damn
#general
ashen cliff
So you already have the latest driver for the GPU.
golden gust
mfw USB dingle dangle
limber knotBOT
wow that looks like straight out of 2000
how tf are you able to run win10 on that? 👀
jovial plover
So you already have the latest driver for the GPU.
fuck
ashen cliff
No idea why it chose the oldest looking theme.
golden gust
windows 7 might offer better OGL support, maybe
limber knotBOT
or linux 👀
ashen cliff
Just install the Fabric mod and call it a day.
golden gust
I recall there being some breakage in the 10 drivers for many things as they where kinda rushed
but, yea, for vintage hardware linux is often the way to go lol
ashen cliff
The most modern looking theme: https://posili.me/i/E6AKMsL2-2022-06-27_17-29-02.png
And the best theme ever created: https://posili.me/i/75F2bGR3-2022-06-27_17-29-24.png
jovial plover
so im only able to use 1.12?
limber knotBOT
only if you don't either: a) install the mod that works around it or b) install a system that still has support (e.g. linux or possibly win7 although that's not adviced due to EOL)
kindred basin
Yea return the pc and buy like a 150 dollar used 6th gen optiplex
Freegeek Portland has a boatload of them on eBay
golden gust
He's in the UK to my understanding
golden gust
flood of stupidly cheap desktops ain't as big of a thing over here, can still score some good deals, but, like...
No
as we literally said
jovial plover
ok
golden gust
You'd need a new mobo if you wanted a CPU upgrade
jovial plover
mobo?
golden gust
motherboard
vernal moth
The most modern looking theme: https://posili.me/i/E6AKMsL2-2022-06-27_17-29-02....
at first that looked like phpmyadmin 
vernal moth
I just got home!
ashen cliff
at first that looked like phpmyadmin <:kekw:674093681963302933>
Ah yes, the metro theme.
vernal moth
I only saw a small preview
kindred basin
worthy geode
that seems decent
jovial plover
i legit brought a pc yesterday aaaaaaaaaa
also i dont think i can dowgrade bindows
worthy geode
you can reinstall it, but no, don't. Win7 is not a good idea
jovial plover
ok
worthy geode
but if you want something that is fun to use, save some money and buy an actually good computer
jovial plover
arew trghere any 3rd party drivers?
kindred basin
Drivers aren’t going to give you hardware support for new versions of OpenGL
kindred basin
Ah might be different then DX support then
worthy geode
I mean, there is a fabric mod to bypass the minecraft opengl limit.
But you probably can count the FPS you get on one hand
jovial plover
are there 3rd party drivers i can use
golden gust
DX is low level in the hardware
opengl iirc was more on the software side, so drivers can easily upgrade that
at least iirc
and, no, nobody is going to be tryna reverse the intel drivers for that mess
Seriously, use linux
or send that shitbox back
kindred basin
Send it back perferably
vestal jasper
Intel HD graphics. I've never been able to run anything and it be playable on those.
vestal jasper
I've been able to get 20 fps max, on absolute lowest settings, on a few games. A lot wouldn't even get 15.
golden gust
their linux kernel module is pretty much 10/10
but, it's an iGPU, designed for office browsing, etc
I have played MC on it years ago, it was tolerable
really you need a dedicated GPU these days if you're doing anything beyond YT/email
vestal jasper
I'm not confident the system in question is very capable of running any games released any time recently
kindred basin
I’ve only had intel graphics be decent on an i9 9900, but still not comparable to a good gpu
vestal jasper
OG doom or 2016/eternal
vestal jasper
Last I checked OG doom was released in the late 90s(?), Not any time soon
vagrant marlin
their windows drivers are fucking trash
amd and intel drivers on windows suck 🥱
vestal jasper
:^)
golden gust
Yea, that's fun
The vendor which actually has good drivers on windows fucking sucks on linux lol
vestal jasper
A sentient potato could run OG doom
golden gust
Hey, I never said that the bar was any higher than hell
ashen cliff
amd and intel drivers on windows suck 🥱
Don't really have problems with the AMD driver on Windows.
Except flickering when connecting 2x144Hz monitors.
vagrant marlin
id call that a problem if i were you
jovial plover
would i getr drivers from dell
ashen cliff
Still better than Nvidia nuking my laptop until I disable SLI...
I can't disable SLI.
ashen cliff
Yeah, also a mixed bag.
Have fun dealing with overscan.
ashen cliff
Invest in a 4k TV then.
vagrant marlin
i have a 4k tv
i dont output to it in 4k though, thats stupid
everything is so small
ashen cliff
Scaling exists...
tropic flame
MS updates even downgrade your drivers if you install a newer one by yourself
vagrant marlin
id rather run it at 1440p, uses less resources and cant really notice anything from the distance i watch it from
tropic flame
I had to block it from providing driver updates through the group policy settings
void void
MS updates have broken my setup so many times
rare python
Meanwhile in Arch Linux... package manager go brrrrrr
tropic flame
I had installed AMD Adrenalin (the new version of AMD Radeon Software) and it was constantly installing AMD Radeon Software side by side and removing Adrenalin
unkempt escarp
vagrant marlin
ok
crystal lilyBOT
Please send large files/logs to a pastebin
golden gust
and use #paper-help
ashen cliff
id rather run it at 1440p, uses less resources and cant really notice anything f...
1440p... on 4k...
You can't even perfectly scale that.
vagrant marlin
1440p... on 4k...
You can't even perfectly scale that.
as if i care? it works
ashen cliff
Might want to get your vision checked, just in case.
ashen cliff
Happens to the best of us.
jovial plover
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
vagrant marlin
yes
jovial plover
1.16 WORKS
vagrant marlin
ok
ashen cliff
How well?
visual egret
delayed till wednesday, our minigame was compiled for j17 and we only had j8 installed where we were running it, only got like 3 people on it lmfao
potent wedge
You guys are joking but 10 FPS in VR is playable for me
unkempt jackal
no way that 10 fps in VR is playable for you
rare python
That sounds like a good way to create motion sickness.
potent wedge
That sounds like a good way to create motion sickness.
No my VR legs are steel
potent wedge
no way that 10 fps in VR is playable for you
Grow up with a computer that plays a 2D game at 5 fps and come back
10 FPS feels heavenly when you grow up like that
potent wedge
I can't even handle vr at 60 fps
Bro what
That's more unbelievable than how hot your mother is
unkempt jackal
I mean, there's a good reason why most headsets are 90 hz
potent wedge
90 ivw only played at a fps that high on the vulkan cube demo
unkempt jackal
I usually sacrifice resolution as much as I need to get a steady 90
vestal jasper
I grew up with one that did 15 fps and I can confidently say I wouldn't last in 10fps vr.
If anything it's made me avoid low framerates even harder
fallen grotto
low framerates are alright sometimes
that's why i bought a laptop with a rtx3070
because they are never alright
visual egret
heh
imagine complaining about vr performance
play half life alyx on a GTX 1060 with 3GB VRAM then complain
i have no idea how i got that game to work on this potato
thanks source
ashen cliff
that's why i bought a laptop with a rtx3070
Which power level?
Since there are like a million combinations.
worthy geode
I have a laptop with one of nvidia mx cards, they are surprisingly decent. not for VR of course, but most games run pretty well
fallen grotto
Which power level?
Since there are like a million combinations. <:kekwhyper:674...
135W tdp if I'm not mistaken
not like hp omen
ashen cliff
There was a MX 520 laptop, with the GPU directly connected to the display that was epic.
Set a custom resolution, 144Hz on a laptop from 2011.
fallen grotto
i'm happy enough i can toggle optimus
fallen grotto
yes that
so my dgpu doesn't have to go through my igpu something something on a non external monitor
worthy geode
DungeonsXL
Shameless self ad
brave mountain
*more active development
worthy geode
but it works 😦
worthy geode
yeah works fine with 1.19
But then I misunderstood your concept of a "dungeon" I suppose
worthy geode
instanced temporary worlds to be exact
But "dungeon" in minecraft might mean those weird underground rooms
warm anchor
Yeah if I’d do a dungeon, that’s what I will go with
brave mountain
I'll give it a try, since there in no competence
sacred veldt
good dungeon plugin?
Theres new MythicDungeons
https://mythiccraft.io/index.php?resources/mythic-dungeons.869/
brave mountain
Don't trust in no known paid plugins
sacred veldt
It has free version tho
visual egret
you could ask them for source code since its based off bukkit and that's licenced under GPL
they're distributing binaries
unkempt jackal
and with source code couldn't you build it yourself easily?
visual egret
yup
worthy geode
I "like" how they have a DXL converter lol
its basically the same, but paid & uses holograms instead of signs
shell coral
hey guys
does anyone want to do 2 lines for me for a voice role?
worthy geode
time to add holograms to DXL
ashen cliff
you could ask them for source code since its based off bukkit and that's licence...
Daily reminder to require a non public library.
worthy geode
their library is one of the few open source things tho
ashen cliff
I'm talking in general.
There is plenty of opensource minigames plugins that do that.
worthy geode
well, if its using the bukkit API it should fall under the same rule I suppose
void void
they're distributing binaries
only if you purchase said binary can you request source
or well, you can always request it
but according to the GPL it should be provided if you provide someone with binaries :P
daring laurel
you could ask them for source code since its based off bukkit and that's licence...
lol they wont do that
worthy geode
you could threaten legal action
visual egret
still a binary
worthy geode
yeah, but chance is high that they just ignore you if you ask for source code
cobalt aurora
lusty lily
its basically the same, but paid & uses holograms instead of signs
Ehh, I was a big DXL user and still love your stuff - you even helped me yourself to solve that awful crashing bug with purpur and nether biomes if you remember. But this new plugin does have a hell of a lot more features and control
worthy geode
It looks like it has less features unless im missing something
DXL is just way too complicated to use
lusty lily
Probably badly documented then, ive been using it for a while now and the control vs DXL is immense
Its more with DXL you had to do some jank to get places
Cus yeah
worthy geode
(Im looking at the code)
lusty lily
Complicated
lusty lily
(Im looking at the code)
marcato finna smite you thats agianst his tos how dare you!!!!!!!!
worthy geode
I didn't agree to anything
lusty lily
But in all seriousness, both plugins are great - used dxl for like three years. But this new one just seems to have more stuff and is a hell of a lot more user friendly
worthy geode
and a lot of the code structure is 95% like DXL, so come at me 👀
lusty lily
worthy geode
But in all seriousness, both plugins are great - used dxl for like three years. ...
Yeah, DXL really is a bit convoluted. that happens when you publish a plugin that was just internally used for years and has existed since 2012
sadly Sataniel doesn't really have the time right now, and I also don't (and I disagree with some of his decisions on it, so I really don't want to )
visual egret
what is DXL
lusty lily
From what I know MythicDungeons was made for the devs private server too, then he showcased it to the mythiccraft lot and they liked what they saw and brought him on
worthy geode
yeah, its even in the playavalon package still
brave mountain
Daily reminder to require a non public library.
Indeed
What I don't trust is the quality and usability
worthy geode
the Mythic plugins are usually alright. not performant, and some very annoying long-standing bugs, but they are kinda okay
tropic flame
"NTFS compression sucks"
objection, your honor, bullshit
tropic flame
https://posili.me/i/q2NsWSBf-2022-06-27_21-56-24.png
based
when you've got a powerful enough CPU, a few cycles can be perfectly spent with NTFS compression imo
for the storage you end up getting, I think it's worth it
ashen cliff
Would have better numbers, but I moved my video collection.
The main problem is that it's single threaded... still.
worthy geode
Just tried turning it on for my old disk, "12 hours remaining"
nvm then
tropic flame
oh I just compress particular folders
mainly my game own's folders... and my anime folder
ashen cliff
So bro. You have a new PC or what?
ashen cliff
You didn't answer last time bro!
tropic flame
2 sticks
ashen cliff
Very good.
unkempt jackal
that's a great system
ashen cliff
2 M.2 slots as well, very nice.
visual egret
this system >>>
ashen cliff
I can't be trusted with Intel mobile CPUs from 2nd gen to 4th gen.
visual egret
ddr2
tropic flame
I'm yet to install Debian on my dinosaur
since it technically still has one thing I can use, which is the DVD-RW drive
visual egret
that run has run elementary (the best), manjaro (for disk encryption, xfce is shit though), and now windows 11
windows 11 performs horribly
ashen cliff
I have a better "new" one.
Mac mini G4.
tropic flame
that's still a PowerPC mac, isn't it?
ashen cliff
Actually, after cleaning it, quite happy about the temps.
kindred basin
Overclocked it even.
why not upgrade a mac pro 2009/8/10 all the way
ashen cliff
Don't have one.
visual egret
Actually, after cleaning it, quite happy about the temps.
does this mean below melting points of solder
kindred basin
Don't have one.
makes sense lol
they go pretty cheap on ebay these days; im always tempted to pick one up for the fun of it. a ton of ddr2 and the best xeons are dirt cheap
ashen cliff
And very slow.
I modded some of those cases, since I had CNC and laser/plasma access.
kindred basin
maybe im just a sucker for the cheese grater design
tropic flame
while i was moving stuff to my new computer, I had to somehow figure out this OpenVPN password I had saved but I didn't remember the details anymore nor did I have the sheet of paper with then
turns out OpenVPN saves the username and password on the registry... together with the entropy that's used to encrypt them
so you can just figure it out with a powershell script
ashen cliff
drowsy urchin
How come when timings is on it slows down starting the server and just in general on FreeBSD lol?
worthy geode
because freebsd. It has a very slow system call to get the time, and timings does this a lot iirc
just disable timings and use Spark instead
drowsy urchin
I wonder why that hasn't been fixed on FreeBSD it's been a while
worthy geode
timings performance is an issue on other OS as well, its just a lot worse on freebsd
unkempt jackal
spark profiler my beloved
haughty bear
is there any discord for getting programming help on physics simulations? I'm trying to write car physics but can't figure some stuff out
lilac moon
that was me about 4 months ago
haughty bear
physics is very hard
when you start seeing ω θ σ you know you're getting into some shit
lilac moon
Yeah
spare venture
use your schools resources
i remember having to make a heat transfer model to find out how long a beer would take to get too warm to drink after being left in room temperature
merry talon
silver nexus
That was a bad joke
ripe sphinx
general IJ question, any way to nuke caches just from the welcome window, no actual project open? For some reason my IJ is hanging while opening any projects, and I can't find how to nuke the caches
ripe sphinx
Yup I know how to normally invalidate if I have a project open. But I can't get a project open, it hangs while it's opening. I can only get to this https://f.u11.io/7Fbu9t
kindred basin
is there a file menu anywhere (top bar, etc), for me there is one which has invalidate caches on that page (i haven't used windows for ages so im not sure)
anything from the three dots in the bottom left? might be hidden somewhere else on windows
ripe sphinx
3 dots: https://f.u11.io/G7mSVC
(no neither of those edits are helpful)
actually first for shits and giggles I found a "disable all downloaded plugins" button, lemme try to load something without plugins and see how that goes
mild rune
Otherwise you might be able to nuke the caches folder in %localappdata%\JetBrains\IntelliJIdea2022.1
ripe sphinx
might just have to reinstall and hope all my settings were backed up when I last used it :/
oh well disabling plugins got me a bit further before the hang, it got me into the project actually kind of open. Nothing works though so I can't file -> nuke https://f.u11.io/gxJAeF
guess I'll just reinstall
kindred basin
if you can get there try to file -> invalidate
ripe sphinx
wait wtf hitting alt+f4 made it go further
https://f.u11.io/y4AYlf notably there's an 'error loading project" balloon...with a "details" button I can't click :/
mild rune
your shit sounds fucked af
kindred basin
dang
ripe sphinx
I don't do anything stupid though, like the most complex thing I'm doing is opening paper in WSL
mild rune
jetbrains ides just act weird sometimes
ripe sphinx
oh bloody hell the error was just because I disabled the MC Dev plugin, that's not the actual cause
yeah time to nuke I guess :/
at least I can see the little cloud that confirms all my stuff was synced
kindred basin
you may be able to grab your config files
mossy vessel
new EAP?
ripe sphinx
Nope stable 2022.1.3
(although had the same problem with .2, update didn't do anything about it)
mossy vessel
oic, cuz tip of the day
ripe sphinx
welp cya in 15 minutes once IJ redownloads
lilac moon
discord wont use gpu acceleration on this pc for some reason
so every time i hover over the server list my cpu fan revs up
nvm i was using the wrong .desktop file this entire time so it didnt have the gpu acceleration flags
twin lagoon
daring laurel
ty
summer rivet
Will it be against EULA to undermine the new report chat system? like with plugin
ripe sphinx
I find it quite likely they'll do so
summer rivet
what can they do if servers break EULA
ripe sphinx
They've got a server blacklist, if you get blacklisted no one can connect to the blacklisted IP
summer rivet
ips can change
and
what if on the ip are more servers running :D
like a lot hosters dont give u dedicated ip
only a port
ripe sphinx
Well it's by domain name if you have one...if it's a shared IP, well that sucks I guess
summer rivet
so its likely a bad idea to update to 1.19?
i am almost finished but this thing makes me wonder
worthy geode
its not that bad
they removed the dumb report reasons, its just really bad stuff now
kindred basin
I’m just ready to hear people get banned claim someone stole their private key and they would never say something like that
Anyway feel like I’ve read this topic 500 times
worthy geode
lots of misinformation around it as well, really annoying
kindred basin
I wish they would have thought it through and not included the profanity and the few others they removed .. most of peoples ideas are based on that initial announcement and have no idea they changed it
fallen grotto
they probably had to bring out something and were unsure about what they should put on it
but yeah people have severe cases of selective reading
jagged egret
someone should make a USB gpio board
nvm amazon search is just bad
in other news, I don't really understand raspberry pis anymore. Just get a thin client PC on ebay and a USB GPIO module if you need gpio. Cheaper and runs faster
I guess the power differences is a fair point though
summer rivet
they removed the dumb report reasons, its just really bad stuff now
i disageee
vagrant marlin
ok, you disageee.
spare venture
why has it been super challenging to find mojang blog posts for a decade now
vagrant marlin
its annoying
spare venture
i was going to quote the ban reasons but i can’t even find it. anyway, iirc they are terrorism, pedophilia, doxxing/harassment, illegal acts, etc. seems like pretty bad stuff to me lol
warm anchor
I have it ready because this topic has been gone over like 69 times so far
spare venture
ty eternity
vagrant marlin
I have it ready because this topic has been gone over like 69 times so far
more like over 42069 times
unkempt jackal
More like 25565 times
lilac moon
25566 now
drowsy urchin
Why is timings still included in Paper when everyone just recommends Spark ⚡️
past cloud
I mean PurPur has it built in now
spiral robin
Nope
warm anchor
I mean Canada Day is coming (?)
gentle star
what can they do if servers break EULA
Mojang and Eula for servers... pffff
lament patio
Why is timings still included in Paper when everyone just recommends Spark ⚡️
I feel like all the context around timings makes it easier to diagnose simple issues and lag dependent on variables like entity counts, etc cuz of the historical data
wraith trail
stonewall riots maybe?
warm anchor
all I know is today is Monday 
wraith trail
and yeah, that is the primary reason if any. historical data
but it is 100% dying (or really, already dead) and will not exist in paper forever
lament patio
Though don't get me wrong, spark is amazing
spiral robin
I mean Canada Day is coming (?)
FOUR DAY WORK WEEK LETS GO
warm anchor
FOUR DAY WORK WEEK LETS GO
|| that's me everyday for years || flex
spiral robin
You have a job ? 
mild rune
warm anchor
spiral robin
Thought you just chatted on discord all day
primal solar
all I know is today is Monday <:dedrie:784411967175655434>
But it is Tuesday 
warm anchor
yes professional discord shtposter
spiral robin
Well I guess you can chat all day and still work but you can’t be that productive 
mild rune
who needs productivity
warm anchor
I am lucky enough to be at a point in life that I dont have to put in a lot of effort anymore 
spiral robin
novel horizon
Are you able to recovery or get sql data from ibd files? 🤔 My friend somehow broke his mysql instance, idk how, but.. Well, I told him to at least backup it now, he doesn't have any SQL files backed up or dumps or anything, lol..
I got /var/lib/mysql, basically, is it possible? Or no? Or close to 0%? ^^
spiral robin
Yeah I’ve done that before and restored from ibd
Just google and look on stackoverflow
novel horizon
I was looking around, but found not much info
spiral robin
It’s there
warm anchor
But it is Tuesday <:zoidberg:563523453617963008>
hello people from future
how is it there?
primal solar
Your future is dark
warm anchor
primal solar
Like literally, its night time for a couple more hours 😂
warm anchor
warm anchor
wow!
warm anchor
dang weeb <:Madge:894938445074550844>
|| 
||
primal solar
I am looking at a random plugin's code and the author has imported pretty much every list in one of the classes
novel horizon
Hmm, I found a ton of stackoverflow things from both frm and ibd files and so, so much things. Funny tho, how they don't at least make a backup weekly, or even monthly. Well...
primal solar
Living on the edge
knotty iris
how do i start forge server in ubuntu, there is no jar file
novel horizon
well.. i guess you need to download jar file?
mild rune
oh it's 1.17+ isn't it
novel horizon
can anyone give me a tip how to restore a mysql database from just ibd files? 🤔
novel horizon
oh it's 1.17+ isn't it
there's forge 1.17+? ew
ripe sphinx
Looks like they're providing a run.bat / run.sh file, try that first, forge might be doing something interesting. If windows use .bat, otherwise .sh
mild rune
They use an args file buried in the libraries folder
Although I believe user_jvm_args launches that file too
knotty iris
Looks like they're providing a `run.bat` / `run.sh` file, try that first, forge ...
whats the command for that in ubuntu?
mild rune
./run.sh
novel horizon
I looked for a lot of things and still can't find much info about it, lots of weird things, I have /var/lib/mysql, but.. 🤷♂️ oof
mild rune
might need to chmod +x run.sh first
Otherwise I believe you can just do:
java -Xms4G -Xmx4G @user_jvm_args.txt
knotty iris
ah alright my server started
how do i put aikar's flags in?
assuming that you are using flags.sh command generator
mild rune
Throw them into the user_jvm_args.txt file with each arg getting its own line and launch it through that
knotty iris
is it possible to use this? https://flags.sh/
warm anchor
probably not. Just copy what it generate and do what mja said.
mild rune
java -Xms24G -Xmx24G -Dterminal.jline=false -Dterminal.ansi=true -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:G1NewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=50 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=16M -XX:G1ReservePercent=15 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=20 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true @unix_args.txt
Is my full startup and that's copying the unix_args.txt file out of libraries/net/minecraftforge/forge/[version]/
I may have that path wrong
Forge dropping the jar was the most annoying thing ever
knotty iris
```
java -Xms24G -Xmx24G -Dterminal.jline=false -Dterminal.ansi=true -XX:+UseG1G...
i have to put each arg into its own line right?
mild rune
Yeah at least according to the text in the file
then just run the run.sh like before and it should pick up those args
If it still doesn't work then just put them all on one line
they may have changed something since the wrote it
knotty iris
is there a command generator for this or anything lol
knotty iris
If it still doesn't work then just put them all on one line <:kekw:6740936819633...
putting it in all 1 line seemed to work, ty
novel horizon
Still haven't found something to restore the database from just ibd files 
I'm trying to find a workaround, but no luck still
Maybe I got something 🤔
latent sable
is there perhaps a permission to allow non op users to get operated console broadcasts in their chat
potent wedge
unkempt jackal
novel horizon
ornate sun
spare venture
the top liked reason for signing is the n word. lovely.
lilac moon
https://saveminecraft.com
502 bad gateway
true canyon
Today in plugin support, somebody who ... appears to have downloaded a plugin jar from 3 years and 30 releases ago. They have then edited the plugin.yml to match the latest version, and are trying to get support.
lilac moon
502 bad gateway
Nvm its fine now
primal solar
Today in plugin support, somebody who ... appears to have downloaded a plugin ja...
Ahh yes, so toxic not to provide them support for a version older than time itself :troll:
ashen cliff
Today in plugin support, somebody who ... appears to have downloaded a plugin ja...
So, AuthMe daily?
haughty bear
is there any discord for getting programming help on physics simulations? I'm trying to write car physics but can't figure some stuff out
(and my school resources don't even cover stuff like angular velocity)
haughty bear
<@178476954280787969>
I just gave angular velocity as an example of stuff I'm struggling to understand, I have bigger issues with like slip angles and ratios, traction, and weight transfer
slip ratio, and how it affects lateral and longitudinal force, completely eludes me
charred sleet
ok yeah you defo need a degree level physicist, you can try
https://discord.gg/homework
and just get general phyiscs help?
haughty bear
not sure if car steering physics counts as homework exactly, but I'll try it thanks
primal solar
what about angular velocity
Regret saying this now lol
haughty bear
yeahh this place looks more for actual homework, so I don't know if I'm gonna find a right channel here
charred sleet
fair enough, but yeah im not good enough at physics for most of that
lavish path
btw im curious uhh is there a paper version on singleplayer worlds?
golden gust
no
lavish path
ohh sad
coarse venture
singleplayer is basically running an instance locally you connect to.
You can run paper locally and then connect your client to it, and just be the only one playing on it.
you can turn on whitelist, so others can't join.
pale hinge
hi, how can i teleport players to a specific location every time they join the server?
pale hinge
so there is no gamerule or something like that for it, right
warm anchor
There is setworldspawn but that only applies to player with no bed/ankor iirc
hexed dragon
Hello
pale hinge
i need it for my lobby. they dont have beds but they still spawn at where they left the game
hexed dragon
I'm ready for it to come out today.
crystal lilyBOT
warm anchor
Also #paper-help @devout sail
brave mountain
Why is a pita connect intelij to SQL server?
vernal moth
It's not?
brave mountain
do I need a plugin?
void void
disgusting software
silver nexus
Helpful feedback
vernal moth
do I need a plugin?
The datagrip plugin is reinstalled in intellij ultimate
languid elbow
deadchat
brave mountain
ok
primal solar
btw im curious uhh is there a paper version on singleplayer worlds?
How will that work
warm anchor
If you want a chat channel that never stops with pointless spams, I suggest Minecraft official discord… it’s never dead chat there…
potent wedge
Risk general 
brave mountain
api went down for a bit
vernal moth
If you want a chat channel that never stops with pointless spams, I suggest Mine...
I disagree, it's always dead there
Brain dead in particular
violet flower
wtf is "signed chat messages" thing
smoky cloud
Nothing that 99% of sensible players need to be concerned about
cosmic musk
is there alternative for coreprotect? or config options recommended for less storage
coreprotect goes like 200GB on my server
violet flower
Nothing that 99% of sensible players need to be concerned about
why i shouldn't be
like why server is signing my messages
and sending it to microsoft
void void
they are only sent to microsoft when someone reports them
and they're signed by the players (so they can verify a message is real)
warm anchor
Brain dead in particular
That was the point
smoky cloud
Omg chat singing topic is back
And you're surprised?
warm anchor
violet flower
it'll be worse in new versions imo
vernal moth
like why server is signing my messages
The client is signing messages so that the server can verify that they were really sent by you
That's just normal cryptography, it's also how everybody should send emails for example
smoky cloud
it'll be worse in new versions imo
[citation needed]
violet flower
sending email and chatting in a mc server aren't equal things
vernal moth
They are both form of communication over an insecure medium (the internet) and thus need additional things to verify integrity
warm anchor
I have a feeling that you do not understand the purpose of chat signing
violet flower
They are both form of communication over an insecure medium (the internet) and t...
i don't think so
because i'm not playing on realms
vernal moth
Cryptography is not easy, you don't need to understand this, it's ok
Nothing is changing to end users
void void
why would it matter that you're not playing on realms?
warm anchor
I am even more confused now
void void
and you're using mojangs auth services
vernal moth
In fact, in 1.19 the client is already signing all messages and nobody cares
warm anchor
it's my server
It’s Mojang’s game and asset. You agree to the end user agreement when you create account and created server
void void
well then you don't need to worry about getting reported or signing lol
vernal moth
Signing doesn't violate your privacy, lol
warm anchor
offline mode
This is piracy and is prohibited here
violet flower
Signing doesn't violate your privacy, lol
i think it does
warm anchor
And pretty much everywhere
smoky cloud
i think it does
It really doesn't
void void
signing is just saying, "I actually sent this and can prove it"
warm anchor
Which is an essential part of making an actual working report system work
violet flower
we don't need mojang's report system
all servers have admins or moderators
their own rules
bs
warm anchor
vernal moth
Signing is different from reporting
I suggest you educate yourself before trying to discuss this topic further
limber knotBOT
god, how does the game manage to be so inefficient even on modern hardware? I'm getting insane lag spikes when turning the camera on Vanilla 1.19 xD
warm anchor
Try increase your chunk render to anything above 16 and see the client shit itself pheonix
violet flower
I suggest you educate yourself before trying to discuss this topic further
you're just legitimating it
smoky cloud
Have you installed the entire periodic table?
limber knotBOT
no issue having it on 32 but that's a server so...
smoky cloud
you're just legitimating it
No, you're talking out of your ass
violet flower
there wasn't a report system or "message signing thing" for years
limber knotBOT
these spikes are insane lol: https://i.moep.tv/g623aQKT.png
smoky cloud
There was, actually, it's just built-in to the client now
warm anchor
You need higher vertical resolution to see that spike
smoky cloud
And now messages are signed so someone can't falsify evidence
violet flower
There was, actually, it's just built-in to the client now
i don't think so
where it was?
limber knotBOT
they had a website somewhere afaik
warm anchor
That’s correct
limber knotBOT
how do you know that it was if you didn't know it existed until just now? 
warm anchor
I think you should stop your baseless claim @violet flower and listen to mini diggers suggestion before making a fool of yourself
limber knotBOT
also how does it make a difference if the report was anonymous or not? lol
void void
Anonymous for the reporter?
violet flower
I think you should stop your baseless claim <@615621410492121116> and listen to ...
do you think i care about paper discord
or what you say
fast scarab
👋
violet flower
i'm just saying my thoughts
smoky cloud
do you think i care about paper discord
Well, you're here right now...
violet flower
that's it
limber knotBOT
this isn't twitter
violet flower
this is general channel of a discord server
limber knotBOT
no, it's the general channel of the paper discord server
fast scarab
you can voice your opinion on the forums post
limber knotBOT
apparently you care enough to join
violet flower
no, it's the general channel of the _paper_ discord server
i don't see a rule that says i cant speak or say my thoughts
limber knotBOT
nobody said so?
violet flower
in general channel of *paper * discord server
warm anchor
Spreading outright false information can get you kicked @violet flower
violet flower
it's not false information
mojang is signing messages
and i think that's not right
limber knotBOT
"<weeeeeeey> there wasn't a report system"
"<weeeeeeey> it was anonymous and it's not now"
warm anchor
Yes and it has nothing to do with your following statement above
smoky cloud
Signing messages != Your messages are sent to Mojang
limber knotBOT
your messages are here for everyone to read lmao
violet flower
"<weeeeeeey> there wasn't a report system"
should i add iirc to every messages
or afaik
like
warm anchor
If you want to make an argument, it’s crucial you actually understand the topic
limber knotBOT
you should research topics before making bold claims or forming opinions
smoky cloud
Stop making baseless claims about them then?
violet flower
it's not baseless
limber knotBOT
then don't say stuff like you do know everything
violet flower
well just
go and sign your messages then
i'm not going to argue with you all
lol
warm anchor
Ok bye
smoky cloud
And nothing of value was lost
kindred basin
🤦♂️
warm anchor
@smoky cloud now copy this message above x100 and you can picture what official Minecraft discord has been like for the past week
smoky cloud
Wait until they realise message signing doesn't even work on Spigot/Paper
limber knotBOT
signing minecraft chat messages? ❌ real champs sign their github commits! 
warm anchor
Wait until they realise message signing doesn't even work on Spigot/Paper
Shhh he would know if he actually search
limber knotBOT
should hit the next guy with "well that's fine and all but Paper doesn't sign message so why are you complaining here?" 👀
violet flower
Wait until they realise message signing doesn't even work on Spigot/Paper
if it doesn't then what is this
[Async Chat Thread - #3/WARN]: Zuhaz sent message with invalid signature: 'hello'
A plugin changed a signed chat message. The server may not accept it.
warm anchor
That’s a dangerous statement to make because afaik paper is just waiting for spigot for their implementation pheonix so if it does get fixed later, you dotn want the crazy to come back
limber knotBOT
you can't stop the crazy either way
violet flower
and they are not adding a option to disable it
warm anchor
Yes a plugin can handle it again if you read the issue on the commit
fast scarab
if you read through the github issue you'd also know ^
warm anchor
Lol
violet flower
Yes a plugin can handle it again if you read the issue on the commit
yes
spare venture
991341078118662144 uh oh i grabbed the ID of your message!
violet flower
warm anchor
Ok
fast scarab
but then why are you complaining 
kindred basin
but then why are you complaining <:crydeath:654368344723685397>
Because he’s being oppressed by the big man Microsoft!
warm anchor
991341078118662144 uh oh i grabbed the ID of your message!
Party this is a violation to my privacy I will now report you to relevant authority
Oh wait
Also hi @spare venture you are up early today
violet flower
but then why are you complaining <:crydeath:654368344723685397>
as i said before you're just legitimating it
like it's a very very normal thing
smoky cloud
Most multiplayer games have player reporting systems, so it's pretty normal
fast scarab
it literally is tho 👀
waxen panther
SAME CONVERSATION EVERY TEN MINUTES SHUT UP
brave mountain
Hi unique human
waxen panther
🤵♂️
warm anchor
Very unique human
brave mountain
I'm unique too
violet flower
Most multiplayer games have player reporting systems, so it's pretty normal
minecraft isn't like another multiplayer game
warm anchor
I'm unique too
You do not have unique in your name
brave mountain
Your avatar is very interesting
full rune
well it's still mojang's game, so they write the rules
smoky cloud
You're using Mojang's auth servers
brave mountain
That's what makes me unique isn't it?
fast scarab
you are using mojang servers tp connect xD
violet flower
no i'm not
frank otter
we're not using mojang's server to connect
do you know what online mode foes
violet flower
as i said before
frank otter
*does
warm anchor
!kick @violet flower piracy using supported here
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Kicked weeeeeeey#4017 (piracy using supported here) [1 total infraction] -- EterNity#0001.
warm anchor
He admit it so
smoky cloud
It's not like it's literally irrelevant if you're using offline mode anyway
frank otter
wonder if they'll be back
smoky cloud
I hope not
warm anchor
It's not like it's literally irrelevant if you're using offline mode anyway
He claimed to be using it earlier. I was gonna see if he will change topic and not push further but I was very wrong
smoky cloud
baited
violet flower
He admit it so
you are racist!
violet flower
well
smoky cloud
well
violet flower
i'm not going to spend my money on microsoft things
don't get me wrong i'm not supporting piracy
😄
smoky cloud
And yet you're running an offline mode server
violet flower
not at the moment
warm anchor
So you are hosting a server that you yourself cannot join. That’s pretty cool
violet flower
Not supporting piracy = racism
i just said i don't use mojang's server and he/she banned me
smoky cloud
i just said i don't use mojang's server and he/she banned me
That isn't racism
violet flower
i'm not running any kind of minecraft server atm
smoky cloud
warm anchor
I am struggling to understand how chat singing is an issue then. If 1. You don’t spend money on Microsoft which means you don’t have an account and 2. You ain’t running a server.
Anyway this topic is boring now. Can we talk about the weather today??
random urchin
its stuffy, i want rain. pliz
full rune
too hot in central europe
smoky cloud
Anyway this topic is boring now. Can we talk about the weather today?? <:phossur...
Do you accept METARs
violet flower
I am struggling to understand how chat singing is an issue then. If 1. You don’t...
should it be my issue at the exact moment
warm anchor
Was 95 degree yesterday and 58 today
random urchin
its not even heat, its freaking humidity
violet flower
i was just saying my thoughts on new things
random urchin
58F is acceptable
violet flower
you are just bullying me
smoky cloud
No, you're talking out of your ass
warm anchor
65-70 ish is perfect zone to me 
violet flower
No, you're talking out of your ass
ok whatever
random urchin
I'm fine with like 40C, that's like 100 something F ? 🤔
random urchin
Eternity is a plebian using Freedom Units 
warm anchor
Real American 
random urchin
🤮
fast scarab
40C ?!
warm anchor
Do you also want to know about miles
fast scarab
mental
random urchin
Ye, 40C is fine, couple it with ~45-55% Humidity and its 
frank otter
Anyway this topic is boring now. Can we talk about the weather today?? <:phossur...
I wish the weather here would make its mind up
warm anchor
I will literally melt if it’s 40C
random urchin
People don't realise how much humidity actually affects your "heat" 
smoky cloud
Do you also want to know about *miles*
Imagine living in a country that uses celcius, litres, miles, and pints
spare venture
i am fine with 70 degrees, sun, and no humidity
frank otter
it's been overcast for a while now and I want it to either rain or be sun, but not inbetween
smoky cloud
Fuel is measured in litres, fuel economy is measured in gallons
spare venture
it rained here for like 200 days straight, i’d rather have overcast
random urchin
Give rain 
frank otter
if I could send you my clouds I would
random urchin
Blow on them and they might move 
frank otter
does anyone actually know how big clouds are
smoky cloud
Fly into one
random urchin
Smoll, or giant and everything inbetween
frank otter
like I look into the sky and they could be the size of my house or my city
warm anchor
I heard bird lives in them I may be wrong
frank otter
I can't judge their sizes with my bad eyes
ashen cliff
AWSs is huge
And down most of the time.
golden gust
Well, hey
smoky cloud
And down most of the time. <:kekwhyper:674093681904713729>
Can't be worse than Oracle Cloud
warm anchor
And down most of the time. <:kekwhyper:674093681904713729>
You are confusing it with oracle clouds
Lmao
golden gust
Theres always the day that OVH decided to upload terabytes to the cloud within the space of a few minutes
warm anchor
Must be hot
ashen cliff
Well, they did turn some of the data into smoke.
golden gust
oh god, I remember when BHS was new
They had 2 connections, 1 being the main one, an the other being some dainty little connection used for backup
and some fucker
decided to drive their car, into a fibre post
warm anchor
ashen cliff
There is your issue bro.
Fiber should be underground.
smoky cloud
Oracle Cloud had a Canada datacenter that lost power and they didn't notice because the monitoring was in the datacenter that lost power
golden gust
north america
putting shit underground where it belongs
Only place I know which does that is NYC
and over there you gotta watch out for manhole covers flying like fucking frisbees
austere sleet
Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this problem?
void void
Oracle Cloud had a Canada datacenter that lost power and they didn't notice beca...
reminds me of facebook hosting their status page on the same infra
erm, meta
golden gust
hosting
status page
primary auth system used to get into the bloody building
You know, all things you can live without
fallen grotto
Imagine living in a country that uses celcius, litres, miles, and pints
Imagine living in a country that uses bagged milk
smoky cloud
I think we do
fallen grotto
upbeat falconBOT
warm anchor
unkempt jackal
sus
golden gust
glass is energy intensive af to recycle
unkempt jackal
the thought of pouring milk from a bag is unsettling
golden gust
Like, most "recycling" of glass iirc is basically crushing it down and sent to landfill/aggregate use
fallen grotto
Yeah but you can put a cap on it
golden gust
with the bags you get a jug
fallen grotto
And not a clothespin or something
what
I heard some people literally just leave it open
Like just fold it a little bit
unkempt jackal
what
golden gust
Well, we use plastic bottles over here, I used to get milk deliveries but, I don't often actually go through enough milk to even use such a service these days
fallen grotto
That person did play Hypixel skyblock
unkempt jackal
you can't trust someone that plays Hypixel Skyblock
fallen grotto
pretty sure we use either plastic bottles or carton with aluminum in the inside
depends on the brand
warm anchor
Anyone remember glass milk deliver to your door?
fallen grotto
But then also glass bottles from some sources, mostly local farmers
warm anchor
They basically reuse them instead of recycling them in the ancient times
fallen grotto
Bring em back and get a few cents
Best marketing of reusing
I don't think they do that anymore
warm anchor
I think reuse is a better method but idk how the general public will think of them now everyone is used to those one-time only container
spiral robin
Anyone remember glass milk deliver to your door?
🧓
warm anchor
tropic flame
glass is energy intensive af to recycle
we sell them on cardboard packages here, no need for glass
spiral robin
@viral hornet hello? Epic?
viral hornet
<@171898972330262538> hello? Epic?
hallo
quiet mesa
First month in a job and make a "UPDATE" in wrong database with same tables nice 😄
smoky cloud
At least you didn't delete a live customer
void void
is there no paper config file for 1.19
crystal lilyBOT
Where did paper.yml go?
In 1.19, paper.yml has been split into two files, both in the config directory. In paper-global.yml you will find configuration that changes behavior of the whole server, and in paper-world-defaults you will find configuration that can be overridden on a per world basis. See https://docs.papermc.io/paper/per-world-configuration for more information on overrides. The function of server.properties, bukkit.yml, and spigot.yml remains unchanged for this time.
void void
Oh thank you
visual egret
I could never
ashen cliff
Daily reminder to never to that, so you save on memory.
quiet mesa
At least you didn't delete a live customer
yeah.. i think.. now im try to fix the ticket system with all the bad assigned tickets based in the bad update 😢
foggy silo
I love Bobby tables! 😄
quiet mesa
START TRANSACTION;
yeah but i make the update the friday and notice today the error in the target database xd
well "notice" the people how use the system report the issue
foggy silo
I specialize in making queries that deadlock the database
quiet mesa
I specialize in making queries that deadlock the database
when use coreprotect i make this because the delete old data never works xd
foggy silo
lol
quiet mesa
You don’t just delete the file itself?
one time... yes xd
golden gust
delet eternity!
warm anchor
tropic flame
yeah but i make the update the friday and notice today the error in the target d...
there seems to be something against people pushing into production on a Friday I'm not quite well versed on
quiet mesa
It sometime do be the fastest way
yeah until need restart the DB because forget how works a DB xd
void void
are we getting a knenwald stream today?
quasi valley
assuming md is awake, maybe 
hexed dragon
yes
worn ember
kneny x md stream? 
hexed dragon
You spelt Kenny wrong.
worn ember
You spelt Kenny wrong.
you spelled deez wrong
hexed dragon
I was going to say that
warm anchor
kneny is correct spelling in my book
hexed dragon
kneny is correct spelling in my book
Send the book over.
warm anchor
worn ember
its accepted as correct by the english dictionary
warm anchor
@hexed dragon fun fact kneny went through my optimization guide and make over 300 corrections
worn ember
what a party pooper
warm anchor
No kneny is epic for helping
worn ember
i should send him my essay
warm anchor
TRUE
worn ember
its only 35 pages
warm anchor
Kneny can start streaming and just review viewer submission
hexed dragon
its accepted as correct by the english dictionary
Description?
worn ember
Description?
Yes.
hexed dragon
Also, Grammarly kind of failed on that word. It was telling me that description is the wrong spelling and description was the right one.
bugs.mojang.com down for anyone?
void void
bugs.mojang.com down for anyone?
Scheduled maintenance
Though that should be over by now I think
hexed dragon
There is an article ready on minecraft.net for 1.19.1 currently 404 though
novel horizon
just luck 👀
poor zeus tho
also lvl 17 😦
i remember when i was first playing dota a long time ago, i tried using dust to get rid of wards
novel horizon
how can you lose, more carries more kills more winning
warm anchor
Zeus support readying his ult to secure the kill 
novel horizon
i mean those are not really carries but maybe semi carry 👀
true
or even nimbus the kill
unkempt drift
There is an article ready on minecraft.net for 1.19.1 currently 404 though
apparently at least one person can find articles on minecraft.net
void void
allay 'breeding'
true canyon
Pog another pos3 turn carry? <:OMEGALUL:783623213241466900>
I was pos4, but kept wrapping up fights with my ult so that helped 😄
unkempt jackal
ah yes, the gameplay feature of 1.19.1
warm anchor
that's somewhat even more impressive
void void
true canyon
I've found that if I just buy some more healing early on, and prioritize bushwhack a little more, I can basically build a pos3 build as 4 😄
unkempt drift
that doesnt really look like a 1.19.1 announcement post
it doesnt even say 1.19.1 anywhere
void void
it's just a feature showcase ig
fallen grotto
Are there some other changes in 1.19.1 besides you know what
unkempt jackal
just allay duping and bug fixes
novel horizon
it's weird they call it literally duping 🤷♂️
unkempt jackal
the announcement post for 1.19.1 pre release 1 has more info, but good luck finding anything on that god forsaken website
novel horizon
but it is kinda so
you can find it with google really easily
i was reading that info few mins ago
fallen grotto
oh allay duping is a feature now?
unkempt drift
can you stream to the browser discord app? I finally am just using a browser for discord on linux, since the app sucks so much.
true canyon
void void
oh allay duping is a feature now?
duping the mob, that is, not the item
fallen grotto
ah so just fixes
true canyon
and older stuff...
warm anchor
ah so just fixes
calling it bleeding is kinda.... idk what ally even is...
cunning raft
can you stream to the browser discord app? I finally am just using a browser for...
there should be a browser extension for that?
chrome fulcrum
Yeah, intentional game design. Just sucks that it is called duplication - since that has the implication it is an exploit
fallen grotto
Yea
true canyon
Also TIL the easiest way to find the posts is to go to the version pages on the wiki and find the reference link 😄
unkempt jackal
Well, it isn't breeding since you only need one Allay to do it
hexed dragon
There is an article ready on minecraft.net for 1.19.1 currently 404 though
The article for allay duplication on minecraft.net was removed according to David Fries (Mojang Studios Release Management Team Lead) on Twitter.
unkempt jackal
why though
hexed dragon
Twitter
unkempt jackal
so 1.19.1 is not coming today?
void void
.10 for bedrock is not coming
hexed dragon
I don't know
void void
that tweet also mentions java 1.19.1 today, and he didn't say anything about that
daring laurel
https://twitter.com/jdavidfries/status/1541815390417723392
unkempt jackal
bummer, I guess I don't get to make my allays dance to music and then right click them with an amethyst shard to make more allays today
void void
can always just use the snapshot :P
warm anchor
/give runs
unkempt jackal
I've already been using a datapack I made that adds a recipe for allay spawn eggs as an alternative to this update, but it's just not the same aesthetic as real allay duplication
hexed dragon
According to the Fabric server there is a bug that is important that isn't fixed yet. So may not come today or may come out late.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
unkempt jackal
ah yeah, I just hopped over there and I learned the VIB (very important bug)
true canyon
<@71627708521512960> <:lovege:827937351375257651>
ashen cliff
https://twitter.com/jdavidfries/status/1541815390417723392
Maybe the actually added allay duplication.
unkempt drift
im confused, is 1.19.1 releasing or... was that just a bedrock thing
golden gust
no
warm anchor
Delayed so kneny can play overwatch beta
foggy silo
^ 🙏
hollow junco
Guess maybe tomorrow it will get released? 🤔
void void
apparently there are some critical bugs holding it back
cunning raft
Guess maybe tomorrow it will get released? 🤔
No it will be releasing next week
8/1
@waxen panther
kindred basin
I’d assume they also want to give the frantic mob a few extra days to burn out
hollow junco
time to peek at their JIRA <.<
best bug write up https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-252439
somber shale
Hey, just wondering if anybody here knows if its possible to only see the data that got send from a specific plugin version in bstats?
Because when there are a lot of different (old) plugin versions still in use, its very hard to know what mc version the users of the latest plugin version are using...
pls ping me so that i can see your response :)
cedar spade
You'd have to send a custom chart that groups by that data (advanced pie or drilldown pie, one of those should work)
spiral robin
You'd have to send a custom chart that groups by that data (advanced pie or dril...
How..
cedar spade
EssentialsX also does for permissions/economy backends