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magic river
spare venture
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at work we were having some contractors repair a sewage line on our property

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we did a one call and the city marked up some lines and left

molten egret
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is curse down?

spare venture
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fucking hit an irrigation line and an electrical conduit with an excavator. city doesn’t mark private utilities lmfao

molten egret
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lmao

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how would the city know

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wait maybe they should

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do they charge you for laying out the markers when you call 811?

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I've always wanted to call the number on the signs

void void
molten egret
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yeah I got a timed out by cloud flare

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wait it's up

spare venture
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basically i don’t know wtf they do, but i always call a private company that will come on with a ground penetrating scanner to ensure that there’s no obstructions in the path of excavation

molten egret
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how often are you excavating?

spare venture
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this happened in february, the city came in to replace our water meter and they didn’t locate properly lmfao

molten egret
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oh yeah I remember when a contractor yeeted our lawn watering thing

molten egret
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isn't that just shut it off

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replace the meter

spare venture
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they hit a 2 inch line, looked like striking oil

molten egret
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lmao

spare venture
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they hit a different line

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more like 3” line iirc

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dumbasses

magic river
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I guess the power factor correction in my power supplies works pretty well

molten egret
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a wat

magic river
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Desk has a power factor of 0.92

molten egret
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de wha

magic river
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In electrical engineering, the power factor of an AC power system is defined as the ratio of the real power absorbed by the load to the apparent power flowing in the circuit. Real power is the instantaneous product of voltage and current and represents the capacity of the electricity for performing work. Apparent power is the product of RMS cur...

warm anchor
spare venture
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low power factor is bad

spare venture
warm anchor
magic river
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If you had a power usage of 100W but a power factor of 0.5 your actual power usage would be 200W, sort of

warm anchor
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No one but themselves to blame

magic river
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The power company has to use power to correct your power factor

spare venture
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electrical companies can penalize a low power factor too

magic river
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They only penalize commercial and industrial here, they just eat the cost for residential

spare venture
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yeah, my plants pays like $200/mo due to a low power factor

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correcting it would cost too much, it’s cheaper to just eat it

magic river
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Commercial and industrial users pay based on apparent power, residential pays for active power

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Switching to a smart power meter at home also means the power company can now track your power factor on a house by house basis

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So they could in theory charge you for it

spare venture
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gross

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but it makes sense

void void
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most of them were holding allay eggs because I was spam clicking, it works for giving their AI a full working test though

magic river
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Laptop battery is charged and my monitors are in sleep mode, this is more representative of my desk's "idle" state although usually that wouldn't have the laptop connected at all

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Down to 100W

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Unplugged my laptop, thinking that dock isn't very efficient because now it's down to 50W

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Laptop max should only be around 50W when I'm running a power virus on it

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At 50W I don't feel too bad about leaving my desk as-is since my desktop is also my media server right now

unkempt jackal
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50 watts isn't that bad

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of course idk the power costs in your area

vernal moth
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My provider just lowered my rate by 4ct, I can't complain, lol

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They got a good deal on a wind plant that they are repowering

pastel reef
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I got an old Computer from my friend half a year ago with an AMD FX-4100 and an Nvidia Geforce GT 710. It runs Minecraft at about 80 fps in Vanilla most of the time with 10 Chunks Render Distance but it turns out to be overclocked to 6 GHz, how would performance change if I was to clock it back down to its standard to save energy?

twin lagoon
vernal moth
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Oh a bulldozer

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Those were some hot garbage 😂

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I used my fx-8350 as a space heater

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Those CPUs are a scam, AMD advertised double the cores

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They lost couple of lawsuits over it, I got 50 bucks back

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If you underclock them (they were pretty much designed to be extremely overclocked to get any decent performance) I don't think you gonna have a good time

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But like, try it and see

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Mine ran at like 6.5ghz on all "8" cores

novel horizon
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I wouldn't really run it like that

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I had 6200 and it was not that bad though

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I mean sure it wasn't great, but it was okay for me at that time 🤷‍♂️

vernal moth
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Is energy consumption really an issue tho? Did your dad complain? ^^

unkempt jackal
ashen cliff
vernal moth
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Yeah something like that

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I mean, I did enjoy using it, it was a beast at its time

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And really cheap

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The name was really fitting, it was as loud and hot as a bulldozer, but it got any job done

gilded raven
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why are so much mc related servers rainbow colored

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someone realy launched a lgbtq campaign?

lament patio
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June is pride month

gilded raven
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i see...

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kool

spiral robin
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@warm anchor

potent wedge
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Why do we even need a pride month, never jn my life have I seen somebody who doesn't like lgbt

novel horizon
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lol

vernal moth
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Wanna see our ban list for the past two weeks? 😂

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It's full of homophobic and transphobic idiots

potent wedge
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O

novel horizon
silver nexus
vernal moth
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Is Texas one of the states that ban using the word gay? 😂

silver nexus
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I'm in "Liberal" Texas too...

potent wedge
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Gay is used very lightly where I am

vernal moth
potent wedge
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Actually yeah I have noticed nobody's hair is dyed (to unnateral colors atleast)

novel horizon
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I mean I wouldn't try that in some communities

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not like you need to even provoke them more

potent wedge
novel horizon
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well

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i wouldn't try that either

potent wedge
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Well is communism against that kind of thing, or for it?

worthy geode
worthy geode
potent wedge
solar pumice
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does anyone know of any paper plugins that extend view-distance such as bobby or distant horizons?

spare venture
lament patio
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Well ... There's view-distance

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The setting

solar pumice
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yes, but i’m looking for one which allows a greater view distance but doesn’t render far away chunks in a lot of detail in order to optimize performance

novel horizon
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Just install the mod then

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If you explore the area then it should show it

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There's no plugin like that

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And definitely not for view distance 512

golden gust
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I mean, bobby is a client mod

novel horizon
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Yeah, you can just use it

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As a player

golden gust
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because it caches stuff the server sent to it

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servers can only set a view distance limit up to the same limit as the clients max limit

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You're not gonna get more chunks than that unless you found a mod and a plugin which works together

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But, that's why people just use stuff like bobby which uses a cache

unkempt jackal
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Bobby does let you increase the actual render distance beyond 32 in single player (like actual render distance without caching). That makes me wonder what would happen if you ran Bobby on a fabric server

novel horizon
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lol

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I just said, as Optifine did, if you explore the area it will show it later as it should be cached (as cat said too)

golden gust
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Bobby is literally a client side only mod

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The server/client have hardcoded logic to only allow upto a 32 chunk radius

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You'd need to strip out all of those limits and generally blow up memory usage of the server to a level nobody cares to deal with

warm anchor
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Cannot imagine the horrid if client can load 32+ chunks on demand PepeLa

smoky cloud
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You'd get Bedrock

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96 chunks shudders

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A 3090 can't take it

ashen cliff
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Good old Android edition.
Render the full map on a dual core 🥔.
But god damn, that 🥔 was overclocked and on 🔥.

knotty iris
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does TCPshield have a support discord?

novel horizon
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can you just look at their website? bottom of the site? ^^

worthy geode
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imo

timber ice
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I like small accents

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But fully colored it looks bad, maybe it's just cause of the people that usually have it tho

spare venture
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everyone can have their own opinion

timber ice
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Thanks party

unkempt jackal
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is there an equation for total rendered chunk count from set render distance? I though that, for example, if you have a 10 chunk render distance, that would mean a square of 20x20 chunks would be rendered around you meaning 400 total chunks, but the minecraft wiki says 441 total chunks

smoky cloud
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[(View Distance +2)x2+1]^2

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Thanks Paper-chan

golden gust
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I don't even have a diagnosis, cos, like, even though my mother suspected I had issues, she never bothered to get me tested, etc; (and, long ass todo list, hate using the phone, etc, etc, etc)

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but, I feel oddly called out to all shit there

potent wedge
potent wedge
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Like this is a emoji

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But not this emoji_1

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Why

simple garden
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is it possible to disable the enderdragon & wither from being able to be spawned in certain worlds so i can have a world that is free from them and others they can be summoned in?

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im using MV that is why i ask

magic river
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I think WorldGuard can do that

simple garden
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flags here i come

vernal moth
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so if anyone wants to toy with stuff, now is your time!

simple garden
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i found a 2018 post

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thank you for the worldguard idea woohoo

void void
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alright, time to break shit

void void
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nice login page

vernal moth
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lemme fix that

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kek why am I not an admin

lament patio
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TIL this exists

void void
vernal moth
mild rune
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webauthn Woggy

void void
worthy geode
warm anchor
lament patio
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Huh, interesting

mild rune
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it's very handy for sites that support it

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and supporting it is basically adding webauthn to your site

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then you also support touch/faceid and windows hello if you choose to enable it

vernal moth
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should all work automatically

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hangar even allows you to sign up using webauth, so your account will not even have a password

mild rune
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I'm glad they've made it so easy to adopt because it makes it easier for more sites to implement it

vernal moth
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and then you can ontop of your webauth 1st factor, add a totp as 2fa 😄

mild rune
warm anchor
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Tell my bank still doing SMS auth

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Tell my State BMV still using my last 4 SSN as identifier

void void
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After opening a user page as the first page, you can't navigate to other user pages

vernal moth
mild rune
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Tell most institutes using SSN as an identifier

vernal moth
warm anchor
mild rune
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Safari and iOS 16+ will let other devices using their new passkey thing too

vernal moth
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does passkey work with webauthn?

mild rune
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Ye

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Pops a QR code up in safari

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that I just scan with my phone

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"Do you want to save a passkey for 'placeholder'?" on ios 16

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I'm assuming you've just not named it yet lol

unkempt jackal
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chrome lets me use my android phone as a security key

mild rune
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Ye, which is pretty nice ngl

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I use my yubikey for my desktop and then just touchid on my macbook

worthy geode
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meanwhile I just signed up with a password because I never heard of that security key thing and it seemed complicated kekw

mild rune
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Passwordless is the future sunglassmush

worthy geode
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it might benefit from a text explaining it in the finished auth UI, im sure im not the only one

mild rune
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until you run into a legacy app that doesn't support a passwordless account Madge

worthy geode
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its legit the first time ive seen this, there must be a lot of legacy apps kekw

mild rune
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Tbf, a lot of services support them but don't let you sign up solely with them

unkempt jackal
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this is my first ever passwordless account

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I think it is pretty nifty

mild rune
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Microsoft for instance, you can turn off your password on your account but you need one to sign up and a lot of apps don't support it.

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I found that out when I did it on my account and like 5 minutes later had to turn it back on

worthy geode
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now time to find something that is usable enough to upload to hangar

unkempt jackal
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so if I ever lose access to my security key that I use for hangar, would I just have to get access through my email inbox?

mild rune
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probably

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Most still let you do password resets if your account is passwordless iirc

vernal moth
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try it on hangar, lol

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idk what will happen

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only enabled passwordless last week

worthy geode
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I like the org feature, thats a nice idea

vernal moth
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it was a hard requirement

unkempt jackal
vernal moth
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just email needed I guess?

unkempt jackal
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yeah

magic river
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It's a thing, sadly

real saddle
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i need a help

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i want to dlt this file

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in linux terminal

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but its showing like this

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go it

unkempt jackal
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I understand now that the Paper plane lands in the Hangar

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That is cool

upbeat kelp
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does oracle cloud support debit cards

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im pretty sure its trolling me

lilac moon
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it should but idk i used a credit card

warm anchor
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Opt for them to call you too if they offer that.

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Just tell them you are interested in their product for your project / you are currently and IT related student etc etc to avoid the usual sales talk.

upbeat kelp
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ah ok

upbeat kelp
warm anchor
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now hope you can get the ARM instance PepeLa

upbeat kelp
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thank you for verifying your details and entering your credit card number

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unfortunately we cant take money from your credit card

mild rune
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I still remember when oracle terminated my account the day after I signed up

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Good times kekw

upbeat kelp
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why cant oracle take a normal pill and just use phone number verification

golden gust
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Because phone numbers are easy to fake?

warm anchor
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yeah

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I mean once you get around all the initial bs

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you kept it forever (for now)

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I still got mine from last year.

jagged egret
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Hypothetically would it be possible to wire up a HVAC system so the blower fan runs all the time

upbeat kelp
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yeah?

jagged egret
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Just moved into a new apartment and the only air conditioner is in the front room. Which does a fat lot of good because there's zero air circulation, so the bedrooms never get cooled. The central HVAC only works when set to heat

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(no fan only, no cool mode. Confirmed there are only two control wires from the thermostat, so that's the intended design even though it's literally the dumbest design)

upbeat kelp
real saddle
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i cant find paper.yml in 1.19

crystal lilyBOT
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Where did paper.yml go?

In 1.19, paper.yml has been split into two files, both in the config directory. In paper-global.yml you will find configuration that changes behavior of the whole server, and in paper-world-defaults you will find configuration that can be overridden on a per world basis. See https://docs.papermc.io/paper/per-world-configuration for more information on overrides. The function of server.properties, bukkit.yml, and spigot.yml remains unchanged for this time.

real saddle
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how do i add antixray and random seed

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in 1.19

jagged egret
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Not sure what you mean by random seed, that's vanilla, no? And anti x-ray is in the paper config as described above

clever jungle
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sussy

real saddle
warm anchor
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generate-random-seeds-for-all

real saddle
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icant find that option

golden gust
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that's in the world config

real saddle
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this thing right?

golden gust
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yes

real saddle
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??

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k

warm anchor
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make sure what you are doing before touching it

real saddle
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ys ik

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idnt need locate command

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just need to get rid of seedcrackers

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and i can only antixray for overworld there

golden gust
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The thing shouldn't impact locate command

real saddle
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someone said to me idk

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when i askd abt seedcrackers

real saddle
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icant find nether antixray there

golden gust
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Well, it's applied to all worlds.

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Like, it's literally the default

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it works the exact same as it did before, just per world configs are now stored in the folders of the worlds

real saddle
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but i need enginemode 2 in nether and enginemode 1 in overworld

golden gust
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Soooo

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Set mode 2 in the nethers world config?

real saddle
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let me check

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how do i comeback to a folder opend before in linux terminal?

golden gust
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if you mean the parent folder, ..

real saddle
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not main folder its like randomfolder/minecraft-1.19/config i want to cm back to minecraft 1.19

golden gust
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So.

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You mean the parent folder.

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So, literally cd to the parent folder

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which, linux magically places a .. node which points to that folder

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so, you can literally cd ..

arctic cape
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My server has soooooooooo many errors after updating to 1.19

golden gust
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there is no "back" thing unless you have a shell which supports that.

arctic cape
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and one of the error that is so annoying is "Incomplete set of tag recieved from server" Can someone tell me what this is

warm anchor
golden gust
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stuff like that generally screams bad plugins

warm anchor
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oh use Vanilla client @arctic cape

golden gust
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(or a bad client, yea)

arctic cape
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Vanilla Client ?

warm anchor
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try that if that fixes it,

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if not go for cat's suggestion above about plugin.

arctic cape
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You mean players cant use lunar salwyr and stuff

warm anchor
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yeah lunar has issue

arctic cape
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Hmm ill try

warm anchor
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that's not paper issue

arctic cape
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Okie

real saddle
golden gust
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In the nethers world.

real saddle
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i cant find

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go it

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got*

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can t find nothng in this file

golden gust
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Yes.

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It literally says that.

real saddle
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do i need to copy paste

golden gust
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It literally works the exact same as before

real saddle
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i never touched this file before

warm anchor
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hence why it is empty

real saddle
warm anchor
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yes

golden gust
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Once again

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it's the default config

lilac moon
golden gust
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it applies to all worlds

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I literally ALREADY went over this

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oh, never knew of that one

warm anchor
golden gust
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bro

lilac moon
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lmao

golden gust
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~ go brr

lilac moon
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remount home partition as /media/user/home/

golden gust
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I'd mount ur ~/..

warm anchor
golden gust
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licks eternity

warm anchor
past cloud
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?!?

thorny totem
mental meadow
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Rie is actually Eternitys ideal self

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understandable

golden gust
warm anchor
golden gust
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mfw, ofc eternity has one

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no tail doe, 0/10

warm anchor
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I am not @static badge chatting

mental meadow
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who needs tail when you have ahoge

warm anchor
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Ok general chat is too cute now

golden gust
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OML, THAT BACKGROUND

warm anchor
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Lmao I remember that

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OMEGALUL so dark

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Still one of the best horror show

golden gust
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Oh god, I still remember how I introduced my friend to that show

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"Hey, ever seen somebody deep an umbrella?"

warm anchor
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I think that was the biggest shocker

golden gust
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Defo still in my top 10 shows

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Not that I have much of a list to go off, tbqh

warm anchor
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Same. Top x show for sure AYAYARie

lavish compass
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@warm anchor weeb

warm anchor
arctic cape
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Guys i have smt to ask

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why do i see this

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PLAYER sent expired chat: 'message'. Is the client/server system time unsynchronized?

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in the console whenever someone sends something in chat

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Can someone tell me why please ?

golden gust
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generally exactly what it says

mental meadow
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I'm guessing thats what happens when a player sends a message with a key that isn't valid anymore? Usually because time/date are wrong, either for the player or your server. Make sure your server and players have accurate time

golden gust
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bad clock somewhere

arctic cape
mental meadow
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your system time

golden gust
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the computers clock

arctic cape
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Oh.

mental meadow
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If your players computer things it's 10:45am, but your server thingss it's 10:49am, stuff like that happens

golden gust
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The server checks that the message was sent within the past 5 minutes

arctic cape
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So this problem can be resolved by my hosting company ?

golden gust
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ofc, if the computers clock is too far behind, or, more generally, the servers time has drifted forwards, it will be expired

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if it's a clock drift, yes

mental meadow
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I'd first tell your players to make sure their system time is accurate

arctic cape
mental meadow
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for me windows has the tendency to drift off, even though it shouldn't. Right click on your clock in the taskbar, go to the settings, and there should be a "Synchronize now" thingy

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Well in that case talk to your hoster^^

arctic cape
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it didnt happen before it only started since when i updated to 1.19

mental meadow
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yes, 1.19 introduced that feature

golden gust
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Because it was a new feature added in 1.19 which is sensitive to the system time

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as many other dozen things are in cryptography

arctic cape
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Thanks for helping btw i have one more issue that i want to know about

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Whenever someone joins my server

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The server kicks them with a message "Incomplete set of tags recieved from the server"

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Why is it ?

golden gust
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bad client or bad plugins

arctic cape
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"bad plugins" means the plugins that do not support the server version ?

golden gust
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basically, yes

arctic cape
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Oh, Thank You !

vernal moth
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This is fun

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Google advertises the German 9 euro ticket

vernal moth
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Partyyyyy

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They blocked one of the biggest streets here for a festival celebration modern transport

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Aka everything that isn't a dum car

novel horizon
vernal moth
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Lol

mental meadow
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ah yes, homophobia but funny

vernal moth
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How is that homophobic? Lol

novel horizon
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I mean it is kinda weird

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"haha pride flag when he dont like gays" or 🤷‍♂️

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idk

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clown makeup with that

visual egret
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because in london google maps is generally awful for public transport

vernal moth
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What's citymapper?

visual egret
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it's a navigation app primarily for public transport

vernal moth
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Our public transport has public apis they google hooks into

visual egret
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loads of people use it here, personally i use it to get anywhere

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also imo less confusing

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less cluttered + more useful

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it also shows where you are during a journey which google maps doesn't do, personally got lost like that once

gray briar
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I am looking for a dev

twin lagoon
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not here

visual egret
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the only time i've really had issues with it was when i had to get somewhere not in london, it doesn't really like the non-tfl busses, but google maps worked for that

vagrant marlin
charred sleet
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normal buses are a pain in the arse

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they just come whenever they want pretty much

visual egret
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yeah, i noticed the schedules weren't exactly great

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i wish tfl expanded past london, stuff like a nation-wide oyster card would be very useful :p

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otherwise we're still stuck with buying tickets or using a railpass

gray briar
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I am looking for a dev

visual egret
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then go hire one

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fiverr, spigot forum thing, (minecrafties?)

gray briar
void void
visual egret
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i just gave you 3 places to find one

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not here, rule 4 is a thing

molten egret
mossy relic
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help

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just me or shaders are really broken rn

warm anchor
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Works fine for me (?)

mossy relic
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would it be my drivers then?

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because my motion blur is messed up

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and there are so many artifacts in like the ground and shadows

worthy geode
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nvidia? nvidia drivers 516.40 break them

warm anchor
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You using optifine (?)

mossy relic
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yes

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lunar client

mossy relic
worthy geode
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they do

golden gust
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nvidia?

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break shit?

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waaaaaahhh?

mossy relic
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amd user:

warm anchor
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Never PMA

mossy relic
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i just bought a 1060 aswell god sake

worthy geode
vernal moth
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It even says stuff like "get of next" into my ear when I am wearing headphones

worthy geode
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even the DB app does that, at least as a notification

worthy geode
warm anchor
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Ewww

mossy relic
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invite me in dms please

worthy geode
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discord has a server search, and google is a thing as well

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OF still hasn't updated to 1.19, wow

warm anchor
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Fabric > optifine

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Fabric > lunar client

topaz mortar
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Any plans to move all worlds into a sub dir as well?

worlds/
   minecraft/
      world/
      world_nether/
      world_the_end/
   multiverse/
      farm_world

🙂

worn ember
warm anchor
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Ded horny

spice plinth
worthy geode
topaz mortar
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MM my day

golden gust
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bloody MM

worn ember
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i love how "theres a MM PR for it" is a legit meme now kek

foggy silo
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Because there usually is

spice plinth
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Clearly too powerful to be left alive 😂

worn ember
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well yeah thats the point xD

golden gust
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gonna block him from the org

worthy geode
#

everything not covered by MM is covered by Owen though

golden gust
#

Just prod him once in a while, plz rebase

foggy silo
#

Only one person takes 90/213 PRS

worn ember
#

now if only the core team got off their asses and merged them blaze

worthy geode
#

just merge all of them at once, without testing, im sure it will be great

foggy silo
#

Paper but it's every merged PR currently in the queue:

worn ember
#

Yatopia

warm anchor
#

Just give me perm I will merge them all untested PMA

golden gust
#

Hey, I was approving stuff

#

MM shoved a ton of stuff back on

#

that bloody guy

worn ember
#

i didnt even test my plugin for 1.19 but seeing the metrics said there were 1.19 server i just added "tested on 1.19" blaze

warm anchor
#

Smh

worthy geode
#
  • cries in PR #4722 *
#

probably dying of old age before that ever gets merged kekw

foggy silo
#

Make sure to wish your PRs happy birthday

golden gust
#

Yea, I just, don't like it

worn ember
#

i get email from issues cuz it got marked as stale, and then i got another email cuz cat removed the stale tag blaze

worthy geode
golden gust
#

that PR

#

looks leaky

worthy geode
#

but its so useful. only reason I use protocollib is that 😦

foggy silo
#

stinky leaky prs 🤨

golden gust
#

useful, but kinda broken

foggy silo
#

I think there's a better place to put that

golden gust
#

Problem is that you need to handle other stuff

#

i.e. the actual entity tracker

foggy silo
#

Entity#startSeenByPlayer Entity#stopSeenByPlayer

#

Used by the wither for example to send the bossbar

golden gust
#

plus effects such as sounds

worthy geode
#

hmm, yeah, that seems like a better place to me as well (its not my PR)

foggy silo
#

Oh wait u can cancel them

#

🥶

gray briar
#

how do I make a lobby in the same server

worthy geode
#

that defeats the purpose of a lobby

#

but, just make an extra world I guess?

gray briar
#

my dev who I paid alot bailed scammed me

#

I confused

worthy geode
#

im now confused as well

gray briar
worthy geode
#

using a multi world plugin like Multiverse

molten egret
gray briar
spare venture
#

yes use multiverse

native wolf
gray briar
vague lagoon
#

google

gray briar
gray briar
spare venture
#

dude stop pinging me please

upbeat falconBOT
gray briar
#

sorry : (

crystal lilyBOT
#

To download old versions of Paper, click here ➡️ papermc.io/legacy ⬅️ and fill out the questions. Note that old versions are completely unsupported and contain numerous bugs/exploits.

visual egret
#

this is a very stupid question but does anyone know a server I can mod that still works worth the vanilla 1.5.2 client, idc if it’s supported, as long as I can mod it 🤷 . I know I can’t use anything bukkit based because that stuff includes mojang code

onyx cape
#

we have paper, paperclip and paperweight
now if papermc had to make another software what would they call it

visual egret
#

well, what would it do 🙂

onyx cape
#

do we finally get pencil

visual egret
#

hangar

#

oh wait that’s already a thing

visual egret
proud lance
fast siren
#

hi people, help me please. there is an options file in the game folder. it has the line gamma:1.0 . I write gamma:100.0 and in the game gamma is set to 1.0. why? it's only at 1.19

worthy geode
#

Because that is a value between 0 and 1

#

0.1, 0.2, 0.3 etc

timber sentinel
#

In 1.19 the game will set the option back down to the in game maximum on startup

fast siren
timber sentinel
#

There's a fabric mod that unpatches it somewhere on cf / modrinth

onyx cape
#

but I know for sure that they redid the config system so maybe its a side effect of that

fast siren
potent wedge
visual egret
#

.g gamma mod fabric

limber knotBOT
visual egret
#

^

#

magic

potent wedge
#

Who tf is MiniBot and is it using the irc

abstract aspen
#

Is AreaShop still the goto way for renting regions to players?

abstract aspen
topaz mortar
#

Like a lot of things that are Mini.

potent wedge
#

The IRC says (477) #paper :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services

mental meadow
#

Yeah

#

As it says^^

gray briar
#

how do I paste my custom map for multiverse

warm anchor
warm anchor
# gray briar i tried

Import (?) also reading is a necessary skill to host a server if you can’t read, I suggest you to just play on someone else’s server

limber knotBOT
#

Hi!!!!! I got it working :)

#

It working!!!

#

How tf I change my name

#

E

simple garden
#

Any1 know of a time based event plugin where you fight waves of mobs and the longer you survive the more you get rewarded?

simple garden
void void
#

@upbeat falcon

simple garden
# gray briar i tried

Example...

/mv import cheesestick normal

That will import a world named cheesestick that is an overworld

#

Normal can be replace with nether or end

limber knotBOT
#

@codex is it called zombie survival I found one on forge

simple garden
#

I don't have a fab or forge server

limber knotBOT
#

Its bukkit so it should

simple garden
#

Cool googling it now. Thank u

limber knotBOT
simple garden
#

Haha thanks I keep getting zombie apocalypse

#

So slight question. So I have a mini game that spawn a ender dragon into an arena for players to fight, how do I stop the dragon from leaving the arena lol?

#

It phases through the arena blocks lol

molten egret
simple garden
#

So there is no way to contain it to a arena without killing it?

golden gust
#

well, you could make your own custom class with its own behavior

#

but, you're generally gonna be contending with the things current behavior

#

which, iirc, generally aims to keep it kinda close to its POIs but is not exactly surefire

limber knotBOT
#

I don't think it phases through obsidian barriers(the block) or end stone but this needs testing first cuz im dumb

simple garden
#

i am gonna try using barrier blocks in a offline world and see what happens

#

before i build it in my main world.

#

building arenas by hand is a pain in the ass xD

limber knotBOT
#

Yeah lol

unkempt jackal
#

Higanbana is an AI so they could build it for you easily

limber knotBOT
#

Your mother acbot

#

Don't bully our bots

#

your mother is a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries

twin lagoon
#

can't tell if that's a fake cat or not

mild rune
twin lagoon
#

could've been cat

limber knotBOT
#

They are cat in our hearts

#

Yes

mental meadow
#

[14:23:02 ERROR]: This crash report has been saved to: /root/cracked/./crash-reports/crash-2022-06-19_14.23.02-server.txt
roundnthonk

mild rune
limber knotBOT
#

/cracked????

unkempt jackal
#

That folder is goated, cracked, poggers

magic river
#

Fun, looks like the whole neighborhood lost power for like 10 seconds there

#

That or the neighbors stopped playing music the same time my whole house went dark 😛

void void
#

did they remove per-world seeds in 1.19? tried moving the single player level.dat on the left onto a server and starting it and it didn't change

magic river
void void
#

mojang, who else

#

this isn't a paper feature

magic river
#

Mojang has per-world seeds?

#

Oh, right, in the datapack made dimensions

void void
#

yeah they started it in 1.18

magic river
#

I don't understand what I'm supposed to be seeing in that first screenshot

void void
#

left is a 1.19 level.dat, right is a 1.18

magic river
#

Is the right 1.18 singleplayer?

void void
#

they're both server

magic river
#

Vanilla server?

void void
#

yes

magic river
#

Huh

#

Then go away 😛

#

I mean, you just said you're asking for help with a fork, in a channel not even meant for getting help

plucky plaza
#

Is the InetSocketAddres unique for every minecraft client?

magic river
#

The object should be, the address might not be

#

The IP:port pair has to be

#

Why did this turn in to help chat? 😛

plucky plaza
#

bc there is no genral mc help chat here

#

hmm

#

ok

magic river
#

Because that's not what this server is for 😛

#

General MC help is for the general MC discord

#

Forge help, Forge discord. Fabric help, Fabric discord, etc

golden gust
#

what do you even mean, "renamed the server"

void void
#

that's a plugin issue

magic river
#

If I know who you are, the answer is easy, or it sounds like an interesting problem I might answer anyway

#

But you shouldn't expect help in here

golden gust
#

change the filename of the server makes 0 sense

lilac moon
#

like thje name of the folder the entire server is in?

plucky plaza
#

So, it's possible for multiple clients to have the same ip and port and still be able to connect. I thought the port was different on every minecraft client running on the pc

lilac moon
#

how is that even possible to do anything

golden gust
#

same IP and Port, well, no

magic river
#

It is not possible for multiple clients to have the same IP and port, this is a fundamental of the internet

lilac moon
golden gust
#

Drop your attitude

magic river
#

Go fuck yourself 🙂

lilac moon
#

guys calm down

plucky plaza
rare python
#

How long untill they get banned

magic river
#

No, you can't spoof the port

lilac moon
#

i dont quite understand

plucky plaza
#

yes, client port

golden gust
#

basic nature of TCP

#

the connection needs to know where to send stuff back to

lilac moon
#

yeah i dont know enough networking to know how the client port is picked, but also how would that do anything to spoof it

golden gust
#

so, no, you can't really spoof IP/Ports with TCP

lilac moon
#

like what would the goal be

spare venture
#

networking is magic

golden gust
#

however

spare venture
#

science cannot explain it

golden gust
#

many things such as proxies will spoof that data to the app layer

#

i.e. so that web servers can see the origin's IP/port when using a website, even if they're routing through cloudflare

lilac moon
#

yeah

golden gust
#

same for bungee, it sends the players connection info to the backend server

#

with an insecure backend server, people can spoof that and send whatever, and the server will log that spoofed IP, as that's what it's been modified to do

magic river
#

An ephemeral port is a communications endpoint (port) of a transport layer protocol of the Internet protocol suite that is used for only a short period of time for the duration of a communication session. Such short-lived ports are allocated automatically within a predefined range of port numbers by the IP stack software of a computer operating ...

lilac moon
#

thats all done on a higher level though isnt it

plucky plaza
magic river
#

Usernames cannot be spoofed

plucky plaza
#

the only info I know is their ip and their username

lilac moon
#

the usernames shouldnt be spoofed as long as you have online mode and info forwarding set up properly

magic river
#

You can't trust IPs to be unique or unchanging

plucky plaza
golden gust
#

bearing in mind that for many in the world, stuff like CGNAT is becoming the norm, that entire thing starts falling apart

magic river
#

Right, the server can't tell anything without Mojang auth

#

Because you can't count on IPs or ports either

#

The port is random every connection attempt and with proxies or CGNAT the IP is too

plucky plaza
#

The username is supplied by the client, the port and ip on the other hand is supplied by the tcp connection i think

magic river
#

The username is verified by Mojang though so it's fine

#

You just have to wait until after that before you can say anything for sure about the connection

plucky plaza
#

Yea, about that

magic river
plucky plaza
#

That wait. Is why I need to keep track

golden gust
#

keep track between what?

#

different user sessions? best you've got is the IP

plucky plaza
#

There is a gap between events

golden gust
#

and even that is getting more and more unreliable as days pass

magic river
#

There is nothing you can count on to keep track of

plucky plaza
#

PreLogin and Postlogin events.

spare venture
#

biometric scan them to ensure they are the correct person

#

require ssh keys

plucky plaza
#

I need to know if the same player triggerd the postlogin event is the same as the one that did the prelogin

spare venture
#

2fa

magic river
#

I can make my IP different every connection with a little effort. If I was on hotspot through my phone it would be different almost every time without having to do anything. If I was connecting via IPv6 I could have an entire /48 to pick an address from each connection

#

There is no way for a different player to trigger these events

plucky plaza
#

I mean, You can't make it the same as another persons

magic river
#

If a different player did it they'd have a different connection

plucky plaza
#

Ok, and that's 100% sure

#

Like you can't be extremly lucky and be on the same ip and then get the same port

golden gust
#

I mean, you're pretty much never gonna get the same port unless you sit around trying all day

magic river
#

Unless they're on the same ISP and the first player disconnected after the first event, and the second player somehow got lucky enough to get the same client port, confused your software with a second prelogin, and you did a bad job of verifying the connection object

plucky plaza
#

hmmm

magic river
#

Hint: You want ==

plucky plaza
#

Ok, so I can store the InetSocketAddress object I got from prelogin event. Then when PostLogin event fires, check if InetSocketAddress is the same object?

magic river
#

But yes

plucky plaza
#

It's actually Velocity. But to be honest, I thought I would get better support here bc not everyone checks #velocity-dev

#

Thank you

magic river
#

You said you tried changing it though?

void void
#

yeah, i'll check again after I upgrade my main server and see

#

that's the one with the right .dat

magic river
#

The other options would be they only support it for datapack-created dimensions or they don't support it at all anymore

#

The second one would be weird, they're trying to have less distinction between vanilla content and mod/addon content

molten egret
#

would it be possible to run a server at 10tps just like double each thing that happens by 2

magic river
#

Err, first one that message, I mean the only non-vanilla support it would be weird

#

If you run at 10tps but run all the tick logic twice that just makes your server feel weird, it wouldn't save CPU time

molten egret
#

why not

#

make sheeps move at double thier current speed but only tick them at 10 tps

magic river
#

Running selective things twice or doubling their effect and running them once sounds like the kind of thing you end up stuck on 1.8 forever for because it's too large of a patch to keep up with updates

molten egret
#

lol

lilac moon
#

run the server at 40 tps and run everything at half speed

limber knotBOT
#

20+ TPS is chad

magic river
#

10 TPS would guarantee your server is PVE only though

#

Minigames would probably be jank as hell and even fighting zombies would suck

#

Everything would basically be moving in a series of small teleports

potent wedge
#

It's because everything would be moving slower but when they do move it would be 2x the speed

magic river
#

I could maybe see something like that working for a bingo server or something

real saddle
#

does feature seed really hlps against seed crackers?

magic river
#

20 TPS is already a joke for any kind of PVP FPS

magic river
#

Lets talk about how burritos are superior to tacos instead

warm anchor
#

It’s been 5 seconds, I demand my question to be answered”

warm anchor
magic river
#

They got rid of my favorite role

#

Gotta get it back 😄

limber knotBOT
#

Tacos aren't superior to burritos end of sentence

warm anchor
silver nexus
real saddle
#

i saw players finding 1 team like 6,7 ancient cities i have command spy enable isaw one of them telling to other we need to find strong holds asap and his replay im near strong hold and he never had endereyes

#

idnt have evidance to punish

magic river
#

Watching the Yankees on one monitor, idle/incremental game on the other along with Discord, and my laptop for reading web novels, my desk is using 200W

real saddle
#

generate random seed turnd on

#

ya but i need

silver nexus
#

I'd say their activity was reason enough for punishment, too much luck likely isn't luck.

magic river
#

Blue Jays are putting a pitcher in for his MLB debut against the Yankees

#

I guess they either hope he'll confuse them or want to see how he does with failure

limber knotBOT
#

Blue Jays or Yankees who won

magic river
#

Yankees are up 6-3, top of the 6th

frank otter
#

mlb is baseball right?

magic river
#

Yeah

limber knotBOT
#

Ye

magic river
#

Higashioka just got a home run, 7-3

real saddle
magic river
#

It only helps if you set it before generating the world

warm anchor
#

Let me take a guess you never change spigot structure seed @real saddle also yes use #paper-help

#

This is taco vs burrito channel EmaBkr

mild rune
#

why not both

drifting aurora
magic river
#

Chimichanga fan? I can get down with that

drifting aurora
limber knotBOT
#

Aren't you the person who sent the message?

drifting aurora
#

Here, I found this for you all burritos/tacos lover if you guys want to use the message

unkempt jackal
#

To be fair, ancient city generation is predictable

#

Just find a mountain and dig down

drifting aurora
real saddle
magic river
#

Isn't the feature seed for trees and ores and such?

warm anchor
#

Yeah

plucky plaza
#

bot moment

warm anchor
#

He didn’t change structure seed

magic river
#

If you don't change the structure seed they can use the biome map to crack the world seed and then find all the structures, right?

warm anchor
#

Yup

#

They just won’t be able to use the worldseed for ores as that’s part of the feature seeds

magic river
#

And you have to regenerate your world if you change the structure seed too

unkempt jackal
#

Does that affect ancient city generation as well?

magic river
#

It's a structure so hopefully

warm anchor
limber knotBOT
#

Paper chan :)

warm anchor
#

You can also use different seed for end and nether to make it extra fun

magic river
#

Did you get a new dedicated domain for the paper stuff?

real saddle
#

ppl hunted bastons

warm anchor
#

Yeah and I did away with Wordpress

#

Now has dark mode Hype

real saddle
#

like 10 20 bastions

warm anchor
#

Those are also structure seed

#

You will likely need a new map

#

As you didn’t follow the step completely

magic river
#

generate-random-seeds-for-all used to cover everything but then spigot added structure seed support, right?

warm anchor
#

Spigot had it before

#

So paper didn’t include it so it doesn’t create a nightmare

#

Spigot one is not randomly generated so you have to manually change it

drifting aurora
#

@warm anchor Oh great…. Your server just ruined me….

#

Now I’m constantly thinking how a AI/Cyborg creep should look like

warm anchor
real saddle
molten egret
#

5

magic river
#

Anyone doing anything for Father's Day?

molten egret
#

studying for my exams

#

so I can take my exam on a federal holiday

unkempt jackal
#

I'm going to dinner with family later

limber knotBOT
#

nom

#

nom

true canyon
#

@potent wedge please don't deliberately impersonate moderation bots 😉

limber knotBOT
#

:(

#

Thank you for renaming.

warm anchor
#

You get off easy tbh. Most place will probably yeet you out for that lol

true canyon
#

I just won a match on us-east, @warm anchor

warm anchor
#

On a weekend

true canyon
#

unranked

warm anchor
#

You are very brave

true canyon
#

very! 😄

warm anchor
#

Average iq of player drops by 50 pts during weekend

twin lagoon
#

@true canyon

true canyon
#

Taking half a year off got me down to awful unranked equivalent mmr, and climbing back is not gonna be fun. If I even can. Maybe I'm just getting too old!

twin lagoon
#

what in the stackoverflow is this codestyle

true canyon
#

pos4wink

lilac moon
quiet mesa
warm anchor
#

You lane’d with tiny?

simple garden
#

So what do yall think about my NPC that will be ruling over my battle arena lol

true canyon
#

Laned with tiny, and storm just had some early mistakes because they were too eager to engage sky

warm anchor
#

Yeah very strong combo with tiny and you

true canyon
#

my best move was really close to the end gifting the tiny a moon shard so they could slap down the final barracks

warm anchor
#

I guess the troll and dazzle wasn’t having fun at all

true canyon
#

They tried! They lost.

warm anchor
#

That’s an automate jungle troll for me and maybe swap pugna safe idk

#

Your team lane is just better imo PepeLa

true canyon
#

🥳

drifting aurora
silver nexus
#

Herobrine has feelings too :(

rare flame
rare flame
twin lagoon
#

wtf do you mean it's normal

lilac moon
rare flame
#

like, putting brackets in new line is pretty common

#

mby not in java

frank otter
rare flame
#

it’s not

#

valid

frank otter
#

I think it's more popular in older codebases? not sure

lilac moon
#

its crazy

rare flame
#

stroustrop’s c++ style has that as well as linux style

frank otter
#

I thought to check the Linux code base and the kernel seems to use this style

#

maybe it's a C thing

spare venture
#

there are different formatting styles that people follow

frank otter
# lilac moon its crazy

I might be wrong but I remember somewhere that it makes grepping source code easier? I can't quite remember

#

I'm probably wrong but it's not impossible

lilac moon
#

actually i would think it's slower because it's one extra line to go through

frank otter
#

I guess it just means you don't have to like sed away extra brackets or whatnot if trying to pretty-print symbols or something

lilac moon
#

it probably makes no measurable difference in performance in anything

rare flame
#

imo it’s just a convention, the original java coding style document said to put brackets on the same line as definition

shell kelp
#

Where i can find rich american guy?

frank otter
#

there's probably some like archaic justification for it but I can't think of any

rare flame
#

it just looks better

simple garden
frank otter
#

no matter how hard I try I just cannot seem to agree with your opinion

#

brackets on same like are better because then you don't just have one line with nothing but a bracket on it

#

why would you want that

rare flame
#

no no no, dhdhshdbf

frank otter
#

eh maybe my perception is jaded by normally using languages that encourage that

rare flame
#

i personally like having brackets on the same line

#

just pointed out its a pretty common codestyle

#

to have them on newlines

frank otter
#

it is. not sure if it looks better but it's quite common

#

ig I can live with it but I wouldn't want to write it

#

all my snippets are set up for same-line brackets iirc

daring laurel
#

Does there exist context based linting?
or maybe theres a better solution
basically I'm trying to make a custom ktlint rule that will always insert argument names, but theres no way for me to know what the actual name of the argument is, since I'm only ever aware of the structure of the document, So I can never autocorrect

simple garden
#

for worldedit how to i popup grid lines so i know the box i am editing

lilac moon
#

you can use the worldedit cui client mod

#

theres also like a server side cui command which uses structure blocks but its limited to like 48x48x48 or so and it sometimes disappears

simple garden
#

does fabric have it?

lilac moon
#

yes

simple garden
#

thank you

lilac moon
#

idk if it has 1.19 but i remember using it on 1.18.2 fabric

simple garden
#

so i have worldedit on my server, will the cui still work since my worldedit is server based

lilac moon
#

yes

simple garden
#

that 1?

lilac moon
#

yeah

simple garden
#

i am only asking cause it doesnt say fabric

#

thank you

lilac moon
#

this is the page for fabric worldedit cui

#

it requires fabric api btw

#

it says that on the main description page

simple garden
#

i have fab api

#

@lilac moon

lilac moon
#

nice

#

it is pretty bright

simple garden
#

the first link you sent me works like a charm on 1.19 😄

lilac moon
#

oh nice

simple garden
#

yeah it is cause i am using astra shaders

#

with doku

lilac moon
#

its bright on vanilla too

#

also that action bar makes me think of hypixel skyblock 👀

simple garden
#

that is what it looks like for default players

lilac moon
#

huh

simple garden
#

AureliumSkills

#

great plugin if u ask me

#

only thing i am not a fan of is the number health & mana

lilac moon
#

wtf like the same as hypixel

#

is it a copy of hypixel or is hypixel a copy of it, or neither

simple garden
#

idk ive never played hypixel lol

#

i am gonna check it out now that you mention it haha

twin lagoon
dapper pumice
# simple garden

Which shader or engine is that?
For me for example the cui shows op with enabled optifine only on internal shaders, BSL and others are bugged and won't show the selection

simple garden
#

Iris

#

i dont use optifine anymore, not since my love for iris/sodium

magic river
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LTT just had a video title card say "UwU I'm so Kwumsy"

sleek fog
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UwU

dapper pumice
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Thanks @simple garden for the hint with iris

simple garden
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Iris wants to give your cat pic some cat nip lol

dapper pumice
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Have enough cats and pics 😺👍

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But yeah, that orcish cat is special

simple garden
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What launcher do you use?

dapper pumice
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Multimc

lilac moon
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polymc

simple garden
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I've never used polymc

lilac moon
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its multimc but the dev isnt as crazy

simple garden
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there are the mobs i use that stable my game

dapper pumice
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Ah thanks for insight

simple garden
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i am waiting on highlighter and iceberg to update hence why they are checked off

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and this is all 1.19

unkempt jackal
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Are we sharing mod lists?

lilac moon
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it doesnt fit on one screen

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but theyre bigger for me

simple garden
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capes... O.o i want a cape

lilac moon
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heres mine on 1.18.2

dapper pumice
simple garden
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yeah

magic river
simple garden
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i am using the 1.18 version lol

lilac moon
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do i have the most mods

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26 total

twin lagoon
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concurrent chunk management engine

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very many players

dapper pumice
twin lagoon
lilac moon
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what do those do

twin lagoon
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yatopia-fabric

lilac moon
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thonk

simple garden
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i gotta do a mod show off more often, more mods i can check out lol

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if i use the cape mod will others not using mods see my cape?

dapper pumice
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So many have lazyDFU 🤔 what does that? In short

lilac moon
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it makes the startup a bit faster iirc

dapper pumice
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Hmm ok

lilac moon
simple garden
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LazyDFU is an optimization mod that makes the initialization of DataFixerUpper "lazy" - that is, it will not immediately create the rules required to migrate data from older versions of Minecraft to newer versions until it actually needs to do so. It does not modify DFU and should be safe, but do exercise more than the usual caution.

The premise of LazyDFU is simple: most of the time, you will not need to convert data for every version of the game. As a result, DFU rule compilation occurs later, when the game is already up and running. This means it is possible you may see lag spikes if LazyDFU forces the game to compile migration rules, but once complete there is no performance penalty.

frank otter
twin lagoon
lilac moon
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bobby is a fun mod name