past canopy]

I dont think the tools do that

[trail atlas]

I remember when changing terrain at all, even unlocking/locking would crash the tools entirely

[past canopy]

you had deleted something inside the project folder cause you "thought" it would fix another issue

[frail scarab]

I didn't delete nor add anything to it

[alpine lynx]

Yea that was during launch, it was 100% certain crash lol

[trail atlas]

yeah

[past canopy]

Wont a be a problem by simply making backups <- before the map was continously crashing

[trail atlas]

we still get the issue of terrain "disappearing" when an update happens but its an easy fix thankfully

[frail scarab]

on my second try, I had over 100 backups made over the course of the project

[past canopy]

You didnt had 100 backups

Anyway

glad this contest is over

and we can now rest for the next coming one

mostlikely with no music and sounds again

like

OMG YEA

[frail scarab]

if there's ever a next one

[rain hull]

bet there will be more to compliment new features

[frail scarab]

first contest had over 60 people, now we were like what, 16?

[random badger]

Source control is the way...

Also can I hab map maker role 🥺

[trail atlas]

I bet once dev tools is fully done they will have like one more contest and then never mention or update the tools ever again

[alpine lynx]

Something like that, max 20. But imo quality of maps was better this time

There was some broken af maps in last contest

[frail scarab]

to be fair, we did have like 2x the time we had in the first contest

[alpine lynx]

Yeah true

[frail scarab]

and I wasted half of it

[rain hull]

six places for cash prize tho

[vocal matrix]

Should be 10, as in the previous one

[zenith nacelle]

hey all, just joined this server after participating in the map contest. i wasnt a winner, and to be honest, i dont think I would have won regardless of the issues i ran into.

after spending around 200 hours working on my map, learning the software, etc, i just wanted to share some frustrations i ran into, as well as some ive been seeing discussed a lot in the community.

my first concern is what at least appears to be a large lack of effort from techland in terms of support. the devtools have more than a few issues with them, and it was frustrating to see the lack of response from you guys when one of us would ask for help. i understand being busy, but when someone is asking for help and its treated as unimportant, it sends a bad message to all of us. for example, someone in the server asked about lighting and envprobes, soemthing along the lines of "i dont understand this, how is it supposed to work?" it would be one thing if the devs were too busy to respond. what happened though is one dev took the time to respond, only to say "don't get me started on that, I hate them."

why respond in the first place if you arent going to help? at the very least you could take 5 minutes to summarize how the system is meant to work.

in tandem with this kind of tone being very common from the devs when we asked for help or reported issues, the state of the editor caused problems for almost everyone participating in the contest. major things i ran into were meshes randomly roating 90 degrees in the background, heightmaps breaking seemingly without reason, inconsistent lighting between sessions in the devtools, crashes, things being different in editor vs ingame, etc.

although im new to this program, ive used around 6 other 3Dand map building programs, and never ran into issues like this, so im fairly sure this isnt just me being a noob.

its okay to not have the devtools be perfectly polished. but its another thing to have these major game breaking issues, which shouldnt be happening in the first place, take up such a significant portion of our work time, and largely go unacknowledged by the devs. for example, after meeting the deadline, some contestants found that their maps were crashing due to issues with the software, which were completely out of their control. some of them were able to find workarounds and sent new files in, in an attempt to fix the technical issues with the maps not launching, etc, that weren't there before. as far as i know, no one has heard back. my understanding is this is 4 or 5 contestants, a significant portion of the entries, who's maps weren't even considered, because of issues completely out of their control.

it reflects very poorly on the developers that they didnt take the few minutes to grab the fixed files, which the contestants all spent over 100 hours on. in general, our efforts were insulted by the lack of effort on your part.

to reiterate, i understand you guys are busy, and i never expected you to hold our hands through this contest. but a lot of us put a bunch of time and effort into this. it really sucks to get sardonic responses to our questions, and be generally ignored.

what really showed me that the devs didn't care about the community around this contest was when they announced an extension to the deadline.... ONE HOUR before the original deadline. many of us had cut our losses, dumbed down our projects in order to work around broken game logic and map issues. i pulled an all nighter the night before. if this extension was truly meant to help us, why were we told about it an hour before the original deadline? after many had already finalized their projects? was it really meant to help us? or was it meant to help you have more submissions and content to entice people to try custom maps ingame?

overall, an event clearly designed to make the community and techland look good, something meant to bring us together for a fun experience, i think has backfired. especially when we are essentially creating content for you to use to promote the DL2 update, it really sucks to be treated this way. I'm not surprised that the number of submissions has dropped dramatically since the first contest. very few people want to go through this again.

if another contest happens in the future, please do something so that we either have support for technical issues, or fix the glaring issues that break things for us. if youre asking us to use unfinished software, have someone who can at least advise us on fixing or avoiding things that we shouldnt have to deal with.

final note, feel free to comment on this or whatever, if you think im wrong thats fine too. I'm not going to respond to comments, i just both experienced and witnessed a large enough amount of problems that i thought it would be worthwhile to make a post with everything in one place.

congrats to the winners, and a big thank you to everyone in the community who offered advice and help when the devs wouldn't.

Sorry for the spam guys, see ya 🫡

[elder ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/rotating-skull-gif-24524852

[worldly reef]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-grant-moon-knight-not-reading-that-essay-gif-25788755

[haughty bough]

I would say aside from a lot of issues last few days of the competition had when they rolled the patch, the problem was that not many people were aware of the map maker, or maps not loading correctly from ingame menu.
I entered the competition a few weeks before the deadline because I had no idea there were developer tools to make maps, and unfortunately the tutorial videos that are on the official Dying Light Yotube channel are not finished. I accidentally stumbled upon the google docs here on Discord that explain how to use the tools.

If it was more obvious maybe more people would have joined the competition, but there were some problems that will hopefully not be there in the future.

[trail atlas]

holy shit

I respect your patience to write an essay in here tbh

[brittle aurora]

I remember I got blue screened and the entire world prefab was just gone, I couldn't revert it, or place any objects on the map anymore. Luckily I lost only 6h or work, it happened somewhere in 3rd week of development.

but that might be on my side, 16GB RAM is not enough, and I had little space on the disk, gonna fix those issues as fast as possible now xD

[alpine lynx]

I think same happened to me in my last project. Main prefab just fucking died after I apparently shut down PC bit too early or something

[brittle aurora]

level prefab recieved EMOTIONAL DAMAGE 😆

[trail atlas]

alright this has been itching me for a while now, so I gotta ask, how do you rotate a light shaft FX? using the regular method doesn't do anything

[plucky nexus]

You can't rotate light Fx

But you can add light shafts with proper directions

You'll need to use a type of light called volumetric light

Thin it until it's like a line

Then just line it up with whereever you want the sun rays to be.

If you want to control when it appears, make use of lamp.prefab and add this light in it.

Lamp.prefab has many options to when it appears

[plucky nexus]

Btw where is my map maker role

[elder ravine]

🗿

[elder ravine]

Respect for this legend for taking his time to send this 🫡

[willow lark]

yeah man

he took 20 mins

hes a legendary

[severe stag]

i wasn´t able to play last weekend T_T i lost 4° and 5° goal so 6° and 7° i just want to cry

why can't i replay those 2 daily T_T

[hushed flint]

lets go guys im going back to work on dev

[hushed flint]

graphic dawm

[cloud ether]

Is Hakon forklift certified tho?

[hushed flint]

Ahahaha yes.

[short crow]

Fortnite?

[lilac bay]

I'm rather new to the server, is there a specific language to use for scripting

[wicked pewter]

I'm definitely not the most qualified to answer this question as I don't typically use the scripting tools, but in the DL2 editor it seems to be much more block-based rather than script-based.

[lilac bay]

ty

[wicked pewter]

DL1 was a lot more traditional in the way they handled scripting though if thats what your asking about

and I have no clue what language it was lmao

[lilac bay]

I'd still do custom scripting though, will it accept whatever language i use?

[wicked pewter]

tbh I dont even know if custom/manual scripting is an option, thats way beyond my paygrade haha

[lilac bay]

it's much easier to get the results you want the traditional way

ah okay

[wicked pewter]

Theres a few people here who can probably answer your question a lot better than I can though, so it still might be possible to manually script in dl2 somehow.

For reference, I had to ask for help to set the time in my map lmao

[hushed flint]

Yeas

[short crow]

God I haven’t played in years

[alpine lynx]

Yes it works like in DL1, though script modifications/new scripts do not work when custom map is launched through main game

And that needs to be changed or

[lilac bay]

So I can’t do custom scripts in 2?

Very sad

I had some ideas

[alpine lynx]

Ikr I feel so handicapped with default scripts. I really hope they will change that

I mean you can still modify them but users must launch your map directly from editor

[hushed flint]

[sage zealot]

does anybody know what part of dev tools is this

[vagrant roost]

is he making tilted towers

[hushed flint]

YEAS BOY

[hushed flint]

spawning things

go check out asi tut

[hushed flint]

dawg if i thinks , if i post a tiktok on a new account with the map done and say new update is crazy everyone gonna shearsh for the game ahahahha im a genuis

[vagrant roost]

yo tell me when its done cuss i want to try it

[hushed flint]

ok g

[lilac bay]

Same man, so much more I could do if they just let us

[tawdry wraith]

Hello , I'm new here , would like to ask is there dev console of some sort in DL2 ?

[alpine lynx]

Sadly no

[tawdry wraith]

why devs hate gamers so much ?

is it hard to enable console after finishing game , or lets say 100h gameplay

with console and sdk it will make great sandbox

[alpine lynx]

Idk guess that kinda ruins the GAAS model since any average joe can use it to spawn all the dlc items and stuff. Dev menu used to be a thing in the main game

But yea it definitely should be a thing in Devtools. Makes map makers life easier

[tawdry wraith]

I know thats why I suggest enabling it after game completion

[alpine lynx]

I mean it would still trash gaas since its point is to create revenue during whole lifetime of the game

e.g. Walking Dead bundle

[tawdry wraith]

there is a multiple ways to make console not to be used for dlc items so GAAS model wont be affected

havent tried to use devtools but I dont think it is possible to tweak npc behavior code

[alpine lynx]

Yes and no. We can edit behavior trees but havent tested do those changes work with current integration

[tawdry wraith]

ughhh thats interesting

[alpine lynx]

Yeah hope they enable all scripts in custom maps soon. I want make map where player is one of the zombies

and instead of attacking infected AI work with player

[tawdry wraith]

neat idea

I think its time to install dev tools , and look into it

[elder ravine]

i need tilted

[hushed flint]

why ?

[elder ravine]

it would be fun to play

[red pewter]

can someone help me with adding collision to meshes

im unsure how to do it

im new to using the tools

[alpine lynx]

Some meshes do not have collision and theres not much you can do about it.
If mesh is simple you can try create fake collisions with dummy_box.msh (Null skin)

[red pewter]

damn

@alpine lynx can u check dms

[alpine lynx]

You can ask your questions here

[red pewter]

i need help setting up zombie ai and people im quite confused by it

i have the spawn point thing but im unsure how to actually drag and place them

i cant send images in here but ill send it to you

[alpine lynx]

Check this tutorial:

#🔧︱dev-tools message

Same in video format:

#🔧︱dev-tools message

[red pewter]

@alpine lynx i cant seem to find the variant ID

do i one need a biter mesh then add spawnpoint ?

[alpine lynx]

No. Are you using ai_spawner_number?

[red pewter]

that doesnt come up when i search it

oh

i found it

but now my attribute tabs are lost

odd

i got i back

i think i get it

thanks bub

sorry if i was wasting ur time

@alpine lynx i have it all set up but they dont seem to spawn

[alpine lynx]

Make sure your ai_spawner_number is in Level, not sandbox

[red pewter]

yea they both are

[alpine lynx]

How about navmesh? You have one?

[red pewter]

navmesh_area ?

[alpine lynx]

No, this
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16yTlkW7l0wABXm0bNR8TUzEySAg_XryI?usp=sharing

Wrong link

[red pewter]

im on one of the prebuilt maps do i need to set that up?

[alpine lynx]

Depends

[red pewter]

i think im just messing something small up but i followed the guide

[alpine lynx]

#🔧︱dev-tools message
Heres guide how to check Navmesh

Also make sure your ai_spawner_number is not hovering in air. It can go under ground little bit

[red pewter]

alright

yea idk what im doing wrong at this point

[alpine lynx]

Which tutorial you used? First or second one

[red pewter]

i cant send links

i watched how to spawn infecteds

idk why it doesnt wanna work

[red pewter]

@alpine lynx do you know how to unachor prefabs

[alpine lynx]

You mean how to edit prefabs? Right click prefab (scene window) -> Open

If you cant open prefab, right click -> save as and replace

You on Windows right? Launch Steam as an admin

Ah okay rip. Maybe try this - or send support ticket (top right)
https://dyinglight2.support.techland.pl/en/support/solutions/articles/15000046183-cannot-write-in-game-folder

[past canopy]

The ticket is saying something about windows defender which is still not the case

Do you have onedrive installed on your pc?

IF yes - please follow this tutorial which can help fixing your issue for Dying Light 2
#⚙️︱support message

Techland is like "something blocks the installation so its the antivirus his fault by default"

??????

[elder ravine]

how do i createa a slow mo DFA

[plucky nexus]

I think support can help you out with this

Sorry to hear about the issue

[lusty island]

hey when do you guys wee can expect an import function for custom msh ?

[drowsy thistle]

Hello

I AM UNDER THE WATER

PLZ HELP

UHWEEEE

[grim heron]

Is it possible to save the video settings in the dev tools client version of the game? Every time I close it it resets to default settings.

[elder ravine]

if ur a female i know a way how to do it!

[terse spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-24239187

[grim heron]

Is it possible to modify (move, rotate, scale) meshes that are inside a prefab? For example I want to move these fences somewhere else. It seems to be locked when I select it inside the prefab

Also whenever I hide a mesh and restart the editor, its visibility is reset, is there a way to keep it from resetting the visibility after restarting the editor?

[plucky nexus]

Unfortunately you'll need to have that prefab opened first

[plucky nexus]

Don't think so. I would want to know as well

[grim heron]

I see thanks though. I started using single meshes instead

[plucky nexus]

I think it's alright to group meshes together by making them a prefab. For example you can make each house on map a prefab to keep things organized

[alpine lynx]

Right click prefab -> save as and replace
Now you can open prefabs and edit them as they are saved in your project resources

Idk how to hide meshes for good, its super annoying sometimes

[deft needle]

Hello anyone know how to spawn enemies like renegades/biters

[alpine lynx]

Read this tutorial:
#🔧︱dev-tools message
Or watch this video:
#🔧︱dev-tools message

[plucky nexus]

Nomesh

[pearl kiln]

is there any way to open the main campaign map in the devtools

[marsh merlin]

is there any way to add an animation to the monkey bar?

[marsh merlin]

i beg you, answer me

[marsh merlin]

[rain hull]

this is what you're looking for

[modest otter]

Anyone Here To Play ?
Just let me know If you interested
I'm a German Dude Who can speak English, too
So If you want Just write me

[marsh merlin]

How do I add an animation of a custom move object in a structure?

[sour kelp]

Helloo i need help

Please

[alpine lynx]

Just ask the question

[rotund sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-arguing-guy-talking-to-wall-talking-brick-wall-gif-18667615

[hushed flint]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cursed-cat-meme-doxxeo-gif-25442987

[plucky nexus]

Bro forgot to ask the question even till now

[copper ocean]

i need help

i have version 1.11 when i install the developer menu

the menu is empty

in game why i need help maybe i do something wrong?

[past canopy]

Its not supported atm

[alpine lynx]

Still waiting

[plucky nexus]

The world if techland devs add an option to change skyboxes for the game:

The things I would do to just get 1 more feature from this window 🤤

[past canopy]

Actually, why should they start holding contests even when the devtools aren't done yet to show the true potential and that it's fair for everyone running into less problems than previously that can ruin your chances of winning

[latent scroll]

Are there one or more prefabs in the editor that allow visualizing distances, ranges, heights for specific parkour skills?
For example if I want to create a parkour with the "Hard" version of the jump, I have to restart my level each time to find the best solution?
I used your editor as soon as it came out and at the time I was really frustrated not to have such tools to simplify level design. Does Techland implemented it or is it still at the same stage of desertion?
thanks to the people who will answer me 🙂

[plucky nexus]

You'll need to figure this out with guesswork for the most part.

Visualization is currently broken for the editor, it may or may not work. It's very random results wise.

But I think for parkour you don't really need to do this since the game already gives players a lot of control over how far they want to go. Even a rough idea can work well for jumps thanks to this.

If you are trying to make very tight jumps(for example, even at max jumping distance the player will barely be able to grab the ledge) , you'll need to experiment first with it.

For example can move around building A and building B until you have the perfect gap in between them. Then insert a dummy box into the gap, and scale it so that it touches ledges of both buildings. This dummy box is your scale that you can use for other buildings that need tight jumping spaces.

[plucky nexus]

I think even if the tools are incomplete, there must be atleast a full series of tutorials for things that are there.

For example there's not any video for Dev tools that takes an in depth tutorial for how to use prefabs properly (so everything stays organized and you can edit many things quickly).

Also sequencer could use more tutorials. I had to figure out on my own on how to make GPU fxs appear during cinematics (for example, a car is thrown by demolisher and explosion is created right when impact happens).

I've had like so many problems because I didn't know how prefabs work. My map didn't even start (the one I was making for the contest) until the root cause was discovered.

[past canopy]

People who have already lost the first contest won't try any more since they don't have the motivation, time, or energy to learn modding, finding solutions for issues that Techland hasn't fixed yet, which will result in less custom maps than the ones that have already won

Additionally, as you can see, there were now six winners rather than the prior ten, meaning that there would be fewer winner positions in the future

which will result in a tougher battle in the next contests against other competitors

[latent scroll]

Thank you for your answer.
It's true that for a simple parkour I can do something tricky you right.

Let's take the example of creating a city, do you think that doing a reasoned level design is not beneficial if we emphasize the fact that the design is based on reflection and reason rather than on arbitrary choices?

Yes, I spent hours fiddling with devtools 8 months earlier, I was motivated like never before! I like to get my hands dirty when it comes to this sort of thing.
When the first event was over, i had a shortness of breath and I said to myself ok I will come back later to see if any real corrections have been made.

3 days ago I had an idea for creating a map I said to myself it's time to reinstall the game, and you know what? nothing has changed, still this mess in the Prefab Browser where everything is put like in a supermarket shopping cart, nothing is organized, always the same problem with so many things, I can't list all the problems because i don't have the courage but it's to show you how frustrated I am with this devtools.

When I look at the communication, events and other related to Devtools I have the impression of seeing a guy throwing bait in a lake without fish, if you want to grow the devtools community give us the means we will we'll take care of the rest.

I'm sorry for being rude and going off topic, but I wanted to share my feelings with this, and sadly I don't think I'm the only one who feels this way.

[plucky nexus]

You're actually quite on point with this. I feel the same. If they want the Dev tools to be a success then they must fix many of these issues so that there are no hurdles or problems for players while they are creating maps.

Also with the communication thing techland has been slow with it for every aspect, whether it's for the base game or Dev tools. The response time for technical issues is also very variable, it might be just a week or it may also go 3 weeks which is a lot of difference.

Improvement wise, I'm just waiting for this community update and then I would lose hope since there's so many basic features like LODs which are missing from the current tools provided to community.

I don't think I would've ever touched Dev tools again if some of my friends didn't invite me to work on the Elyseum project.

Overall, the lack of in depth tutorials, features, documentations and slow speed of support/communication is detrimental to the success of the tools

[cloud ether]

FYI: We do aim to add all maps on consoles - there are some performanc eissues currently, hence we added around 35 out of 70 maps. This will be adjusted in future, so all of them can make it.

[random badger]

Were there any updates to the tools in this update?

[cloud ether]

there wasn't any

I totally understand the need for update to the tools. I will see if there are any plans for it, but please give me a moment, as i just returned from delegations, and everyone is focused on patch 🙏

[random badger]

No stress, just checking 😄

[versed dust]

We are working on on LOD's; )

Almost ready but not stable to release in this update 😦

[hidden cedar]

this might be what you're looking for? it's in custom_move_logic_atlas

there are preset distances but it's only accurate as long as your character has no skills

there's also this one, nm_debug_basic_heights which is just a static mesh so it's not adjustable and metrics are for default character only

[latent scroll]

Thank you i will check out.
Did you find something similar to this ?

[hidden cedar]

unfortunately not but those prefabs should definitely be available for us

but those two prefabs on the left of that image are the ones I mentioned so maybe the other ones are somewhere inside other prefabs 🤔

[hushed flint]

its great for vegetation maps , when too many tree are place that cost alot of power for a pc to render

[sharp oasis]

So I'm trying to place water in my map, but once it's placed I can't even select it or delete it.

[alpine lynx]

What asset you are using? Prefab name

[random badger]

You can also check your filters... you might have selection turned off for that asset type.

[alpine lynx]

DL1 Devtool flashbacks

[sharp oasis]

that was the issue, thanks

[feral sluice]

i know theres quite a few guides, but i just cant import custom meshes, they all say "gO wInDoW --> aSsetS" and the option just aint there

[clever rampart]

Is it out on consle

[feral sluice]

yes

i mean the custom map download is

not devtools themselves

[alpine lynx]

?? What guide are you following

Theres no mesh import in DL2DT so I presume you're talking about DL1 developer tools

[feral sluice]

yeah, ig, it sucks that theres none yet, guess i gotta go back to uefn

[covert drum]

Is there a way to no clip in the build, like fly around the level build and check quest updates.

[elder ravine]

no

[covert drum]

@elder ravine thanks!

[leaden flume]

make this shit crossplay

lmao

[plucky nexus]

During play test you can't do any of that.

If we had Dev menu then it's possible, hopefully the next community update finally adds features to Dev tools

[past canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[plucky nexus]

All I can do is hope 😭

[elder ravine]

I would like to know which MODs the account Vivid_University_616 is likely referring too in their reply to a reddit post, but because I can't send links, I'll have to copy-paste text

Reddit Post OP:
Dying light 2 too dark even in daylight
I cant see !@#$ even in daylight i sent image of how it looks btw i dont have anything in the video settings on that could cause this like the gritty mode or dark. If anybody knows how to fix it tell me.

Reply by Vivid_University_616:
Yep exact same thing on me but ive fixed by downloading one mod from dl discord server and it works

[past canopy]

People also forget increasing their monitor brightness

[cloud ether]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQHgQWL3_eY

Idk if you guys saw this we dropped today 👁️

[brittle aurora]

Yea really cool, I liked the music and transitions with it ;p

[light frigate]

Hi! I have a issue with thw developer tools. Can somewone help me? when i open the game, it tell me "your game seems to be using modified data" but the menu for the tools isn't there. Why?

[plucky nexus]

Can you please rephrase your question

It's quite confusing

[light frigate]

Yeah sure. I installed the Developers menu from Nexus mods. I pretty sure i done it correct, but the menu dosent appear in the game and when the game starts, it tells me that i appear to be using modified data but it dosent show up anywear in the game and i dont understand why.

[empty wedge]

that's not devtools, that's a dev menu

devtools can be downloaded as a dlc, then be launched separately in launch options

[light frigate]

Ah. I`m pretty new to the game on PC. 🤪 How do i launch seperately?

[plucky nexus]

First download Dev tools via steam or epic games, it should be in dlc section

Once that is done, whenever you click play button you will get an option to either launch Dev tools or dying light 2

[light frigate]

I dont have a option to download via steam, and i dont have a dlc section either. I neither get that option when i launch the game...

[plucky nexus]

Check again if you really have downloaded

Lemme link it here for steam

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2217480/Dying_Light_2_Stay_Human_Developer_Tools/

Steam

Dying Light 2 Stay Human: Developer Tools

The rollout of official custom map support comes together with a free PC DLC allowing fans to create, download, and share custom maps for the PC version of Dying Light 2 Stay Human. The free Map Editor included in the DLC empowers Creators with Techland’s tools, allowing them to upload and share their maps with the entire Dying Light community.T...

[light frigate]

Thanks! I`ll try that when i get home.

[spice karma]

hey i have a question, how can i enter in a building in develeper tools or where can i get a asset of a tower?

[jovial narwhal]

A problem confused me.When I play my map, the map is empty. I have built the map and save,please tell me how to fix it?

[random badger]

Make sure all of your placed objects are in the "level" prefab.

[Blue - In level prefab]
[Red - Not in level prefab]

[random badger]

Only some buildings have prebuilt interiors in the tools, "bld_md_cor90_a_5h_a.prefab" is one such building.

Take a look at the prefab browser and poke around to see what you can find... more likely than not though you're going to be making your own interiors.

[jovial narwhal]

thanks,I will try your way at night

[plucky nexus]

Interior design is my favorite part of Dev tools

Specially since you can add things like sun rays and bake lighting to perfection.

[hidden cedar]

is there any way to disable particles in editor?

[plucky nexus]

You'll need to do some modding

I'd suggest finding the file responsible for this, maybe it's in the gpufx folder in data0.pak

Once you find it, open it with any notepad editor and empty it out completely. Save the changes and test again

But always keep an backup

[solemn mirage]

Hi, is there any way to give skill points to my character in my project? Also improve stamina and health?

[jovial narwhal]

hi,could you tell me how to give player a gun? I only find out random weapon spawner could pick up

but I want give player the specific weapon

[alpine lynx]

Open itemspawners attributes and change item ID

Or you can give item directly to the player with story node GiveItem

[jovial narwhal]

thank you!

[dusty pumice]

underground textures. why aren't there any? I want to make general prats gun cache. a 3 way struggle between the factions where the faction that gets the guns reigns supreme. meanwhile the 3 factions duke it out. volatiles are hunting everyone down and holding down what was once a gold mine of guns and weapons is now an active hive.

[rustic schooner]

Is there any documentation regarding the developer tools? I cannot seem to find much

[alpine lynx]

Wiki: https://dyinglight.wiki.gg/wiki/Developer_Tools

Guides made by Aciek: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16yTlkW7l0wABXm0bNR8TUzEySAg_XryI
Same on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSjLjgn6LsgsOk1uRvFcVs0Eykq7373Bo

Basic tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anMDEMV0-o0&list=PLSjLjgn6LsguLRhmCKNvZLmus8VDm62Y7&pp=iAQB

[alpine lynx]

What you mean by underground texture

[rain hull]

dl2 uses stones and rocks to build underground levels, there's no seperate terrain or clods to build underground stuff
ps: you can just ask why aren't there underground assets, you don't need to offer detailed design intentions

[plucky nexus]

@past canopy there should be a Dev tools guide channel where these links are posted. I think things will be more organized that way and there won't be need to keep posting links to guides

[past canopy]

pinning them is easier i think

no need for an extra channel

[dusty pumice]

things like subway networks concrete walls, that would make a decent underground bunker. that kind of stuff. sorry I meant assets. and yeah I dont need to but it would be neat to talk to people that feel that underground catacombs would be a great option for parkour map designs.

[rain hull]

int_ce_a_walls with concrete skins may be what you want
and I guess some assets with "ceiling" in the name could be what you're looking for too, there're ceiling_ventilation and ceiling_wire stuff etc

[dusty pumice]

Ill give it a shot thanks. would be a bit weird to only see 3 or 4 assets being used over and over but I guess there in line challenge

[alpine lynx]

Theres tons of different wall textures hidden behind skins tab. I’m sure you’ll find good ones for underground bunker

[plucky nexus]

You should utilize assets with church or "damage" if you're aiming for creepy catacombs look

[worthy shuttle]

@celest shell didn't have enough candies (5) and ran away scared losing 18 fear!

[plucky nexus]

This is the result

Some of the things like the old ventilation here are made using iron bars paired with fence assets

And decals would help as well

decal flat round for example has cool skins for damage

[bright notch]

How do you all find out how to do anything more advanced than just the basic stuff from their official tutorials? Info is really lacking on the dev tools. Like is it possible to choose what skills one starts with or grappling hook and glider?

[bright notch]

@elder ravine I saw your message pop up for like a second but it seems to have been deleted?

[dusty pumice]

oh heck ya thanks

[naive tree]

It got deleted because I sent a link, I didn't know, it was a new account. Here's the title, good luck understanding them, but it's pretty informative if you can understand it and see it. I had to keep pausing and look at the screen to see what he was typing or where he was at.. 1st Anniversary Developer Tools — Dying Light 2 Stay Human

I kept seeing it but didnt know it was a tutorial.

Its a short mission from beginning to end, including load out n dialogs.

[plucky nexus]

Check pinned messages

One of them has link to 50+ tutorials

Wiki: https://dyinglight.wiki.gg/wiki/Developer_Tools

Guides made by Aciek: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16yTlkW7l0wABXm0bNR8TUzEySAg_XryI

Basic tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anMDEMV0-o0&list=PLSjLjgn6LsguLRhmCKNvZLmus8VDm62Y7&pp=iAQB

[hearty swallow]

hey guys

anybody kow the name of the bon fire model

[mortal kiln]

Hey, anyone online? I'm new here and just started Using Dev Tools. I have some questions.

[alpine lynx]

fireplace

[alpine lynx]

Just drop the questions and someone will answer

[mortal kiln]

Okay, i got two things:

1. I placed lootable things (scrap and rags) and i can't pick them up. (I placed the item called loot_scraps and can't get it to work)
2. I can't make it so that items with special parkour moves (Forward Roll, Fitting trough narrow doors) doesn't work. I used a prefab with all these special items and i can't take one singular item from them. I was only able to take the actual item itself with the "Pick Entity" option. This is bad because i can't copy the rest, only the item itself so Aiden doesn't do any special parkour moves, just vault over them.

[alpine lynx]

1. Generally speaking meshes are static and you cant interact with them. In this case use itemspawner.prefab. You can change spawned item from attributes -> ID (?)

2. You need only custommoveobject.prefab. Its completely standalone, so you dont even need those meshes, if it makes things easier

You can change CMO’s move from attributes -> Preset

If you dont have CMO prefab you can isolate it from that atlas. Right click atlas -> save as and replace -> open -> repeat

[rain hull]

for first one use container.prefab, go to attributes window > container > m_ForcedItems, that's the lootable thing you're looking for
second question is confusing to read, but I guess you're looking for prefabs with the "bld_ce_a_scaffold_str_custommove_3x" in the name, check out what's insideof the prefab (don't always use the word "item" btw, just say is it a mesh or prefab or something else, or it gets confusing)

[rain hull]

also if you haven't watch any tutorials, watch tutorials
look inside a prefab in scene window to make sure if it's what you want, the file with lock icon stands for mesh, which means other than basic parkour moves it is not interactive

[mortal kiln]

I watched tutorials, i couldn't find any about these. Can you link me any?

thank you for the answers

[mortal kiln]

Yeah, sorry i'm pretty new so i call everyting an "item" but basically i had issues using a particular mesh with a special move like forward rolling and such

[rain hull]

#🔧︱dev-tools message in Guides made by Aciek, search "DL2 DT TUT __ PREFABS & LOOT __ Looting ComplexContainer and ItemSpawner (chests, craft item...)", container.prefab wasn't covered in it but there's not much difference

[mortal kiln]

Thank you!

[rain hull]

and DL2 DT TUT __ PARKOUR __ CustomMoveObject how to make a special move gives you an understanding of what a custom move object is

[hearty swallow]

really close i mean like this

just like the 2018 one

[alpine lynx]

i wish E3 campfire..

[hearty swallow]

oh we dont have the meshh...

i swear migh have been mandela effect

but i swear i saw it ones in the meshes tab

damn rip

but one more question bub does a desaturator prefab still exist or

[alpine lynx]

It still exists but the varlist itself broke down long time ago

Theres probably some workaround how to get it back, but havent looked into it

[hearty swallow]

Alright cool

[plain gull]

Does developer tools require programming knowledge?

[elder ravine]

no

but it requires an iq higher than 70

[plain gull]

What do you mean?

[plucky nexus]

Zero programming knowledge

Just need to know how to navigate around like any program out there like this

[plain gull]

Thank you for answer

[plucky nexus]

You can do some programming if you want to tho. It's very basic and just connecting nodes

[dusty pumice]

is there a pluggin that centeres the axis on the game assets. seems like I spawn an asset and the movement axis is nearly off screen. its almost like I have to set the screen res to 3200x 2550 just to see marginally what I'm doing and have my display on a 104" screen.

[plucky nexus]

We don't really have plugins at the moment

Dev tools are still in testing mode

[dusty pumice]

ah

[plucky nexus]

However, I highly recommend checking guides out at pinned messages

They have solutions to the most common problems

Specially the google drive ones

[dusty pumice]

yeah I'm trying my best to make an underground setting but I'm running into some problems. a bit like when some of the assets were made they were part of something much bigger and that item was uploaded without being moved.

but yeah I'm checking out the tutorials right now in case im missing anything

[alpine lynx]

I usually save those meshes with crazy origin as prefab. That way you can adjust the pivot point.

In scene window: Create prefab from selected -> select prefab & right click -> edit pivot

[dusty pumice]

I'll give that a shot.

[frail scarab]

Being able to create plugins would actually be amazing

Nothing less expected from a fellow chicken

[mortal kiln]

Guys i can't open my map. I playtested it once and the whole pc froze i had to restart it and when i opened the dev tools it told me to open autosave i did and whenever i open the map the dev tools crash

[hearty swallow]

Does something like a hole cutter prefab exist?

just like a tool to cut holes

[plucky nexus]

It seems like the map might've been corrupted. It's always good to have backups, the C in c engine stands for crash afterall.

[plucky nexus]

Check pinned guides, the one in Google drive probably had something about it

It's for terrain I believe

[hearty swallow]

ye i know terrain has hole cutters by removing vertices

im just wondering about like a prefab that can make a hole anywhere

some other dev tools for other games have that

[plucky nexus]

Probably not here since you can't edit meshes other than terrain

Ancient technology

[mortal kiln]

Sooo there is no Way of recovery?

[plucky nexus]

It depends on the situation

Hmm

Try zipping it up in a rar and dm it to me

I'll look into the files to see if I can fix it

[plucky nexus]

Your project is located at dying light 2 folder/devtools/projects/local

[mortal kiln]

Thanks, I'll check it out

[hearty swallow]

damn would be very useful we need like a dev tools section of community ideas fr

we all know techland doesnt check dev tools feedback channel

[dusky dawn]

pretty much

[plucky nexus]

You can dm me the ideas that you think that should make it in. I'm interested to hear

[past canopy]

[plucky nexus]

A

[naive tree]

It requires extensive knowledge of broken Russian English for tutorials.

[plucky nexus]

Aciek's English is fine, the only issue is with the videos being low volume.

Like even if I put volume to max I can't hear him clearly

[alpine lynx]

No

[north trench]

Does anyone know if the dev tools allow you to implement your own assets

[plucky nexus]

No.

Custom assets will be a thing when mesh import becomes a feature

[north trench]

Ah that sucks, I’m making some 3d models as of now would be nice if that could work

[plucky nexus]

Same

[north trench]

Does anyone know when that’ll be a thing

[plucky nexus]

No idea but hoping that it's the next community update

Alongside lods

[random badger]

Patiently waits for asset import feature 👉 👈

[plucky nexus]

The world if c engine gets 1 more feature :

[north trench]

Also, is there any tutorials for DL 2’s dev tool? Watched the one on YouTube and it seems incomplete

[plucky nexus]

Check pinned messages

Youtube has good tutorials for the lighting and all but the very basics are in the Google drive link

[past canopy]

Before that we want music and sounds

[past canopy]

check pins

[random badger]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[wicked pewter]

Just replayed some dl1 maps the other day with Dino and while the graphics in most are horrific compared to dl2, the ambiance with the added sounds/music makes such a difference

Most maps in dl2 rn just feel a tad lifeless other than some meshes and fx with sounds

[brittle aurora]

agree, + a lot of people are more auditive than visual

[naive tree]

Exactly. I thought they would go w it spreading to a new city, not this lifeless, burnt out gloomy husk. I think this was just easier.

[wicked pewter]

I was more so talking about the lack of sounds making the soundscape feel a bit empty lmao

The dev tools currently don’t have any way to add environmental sounds really

[naive tree]

Sounds😆 , everythings dead.

[obsidian obsidian]

hey, quick question do I have to have Dying Light 2 on my pc in order to make a custom map? I have Dying Light 2 on PS5 but not pc. also lmk if I'm in the wrong channel

[frail scarab]

It's required to own Dying Light 2 on pc in order to run Dev Tools

[obsidian obsidian]

ah ok that sucks but thanks!

[desert flax]

Quick question, I have the game on xbox and my friend has it on pc cuz I couldn't play the game on pc before. Now I can, do I need do buy the game on my pc to play with my friend or is there crossplay on the game for xbox to pc ?

don't really wanna pay 100 € to get the dlc's and shit again aswell as redoing 200 hours of gaming

[plucky nexus]

You'd need to buy the game on PC again, unfortunately since that's how things work even if you own the game on another platform.

Try to wait out for a discount, or check if there is one on steam to get the game.

BTW I think #💬︱dying-light-2 is a better place to discuss this and you might get more answers there

[desert flax]

and so I gotta redo everything

ok

[plucky nexus]

Not sure about that

[desert flax]

well my friend will wait for that crossplay

[plucky nexus]

I heard about cross save but maybe that's between ps4 and ps5

[desert flax]

cuz I ain't doing 200 hours of farming them trophies for nothin

[desert flax]

ye thanks for asnwering

[sweet sparrow]

Is it possible to make puzzle in the editor?

[alpine lynx]

Yup theres logic gates in quest editor. All, any, XofN

also puzzle_controller.prefab is maybe worth checking out if you want to run it independently

[obsidian obsidian]

can anybody point me to where the parkour items in the prefab folder could be ive been looking for them and i cant find them when i say parkour items i mean like the rope you can swing off and the bar and stuff like that

[chilly arrow]

I'm trying to make dying light 3 in dying light 2 does any Dev here know which tools should I use?

[alpine lynx]

Depends what you need. Check prefabs\city

Rope is cable.prefab and its in tools by default

Editorhookpoint y-value in cables attributes is the rope length. Set it to like -3.0 and hit playtest

as theres no rope visualization in editor

Bar is probably monkeybar.prefab

[obsidian obsidian]

thank you so much

[dense breach]

does anyone know how to set up patrol for the ai?

also how to set up an alarm state? (so that the alerted enemies would go back to their origianl position after the player is hidden again)

[plucky nexus]

Patrols are set using a prefab called behaviorplace.

Sometimes you need to mine it out of the game files, but I think one of those should be there in prefab section by default.

Once you place behavior place, don't set anything inside it, leave it as it is.

But for the ai spawned, go to their attributes and add the behavior place when you find the option to add it.

Now what you need to do is to go to your scene window, right click on level and - - > Save and reload
Just to make sure since sometimes it doesnt work.

Let me know how it goes for you

[plucky nexus]

As for this thing, I don't think there's an option for it in the developer tools yet. I'm not sure what the right nodes would be either to accomplish this

[dense breach]

Thanks for the fast response! I did add the behaviourplace to the patrol setting of the ai but it doesn't do anything

[plucky nexus]

I have another suggestion

[plucky nexus]

For my map, called Dying Light Rebirth, I had set up patrols and behavior places.

You can check around the map to see how I have interconnected both ai to the prefab

I'm not home otherwise I'd be able to check directly

[dense breach]

awesome! I will go check it, thanks!

[plucky nexus]

Np. Also make sure your navigation mesh is built

AI will likely not move with behavior place if it isn't built

[dense breach]

i see. btw my game just quit after I tried to open your mod...

[plucky nexus]

Do you have additional mods installed?

My map has built in ones

So the ones on your base game might affect it

[dense breach]

i will double check

[plucky nexus]

Make sure there is only data0 and data1 in ph/source

you can remove if data2 or something is there

Then test again

[dense breach]

sounds good

[sweet sparrow]

I set up a dialog talking with Julia but when it is triggered in game. It didn't show the dialog text but Aiden and Anna in subtitles with no text in it. Any thoughts?

[obsidian obsidian]

hey any ideas why i cant find any city prefabs of the skyscrapers in like the downtown sorta district, and is there anyway i can give players inhibitors in my custom map to make there stamina stronger?? any help or ideas would be appreciatted 🙂

[plucky nexus]

If you want to find city prefabs you'd need to go to base game folder/ph/source/data0/prefabs and grab some from there.

After that copy paste them into dyinglight2/devtools/projects/local/yourprojectname/source/prefabs

Now you can open those city prefabs by searching them in prefab browser.

As for the inhibitors, you need to use a prefab called itemspawner, and go to it's attributes to select what kind of item you want to spawn.

[obsidian obsidian]

thank You!!

[dense breach]

does anyone know how to make an extremely basic puzzle? like I turn on a switch to open a door far away

i know the logic for the door but how to make the switch\

i can't find a switch that allows for the animation

[sweet sparrow]

How do you make custom collectable journals?

[dense breach]

nvm found it lol

[dense breach]

why sometimes the enemy ai won't attack me?

[alpine lynx]

1. Place door.prefab in the level and name it, e.g. puzzledoor
   2. Open its attributes and set Enabled to 0 (in General tab).
   That way player cant interact with it until its been enabled by the switch Nvm probably unnecessary

2. Place switch.prefab in level

3. Open switch attributes and scroll down to ControlledObjects (unter Switch-tab). Add puzzledoor there

Or something like that

[alpine lynx]

build navmesh

[alpine lynx]

quest_object_withbrief.prefab

there should be text box in attributes where you can type your message

m_text or similar

[sweet sparrow]

Thanks

[alpine lynx]

Its not technically collectible, but best we got rn. Creating new collectibles require some script editing and that has been disabled in custom maps

[sweet sparrow]

I was playing intersection and found some collectible journals on the map with custom texts I believe, which made me wonder how to do it

[alpine lynx]

Yup that was probably it then, questobjectwithbrief

[random badger]

Yeah I used script editing to get that right... which doesn't work in the built maps on PC and Console right now.

[sweet sparrow]

Thanks

The script editing is done through modding right?

[alpine lynx]

yes

[sweet sparrow]

Thank you

I was trying to set the m_Destination for PointofInterest node. I selected a entity and assigned to it. But it says No field "WorldXform" in errors

What function does point of interest node serve? It doesn't seem to show up on the hud?

[dense breach]

Is there a way to set up an alarm so that any enemy ai once spot you will sound the alarm?

or if they spot a dead body or something like that

[alpine lynx]

Theres story node PlayerSpottedWait. You can connect that to things that will happen if player is spotted

[alpine lynx]

You can start the playtest from that quest phase where POI node is connected

by right clicking the node

You just gotta give it some spawnpoint in m_dest

but save your main level before starting playtest like that. That shit crashes sometimes

[dense breach]

Thanks!

[sweet sparrow]

Thank you!

[frozen raft]

so im kinda new to this channel, idek if this is where i need to be, i just so happened to stumble across this channel when looking for an answer online...so if anyone could possibly help me out id very much apprieciate it. currently i am trying to add a Developer Menue mod to my Dyiing Light 2 game. ive tried 3 different mods and not a single one of them works. one of them is out dated so i can open the menu but i cant close it afterwards, the next one says its active and when i press the pause menu in game it says "developer menu" to the right, but it doesnt have any keys or anything to press...the last one doesnt evenm work at all...so idk what to do, if anyone could help id very much apprieciate it

[chrome herald]

youtube video

[plucky nexus]

Developer menu and Dev tools are different 😉 afaik Dev menu mod has been broken ever since a patch was released shortly after launch

Real life inspired buildings created in C Engine

Otto vennistruat, Antwerp, Belgium

[alpine lynx]

What mods you have tried to download

Theres no working dev menu atm

[obsidian obsidian]

can anybody let me know what the helpers are on the monkey bars i would sent a photo of what im talking about but cant for some reason

[alpine lynx]

Mesh/prefab name?

[obsidian obsidian]

nm_atlas_monkeybar.prefab

[obsidian obsidian]

also i think ive go this glitch i cant delete anything within a prefab

and cant move it either its all greyed out

[sweet sparrow]

How to quickly navigate to the selected prefab in the scene window?

find it nvm

How to put text on the scene?

Saw a text_mesh which you can put in custom texts but can't find it in the prefab browser

[plucky nexus]

I just type text and I get all sorts of letters to work with

You can arrange them however you want

[alpine lynx]

All parent prefabs need to be open before you can delete anything

You cant move it because you have selected some single entity inside prefab

Theres small block icon above viewport which allows you to toggle select mode

top right corner

[alpine lynx]

Text_mesh.prefab is not in editor by default. You can find that from main game files

[sweet sparrow]

Thanks

[past canopy]

np

[sweet sparrow]

can you control the area which enemies will sense your movement?

[plucky nexus]

I think that's something you can do with modding the files rather than in dev tools

Atleast for me I haven't come across anything like that

But you can add hide area prefab if it's a specific place where enemies should not hear you

[sweet sparrow]

Thanks!

[obsidian obsidian]

Thank you

[sweet sparrow]

Can you control what enemies drop when killed?

[small shale]

No I don’t think so

Why did you ask

[sweet sparrow]

Was thinking to make NPC drop certain things

[small shale]

Oh ok

[plucky nexus]

If it's only one enemy in a quest, there is a way. Check Aciek's guides on Google drive link (pinned messages) if that's the case

Basically you can reward the player with any item through nodes after this certain npc will be killed

[sweet sparrow]

Thanks!

[small shale]

Isn’t that against the rules

[plucky nexus]

Wdym

You are making a map

[small shale]

Oh nvm

[plucky nexus]

Bruh

[small shale]

It sounded like you said you can just make any enemy spawn anything sorry

[sweet sparrow]

What does the camera helps do?

[obsidian obsidian]

quick question how do i make the player have all the skills unlocked and spawn with a certain amount of stamina health and have certain weapons, is this possible?

[alpine lynx]

In story editor use SetPlayerPreset node. Theres multiple different player presets that come with different skills and weapons

You can give player items with GiveItem node

[obsidian obsidian]

ah ok how do i get that story editor?

ive seen it in videos its like a little tab on the side but cant get it

[alpine lynx]

Check this https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KxnQ_fqEWmwrfsCvPy6I--zChXzsn_C2

[obsidian obsidian]

thanks

[alpine lynx]

dt dev: how many save buttons we should add
rafal: yes

[sweet sparrow]

lol

[sweet sparrow]

Is this DialogueSetup node necessary for dialogues?

[nocturne mountain]

I can't even play my own map. Devtools runs at a solid 50 fps then when I play my map I get an error or steam crashes or my whole computer crashes

[plucky nexus]

Make sure there are no duplicate prefabs in your project (prefabs with same name but in different folders) that was the issue for me when it happened

[sand hawk]

How does community maps works?

[alpine lynx]

You can browse, download and play custom maps through DL2 main menu.
All maps can be found here:
https://mod.io/g/dying-light-2

If you want to make your own map, download Devtools:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2217480/Dying_Light_2_Stay_Human_Developer_Tools/

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/dying-light-2-stay-human--developer-tools

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[sand hawk]

Can I play custom maps without downloading dev tool?

[alpine lynx]

Yes

currently not all of them are available on consoles, but most maps yes

[frail scarab]

how much does it cost to use bubGPT?

[plucky nexus]

Bubgpt is a proprietary technology owned by Bub mega corporation. Even world leaders don't get to use it, as the power of this tool is enough to have half of the universe in control

[frail scarab]

Well, let me show you how a romanian handles it

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-thief-steal-yoink-take-out-gif-17356971

[alpine lynx]

[blazing wren]

No

[sweet sparrow]

Can you add sounds in your levels?

[plucky nexus]

There is a way but you'll need to do a little modding.

It could be either finding audio ambient zones in files or bub's prefab for adding sound effects

#1109194769311219752 message

It's here in this server

[sweet sparrow]

Thanks!

Why are there lots of NO MESH in the prefab broswer in the Meshes tab

[plucky nexus]

It seems that they messed up a bit with one of the updates. These are just removed meshes that keep on appearing

[sweet sparrow]

Thanks!

[sweet sparrow]

how to easily snap two building blocks together? I want to snap the btm part with the corresponding top part of a building together from those altas prefabs

[alpine lynx]

Use grid. Standard 1x1 wall width is 0.96 and height probably 3.84

[sweet sparrow]

Thanks!

[alpine lynx]

Some meshes have snap hooks but its not very common. I cant remember which button enables it

[sweet sparrow]

Thanks

[sweet sparrow]

How to open an extra attribute window?

[plucky nexus]

Why would you need an extra attribute window

You'll be clicking at one object at a time to get information

So one window will be enough

[sweet sparrow]

Just curious because I believe read somewhere in the dev tool that you can open extra attribute window lol

[plucky nexus]

XD no idea tbh

But you can open new view ports

Meaning that in one view you could be looking at this place

And another place in the second view

Same map

[sweet sparrow]

that's cool

[plucky nexus]

I use this while creating levels from concept arts

I dock the camera in position then build from other camera

It applies to any engine. Even ue5

[sweet sparrow]

that's beautiful

this from the dev tool?

[plucky nexus]

Ue5

[sweet sparrow]

cool

[plucky nexus]

For Dev tools I have more

A section of Dubai mall recreated in dev tools

Set in Dying Light 2 world

[sweet sparrow]

wow

[plucky nexus]

I'm addicted to 3d art xD

[sweet sparrow]

XD. great addiction lol

[sweet sparrow]

A bit confused about the logic. Sometimes open parent is available sometimes it's grayed out

[plucky nexus]

In prefabs? Some prefabs need to be save and replaced with a different name to have their open parent option available.

It's just how things work for base game prefabs

[sweet sparrow]

Thank you

does copy/cut paste work in the scene window?

Let's say I wanna copy an entity from sandbox to the working copy

[sweet sparrow]

what's the difference between a cable and a rope?

[plucky nexus]

I think you can do it this way

You can duplicate the entities on your view port. Then you can move those entities to working copy

Now you have both for sandbox and work copy

[plucky nexus]

Are you looking to make a rope on which player can swing?

[sweet sparrow]

Thanks

[sweet sparrow]

Yes!

[plucky nexus]

I think you should check. Rope.prefab or cable.prefab (its the right one if it's invisible and only a dot is there)

Carefully place it at the spot you want the top of the rope to be at. Then in attributes you can set the height.

It's invisible in editor for some reason but it's visible during gameplay

[sweet sparrow]

Thanks.

I'm also very confused about the logic of "open" in the scene window. I assembled a house together by putting together the doors and the walls and make them into one "house" prefab. Now somehow I can't "open" the house prefab to adjust the position of the door.

I saved this prefab in a custom folder when asked to save it. Would that be the issue?

[alpine lynx]

Shouldnt be issue as long that custom folder is in source folder

Original prefab folder is best place for your prefabs/extra prefab folders

keep things organized

You can try save that prefab again w/ different name and see if you can open it

[sweet sparrow]

Thanks

[plucky nexus]

Where is the lod update? 😢

[random badger]

I'm sure it's coming soon, fingers crossed 🤞

[sweet sparrow]

any quick way to center the camera on the selected entity?

like shortcuts?

[plucky nexus]

Yes

Double click on selected entity in scene window

• Thunderstorm system with lights flashing, what do you think?

[sweet sparrow]

Thanks!

[sweet sparrow]

amazing

This fro the dev tool?

UE5

[plucky nexus]

Dev tools

[sweet sparrow]

woow

[plucky nexus]

I hope they add loop nodes 💀

[sweet sparrow]

Need some modding to do this?

lmao

[nocturne stirrup]

None ...Braains?

[sweet sparrow]

woow

amazing

Is the lightning flashing spot light? lol

[plucky nexus]

Yes

Since it casts shadows so less artifacts

[sweet sparrow]

that's cool

[alpine lynx]

Shortcuts -> move camera to entity

Assign key

[alpine lynx]

Tf is this noodle

[plucky nexus]

It's a snake 😂

I have no idea how to loop it

[past canopy]

you building a bacteria?

[plucky nexus]

[plucky nexus]

The more I look at the nodes the more it looks like a centipede

[brittle aurora]

you can even see its weak spot xD

[past canopy]

@plucky nexusUse a looped movie with a prefab.light set to have flashing light scenarios

[plucky nexus]

Good idea

[past canopy]

it's way easier than copypasting the nodes to 100

[plucky nexus]

I was about to make a python out of all the nodes. Thanks

[past canopy]

[plucky nexus]

@past canopy bro, any idea how to set sequencer for this one

I know sequences can be played looped but this one has no animation part in it

It's just flick on and off

That's it... It's time to make it the bacterium

[past canopy]

Only on and off thats it, nothing happening after it?

You can make the light teleport to this position where its supposed to be a "flash" from the lightning strike, and then just teleport it somewhere else by using the position parameters

[plucky nexus]

oh

[past canopy]

You can use rotation, position, scale

Just find a tricky way on how to do it

[plucky nexus]

i think i found a way

[past canopy]

WTF

nah hell naw man..

[plucky nexus]

its the best c engine programming youll ever see

[past canopy]

"please show us one of your skills"

[past canopy]

@versed dust

[past canopy]

But yea, having looped nodes would be a great addition

[plucky nexus]

[plucky nexus]

even cyclic nodes dont work for some reason

there seems to be a system that prevents them from working

[past canopy]

not even rollback?

[plucky nexus]

nope

[past canopy]

@plucky nexusDone, just made a looped weather thunderstrike flash withing 10 minutes using only the sequencer

¯_(ツ)_/¯

You can adjust the color, intensity etc by using the light track

And it will loop once the red line has been crossed

No scripting, no copy pasting nodes

He is questioning his existence atm

And i think there is already a looped node system possible, just needs to be tweaked

[plucky nexus]

yeah i got it working too

just a minute

i promise its not a new bacteria this time

@past canopy 😄

[past canopy]

Why on 4 directions?

Isn't the flash supposed to come from the top?

[plucky nexus]

because its a special sort of effect i want

lightning strikes causing long shadows

[past canopy]

Ohhh, okay yea that's fine

[plucky nexus]

as for the creature.... im not sure what must be done

should i kill it

[past canopy]

Hm?

oh

kill its existence

make it go into the void

[nocturne stirrup]

oh no ...Brains?

[plucky nexus]

i think its sentient

its gone

[past canopy]

@plucky nexus looks like Devtools doesn't like loops

[plucky nexus]

yeah, this aint good

[past canopy]

I think because you should trigger the "end node" only once

[plucky nexus]

also, is there a way to stop sequence loop after some time?

[past canopy]

What if you first make a node where its supposed to loop and then another one where the settings override for making "non looped" only

[plucky nexus]

hmm would it work tho

[past canopy]

You can also hide the lights using the "hide" node

So it wont be visible anymore

[plucky nexus]

there is another way

i can just copy paste lightning strike in sequencer to last 3 minutes

[past canopy]

If that's possible, yea

For the next contest "if so" i will try using the sequencer as a main attack tool agains other partitions

[past canopy]

That's what i did as well

[plucky nexus]

and it works flawlessly

an amazing system for moody custom maps

1 million nodes suddenly disappeared

[past canopy]

I'm proud of you

Improvise. Adapt. Overcome

[nocturne stirrup]

...Braaains?

[past canopy]

lol

[plucky nexus]

This bot has devious timing

[past canopy]

I can remove the role from you, so it wont happen ever again

[plucky nexus]

It's the opposite

I want to keep it forever

[past canopy]

The bot will do it only if you got the role

afaik

[plucky nexus]

Yes but they will remove it when the event is over won't they

[past canopy]

I hope so

[plucky nexus]

btw for some reason sequence is working in DT but not in game

its very strange

idk why its like that

im just one step away from making this work

[past canopy]

What you mean not working?

[plucky nexus]

the sequence doesnt play and the game directly skips to any other node after it

this is how it is

[past canopy]

remove check mark "is finishing"

[plucky nexus]

alr

[past canopy]

set "looped" for playsequence

[plucky nexus]

for the root area too?

or just the quest

[past canopy]

The quest

-> play looped
-> uncheck "is finished"

"is finished" -> stops quest

If your entire HUD is disappearing look for the checkbox saying "hide HUD" inside your sequence

It's enabled by default

[nocturne stirrup]

its still not working :/ ...Braains?

[past canopy]

Please show me all your settings

Also uncheck "is finished" in root area

to see if its causing that

[plucky nexus]

let me do just that

[plucky nexus]

which ones exactly

[past canopy]

your sequence

checkboxes etc

[plucky nexus]

alr

Wait

WTF

the sequence dots are all gone

[past canopy]

Did you opened the sequence using the sequence icon on your map?

Well, if you haven't saved it..

[plucky nexus]

no...

i just opened it

[past canopy]

-> open level
-> go to sequence icon
-> rightclick -> open sequence

entitys are selected?

[plucky nexus]

yeah i got em set up

[past canopy]

You saved before closing the sequencer?

[plucky nexus]

yep

save and reload

multiple times

[past canopy]

Weird..

You had "level" opened in order to edit the sequence and saving it?

If no that could be one of the reasons

[plucky nexus]

i had that opened too

idk maybe i shouldve made sequence shorter

ill try 120 seconds this time instead of 300

man wtf is wrong with this engine

i just saved and reloaded

mf disappeared again

im going crazy

AHHHH

whats wrong with c engine

usually it works

even 6 seconds of scene is not working

@deep bronze any idea whats going on with the engine today

While closing it i got option to save and reload

and boom everything disappears in sequencer

[fast lake]

anyone know what the BodyHole value in scripts/invintory/weapondefinitions is for?

[plucky nexus]

No idea, but I think this is a question that's more likely to be asked in the dying light 2 modding server

You can check the guys with modder roles and ask them about it

I've sent an invite, you can check it if you're up for it

[lyric sigil]

Hello

H

Yay

Y

Can anyone help with Shen xui bounties

[plucky nexus]

Not the best place to ask about this, please try this channel: #💬︱dying-light-2 or one of the lfg channels if you want someone to play together #💻︱lfg-dl2-pc #🎮︱lfg-dl2-xbox #🎮︱lfg-dl2-playstation

[lyric sigil]

Ok thanks

Im new to discord

Are you a map creator

[past canopy]

@plucky nexus Are you?

[plucky nexus]

i forgot

i remember now

[plucky nexus]

yes

[lyric sigil]

Could you maybe add another dlc like the following

And like cars