general

[stuck lava]

non-F is +30euro

[lilac moon]

maybe their sandbox does something weird

idk

[sweet gale]

No name brands cause pain and suffering

[stuck lava]

nah, Kolink is fine for avg system

sold like 50 of them over past 2 years

1 came back

[vernal moth]

PSU is an investment, mine is 10 years old and saw 3 different CPUs

[sweet gale]

Tbh I wouldn't use a weird brand in a pc
Particularly with how cheap the name brand ones are these days

[stuck lava]

whichone?

I got rm1000x

[vernal moth]

Some Corsair one

750w

[sweet gale]

I have a evga supernova 750 watt G2 pau

*psu not pau

[golden gust]

tbqh, much of it often comes from the same lines, like, check review, etc, but, you know

[vernal moth]

No cat

For PSUs it absolutely matters

[spiral robin]

This sentence needs more commas

[vernal moth]

Off brand PSUs miss like half the components

[stuck lava]

hate those EVGA's, saw a bunch of 1000W G3 on mining rigs and they kept overheating

which rm1000x's were just fine

[sweet gale]

Yep haha

[stuck lava]

[sweet gale]

The G3 ones had a lot of issues I heard

[vernal moth]

And they use cheapo caps that pop if you look at them funny

[sweet gale]

Made me glad I went with the G2 model lol

[worthy geode]

stop looking at your PSU, maybe they are just shy

[sweet gale]

Haha

[vernal moth]

Plus a bad PSU can endanger your whole system

It's just not worth to cheap out on it

[stuck lava]

but I mean... it's budget CPU without iGPU, budget mobo, budget ram... what do u expect... well budget PSU

with budget SSD

[vernal moth]

Heck, it can burn down your whole house

[worthy geode]

but tbh, my brand PSU is also like 9 years old now, its really an investment and there are not that expensive anyways

[stuck lava]

probably still gonna run faster then 4th gen tho

[lilac moon]

i can burn down my own house

actually no

[lilac moon]

a lot of it is brick

so i cant

[stuck lava]

would say it can beat any 7th gen and under easily

[worthy geode]

Wouldn't AMD be cheaper if we are talking about 2019+ CPUs anyways?

[stuck lava]

I don't talk about AMD, sorry

personal trauma

[unkempt jackal]

Ryzen is so awesome

[lilac moon]

intel better

[unkempt jackal]

Ryzen best

[lilac moon]

amd users when their usb doesnt work

[stuck lava]

for me the thing was Intel just works

AMD... most of the time

sometimes

but that's just me ig

[golden gust]

Their budget is 400buckeroos for a machine

[unkempt jackal]

oh my gosh my friend this morning sent me the clip of captain sparklz complaining about usb problems on X570 boards, and it was relatable because I have an X570 and stopped using usb headphones for that very reason

[golden gust]

(and that appeared to be stretching it)

[worthy geode]

I only had Intel so far, so no experience, but the newer AMD CPUs seem decent

[lilac moon]

https://tenor.com/view/amd-nvidia-geforce-pc-explode-explosion-gif-23625713

[stuck lava]

if u get really good prices without GPU 10400 i5 is doable with 400 euros

[vernal moth]

Am loving my 3800 or whatever I have

[lilac moon]

well this is gpus so its unrelated

but funny meme

[stuck lava]

not if u get picky about PSU, mobo etc tho

[golden gust]

£

[lilac moon]

lbs

[stuck lava]

so 460 EUR?

[lament patio]

Ryzen 3000/5000 are very nice, Intel came slightly ahead recently

[viral dagger]

have no issues with my ryzen 5 1600 either, had it for 3 years now

[golden gust]

Yea, but with britbong parts supply, etc

[silver nexus]

I have an intel and nvidia in my desktop and AMD in my laptop, so far, no trouble with either.

[stuck lava]

awesome! has some spare to invest 100 EUR in a brand new shiny case

[vernal moth]

Always depends on your workload too tho

[worthy geode]

my 9th gen i5 is probably due for replacement soon, its becoming noticeably slow

[silver nexus]

Only issue with Nvidia was drivers on linux and such.

[void void]

Yo these are fire

Wtf

[lament patio]

Ah, yeah, that's fair

[viral dagger]

the nvidia linux drivers suck

[half escarp]

is 1.2.9.1 a valid version, the 1 at the end is bc i did a bug fix

[vernal moth]

Well, Linux isn't made for gaming, so of course Nvidia doesn't Invest much time into it

[half escarp]

i usually update the third value when i do an update on spigotmc

[vernal moth]

Any version is valid

[worthy geode]

seems to follow semantic versioning, although 4 numbers might be a bit too much

[unkempt jackal]

I though people just do whatever they want with version naming and we just go along with it

[vernal moth]

There is no bindibg rules for versions

[half escarp]

the thing is that the current dev builds are versioned 1.2.10-DEV

[vernal moth]

Some people go with semver, but you can do whatever

You can slap a .final at the end and be cool as netty

Or use the date like some old google libs

Those are stupid

[limber knot]

I mean, technically semver is pretty much standard if you are part of the maven ecosystem as that's the only one that is properly supported for range parsing and stuff

[worthy geode]

or just do the Discord and have endless increasing minor versions like 1.0.9005

[limber knot]

(I guess you could use a data/timestamp too as that's only one number and still support ranges)

[vernal moth]

Do people actually use ranges in maven?

[limber knot]

I've seen a couple of projects doing some version as the minimum and below the next major

[vernal moth]

Ranges suck, they are the bane of my existence in npm

And maven doesn't even have a way to produce reproducible builds with ranges, do they?

[limber knot]

I think you could force the version somehow, not sure

[worthy geode]

im sometimes questioning if maven has a proper way of doing anything

[stuck lava]

maven way

[limber knot]

ok apparently maven actually supports a couple additional formats: https://docs.oracle.com/middleware/1212/core/MAVEN/maven_version.htm#MAVEN8855

the qualifier one is actually new to me (or at least I didn't really think about it before)

ah apparently the versions:resolve-ranges task can specify the used versions or something

TIL there is .microsoft

[lilac moon]

.microsoft TLD??

wtf there is

[sinful urchin]

https://icannwiki.org/.microsoft

[lilac moon]

.microsoft is a new Brand gTLD
i read that as "brand new"

[vernal moth]

Me: 2am, guess I should go to sleep
My brain: hey, do you remember this problem you had at work on Thursday? This is the solution

Leave me alone I wanna sleep ...

[lilac moon]

TRUE\

[vernal moth]

Dum brain

[mild rune]

nah gotta fix issue first

then sleep

[vernal moth]

My boss would kill me if I log in at 2am on a Sunday, lol

Am gonna drop him a message now tho since he wasted two days on this task before dropping to me cause he gave up 😂

[mild rune]

I've made a 3am commit before when it broke my stuff

noticed my changes weren't working properly and my server wasn't saving

fixed that shit asap

[vernal moth]

Well, private stuff is different

[mild rune]

wasn't private

I swapped a bunch of images over to ubuntu and noticed docker was killing containers instantly

thank fuck it was only on 1 node before I noticed

[twin lagoon]

ubuntu

yeah that would be why

[mild rune]

look

I was tasked with doing that

[twin lagoon]

needs more debian

[mild rune]

It was using centos before

[vernal moth]

You are not a robot, you should always challenge tasks if you think you know better

Competency decides

Just general 2am life advice from yours truly

[mild rune]

I don't get paid enough to challenge shit

[twin lagoon]

yeah okay ubuntu is fine then

[mild rune]

[twin lagoon]

idk man it's 2am on a sunday and i'm still going at it with work commits

[vernal moth]

Maybe you would get paid more if you did ^^

[mild rune]

Oh yeah Mini wasn't here when I said who I work for

[vernal moth]

That's why I don't work remote, I value work life balance, lol

[twin lagoon]

average mineman work/life balance tbh

[vernal moth]

Like, my brain randomly thinks about work problems when am trying to sleep, what do you think my work life balance would look like if I would work fully remote on irregular times, lol

[mild rune]

I woke up at like 1am one night when I dreamt the solution to this bug that had been eluding me for weeks

had to write that shit down then went back to sleep

[vernal moth]

The brain is weird man

Idk who said that, some famous developer, but they always think of a problem when going to sleep and wake up with the solution

[limber knot]

I can't imagine not working remote lol

like how do you force yourself to be productive at specific times?

[vernal moth]

It's not even the work life balance alone, it's also the strong (physical) separation, plus having coworkers around is just generally nice

A non zero percent of my social interactions are with people at work

That kinda stuff just doesn't work online

[warm anchor]

[mild rune]

I think I could do in-person work but then I gotta buy a car

[vernal moth]

I got flexible working hours

[mild rune]

[vernal moth]

I cycle to work, as most of my coworkers do

I know, literal utopia, we build cities that not only favor cars

[warm anchor]

Do your work provide shower

[vernal moth]

Yes

[warm anchor]

Nice

[vernal moth]

But I take 5 min, lol

No need to shower

[mild rune]

god I wish I could easily get to places

[vernal moth]

I mean, last night I literally walked home cause I didn't feel like waiting 15 min for the tram

[mild rune]

I'd probably pay double what I currently pay just to be somewhere I can easily get around without a car

[vernal moth]

Which of course was stupid cause it took me like half an hour to stumble home but at least I was sober when I got here 😂

[mild rune]

and I already pay insane prices

[vernal moth]

How do you get around now?

[mild rune]

Share a car with roommate

[warm anchor]

Damn

[vernal moth]

See, i also have coworkers who just come in once or twice a week, they don't have cars, they just use car sharing services

[mild rune]

I live where used cars are insanely expensive and riddled with rust due to the harsh winters

so I'll easily pay 15k for a car that'll need another 15k in repairs

[vernal moth]

I paid 8k for a one summer old car with 10k km, lol

Was a rental car in Spain or something

[warm anchor]

Having car is a must in certain US city

[vernal moth]

Cause you are building your cities wrong

[warm anchor]

More like suburb

[mild rune]

My extra kicker is I'm stuck in my state till 2026 due to a scholarship I got for college

[vernal moth]

Suburbs can be walkable?

[warm anchor]

If I wanna get grocery it’s a 20 minute car ride

There is no shop around residential area

But we got big lake though

[mild rune]

Our entire country is built stupidly

[vernal moth]

I grew up in a suburb, I walked to school, we walked to get groceries

[warm anchor]

[mild rune]

We built dense cities then suburbs around them but the suburbs gotta go into the cities for anything

[vernal moth]

If parents brought their kids to school by cars they got stupid looks by others

[warm anchor]

Lmao

[vernal moth]

America just zones stupidly

[mild rune]

yup

[warm anchor]

My local high school junior and senior drive to school

[cunning raft]

Single family housing zoning is garbage

[mild rune]

It all boiled down to having a car as an american dream I believe

[warm anchor]

You can drive at age of 15 here

[mild rune]

so shit was built that way

[warm anchor]

With special license

Or 16 I forgot

[vernal moth]

Well, yes, but some desire it. The key is to have a good mix

[cunning raft]

Get rid of zoning all together

It will sort itself out

Besides like industrial zoning

[warm anchor]

But my peace and quiet JRoy

[mild rune]

heck your quiet

[warm anchor]

Can’t have kids in my zone

[vernal moth]

I grew up in a single family home, but we had a line of 3 story multi residentale buildings next street

[warm anchor]

Or those young adults!

[vernal moth]

Plus shops at the main street

It's perfect

[warm anchor]

I think single family home is very different in Germany than in US

[twin lagoon]

i mean housing in general is gonna be vastly different in any european country

[cunning raft]

Well that's because there are traditionally large portions of towns restricted to only be single-family housing

[twin lagoon]

compare it to US and it'll be even more different

[cunning raft]

It sounds like what Mini is describing is a mixed zoning policy

[twin lagoon]

US houses always seem a lot bigger to me with lots of room between the houses

here practically all houses are just row houses / built directly next to eachother

[limber knot]

europe just doesn't have any space left for people to live in

[worthy geode]

but the boring front yard grass is very important!

I sometimes wonder if Americans have heard of garden flowers

[vernal moth]

This is where I grew up

[limber knot]

Thai Wellness Massages ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[vernal moth]

The red line top is multiple redisdents, the grey blocks at the bottom too, rest is single

Button you got a store

[twin lagoon]

honestly i don't hate it nor US houses in general

just looks so off to me

[vernal moth]

Main street is one lane, 30km/h

[cold pumice]

We have rocks in our front yard

[worthy geode]

its just... its 2/3 grass and 1/3 driveway so often, it looks so plain

[golden gust]

I mean, green space is important

[mild rune]

I live in the middle of fields

[limber knot]

at least put a fence around it!

runs

[worthy geode]

yes, but cut down grass like this isn't really that beneficial for nature, insects or whatever

[vernal moth]

Not just bikes, good YouTube channel which coveres shit like this, can recommend it you are interested in modern city planning and creating enjoyable spaces for people to live

[golden gust]

Issue is that the us is too sprawled out/antigentrificstion sfuff

[twin lagoon]

alternatively it's just a netherlands shilling youtube channel

[worthy geode]

is that bad?

[vernal moth]

https://youtu.be/bnKIVX968PQ

[golden gust]

EU is too compact, which has some benefits but often requires areas with apartment complexes nearby single housing units

[worthy geode]

I just love mountains way too much, and sadly the netherlands lacks them

[vernal moth]

I mean, sure, but the points are all valid 😂

[warm anchor]

EU is also a lot smaller in scale

[twin lagoon]

that's what the southern part of the netherlands is for

[vernal moth]

I always enjoy coming over to you guys

[twin lagoon]

we've got 1 hill

[vernal moth]

We rented some house for summer again

[worthy geode]

isn't the highest point on the german border or something?

[vernal moth]

Near Zwolle or something

[golden gust]

If you pee on the border, which way does it go?

[twin lagoon]

the highest point is on the border between germany, belgium & the netherlands

[vernal moth]

Can't wait for a full week of not touching my car, lol

[worthy geode]

aren't there some islands in the carribbean that belong to the netherlands? I kinda suspect there is higher mountain on those

[vernal moth]

This week was a bad week, already used my car twice and will most likely have to use it tomorrow

[worthy geode]

A yes, Mount Scenery on Saba, about 900 metres. and it looks nice, fitting name

[vernal moth]

Anyways, gotta try to go sleep now, let's hope my brain finally stfu

[twin lagoon]

well yes but we don't talk about the caribbeans

[vernal moth]

This is why I like getting wasted, playing piano or going swimming, the only 3 activities that allow me to shut off my brain

[pure garden]

What would be the most appealing way of running an economy on a SMP based server?

I was thinking having basic items at the spawn and then giving players the ability to operate their own store. Or is item trading the go to nowadays?

[warm anchor]

[sinful urchin]

using an item like diamonds for currency makes economies feel a bit more grounded in the game than just using numbers

[pallid edge]

Admin shop or Jobs plugin = inflation - infinite money printing machine

No admin shops and no jobs plugin = players complaining economy is too hard, but no inflation

[sinful urchin]

how can a sculk block obtain more than 1 xp?

on the wiki it says "several sculk charges may end up on the same block and merge, up to 1000 experience per block."

[muted storm]

I literally just finished writing a sculk spreading PR today for Bukkit. The charges (cursors) on the sculk spreading source can merge together, yes, but it only merges their charges and time until the next tick. While I was looking at the sculk blocks, they won't drop anything more than a single point of experience

I'm not sure what the "up to 1,000 experience per block" is in reference to

Oh, experience is the wrong word

It should say "up to 1000 charge per block"

int j = Math.min(i, 1000); // j = charge

Inside of SculkBlock, the experience is ConstantInt.of(1). It won't be anything higher

[unkempt jackal]

driving is fun whenever im going somewhere i want to be 😛

I just get so bored while driving

heh

not an easy problem to solve

[muted storm]

Sir, are you aware of gas prices recently

2 weeks ago, I spent $400 in gas in the span of a week

That was fun!

[potent wedge]

[mild rune]

gas is stupid expensive

[lilac moon]

i need name ideas for a file sharing server and pastebin, currently the site is called bobashare but i cant just call the backend that as well

[muted storm]

bobackendshare

[vague nebula]

superiorskyblock2 vs bentobox?

[unkempt jackal]

yeah I'm happy that I don't have to drive so much during the summer, since gas prices are very not cool right now

not a fan of the hot temps. cross country practice starts on monday and I'm probably gonna die

[rugged minnow]

this is cool: https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/antichatreports.102894/

[daring laurel]

“fixed it”

wow they really did the bare minimum, which doesnt even matter anyway since spigot doesnt work with chat sigs

[warm anchor]

!ban @raven igloo pride troll

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned Cracked#6026 (pride troll) [1 total infraction] -- EterNity#0001.

[warm anchor]

[novel horizon]

Huh

[ashen cliff]

Friend sees a ebay listing for a "150W" tuned to 23xx Mhz.
Industrial only.
Illegal to own in Europe... (without being licensed and a company)
Buys it anyway.
Gets a visit from the import office.
Luckily no fine, but a very strong worded argument was had.

[upbeat kelp]

customs after charging me 28% tax for a computer part

just for me to get a gpu

[ashen cliff]

22% here, but adding all of their fees, it's more like 30%.

[upbeat kelp]

rip

[ashen cliff]

It's always fun paying 50€ for a 10€ product, just because they decided that they wasted 10 working hours on identifying it.

[upbeat kelp]

always fun when your government wants to tax happiness

[ashen cliff]

And for some funny reason, instantly after that resellers show up in your county somehow avoiding the tax that you as a normal person have to pay on the same item.

[upbeat kelp]

ah

[vernal moth]

Cycling is more enjoyable, better for my body, better for everybodies health in the city, better for the climate, cheaper, why would I wanna do anything else?

Oh forgot no traffic jams, searching for parking space, etc

[ashen cliff]

At least here, parking your bike is a thing you have to master.

[vernal moth]

Can't be expensive enough, still doesn't cover all the damage it does

[ashen cliff]

In front of the store? Stolen.
Inside the store? Gone.
2 meters under the river? Perfect.

[vernal moth]

See, another benefit of walkable cities, there are always people around, no opportunity to steal anything

[ashen cliff]

Or even better, they add their own chain to your bike, so you have to call someone to cut it and they require a proof of ownership for the bike.

[vernal moth]

Plus we have places everywhere to lock it

[ashen cliff]

Yeah, not how it works.

[vernal moth]

I have been cycling for 20 years and not even once stole somebody my bike nor any part of it

[ashen cliff]

Get a bike that is actually wort stealing.

[vernal moth]

We also have rental bikes at like every corner I could use if I don't wanna use my own

[vernal moth]

I paid my current one via work but with VAT it would have been 1500 euro 🤷‍♂️

[ashen cliff]

Yeah, that's considered cheap here...
I have no idea how and why people here pay 3k for a bike that they destroy the moment they fall once.
And you will fall due to the bad roads.

[vernal moth]

Am talking about a bicycle, right? No motor or anything

[ashen cliff]

Yeah.

Or getting pushed into the ditch by your own teacher... happened twice.

[vernal moth]

Just a normal dum city bike (well, mine is a trekking one)

[ashen cliff]

Yeah, those don't really get stolen here.
It either has to be cheap and generic or expensive to get stolen.
But you are still not exempt from the griefing.

[vernal moth]

My sister has a vespa and some idiots tried to drag it somewhere at 4am while the steering wheel lock was in, ruined the steering AND got caught by police and put Infront of a judge the next day 😂

[ashen cliff]

Here, that would take 10 years, because the person would be judged as insane or drunk and the case would decay.

[vernal moth]

Being drunk doesn't protect you, only makes it worse I think

[ashen cliff]

Not here.

Well, depends, but usually the just say that the person was drunk to the point, where they can't be held accountable and just get rehabilitation as a punishment.

[vernal moth]

Still gotta pay for the damages

Plus she got money for the time she couldn't use it

[agile portal]

is there a place to upload paper plugins? since spigot won't let you upload resources that rely on paper

[wide chasm]

https://forums.papermc.io/forums/paper-plugin-releases/

[vernal moth]

Soon (tm)

https://hangar.benndorf.dev is gonna be ready soon ish

[wide chasm]

Only six months for hangar Mini, otherwise you have to quit discord

[vernal moth]

This discord*

[wide chasm]

I'll get started on writing my application for core team 😉

[vernal moth]

Wait you have to write an application for that?

[wide chasm]

No, but maybe it helps 🙂

[vernal moth]

Am serious with this tho, I don't touch the game anymore, when I can't even finish hangar, wtf am I even doing here

[worn ember]

lol same

i havent played vanilla mc since like 1.12

[sweet gale]

amd stuff is good these days haha
that's a leaked video of some of the newer intel ones 😆

[distant stirrup]

How do I report a bug for paper 1.19?

[crystal lily]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues

[distant stirrup]

Thanks.

[simple garden]

Any1 know a plugin that changes the back ground music in specific regions or in the whole world?

I was using openaudiomic but that makes players constantly have to open up a browser.

[jovial plover]

i brought a new pc

[golden gust]

what sack of potatos you go for?

[jovial plover]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dell-OptiPlex-i5-2400-Windows-Computer/dp/B07MJRL3V6/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=8gb+ram+500gb+ssd+computer&link_code=qs&qid=1656238061&sourceid=Mozilla-search&sr=8-6

[novel horizon]

I thought you wanted notebook

[jovial plover]

i got the 3 year care too

[jovial plover]

i was looking at notebook

[golden gust]

Think that they just wanted anything

I mean, you got a bit of a bargin there but it is kinda shit

[twin lagoon]

that is proper garbage

[novel horizon]

Yeah. Cheap, but meh.

[golden gust]

Like, honestly, if you had a PC case already, I woulda just looked for a mobo+cpu combo, etc

[jovial plover]

pretty much

[jovial plover]

i dont have a case

[novel horizon]

You should have said that tbh

[golden gust]

Well, hey, now you have a case

[jovial plover]

true

[novel horizon]

You could get a good PC for cheap too, kinda

[jovial plover]

well, not until tuesday

[golden gust]

Not really in the UK, tbqh

[novel horizon]

I mean much cheaper than ntb lol

[golden gust]

Like, used deals here are honestly kinda shit

[novel horizon]

Really? Sad

[golden gust]

Like, PCs are just commodity shit, you either pass them to a friend or just throw them out

[jovial plover]

shipping anything here makes prices skyrocket

[golden gust]

PC recylcling is a bit of a myth over here

We just don't really have too many datacenters throwing gear out

[jovial plover]

yeah

We just don't really have too many datacenters full stop

[golden gust]

so, most of the places throwing shit out are generally the "We've had this hardware shipped from the lowest bidder sitting on our desks for far too long" type stuff, so you don't really get the flood of cheap machines that you do elsewhere, and those that do are generally picked up and refurb'd by "professionals" in which shipping kinda kills it

Like, as said, I really would be looking into upgrading that thing as soon as possible

[jovial plover]

eh

[golden gust]

maybe a GPU to tide over maybe some of the basics

[jovial plover]

i mean ddr3 is kinda sad

[golden gust]

and then looking into saving up for a new board/cpu, etc down the line

It's an 11 year old CPU chip

[jovial plover]

but i like the storage it has in it

240g ssd + 500g hdd

dang it

my cpu isnt supported for win 11

[golden gust]

1. it's 11 years old.

2. W11 would suck on that

[jovial plover]

ok??

i dont even like w11

We have committed to supporting Windows 10 until 14 October 2025.
dang it

[golden gust]

I mean, for gear that old, I'd probs just use linux on it and dual boot for games, but, yea...

[jovial plover]

time to install 21h2

[stuck lava]

2nd gen intel?

woah

also u no read reviews?

ssd is noname? cooling looks just bad... doubt u can get GPU in... sff is generally hard to upgrade

and if it's 150W psu on top of it all...

uh

[golden gust]

metrics like that are generally rated on best case situations

Not, "stuffed in a small case designed for office where pushing the CPU is generally a none issue", that's also 1/2 the rating

Like, yea, CPU progression has stalled gen on gen, but, that's what, 10 gens?

[stuck lava]

for budget pc it would probably be best to pick workstation with Xeon as those tend to be cheaper... https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_value_alltime.html kinda confirms that

[golden gust]

Xeons are nuanced in the UK as we don't really have the mass abundance of DCs that the US/EU main has being thrown out on the daily

well, yea, but in retrospec it's pretty shitty ROI

Like, you can get a £20 case from pretty much anywhere which woulda been a better foundation, PSUs are what, 60 for an okayish branded one?

find a reasonable mobo/CPU/ram combo, toss in a cheap GPU, and you got a better base bed for incremental upgrades potentially

[stuck lava]

potentially

[golden gust]

Like, I thought he'd of atleast had a PC case he could upgrade in when the funds slowly triccled through

[stuck lava]

most of mobos today would support... 2 gens?

of CPUs

[golden gust]

I mean, that'll probs last a few years for light load

but, depends on needs

I used to think that 4G was plenty

Now I'm having moments where I struggle with 24G

[molten egret]

It was at one point

[golden gust]

Like, it's good for just having something, but, probs coulda been a better investment with their OG budget

[molten egret]

Ikr

[stuck lava]

I was thinking mobos are generally bad investment

anything above mid range is waste

[void void]

I was wondering if perhaps here anybody knows: will the 1.19.1 ban system that requires chat message signatures also break things like emoji's etc that are done serverside?

[stuck lava]

I mean... way back when I got 9900k I got https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-maximus/rog-maximus-xi-extreme-model/ but I don't really think it was worth it lol

also tried out Taichi from Asrock with same cpu and... was cheaper, probably still wasn't worth it and on top of it had coil whine issue

[stuck lava]

I'm guessing yes

[golden gust]

Well, yea, I mean, mobos are a fun area but even the budget boards are catching up

if the chat preview stuff is properly used, it shouldn't break emoji's

[void void]

I see, nice to know!

[stuck lava]

if u go too low VRMs are usually bad, temps are bad and cpus can't hold clocks... but good mid range mobo can handle all that without any issues, why bother paying double of mid range for "top" stuff

[golden gust]

Yea, I mean, its the joys where if you're gonna be pushing it, going for the budget end is gonna be dumb af

but, it's not like theres a need to invest all the money into a mobo and then all the money into the CPU

[stuck lava]

[golden gust]

like, gen on gen kinda sucks, outside of the odd ryzen upgrade

but, for the most part it's a bleh situation

but, 10 gens is 10 gens

Not to mention that they change sockets like guys change underwear

[stuck lava]

yea

sometimes it feels like it's all to produce more ewaste

not all, a lot, profit driven I guess

I mean... https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/adventure-running-8-9th-gen-coffee-lake-cpus-on-z170-motherboard-asus-maximus-viii-ranger.284375/

pretty much says it all

lol

[golden gust]

Yea, I mean, that's part of the joys too, but it also creates some annoyances

I think both intel AND AMD have had a "borrow a CPU" programs

[molten egret]

Borrow?

[golden gust]

Yes, they send out a previous gen CPU so that you can BIOS upgrade the Mobo to support the current gen

[stuck lava]

I'd say they just wanna make more selling same old 14nm stuff (ok that's intel joke), rebranding etc, with mobos intel makes money on chipsets and manufactures on mobos so... win-win for both of them

while we could be running 6th to 9th gen on 1 chipset if they really wanted...

[golden gust]

Hey, i'll have you know that we call that intel 12nm

[karmic harness]

Here gas be $5 USD per Gallon (I live in the US)

[golden gust]

I mean, joy is that gas in the US has been cheap AF for decades, it's taxed to heck elsewhere, nor do we often have too much production ourselves

[karmic harness]

I apparently spend $90 a week on gas.

Ig it depends on what area of the United States too

Like for example, the next state over, it's like a dollar cheaper or something

[coarse venture]

i am sure everybody has their own lives and that it differs from yours.

[vernal moth]

I only pay 40 bucks every other month right now ^^

My car physically doesn't take more than like 30L

And only uses 4L per 100km so I can drive for ages with that

[mental meadow]

small cars epic

Nissan Micra K13

[vernal moth]

Toyota Aygo

I think the Micra is same size

[mental meadow]

has like ~4.5L/100km except if you drive like a maniac with 170km/h on the highway

82!

[vernal moth]

Kek mine can't even go 170

[mental meadow]

well

technically it can't either

[vernal moth]

Only down hill 😂

[mental meadow]

but you know, downhill

^^

[vernal moth]

I really want a Zeo tho

Lol

I would never get a benz

[mental meadow]

see I'd love to have an EV but: No charging at home possible + when we do drive somewhere, we usually drive to my family and that's around 650km

[vernal moth]

I don't need to go long trips, but yeah, can't charge at home

[mental meadow]

I'd guess you could charge at work maybe Mini?

[vernal moth]

I don't drive to work tho

[mental meadow]

fair

[vernal moth]

Plus we only have like 6 chargers

[molten egret]

Metric peoples

[vernal moth]

And they already have like a telegram group to switch around and stuff

[mental meadow]

ic

[vernal moth]

In Cologne we got chargers at every bigger corner nowadays, but it's still a hassle

[golden gust]

I have a solution

[mental meadow]

idk, I don't like having to have a car but accessibility and stuff

[vernal moth]

I could charge at my parents, am here every Sunday anyways

[mental meadow]

wanted to look into getting one of those electric roller thingies

scooters?`whats the word

[golden gust]

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-pg3800a-euro-5-3kva-single-voltage-230v

runs

[vernal moth]

Really tho, having a car makes no sense for me

I should just go car sharing, we got a station right Infront of my flat

But I got this car before I moved there

[molten egret]

Damn it generates petrol

[mental meadow]

e scooter but good pls

[molten egret]

Wdym

[vernal moth]

You can get like a e-vespa for a couple grand

[mental meadow]

no not what i mean

wait

those stupid things

what are they called

[vernal moth]

Oh

Those I would never buy

[primal solar]

Isnt that a scooter

[vernal moth]

Cause they lay around at every corner anyways

[primal solar]

of sorts

[vernal moth]

That particular model also sucks because you can't take the battery out easily

[molten egret]

Electric scooter

[mental meadow]

well yeah

[golden gust]

I mean, aurora just needs a souped up granny scooter

[mental meadow]

but it would be a nice alternative to having my gf drive me everywhere

[primal solar]

https://tenor.com/view/fast-grandma-grandma-wheelchair-granny-speeding-gif-22356316

speed

[molten egret]

Overclock it

[vernal moth]

Google maps alone knows 6 companies that offer scooters around me

[molten egret]

i9-9900k scooter

[mental meadow]

but the ones that I was looking at are super expensive, +600€

[primal solar]

Add in a turbo charger and maybe a V8 and you got a scooter that can outrun a micra

[golden gust]

electric scooters are illegal here, which, is ofc fun

[primal solar]

wait wot

[mental meadow]

they are legal here if you got reflectors and have a max speed of like 25kmh iirc

[vernal moth]

Also a licence plate

[golden gust]

oh, wait, maybe they changed the law

[mental meadow]

not here

[molten egret]

Just adds more thrill

[golden gust]

ah, yes, this year

[molten egret]

get a backup gf

[primal solar]

yeah thrill tht goes upto 30kmph and a cop with a cycle can come catch you

[mental meadow]

oh Mini that reminds me, I recently bought LED lamps for our car, you know how the austrian motor vehicle department writes their regulations?

[jovial plover]

hi

[golden gust]

I mean, I kinda miss having a bike, but over here I'd need to leave it in the garden thing, which, bleh

[vernal moth]

Like for front and tail lights?

[mental meadow]

they literally had a page that said "The attached document is also valid in Austria", signed that, and attached the one from germany

[vernal moth]

Lmao

[golden gust]

I mean, theres generally certain requirements for lamps to be legal, and retrofitting is generally a PITA, need to ensure that it gets checked, etc, etc

[mental meadow]

headlights, got the philipps ultinon pro6000 or whatever

[vernal moth]

Reminds me of group projects at uni

[mental meadow]

https://www.philips.at/c-e/au/autolampen/scheinwerfer/ultinon-pro6000-led.html

[molten egret]

Y’all buy headlights separately?

[vernal moth]

Never felt the need to switch my car lights

[mental meadow]

it's one of 2 legal LED headlights in germany/austria

[golden gust]

Well, their bulbs

when the bulb goes you replace the bulb

[mental meadow]

everything else is halogen

yeah I meant bulbs

[golden gust]

Unless they're the sealed BS in which you have to replace the entire assembly which is fairly common for LED prebuilts

[mental meadow]

not full lights

[vernal moth]

My car has led day lights, but not head lights

[mental meadow]

I've calculated that it'll save around 12€ a year in gas lol

[molten egret]

How do you buy a car without legal headlights

[vernal moth]

My car looks hella cute behind my dad's giant leaf

[mental meadow]

it comes with halogen headlights, they are legal

[molten egret]

Toyota Corolla?

[mental meadow]

or like halogen bulbs I should say

[vernal moth]

Aygo

[molten egret]

Aygo?

[twin lagoon]

Aygo

[vernal moth]

This

They super regonizable cause of that cross

That was too quick I can't see whom to kick 😂

[inland edge]

Hello, I have a few questions about the upcoming minecraft message reporting system for 1.19.1

1. My chat system has always been: intercept players message, cancel players message, broadcast a message to everyone (containing the player's message but formatted), (i have my reasons to do like this (even tho the standard impl would be not cancelling the msg event in the first place but simply modifying before it outputs) and it wasn't made to circumvent the chat report system, it was already coded like this in 1.15)
   Am I obliged to change it?
2. Is chat reporting optional or obliged since 1.19.1?

[primal solar]

Just realised that your way is actually awesome

if I am getting this right

[inland edge]

lol it wasn't even intentional

I did it that way because i wanted to make a bungee chat without any proxy plugins for it, so basically all the servers of the network exchanging data through redis and then broadcasting to every of their subservers the received msg

[mental meadow]

1. With 1.19 the chat system got reworked, we plan to offer a proper API to work with that eventually
2. Your decision. You can, right now, completely disable it, or only allow players that have it enabled to join your servers
   see also
   https://twitter.com/aurora_smiles_/status/1540309676713205760 (also has a flowchart how the new chat system works)
   https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/7149823936781

but yes, ideally chat plugins will need to be reworked at some point in the future

[inland edge]

thanks for your detailed answers

[inland edge]

what does "ideally" mean here: will we get forced by mojang? or will it be a mojang rule to do like this or our server is breaking rule?

[golden gust]

ideally plugins work to support the security features mojang are adding

We have no idea what mojangs longterm plan is

[mental meadow]

ideally plugins do things the proper way, which changed with 1.19^^

right now we/Spigot don't do anything properly and more or less send every message as a system message

[golden gust]

Those of us who can are generally trying to work with them to try to figure out some solutions, but, we're only a small voice in the scheme of things

[solemn crescent]

Hi guys, in some servers I have seen that players are able to purchase chunk in a shopping world/district and build their own shop. Which plugin helps to do that?

[inland edge]

Okay i see
I really wonder though how bungeecord networks could do things in the proper way
Because when player sends a message in server A, so they are in server A, and then msg gets relayed in server B, but player isn't in server B; and i know they are technically connected to a same proxy anyway but that ain't really an official design from mojang

[ashen cliff]

GriefPrevention, WorldGuard and PlotsSquared all support that.
(with additional plugins adding the shop function.)

[solemn crescent]

Thanks, PlotsSquared in the one ! ❤️

[mental meadow]

that is something for us to worry about :'D but relaying things shouldn't be an issue since the signatures should still be valid

the EULA applies to everything you do with Minecraft

[worn ember]

"end user license agreement" so it applies to everything you do with the game

[mental meadow]

you need to accept the eula before you even start a server

that has nothing to do with each other

no

[worn ember]

online mode has nothing to do with licensing

bad

[molten egret]

Is it possible for the message to be signed if I change the content of the message (uwuifying)

[inland edge]

Anyway thanks for the answers!

ngl i'm very sceptical about the future of mc chat

[mental meadow]

if you change the content the signature is no longer valid

[meager tusk]

Why is it that whenever I come here it's always a discussion about the new chat rules.

[golden gust]

Yes, that's what the preview chat thing is for

[meager tusk]

No more banter here.

Wtf.

[mental meadow]

https://twitter.com/aurora_smiles_/status/1540776806281728005

Aurora (@aurora_smiles_)

Thanks to @cubxity for creating this flowchart showing exactly how the system of chat signing and verification works! Might be useful to understand how we can be sure that a message was sent from a specific player and not modified.

Twitter · Jun 25, 2022, 7:19 PM

[golden gust]

You sign the previewed contents thing

[inland edge]

i'll check it out

[mental meadow]

I linked you the same thread 10 minutes ago 😢

[inland edge]

how about formatting, colors, adding a heart between each word, adding a prefix and suffix to player, will all those be supported in ur opinion while remaining the proper mojang way?

[inland edge]

i saw it yeah, thank you very much :3

[molten egret]

Couldn’t the server edit the message to whatever it wants then the client will sign it?

[golden gust]

Yes, that's what the preview is for

[inland edge]

ah yeah

makes sense thanks!

[molten egret]

Couldn’t the server do something malicious?

[golden gust]

ofc, there is an expectation here that players won't sign messages that they don't agree with

Yes, but the player would need to confirm that

[inland edge]

will go eat now take care everyone!

and thx

[molten egret]

Oh the player gets prompted

[golden gust]

Yes, that's what the preview thing is for

[mental meadow]

You see the preview of your message

[molten egret]

I see

But if people saw that their message would be uwuified they may chose not to send it

[quasi valley]

that's the point

[molten egret]

That’s a problem

[quasi valley]

(and obviously everyone should disagree with such a monstrous message)

[void void]

I don't see a problem here

[molten egret]

No it’s perfect

[mental meadow]

clients can disable chat preview

thats not even the topic rn Bloof

[molten egret]

Some 9 year old joined my server and thought they got hacked

[void void]

by the way, did they add some sort of minimum delay since the preview was sent before you can send a message or could you predict when someone presses enter and send a malicious preview just before that?

[golden gust]

We discussed that

Not looked into the logic

[quasi valley]

probably pebkac

[golden gust]

probs version switching

[mental meadow]

is that open source?

i need it

[molten egret]

Yes

[mental meadow]

link pls

[molten egret]

It’s on hangar

[mental meadow]

perfect thanks

[molten egret]

https://github.com/treecaptcha/uwu

[mental meadow]

@twin lagoon can you put that on the test server next update

[twin lagoon]

fucking weebs

[mental meadow]

[twin lagoon]

@quasi valley thoughts

[quasi valley]

[twin lagoon]

@mental meadow fork it and make it only uwuify other messages for kenny's chat

[mental meadow]

:'D

[twin lagoon]

then we can talk

[molten egret]

Ehhh

Ima make it inject itself into the paper jar so it’s hard to remove

I might need to make a forge version of uwuify

[rancid void]

put it on a command, ask people about anime and talking in uwu language, then toggle it

[molten egret]

No

Uwuify must be forced

[void void]

looks like it doesn't

[molten egret]

Also whoever was giving me a hard time about the rights to the software, the original creator was cool with my paper port

[lavish compass]

@twin lagoon weeb

[jovial plover]

fuck

[mental meadow]

bye

!ban @fleet matrix hatespeech + russia troll

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned redwatermelon371#0293 (hatespeech + russia troll) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.

[jovial plover]

when 1.20 is out

[primal solar]

I think he is from another universe like the total opposite one

[molten egret]

That man didn’t last long

[primal solar]

Could be a good guy

[lavish compass]

Code does not follow Java naming conventions

[molten egret]

Yeah

I did see that

I started my class with a lowercase letter

[lavish compass]

public static Uwuify uwu;

[primal solar]

This should never-ever reach hangar under any circumstances

Not if the world is ending

[mental meadow]

bad news

[lavish compass]

Don't worry, it won't

Hangar is not getting finished anyways

/s

[mental meadow]

https://hangar.benndorf.dev/TreeCaptcha/Uwuify

[lavish compass]

you are kidding

[primal solar]

Imma pay 50$ if they block uwu

Thats corruption

[molten egret]

That plug-in should be pinned to the top of hangar list

Omg Boris is on tv

CNN

Ehehehehe British person funny

[rare python]

joris bhonson

[visual egret]

fuck boris

[golden gust]

https://tenor.com/bg29N.gif

[visual egret]

sorry don’t know where that came from

[molten egret]

His hair is funny

[visual egret]

his urge to get rid of human rights is funny too

[golden gust]

Telling you, everytime I see him he reminds me of bloody ralph wiggum

[molten egret]

Man looks like he just got drunk yesterday in a welsh bar

[mental meadow]

bloody

[visual egret]

he always looks like that

probably because he’s always drunk

[mental meadow]

i don't even have chrome open does that count

[visual egret]

I have 37 safari tabs does that count

[golden gust]

only 18 atm

[visual egret]

I used to have like 97

[magic river]

I only have 16 tabs open right now, haven't pulled up reddit, orange site, or twitter yet

[primal solar]

why do you have discord browser open

[visual egret]

orange site?

[primal solar]

get the application

[magic river]

hacker news

I tend to open those once or twice a day then end up with like 20-30 tabs to chew through on top of those 16 that are basically always open

They're kind of bookmarks but kind of not

I don't care about them long term, they're my TODO list basically

[molten egret]

296

[molten egret]

Chrome on iOS

I haven’t closed them ever

[primal solar]

let me get this straight

296 tabs?

[molten egret]

Yes

[magic river]

I have like 3 web novels I want to read the first couple chapters of to check out, 5 github tabs for projects I want to try to use and/or copy for work, some dev articles

[primal solar]

I am really controlling myself from telling a joke right now

[molten egret]

Omg

Boris is back

On cnn

His teeth are like captain Jack sparrow’s

[primal solar]

His hair is like he doesnt know they exist

[molten egret]

He just look more deranged by the minute

[brave mountain]

You can't just be a candidate for core team

[ashen cliff]

How come?

[primal solar]

Because they dont feel like it

[brave mountain]

Core team is like a family, you must have grown up with them

A brotherhood

[ashen cliff]

Cat would instantly promote me to core, if I wasn't from Balkan.

[golden gust]

1. core team is odd number

2. being around a smelly balkan 24/7, just, nothx

[novel horizon]

Aww cat

Then give the role just for the day, not on the night, easy

[brave mountain]

What is balkan

[novel horizon]

What

Google it lol

[timid gull]

Damn. this big ole nice dedicated server and im the only one that plays on it. lmao

[magic river]

I finally got Oracle to take my credit card

Now I either suck at docker or at firewalls, I can't use my free quad core aarch64 system for the first thing I tried

[vernal moth]

Wouldn't be surprised if docker is funny on aarch

Actually no, my PI runs it fine

[magic river]

I got the container running, it's in host network mode, I can curl localhost:5000 to access it on the machine, can't access it from my laptop

So I think I suck at firewalls

[vernal moth]

Oh ye

[visual egret]

holy shit

i just installed github copilot

[vernal moth]

Altho host network mode also sucks, rather just expose the port

[visual egret]

this is amazing

[magic river]

I needed to give the container control over wg0

[vernal moth]

I got tired of copilot extremely quickly, it got in the way so much

[magic river]

It's a wireguard thing I was messing with so I could access my jellyfin away from home without making it public

I just set up tailscale instead

[vernal moth]

Can just do that in docker too I guess ^^

Idk I have bad experience with host networks

[rancid void]

I'm FORCED TO use the site

[mild rune]

My docker setup is funky. I ended up getting ufw to work with it so I can block ports on containers since by default docker just went around ufw but now I got this long ass command for when I actually want a container to have access

[magic river]

ufw is inactive so I think I just suck at oracle cloud

[mild rune]

no that's just oracle

[rancid void]

In Discord VC, ONLY on Discord btw, I have constant crackling and lag in outgoing audio.
Doesn't happen with any other program or Discord web.
It DOES however happen on Discord Stable, PTB, Canary, with Audio subsystem Standard/Legacy/Experimental and on a fresh Windoze install
Had this issue for weeks now

[magic river]

I even tried just adding an ingress rule for 0.0.0.0/0 all ports all protocols

?

The message right above yours is me saying I just did that...

[rancid void]

nvm I had like 3h of sleep

[unkempt jackal]

oraclecloud also uses iptables

as firewall

by default

[rancid void]

Was a PITA for me, don't recall how I fixed it and can't check because they randomly banned my account overnight with nothing running and I've been procrastinating the call for months now

[magic river]

Ubuntu 22.04, not Oracle's RHEL rebadge

[unkempt jackal]

oh

[magic river]

I'll figure it out eventually, probably

[brave mountain]

Don't get it

[vernal moth]

Finally somebody gets it, me joining core was only compensation for having to grow up near cat 😂

[inland edge]

just a generic minecraft server question, imagine that level-name=Coolworld in server.properties
So far there is no nether nor end.
How do I add them? (i have custom maps for each)

[vernal moth]

Just name them accordingly and it should work

Alternatively use a proper multi world plugin like multiverse

[inland edge]

what does it offer?

i mean

Why would I do that?

[novel horizon]

well...

to manage worlds?

[inland edge]

okay thanks so I would call them Coolworld_nether and Coolworld_the_end in the server directory

do i need to reference these names some where

[inland edge]

but if it works without too, so what does it bring

[novel horizon]

don't use it then

[spiral robin]

Probably better to use a real world management solution than (ab)use the built in world directories

Plus, it gives you extreme flexibility of creating new worlds in the blink of an eye

As well as fine grained permissions and settings for reach world

[molten egret]

There should be a feature to properly disable the nether

[spiral robin]

Is that not a thing in one of the config files

[molten egret]

I mean nether

End there is

Nether still loads with it off in server.properties

[novel horizon]

They can just look what that thing does, I don't need to tell them they want to use it and why and so on, it's just neat to have it

[lament patio]

There's some additional steps for Ubuntu images
#paper-help message

It reminds me, when I first got Oracle Cloud I was clueless about Linux, tried replacing Oracle Linux with Ubuntu as there were more tutorials online, but hit this same issue, gave up and stuck with OL since

[ashen cliff]

All you have to do in Ubuntu after that is just: iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 25565 -j ACCEPT

[lavish compass]

well also remember to persist your rules

[ashen cliff]

That's on them to figure out later.

Or just never reboot.

https://posili.me/i/4yeEbruR-2022-06-26_17-17-38.png

[lavish compass]

and have fun with oracle

[viral hornet]

(!)

[lavish compass]

they have their funny firewall

[ashen cliff]

Works fine for me.

[smoky cloud]

There’s one weird iptables rule by default, that’s it

Remove it and UFW works

Well you still have the vNIC firewall but that isn’t Oracle-exclusive

Or just use Oracle Linux and avoid the UFW crap

I don’t get why the rule exists tbh

[smoky cloud]

It me

Also the security list isn’t OS-specific, it’s in front of the VM

(technically it actually applies to the entire subnet)

[jovial plover]

lmao

my server is blocked from itself

Caused by: java.sql.SQLException: null, message from server: "Host '152.67.149.180' is blocked because of many connection errors; unblock with 'mysqladmin flush-hosts'"

[true canyon]

Gotta love messing up sql! 😄

[golden gust]

In the words of my people, "git gud"

[ashen cliff]

neofetch on Debian requires toilet... exactly where this Apple 🗑️ belongs.

[novel horizon]

😦

[signal veldt]

Anyone know this version?

[signal veldt]

Look for the answer: ||PS3||

[ashen cliff]

Probably the 3DS version.

[signal veldt]

PS3

Not played in over 3 years

this gives me memories

lol

[vernal moth]

Finally got my monitors mounted

Looking good I would say

[vestal jasper]

Hot

[vernal moth]

Now if only I wouldn't suck with cable management

[mild rune]

just don't look at them and they're managed

[golden gust]

what you do is get the plastic wiring wrap stiff thingy, and sticky pads and ties

ez

[warm anchor]

|| POV: hangar delayed ||

[charred sleet]

he literally has been coding for the last day, i’m sure he has spent all of that time at his pc not idle at all and definitely all on hangar

[golden gust]

Please allow us to bully mini

it's the main reason we're here

[brave mountain]

No, this is how hangar gets build

[fervent lotus]

tcvs#7102 DM advertising

[warm anchor]

Thanks for reporting

[true canyon]

Thanks for thanking

[warm anchor]

Thank you for just being here

[true canyon]

Thank you for being welcoming!

[quasi valley]

You're welcome

[vagrant marlin]

i prefer taping the cables to the wall

[golden gust]

I used to route cables professionally

I don't generally care to go that indepth at home, but, I do kinda miss the joys of that

[vagrant marlin]

aint it great

[golden gust]

oh god

[molten egret]

Why does updating to the new Minecraft version take so long?
The keyboard he uses:

[golden gust]

I mean, my cable situation is ass, like, but, damn

[vagrant marlin]

i dont see the cables so its managed

[molten egret]

Xbox one edition

[signal veldt]

PS3

[vagrant marlin]

literally any console version from pre 2017(?)

they all looked the same

[signal veldt]

Oldest version

[vernal moth]

Did that two years ago

Now what? 😂 😂

[vagrant marlin]

that is not the oldest console version

🙄

[visual egret]

this is concerning

how does copilot do that

[molten egret]

Use a good language

[visual egret]

never

[molten egret]

Arl

[visual egret]

proof of concept in python

if this turns out great i'll rewrite it in java

[golden gust]

smh

never used that stuff though

is what I used to use

took a bit home once for my PC and stuff, made stuff much nicer

[ashen cliff]

Nice and clean until you have to replace a cable.

[golden gust]

thing just unspirals

or you can just cable tie it

[ashen cliff]

I know, I'm using one.
But good luck once you somehow magically tangle it up.

[golden gust]

Well, maybe if you wasn't balkan, you know

[ashen cliff]

Maybe. But now I actually own something from Apple that works!

Look at this beast: https://posili.me/i/fP9U4NsU-2022-06-26_20-36-14.png

[golden gust]

So

what you're tryna tell me is that, you got apple hardware, it works, so you decided to defile it

[ashen cliff]

Look, I had to overclock it bro.

I just had to.

[vernal moth]

Sometimes I wonder where krusic finds that garbage

Then I remember

Balkan

[ashen cliff]

Look. 3 macbooks and 2 mac minis for 60€. Very much worth it.

[golden gust]

reminds me of AvE, and his shithole of hoff

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/UE7erccu-2022-06-26_21-08-05.png

[golden gust]

need a /tpm command?

[visual egret]

hey krusic

actually nvm

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/v972pbTE-2022-06-26_21-10-36.png

Come on. Give it a bit.

[unkempt jackal]

will that actually run a 1.19 server?

[ashen cliff]

I'm still sad that I couldn't get 1.8 to run on a 400Mhz ARM CPU.

[visual egret]

then run 1.5.2

the true gamer version

[ashen cliff]

No timings.

Need to FLEX.

[visual egret]

understandable

[ashen cliff]

If you have time to wait, I will give you an answer.

[visual egret]

do java properties need a value?

[rare python]

@ashen cliff I dare you to post a timings report and ask for help in #paper-help.

[visual egret]

i had the most cursed timings report ever

shame they delete after 30 days

128mb ram 1.16.2 server with 100+ days uptime

[ashen cliff]

You don't have to even dare me to do that.

[lavish compass]

Backport it

[ashen cliff]

Can't be posting unofficial build timings in #paper-help now can I?

[warm anchor]

All my homie self-host timings

[visual egret]

https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/lack-side-table-white-30449908/

what colour do you prefer your server rack in

[ashen cliff]

White.

[visual egret]

the dust though

[ashen cliff]

Got none.

[visual egret]

doubt it

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/7z8KDZkz-2022-06-26_21-34-55.png

Very soon.

[visual egret]

i tried running it on a pi zero

it always got stuck on loading datapacks

[unkempt jackal]

you'll still have to wait ages for it to generate spawn

[ashen cliff]

It worked on a Pi Zero W for me. 🛌

[visual egret]

what are the chances you overclocked that pi to 5 gigahertz

[ashen cliff]

Close: https://hwbot.org/submission/3285712_kristjan.krusic_hwbot_prime_broadcom_bcm2835_(bcm2708)_816.47_pps

[visual egret]

https://hwbot.org/image/1681310.jpg

[ashen cliff]

Don't question it.

[visual egret]

do i even want to understand whats going on in this image

[lavish compass]

what the fuck

[visual egret]

tf is that capacitor doing

[lavish compass]

needs more noctua

[unkempt jackal]

just sitting on top of the heat sink

[ashen cliff]

It's a super cap... it's there to "fix" my very amazing cable connection.

[visual egret]

you're fucking with me

[ashen cliff]

2.7V 10F cap.

[golden gust]

ah, yes

the balkan PC case

[ashen cliff]

I mean...

This is even worse: https://hwbot.org/submission/3365568_kristjan.krusic_gpupi___1b_geforce_gtx_750_ti_1min_33sec_75ms

[golden gust]

she da real MVP here

[ashen cliff]

Fact!

[warm anchor]

Sometimes I forgot krusic is a weeb

[ashen cliff]

Can't blame me.

At least I'm not British.

[warm anchor]

@waxen panther thoughts?

[ashen cliff]

Bruh. Epic profile.

100% not a bot.

[waxen panther]

I have not briish

Am not

[charred sleet]

unlucky

[novel horizon]

🦥

[visual egret]

Anyone else tried making a server for Open to LAN?

if i put an entire address in, the client seems to only accept the port and replace the ip with the multicast sender

if i put an address in without the port, the client only seems to accept the address

[warm anchor]

By address you mean the numeral ip?

[visual egret]

either numeral ip or domain name, both seem to work the same

also, for reference: https://wiki.vg/Server_List_Ping#Ping_via_LAN_.28Open_to_LAN_in_Singleplayer.29

[worn ember]

dont use your own ip to connect to your server

use localhost

or 127.0.0.1

[visual egret]

so there's no way to make a lan thing show up that connects to a public server?

[worn ember]

well then it wouldnt be lan now would it

[visual egret]

thought i could hack it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[worn ember]

no clue

[visual egret]

so i'll just launch the server locally in my script

that should work too

[void void]

you mean something like https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/lanbroadcaster.5320/?

[visual egret]

that appears to work for public servers

at least from the spigot description

wait no, its 10.x.x.x

thats local

[raw tide]

Are these fair prices?

[spare venture]

there is almost no information there. “2 v cores” is like saying “you will have a vehicle to drive across the country” and it ends up being a scooter

[raw tide]

So... There bad?

Sorry here is more info

[warm anchor]

Those ain’t for Minecraft I hope

[raw tide]

Yeah there for Minecraft

[warm anchor]

Nope

[raw tide]

What?

[warm anchor]

Run fast

[raw tide]

Wdym-

[lament patio]

It's terrible

[raw tide]

Oh

So there not good?

Wait why is it so bad I'm confused

[lament patio]

Free and premium plans use CPUs that aren't good for MC and disk space is way too limited, about the "pro" plan, a 7700k isn't bad but we don't have much to go by on how fairly shared they'll be, biggest issue with those is the price as there's way better elsewhere and that's more generous than 40/80GB of space

[raw tide]

Ah-

[spare venture]

those are bad cpus

ancient