general

[plucky plaza]

If you know what I'm trying to do

[magic river]

Do you have more than 100 of them and/or need to look them up several thousand times a second?

[molten egret]

pain

[magic river]

Uh, why are you trying to use bash to run a batch file?

[lean kiln]

see the pins in #paper-help

[molten egret]

it works fine

it's an old script

leme go get java 8

[lean kiln]

.

[magic river]

woo they made the Steam Deck only render at 720p or 800p on external monitors

For games, at least

[visual egret]

why?

[molten egret]

running smoothly

[visual egret]

is it some overworking prevention type stuff

[solar pumice]

not sure if this is the place to ask, but does anyone know a good seasons plugin for paper/bukkit?

[novel horizon]

what seasons

[solar pumice]

summer spring autumn and winter

[novel horizon]

huh

i thought you were kidding or just meant smth else

[lilac moon]

found one for 1.8.8

💀

[novel horizon]

You can find some plugins but idk

[solar pumice]

😭

[novel horizon]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/seasons.39298/

Plugins won't be that good, mods sure

[visual egret]

what kind of server is this for?

[novel horizon]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/realisticseasons-1-16-3-1-19-seasons-in-your-minecraft-world-with-temperature-and-calendar.93275/ 👀

[visual egret]

just a just for friends type server or something real

[solar pumice]

just for friends i guess

[visual egret]

this one looks good then

[solar pumice]

thanks

[lilac moon]

half the images on that plugin page dont even work

[solar pumice]

shoot that costs €10

[novel horizon]

Yeah lol

I was just posting

Most paid plugins aren't great

[solar pumice]

yeah

[novel horizon]

Also I have all the images there just fine

NotJosh you can try looking at the one before, idk 🤷‍♂️

if youd like some nice friends server i'd look for mods

[novel horizon]

there's mods for almost everything

[lilac moon]

weird

[worthy geode]

not open source :/

[lilac moon]

well paid plugins generally tend to be closed source so

[solar pumice]

yeah

why buy when you can compile

[novel horizon]

there's plugins that are open source and paid

[lilac moon]

most people wont compile but still

[novel horizon]

but if you pay you get updates sooner and better support

[worthy geode]

You pay for support, to get compiled versions & because you like them

[lilac moon]

yeah

[worthy geode]

but tbh my main issue is that a lot of plugin don't even give you the source when you pay

[novel horizon]

i mean paid plugins are not bad

[lilac moon]

but not everyone thinks that way

[worthy geode]

which is technically not legal with the license requirements

[lilac moon]

what license is required?? and by who

[unkempt jackal]

How would seasons even work as a plugin

[novel horizon]

Plenty of ways, just read the info on the plugin for example

[solar pumice]

great ping

[unkempt jackal]

localhost

[lilac moon]

not 0ms too slow

[worthy geode]

Bukkit is GPL. GPL also covers stuff that uses Bukkit. GPL requires source code access

[lilac moon]

oh that must be like how i remember learning that gpl infects dynamically linked binaries

kinda dumb

[worthy geode]

well, the goal of that license is more free software, makes sense

It wouldn't even prevent people from making money with their plugins, commercial usage is fine. But apparently Spigot does not care about the source code part of it

[lilac moon]

imagine if glibc were GPL instead of LGPL so every single program had to be GPL, or be statically linked

[pale hinge]

hi guys, is it possible to setup voice chat alongside tcpshield antiddos protection? i remember i had issues earlier with these two but maybe you guys know how to get these working

[golden gust]

You'd need to speak to TCPShield or the voice chat provider thing

chances are you're either gonna have to see if you can host the voice portion externally or something

[pale hinge]

okay, thank you

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/PceSiNXG-2022-06-18_01-53-36.png

Here, have more work bro.

[worthy geode]

can still control it with perms so whatever

[novel horizon]

lol

funny tho

[ashen cliff]

Hey remember threads?

[novel horizon]

I mean threads sounded pretty nice to me

but idk

its weird

[ashen cliff]

The main problem is moderation.
The idea is alright, but god damn.

[novel horizon]

Yeah

[worthy geode]

the UI is just bad, for both

[novel horizon]

I really liked the idea

Yeah, that too, UI is a bit weird

Also archiving and so kinda weird with it

[worthy geode]

its there on the right side, making everything on the left smaller, idk

[ashen cliff]

Still very much interested in why they added the account switcher...

[worthy geode]

why not? its useful

[ashen cliff]

To who?

[worthy geode]

people who have hit the 100 server limit like me

[ashen cliff]

Buy Nitro.

[worthy geode]

why if I can just make another account tho

also, I know of quite a few people who use it to have a "public" and a "private" account

[ashen cliff]

I think you see the issue here.

[novel horizon]

how do you have 100 servers

like why

[worthy geode]

especially in game dev when you have an official discord for your game that is nice

[novel horizon]

whats the point

not like you talk on all of them do you

[worthy geode]

no, but I read announcements in them and stuff

[ashen cliff]

Like, the feature mostly exists for people to not buy Nitro... their "only" way of making money and corpos.

[novel horizon]

i just point their announcements mostly to my server and read that, but 100 servers announcements or even 50, damn

[worthy geode]

well, not everyone is announcing something every day

[ashen cliff]

It's not like you can't aggregate announcements.

[worthy geode]

also I just have like 10 for uni alone because the people there keep on making new discords for some reason

[ashen cliff]

Some reason.

[worthy geode]

yep. why are there two discords for the same esports team, and both are actively used? nobody knows

[ashen cliff]

Simple. 1 person had to get removed, without them noticing.

So you make a new group, without them, slowly transition to the new one.

[worthy geode]

that slow transition is taking them over a year now

[ashen cliff]

Very slow.

[potent wedge]

🥶

[unkempt drift]

how do I get macos to open jar files with a jre installed via sdkman? I'm kinda annoyed ive got to go to the command line just to open certain apps

[molten egret]

a what

just run them

install a normal jre

like openJDK

[unkempt drift]

ive got jres

I dont need more

ive got like 4 of them

[molten egret]

ok

right click then run?

[unkempt drift]

not showing up as an option

[molten egret]

why are you side loading jres

[unkempt drift]

I can launch it with smth called JavaLauncher but then it says I dont have java installed

[molten egret]

answer this

[unkempt drift]

cause I do it that way on my other computers

sdkman on my wsl, and linux machines

and I'm pretty sure theres a way to get it to work here

[molten egret]

just install java like a normal mac user

go to the adoptium site

download

install

then sit back and run your jars

also why does the computer switch cores mid way through?

did the original core get too hot and slow down?

[unkempt drift]

I just dont want to install more things than I have to. And I'm sure there's a way, I just don't know it, and google isn't being very helpful

ive already got java installed. multiple versions, works great for everything else

[molten egret]

maybe this??? https://www.imore.com/how-set-mac-app-default-when-opening-file

[unkempt drift]

yeah already tried that

it wants an actual .app to open it with

the bin/java executable is grayed out

wont let me select it

[molten egret]

then make an app package

ehhh this seems complicated

O I have a (bad) idea

[unkempt drift]

got no idea where to start with that. and it also seems needlessly complicated. there has to be a way to point JavaLauncher to my already installed jres

[golden gust]

tried a symlink in the standard java install place?

[molten egret]

make a python script that passes all args to an instance of java use the special package that compiles to .app

[unkempt drift]

have not. gotta find where that would be

[golden gust]

/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines

that's generally where java installs belong

The way macOS manages java is honestly kinda fucking ass

[zealous wedge]

hm you might be able to force associations with applescript?

[unkempt drift]

another reason I just wanted to use sdkman and forget about it

[golden gust]

bahahahhaaaaa

cute

[unkempt drift]

did a symlink, so its like /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk17.0.3/ and inside there is /bin and stuff

but don't think that worked. idk if ive gotta log out or whatever

[molten egret]

what's the equation to find the aproximate number of primes bellow a number?

[upbeat falcon]

reliable formulas/algorythms to find approximate number of primes ...

https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/80310/reliable-formulas-algorythms-to-find-approximate-number-of-primes-up-to-a-value

Nov 8, 2011 ... (A) A formula/algorithm for the approximate number of prime numbers up to a number. Example: let's say that I wanted to know how many primes ...

About 20,800 results (0.45 seconds)

[potent wedge]

@molten egret okay that's annoying

[molten egret]

;-;

it's fun

[molten egret]

thx

whats the java thing for log

[magic river]

I wouldn't use Python for making a .app, unless you want to ship a Python install

[molten egret]

Math.log();?

[jade flax]

google exists....

[molten egret]

you can bundle it

[jade flax]

it is an EXTREMELY useful tool btw

[molten egret]

arl

[magic river]

Right, that's what I said

[molten egret]

yeah

the tool does that for you

[magic river]

Shipping a whole Python install just for a start script seems.... bad

[molten egret]

ehhh

[jade flax]

yeah that's bad

[molten egret]

I think it's trimmed a bit

[magic river]

10MB for a thing because you're too lazy to remember some JVM arguments or write a bash script 😄

[unkempt drift]

haha! got it

automator to the rescue

so I did end up making my own .app

[potent wedge]

Why does Mac have .app

[magic river]

Oh yeah macOS uses zsh by default because GPL3

[unkempt drift]

I think the issue is that sdkman sets the JAVA_HOME variable only in certain environments

[unkempt drift]

cause I tried it without setting JAVA_HOME and it didnt work

said it still couldnt find a JRE

[golden gust]

maybe

[unkempt drift]

oh actually I set JAVA_HOME in my .zshrc, not sdkman

[magic river]

Probably only in your shell, not in the finder environment

[unkempt drift]

if thats literally all apples JavaLauncher app is looking for, where do I set that to make it available everywhere?

[molten egret]

so it's still not done?

[golden gust]

/etc/paths.d

or, no

er

[magic river]

If you want to set variables that are available in GUI apps you have to use /etc/launchd.conf apparently

Since Mavericks

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/135688/setting-environment-variables-on-os-x/588442#588442

[molten egret]

if all of my code is in one method will the hot spot thing ever hot spot it?

[golden gust]

method bodies which are too large will screw with the runtime optimisation stuff iirc

[magic river]

The level of optimization you get depends on how often your method is called and how the code in it is written

[molten egret]

so

[magic river]

Too large and it just bails to the interpreter though, yeah

Or it used to anyway

[molten egret]

all of my code is in one method

it gets called a single time

[magic river]

It never even sees a JIT

[golden gust]

then it's literally irrelevant anyways ^

[molten egret]

ok

so my algorithm could be running way faster

[magic river]

It runs once

[molten egret]

yeah one while loop

[magic river]

Hmm, I wonder if loops count toward triggering the JIT

[molten egret]

it gets executed about 10million times

[magic river]

You know what would make it run even faster? Write it in something other than Java

[molten egret]

my other option is python

anyways it's a joke program from 2 years ago

[magic river]

If it's number crunching and you use numpy well enough it would be faster than Java

[molten egret]

at that point I could just port it to C

it wouldn't be that difficult tbh

[magic river]

I wouldn't wish C on anyone

[molten egret]

just find the simmilar code in c

[jade flax]

So you write it

[golden gust]

for some reason, fwiw, I literally instrumented JavaLauncher, and it looked at all the plist info files for all the jdks installed in /Library and inside my home folder

so, das interesting

[unkempt jackal]

papermc runs pretty good in the linux environment on a chromebook

[molten egret]

arl found an online converter and it works

probs needs alot of optimisation

[jade flax]

okay?

[molten egret]

ok

thx for da inspiration btw

[limber knot]

kinda annoyed that the bot doesnt pick up my profile pic

[molten egret]

use discord

[wraith trail]

you have a space in your name, pretty sure it is only exact match

[unkempt drift]

yeah figured that was the issue, dont think you can do spaces on irc tho

[molten egret]

how does one connect to the irc

[limber knot]

one does not connect with irc, irc connects with you

[magic river]

It's on esper

[limber knot]

When I put pronouns in my name I lost my avatar

[lilac moon]

whats the irc channel

[magic river]

Guess 😄

[lilac moon]

papermc?

[limber knot]

should be #paper for this channel

#paper-dev and #paper-help for others

[lilac moon]

that makes sense

oh is it not libera

i went into #paper on libera and its empty

[magic river]

.

[lilac moon]

o

[limber knot]

the Minecraft Network (don't stab me mbax)

[lilac moon]

i should get an actual irc client

[upbeat falcon]

Usage - Matrix IRC Bridge

https://matrix-org.github.io/matrix-appservice-irc/latest/usage.html

Some bridges, such as matrix.org, will connect you to IRC and join you to a ... IRC is not capable of relaying E2E messages to IRC clients and as such the ...

About 127,000 results (0.38 seconds)

[lilac moon]

oh cool matrix

[limber knot]

the irc bot should attempt to replace spaces with underscores... its open source right? the bridge bot

[magic river]

Oh they turned off the esper bridge in 2019 when matrix got hacked

[lilac moon]

i uised to have a matrix homeserver

[primal solar]

So manyAIs

[limber knot]

a

took a moment to get registered

goodbye

[drifting aurora]

I shall now call you bobot

[void void]

where do I hire someone to become a dev for my server?

[lilac moon]

yeah i love thje name bobot

[drifting aurora]

Does bobot sound better? Or does bobabot sound better

[lilac moon]

bobot

[drifting aurora]

Or maybe babot?

[jagged egret]

so i discovered if i change my major, apparently I can graduate a year and a half earlier

[drifting aurora]

What about Babao…. It sounds like Babot, but it’s also the name of a food… so it kinda match up with boba

[lilac moon]

no

[drifting aurora]

But….but….butbutbut

[lilac moon]

what is that

[drifting aurora]

babao

[lilac moon]

true

[molten egret]

how tf do I use a client

[shy eagle]

What would you be changing from or to? If your not planning to go to graduate school then not really matter much to change majors.

[jagged egret]

Right now my major is in my school's applied computational mathematics program; I'd be changing to just the mathematics program. And I'm planning on getting my Master's in math which I could do either way

[spare venture]

what are you planning on doing?

[magic river]

Sad times: ```
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
1353 root 20 0 1874792 1.6g 6136 S 0.0 42.4 17:17.81 omiagent

[drifting aurora]

Sadder

[magic river]

Oh, to fix it I have to enable a "third party" repo, fun

I mean, it's a VM on Azure so calling an Azure-specific repo third party doesn't seem quite right

But their VM images didn't have it in there by default, lame

[drifting aurora]

I can’t even read it

Sad

[magic river]

Just count the columns and see what one looks bad 😛

[golden gust]

Going for the real microsoft experience

[magic river]

...I don't want to run this code on my VM anymore

https://github.com/microsoft/SCXcore/commit/803cd18e290a64556468a6f866ba36e75f0ebe5d

Problem is, either these are getting called more than once or this isn't even the actual bug. This is using more memory than you need but what I see is slowly growing memory usage until a get alerted on three devices that my server is about to die

[nocturne dust]

hey,guys

how much dollars should pay for a cola in American

[lean kiln]

walmart

I know you're chinese so there's the great firewall, but don't you need a vpn just to access discord? So you can search things like this

[nocturne dust]

I use Google's Chinese search.

No suitable results were found

[lean kiln]

I just went to walmart.com and typed in "coke", safeway or target or something would work too. amazon will sometimes have weird prices for this type of stuff

[nocturne dust]

I just want to know the percentage of the monthly income of an American family's 1000m network bandwidth through the price of Coke.

We don't apply to Amazon.

[lean kiln]

you lost me there, translator probably messed up (I don't understand)

[warm anchor]

[nocturne dust]

It means that I want to know the economic gap between the people of the two countries through the global product of Coke.

[drifting aurora]

Ahhh…back in China a dollar could get me three cans of coke

[nocturne dust]

I can use up my monthly salary to buy 1142 bottles of 300 ml coke.

[terse kernel]

cause almost everything is made in china

[drifting aurora]

I just checked

[nocturne dust]

So how many bottles of coke of this size can you buy in the United States with your salary?

[warm anchor]

standard quality of life is not only about the money you can earn to buy coke but also other things that may lead to your personal happiness.

[drifting aurora]

2.85USD is enough for 12*200ml coke, free shipping within China

[daring laurel]

maybe this is a dumb question but why are the kotlin dsl gradle samples repo on github archived? https://github.com/gradle/kotlin-dsl-samples

[nocturne dust]

Why do you seem to know so much about China?

[drifting aurora]

Because I used to live in China

I was born in Hong Kong

[nocturne dust]

Why do you know I am Chinese?

[drifting aurora]

Oh I thought you were talking about me

Phew

[nocturne dust]

When you were in Hong Kong, did you have a meeting on the evening of June 4 every year?

[nocturne dust]

Can we communicate in Chinese?

[drifting aurora]

Let’s say no

And I prefer not talking about that topic in public

Let’s not bring up anything political related

[nocturne dust]

你可以看得懂简体中文吗？

[drifting aurora]

And anything controversial

[warm anchor]

This Discord is English only @nocturne dust

[drifting aurora]

This server is English only

The two rule here

1.English only

[nocturne dust]

I'm sorry, I just said that to him.

[warm anchor]

You can do so in English, you already acquired the knowledge of how to use VPN, you can use real google to search whatever hot topic you feel like on your own private time with the help of Wikipedia. Dont push for topic people dont feel like discussing

[drifting aurora]

Three basic rule you gotta learn at this server

1. English and English only

2. Don’t ask for ETA

3. @warm anchor is mineeeee

[nocturne dust]

How to add a picture as a meme? In this software.

[drifting aurora]

You do notice this is discord and not QQ….right…?

It meant “not bowing down toward the evils”

Basically called us “evil”

Lol

[warm anchor]

"enemy factions" will be better word here but yeah dont do that either

[drifting aurora]

Agreed

[lean kiln]

from talking to you previously

[drifting aurora]

I’m pretty sure this was a term used to describe America back in the days

[warm anchor]

it's just a real dumb meme dw if he does it again, I will do something

[drifting aurora]

They called basically all non-communist-con “enemy forces”

[nocturne dust]

Let's take it easy.

I'm not talking about politics.

[drifting aurora]

You brought it up

[nocturne dust]

I'm just asking the brother a question.

There is no tendency to perpetuate it.

[warm anchor]

dont ask question that you wouldnt ask your mother on dinner table is a pretty good way to tell if it's something you should say or not

[drifting aurora]

I wouldn’t mention PaperMC on dinner table

LOL

[silver nexus]

I have multiple times-

[drifting aurora]

@warm anchor found it #gifs-and-memes

I’m probably gonna delete it once you see it

[nocturne dust]

Why can't see huaji here?

When men chat together, how can there not huaji?

[warm anchor]

!warn @nocturne dust This Discord uses English, this means your entire message should be written in English.

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Warned ztpillow#0384 (This Discord uses English, this means your entire message should be written in English.) [1 total infraction] -- EterNity#0001.

[drifting aurora]

@warm anchor I just thought of a really nice place to put Rie

[nocturne dust]

oh you are a bad guy

That's just a proper noun, it can't be translated.

[warm anchor]

exactly. You should use English in English discord. The guideline can be found in https://papermc.io/community-guidelines

Also that's a really poor lie because there is definitely a word in English for that.

[nocturne dust]

no, you don't know it

[drifting aurora]

Agreed, even google translate showed tons of results

[nocturne dust]

But they have different meanings.

It's like a green hat.

The literal meaning is different from his own meaning.

So in this respect, it must be translated as a proper noun.

[drifting aurora]

Just don’t say it then

It doesn’t make it easier for us to understand if you pronounce it using pinyin

In fact, it makes it harder

[nocturne dust]

But it's better than a deceptive translation.

He at least maintained his rigor and authenticity.

[drifting aurora]

Trust me, it’s not

How the heck are we suppose to understand WTH huaji meant

It’s like there is a word in Japanese that you don’t know

And eternity just spelled it out for you using romaji

IT DOESN’T HELP

[nocturne dust]

I don't want to debate this with you here, and I personally feel that you have a malicious tendency towards me.

goodbye

[drifting aurora]

Oh well

[worn ember]

🍿

[warm anchor]

[drifting aurora]

@warm anchor How does this Rie look

[warm anchor]

That’s gonna be really hard to read

[drifting aurora]

Agreed…. Maybe the other one helps

[drifting aurora]

Still painful to read… but who can say no to a Rie

[autumn spear]

why does Oracle still make Java 8 the default download for MacOS 😛

:/

[golden gust]

literally the default for all OSes

[autumn spear]

Yet 17 is so much better in so many ways, and required for a lot of apps

Just installed 17 on my MacBook, server boots 3x faster than my i7 and renders chunks 2x faster

[golden gust]

I mean, we where surprised when the java website got a visual facelift from the thing it looked like for the past god knows how many years, right in 2022

God knows when, if ever, they're gonna update the java version on their site

They don't even really ship java builds anymore last I knew

[drifting aurora]

Surprise❌ Shocked✅

[drifting aurora]

Unfortunate that older Minecraft versions doesn’t support 17

[ashen cliff]

Well. Actually. Debian has JDK 11 as default. 😎

https://posili.me/i/THHUVFVH-2022-06-18_10-01-13.png

Epic.

[golden gust]

openjdk, and through your package manager

the java site will still offer you 8

dummo

[ashen cliff]

Psss. Don't ruin the fun.

Their first mistake was going on Oracles site.

[worn ember]

tf does oracle even do these days

[ashen cliff]

Ask their legal team.

It's mostly government contracts and hosting.

[worn ember]

lame

[ashen cliff]

The only reason we get free ARM cores, it's because they need some 🐀s to test their new BS.

[golden gust]

They do enterprise stuff

Like, pretty much all of their $$$ is from commercial contracts

gotta pay for that team of lawyers, you know

[worn ember]

who even hires oracle like wtf do you hire them for?

[golden gust]

JDK support

[worn ember]

just dont

ezz

[ashen cliff]

Can't always avoid them...

[golden gust]

When you have large ass scale JVM deployments, you generally wanna ensure that you have support contracts there for the "oh shits"

[worn ember]

can avoid them by not using java

[ionic island]

wait, did they really update the page that we download Java? as in design?

[worn ember]

go check

[ionic island]

oh my god they did

[rocky torrent]

How does Hypixel quickly transfer players between servers? for example, the "Loading World" screen does not appear.

[golden gust]

I'd imagine, they just "teleport" the player

Not really complex, especially when they modify the server and the proxy, etc, etc

[vernal moth]

the loading screen is a hack added by bungee to reset the client state

if you can properly manage client state, you don't need it

[golden gust]

Like, if you don't have to deal with stuff like dimension changes, ^

[vernal moth]

and can just send one dimension switch instead of two

[twin lagoon]

1.18.2 adds a forced 2s loading world screen to the mix aswell

i imagine 1.8 is just gonna be so fast that you won't see the screen

[golden gust]

if your dim data is consistent and such, don't even gotta deal with that

which, given they rely on 1.8, is like, yea

[vernal moth]

just install kennys mod zzzZZzzz

[twin lagoon]

yeah no the dimension switch screen is still a thing on hypixel

[golden gust]

Yea, I mean, avoiding doing it twice is always good

[twin lagoon]

hypixel could probably pull it off though since they don't anything special

[golden gust]

less state fuckery

etc, etc

[worn ember]

hypixel not doing anything special
truer words never have been spoken

[balmy berry]

Hello, I'm experiencing a really weird bug with paper 1.18.2 and I thought someone from this discord could help

Any chat link that gets sent via a command does not work, but chat links that get sent by a person with the proper permissions do work

[novel horizon]

So what's the bug, did you reproduce it on clean paper server with no plugins?

[balmy berry]

Yes

[golden gust]

Yea, iirc spigot ripped out that thing a while ago

at least for plugins iirc

100% on plugins to properly handle URLs now

The conversion was added by craftbukkit years ago after mojang removed it with the component stuff

md removed it from the plugins call, iirc

[balmy berry]

Is there a way to fix it?

Cause chat links are quite necessary for a server to run properly

[golden gust]

or, wait, should still be there for legacy sendMessages

depends on the plugin

[balmy berry]

LuckPerms, Tebex, nuVotifier and CustomCommands

[balmy berry]

Is there a way to make links from these plugins work?

[golden gust]

well, I know LPs editor command URL works

So, if you're having issues like that I'd be weary about other plugins mangling it

[viral hornet]

heyyyyyyyyyyyy fat @quasi valleyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[quasi valley]

?warn @viral hornet crimes against existence itself

[viral hornet]

please stop abusing me

[golden gust]

don't act like you don't love the attention

[coarse venture]

have a nice weekend everybody, except martin, martin's gottah work on hangar.

[ashen cliff]

Random friend invite, nothing shared.
As always, this about to get good.

[faint crystal]

HANGAR WEN ?!

[simple garden]

is there anyway to run a command in console like restart that will restart my server?

instead of shutting it down and turning it back on

[golden gust]

I mean

restart?

[tropic flame]

does restart work on a headless environment?

[golden gust]

yes

[tropic flame]

what i find is that (at least on windows) it spawns a new terminal instance

[golden gust]

it literally just runs a script on shutdown

[tropic flame]

okay

cuz i figured you can't really just spawn a new command prompt if there's no window manager

but alright

Windows shenanigans ig

[simple garden]

When I type restart in my consol it just shuts it down

[golden gust]

OS?

do you have a start.sh file? have you checked the logs?

Also, recommended script for *nix in pins

[tropic flame]

probably not this channel's pins though

[golden gust]

yea, in -help, meant to say

[frank otter]

just https://startmc.sh no?

that is the right site right

what the heck I updated my android client and now everything looks completely horrible

[simple garden]

Win10 and no I don't know what the start.sh is lol

[golden gust]

oh, glhf

[simple garden]

I just have the normally 1.19 paper server going.

Do have to make a start.sh for the server folder?

[golden gust]

start.sh doesn't work on windows unless you're using one of those *nix environments

[simple garden]

Hmm. Is there away to do it without start.sh

[golden gust]

well, it can run a bat file

[simple garden]

What can the start.sh

[golden gust]

No.

the server can with /restart

[simple garden]

So typing in restart should have worked for me then?

[golden gust]

if configured..

[simple garden]

Ohhhh

[golden gust]

you'll probs need to set the restart-script in spigot.yml, idk if it defaults to a sane value depending on the OS

[simple garden]

See I never mess with the spigot.yml lol.

I am checking it out now

this?

how come?

where do i find the sh script so i can edit it

r u talking about the run.bat file

i dont have a sh file

yeah i know i want to use ubintu

i think i spelled that wrong lol

but i want to use a less resource hog OP cause win eats my res lol

[golden gust]

If using linux, see the pins in paper help

If windows, use a go-to loop in your start bat

[simple garden]

oh i didn know paper offers linux help, thats good cause i suck at installing linux

[golden gust]

(and then make sure that restart-script points to a none existent file)

Er, more we have a pin covering that specific thing

Some Linux help is often provided but there is a level of expectations here

[mellow quiver]

codex, what do you usually get stuck on when installing linux?

what distro

[simple garden]

i seen one of your 2018 replies on the restart sub on google lol you saying you wouldnt use restart cause sometimes it restarts to fast for the old instance to end

[simple garden]

the last time i installed linux i lost all my usb ports. i followed some janky youtube video

and it was having issues using my wifi card. i was attempting to install it on an old laptop i had just to see if i could install it for a test run.

[novel horizon]

I mean if you ask here about linux things people can help, sure, but if you really want things about linux just join linux discord ^^

[simple garden]

i will @novel horizon yall just so damn helpful i normally dont need anyone else with paper around lol.

[mellow quiver]

I just ask, because installing linux, especially the popular distros, is meant to be a very easy task. So if you're struggling for whatever reason it makes me think you've got some fucked up hardware that no one has ever heard of

and with your usb port and wifi card issues.. i'm guessing that is indeed the case

[novel horizon]

yeah but still some things might be out of reach, not everyone knows it and linux discord is much better to ask about linux.. ^^

[twin lagoon]

hello @mellow quiver

did you get a better chair yet

[mellow quiver]

howdy

no

what

better?

[simple garden]

it was prob my hardware, the laptop is a 2015 gateway laptop i had laying around lol

[mellow quiver]

I'm not sure one exists

[twin lagoon]

my point still stands

[novel horizon]

@simple garden https://discord.gg/eSP6cXjY4B

[mellow quiver]

I never stand

why would I stand

I bet you have to stand

[twin lagoon]

my back is being massaged 24/7 by the power of the finest of american engineering

[mellow quiver]

well actually

mesh was a british invention

[simple garden]

@novel horizon odd question, if i get a rasp 4 can paper run on it efficiently

[golden gust]

American engineering imported into China built by the finest chinesium?

[novel horizon]

😄

I guess you know the answer, hmm? What does efficiently mean? Lowest electricity consumptions per server?

Then yes!

[simple garden]

haha no i mean like performance wise

[novel horizon]

No, of course not

[mellow quiver]

I don't think a pi is a great choice

[novel horizon]

It can run server for few players, probably, depends on your settings, it will be very limited

[simple garden]

figured id ask, i seen some yt vids of people doing it and i figured id ask before listening to click bait haha

[novel horizon]

Pregenerating it is basically necessary and even then the performance is really bad

It can get overwhelmed easily

There's people complaining about performance on some xeons that tend to be like 2.5-3 ghz max and they're mostly old, also new cpus better, not just ghz mean performance

but you can imagine whats it like on some cpu that is much lower than that even etc.

[simple garden]

i wanna build a compact server machine, with a small closet that has cooling controls and such

[novel horizon]

Why do you want it, just because?

and for how many players or so

"decent"

lol

no way

30 players on some random cloud for 4$ a month?

[simple garden]

my server supports 60 players and it is home hosted without paying a hosting site

[novel horizon]

do you even have world or is it like void and no entities or anything

[simple garden]

and it runs just fine

1.19

[novel horizon]

wat

😕

that's literally not a good cpu for that lol

[simple garden]

i have 20 gigs going into my server with great fiber optics and a i9

i dont use amd

[novel horizon]

i9 is mostly good, depends of course on the model

soo

there's no way you can run that on rasp pi, basically 🙂

maybe 3 players could be on that rasp pi

[simple garden]

i had a buddy who works for a server company give me the specs i need to build it, i am not good at building server machines at all

[novel horizon]

amd is great tho but if u get i9 for cheap or so its whatever

[simple garden]

if you host a 3 man server with rasp then you are better off getting realms lol

[novel horizon]

that's how it is with rasp pi

[simple garden]

i got it 2nd hand from ebay. i aint even gonna lie

i couldnt find a good deal on a new i9

[novel horizon]

you can find on internet some info, like on reddit and so on, people were discussing it there, i found some random thread about 1.16 mc with 5 people on etc.

sure its whatever just get whats the best or price/performance ratio or so

[simple garden]

do the lower mc version use more res then the newer ones?

[novel horizon]

yeah, of course

there might be few optimizations performance wise from paper etc.. but older versions eat much less performance

less things, less AI and crap

[simple garden]

oaf that explains why that free java play site with the original java ran so poopy for me

[novel horizon]

now even the world is bigger which adds a lot too

i mean they use LESS

[simple garden]

oh

[novel horizon]

i thought you said less

so if you run some OLD one

and it run like crap

new one would be probably worse

personally id like some servers at home but you need to work on it, some security things and proper "infrastructure" so you dont run into issues sooner or later

also electricity, running it always, something breaks

some hostings are quite good

like I use Hetzner and it's really nice tbh

for me 🤷‍♂️

[simple garden]

just build a small closet with temp control and get some car batteries and solar panels

[novel horizon]

they also have some cons

car batteries 👀

[simple garden]

bruh we are on a budget

lol

[novel horizon]

yeah sure

just be careful

don't underestimate security or safety

i mean you can own it lol if you use just housing

[simple garden]

i dont like the cloud cause i forgot to pay on time and 3 days later i lost my server files on apex hosting.

[novel horizon]

lol apex is

🤢

[simple garden]

it was 3 days late and apex ate my server

[novel horizon]

i mean you should pay on time really but

still

[simple garden]

i have a dummy card i load with $ cause i dont trust apex and i forgot to put $ for the month on it lol

they could have at least emailed me saying bro wheres are $ lol

[novel horizon]

email comes that you should pay => i go pay lol

[simple garden]

yeah when i get the email i am right there to pay lol

till then i dont think about it haha

[novel horizon]

you remember how much you paid apex and for what?

[simple garden]

Yeah.

So 20 for the server 6gig

But that was before everything else

So they say 20 for a 6gig

But then you pay for your area which was 5 more for me

And I think 4 for the custom domain

[novel horizon]

I use this, from Hetzner

47 € a month for that

dedicated server

[simple garden]

For 64 gigs

[novel horizon]

Yeah

It is a bit expensive, like you need to pay a bit more than 20 bucks right

[simple garden]

I hate apex 😭

[novel horizon]

but it's really good

decent cpu, good space and even on nvme

backup space is kinda nice too

but 64 GB all to yourself so you can run there like 4 servers easily and websites and things

[simple garden]

Yeah but I am assuming that is the actual price you are showing. Apex hits you with fees after the marketing price

[novel horizon]

Yeah, it is the price

They have on some servers setup fees

That tend to be one time like when you buy it

But not after that

Right now there's no setup fee

[simple garden]

Apex keeps the fees monthly. So I still had to pay for my area and for my domain. So it is not a 1 time fee for Apex lol

[novel horizon]

I mean depends on the services you wanted, some things may be paid monthly, but it's weird

I don't use it so idk

[simple garden]

You self host?

[novel horizon]

I pay for Hetzner ^^ :p

that server

in their datacenter

[simple garden]

What's hetzner

[novel horizon]

hosting company

[simple garden]

R they good?

[novel horizon]

I mean to me yeah

they have some cons

[simple garden]

Everyone has cons lol. It all depends how bad the cons are haha

[novel horizon]

I've heard about some problems if you get ddossed they might cut your connection or so if you dont do some solution or so

https://www.hetzner.com

https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ax

Here's the amd cpus

but on the top menu you can find lots of servers

those amd ones are one of the cheapest though soo

[simple garden]

Oh ddos. I was actually going to get ddos protection, for the company i am looking at there lowest ddos protection I can protect 3 servers.

[novel horizon]

what company

[simple garden]

One sec let me get the link

[novel horizon]

keep in mind you might want multiple services, like one for game servers and second one for website(s) and so

i think some people use tcpshield and cloudflare iirc

[simple garden]

https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwiIsc27irf4AhWsFNQBHZ1cCIwYABAAGgJvYQ&ae=1&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESa-D2worWX4kjMtxqNwEgsLqkJ-tSiu12XhO2bB3ah9xD60xk30JTcFDs8VR3AHKaGHc5TXPu_RM9aO2dU-8sqq0BzZTug5wsQBVOYsVOD6bwMpy5yMJ5E7VisRY1IeHmT9_pUEYz9pKXXNUJ&sig=AOD64_2y2wKpq8soVFHZ1PqB1C5im1Wmmw&q&adurl=https://www.cloudflare.com/lp/ppc/ddos-x/?gclsrc%3Daw.ds%26%26_bt%3D604559660363%26_bk%3Dbest%2520ddos%2520protection%26_bm%3De%26_bn%3Dg%26_bg%3D135744015057%26_placement%3D%26_target%3D%26_loc%3D9004741%26_dv%3Dm%26awsearchcpc%3D1%26gclid%3DCjwKCAjw77WVBhBuEiwAJ-YoJB2ikFbBJ-ILMIVMYk7sI4DnYWv21W3qfvjUJjQnL785YIt9lFJUzBoCFzwQAvD_BwE&ved=2ahUKEwjW9cO7irf4AhV8lYkEHYKtDK4Q0Qx6BAgGEAE

That 1

[novel horizon]

it's not that common that you get ddossed by something stronger, but still

[twin lagoon]

is your intention to your cloudflare for a minecraft server @simple garden

[simple garden]

Yeah

[novel horizon]

cloudflare is just for websites

[twin lagoon]

yeah you're gonna have to do more research

[simple garden]

Nooooo don't tell me that lol

[novel horizon]

for game servers you need tcpshield or so

[simple garden]

I was hoping it was gonna be easy to us

[potent wedge]

Isn't cloudflare mc protection available paid

[simple garden]

Loo

[twin lagoon]

cloudflare does not offer minecraft ddos mitigation at a sane price

[potent wedge]

F

[novel horizon]

i mean if you want some small server

you can just screw it and not use

it

[simple garden]

Oh no I know the price is not good. I already knew that haha

[twin lagoon]

what price were you thinking of

[novel horizon]

you can have server for 10 years without any significant "attack"

[twin lagoon]

"not good" might be an underestimation

[novel horizon]

i mean the only "attack" i had was someone messing with "bots" on mc in offline mode lol

nothing else

and they're really weak, so

[simple garden]

I try not to curse in the server so I gotta use nicer words for there protection plan pricing lol

[novel horizon]

it's okay if you say fuck or so just dont insult other people or anything or overuse it ^^

"its fucking expensive are you fucking kidding me"

:p

[simple garden]

See the 2 people I know in person that have servers constantly complain about ddos being a major issue

That is why I was looking into protection

[novel horizon]

okay so

do they run offline mod mc servers?

they can be just inexperienced or so

[simple garden]

They watch a lot of YouTube videos if that helps lol

[novel horizon]

unless they have big servers or some enemies, lol, it's not that big of a deal

if you run server in offline mode, that's your fault, but plugins like authme have antibot measures that are easy to setup

[simple garden]

As for the offline part idk honestly. I've been in there servers a few times but not much cause they are bland

There servers r

[novel horizon]

you just say "okay if 3 people connect in 1 second that are not registered, turn on antibot" and then it wont let anyone who is not registered already connect, so like few bots connect and noone else

(in authme)

i used that before

a lot of people dont know about that

[simple garden]

What is an offline server, like do you mean like how I just leave my machine locked while my server runs?

[novel horizon]

but its quite effective for those weak "attacks"

[twin lagoon]

they're pirated minecraft servers

not really relevant

[novel horizon]

no offline mode is when you let people with cracked mc connect

[simple garden]

Oh no they dont

[past cloud]

🙃

[novel horizon]

And they have ddos problems? lol

do you think you will have them too?

[simple garden]

I actually help them with there servers by coming to yall with plugin help. If they had cracked servers I'd ditch them.

[novel horizon]

but you can setup it it just.. its just lots of work if you dont know about it

[simple garden]

I don't do cracked versions

[potent wedge]

[novel horizon]

so

read about tcpshield if you want, along with cloudflare

or some hosting companies offer anti ddos too, but thats not free, either they're expensive or you gotta pay extra

idk about them that much tho

i think ovh had some anti ddos measures? 🤷‍♂️

[simple garden]

I've paid for minecraft on ever platform accept on the new Xbox so I've invested to much into mojang to side with cracked versions

I even have it on the original ipod touch lol

[novel horizon]

^^

[gilded cedar]

Are there any good websites like https://dontasktoask.com about offline mode?

[twin lagoon]

https://offlinemo.de

[novel horizon]

i kinda like that one

[gilded cedar]

it's just the meme video though

[simple garden]

Bruh lol

[novel horizon]

So do you want like text website or what lol

pirating bad 😠

[gilded cedar]

yea, that lol

[novel horizon]

YAARR yarrr fidle the d

[potent wedge]

Offline mode is simple, bad and good people in, old Mojang accounts in, good all around

[novel horizon]

oh its dee dee huh

[potent wedge]

Took you realize there's like 90 alts

[simple garden]

Can you change my support heart to a cracked 1 cause you breaking my heart lol

[novel horizon]

O_o

[simple garden]

I thought all mojang accounts were migrated

[potent wedge]

What about people who forgor the password???

And alts that aren't ever gonna get migrated manually

[ashen cliff]

In that case, they are unused alts. 🛌

Digging up graves is usually not really worth it anyway.

[simple garden]

I wonder why they did the migration thing anyhow. Did they ever state why they did it?

[novel horizon]

And even then you might not get the password

[ashen cliff]

Unified account, security, ...

[simple garden]

Yeah I can see why then. I thought it might have been a Auth reason but I wasn't sure

[novel horizon]

I mean it was lots of reasons

or at least it could be lots of reasons 👀

[potent wedge]

Not on offline mode I don't think

[simple garden]

anyone know a plugin that allows bone meal to work on melon, pumpkin, netherwart, cactus & sugarcane. Similar to haw it works on other crops?

also that works for 1.19

nvm i just had a perm issue >.>

[real saddle]

is there anyway to prevent players speedrunning in srvr

[novel horizon]

in server?

[real saddle]

ys

[novel horizon]

yeah

[real saddle]

how

[novel horizon]

add plugin that adds things like you cant enter nether until you have 50 hours played 👀

i mean you cant realistically prevent that unless you mess with things

[honest geyser]

can anyone help me make a paper smp

[novel horizon]

yes i can

[honest geyser]

ok

[real saddle]

plugin name?

[novel horizon]

download paper jar, run it, then agree to eula, run it again, done

you must google for it

some rank plugins etc

[honest geyser]

idk how to make one though

can u teach meh

[novel horizon]

there's tutorials on the internet

[honest geyser]

ohk

[frank otter]

.g how to run a Minecraft paper server

[honest geyser]

why didnt i think abt it

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://thebreakdown.xyz/how-to-make-a-paper-server-in-minecraft/

[novel horizon]

right? weird

:p

[honest geyser]

oh wow ty

[smoky cloud]

https://docs.papermc.io/paper/getting-started#downloading-paper

[real saddle]

no idnt want rank permission system

[novel horizon]

🤷‍♂️

[simple garden]

Why do you want to stop speed running? Like what is it you are trying to avoid them doing?

[clever jungle]

one person beating the game while everyone else is taking their time and actually having fun can be annoying

[real saddle]

true

[clever jungle]

anyway hey is there documentation on the PaperMC 1.19 config files yet?

the only thing i can find in the docs is for 1.18 and below

like this

im trying to optimize my server for speed

[simple garden]

Are you talking about like killing the end dragon

[lament patio]

It's mostly the same, it's just the locations that changed

[simple garden]

And no one else able to kill it?

[crystal lily]

Where did paper.yml go?

In 1.19, paper.yml has been split into two files, both in the config directory. In paper-global.yml you will find configuration that changes behavior of the whole server, and in paper-world-defaults you will find configuration that can be overridden on a per world basis. See https://docs.papermc.io/paper/per-world-configuration for more information on overrides. The function of server.properties, bukkit.yml, and spigot.yml remains unchanged for this time.

[real saddle]

thats speedrun

yes

[simple garden]

Oh that is easy to fix. Add a economy and make it so they have to pay to spawn in the dragon

Make sure you go in and kill to dragon yourself for the first time

[real saddle]

no i like to keep it as vanilla idnt need economy systems

[chilly jungle]

Hi everyone quick question, does someone know which raid farm works with a slowdown villager POI options? I would try them out myself but there's little information out there and I'm getting a little burnt down after building two different raid farm with paper modification to original design to no avail

[clever jungle]

thank you! i was aware of the config split but i just didnt know where to find documentation for it

[unkempt jackal]

Or you can disable the end so you avoid killing the dragon a d elytra at the same time

[simple garden]

Oh well idk then. You can't really keep it vanilla if you are restricting people from speed running

[real saddle]

illtry that

[clever jungle]

there's an option to disable the end in bukkit.yml iirc

[simple garden]

Or you can just put some bedrock over the end portal so they cant enter it

Or barrier blocks

Run this command /give <player> minecraft:barrier 1

And place then over the end portal

They can jump in with that.

[unkempt jackal]

There could be another stronghold in the world border, right?

[simple garden]

No only 1 strong hold per world

[unkempt jackal]

Huh

[frank otter]

wait, really?

I always thought there'd be multiple

[simple garden]

There is suppose to be only 1 end portal per world

Toss ender eyes and it will always point to 1 strong hold

It never points to a new 1

[frank otter]

I think there are more

Java Edition has like radius-based spawning

[simple garden]

Oh yeah I am wrong

There is 128 per world

Welp do what @unkempt jackal said and disable the end lol

There ya go

[clever jungle]

i knew it it's in bukkit.yml

[simple garden]

is there a plugin that allows you to have an item displayed over a chest? Like how youd use a frame to display an item

[novel horizon]

There are plugins for that or you can do that manually iirc

[jagged egret]

why not just use a frame

and set it to invisible

[simple garden]

i forgot about the invisible frames honestly

[molten egret]

I like bukkits

[vernal moth]

Ok I found my new fav meme to send at crypto bros

https://twitter.com/Linuzifer/status/1538161506633797632?t=OKOVbcOVkj6e4ZDM-iG95A&s=19

linuzifer (@Linuzifer)

https://t.co/KmFpBVaQpj

Likes

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Twitter · Jun 18, 2022, 2:07 PM

https://twitter.com/Linuzifer/status/1538161981538160640?t=076trxa9QPerpwIbxGrPRQ&s=19

linuzifer (@Linuzifer)

„Crypto ain’t no currency I ever heard of!
They have intrinsic value in crypto?“

Twitter · Jun 18, 2022, 2:09 PM

[worn ember]

currency is just what you give value

its not like money has value if no one agrees it has value

[unkempt jackal]

They should add a config option to paper.yml to toggle sex
I think that would be useful, especially with the new per world overrides

[mental meadow]

what

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther @cunning raft thoughts

[waxen panther]

yeah good call

we only want sex in some worlds after all

[twin lagoon]

s*x

[mental meadow]

uhm actually it's sechs

you are writing it wrong

[twin lagoon]

@unique human @void void thoughts

ok fucked that one up royally

that's ok

[waxen panther]

not real JAY ROY

[twin lagoon]

nevermind it's a jroy troll so it's practically the same as mentioning jroy

[waxen panther]

probably funnier too

(not hard)

[twin lagoon]

definitely

[void void]

So I'm seeing frogs are even worse than villagers for server performance, supposedly it has something to do with their fall damage prevention magic. Is there anything in the pipeline about it or do we just have to keep them on honey blocks

[vernal moth]

Care to show a profiler report?

[void void]

Oh it's more community talk, my server isn't updated yet

[vernal moth]

See, if nobody reports stuff it can never be improved

[void void]

Yeah, I brought it up here because it's not a hard report, where's the suggestion/feedback channel for non devs

[vernal moth]

It's fine to drop that here

It's just not actionable feedback

[void void]

and I have a test server I'll fire up real quick, how do I do a profiler report

[lament patio]

Using spark should be good enough

[upbeat falcon]

spark | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/spark.57242/

spark 1.9.9 ... spark is a performance profiler for Minecraft clients, servers and proxies. ... spark is a performance profiler for Minecraft ...

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[void void]

ok

[plucky plaza]

Need more coding help; Is this possible for my velocity plugin to do? I have extra fields and methods I want to store to RegisteredServer. I want to be able to use downcast "SpecialServer" to "RegisteredServer" and when Velocity uses "instenceof VelocityRegisteredServer" it should be true.

This is a Java question

[viral hornet]

#velocity-dev perhaps?

[vernal moth]

You can make the velocity class implement your interface, no

You can use wrappers tho

[viral hornet]

#stack-overflow perhaps?

[plucky plaza]

Ok, I was afraid of that

[viral hornet]

runs ^_^

[plucky plaza]

I have actually never posted there. Just looked.

[viral hornet]

Wasn't actually serious lol, but that is a great site if you need help

[vernal moth]

Its actually really horrible

As a poster that is

As a resource via Google it's amazing

[viral hornet]

Why's it horrible?

[vernal moth]

Have you ever posted?

[viral hornet]

no

that's why i'm asking you why it's horrible lol

[plucky plaza]

I think the mods edits the questions

[vernal moth]

Everybody will just jump at you for doing stuff wrong and downvote your stuff

People who barely understand what they are talking about that is

[plucky plaza]

I want my to plugin to be as optimized as possible but I'm also new to Java and that leads to me asking a lot of "What's the best way" or "Can I do this or that" a lot, so I'm afraid of posting there

[viral hornet]

I don't think their downvote feature is bad https://i.imgur.com/gKV6Vnf.png

In saying that, I doubt it's used how it should be

[visual egret]

if you ask too many "stupid" questions your account gets locked

by too many they mean like 4

and good luck unlocking it

[wide chasm]

I disagree, so I marked your message as off-topic, unclear and your question is now no longer accepting answers. /s

SO is not a QA site, but a FAQ site, where you should take "frequently" as "literally every question you could ever have".

[vernal moth]

Lol

[mild rune]

As someone who's posted to stackoverflow, it's toxic as fuck

[void void]

https://spark.lucko.me/D9IKTJ6DUJ here's that profiler anyway

[wide chasm]

This is why questions and answers are edited by other people and why you can answer your own question, they want a giant database of all possible questions, they're not necessarily interested in helping you.

[lament patio]

LongJumpToRandomPos strikes again

How many frogs were that?

[void void]

uhh

314

we just kept scaling it up until we noticed it hitting performance

it handled up to about 80 ish just fine so think it was overblown on the "worse than villagers" thing

[lament patio]

I guess 13 mspt for 300 frogs on a Ryzen 3600 isn't that bad

[void void]

it was beautiful

[mild rune]

Luckily people don't hoard frogs as much as villagers so it's probably fine

[void void]

don't know how well it captures events but it was fine for the most part, then random bursts of huge tickrate drops every 20-30s or so

[mild rune]

were they all jumping at the same time?

[void void]

no but enough of them might have been trying to maybe

[jovial plover]

Shd I make a hardcore server or a lifesteal server where when u die u drop ur head and u can't respawn till someone places it

[worthy geode]

the frog model & animations were made in Blockbench, its kinda nice how a tool created for modding is now used by the devs themselves

[ashen cliff]

I see you have never met my players.

[mild rune]

I just talked to my one dev that we need to delete frogs

I forgot my players hoard everything

[ashen cliff]

Exactly.

We had someone with like 3k bees. Why? For the glory of Satan of course.

[mild rune]

I had someone with enough cows in a single area that it crashed my server when too many people were near it

And of course the entire server came to check it out

[ashen cliff]

We had someone complaining about ping issues, so they agreed to us tracking their coordinates and ping, notices a specific region causing them high ping... huge farm with like 1k chickens and cows.

[worthy geode]

the LongJump seems fine though. In my sampelr its the NearestVisibleEntity check thats taking very long (with 500 frogs in the same setup)

[unkempt jackal]

why would people need so many animals in one spot

[ashen cliff]

I assume both call different operations?
So it might be down the hardware?

[ashen cliff]

It's just how the brain work. The more you have, the more powerful you feel.

[worthy geode]

also apparently they have a frog king

[void void]

entity cramming cow farms are pretty popular

do recommend replacing the floor with honey if someone makes a frog lag machine

no problems now

[worthy geode]

water works as well, should remove the long jump check

[unkempt jackal]

having to get that much honey would encourage a massive bee farm

[void void]

nah if it's for lag reduction i'm using the magic wand

[unkempt jackal]

what really gets me about this frog thing is that frogs aren't functionally that useful to have in large quantities

[worthy geode]

yeah, but if you don't have limits some people will do things like that

[ashen cliff]

And they will always ask for just 1 more.

[worthy geode]

time to figure out why the longjump is so bad, its not even that complicated. and its not the collision check, even though it checks collisions for every location on the jump path

[void void]

feeding time

[dawn sequoia]

😵‍💫😍

[worthy geode]

https://spark.lucko.me/U0r8ZUWccG
500 frogs, 14 TPS

[visual egret]

just disable frog AI 🙄

[jovial plover]

hi

[worthy geode]

the pathfinder caches blocks, but due to there being a new pathfinder for every possible jump target, its useless

[void void]

[vernal moth]

These legends blasting sandstorm so loud am sure the whole city can hear it 😂 😂

[jovial plover]

sandstorm cool

[vernal moth]

Oh and now scooter

[void void]

did one for allays too, those are for sure going to get hoarded https://spark.lucko.me/EUMYrnjr5Q

[upbeat falcon]

Worthing Climate, Weather By Month, Average Temperature (United ...

https://weatherspark.com/y/44757/Average-Weather-in-Worthing-United-Kingdom-Year-Round

In Worthing, the summers are comfortable, the winters are long and very cold, and it is windy and partly cloudy year round. Over the course of the year, ...

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[jovial plover]

i thoght it would ust say temp

[worthy geode]

https://spark.lucko.me/udkNzWUmuT
Same number of frogs, 20 TPS. I guess moving the caching somewhere else helped

[unkempt jackal]

well, they aren't duplicable yet, so at the moment this is difficult to achieve

but in the next update, duping them will be as easy as handing them an amethyst shard!

[lament patio]

Ugh, lol, what is all this sorting

[abstract sierra]

Anyone got any diamond mining tips in 1.19? 2 double chests of deepslate strip mined at level -59 and only 2 diamonds to show for it!

[magic river]

My desk, with both computers, monitors etc all on but idle, seems to use about 170W

Although my laptop is recharging its battery from the time the desk was unplugged while I set up this smart plug I'm using to monitor it

So I guess I should wait for that

[ashen cliff]

In my case it's like 200W.
But that's a modem, switch, router, 3 monitors and a SLI laptop.

The first 3 pull like 87W.

[magic river]

The modem and router are somewhere else but that's what my second smart plug is going on

My desk does have a switch on it, so I can wire my desktop, laptop, and PS5

I mostly just want to know this stuff so I can be a stats nerd but eventually I want to get some kind of UPS going on these things so seeing their usage range will be helpful

[ashen cliff]

I had the idea of using an Arduino Mega to monitor all cables inside the fuse box, but decided to wait, till I get a new fuse box...
I'm never getting a new fuse box at this point.

https://boredomprojects.net/index.php/projects/home-energy-monitor

And someone already did it with the same components I had in mind.

[magic river]

I've seen systems to monitor each breaker, yeah

Problem is I don't know what is hooked up to each breaker 😄

And it's a seemingly random mix of shit sometimes so unless you test every light and outlet for every breaker until you get them all mapped out you can't just assume because a room light turned off that's what the breaker is for

[ashen cliff]

Same here, but I spend a whole day figuring it out.
Since our wires are a mess.

[ashen cliff]

Me_IRL.

[magic river]

I think one of mine turns off an outlet in the kitchen, the outlet in the garage, and a light in the basement

I learned the kitchen/garage connection because I was out there when someone popped the breaker trying to run the toaster and microwave at the same time

[ashen cliff]

Best one (all on one fuse): kitchen light, attic, my rooms lights, my rooms main outlet, garage 1, garage 2 just the washing machine, garage 3 and garage 4 main outlet...

[magic river]

jeez

[ashen cliff]

So, what happened was, someone drilled a hole for something, broke the garage 2 main cable, so they just wired the other one over...

Plugins on Bukkit? Bro.

[molten egret]

I got a new chair

I feel like a little girl now

[magic river]

DBO and curseforge are the same thing

[molten egret]

DBO?

[magic river]

Like, they're hosted by the same company and have (or had) somewhat of a shared code base