general

[lean kiln]

I don't like betterf3

it kills fps in the f3 menu

[twin lagoon]

it does

[simple garden]

what does krypton do, i see a lot of people using it

[twin lagoon]

tbf that is just minecraft text rendering at it's finest

[frank otter]

network stack optimization

[lilac moon]

wtf i just looked at the screenshot of betterf3

[lean kiln]

I also think it's ugly

[lilac moon]

too much info

[twin lagoon]

that said betterf3 does allow for customization

yeah the default preset is something

[frank otter]

I think runs better on servers tho

[lilac moon]

https://github.com/cominixo/BetterF3/blob/architectury/1.19/docs/readme/readme-gif-image.gif?raw=true

[simple garden]

should i get it @frank otter

[twin lagoon]

i do like the colours in f3 to separate things out

[lilac moon]

true

[frank otter]

if you have the ram to run it probably

[simple garden]

oh its a ram eater

[frank otter]

I don't actually know how well it optimises things but it's got to be better than nothing

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/9GtTtAg3-2022-06-19_23-53-58.png

[frank otter]

it's not, it's just yet another mod

[lilac moon]

optifine

[simple garden]

omg my arch nemesis senior optifine

[lilac moon]

im trying to figure out what web framework to use in rust

and everyone says to use everything

[frank otter]

do you want order or do you want cool macros

[dapper pumice]

That looks like my mod-list 😹😹 but instead of impact I have wecui

[ashen cliff]

True chad mods list.

[frank otter]

what's impact/wecui?

[potent wedge]

Yeah it's as good of a client as the moon thing

Or the lion one

[simple garden]

how do i replace a slab in worldedit? i run

//replace <slabA> <slabB>

but the issue is

when i do that it places the slabs on top when i just want to change the bottom

[potent wedge]

Who knows #paper-help

Or is it ..

[simple garden]

its not a paper issue so i cant put it there

[potent wedge]

Yeah but it's a plugin issue ack

[simple garden]

its a worldedit issue lol, so i put it here xD

[potent wedge]

Your not getting a answer from someone here try worldedit discord

[visual egret]

I still can’t use multimc because of MSA

yay!

[lilac moon]

uh probably order

[cunning raft]

didn't they add msa support

[lilac moon]

i just want somethign that's pretty standard and makes sense to write in

like something that feels right

it sounds like main contenders are rocket.rs and actix-web

[visual egret]

Microsoft requires a parent to enable 3rd party logins for u16’s

however, there is no parent

and I am set as the “family organiser”

which just borks my privacy settings which I can’t access, which means I can’t enable the 3rd party services toggle

yay!!

Mojang support doesn’t help

[potent wedge]

Family organizer is parent but can set parentd

[visual egret]

and when I try call MS they give me a “an error occoured”

[visual egret]

hm?

[waxen panther]

damn that’s crazy …

[visual egret]

we love borked ms accounts!!

aren’t they theoretically violating GDPR by not giving me a way to access my privacy settings?

[limber knot]

Maybe

[waxen panther]

damn that is crazy

[visual egret]

heh, I wonder if when I mention that in another support ticket they’ll do something else

[waxen panther]

you should sue them oskar!

[visual egret]

frfr

[waxen panther]

let us know how it goes

😇

[visual egret]

oskar vs microsoft 😀

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther heathrow sitrep

[waxen panther]

@twin lagoon can’t go through security without my friend so I have to get a hotel

All the hotels in the airport are full so I’m getting a bus

🪖

[visual egret]

are you in heathrow

[waxen panther]

I do be

[visual egret]

oh

that’s not far lmao

[waxen panther]

monka

I’m leaving soon

[cunning raft]

extremely far for someone who cannot legally drive

[visual egret]

80p for a train, £0 for a bus 😇

this isn’t america

[cunning raft]

sorry i don't use fake currency

no idea what any of that mean

no aspiration to care

[visual egret]

it means free bus

[cunning raft]

don't care

[waxen panther]

I’ve paid over £70 in travel today 🤵‍♂️

[cunning raft]

you must be accompanied by an adult

[visual egret]

nope

although the police did stop me once 😀

[twin lagoon]

tf why

[waxen panther]

it’s like the same ticket or whatevr

[cunning raft]

how else is he going to smuggle his lean

[waxen panther]

Idk

Yea true

[twin lagoon]

just vibe at a starbucks or something

[visual egret]

I see you’re a victim of British rail prices

pret >>

there’s like 5 inside heathrow

[waxen panther]

They close at like 11 copium

[visual egret]

well have fun then ig

[past cloud]

😢

[potent wedge]

Lucky I live in America where your lucky to find rails and never actually get on one

[visual egret]

I think the 2 rail lines in america are cheaper than rail prices here

they definitely are in all of Europe

[cunning raft]

amtrack and things like dc metro are ultra cheap

[stray nebula]

How does spigotmc manage to have the worst search function ever?

[visual egret]

xenforo ✨

[potent wedge]

It's not just 2 rails the only affordable way to go cross country until cars was trains and it's cheap to maintain 2 really long steel beams ontop of a bunch of rocks

[visual egret]

it’s sometimes cheaper to get a flight to anothrer country, then back, instead of rail in the UK

[magic river]

Don't you have to go through border control now though?

[visual egret]

so?

id rather go through border control than pay £100 extra

• if you have a Schengen area passport (I do) you get to skip the all passports queue

[magic river]

Seems like a massive pain to take two flights and go through border control twice instead of just getting on a train and taking a nap

[visual egret]

it’s £100 of savings ¯_(ツ)_/¯

that’s apart from the point though, point is, rail prices are too high

[magic river]

Shouldn't have privatized them

[visual egret]

we love politics

[magic river]

iirc they did it in a really dumb way too that ensured there was no benefit to building new rail lines

Regional monopolies and requiring different companies for the lines and the cars

[warm anchor]

@cunning raft thoughts?

[cunning raft]

we do not

and discussing such will result in moderation

[visual egret]

sarcasm

I was implying that we in fact do not

[cunning raft]

ok

[warm anchor]

Oskar papermc speed run p2

[cunning raft]

i was being sarcastic too

[visual egret]

cool

[cunning raft]

[visual egret]

I said what I said though

[magic river]

The part about moderation was the sarcasm

[visual egret]

cool

[warm anchor]

JRoy is the sarcasm

[magic river]

I always picture JRoy more as Ron Swanson

https://giphy.com/gifs/parksandrec-season-6-parks-and-recreation-rec-OJwXR5ynhJ5RYZSjFJ

[cunning raft]

i am always real

[visual egret]

accurate

[cunning raft]

nothing i do is a character

that's why my profile picture is who it is

a guy who is always serious

[visual egret]

you’re very serious jroy indeed

[magic river]

There were apparently a lot of people who thought Colbert wasn't a character

[true canyon]

Which is incredible!

I was reading an interesting Reddit thread about people watching The Boys reacting to a racist character with "I agreed with them until they started hitting people" unironically, like thinking that character wasn't built to be showing how terrible they are.

[cunning raft]

Reddit thread

yeah that checks out

[warm anchor]

JRoy sipping his $50 a bag premium coffee in his 8000 sqft mansion typing and moderating discord

[cunning raft]

ok

weeb vtuber millionaire

[warm anchor]

[spiral robin]

@warm anchor net worth?

[gentle star]

is there any plugin to spawn bot/fake players what can render chunks as normal players?

to check how much server can keep players on 20 tps

[spiral robin]

I think cubxity made something for that

Stresscraft I think it was called

[gentle star]

thx, i will check

[lilac moon]

State-of-art Minecraft stressing software written in Kotlin.

[potent wedge]

That I was looking at a flag, and realized that the Texas flag was doing all kinds of cool stunts when the America flag was chilling, what does this symbolize?

[unkempt jackal]

Texas will gain independence

[silver nexus]

I’d like to see that fight…

[unkempt jackal]

The warnings stresscraft gives are very intimidating

[gentle star]

https://github.com/Cubxity/stresscraft i found this but

how i can install it

[true canyon]

It was about YouTube comments, which is the real "makes sense" here

[simple garden]

hey is if set a plains biome in the end with worldedit, can i make it rain?

in the end

[lilac moon]

try it

i wanna know too

[simple garden]

lol i am doing i with amulet to force the biome change

[solar pumice]

is purpur faster than paper?

[spare venture]

that’s a weird thing to ask in the paper discord

[solar pumice]

and also a pretty stupid thing to ask because it just adds fun things

i have recently learned

[spare venture]

purpur contains pufferfish, which is a fork of paper that adds some performance stuff. purpur itself does not improve performance much

purpur doesn’t just add “fun stuff” it also adds some API

but you should ask that kind of stuff in their respective discord

[unkempt jackal]

What is so fun about purpur anyways

[foggy silo]

Rideable mobs, I guess? I don't really know, but yeah you should ask in their discord.

[true canyon]

it's a lot of stuff that could be done as plugins, from what i can tell

[potent wedge]

I have very bad experiences with purpur (though never used it)

[spare venture]

that’s very interesting

[spiral robin]

not a purpur advocate by any means but how on earth can you have bad experiences with something yet never use it

[spare venture]

turned him into a newt

[lilac moon]

I used to use purpur but it had a weird bug where mobs would freeze once they got like 30 or so blocks away from the player

like even phantoms would just stop moving once they flew away from you

I probably should've investigated and made an issue report but I ended up just going to paper for now because it was easier

[primal solar]

uhhh how but what../?

[potent wedge]

https://c.tenor.com/g-P8diB7FYgAAAAM/dont-care-didnt-ask-cope.gif

[primal solar]

You seem to be in need for a therapist

[potent wedge]

Says the one who's status thing is import *

[unkempt jackal]

L + *;

[primal solar]

Solves all problems 🙂

[void void]

Does anyone know a good self-hostable mail server I can use to create one mail-address per service which forwards to my primary mail? This way I can drop one mail per service whenever there is a data breach or related.

[plush bane]

Self hosted mail server is a bad idea as all the mail you send is going to end up in their spam folders

https://modrinth.com/mod/cc-polymer
Patbox's Fabric server side computer craft port has officially released. Pretty hacky and pretty amazing. Doesn't work with proxies as it is technically invalid state. (Something like pectating a horse you are riding for the GUI + interactions)
The brigadier auto complete stuff is neat too.

[regal siren]

That is amazing

[rare python]

Now port it to Paper

[gray briar]

ok tanks

[void void]

I won't be sending emails from my own server, simply works as proxy to my primary mail

used to register at for example, random services

[gray briar]

it is not working

[ashen cliff]

Thanks. I hate it.

[dim jungle]

you could use https://relay.firefox.com/ it gives you a free email that forwards to your main email

[pastel reef]

Is CoreProtect resource intensive?

[primal solar]

yeah a bit

[novel horizon]

uh in what way are you asking, you want to compare it to others or what

There's lots of other plugins that are more "resource intensive"

[rare python]

Why does Velocity and Paper use different versions of adventure

[formal tusk]

any ranks plugin for 1.19?

[lament patio]

Never seen it show up in spark or timings

[twin lagoon]

blackspigot 2

[void void]

is there a bug in paper like

[twin lagoon]

like

[void void]

if someone opens shipwreck chest

server get crash

[golden gust]

Loooooooooooooooong standing vanilla bug

[rare python]

[plush bane]

Apart from Firefox Relay you could also use Cloudflare Email Routing

[lilac moon]

Try https://simplelogin.io/ maybe

Self hosted

I think it hits all your check boxes

[void void]

Thanks, that's precisely what I was looking for

[molten egret]

ideal phantom behavior

[void void]

If I tell ‘em “no” once, they gon look at me like I’m E.T

[young trench]

how can I fix the bug

I just used the geyser plugin

java player saw the same view

[warm anchor]

give us a screeshot of that in JAVA then

[young trench]

OK, wait a while

[magic river]

I don't understand, is this a complaint about quasiconnectivity?

[charred sleet]

yes

[warm anchor]

Amaranth gonna start a 3 hour lesson

[charred sleet]

So i was around when they invented that
👴

[magic river]

lol, I actually did start playing before pistons were a thing

But no, I think SpaceWalker already wrote a big thing about this recently when someone tried to say the AC patch in Paper had a bug

[vernal moth]

there was a change around that in 1.19 tho

that was backported to 1.18

[vernal moth]

piston mod > vanilla pistons!

I remember when mojang added pistons and I was ANGRY that they were worse than the mod

[magic river]

Only way to tell for sure is to see if the same machine, built in the same location, has the same behavior in vanilla

I dunno when the piston mod came out, I found a video from April 2011

[vernal moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=salYX2iDyqs

thats when I found it

OG captain sparklez vid 😄

[magic river]

Yeah that video

[unkempt jackal]

yooo this video is OG

[jagged egret]

I wonder how hard it'd be to make it shoot players & sand like it do in the video

probably not very

[vernal moth]

thats what I hated about vanilla pistons

like people did shit like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhFsuB5AKc

[warm anchor]

A good looking lag machine!

[unkempt jackal]

is this mod still maintained? 👉 👈

[vernal moth]

we didnt had lag in 1.5

beta 1.5 btw

[warm anchor]

true

[vernal moth]

when notch stole pistons he at least gave the mod creator a unique cape

[mild rune]

when beta 1.7 dropped and my friends and I built random piston stuff for like 48 hours straight

good times

[unkempt jackal]

man 2011 captainsparklz sounds so excited

[vernal moth]

2011 was exciting!

[mild rune]

2011 Minecraft hit differently

[void void]

that's normal redstone behaviour for java

[visual egret]

2011 minecraft

I think the first version I played was 1.5.2, might have been later than 2011 🥲

[unkempt jackal]

I started playing around 1.3

[spare venture]

oskar were you born yet by 2011

[visual egret]

yes I was

wait

I just realised kids born in 2011 are now 11

[magic river]

Now do the same thing (in the same coords and direction) on java singleplayer

I thought adding the piston patch in was one of the first tasks jeb had

iirc his first big new feature to the game was potions so it was around this time period he started

[void void]

How to enable keepinventory for all three worlds overworld, Nether, the end

[worn ember]

set the gamerule in each world i suppose

[void void]

I can't change the command in any world, it's giving the wrong command

How to fix

[worn ember]

type it right then lol

[radiant mantle]

Does anyone know how I can keep a chunk loaded? Like I have a sugarcane farm and I want it to run 24/7 even if players aren’t nearby. I tried force load but it doesn’t seem to work

[worn ember]

theres chunkloader plugins

[radiant mantle]

Ye I tried do you know any

Cause force loader command doesn’t work

[magic river]

iirc forceload keeps it loaded but won't tick it

[radiant mantle]

I want it to keep running

What’s diff between ticking and loading it

[magic river]

Paper complicates this even more by making a bunch of ticking logic dependent on whether a player is close

[magic river]

See: simulation distance vs view distance

[radiant mantle]

Ah

[magic river]

Basically the same thing as that

[radiant mantle]

So how can I make it run when I hundreds away

What plugins

[upbeat falcon]

KeepChunks | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

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[radiant mantle]

I tried this

It doesn’t work

[magic river]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[radiant mantle]

I did it overnight and it didn’t do anything

[worn ember]

did you set it up right?

[radiant mantle]

Yes

I did the right chunk

It’s keepchunk keepchunk (Coords)

And the server was up all of last night and when I came back on it didn’t chnage

[worn ember]

The most common server implementations like Spigot and Bukkit are supported, however Paper is recommended for the best experience.

so it shoudl support paper

[radiant mantle]

Ye Idk it doesn’t work

Any other ideas

[vestal jasper]

That's neat

[spiral robin]

@ripe sphinx

[vestal jasper]

@twin lagoon

[ripe sphinx]

[spiral robin]

Isn’t that just this https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Tutorials/Quasi-connectivity

My redstone days are long gone

@thin rover spacewalker knows 😭

[void void]

it is, yes

[spiral robin]

Hello Noah

[vestal jasper]

I believe we've mentioned both of these things to them

[spiral robin]

Oh I didn’t notice there was lore to this

Thought they just posted the image randomly

[thin rover]

There's really two things going on. One is quasi-connectivity, i.e. the piston is powered from two block above (think of it as the bottom half of a door) but the more confusing part is that you can place that redstone block without the piston realizing it should extend, leaving the piston in an invalid state.

[vestal jasper]

Yeah they're sending the originally-requested pics of the issue happening on java.

[spiral robin]

Oh 😄

[vestal jasper]

#general message

For lore

[spiral robin]

Oh

[deep flax]

yo fams, api stuff here: how do i get the item's name from .displayName()
maybe there is a better channel to ask this in

[vestal jasper]

Why

[thin rover]

probably #paper-dev

[vestal jasper]

What do you need it for

[spiral robin]

You probably want the id?

[vestal jasper]

Like "Iron Sword"?

[deep flax]

kinda but more like the custom name

[ripe sphinx]

what specifically do you want

and what do you want it for

[deep flax]

the item's custom name

[vestal jasper]

displayName is the custom name

[deep flax]

why the why?

[vestal jasper]

Afaik

[deep flax]

yes but its giving more info than i need

[ripe sphinx]

because displayName returns a component, and you can't nessecairly get something useful from that on the server side

[deep flax]

got you

[ripe sphinx]

hencec why we need the why

like do you want the plain text? to be able to send it to someone?

something else?

[vestal jasper]

Because I see lots of people using display names to identify items instead of something like pdc

[ripe sphinx]

never seen people using display names for that, it's usually lore

[deep flax]

i need kinda like a custom item with features, that im adding.

[ripe sphinx]

actually nvm you might be right vic :/

[twin lagoon]

uwu

[vestal jasper]

You can set the name with .displayName(...)

If you need to identify items from your plugin, use something like PDC.

[void void]

Hey aber

[vestal jasper]

If you want to display the items name without the brackets I'm sure there's a way to get that but idr

[deep flax]

ok this vid is so old, and out of date. but basically im recreating this, for java edition:
https://youtu.be/dPK-NDDdIjc

i dont like players using commands to teleport so i made a book

oh here is a better one: https://streamable.com/t39wb2

[young trench]

so how can I fix it?

its so strange

[unkempt jackal]

it is a feature of the game

[young trench]

a?

strange

they r distance

[ripe sphinx]

that's "intended"

(read: was originally a bug, but too many redstone builds abuse that functionality now, so here it stays)

[young trench]

emm

im a bedrock player just canot understande it

[magic river]

It's not a thing in bedrock, dunno if they're going to add it or just leave that as a difference between versions

But you can't turn it off so when using geyser you have to deal with it

[young trench]

its insteresting

[spare venture]

that emoji looks like it was ripped directly from 2003

[true canyon]

and scaled up using an algorithm from 2003

[warm anchor]

[magic river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmaUIyvy8E8

[deep flax]

..displayName().toString().split("text")[1].split("\"")[2]; ended up going with this

[ripe sphinx]

yeah uh that...no

just no

what is your actual goal

[deep flax]

lol, my goal is to get the name of a named item

[ripe sphinx]

well I got that bit, but for what reason

[vernal moth]

if you want the plaintext, use the plaintext serializer

[ripe sphinx]

what is it you want to do with the name

[vernal moth]

but the name is a component, it can have style and shit

it can be multiple nested components

[deep flax]

the goal from here is if the player right clicks the item with that name an action will happen.

[ripe sphinx]

ok what josh thought. Don't use the name to determine if an item is a special item. Use the PDC to store data

[vernal moth]

since players can rename items

[ripe sphinx]

and plugins

[deep flax]

no yea, players remaining items ain't an issue for me, not trying to be overly secure about this

[vernal moth]

pdc is still way better here

[ripe sphinx]

this isn't just security though, like your method will not work

it can easily and trivially be brokenn

[deep flax]

broken how? i just wanna know if the item the player right clicked has that name or not

before it gets to that the item has to first be a written book

[deep flax]

if you look at this vid, it will work just like that. a written book with some text inside on how to use it. yes the player can just make another book and rename it. that aint no issue the book uses xp to function.

[spare venture]

you can prevent renaming the item, but just use pdc man. item display name is not a reliable way to identify items

[visual egret]

lmao custom items

[limber knot]

the display name might even change between minecraft versions or even paper builds depending on how the serialization changes

[visual egret]

that was some stuff back in the day

[limber knot]

pdc has been the goto there for years now

[ripe sphinx]

and also you're relying on an implementation detail (toString), which adventure can and will break without warning

[deep flax]

idk its a one line fix if it break with an update

nothing complex about it

[visual egret]

it's also a 100 line implementation compared to a 10 line implementation using PDC

[deep flax]

what?

[visual egret]

to do it your way, you need to make sure no items can be renamed to that, prevent any book writing exploit stuff, make sure the item name doesn't change between updates, etc

[ripe sphinx]

PDCs are incredibly easy to do this kind of thing with, and won't just up and break like toString might

[deep flax]

public void onPlayerUse(PlayerInteractEvent ev) {
    Player player = ev.getPlayer(); //ignore this line
    String itemName = ev.getPlayer().getInventory().getItemInMainHand().displayName().toString().split("text")[1].split("\"")[2];
}

this is all it is, from here on out i just implement the functions

[spare venture]

accessing pdc is just as difficult as accessing display name, so why do the unreliable and dangerous method

[visual egret]

what in the..

[spare venture]

you should probably do some more checks before that

also display name to string wtf

you can’t just turn a component into a string

[deep flax]

i will the main issue i was having was that i didnt know how to get the item's custom name.

[spare venture]

well you still don’t because that won’t give you it

[deep flax]

but i can, and did

[void void]

please just use the plaintextserializer, or ideally, pdc

[ripe sphinx]

you're basically asking how to drive a car when everyone else is telling you that you need to take a boat

[visual egret]

pov: me 2 years ago

[spare venture]

adventure should break that to prevent bad practices

[visual egret]

im pretty sure people here can agree that my ways of coding 2 years ago were not great

and i was doing exactly what you are

[pastel reef]

Does Lunar beat Sodium on obsolete Computers?

[deep flax]

dont worry i got the windows rolled up

[spare venture]

no

[void void]

just randomly replace the e in text with a Cyrillic ye

[magic river]

ev.getPlayer().getInventory().getItemInMainHand().getItemMeta().getPersistentDataContainer().get(new NamespacedKey(plugin, "my_key_name"), PersistentDataType.STRING)

[visual egret]

^

there's no way for a player to change that themselves unless they have permissions

[magic river]

Or creative

[visual egret]

i'd argue creative is permissions considering the amount of stuff the client can get away with

[deep flax]

them changing the name of an item aint something im worried about. if they wanna rename it.. go for it.

[visual egret]

found the horrible impl i did

[ripe sphinx]

also I'm seeing many NPEs in your future with that current code

[visual egret]

at least i used the lore, which afaik cant be as easily edited

[ripe sphinx]

but still much bad

[visual egret]

yeah

[ripe sphinx]

yeah one of our old custom plugins still uses lore for a bit of data (tbf it predates PDCs), need to get around to updating that at some point

[shy eagle]

This is like one of my fav songs 10/10

[vestal jasper]

._.

[deep flax]

lol, why are you guys so against players renaming items?

[visual egret]

we arent?

[vestal jasper]

We aren't.

[ripe sphinx]

we're not, you're basically trying to hammer in a nail with a blowtorch

[visual egret]

from what im seeing, you are

[deep flax]

im just taking the easy route that dont rely on other things

[vestal jasper]

We're saying doing it the way you're intended to prevents it from randomly breaking

[twin lagoon]

@vestal jasper 🥺

[ripe sphinx]

and the intended way is easier too

[visual egret]

this literally relies on like 10 things working in your little test enviroment

[mild rune]

easy route

[visual egret]

that code you sent can throw an NPE at least 3 times

[deep flax]

it aint finished code, i just wanted to get some help from y'all on how to get the item's custom name

[visual egret]

well good thing we're fixing your X/Y problem too!

[void void]

Another benefit of using the pdc is that you can just rename/localize your items later on without any problems

[ripe sphinx]

actually thought of a better analogy: you're trying to hammer in a nail with an unstable grenade

[void void]

but again, if you insist on using item names, use the plaintextserializer instead of what you're doing now

[deep flax]

now that's my kind of hammer

[visual egret]

how old are you?

[deep flax]

old enough to let things break

[visual egret]

no, but seriously :p

[deep flax]

im 25, so like i dont take minecraft seriously, just wanna give the players something nice to play with.

[visual egret]

cool

so i assume you're mature enough to listen to a solution that's ultimately simpler and has a much lower chance of breaking

[deep flax]

now sure if i wanna make this a public plugin then sure, going with what you guys are saying is a way better way to go about it

[visual egret]

if you use item names
if any of your players:

• get creative mode
• get access to /give
• use a book exploit
• use an anvil

your code will break

if you use a PDC:

if any of your players:

• get creative mode
• get access to /give

your code will break

and now guess which 2 factors every single vanilla survival player has access to

anyway, i'm done with this argument

[deep flax]

ok so the way the item works is that i can be any item.. but has to have the specified name.
but you know i dont really want it to be any old item. gonna have it be a written book with a specified name. if the player loses it, they can simply make a new written book and name it with the specified name. the cost of the item comes from xp ussage, so im not worried about them renaming or changing anything.

[visual egret]

then simply set a boolean pdc on the book and you're set

then read it when you have to

saves you a lot of checks

[void void]

anyone here get mc working on m1 macos?

im running into issues

[mild rune]

I use https://github.com/MinecraftMachina/ManyMC

I think MultiMC is adding support now that Mojang has added it

[vernal moth]

vanilla launcher master race

[mild rune]

well now yeah

Had like half the FPS compared to native arm on vanilla before 1.19

[vernal moth]

well, early adopter tax

[mild rune]

worth it

[void void]

thx

i dowwnload this

[visual egret]

okay, so this is slightly hypocritical but has bungeecord ever supported 1.5.2

or was it made after that

[magic river]

Half FPS compared to native, double FPS compared to 2020 MBP? 😄

[vernal moth]

fuck me I think I wanna buy 600 bucks monitors for my piano

what is wrong with me?

[visual egret]

monitors? for a piano?

[vernal moth]

ye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDQaetfuuX8

[visual egret]

and another little question, how much players can a 1.5.2 server handle

[visual egret]

oooh thats cool

[magic river]

Modern good hardware, 1.5.2 spigot? Probably like 200 players?

[vernal moth]

they are dum expensive

[magic river]

If you took 1.5.2 and put everything that's been learned and optimized since (that is applicable) in there it'd do better

[void void]

yh

manymc worked

thanks @mild rune

[magic river]

I suspect it'd struggle a bit with 200 players otherwise, maybe like 10-15 TPS unless they were all trying really hard to not tank the server

[visual egret]

thats great, thanks

i'm about to make the most attrocious minecraft server ever

[smoky cloud]

Add a resource pack that replaces all the soundtrack with anime openings

Then you'll have the most atrocious server ever

[visual egret]

you know how school kids figure out how to get anything running on school computers

[ashen cliff]

Daily reminder that a multithreaded 1.5.2 fork exists.

[visual egret]

hello krusic, is it good

[mild rune]

Probably for like 5 minutes till it throttles because I only have the MBA and it turns into a space heater

[ashen cliff]

Good? Very, but also very broken.
Make sure to restart it hourly.

[visual egret]

no good then

[ashen cliff]

Very good actually.

[lilac moon]

what the actual fuck

[deep flax]

https://tenor.com/view/yall-wild-malik-tosin-morohunfola-friend-request-youre-crazy-gif-17786053

[lilac moon]

catch (NullPointerException e)

pls dont actually do that

[deep flax]

me?

[lilac moon]

yeah

[deep flax]

but like what's wrong with it? it works, does what i need it to, no more no less.

[visual egret]

now that i'm working with the 1.5.2 spigot api

i was expecting it to be much harder

but i forgot spigot doesn't change

[lilac moon]

why write awkward bad code now and fix later when you can just write good code now

[visual egret]

only thing im really lacking is components

[lilac moon]

and its like equal difficulty

[magic river]

lol, main difference is no paper stuff and old block id stuff

[lilac moon]

anything other than that long method chain

[ashen cliff]

But why?

[lilac moon]

me?

[ashen cliff]

Yes.

[lilac moon]

why do it the bad way

[ashen cliff]

Because it saves memory. 🛌

[lilac moon]

true

i did not consider that

[ashen cliff]

I know it looks ugly, but over time the memory does add up.

[lilac moon]

is it ever gonna make any tangible difference

[deep flax]

  public void onPlayerUse(PlayerInteractEvent ev) {
    Player player = ev.getPlayer();
    var item = ev.getPlayer().getInventory().getItemInMainHand();
    var itemType = item.getType();
    if (itemType.equals(Material.BOOK)) {
      String itemName = item.displayName().toString().split("text")[1].split("\"")[2];
      if (itemName.contains("NotBook")) {
        // Do the stuff
      }
    }
  }

this is what it looks like currently, from here on out i just do the stuff that i want it to do.

[lilac moon]

theres gotta be a better way to do that by itself though

like just a better way to split the text even

its too cursed

[deep flax]

yes

[ripe sphinx]

he's been told many times

[deep flax]

some of y'all thought that this was an issue for me, but nope. i welcome it.

[lilac moon]

im past exploitability even, theres gotta be a better way than converting it toString(), splitting, and then splitting again at double quotes..?

[deep flax]

another way by still converting to string is to just check if it contains the custom item name.. which i then do in another line

[lilac moon]

i probably missed but what item names should/shouldn't it match

i wonder if regex would be a shorter & simpler way to do the same thing

[mild rune]

there's a plaintextserializer lol

[lilac moon]

says its deprecated apparently

ah wait nvm

[mild rune]

ye

[lilac moon]

what the heck

[deep flax]

lol what, well anyways.. see what i mean why rely on other things when i could just use plain java??

[lilac moon]

idk why its deprecated

[lilac moon]

at the very least i would say regex

[unkempt jackal]

plain java

[lilac moon]

since its a lot less ugly

[mild rune]

I think it's because they made a new one. I've never used it so idk lol

[lilac moon]

i thought abstractions were like one of the core ideas of java anyways

but im not gonna go say you should follow all the ideals perfectly all the time

wdym

[lilac moon]

ah i found it, there's one in adventure

[magic river]

Any language with eval() can be exploited this way

[rare tiger]

... pokemon green trollface.png

[magic river]

Lower level stuff can usually be exploited by writing native code and tricking something in to jumping to it

[ashen cliff]

[lilac moon]

wait who is that in response to

[magic river]

eval exists which is enough

[vernal moth]

there have been plenty RCEs in java

[ashen cliff]

Just dev.

[mild rune]

ah yeah they're probably pushing for people to start using adventure

[lilac moon]

i dont see the message of anyone talking about rce

[vernal moth]

JS code is notorious for it because how easy it is

[magic river]

It's from #paper-dev we moved

[rare tiger]

"eval isnt used in production tho"
_ _
_ _
_ _
_ _
_ _
_ _
the hundreds of new sql injection exploits being created annualy: 🤐

[lilac moon]

oh yes webpack loves to use eval by default i think

[magic river]

Classloader API in Java is eval

[jagged egret]

did you guys know babies are born with 4 kidneys

[deep flax]

  public void onPlayerUse(PlayerInteractEvent ev) {
    Player player = ev.getPlayer();
    var item = ev.getPlayer().getInventory().getItemInMainHand();
    var itemType = item.getType();
    if (itemType.equals(Material.BOOK)) {
      String itemName = item.displayName().toString();
      if (itemName.contains("NotBook")) {
        // Do the stuff
      }
    }
  }

here is a prettier one

[vernal moth]

java has so many deserialization attacks

[lilac moon]

flashback to when i was trying to learn react and then realized it was way too big for what i wanted to make

[vernal moth]

its not even worth talking to you if you never read more than 1 CVE

[magic river]

Serialization API in Java is kind of eval

No one uses classloaders?

[lilac moon]

this convo is a big mess now

[rare tiger]

isnt every OS in the world intentionally doing RCE all the time :)) usually those OSes are made in C :))))))) just sayinggggg

[mild rune]

[void void]

What are you trying to do

[spare venture]

bro stop using display name to identify an item

use pdc

[lilac moon]

c stands for cool

[deep flax]

exactly what you see

[lilac moon]

clang is cool lang

[vernal moth]

lets just stop

[jagged egret]

if that were the case it would work

[vernal moth]

they clearly have no idea wtf they are talking about

[magic river]

#general was having a #paper-dev conversation and #paper-dev was having a #general conversation 😄

[vague lagoon]

don’t tostring a component

[lilac moon]

doesnt like paper literally use classloading to load plugins

[vernal moth]

of course it does

[magic river]

Yes, plugin loading is arbitrary code execution

The only part missing is remote but that's not hard

[rare tiger]

as opposed to black magic, unicorn farts and prayers. yes it does

[deep flax]

what do you suggest as an alternative?

[vernal moth]

depends on your goal

[rare tiger]

one of the component serializers

[lilac moon]

yeah people said to use plaintextcomponentserializer

[void void]

PDC.

[void void]

^

[magic river]

You should use a PDC but if you're fixated on using names at least use the plain text serializer

[lilac moon]

^

[spare venture]

all of this has been said multiple times

[lilac moon]

oh wow theres a section on this wikipedia page titled "JAR hell"

[spare venture]

#paper-dev too

[lilac moon]

o true

[void void]

Oh wait is this not paper dev

[rare tiger]

Identifying items, storing arbitrary data- PDC
Compatibility with &6Old color codes- LegacyTextComponentSerializer
Getting the plain text of a component- PlainTextComponentSerializer
Moving Components around as JSON- GsonComponentSerializer
Nice alternative to old color codes- MiniMessage (* not always included)

[deep flax]

i would if it didnt say Deprecated

[lilac moon]

theres one in adventure api

i think

[void void]

but it is included

[deep flax]

ill look

[rare tiger]

mmmm depends

sorry for misleading

[void void]

Forget about display names

[spare venture]

you’re afraid to use a deprecated method but aren’t afraid to use unsafe practices

[magic river]

minimessage is only included in 1.18.2+ paper

[vague lagoon]

plaintext isn’t deprecated

plain is

[lilac moon]

what the hell

idk what language this is but it looks like rust but not quite

[deep flax]

no im afraid of neither, just going with what works

[lilac moon]

oh maybe it's scala

[rare tiger]

yeah i like to build on 1.17 cause 1.16 and lower uses the destroystokyo namespace so its a nice cutoff

i consistently forget about newer api changes

[limber knot]

have you never heard of Godzilla?

[rare tiger]

press 4 flag window key and letteer r for more info

[vernal moth]

!warn @void void stop trolling

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Warned Slatt#4087 (stop trolling) [1 total infraction] -- MiniDigger#3086.

[rare tiger]

i got warned on a server once for saying "nice"

[rare tiger]

this is the exact confusing thing that happens when you jam shiny libraries into hopelessly old codebases

[sonic imp]

How can i create flat world on my paper server?

[rare tiger]

mmm last time i checked in multiverse was the prime plugin for that but its pretty old now

i wouldnt trust a dinosaur like me

but you can also go into server.properties and change the default level type

if thats what you mean

[void void]

make the world in single player and copy that world folder into the server before starting

[lilac moon]

nbt editor to change generator settings if you are so incline

[rare tiger]

ah yes, first you are going to want to step out of your neanderthal cave and find a stick of proper length to begin fashioning your stone spear with.

[void void]

#paper-help message

[deep flax]

yo so apparently there was .getItem().getI18NDisplayName() which is a String so.. yea.

[magic river]

That's going to be something like minecraft:iron_sword

[lilac moon]

did you test it

[deep flax]

oh lol you guys are right, i did test it but just over looked the output

[lilac moon]

oh

[spare venture]

you know this would’ve been solved a while ago if you just used pdc

[deep flax]

i dont need pdc

[mild rune]

[smoky cloud]

I keep reading that as Primary Domain Controller

[lament patio]

Hey @ Void, what's that honeypot plugin?

[jagged egret]

does anyone know a simple way to run custom code when the laptop lid is closed

can be any language. Using win10

[mild rune]

I think with window's task scheduler you can have it run something when the computer goes to sleep

(assuming your lid close puts it to sleep)

[gentle star]

Aikar 👀

[lament patio]

When in doubt, I've heard Paper #general is a great place for legal advice

[magic river]

Is https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/8008 just waiting for someone to click the button or does MM need to rebase it or something first?

[sonic imp]

Thanks

[magic river]

Hmm, I should probably abuse being able to talk in #paper-contrib to ask there

[mild rune]

[void void]

latter, though that could be handled by merger

(but not as easily as just slapping merge)

[lilac moon]

is it because of the failed ci build

[void void]

ci was failing because javadoc.io was down

[lilac moon]

o

someone should rerun it then

[spare venture]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/7822 🥺

[lilac moon]

are we sharing pull requests

https://github.com/PaperMC/Velocity/pull/643

[magic river]

That one didn't get a cat to give it a green checkmark yet

[worn ember]

nice

[rare tiger]

EY HE SAID THE N WORD 😡 👊

[spare venture]

someone should give it a checkmark

[warm anchor]

@lean kiln

[lilac moon]

weeb

i need to just write something

[spare venture]

@dapper pumice someone important

[spice plinth]

Any recommendations for a really cheap host for like 5 players max?

[warm anchor]

Oracle

[spice plinth]

sobs

A friend is using a free server and it's making me sad that his friends wanna play but can't because he hosts on his PC lol

[warm anchor]

If you are over 18 and willing to learn Linux basic oracle free tier

My friend is paying like 20 cents to 3 dollar a month for his

[spice plinth]

I am a software engineer but I kinda don't wanna poke it much just pay money, get server xD

I've used shockbyte in the past but they're apparently bad for reasons, tempted by the $2.50/month server

[warm anchor]

Yeah that’s why I suggest the oracle thing

Since you already got experience

That free tier is better than 99% of the budget host out there for $20 or below from my own benchmark

[spice plinth]

but also laziness lmfao

[warm anchor]

You just need to grab the A1 Altra instance

[warm anchor]

But yeah looking around anting below $10 ain’t gonna work

[spice plinth]

Even for very few players

[warm anchor]

Maybe my standard is too high but yeah lol

[spice plinth]

Meh, I'll just give him a place far from spawn on my server lol

[smoky cloud]

Just don't use their cursed Ubuntu images

[visual egret]

What do you lot use instead of NBTExplorer on linux?

[vagrant marlin]

...nbtexplorer?

it works just fine

[visual egret]

via wine?

[vagrant marlin]

via mono

[visual egret]

huh

[vagrant marlin]

https://github.com/jaquadro/NBTExplorer#linux

[visual egret]

and how exactly would I run/install it

[vagrant marlin]

akshually

https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.jaquadro.NBTExplorer

[visual egret]

thanks

works, thanks

[molten egret]

has anyone noticed any benefits of OpenJ9?

[twin lagoon]

https://modrinth.com/mod/uwuifier @quasi valley thoughts

[lean kiln]

I'll put a virus in paperweight to secretly install it

[peak ginkgo]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO VIGILANCE

[twin lagoon]

can we uwuify paperweight and check for kenny's windows username

[lean kiln]

but only for kenny and leaf

[quasi valley]

my windows username is "michael"

[lean kiln]

I'll check for your gpg key and git settings

[twin lagoon]

perfect

[stone idol]

anyone have paper 1.16.1

dm me

[crystal lily]

To download old versions of Paper, click here ➡️ papermc.io/legacy ⬅️ and fill out the questions. Note that old versions are completely unsupported and contain numerous bugs/exploits.

[stone idol]

w mans frl

oh

im black sooooooo

[twin lagoon]

bruh

[stone idol]

ok

u got it

[magic river]

Put a MoCA filter on the cable line in to my house, ended up not using MoCA (so far) myself but just having the filter seems to have made my connection better?

Like, it was fine before but the signal measurements I can see seem to be better and my speedtests have been more consistent although that could just be a fluke based on neighborhood usage

I wonder if one of my neighbors has DVRs or a custom MoCA setup and is leaking into the neighborhood wiring

Problem is I changed too much at once to say for sure the filter is helping

[warm anchor]

Just believe it

[molten egret]

where is the source I might make it a plugin for paper

[molten egret]

your coax is connected to your neighbors?

[peak ginkgo]

https://github.com/Ran-helo/uwu/blob/master/src/main/java/io/github/ran/uwu/client/Uwuifier.java#L22-L24

this is the important part

technically its the two above it but they all appear to do the same

[molten egret]

could this be added to paper as a non dissableable feature?

[warm anchor]

I think you can do so via client translation(?)

Someone probably did it already as a mod for ui

[molten egret]

I mean like baked in with option to turn it off

so every message runs through this

[warm anchor]

That sounds like a plugin feature

[molten egret]

sounds important to all users of paper

sounds like they would love to have every message they send reformatted

[magic river]

Err, the whole neighborhood goes on a single line and they use different channels to keep them isolated for internet

For TV you just all tune in to the same channel and it's "multicast"

[molten egret]

can't you unplug it?

[magic river]

...it's how I get my internet

[molten egret]

oh

I just use it to get internet to my room

[magic river]

So you actually do use MoCA

[molten egret]

ye

[magic river]

But have fiber or DSL for internet?

[molten egret]

yeah fiber

MoCA lan

[magic river]

We don't have fiber to the house, just to that box like 3 blocks away

[lone steppe]

hey i heard that paper stops bedrock breaking and headless pistons and stuff and i was wondering if theres a way to turn it off but i still want to use paper because of performance things

[crystal lily]

Having problems with TNT Duping, Bedrock Breaking or Sand Duping Vanilla Exploits? See: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/3854 for information.

[lone steppe]

tyty

and how can i edit the files?

[ripe sphinx]

normal text file editor, just like any other config file?

[lone steppe]

but like whats the file for this

[limber knot]

one of the paper config files in the config folder

[ripe sphinx]

or paper.yml in the root directory if on 1.18 or older

[lone steppe]

tysm that worked

:D

[jade prairie]

guys quick question

[molten egret]

oki

am ready

[jade prairie]

can you break nether roof bedrock with the piston and 2 tnt method on a paper server?

or is that somehow fixed?

[molten egret]

I think there is setting for it

[molten egret]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/3854

[grim quiver]

What are general good anticheats free/paid that don't require much configuration in terms of how like NCP had to make checks much more strict with violations and stuff

[molten egret]

I use themis and it's pretty good for basic anti cheat

[limber knot]

Try this wiki page on spigot https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/anti-cheat-list-bukkit-and-spigot-1-19-x/

I mean the default NCP offers a great middle ground between false positives and actually preventing cheats ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rare python]

Paper is the best anti-cheat.

[limber knot]

making stuff more strict will just lead to lots of annoyances 👀

@rare python Agreeable :paper-uwu:

[grim quiver]

I mean some check prefer to be more strick for pvp type stuff

[lilac moon]

but scissors beats paper

[rare python]

I can't even run most anti cheats on my server, it would probably freak out because of all of the witchcraft the server does.

[limber knot]

Issue: scissors don't exist

[lilac moon]

s/scissors/sword

[molten egret]

[grim quiver]

Anyone have experience with Matrix or Spartan Anticheat

[magic river]

I need new windows is the problem with my cooling system

But it's also just hot as fuck out

That's 40C, btw

[molten egret]

have you tried linux?

[limber knot]

lol

temperatures dropped by half since yesterday where I live (37° to 17° today) 👀

[molten egret]

celcius?

[grim quiver]

my rooms at 130 F rn

Sun shining right on it

[molten egret]

you are dead rn

[grim quiver]

Love and hate Chicago

[molten egret]

just hate it and move

[grim quiver]

Nah my room just needs blinds just the sun litterally just shines in from like noo to 9pm every day

room next to mine has blinds and its only like 90 with ac off

my room also doesn't have ac yet but it will xD

[limber knot]

@molten egret well I definitely don't mean rankin...

[molten egret]

wha

John Rankin Waddell, known as Rankin, is a British photographer and director. He has photographed Kate Moss, Madonna, David Bowie and The Queen. The London Evening Standard described Rankin's fashion and portrait photography style as high-gloss, highly sexed and hyper-perfect```

[limber knot]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rankine_scale

[molten egret]

seems like a shit scale

[limber knot]

hence why I didn't mean it :P

[simple garden]

Is it possible to add plugins to a offline world?

[golden gust]

er

wut

[simple garden]

I was gonna setup a offline world for a friend cause she has really bad network and she was griefprevention

[golden gust]

well, yea

a server is a server

offline mode is literally designed to run the server on a LAN without a connection to the outside world

[simple garden]

Oh so I can just Gen a server and USB her the folder?

[golden gust]

ofc, there are caveats on plugins, you're gonna wanna make sure to run them locally so that they fetch any dependencies, but, sticking to open source plugins or plugins from spigot should generally work offline, ofc assuming that they don't rely on network features

but, yea

(and, for the love of god, don't run the server on the USB)

*assuming FLASH, if SSD, go for it

[simple garden]

No no no I was gonna give her the USB to put the folder on her pc lol

I'd never run a server on anything but that actual machine lol.

@golden gustfor a solo lan server will 1 or 2 gigs be good?

its a 1 person server

[coarse lily]

Cat's name literally has "don't ping" in it - so don't ping cat

[simple garden]

ok my bad

[coarse lily]

1-2GB is more than fine if you aren't pre-generating terrain.

Server files and plugins and stuff should only be a few hundred MB.

[simple garden]

thank you and sorry again for pinging when i wasnt suppose to

[twin lagoon]

@coarse lily

[coarse lily]

@twin lagoon

[molten egret]

I did it

I ported uwuify to spigot

[unkempt jackal]

my brother installed an ecobee recently

I walked over to the little screen on the wall and i think it realized that I was staring at it and I was scared so I went away and ignored it

[molten egret]

lol

anyone got a copy of the mit licence with the # comments already added 😆

[radiant mantle]

How can I make my farms run when I’m not in the chunk. I tried keepchunks and forceload command but those didn’t work.
I want my honey and sugarcane farms to work even when I’m thousands of blocks away

[golden gust]

You'd need a plugin or something which does that

[ruby lark]

what linux distros yall use for hosting mc servers

[molten egret]

ubuntu

[ruby lark]

thinking of using centos with wsl but want second thoughts

[golden gust]

Literally doesn't matter, just ideally stick to something debian based

[molten egret]

why

why would you run it in wsl?

[true canyon]

I just go for debian because there's never any updating to do 😄

[radiant mantle]

I tried keepchunks it didn’t work

[golden gust]

Well

[ruby lark]

cus i use windows as my main

and have to for certain apps

[golden gust]

clearly if it didn't work, the plugin doesn't do what you want it to do, or you didn't configure it do that

[ruby lark]

cant switch

[molten egret]

yeah then run it natively

[golden gust]

farms require a player entity to be nearby, no escaping that part without manually ticking chunks

[molten egret]

wsl is for compatiablility

[ruby lark]

doesnt debian make servers run faster

or nah

[molten egret]

not when it's running on wsl

[golden gust]

Don't think that theres too many chunk loading plugins which do the fake player thing

[ruby lark]

makes sense

[golden gust]

Distro for the most part is irrelevant

[true canyon]

Most linuxy server distributions are going to work about the same in terms of performance. As long as it's not one that has desktop stuff built in that you're remoting in to.

[golden gust]

They're all generally bundling the same stacks or there about, your biggest bet for debian is that they're generally more caring to keep stuff updated vs cent

but, then again, cent is a rolling release now so god knows

[true canyon]

Flashback to my community in 2012 custom building a kernel once to get an estimated +1% performance over the default.

[lilac moon]

debian is very minimal on fresh install which can be a good thing and a bad thing

[lilac moon]

that's the linux community today

or at least the like arch/gentoo kind of group

[ruby lark]

this is why i hate linux mfs

[golden gust]

hey, mbax

[ruby lark]

they do the most weird shit like that for no reason

[golden gust]

did you disable HT?

[lilac moon]

i dont really care because they're free to do whatever they want

that's what linux is for

[true canyon]

Of course we did 😄

[lilac moon]

where's that one meme about like a scenario where you have to do a presentation at school but your minimal kernel doesnt have the right drivers so you install the mainline one and it still doesnt work and then someone uses a windows laptop and it just works

[molten egret]

lol

[golden gust]

Yea, but

it's the year of the linux desktop

[molten egret]

except windows updates mid way through

[lilac moon]

well i'm not finding that today

[ruby lark]

same thing

[lilac moon]

oh yeah similar

basically the same idea

gimp is a 💀 moment but i cba to pirate photoshop

[molten egret]

also does hangar work for uploading plugins yet?

[true canyon]

Nah, that was 2007. It's over now.

[golden gust]

RIP gnome 2

[lilac moon]

2007 was the year of the nissan gtr

[molten egret]

Also can I append someone’s name onto the license file if I stole their code and I am re releasing it under the same license?

[true canyon]

Uhh.

[molten egret]

Both mit

[true canyon]

What license, define "stole", and whose name is being appended

[molten egret]

I took code from their GitHub

[lilac moon]

it wouldn't be stealing then

[molten egret]

From the fabric uwuify

[molten egret]

"Nafiul Islam" is the name of the person

[golden gust]

Well, theres no like, hard rules on how best to deal with that

generally people either isolate their code off to a class and shove their license header on it

or add a // Author comment

etc

[molten egret]

Their code is in a different package

[spare venture]

you could ask tthem

[molten egret]

They don’t have anything linked on the hub

I might stick their license file above the class header in the class I stole

[vague lagoon]

have to*

(pretty sure)

[unkempt jackal]

my server resource pack makes all zombies look like Morbius and I just made a plugin that adds chat messages for killing/getting killed by zombies like this: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/539582763385225226/988620411233267772/unknown.png

this is so awesome minecraft is so cool

[true canyon]

it was not morbin time

[potent wedge]

Just don't credit and credit when asked

[golden gust]

people generally like having credit for their work, even if not legally required

[molten egret]

https://github.com/treecaptcha/uwu

best plugin

welp there goes my whole future

can't get a job after I started a class name with a lower case letter

[unkempt jackal]

is logger better than system.out.println

[molten egret]

yes

always

[silver nexus]

That is perfect.

[molten egret]

ty

[jade flax]

gg

[molten egret]

that's so old lol

[jade flax]

a core team candidate would never

lmao

[molten egret]

release a pack?

I think the bigger issue is that my class name in the plugin starts with a lower case letter

[jade flax]

No, I am giving you a hard time with the spelling mistake

and that too

[molten egret]

yeah I noticed that a while ago

ok I fixed

[coarse lily]

A core team member definitely wouldn't ask about stealing someone else's code and relicensing it, though.

[molten egret]

it's the same licence

also I stole it with permission

[coarse lily]

You asked about removing their name.

[molten egret]

no

[coarse lily]

And said you couldn't find them to ask permission.

[molten egret]

I asked whether I should put thier name with mine on the root licence file

[molten egret]

yeah I couldn't

[coarse lily]

So then it isn't permission, is it?

[molten egret]

and I did

[molten egret]

ehh they licenced it

[jade flax]

sigh

[molten egret]

https://github.com/Ran-helo/uwu/blob/master/LICENSE

[warm anchor]

Sir you may wanna actually understand what permission means

[upbeat falcon]

Permission Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/permission

Kids Definition of permission. : the approval of a person in authority I have permission to leave early.

About 1,620,000,000 results (0.41 seconds)

[warm anchor]

[jade flax]

😉

[molten egret]

but the licence would give me permission?

Permission is hereby granted, free of charge...

[vague lagoon]

if you keep that license there yes

[molten egret]

yeh

I put it there

my repo has thier name in the licence file

[jade flax]

license is everything

[molten egret]

and I copyied their licence into the class I stole

also the licence is in the config.yml that gets copied on startup

[jade flax]

it may be worth while providing a link to the code

"@author Ran" is very vague

[molten egret]

that's from their file

that's the javadoc they put lol

[jade flax]

I know, but you want to add the link

and the license isn't even on that file

[molten egret]

wdym

it's at the top

in a block comment

[jade flax]

It is?

[molten egret]

you have thier code open

that's their repo

mine is https://github.com/treecaptcha/uwu/blob/master/src/main/java/io/github/ran/uwu/client/Uwuifier.java

[jade flax]

herr der