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but, adding in a version mismatch is gonna potentially cause issues like via replacing blocks
I mean, I'm not seeing reports of anything too breaking
Alright, I may give it a go then, because I really need to get on building somethings for the 1.19 update
I'm running 3 waterfall servers and they're all fine
not sure what's the deal with velocity tho
well, I do have a proxy test server, I shall test it lol
Nope, velocity isn't supporting 1.19 yet
"isn't supporting"
that's only cause paper ppl are too nice... instead of announcement they should quietly push 1.19 and just say it's not support for about a month or 2
that's some 200 iq stuff
Sorry, I apologise if I said something wrong, english isn't my first language. And I do not expect anyone to kill themselves over working to get things done overnight. I was just wondering
Didn't mean any insult
How many packets per second does/can a normal legit player send?
What I mean is, what you're saying makes 0 sense, and so I wanted it clarified
velocity works with 1.19 just fine
Well, bar a few issues
works fine for me
make sure that you're using the dev builds, not the release version
post getting 1.19 out I really should push for a release...
stable is really looking like dolphin emu now
dolphin has been on the same stable release for 5 years now
I must be doing something wrong then, I changed my jar for the test proxy and it says that it only supports up to 1.18.2 in the server list page.
I belive it polls the version from the backend server
Yup, I was doing something wrong, sorry for the confusion, it is all working fine
oki
I do not know where to ask this
But is there a download or something to add lots of bots to a server
cracked server btw
Mineflayer, LambdaAttack
wow
what?
in what 1993 mercedes-benz are you hiding him in @meager tusk
@worthy geode Lol i have a minecraft account but im botting a p2w server
He thinks it's a 1993 mercedes-benz.
Oh no no no.
He doesn't know.
It's actually a 1989 Mercedes Benz.
Dark red.
cringe
how about you don't
why
I already told you
Mfw
cringe
Camm came back just to air you, Michale.
cope
thats even worse lol
Tepelenรซ moment.
average balkan car
Even more average balkan road.
i found out last week that albania's capital does not have a train station
Albania doesn't have a metro system.
what does albania have
As far as I know none of the western balkans have a metro system.
actually no so it gets better
Weed better than the dutchies.
because they got rid of the train station 3 years ago or something

to replace it with busses
Yeah sounds about Albanian.
camm you cunt get back in that server
@valid quest if you want to actually be productive, if the server is breaking the EULA you can report them (http://aka.ms/mce-reportserver). Botting/griefing/etc is... sad.
Reporting you there Camm.
Idriz ๐ฅบ
Michael ๐ฅบ
wtf camm's just ignoring me now
WOT
GET BACK IN THAT DISCORD SERVER
yes sir
Oh thank you i did not even knwo that existed now i wont bot the server
hmmmmm
Dupe on the server, break it's economy
Please don't encourage that
Why?
Promoting malicious behavior is typically frowned upon
- Because it violates various TOS and potentially illegal behavior
- ignoring the cracked thing, who is the judge of this mess
majority of the servers they target is literally "ohhh, it has paid ranks!"
people assume p2w as anything that has some form of donation setup.
sure, there are plenty of p2w servers out there, but for the most part I dont see much of a point going after them
there are better places to seek justice in the world
pretty much, just let mojang enforce their eula if a network's only crime is being a pvp pay to win.
there are also plenty of servers to play on, with probably a nearly identical concept, that are not p2w. So if you dislike it, just don't play there
Does the initial builds have warden etc
It has everything vanilla has
Make sure your proxy and client are updated
Its not working
#paper-help with more info than just โnot workingโ
for all my linux users, what do u guys use to screenshot
maim
flameshot
flameshot always breaks randomly for me
Hey is anyone here familiar with multiverse
what about it
so i just started using mv and so far i got it running good accept 1 issue. So i made a new world for a hub, and i imported my old world via mv but when i use the nether portal it puts me into a new nether instead of my original nether. Is there anyway to link my old world with my old nether and not the new worlds nether?
are you using multiverse-netherportals? i don't think the core behavior is to create new nethers
but if you are, it should have a way to connect worlds
https://dev.bukkit.org/projects/multiverse-netherportals/
Multiverse-NetherPortals Features
Allow a nether per real world!
Let nether portals built in a world go to a specific world
no but i am gonna grab it now
Iirc Multiverse looks for world_name + _nether
yall are my heros haha
one more question, so my hub world is it possible to decrease the world boarder size to the size of my hub without effecting my main world?
the /worldborder command is world specific, so if you set the border in one world, it will only be set for that world
similar to how gamerules are per-world
oh so i can set the world to constant night in 1 and the other will tick as normal?
yes
you guys know why when my server crash. The world is the same as the moment it's crashed, but the inventory is rolled back. How do I fix this?
player inventories and chunks are saved at different points. easiest way to fix that is just fixing whatever causes the crash
okay, ty.
there's no way to fix, since the inventory has not saved to the disk, server crashing just pop them away
if your server's log contains no information about the crash, maybe due to lack of allocated RAM and the OS killed it, mostly this problem occurs on linux
how i can get 1.12.2 paper version?
To download old versions of Paper, click here โก๏ธ papermc.io/legacy โฌ ๏ธ and fill out the questions. Note that old versions are completely unsupported and contain numerous bugs/exploits.
ty โค๏ธ
do popular DEs not include screenshot tools by now?
they do
ok, maven central deployment is throwing me for a loop here... I publish to it, that succeeds, but its creating 2 staging repositories, 1 has 1 main jar artifact from one module, the other everything for both modules (sources, javadoc, signatures, pom) except the main jar artifact for 1 of them.
anyone know how to get worldedit working on 1.19
Ask in the WorldEdit Discord?
nah
ill see thanks
But yeah they have a whole Discord. They're the ones to ask.
auto updater ๐
yeah figured
Works fine so far, first 24 hours live
Paper and velocity make the Minecraft experience so much better. 
They have the beta version for it on their website https://builds.enginehub.org/job/worldedit
Downloads and builds for the WorldEdit project. Download beta and test builds!
Would suggest joining their discord EngineHub as it has lots of good info
Why? It's only June!
yeah its a theory that there is more than one universe and other universes can be same or completely different from ours
oh you meant the plugin ๐ณ
Happy flag day!
Does anyone also have the problem when bedrock players start trading with enchantment villagers that they don't work, this problem is with enchantment villagers
how do i change the papermc /ver command
gawd damn where u live
You can only disable with permissions
but how did mh change it
try with MyCommands or other plugin and create command as a replacement for /version
Just a trivial question, what timings get reset exactly when a server restarts?
no help
All of them?
Like melon growth progress and phantom spawning?
I didn't think so? Atleast for phantoms

Melon growth process is determined by random tick iirc, so that doesn't have a timer attached to it.
how to get access to #adorable-pets
We have a big tribunal where we decide if you are worthy
Probably be known a little bit and prove that you have adorable kittie
Yep, very big, very serious
oh
This was the person who gave me my role :0
My cat is currently hiding somewhere ๐
hmm
I am right now thinking
master or mistress ๐ค
is it the same word?
you don't have a cat ? ๐ฎ
"I am the king of the world"
just need to get myself a world
That should be a skit in a cartoon tbh
That last photo is how I wake up in the morning, then wonder why I ache so much
accepted
Look at this ๐
that's suspicious
hey
wkizi1
blink twice if you need help ๐
oh also by the way
after years of waiting here in paper
i had taco
it was delicious
^^

it would be dead in my care
other people care for me
i am kinda alive still, so that's going on for me
I can't care for myself
the joys of being disabled
oh I have plushie cats. and sharks. and unicorn-alpacas
unicorn-alpacas <- win
So there was this plugin called VillagerNerf for 1.17 that I've been using on my Server for a while but I've been noticing a few bugs with it. Is there a still maintained alternative?
it's like over 1m tall
There's a new build for Wandering trades on jenkins now i see that updated dependencies. Hopefully it's resolved now?
sure
see #announcements
Oh thanks for letting me know, time for new test round ๐
oh my god that's massive
I didn't think a unicorn alpaca would be so
I don't know a word but just like awwww
You can remain respectful instead of acting like you just did. Just because you didn't understand the information in the announcement channel, does not mean you have to take it out on me because i have a fox icon. lol. do better.
!warn @void void Ableist language is not allowed
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dang really resorted to personal insults
Imagine pointing out to people the info they want can be found in the announcement channel.

Hi
hi alien pig, welcome.
I am making a server and want to add some feature but don't know which plugin is required
Can anyone help
?
What kind of features are you looking for?
Player head drop when killed and
If you want to protect doors and chests, you could consider LWC-Extended, by pop. Or, if you want to add combat stuff, maybe search resources on spigot for titles with keyword combat or pvp. If you want build tools, maybe look into worldedit.
https://www.spigotmc.org/search/?type=resource_update click on [search titles only] and enter the keywords you want.
Ok
You dont need a plugin for this, theres a nice datapack below you can use
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/customization/player-heads-drop-datapack
Hello Peter
sup peter
To my knowledge datapacks should be avoided on Bukkit, I may be wrong.
In that case
And I'm pretty sure a chunk of it does not work
There is also this
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/headdrops-1-8-1-18.15964/
Like custom dimensions
I am omnipresent in any server I actually pay attention too
I frequently stalk #paper-contrib
the fuck was that original message
what's wrong with people
in what way are you dissabled?
many things
ill dm ya
@cunning raft
i like the replaced number, did the previous attempts fail?
I'll repost it in Jroys server
also, that's not how app stores work lol
The 1-5 star ratio would be funny
They will just be removed for review bombing ...
... Like it happened last time
It happened before
what, getting warned for posting crap/ ๐
is there a way to make paper auto update
don't
you could
it's not a good idea from what ive heard
just make a java application that downloads the latest jar from the api then invoke it, and pass args through into it
They have an api, you can go up the tree to find the latest build for the branch or whatever, and get the new jar if there's one . And then take it from there.
I mean auto updating isn't difficult, I made a basic script to download latest a few months ago. https://gist.github.com/Peter-Crawley/98fa48f3ca7fbcb1f4ce439cd9564f5a
someone should make a drop in replacement
That probably would not be too hard
yeah
why when creating the world i have keepinventory turned on and it only keeps the items in the normal world but in hell it dies??
gamerules are per world
nether?
.
how can I open config file of any plugin ?
Yeah this version works for me without errors ๐
and is there a way to temporarily disable plugin on a server?
I'd rather wait for server host beccause that way if something screws up I can use their customer service
nice! ๐ maybe ill update to the jenkins one myself, if not only to get updated dependancies
some plugins have config.yml enable/disable options, others have a generic permission you can negate, others you simply can't without /stop first
On windows you can use notepad++ for example to edit YAML files. on macOS you can use sublime text 4 ..
point being, as long as it's not a word editor, but it's a proper text editor that understands config files like yaml, you should be good
if you make a change and it all goes to shite, you can parse it through a yaml compliance checker; http://www.yamllint.com/
sorry for being a noob, I imagine 1.19 is now good to go or should I wait a couple of weeks before upgrading the server from 1.18.2?
It's mostly safe right now, although you should absolutely make a backup.
what's the difference between Velocity and Waterfall?
Velocity fast, but has less plugins
Waterfall is basically the opposite
Go Velocity if you can.
ah so trying to replace Waterfall with Velocity
Velocity is the better choice but sometimes people really want a specific plugin that probably should just be on their servers not on the proxy. ๐
damn being here makes me feel like i have imposters syndrome
I now have 3 servers running on 1.19 paper, and for what i do with servers, i haven't noticed any issues. check the plugins individually, also, /stop and backup, clone and test - if things dont go as expected, just run 1.18.2 again and try in a week
Don't worry about it
Asking questions is important
๐
so if i develop a plugin using the Paper-API should It natively work on a Spigot server or nah?
no
assuming versions are the same
but Spigot Plugins seem to work on Paper Servers?
because paper implements the spigot api since it's built on top of spigot
ooooooooooo
Because Paper is backwards compatible
damn okay so hmm if i were to go about developing Public plugins, and wanted to post it on the Spigot "store" i'd need to re-code it?
nothing prevents you from developing it with both apis
Or wait for Hangar
Spigot is fine, but once you know what you want out of your server, you eventually still are going to end up on paper anyway. if not only for having more things patched and dupes fixed, etc. stuff spigot doesn't always do.
Hangar is basically Spigot Resources: Paper Edition.
damn just trying to find a decent place to "put my plugins" ๐L
yea but i mean for people to randomly stumble upon
poly? mcm? github?
did u say poly twice as a hint?
Use Spigot API and put it on the Spigot Resources Section, or wait for Hangar.
sorry, meant git
damn that's sad i wanted to make the full transition to Paper lol
I wouldn't count on Hangar being available for a few months
seeing as i'm still a bit of an idiot i may stick with Spigot to try to "get my stuff" out there
i use paper servers 100% of the time tho
to publish a resource on spigot the core functionality must be compatible with spigot
you can have features that only work on paper, but that shouldn't be the main focus of your plugin on there
i don't even know the difference between the two API's in terms of what features Paper has vs Spigot ๐
Well yes, they think of the name & simply add the suffix SMP or MC etc
I mean what's your server about, anything floats imo
Speaking of hangar, I have weekend now, so rest of the week is dedicated to hangar
pretty sure an overview over the added api stuff is in the works but ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
And well, the sun and stuff
many more events in paper :3
me neither but all ik is, PAPER > SPIGOT
well.. nice time for turn on the calefactor...
Players ranting in DM that they lost their stuff to the warden - after asking if we have the warden, and me saying: they are there somewhere, go in prepared, we dont restore inventory. "its unfair, it's too powerful, i lost all my good stuff" welp. yeh.
Oh you mean like other suffixes? I guess there is Craft
they join, 3 minutes later they find it, then they die 5x and it's unfair. lol.
they should be glad im too busy to check how they found it in 3 minutes ๐ ๐
LOL for real
only 21ยฐC for me today... but it's supposed to go to 37 on the weekend ๐
uhm, let me check, i got new sensors!
i wanna a little of rain here xd
but in house the cold its not bad.... thanks "home office"
I wish I had a balcony
But I guess the parks here are a good alternative
Plus you always have fun people here
Today we have a guy that looks like a terrorist but plays Jamaican music on his guitar
You saying i am not fun on my balcony!! Hehe
Just dum stereotypes
My headphone amp arrived, I didn't expect it to be so cute
Now you can listen to music in 700dB
that headset looks comfy and like it delivers quality audio
if not only because the wire isn't 2mm thick, haha
dt 1990 pro 
oh wow
Crazy how a new amp sounds all different again
xlr plug as well, nice.. my dac will like that
mini xlr
3pin?
Kek now I only need a shorter cable that doesn't weight a ton
This looks ridiculous
every time i have my headset and i walk into a store, i get asked to not film
every time i wear airpods, nobody bothers me
#perception
A man of quality with the pixel 6 pro there ๐ 
Hey! I want to use BungeeCord and i have multipole servers running... Is there a plugin to let you PaperMc server running as a PaperMC server?
wat
wat is right.
Is there a plugin for Paper MC that let you Paper MC server running as a BungeeCord server...
What
That you with npc's can connect to another server. Is there a plugin?
I am struggling to understand what you mean. PaperMC is an organization, Paper is a java server, BungeeCord is a proxy for java servers
You can use bungeecord with paper servers the same way you do with spigot servers
Yes, but is there a plugin for "Paper java server" that you from a Paper Java Server to another Paper Java Server can connect to a mpc for example
Do you mean switch between servers?
Yes! And then i use a hub...
Users can switch between servers using /server
You need to give them the permission node bungeecord.command.server I think.
I should look. Do i have nothing to install?
HexedHero got banned in Purpur with the reasoning being a community-wide ban
anyone know more? 
Don't think we should go into that drama here
Fwiw they are banned here too
If you care, ask them, they should know
citizens has npc commands built in
Oki!
iirc they can also use bungee commands
But I am not going to discuss that in public
All I can say it seems pretty fucked up and stay away
Yes, but can you get bungeecord on a PaperMC server?
maybe you should read up on what bungeecord is
hey
Stop using bungee cord revert to velocity
Revert to RubberBand
lilpad best amirite?!?
the server logo is the reason why i quit making servers
Reject Paper, return to hMod.
what
๐
elaborate
cmon u get it dont you
thats kinda sad
Explain
i am simply unaware and would like an explanation
nah
why not?
yes
reject updates, use 3.1.1
ok, the animation for Minecraft Legends in the launcher was pretty cute lol
Reject Fabric, return to Forge. 
Reject Forge. Return to patching the jar.
Yo guys
How much this CPU is good for minecraft server?
i know nothing about xeon
the e3-2236 does not exist no
Probably a typo
they got the frequency and core count right, so its probably the right one, just messed up the name
mh
is it a good cpu in single thread?
can it handle a survival server with around 100 players? Obviously with all the world pregenerated and worldborder on, all .yml optimized ect!
given the simple fact that it's not a 5950x I'm going to guess probably not, since on modern MC you need some quite powerful hardware for 100 players
how much could it handle without lag?
impossible to tell
It might if you have the ram and solid state drives to back it. Are you running this at home or is this in the cloud ?
its one of the cheaper xeons iirc, so I doubt it can handle 100 players in a normal setting.
100 players when everyone is at spawn maybe, but not much else
Like 100 people who play on the server maybe, though idk about all 100 being online at the same time@
I mean performance only cares about concurrent players
i mean 100 online players
usually when people say playercounts that's what they mean, although in 90% of cases when people ask if something can handle 100 players, they don't acually have the players
You would just have to try, lot of cloud providers are elastic and you can upgrade the specs as needed. Well with some data transferring.
i don't have them right now but i'll have them soon
if you don't have them right now, you can always upgrade later if the need arises
Because I hate to burst your bubble, but unless you either are a large content creator or have something incredibly unique and engaging on your server, you will not get 100 concurrent
I hope you got Geyser, I feel like tiktok is 90% bedrock players 
Creative a primary server using velocity as a proxy and configure the settings. This site has the wiki and all the details what you have to change in config files. The players connect to the velocity proxy and it directs them to the others as needed. https://velocitypowered.com/
but if you are going for an SMP, like all the tiktok servers, that CPU isn't gonna cut it for 100 players for sure
How much could it handle?
impossible to say
I mean i'm using a terrible ovh vps
and i'm handling 30 players with no problems
because right now i'm in beta
30 is fairly easy
and i still didn't sponsor it
yeah i know
But if a cheap ovh vps can handle 30 players
maybe a dedicated with that cpu can handle more then that
It's just a "good offert" i found
Thank you!!!
its kinda average, not the worst, but also not good
any good european hosting for dedicated wich is not ovh or hetzner?
yeah once you get over 30 it gets progressively harder and harder to run, 100 is about the realistic limit of how many players you can get on a single instance before having to severely nerf core things for performance.
Hetzner is pretty much unbeatable in terms of the hardware you get for the money you pay
(as long as you don't need DDoS prot, since theirs is effectively non-existent)
tcpshield should be fine for minecraft servers in that regard
If / when Paper deprecates Material, the deprecation warnings in my plugin will go from around 1,500 to 3,000... save me from legacy code
why not ovh or hetzner?
the ryzen for sure, thats a skylake intel cpu, 7 years old by now
Had a bad experience with hetzner, and ovh setup fee take the price to high for what i can spend right now
(Both are worse than the xeon btw)
is that ryzen better then the xeon?
oh i see
dont think you will get anything cheaper than ovh with most european hosts
how was your experience bad with hetzner?
when i used them, i had no complaints
to much sort of verification, i contacted their support service and it was so bad
no info
verifying that you exist is bad?
no
nope, but the veryfing process it is
if it was my project I would go with one of hetzners AX servers + tcpshield. even if you need one of tcpshields paid plans it very likely is still cheaper than other options.
And if you really get 100 players, even the most expensive AX server for 94โฌ/month should be affordable
its not stable
i seriously doubt that any other host has a better verification solution
all are bad
I assume multipaper tries to hack multiple paper instances into one?
even paper can handle 100 players
pretty much
it has a single point of failure which is it's master messaging system
it's simply shifting the performance problem away to another system
wee
also most of your plugins won't work
What about the ex43?
atleast the tps is 20!
id personally go with a AX51-NVME, currently has 0โฌ setup fee
ryzen 7 3700x
Multipaper is fine for doing events and stuff. But I would not use it for anything long term
is that so?
maybe with continued development in a few months/years, of all the full sharding solutions so far its imo the best one. but its not production ready right now
what about plugins that dont support mysql
which is not feasible for the average smp
it's an interesting one for sure
vortex would like to know your location
definitely the most worked out one publicly available
but i wouldn't touch it in a 5 mile radius
would you touch it with a 6 mile long stick?
i also question how redstone works
I think overall vortex is the best one currently, but of course that's closed source
eh true
yeah closed source sharding has existed for a while in a somewhat usable state
vortex probably is one of the nicer solutions out there though
Never heard of it tbh
yeah I guess egg hasn't needed to worry about redstone and stuff since all the main logic is either off-the-shelf plugins or skript
ah vortex is eggs?
Vortex is Egg's one for MrBeast's 1000+ player events, is closed source and private though
it doesn't rely on a paper fork, has a fallback for the single point of failure issue using raft consensus, all just a plugin
is it doing entity replication?
it synchronizes entities & AI if we want to believe kenny's twitter
Cross-server virtual (!) entities ๐ Get ready for even more intense thousand player MrBeast Gaming videos in the future
130
time to follow kenny on twitter 
https://twitter.com/kennytvn/status/1490444746904551434 this same issue will occur on multipaper
@exerosis That sort of implementation/sharding a world works well for survival worlds or places players are spread out, but falls short when you have thousands of players crammed up in the same place - since thatโs the use case for MBG videos, we chose to scale with servers horizontally
it literally does not solve anything
it seemed to have worked well for that tho
Have you seen the prison simulation video?
~850 players in 10x10 chunks with MP
even PvP seemed quite decent
Hey, is anyone around to grant the sponsor role?
Yo guys wich is the best one for mc server?
https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax51-nvme
https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ex43
i mean another benefit there is that it's just entities, the mrbeast videos don't exactly have complex logic with villager ai or whatsoever
ax51
ax51, as i said before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0rxOfr77YQ is the video im talking about. also just a very well made video in terms of storytelling imo
could it handle 100 players?
it'll handle 100 players if you optimize things properly yes
I already have everything optimized properly
survival with all world preloaded and with a 20k x 20k border
but yeah in general 100 spread out vs 100 in one area doesn't make much of a difference
just throw mythicmobs in and it will no longer be fine 

that is true
i hate mm
MM is ehh. but its the only public plugin that can do what it does, so lots of people use it
@mental meadow oc
The big servers like hypixle have tons of Java servers, many just copies of each other and they distribute the players thought the servers. Mmos do the same thing. Normally if two people want to play together there is an npc to go to so yโall can be on the same sever, or they group up in a team and the servers know to put them together.
what
they're saying how a minigame network can scale up servers massively to handle the load instead of needing a bunch of beefy servers
jo
Sorry late reply to some stuff people were talking about before lol
Thanks!
Not sure how tb2t handles it though, seems like some many people on one map but guessing they have some trickery in the backend to handle it.
2b2t? they don't, they just have a long queue
Ah right, remember hearing some people waiting an hour to just play lol seems pointless
I thought it was like 8h without their priorty queue thing
and they have no interest in changing that because the queue is how they make money
Lol people are really dedicated to wait that long
2b2- 
whats a prio ban?
banned from the priority queue I believe
banned from purchasing priority queue yeah
so effectively a ban
and since the queue is so long it's a massive pain ^
so you pay money and still need to wait like a poor peasant? lol
I guess that the no rules extends to the admin having no rules for himself then
admin just knows you can make a lot of money without putting much work into it
Anarchy is a myth
but tbh I just don't get the appeal of anarchy servers anyways
Ya there are some rules just not many. Famous one being lag machines will get you banned
yeah there are rules, they're just ones to protect the server itself
Anarchy in an online environment is simply something that does not work
People like to grief and troll without being banned lol
Anarchy doesn't work period, lol
Laws exists, you are not exempt from them
Just because you label yourself as anarchy
sad that #politics is gone ๐ฆ
my point was that I don't think anarchy servers work, even though I think it might work in rl, and that kinda makes them even worse
Normal smp server you will get kicked for blowing up others builds and targeting other players. But with the anarchy label it just means a free for all pvp map
anarchy is about being allowed to use exploits and "cheat" clients
it's not about pvp lol
never seen a bot so smart before
irc
he is an advanced ai
he just has gamer fuel, that's how he programmed pheonix616 bot
Oh no the google bot has spread
time to put phoenix in a chinese room 
pretty insane on what people will waste their time... ๐
but eve exists so ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
is it really a game though when you write custom tooling and programs to not actually play the game?
I mean I get that it's a hobby but ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
I mean different games have different levels of wasting time though, like I don't get the point of the clicker games aside from like burning 5 minutes
number go up!
yeah but like if someone can automate the game, what's the point in you playing it? And I know people have automated cookie clicker
Let's say that your base is 1mln from spawn.
sounds like this is the issue
clicker games are the skinner box with almost all the artifice stripped off
at least games are a safer time waste than drugs
caffeine is also safe and accepted
beat me to it dammit
well, you get a caffeine overdose a lot faster imo
I have seen some creating AI that can play the same as a human player but the purpose is for research and not to enjoy playing Minecraft. Seems pretty cool tho if you are into machine learning
Yeah I mean I know people have "beaten" mc using AI too, but that's not really the main goal of MC
ok lemme reprhase, being able to automate the entire game is pointless. Cookie clicker is like that. Being able to automate portions of a much more complicated games, is good, and you're right a much more interesting project
That just defeats the point of the game lol
You wouldn't be playing at that point, you're just sitting there.
imo automation for the sake of automation as a hobby is fine, but it's not playing a game/gaming anymore
factorio would like a word
Literally tons of games
show me a factorio world that can't be improved
also the game of factorio is building a factory that does stuff automatically. it's not building the factory for you (unless you download blueprints)
Well yeah, but there's Automating the entire game vs automation being part of the game
the self replicating rail factorioes are pretty cool, but most factorio worlds that can't be improved are because of hardware limits not game limits
hardware limits aren't real limits
well sure if you got money
and yeah the shit people can do with recursive blueprints is insane
yes
Haha that is the joke people are calling it
? I literally said that only playing a game is playing a game
Maybe someday we will get elder scrolls 6
if you think that 1 == 1 is false then I don't know... lol
as far as minecraft goes, the process of figuring out the automation myself is the fun part, i don't like to use other peoples builds except to figure out how they work, and bots are off limits in most places
For MC you're supposed to put on some electronic music and enter a zen state for 2 hours while you burn through an inventory of shovels
well is your boss a worker if he pays you to do their job on the factory floor? pretty sure marx already answered that question a while ago
runs
but you lose the opportunity to turn to the guy next to you and say "i have done nothing but mine netherite by hand for 14 hours straight" and get that delicious look of "wtf is wrong with you"
no mending? smh
then you'd have to waste time in an xp grinder
Haha that is a debate question. Depending on who you ask the boss is the hardest working and others say they are useless and just steals money.
i always just used stone shovels for massive projects lol
Don't screw with mending for stripping the dirt off a square mile, just chew through a bunch of stone or iron shovels
def not something i recently did or anything...
No waste of time in a guardian farm :p get like 30 levels of xp quickk
I mean eff + haste 2 vs tons of stone shovels, I know which I'd rather
I am a cheater and use worldedit for large projects but shrugs
especially because mining nether quarts provides all the mending XP you ever need.
Before you know it you've listened to every deadmau5 song and the server is screaming at you for destroying all the land around spawn ๐
Why does hetzner sends me this everytime i try to go on this site?
https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax51-nvme/configurator#/
bring a few stacks of nether quartz ore with you and you can just keep going for hours
^ whenever I go grinding netherite I usually get enough quartz to be able to go ham with my fortune pick for a few minutes and get back to near-full
@runic swanomonPicos because there was an error loading the configuration of the server
if not 20 minutes of caving usually solves that
We're talking about dirt though
yeah i know bot, but all my friends don't have that problem
XP farm then
Gotta keep a silk touch axe and a fortune axe on you. You can always put the axe on your shield spot and go on a killing rampage at night lol
You're complaining about the grind to get all this dirt but you're trying to add more grind to keep a mending tool going so you can grind out the dirt a little faster
I mean instabreak vs stone shovel...
ubuntu 18 or 20?
And don't forget the grind to get a mending tool
wich is the best?
Villie trading hall
and you got any idea how much wood is needed for that many shovels?
22.04 is latest
The versions are 18.04 and 20.04, not 18 and 20
Somewhat off topic but is there a decent multi-world plugin for paper 1.19? Like, I want a 'core' world with teleports to the other worlds on the same server
And if possible you want 22.04, otherwise 20.04
Mod?
okay what's the best?
debian 11
There's the Multiverse plugin
Ya I mean you can go into creative mode to remove the dirt that way, I would argue thatโs not cheating for the server op when making large builds
multiverse is pretty much the goto plugin
Oh so now I have to grind out a bunch of villagers instead ๐
lol
debian is ubuntu minus the garbage
creative mode is actually slower than a fast tool ๐
I hate villagers (and enchantments)
I meant plugin ๐
java isn't in the apt
openjdk is in apt
I will look at multiverse, ty kyle
I need sdkman for gradle anyways so can easily grab java
i hate villagers but its impossible to keep up with other server members without them
Itโs insta break if you smash your mouse like itโs cookie clicker, though not as fast if you just hold it down
and theyd get pissed at me if i removed them
A villager trading hall is creative mode with extra steps
welp I couldn't find it and I installed ubuntu
villager trading halls are fine if they are actually built properly
if your mindset is to install an entirely different operating system just because you couldn't find a package
Like, if you grind it out enough you can walk in with a stack of wheat and walk out with any item in the game
bruh it was 4 clicks to reinstall
it's 4 clicks to find a solution on google
You only really need 6 villagers in total to get all trades. Just slower. Agreed.
good point
All I know is Ubuntu/Debian is the best compared to red hat and centos for this Minecraft stuff. I had such a headache trying to get stuff to work on oracle Linux
it shouldn't matter
wait what oracle has a distro
yeh
Ya itโs a red hat fork
big thing i had to smack all my users for was making sure each villager had all of its POIs within reach so they would stop doing a billion checks for them
And a good builder can make it work with iron golem farm too
Itโs the default they have in their cloud but maybe because I am not a red hat expert I donโt get it. Most guides and tech support for Minecraft stuff is focused on Ubuntu
(although one of them isn't out yet)
ubuntu: makes a sensible version naming scheme
people: refuse to understand it
breh we all know they mean the 2022 LTS release 22.04
you say that but plenty of people install 22.10 or whatever
because they don't know what LTS is
lol
I run those versions on my stuff
hi. where should I ask for help about DiscordSRV plugin?
in the discordsrv discord
Lol long term support best for laziness as a sys admin ^^ less upgrading
is there a discordsrv chan? I think that every minecraft thing could use a weeb mascot
thanks
I'm picky about Ubuntu stuff ๐
I am impressed tho how well Ubuntu and Java stuff runs on arm. I moved my sever from a local intel i5 machine to the cloud on the ampere platform and the performance is impressive. I am also one of those horrible Mac users that gamers hate xD though the m1 chip has been great.
impossible. no. weebs.

I used to work on Ubuntu on ARM stuff, kind of
That's been a big effort for at least the last decade
they are wierd
I think we gotta make discord srv chan and shove it down thier throats
Wait, what?
uh
Apple just got a 10 year exclusivity deal for all MLS matches
question
No Apple TV? No soccer for you
What is MLS?
i found this subreddit that's called r/papermc and it's advertising to use fabric instead and i wanted to report it to the paper team
Oh lol it's Americans football league
this goal was brought to you by the macbook pro, powered by the M1 chip
that's fine
no one really cares and fabric is fine to use
ok
yes it's me!
just thought i would bring it to your attention, didn't know if you knew about it
I can make a subreddit called /r/jtbto that tells everyone you're a meanie, reddit won't let you do anything about it
aight let's ddos reddit untill they take it down (DON'T DO THIS)
pretty sure you can requirest subreddits that are squatted but ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
*request
Guess it falls under freedom of speech, but technically wouldn't it count as impersonation? or is it too ambiguous?
since the subreddit is called r/papermc
what is impersonated?
afaik so long as the top moderator is active on reddit (not even on that subreddit) some time in the last six months they'll just tell you to go pound sand
I can't find this subreddit
reddit offers everyone to create a subforum
and it's encouraged that it's managed by the community and not official representatives (although that one got muddy over the years)
i see
True, but in this case this person is definitely not a member of the community lol
yeah but that's not the point they're getting at
The MLS live and on-demand content on the Apple TV app will be available to anyone with internet access across all devices where the app can be found, including iPhone, iPad, Mac, Apple TV 4K, and Apple TV HD; Samsung, LG, Panasonic, Sony, TCL, VIZIO, and other smart TVs; Amazon Fire TV and Roku devices; PlayStation and Xbox gaming consoles; Chromecast with Google TV; and Comcast Xfinity. Fans can also watch on tv.apple.com.
huh
That's a whole lot of words to say "Android phones fuck off"
reddit is a community based forum page, essentially; this means that technically every single subreddit is considered a 'community' or 'fandom' or whatever you want to call it
so subreddits can post whatever they want so long as it isn't illegal content
does paper have a subreddit?
Idk though, I feel like Reddit would prefer an actual community rather than a glorified redirect
It puts freedom of creation into the hands of the end user
to that end reddit has no reason to step in unless otherwise a breach of TOS or illegal activities occur.
The Reddit admin team can transfer ownership though itโs a whole process. I remember someone with the account name of instagram being forced to change and they were making a big deal saying they have had the name for many years lol. I mean Facebook must have decided they want to create their own Reddit account
at least they made this thing private and don't post other shit, so there is literally zero chance someone would find it
If you have enough money, power, and don't care about being the bad guy on the internet that day I'm sure you can strongarm reddit in to doing things they normally wouldn't
I mean, imagine if r/discord said โuse guilded insteadโ
It would be 100% okay for someone to make /r/papermc and have all the posts be about how spigot is better though
And delete all the posts people tried to make to argue with them
Though yes especially if there is a trademark some copyright then the owner or founder of paper would have to reach out to Reddit and request it with the paperwork to prove it.
would be a big trolling tho
I donโt think private communities show up on search tho, so someone would need the link
what if r/spigotmc was full of posts saying that vanilla is better
I don't think you can use trademark here if the point of the subreddit is to say your thing sucks
Lol I mean could get the subreddit banned :p tho donโt want to abuse the reporting system
Though has happened before ha
No you can't
Thatโs not the point though, you could make r/papersucks, but the more mainstream r/papermc would have to allow it
Unless the subreddit is violating reddit global rules and the mods aren't doing a good job of stopping it they won't ban it
You can use trademark if they would appear to the consumer as the real papermc subreddit
No no, I'm saying trademark law wouldn't let you shut down my /r/papermc subreddit that's all about how paper is awful and you should use spigot
That is a big thing too, lots of Reddit are ran by fans and the creator of the media/software eve whatever doesnโt care about having an official subreddit
Cause a official subreddit means more work lol
shouldnโt go around saying youโre going to attempt to get a subreddit banned
If the subreddit pretended it was official and that mini was running it but told everyone to use skript and only skript you might have an argument but even then reddit would almost certainly just ignore you
Yeah as long as r/%title% is not p*rn or pro fr*nch the true creators wouldnโt do anything
๐ฅธ
uh
Also, there is a decent chance the mods havenโt been active in 60 days, but Iโm pretty sure it requires you to be a member in order to take over
let paper worry about their IP
An existing mod can make a request to take over the head mod in certain cases but itโs not easy.
how is this discussion/topic still going
Is there a trademark on papermc?
of course not
Guess people like Reddit :p
No, so you would have to use other arguments
Yeah, because itโs neat to see all the cool stuff people smarter than you create
Ok then they canโt take it down through legal threat even if it was impersonating a real papermc subreddit
I use it for trash memes and to watch people do dumb stuff and get hurt.
Which wasnโt my idea in the first place
I think, idk anymore lol
Maybe ask the moderator to change it to the paper Mc forums
oh nice ๐
Whatโs with the black boxes
Wot
person obviously too lazy or they dont care to remove it properly
so you just do black boxes
๐คทโโ๏ธ
whatever
not the point
look at the unicorn
โค๏ธ
It looks almost as tall as my friend lol
I created such a nice automated mob and golem farm with storage and I have so much iron that idk what to do with it anymore. At this point I am throwing iron blocks into lava to make space ha
Yeah Unicode unicorn is pog
Sorting system, thatโll solve your problem
Haha I have one, I love it, the dual chests for iron fills up and I turn them into blocks to put in other chests and still running out of space
K, then a sorting system for every stackable item
Maybe I should put like some pistons to stop the golem from falling to pause it
Hmm so the answer is more red stone, I guess can never go wrong with more red stone. Wish you could automate crafting
both blur and pixelation can be pretty easily removed unless you set it high enough and I couldn't find the setting for those lol
Would be cool if you could throw items at a villager and they would pick it up and drop their trade. Could automate that with droppers and a hopper. Maybe there is a plug-in for that. Sometimes I feel bad about forcing my villagers into a prison cell but I just act like they are having a great time lol
Also, @mental meadow in what way are you disabled? || if you donโt wana tell me just say it otherwise Iโll take it as you didnโt see the message||
wat
ok
Referring to this
i mean thats pretty private
Oki
Ya typically someone would specify it if they wanted to. Everyone is different on how open they are to the public about their personal life.
Even then though
If you want information about my personal life you can always follow me on twitter ig
considering the flak my husband gets for Cerebral Palsy "Because you aren't really disabled, you look fine to me" i'm amazed anyone talks about their disabilities
yeah if your disability is "invisible" a lot of people are a lot worse
I love the "you're walking fine you don't need a handicap parking spot" people. Always a joy to watch.
I like having buff as fuck arms.

litterally translates to "brain paralysis" and people are like "nah, you fine. move your shit out of the parking spot so my crotch goblin doesn't have to walk as far"
Oh ya my wife has fibromyalgia and sheโs in her 20s so itโs always so confusing to people that she โlooksโ fine but is actually in tons of pain. People can be pretty clueless about stuff. Mental health some just think you can easily get over or something like that
"you can't walk that far? Yeah but I'm a parent!" 
I planned to do something with a few other minecraft dev discord for mental health month but then mental health happened :')
oof, in her 20s? I didnโt know it could set in that early
my husband got a second degree burn on about 40% of his hand about two weeks ago and basically walked it off in 3 days and one morphine shot. almost fully healed now. some people just handle pain different
yeah everyone is different
Ya, started I think when she was 16 actually. Her mom has some of the same issues and guess just unlucky genetics
When was that
genetic lotto
May
@true canyon
sorry i dont understand this but does this mean paper 1.19 is out? Or just main parts of it?
#โ 1.19 message
see #announcements
It's out ^^
Ok now Iโm starting to wonder if the statistics for when it sets in are completely wrong, because I know someone who (might, hopefully not) have fibromyalgia and sheโs also 15 or 16
you literally just said "may" and i had a flash back to like 7 different teachers saying " i don't know, CAN you go to the bathroom?"
great!
I mean, now that I think of it, itโs probably a good thing they do it
It helps keep English slightly less ambiguous
Well statistics tend to be a bell curve so you always have people on the edges that fall outside a few standard deviation out
like, i guess? but i'm just trying to take a shit fam. i don't have time for this
Wow so many people know really disabled people, I donโt even know one lol
depending on who you ask, anyone over the age of 15 playing minecraft (or video games in general) is disabled. now you know lots of people!
You might just not be something you know. Lot of people suffer from depression and anxiety and even take medication for it but never tell friends or even other family
Can I cross the border? (USA)
Yes!
Aight gets shot
I wouldn't compare having physical disability with depression and social anxiety, but yeah
there's lots of things hidden
kneny core team when ๐
and this, my friends, is called ableism






