No it's not but whatever
#general
rancid latch
you'd do very well in crypto scams
desert iris
yess
vernal moth
Ah yes there comes the ad hominem
vagrant marlin
you are in a discord with a ton of people who know about the inner workings of minecraft
why arent they concerned?
golden gust
I mean, there are concerns
vagrant marlin
some
golden gust
people taking such concerns to the correct places are being slowly addressed by mojang
quiet echo
why arent they concerned?
They clearly either have greater faith in mojang than me for some reason, know something I dont or dont understand the whole situation
vernal moth
Nobody says we don't have concerns, we just don't make a fucking giant fuss about it but bring up the concerns to people who can actually have an impact
smoky cloud
You seem to be missing the point that the system isn’t live yet, Mojang requested feedback, and the release that was making the system live has been delayed
vernal moth
Lol
vagrant marlin
Nobody says we don't have concerns, we just don't make a fucking giant fuss abou...
right
spiral robin
They clearly either have greater faith in mojang than me for some reason, know s...
They’ve (mini) have said numerous times they have internal contact with Mojang that the public doesn’t
quiet echo
You seem to be missing the point that the system isn’t live yet, Mojang requeste...
You dont think more people talking about a vulnerability isnt a good way to get more feedback?
vernal moth
So just do as we do and wait for Mojangs response
golden gust
They know about the issue
rancid latch
They’ve (mini) have said numerous times they have internal contact with Mojang t...
would be kinda cool if mojang was less secretive about changes like this impacting the whole community
golden gust
people brigading them with the issue isn't gonna change anything
vagrant marlin
the issue exists, its known about, what else should happen?
smoky cloud
You dont think more people talking about a vulnerability isnt a good way to get ...
Publishing it publicly instead of disclosing it responsibly was fucking idiotic
vernal moth
Let's just stop we are running in circles, this is stupid
Let's switch topics
Hangar wen?
mild rune
right now
vernal moth
I mean, I did finally start the auth rework
mossy vessel
They’ve (mini) have said numerous times they have internal contact with Mojang t...
Imagine being here when you can work 
wide chasm
Hurry up mini, my plugins are getting cold waiting outside
vagrant marlin
hangar next week?
mild rune
pog
spiral robin
Imagine being here when you can work <:panda_sleep:652189908433109002>
I am waiting for tests to finish 
vernal moth
One might say that's the last major thing missing
mossy vessel
I'm waiting for my pizza to finish
spiral robin
What kind x
high mirage
How well does hangar search work
high mirage
is one of the things I like about modrinth
unkempt drift
Hangar wen?
when the whole backend is covered by unit and integration tests
mossy vessel
Some that was cheap 
vernal moth
Hey at work I am always close to 80%
wide chasm
when the whole backend is covered by unit and integration tests
Guess hangar never then
mossy vessel
Nothing better than an expired salami one
smoky cloud
Just test on prod
spiral robin
when the whole backend is covered by unit and integration tests
TRUE
high mirage
You have about 11500 tests already written in the discord here :3
mossy vessel
Let's integrate together 
vagrant marlin
paper 1.19.1 eta ??
smoky cloud
Paper 2.0 when
vagrant marlin
paper spigot 2.0 core kernel eta ??
vernal moth
Only need to figure out how hangar will run on our new infra, lol
wide chasm
Press start /s
smoky cloud
Is it running on the Oracle Cloud Free Tier /s
vernal moth
Plus, sadly, I fear there is one largish fronted refactor coming, but hopefully that's not gonna take too long
vagrant marlin
Is it running on the Oracle Cloud Free Tier /s
i hacked hangar and i know the answer
yes
vernal moth
I would never trust oracle to host anything
vernal moth
Same as I am avoiding IBM
smoky cloud
Imagine having to migrate all of your customers to Oracle 
vernal moth
Companies that burned me too much to every want to be in contact with ever again
foggy silo
Plus, sadly, I fear there is one largish fronted refactor coming, but hopefully ...
Another recode? 🥺
Unless this is ur work
vernal moth
No recode, just a refactor of some SSR stuff
To get rid of these hydration errors once and for all
mossy vessel
Hangar delayed until mini knows an acceptable share of k8s to run it himself and lock out everyone else
vernal moth
I think I know enough to be able to cause harm 😂
vagrant marlin
i hope hangar is async multithreaded SIMD
vernal moth
Hangar scales infinitely, one thread per request ^^
mossy vessel
This is acceptable too
vagrant marlin
😎
vagrant marlin
php rewrite when though
vernal moth
I don't think there is anything that would ever make me wanna write php
vagrant marlin
a job offer from oracle would
vernal moth
Right now I don't see myself ever leaving my company, lol
I did think about that for quite some time a while back because somebody at mojang did throw a job posting link at me but I just don't think I wanna leave
The lead of the whole sub part of the company (basically second only to the board) came into my office today all happy, showed me his phone with a Google data studio report open and showing that my rewrite of some app tripled the conversion rate
fast scarab
Think of the beer taxes in sweden tho
vernal moth
It's now our best selling product by value
Jumped from outside of the top 10 to top 1
Just because I and 2 juniors did rewrite it from scratch together with a UX designer
Those kinda feelings are undescribable
misty pasture
on that note, let me just thank you guys for paper MC. Went from +250s load times on server boot with spigot to 5s with paper
warm anchor
spiral robin
mossy vessel
koriAhegao
spiral robin
nmfAhegao when
misty pasture
Think of the beer taxes in sweden tho
also as a local swede i can tell you that once you get a taste for the expensive beer and whisky you realise the swedish alcohol market isn't that bad 😉
mossy vessel
is all you get
fast scarab
Yea but those alcohol taxes in sweden 😦
golden gust
as an old friend used to say; Ikea, the home of cheap, crappy, swedish furniture
fast scarab
but fun food
vernal moth
Yea but those alcohol taxes in sweden 😦
Yea but those alcohol taxes in sweden frowning
fast scarab
🙏
warm anchor
everything swedish is bad
I like Swedish fish
fast scarab
misty pasture
to each their own i guess 🙂 I like getting paid to study
vagrant marlin
i hate being paid!
golden gust
Oh, I had some good friends in sweden years back
fast scarab
Yea don't think you can argue too much with nordic models. Seem to work pretty well
golden gust
I even wanted to learn the language but, I got too busy with work and stuff
vagrant marlin
yeah but sweden is just bad
every other nordic country is good
sweden more like swebad
golden gust
all I kinda remember is "dina mamma ar en hund", but, you know, with the áä and the shocked ö for effect
worthy geode
yeah but sweden is just bad
why? because its not finland? 
vernal moth
to each their own i guess 🙂 I like getting paid to study
I did too here in Germany actually!
misty pasture
one of the many reasons
finland - the country of a hundred seas and a thousand speeding cameras
vagrant marlin
we are better in hockey!!
golden gust
Theres always switzerland
warm anchor
i ate swedish potatoes today
golden gust
"Some asshat crashed and so the entire country can't enjoy racing!"
warm anchor
vagrant marlin
swedish fish more like swedish bad
worthy geode
Switzerland is great. Just slightly expensive
warm anchor
misty pasture
literally saw 5 speeding cams on a straight road in northern finland, 100km/h for 300km 🥱
golden gust
or are at least discussing it
vernal moth
I don't get the appeal of Switzerland
South Tirol is everything Switzerland is but better
vagrant marlin
literally saw 5 speeding cams on a straight road in northern finland, 100km/h fo...
smh just pretend to drive slowly
golden gust
Meanwhile in the UK, on the highway, speed cameras are kinda rare bar some areas
vernal moth
Meanwhile on the German Autobahn
golden gust
and so everybody is doing 80-90 when the national limit is 70
vagrant marlin
dont speak about the autobahn
vernal moth
I can't believe we still don't have a fucking speed limit
vagrant marlin
its not a road
golden gust
then you see some car with the yellow an red shevron things, and everybody just crawls down
worthy geode
Never been to south tirol tbh, I imagine it to be similar to the austrian part of tirol
golden gust
and then you realise that it's just bloody highway maintanence, or even worse, highway motor patrol, and everybody speeds back up again
vernal moth
Never been to south tirol tbh, I imagine it to be similar to the austrian part o...
You do notice the Italian impact, the Italian mentality is there
worthy geode
Similar to the italian part of Switzerland?
vernal moth
Idk
spiral robin
@mossy vessel 
potent wedge
<:yeah:700711253290778655>
But genshin has a official server
worthy geode
Spent pretty much every summer in my childhood in Ticino, so yeah
worthy geode
other than mountains
great public transport
potent wedge
what does switzerland have
Insane fortifications and bunkers and water for all that and a distribution system for all that too
vagrant marlin
that is something ive heard
vernal moth
what does switzerland have
Corrupt banks?
golden gust
ah, yes, great public transport
Now, if only it lead to some place worth it, other than the airport
vagrant marlin
does switzerland have bridges that blow up?
potent wedge
Insane fortifications and bunkers and water for all that and a distribution syst...
I think there's like 3 rivers when only 1 is needed and they can't fail
worthy geode
its pretty beautiful. also lots of ski resorts, and I like skiing so thats a big plus (like the flag )
potent wedge
does switzerland have bridges that blow up?
Yes, they can destroy their infastructure at a moments notice I'm sure, not just the bridges.
vernal moth
If skiing wasn't so bad to nature I would enjoy it more
misty pasture
one word : raclette
vagrant marlin
Yes, they can destroy their infastructure at a moments notice I'm sure, not just...
sounds good!
usa has now conquered the entire world: except switzerland
potent wedge
They also have good infastructure and are known for excellent engineering
vagrant marlin
switzerland blowed up their bridges
mossy vessel
<@254790994594234370> <:koriLaugh:790888954802995270> <:koriLaugh:79088895480299...
lovege
vernal moth
The swiss are good at tunnels
vagrant marlin
they have to be kek
warm anchor
Mini would know… digger is literally his name..
vernal moth
Gotthard base tunnel is epic
golden gust
only thing mini digs is holes
vagrant marlin
does mini make only small tunnels?
worthy geode
yeah, ski tourism is way too industrialised sadly. and destroying more nature is really profitable in the industry (e.g. preparing slopes without enough snow, which destroys the ground below them way more)
vagrant marlin
destroying nature is always profitable
vernal moth
only thing mini digs is holes
That is true
I really need to search vacation pics from me as a kid in the giant holes I did dig in beaches
That's where my dad gave me the name
worthy geode
usa has now conquered the entire world: except switzerland
they also have bunkers in some of their tunnels, and they had big underground military fortresses for a long time. the swiss are a bit weird when it comes to their neutrality and military
potent wedge
I would go live in Switzerland if there was a apocalypse
worthy geode
have fun with the swiss german language
lilac moon
waxen panther
god i hate this trend
spare venture
god i hate you
lilac moon
I love this trend
true canyon
Signing into paypal gave me a "please change your password" prompt, trying to change my password gave an error.
😦
ashen cliff
Signing into paypal gave me a "please change your password" prompt, trying to ch...
And perma banned.
lilac moon
Paypal, more like payenemy
magic river
Amazon randomly forced me to change my password today too, weird
I guess my unique 24 length password with uppercase, lowercase, numbers, and symbols was considered insecure after 2 years
void void
viral dagger
I guess my unique 24 length password with uppercase, lowercase, numbers, and sym...
amazon should not be able to check how secure your password is after the fact
although they could check it client-sided when you log in
magic river
You could estimate entropy when creating/changing password and use it to schedule an expiration
But yeah, it was probably just a stock time thing or because I was logging in from a hotel earlier this week
hushed mirage
Does anyone know how I could get Ilmangos gold farm to work on paper?
lone bridge
hmm. is it worldedit that makes you jump with a compass?
void void
yes
lone bridge
I was feeling too lazy to work out how to turn it off so I deopped myself, attuned to the lodestone, then reopped myself lol
unkempt drift
https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/7285705024909-Minecraft-Beta-Pr...
so its just a visual thing yeah? chunks outside ticking range, so it just can make the world look better from a client's perspective
daring laurel
https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/7285705024909-Minecraft-Beta-Pr...
if this comes to java ed, cant wait for spigot to disable it 🙂
unkempt jackal
car
magic river
So long as the server doesn't hide the world seed (can't really do this anymore) or change the seed for anything visible from from the surface (villages, trees, etc) that would work fine
I'm surprised there isn't a mod for it already
void void
There are java mods that do something similar
(Except they do it by caching chunks the server sends)
The seed was never a secret in bedrock apparently
crystal lilyBOT
To download old versions of Paper, click here ➡️ papermc.io/legacy ⬅️ and fill out the questions. Note that old versions are completely unsupported and contain numerous bugs/exploits.
hushed mirage
Is there a way to fix gold/xp farms so they work on paper?
coarse lily
Lots of gold and XP farms work on Paper, just not ones that require nether portals.
charred sleet
so its just a visual thing yeah? chunks outside ticking range, so it just can ma...
that’s smort 
tired fog
To download old versions of Paper, click here **➡️ [papermc.io/legacy](https://p...
about this legacy message, is there no actual checking when someone goes to download a legacy version? or is there a cookie set so people who have dont have to do it again
i would just check but im not home rn
coarse lily
IIRC you have to answer every time.
warm anchor
You can write down the correct answers to kinda cheat the system on second time. Don’t tell anyone I told you this @tired fog
tired fog
i havent had to answer it in a long time
warm anchor
tired fog
sadly i am regularly downloading 1.8.8 because 1. i am stupid and 2. i am stupid
and 3. im working on trying to learn the protocols and how they work so im running servers of different versions and its actually quicker for me to use paper than it is vanilla or spigot buildtools
using real servers in parity with wiki.vg guidance
tired fog
it shows it for a second and then immediately brings me to download page
thats all i remember
if its a bug then hey ill take the accidental convenience but if not and this is works as intended ill still take the convenience
worthy geode
if (localStorage.getItem("quiz-complete") == "true") {
document.getElementById("quiz").style.display = 'none';
document.getElementById("content").style.display = 'block';
}
looks like it saves it
tired fog
ah
i love how theyre not doing strict checking but still checking as a string and not just if getItem quiz-complete
worthy geode
iirc the website is a bit of mess anyways
coarse lily
It's not really designed to be a major huge roadblock to people who know what they're getting into.
Mostly just to stop the randos from saying "I downloaded 1.8 and it's not working help" etc
They still do it but at least we've warned them :)
tired fog
iirc the website is a bit of mess anyways <:kekw:674093681963302933>
just a little funny to someone who frequents JS lol
maybe ill PR the site 😏
tired fog
hmm
void void
i love how theyre not doing strict checking but still checking as a string and n...
written by the worlds bestest webdev, Michael
warm anchor
Think Michael just wipe out his notepad and write it on the spot. Can’t blame him 
inland edge
Giant hoe
worthy geode
people in that office probably wondering how there is a mop appearing outside on the 3rd floor
vernal moth
The kinda strength needed to control that is insane too
strong vector
startmc.sh is not working for me, anyone else?
crystal lilyBOT
strong vector
oh thanks :)
crystal lilyBOT
vague lagoon
needed it myself aswell lol
strong vector
lol
twin lagoon
i love how theyre not doing strict checking but still checking as a string and n...
i don't even know what strict checking is
nor do i want to know
github copilot wrote like 40% of the code for the quiz
void void
it's the fun difference between == and ===
frank otter
what the hell is ===
wide chasm
=== is where you actually check the equality of values in JS, with == you're checking equality after JS did it's complete garbage conversion of types.
This table shows it quite well: https://dorey.github.io/JavaScript-Equality-Table/
frank otter
I now understand why people hate on javascript
tired fog
javascript is fun and not rage inducing whatsoever
frank otter
like I knew it was a mess, I did not think it was this much of a mess
why even have the == operator available if its like this
tired fog
because Javscript
theres plenty of quirks in it
theres something with empty arrays too
cant remember what
complete mess of a language but it does what it needs to, somehow
vernal aspen
The lamest memes are the IEEE754 floating point ones
frank otter
https://dev.to/damxipo/javascript-versus-memes-explaining-various-funny-memes-2o...
God that's cursed
tired fog
The lamest memes are the IEEE754 floating point ones
theyre boring to me bc theyre not specific to JS
floating point numbers simply suck all the time
vernal aspen
Theyre not, thats part of it
past cloud
Been through a fair few now and i can’t get one where it meets my needs
tropic flame
mom's TV going strong since at the very least 2008
- based SCART port for the playstation 2 😎
sacred veldt
Anyone got anticheat recommendations
Grim or NCP
past cloud
Grim was great but i had a lot of people getting kicked for sending too many packets
I increased the threshold in paper and via to about 1000 and it barely made a difference unfortunately
golden gust
I've had a few CRTs deaded down the years, but, kinda sad that you can't even get dumb TVs these days
golden gust
PMSL
I mean, to be fair, detecting what people can play is a joyous PITA, especially when you get weird wrapper setups
God I miss the days of klite
void void
we love JS and its APIs
worn ember
all my homies hate js
its ez to dabble in a bit
but if you gotta write actual functional code its poopoo
fallen grotto
mom's TV going strong since at the very least 2008
2008 is old for a tv?
golden gust
I mean, by tech progression, yes
by, "everything these days is hardly built to last", yes
by, "ye ol tech which takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'", no
worn ember
we currently have a washing machine thats like 15 years old and one of the door hinges broke so we strapped that bitch together but we cant find any parts for it anymore
so even if they're built to last you cant even repair them when something breaks
golden gust
if it was built to last, you'd be able to find parts for it
That's the general expectation of being built to last
worn ember
well... not if they dont produce parts for it anymore 15 years later
golden gust
hinges are a mechanical part, and will wear away, that's one of the few parts you're supposed to be able to replace
worn ember
literally everything breaking around here lmfao
golden gust
it's the DED effect
worn ember
we had our dishwasher fail too, had to replace the motor, our oven gave in, also had to repair that
and yesterday our cooling cell broke, luckily that was only the temp sensor
so we had a spare one laying around
that cooling cell is like 40 years old lol
golden gust
but, yea, "built to last" generally implies that
- it's actually built to last
- the parts which are expected to wear out are replacable easily with parts accessible
lasting 15 years is great, but, if they're using none standard EZ replacable parts for things which break jsut due to standard wear and tear, it's not built to last
worn ember
nothing built 15 years ago is still standard
well not in commercial products at least
"hurdur soo much e-waste" yeah maybe make shit repairable then
golden gust
a fucking hinge is a fucking hinge man
worn ember
we literally have to glue shit together and tinker with shit so we can repair it
golden gust
it's not too hard to make a decent hinge for a machine and just, keep using it
I mean, sometimes theres a compatible part
if you haven't already I'd suggest getting the part # of the OG thing and asking used repair shops
worn ember
well we couldnt find it anywhere
if my dad wasnt an electrician we wouldve had to throw all those things away and buy new ones cuz meh capitalism
rancid void
what
golden gust
inb4 line ending bs
rancid void
newline or not doesn't matter.
... is that a CRLF/LF thing
golden gust
yes
rancid void
There is no newline 🤔
golden gust
otherwise, no idea, shit like that generally implies encoding issues, or you just borked something else
rancid void
echo "eula=true" > eula.txt
like I always do it before the first start
golden gust
which leaves a newline
rancid void
Removed it and it still doesn't want to start. wat
rare python
1.19 added a new way of doing negative width spaces.
A much simpler / easier way.
Anyway... resource pack go brrrrrr https://github.com/HorizonsEndMC/ResourcePack/blob/6f32fa721f84cd00ec5485f18135aa6d3464e4a3/assets/horizonsend/font/special.json
rancid void
siiiiiighh
golden gust
depends on what you mean by add, if you mean, "add an existing world alongside the default ones", use multiverse, otherwise, replace the world folder
wanton juniper
ah ill try that tyvm
coarse venture
siiiiiighh
just add it to your jvm startup params, who needs a .txt file anyway
spiral robin
@mossy vessel @void void
mossy vessel
hello?
ashen cliff
2008 is old for a tv?
2009 Sony Bravia still going strong.
Firmware hacked and patched to fix overscan. 
rancid void
just add it to your jvm startup params, who needs a .txt file anyway
there was a \r
yes, that's all
mossy vessel
hi
spiral robin
How’s life
mossy vessel
rancid void
How’s life
💩
unkempt jackal
suscraft
wet storm
beer consumer.
vernal moth
Beer enjoyer
grim prairie
Hello everyone! i am wondering what paper is good for. ive heard that it improves the speed of your server. does it do something else?
unkempt drift
By itself? Not really (what would it “do” exactly?). But plugins designed specifically for paper can have more functionality.
void void
Well it also fixes bugs and exploits
grim prairie
so by using paper is a better option than using just vanilla minecraft?
warm anchor
Certain thing you can change like entity-tracking-range for player in spigot.yml
The default is a bit on the low side for small server imo
warm anchor
It depends on your server. I run a survival with friends only so I made it almost as much as simulation distance because I don’t get many players in one area at once
grim prairie
the server i am on currently only have 4 people on it
warm anchor
Yeah you can probably get away with a high number there so you can see your friend from more than 4 chunks away
I think default is either 36 or 48 I don’t remember
grim prairie
alr
warm anchor
I’d just run with default everything else to see. It should be no issue for a 4 player server
grim prairie
okay thank you sir
warm anchor
Feel free to ask question in #paper-help
grim prairie
thanks 
tropic flame
I love arbitrary restrictions against modern browsers that actually care about the user
... changing the user agent works
ripe sphinx
What browser?
tropic flame
Firefox
grim prairie
tropic flame
version 102, was released like a day or two ago
warm anchor
Hey they have chrome there! It’s not anti consumer!
tropic flame
I cringe whenever I need to touch on Chromium-based, but whatever
tropic flame
Hey they have chrome there! It’s not anti consumer!
even though Chrome and Edge are basically the same, just reskinned
twin lagoon
I love arbitrary restrictions against modern browsers that actually care about t...
i wouldn't be surprised if they use apis that firefox does not implement
wheat stratus
Does anyone know of any plugins that remove/hide all players nametags without using the /team command? That command messes with dogs being allowed to attack players and idk how to change that…
agile portal
I love arbitrary restrictions against modern browsers that actually care about t...
I remember having to disable 90% of tracking blockers to use teams back then
tropic flame
agile portal
I cringe whenever I need to touch on Chromium-based, but whatever
are you using the discord app..?
void void
i wouldn't be surprised if they use apis that firefox does not implement
they don't
tropic flame
*are you using the discord app..?*
I am and I have a problem with it
void void
Teams works completely fine on FF with a spoofed useragent
tropic flame
I have a problem with everything nowadays being Chromium-based
tropic flame
Teams works completely fine on FF with a spoofed useragent
oh thanks for the info, I might just force my way through with Firefox then
agile portal
they don't
they probably just test against edge
and they don't want people to send tickets about ff not working so they straight up block it
agile portal
I have a problem with everything nowadays being Chromium-based
I just use discord from the browser to be honest
works fine for my needs
tropic flame
works fine for my needs
are you able to screenshare?
I mean, I often stream games to friends
agile portal
let me see
tropic flame
so streaming with sound is something I want
agile portal
I think you have less control due to browser permissions and such
warm anchor
Inb4 another Firefox isssue 
agile portal
also game status or overlays don't work if you're into that
hexed dragon
wicked wolf
hi, i need some help with some server config, anyone can help me?
worn ember
tropic flame
also game status or overlays don't work if you're into that
oh, true, I guess that's a shame. the overlay isn't something I like much though
especially when having two monitors
I can just have discord on the second one
wicked wolf
so, i made some teams in vanilla minecraft with /team. i also modified them, with color, prefix and suffix, etc.
after i installed papermc teams no longer "work". They are displayed at Tab Key, but on chat (i.e) my nickname has no color, any chance it can be changed?
lament patio
There's indeed an option in paper.yml to allow vanilla to handle those colors, I just forgot the name
wicked wolf
where's paper.yml? i'm using also using aternos for a sv w friends
lament patio
Inside the config folder
crystal lilyBOT
Where did paper.yml go?
In 1.19, paper.yml has been split into two files, both in the config directory. In paper-global.yml you will find configuration that changes behavior of the whole server, and in paper-world-defaults you will find configuration that can be overridden on a per world basis. See https://docs.papermc.io/paper/per-world-configuration for more information on overrides. The function of server.properties, bukkit.yml, and spigot.yml remains unchanged for this time.
warm anchor
@wicked wolf ^
warm anchor
dont know how Aterno panel looks like you may have to ask them if you still cant find it.
wicked wolf
i can edit paper.yml, but i don't know what option allows me to let vanilla handle the teams
coarse venture
ridiculous ppl posting utter nonsense there, i dont bother reading it.
warm anchor
potent wedge
<:FacePalm:508847566960590858>
I'm actually watching next generation rn
warm anchor
I'm actually watching next generation rn
Pog
coarse venture
is that a baby calendar?
wicked wolf
does anyone know what option lets vanilla handle teams? still can't find it ;O;
spiral robin
I'm actually watching next generation rn
mossy vessel
hello aber
spiral robin
Why, hello there!
mossy vessel
hello best michele
unkempt drift
Does it say I’ve been playing bloons for the past 14 hours?
twin lagoon
no
unkempt drift
Smh, my laptop is closed. Was all night
potent wedge
<:GWvertiPeepoChrist:405951687480705024>
twin lagoon
spiral robin
Sheesh
unkempt drift
…
foggy silo
On the grind 😉
wicked wolf
is there really an option in paper-global-yml that lets vanilla run the teams? cause i don't seem to find it
twin lagoon
it should exist yes
wicked wolf
i can't seem to find it. i have teams created, just with color, suffixes and prefixes
but once i run the server on paper, it won't show
but in vanilla works perfectly fine
unkempt drift
there is an option that deletes empty teams
you need to disable that
what do you mean it won't show
wicked wolf
so, when i press Tab key, it will show all players online in the server
both in paper and vanilla, will show me everything i added to the teams, such as color, suffixes, etc etc
but in paper, whenever sends a text in-game chat, the name will appear as normal
just white
unkempt drift
you want use-vanilla-world-scoreboard-name-coloring
at least thats what its called in 1.19
if you are editing a paper.yml file, you arent on 1.19
magic river
You also want to avoid using any plugins that modify chat
unkempt drift
it might be called something different, some were renamed for 1.19. so just ctrl+f for words in that name in your paper.yml
wicked wolf
i'm using paper/bukkit 1.19, im editing paper-global.yml
i have all plugins disabled at the moment
wicked wolf
you want `use-vanilla-world-scoreboard-name-coloring`
and this option is at the paper-global.yml?
unkempt drift
oh you are on 1.19. you said paper.yml a couple times so I thought you werent
no its a per-world setting, so its in paper-world-defaults.yml
wicked wolf
oh aight, it's a server i made from scratch a few days ago, running completely on 1.19
warm anchor
where's paper.yml? i'm using also using aternos for a sv w friends
Do they allow you to edit file via sftp download or is it just panel?
magic river
Need to start sharing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI again
On a related note, Guybrush Threepwood is pissed at the "fans"
muted storm
lmao that's a great video
magic river
People are really upset to learn they were supposed to be following some global moderation guidelines this whole time but now Mojang is going to do it for them
noble seal
is there a way to take a city type world and load it on a server without the chunks breaking, because I just tried it and they break 😦 using a later version of the world, which shouldn't be a problem
visual egret
anyone else doing compsci for GCSE
because all we do is play minecraft in class
and we still get 9's (A*'s for people familiar with the old system, A+ for americans)
visual egret
OCR?
frank otter
nope
visual egret
oh
frank otter
hopefully they're more capable than mine
visual egret
if it was OCR i'd excpect errors because it was a new syllabus
frank otter
also they distributed the practical files in a 7zip
They said they'd made amendments to the paper to compensate for covid
the zip was last modified two years ago
visual egret
the new OCR syllabus doesn't have any practicals
its all on paper
python on an exam paper <<<<
frank otter
sheesh im here being forced to learn java
and using Greenfoot, and the version is like from God knows how long ago
past cloud
OCR 😠
visual egret
ocr is awful
frank otter
I mean my experience with wjec has been terrible too
visual egret
apparently the year 11's this year got a very easy paper
im expecting a very hard one next year
ashen cliff
ocr is awful
OCR is amazing. 🛌
visual egret
krusic do you know what an OCR is
past cloud
I mean my experience with wjec has been terrible too
wjec is so easy
frank otter
the papers have so many errors lol
visual egret
AQA and Edexcel have had a series of failiures this year lmao
they labeled a map wrong on a geography paper
past cloud
no exam board can get it right
frank otter
I think wjec screwed up bad on a level maths
visual egret
AQA had an impossible maths question at the end of one of the papers iirc
frank otter
the circles one?
past cloud
it doesn’t look impossible
past cloud
i mean if it was me back when i was at gcse i’d explode if i saw that question
visual egret
thats the answer apparently
anyway
i have double computing tomorrow
that means we have 2 hours of playing minecraft in school tomorrow
frank otter
I think I'd be able to manage it with a calculator but in exam conditions ye it'd be painful
visual egret
i don't think i've covered the content yet
frank otter
it was like top end of the last question difficulty spectrum I think
frank otter
i don't think i've covered the content yet
AFAIK it's mostly basic circle stuff, and then a bit of trig
visual egret
we haven't done any trig yet 🙂
visual egret
next school year
frank otter
trig isn't too hard it's more being able to figure out what you have to do than the doing it
visual egret
so far i'd argue the most painful thing in maths gcse is quadratics
mf "solve using completing the square"
frank otter
the quadratic formula feels like having teeth pulled out
visual egret
the quadratif formula is easy
frank otter
I just have to plug so many random numbers in and hope I don't make a typo?
frank otter
oh that's a good point
visual egret
that's what i do at least, much faster and less space for typos
frank otter
shame I've already done my exams
frank otter
completing the square for us was in admaths
we didn't get many questions, but it didn't seem too tricky
visual egret
admaths?
visual egret
never heard of it
i know some of the smarter kids are doing statistics
but that's about it
frank otter
I think it's a wjec thing
visual egret
i guess
you ever walk out of an exam thinking "that was the easiest shit ever i got full marks on that" and you end up getting like 50% 😭
frank otter
not really tbh
golden gust
frank otter
admaths is like calculus and shizz
visual egret
i did that with my biology and chemistry and ended up getting like 62% and 71% 🙂
lilac moon
https://twitter.com/Sci_Phile/status/1542558497056862208
found them
visual egret
anyway, back to chemistry revision :p
lilac moon
theyre in the rounded cornmers of the embed
lone shuttle
thats the answer apparently
Edexel GCSE Maths Paper Last Question 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
lone shuttle
my friend (just went round his) showed me a snap of one of his asian friends solving it lmao
he taught me how to cook asian rice
golden gust
- get rice cooker
golden gust
- there is no step 2
lone shuttle
1) get rice cooker
he did
lone shuttle
random
thats what we did though
and thats why i say
cuz he also show me
while we wait for cook
visual egret
cool
glass crag
whenever i tried a rice cooker it all gets stuck to the bottom/burns
golden gust
I've had a few friends whom where surprised that I cooked rice using a pan lol
glass crag
pan is the way!
visual egret
i forgot how to cook rice
lilac moon
my mom always uses a rice cooker and she's vietnamese
visual egret
shit
long swift
What is the most up to date minecraft server voting plugin?
visual egret
nuvotifier? idk
long swift
Does Votifier still work or is it NuVotifier
golden gust
Well, I have this skin condition
Which means I was born without having a rice cooker
lilac moon
wat
golden gust
I'm white
lilac moon
fr
warm anchor
Cat send address I will send you a cooker
worthy geode
Does Votifier still work or is it NuVotifier
NuVotifier, votifier has some issues
visual egret
What is the most up to date minecraft server voting plugin?
https://github.com/nuvotifier/NuVotifier looks updated and supports velocity so looks great
golden gust
I came from a family which was scared of everything "not british", so, like, yea... I didn't even have sushi until my 20's
lilac moon
wtf
visual egret
wha
i mean
i've never really had sushi
i stole some from my friend once but thats about it lol
worthy geode
for some reason my parents really like asian food, so they have a rice cooker and a wok and everything else
and they make their food way too spicy
visual egret
let me be
lilac moon
my mom always makes too spicy
fossil crater
anyone mind helping
my server just keeps stopping
theres no console errors
other than it just saying its stopping
charred sleet
i've never really had sushi
eyyyyyyyyy same
twin lagoon
provide logs in #paper-help @fossil crater
visual egret
first thing that comes to mind is OOM
rare python
Love it when intellij fails to hotswap even though the only thing that was changed was a string
golden gust
jetbrains runtime apparently supports the hotswap agent
past cloud
Does Votifier still work or is it NuVotifier
😻 vand
rare python
Trying to work on some code, and I have to restart the server every minute because intellij hotswap is borked
golden gust
.rekt
lilac moon
lmao
golden gust
using userdev?
rare python
Nope
golden gust
gawd knows, probs classloader BS
lilac moon
iirc thats the same error i got on velocity which doesnt even have to deal with the obfuscation stuff
foggy veldt
So um
timber warren
yea...
foggy veldt
I'm not sure where to start
rare python
This HAS to be a joke... right?
visual egret
i hope so
foggy veldt
visual egret
or just a batch file
timber warren
i downloaded as needed and did everything
foggy veldt
That guide is written by my best friend eternity (he's also a paper staff member now) and it shows you how to get started with paper
My content blocker is blocking the startmc site but iirc it gives you a jist of what to do
lilac moon
Paper Chan
timber warren
oh also im using tlauncher 1.16.5
rare python
hot take: paper chan is bad
lilac moon
hot take: paper chan is bad
Gawr Gura is better
rare python
What?
foggy veldt
hot take: paper chan is bad
I think she's alright, I think she needs more lore tho. Is she clumsy? Is she smug? The people need answers
rare python
No, they don't.
foggy veldt
Yes 
rare python
is there a plugin that can run wasm?
wasm? Web Assembly? No.
visual egret
oh also im using tlauncher 1.16.5
nice troll
agile portal
for shits and giggles
visual egret
thats like
timber warren
nice troll
bruh im not even joking
lilac moon
can i run rust on the minecraft server
agile portal
can i run rust on the minecraft server
well yes but it's an involved process
lilac moon
you get bedrock with that too for free now
you always have
foggy veldt
Anyways back to the important topic
rare python
you get bedrock with that too for free now
I'd count that as a downside.
foggy veldt
Imagine paper chan doing the chika dance
lilac moon
well yes but it's an involved process
💀
agile portal
you have to fuck with JNI
rare python
It's not that hard?
foggy veldt
That should be next open collective milestone, to commission a paperchan animation
timber warren
pay for the game then come back
uhh what if my family does not let me pay??
lilac moon
guess ill wirte plugisns in rust instead then
agile portal
I'd only done it with c, no idea to be honest
visual egret
then uhh dont break the law by getting the game illegally
your family has heard of microsoft right?
its a pretty big company
its relativley safe
rare python
I could very quickly adapt this into a Minecraft plugin. https://github.com/Peter-Crawley/kotlin-rust-example
agile portal
but you have to compile for separate architectures
rare python
lol
cunning raft
one is bad enough
timber warren
then uhh dont break the law by getting the game illegally
hell no we lithuanians dont know bruh expect gamers know it and boring teachers
rare python
LOL
rare python
you can stop
Okay, converting it into a plugin now.
mild rune
kotlin 
visual egret
then use ur inherent slavic skill to run the server yourself
agile portal
one is bad enough
and the other? 
visual egret
thats what i did lmao
little frost
and the other? <:thonk:463842968097521675>
worse
void void
Okay, converting it into a plugin now.
please don't.
cunning raft
rust syntax makes kotlin syntax look sane
timber warren
then use ur inherent slavic skill to run the server yourself
bruh i made a server just need plugins
rare python
Heh, went to import it into intellij
visual egret
the fact that you sent us that screenshot shows you cant make a server
as for plugins, spigotmc, or hangar (coming soon)
lilac moon
at least rust is cool
foggy veldt
Haskell syntax makes anything look sane
timber warren
as for plugins, spigotmc, or hangar (coming soon)
i just need PLUGINS
lilac moon
Haskell syntax makes anything look sane
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
foggy veldt
Less code at the price that it's only readable by some math professor who is a hobbyist programmer
lilac moon
I could very quickly adapt this into a Minecraft plugin. https://github.com/Pete...
this isnt too bad
rare python
I should combine this with the cursed technology of Watvelkit
rare python
daring laurel
I could very quickly adapt this into a Minecraft plugin. https://github.com/Pete...
I’m a bit curious, can you tell how this could help with making minecraft plugins?
foggy silo
kotlin makes me exhale a large amount of carbon dioxide.
lilac moon
rust is so cool and quirky
agile portal
java makes me inhale carbon monoxide
void void
I’m a bit curious, can you tell how this could help with making minecraft plugin...
it does not
foggy veldt
I have no problems with kotlin I just dont mind java enough to use it
rare python
I’m a bit curious, can you tell how this could help with making minecraft plugin...
Any code that is incredibly demanding but does not need to interact with the API could be written in Rust instead for performance, but other then that... completely useless.
daring laurel
kotlin makes me exhale a large amount of carbon dioxide.
you gotta try it… I thought the same thing, but it makes things much easier imo
lilac moon
Any code that is incredibly demanding but does not need to interact with the API...
but java slow and bad
foggy silo
I've had enough kotlin propaganda force fed to me, I won't budge!!
foggy veldt
Have anyone ever forcefed you scala tho
agile portal
Any code that is incredibly demanding but does not need to interact with the API...
as long as the overhead of the call is less time consuming than the operation
foggy silo
Don't even get me started 
rare python
Time to make a plugin that can run python code using jython
little frost
as long as the overhead of the call is less time consuming than the operation
which it won't ever be with the modern java jit
foggy veldt
I'm no katrix but scala is really nice even if you don't touch the fp side at all
void void
can we ban peter for his war crimes
rare python
LOL
agile portal
Time to make a plugin that can run python code using jython
hear me out.
embed v8 into a plugin
compile cpython to wasm
profit
daring laurel
Don't even get me started <:Wailing:957692742807466075>
please get started, why is kotlin so bad
lilac moon
hear me out.
embed v8 into a plugin
compile cpython to wasm
profit
i already made the nodejs joke too late
you could power your server by a v8 car engine though
daring laurel
Any code that is incredibly demanding but does not need to interact with the API...
can you show how you would transfer for example a string over from kotlin to rust and then add a letter and transfer it back?
lilac moon
look at that kotlin rust example
agile portal
can you show how you would transfer for example a string over from kotlin to rus...
add a letter?
rare python
Ya, I think any java primitive should work
dark delta
Bruh, my paper core give a bsod to my pc
agile portal
a c string might roughly convert to &str
&[u8]
foggy silo
please get started, why is kotlin so bad
search from:273258543132442624 kotlin
agile portal
not a single point made here
yep
foggy silo
I know i'm not actually going to argue about it because I already lost brain cells doing it in the past.
rare python
Kotlin is good.
daring laurel
go ahead, bitch all you want, but java takes 20x the code for the same stuff
foggy silo
He just is super funny
agile portal
I have yet to see proper bashing of kotlin with arguments
foggy silo
I'm not arguing at all, i'm just saying i'd rather not work in kotlin haha.
No need to attack me
agile portal
that's fine
lilac moon
search "rust" from me
43 results
rare python
Pretty sure the only major argument against Kotlin is that it requires it's runtime libraries which consume a good chunk of storage
daring laurel
(and if you do dont do it in a chat room with people that like it)
WHO CARES ABOUT 15 extra mb
agile portal
Pretty sure the only major argument against Kotlin is that it requires it's runt...
meh throw that shit into libraries
daring laurel
too many times ive heard that shitty point
foggy silo
I again have my reasons but like, it's alot of just personal preference for me.
daring laurel
what? is your hard drive 20mb?
rare python
You can't relocate kotlin's package either...
agile portal
you can't?
daring laurel
I again have my reasons but like, it's alot of just personal preference for me.
and nobodys forcing you to share them, but in a public chat room if you say somes bad, some people may disagree
agile portal
Because kotlin.Any is weird
is that not pretty much Object?
daring laurel
very descriptive
lilac moon
what? is your hard drive 20mb?
yes
halcyon wind
hello!
How can i canceled all player commands?
I try to use CommandExecuteEvent, with set CommandResult.denied, but command is working perfectly
agile portal
it's working perfectly? great
daring laurel
hello!
How can i canceled all player commands?
I try to use CommandExecuteEvent,...
ask in #paper-dev
rare python
is that not pretty much Object?
The class is treated as if it exists, but it does not actually exist.
lilac moon
is it like any in typescript?
rare python
At least I think thats how it works
daring laurel
idk, just so much hate around kotlin and so little reasons to hate it
people love to complain and never like to share reasons why
its just a bandwagon thing
rare python
Tried relocating kotlin, everything broke because it could not find the class file, which was not even present when not relocated.
foggy silo
and nobodys forcing you to share them, but in a public chat room if you say some...
And that's fine, i'm just not really here to argue whether or not something is better/worse.
It's not fun usually 😛
daring laurel
isnt the internet made for arguing
coarse lily
No.
warm anchor
Depend on the user 
rare python
Those who think Kotlin is bad are grumpy people who like their NullPointerExceptions this is a joke by the way
void void
kotlin using the fun keyword to define methods is just an attempt to distract you from the fact that kotlin is, in fact, not fun
rare python
lol
daring laurel
people who think kotlin are bad because it has 20mb of library should see how big adventure is (and upgrade from a 1gb harddrive)
rare python
Kotlin is 12 MB
agile portal
kotlin using the fun keyword to define methods is just an attempt to distract yo...
how so?
rare python
At least based off of my compiled plugin jar that contains it
lilac moon
wdym add
lilac moon
lmao i love this
rare python
Lol
agile portal
does it literally just copy paste it for you and thats it
shh
rare python
At least based off of my compiled plugin jar that contains it
ignore the fact that the plugin contains both velocity-plugin.json and plugin.yml
lilac moon
oh the rust update was today i forgot
rare python
I am a master of cursed techniques.
lilac moon
i have so many random targets installed
why do i even have msvc target
i cant build that
rare python
Which is mostly extension functions
rare python
I am a master of cursed techniques.
And this:
class Position<T : Number>(
val x: T,
val y: T,
val z: T
)
Why have things like Vec3i and Vec3f when you can just have Position<Int>?
lilac moon
kotlin
rare python
And this:
```kt
class Position<T : Number>(
val x: T,
val y: T,
val ...
I know this is terrible, I don't care.
lilac moon
boxes???? like in rust?!
rare python
Its convenient
lean kiln
(It's lazy)
rare python
And because of Kotlin I don't need to bother specifying the types alot of the time
rare python
(It's lazy)
Correct!
lilac moon
rare python
Kotlin good
daring laurel
lilac moon
rare python
gonna restart my computer, maybe that will get intellij to figure out how hot swapping works
lilac moon
since when was he called ferris
rare python
Since forever?
warm anchor
lilac moon
no one told me that
why coconut, in the rust server
im having fun
980/1096, almost done
also only like 10 of these are actually used in this program
it compiles 3 web frameworks too
lilac moon
oh i looked it up and got jetbrains fleet
i did try sccache before but it didnt cache anything for some reason
they were all misses
prime coral
lilac moon
im gonna ask if the author of this meme project can remove the over 1000 unused dependencies
rare python
lol
prime coral
Can you compile this smoll hello world program too pls? https://github.com/mTvare6/hello-world.rs
prime coral
rare python
HAHA you should add actions workflow
lilac moon
yep
rare python
It would take forever
lilac moon
at least it would prevent me from having to compile it locally to test
although dependencies cache so its not too bad
visual egret
i hate how you cant fork a repo muyltiple times on the same account on github
heard of branches?
lilac moon
heard of branches?
yes but it's not quite right for what my usecase was before
vestal jasper
lilac moon
absolutely trolled
prime coral
I really appreciate weekly streams
rare python
absolutely trolled
lol wat
lilac moon
thats what you get with 1000 dependencies
prime coral
Now open ij and index that
lilac moon
well its not java so idk if it c an
rare python
Now, did you compile a debug or a release build?
lilac moon
debug
prime coral
It can
lilac moon
cant imagine how long release would take if debug took 10 mins on i5-2310
lilac moon
true
discord idles at like 12% cpu for me
why does intellij support rust
see you in a couple years
quasi valley
<@259465250716254210> I really appreciate cookies.
🍪
rare python
Ya, the gist is really helpful
lilac moon
do you think tyhis will ever finish
i wonder how long indexing takes with rust-analyzer
prime coral
Hm, maybe in 5
lilac moon
rust-analyzer indexes wayyyyyyyyyyyyy faster
and i thought it was slow in comparison to other langs
wispy grail
does someone know a plugin that's good for preloading chunks so it doesn't get flooded when a lot of player join?
wispy grail
paper help is for paper plugin 😉 that's why i ask here thanks tho!
warm anchor
Paper help can be used for question like that
wispy grail
oh because of the channel header i thought i couldn't
coarse lily
Nah it's all things Paper related.
But nothing wrong with the occasional question here.
rare python
You should hide this channel from people who have joined within the last like 24 hours or something
Then people won't ask questions here as much
worthy geode
hide it behind a quiz like the legacy downloads