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golden gust
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still early builds and still some issues we're working on

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but, adding in a version mismatch is gonna potentially cause issues like via replacing blocks

lethal field
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Alright, but it would be wiser to wait then?

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with the velocity update

golden gust
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I mean, I'm not seeing reports of anything too breaking

lethal field
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Alright, I may give it a go then, because I really need to get on building somethings for the 1.19 update

stuck lava
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I'm running 3 waterfall servers and they're all fine

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not sure what's the deal with velocity tho

lethal field
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well, I do have a proxy test server, I shall test it lol

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Nope, velocity isn't supporting 1.19 yet

golden gust
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"isn't supporting"

stuck lava
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that's only cause paper ppl are too nice... instead of announcement they should quietly push 1.19 and just say it's not support for about a month or 2

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that's some 200 iq stuff

lethal field
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Sorry, I apologise if I said something wrong, english isn't my first language. And I do not expect anyone to kill themselves over working to get things done overnight. I was just wondering

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Didn't mean any insult

half kindle
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How many packets per second does/can a normal legit player send?

golden gust
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What I mean is, what you're saying makes 0 sense, and so I wanted it clarified

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velocity works with 1.19 just fine

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Well, bar a few issues

molten egret
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works fine for me

golden gust
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make sure that you're using the dev builds, not the release version

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post getting 1.19 out I really should push for a release...

molten egret
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stable is really looking like dolphin emu now

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dolphin has been on the same stable release for 5 years now

lethal field
molten egret
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I belive it polls the version from the backend server

lethal field
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Yup, I was doing something wrong, sorry for the confusion, it is all working fine

molten egret
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oki

valid quest
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I do not know where to ask this
But is there a download or something to add lots of bots to a server

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cracked server btw

lament patio
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Mineflayer, LambdaAttack

spare venture
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wow

valid quest
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what?

twin lagoon
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@viral hornet COME BACK

meager tusk
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No.

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I kidnapped Camm.

twin lagoon
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in what 1993 mercedes-benz are you hiding him in @meager tusk

valid quest
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@worthy geode Lol i have a minecraft account but im botting a p2w server

meager tusk
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He thinks it's a 1993 mercedes-benz.

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Oh no no no.

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He doesn't know.

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It's actually a 1989 Mercedes Benz.

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Dark red.

viral hornet
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how about you don't

valid quest
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why

viral hornet
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I already told you

lament patio
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Mfw

viral hornet
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cringe

meager tusk
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Camm came back just to air you, Michale.

valid quest
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cope

twin lagoon
meager tusk
twin lagoon
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average balkan car

meager tusk
twin lagoon
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i found out last week that albania's capital does not have a train station

meager tusk
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Albania doesn't have a metro system.

twin lagoon
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what does albania have

meager tusk
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As far as I know none of the western balkans have a metro system.

twin lagoon
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actually no so it gets better

meager tusk
twin lagoon
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because they got rid of the train station 3 years ago or something

meager tusk
twin lagoon
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to replace it with busses

meager tusk
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Yeah sounds about Albanian.

twin lagoon
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camm you cunt get back in that server

viral hornet
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@valid quest if you want to actually be productive, if the server is breaking the EULA you can report them (http://aka.ms/mce-reportserver). Botting/griefing/etc is... sad.

meager tusk
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Reporting you there Camm.

viral hornet
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Idriz ๐Ÿฅบ

meager tusk
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For being too cool.

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๐Ÿฅบ

viral hornet
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Michael ๐Ÿฅบ

twin lagoon
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wtf camm's just ignoring me now

viral hornet
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WOT

twin lagoon
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GET BACK IN THAT DISCORD SERVER

viral hornet
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yes sir

valid quest
viral hornet
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hmmmmm

rare python
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Dupe on the server, break it's economy

golden gust
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Please don't encourage that

rare python
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Why?

jade flax
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Promoting malicious behavior is typically frowned upon

golden gust
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  1. Because it violates various TOS and potentially illegal behavior
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  1. ignoring the cracked thing, who is the judge of this mess
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majority of the servers they target is literally "ohhh, it has paid ranks!"

floral mesa
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people assume p2w as anything that has some form of donation setup.

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sure, there are plenty of p2w servers out there, but for the most part I dont see much of a point going after them

spare venture
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there are better places to seek justice in the world

floral mesa
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pretty much, just let mojang enforce their eula if a network's only crime is being a pvp pay to win.

worthy geode
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there are also plenty of servers to play on, with probably a nearly identical concept, that are not p2w. So if you dislike it, just don't play there

scenic sleet
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Does the initial builds have warden etc

warm anchor
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It has everything vanilla has

scenic sleet
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So the warden?

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because it was turning it to stone

warm anchor
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Make sure your proxy and client are updated

scenic sleet
warm anchor
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#paper-help with more info than just โ€œnot workingโ€

void void
sharp spindle
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for all my linux users, what do u guys use to screenshot

lilac moon
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maim

twin lagoon
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flameshot

lilac moon
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flameshot always breaks randomly for me

simple garden
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Hey is anyone here familiar with multiverse

spare venture
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what about it

simple garden
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so i just started using mv and so far i got it running good accept 1 issue. So i made a new world for a hub, and i imported my old world via mv but when i use the nether portal it puts me into a new nether instead of my original nether. Is there anyway to link my old world with my old nether and not the new worlds nether?

spare venture
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are you using multiverse-netherportals? i don't think the core behavior is to create new nethers

but if you are, it should have a way to connect worlds

simple garden
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no but i am gonna grab it now

lament patio
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Iirc Multiverse looks for world_name + _nether

simple garden
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yall are my heros haha

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one more question, so my hub world is it possible to decrease the world boarder size to the size of my hub without effecting my main world?

spare venture
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the /worldborder command is world specific, so if you set the border in one world, it will only be set for that world

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similar to how gamerules are per-world

simple garden
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oh so i can set the world to constant night in 1 and the other will tick as normal?

spare venture
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yes

void void
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you guys know why when my server crash. The world is the same as the moment it's crashed, but the inventory is rolled back. How do I fix this?

worthy geode
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player inventories and chunks are saved at different points. easiest way to fix that is just fixing whatever causes the crash

void void
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okay, ty.

severe parrot
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there's no way to fix, since the inventory has not saved to the disk, server crashing just pop them away

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if your server's log contains no information about the crash, maybe due to lack of allocated RAM and the OS killed it, mostly this problem occurs on linux

lethal rain
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how i can get 1.12.2 paper version?

crystal lilyBOT
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To download old versions of Paper, click here โžก๏ธ papermc.io/legacy โฌ…๏ธ and fill out the questions. Note that old versions are completely unsupported and contain numerous bugs/exploits.

lethal rain
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ty โค๏ธ

merry talon
meager tusk
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they're too busy crashing

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kekwhyper ๐Ÿƒโ€โ™‚๏ธ

unkempt drift
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ok, maven central deployment is throwing me for a loop here... I publish to it, that succeeds, but its creating 2 staging repositories, 1 has 1 main jar artifact from one module, the other everything for both modules (sources, javadoc, signatures, pom) except the main jar artifact for 1 of them.

round blaze
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anyone know how to get worldedit working on 1.19

coarse lily
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Ask in the WorldEdit Discord?

round blaze
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nah

coarse lily
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They probably have 1.19 builds somewhere.

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Nah to which?

round blaze
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ill see thanks

coarse lily
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But yeah they have a whole Discord. They're the ones to ask.

peak ginkgo
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my auto updater broke i shouldnt be 4 versions behind sadJoegbh

worthy geode
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auto updater ๐Ÿ‘€

daring dune
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can you not bedrock break with tnt on paper

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that was a thing right

coarse lily
daring dune
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yeah figured

void void
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is the latest build for 1.19 stable?

swift root
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it is no longer experimental, basically yes

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basically, announcements

coarse venture
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Works fine so far, first 24 hours live

shy eagle
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Paper and velocity make the Minecraft experience so much better. PandaHeart

shy eagle
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Would suggest joining their discord EngineHub as it has lots of good info

magic river
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Why? It's only June!

primal solar
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oh you meant the plugin ๐Ÿ˜ณ

silver nexus
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Happy flag day!

void void
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Does anyone also have the problem when bedrock players start trading with enchantment villagers that they don't work, this problem is with enchantment villagers

void void
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how do i change the papermc /ver command

signal harbor
warm spoke
void void
warm spoke
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try with MyCommands or other plugin and create command as a replacement for /version

pastel reef
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Just a trivial question, what timings get reset exactly when a server restarts?

viral hornet
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@twin lagoon gm ๐Ÿฅบ

pastel reef
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Like melon growth progress and phantom spawning?

viral hornet
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I didn't think so? Atleast for phantoms

twin lagoon
wide chasm
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Melon growth process is determined by random tick iirc, so that doesn't have a timer attached to it.

echo tusk
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how to get access to #adorable-pets

sleek tree
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Post your cat, they decide if its adorable

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kekw

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that's how I did it

echo tusk
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where?

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where i post it

vernal moth
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We have a big tribunal where we decide if you are worthy

novel horizon
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Probably be known a little bit and prove that you have adorable kittie

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Yep, very big, very serious

echo tusk
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oh

novel horizon
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If you fail you get banned

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๐Ÿ‘€

mental meadow
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post here

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cute cat

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now

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!

coarse venture
sleek tree
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My cat is currently hiding somewhere ๐Ÿ˜‘

mental meadow
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it is I, master of cats

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one day i shall have one

novel horizon
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hmm

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I am right now thinking

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master or mistress ๐Ÿค”

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is it the same word?

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you don't have a cat ? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

sleek tree
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"I am the king of the world"

just need to get myself a world

That should be a skit in a cartoon tbh

echo tusk
novel horizon
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That's not a cat

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that's a noodle

sleek tree
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That last photo is how I wake up in the morning, then wonder why I ache so much

mental meadow
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accepted

novel horizon
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Look at this ๐Ÿ‘€

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that's suspicious

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hey

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wkizi1

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blink twice if you need help ๐Ÿ‘€

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oh also by the way

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after years of waiting here in paper

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i had taco

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it was delicious

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^^

coarse venture
mental meadow
novel horizon
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๐Ÿ˜ตโ€๐Ÿ’ซ

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how are you alive tho

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are you?

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๐Ÿค”

mental meadow
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other people care for me

novel horizon
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i am kinda alive still, so that's going on for me

mental meadow
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I can't care for myself

novel horizon
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yeah other people ^^

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maybe you could get a plushie cat ๐Ÿ‘€

mental meadow
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the joys of being disabled

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oh I have plushie cats. and sharks. and unicorn-alpacas

novel horizon
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nice โค๏ธ

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thats cool

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any pics? ๐Ÿ‘€

coarse venture
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unicorn-alpacas <- win

pastel reef
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So there was this plugin called VillagerNerf for 1.17 that I've been using on my Server for a while but I've been noticing a few bugs with it. Is there a still maintained alternative?

mental meadow
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it's like over 1m tall

coarse venture
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There's a new build for Wandering trades on jenkins now i see that updated dependencies. Hopefully it's resolved now?

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sure

spice ether
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Oh thanks for letting me know, time for new test round ๐Ÿ‘

coarse venture
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probably

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slachy; np, hopefully!

frank otter
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I didn't think a unicorn alpaca would be so

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I don't know a word but just like awwww

coarse venture
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You can remain respectful instead of acting like you just did. Just because you didn't understand the information in the announcement channel, does not mean you have to take it out on me because i have a fox icon. lol. do better.

mental meadow
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!warn @void void Ableist language is not allowed

thorny flickerBOT
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:raised_hands: Warned Bojack Horseman#3608 (Ableist language is not allowed) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.

mental meadow
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nvm

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!ban 985840254965653554 Ableist DM spam

thorny flickerBOT
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:raised_hands: Banned Bojack Horseman#3608 (Ableist DM spam) [2 total infractions] -- aurora#4484.

frank otter
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dang really resorted to personal insults

solid flower
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Damn

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That escalated quickly

coarse venture
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Imagine pointing out to people the info they want can be found in the announcement channel.

solid flower
void void
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Hi

coarse venture
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hi alien pig, welcome.

void void
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I am making a server and want to add some feature but don't know which plugin is required

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Can anyone help

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?

coarse venture
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What kind of features are you looking for?

void void
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Player head drop when killed and

coarse venture
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If you want to protect doors and chests, you could consider LWC-Extended, by pop. Or, if you want to add combat stuff, maybe search resources on spigot for titles with keyword combat or pvp. If you want build tools, maybe look into worldedit.
https://www.spigotmc.org/search/?type=resource_update click on [search titles only] and enter the keywords you want.

void void
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Ok

knotty rose
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Hello Peter

coarse venture
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sup peter

rare python
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To my knowledge datapacks should be avoided on Bukkit, I may be wrong.

knotty rose
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In that case

rare python
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And I'm pretty sure a chunk of it does not work

knotty rose
rare python
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Like custom dimensions

rare python
void void
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what's wrong with people

molten egret
molten egret
coarse venture
frail mirage
twin lagoon
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@cunning raft

void void
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i like the replaced number, did the previous attempts fail?

mossy vessel
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I'll repost it in Jroys server

void void
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also, that's not how app stores work lol

frail mirage
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The 1-5 star ratio would be funny

lament patio
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They will just be removed for review bombing ...
... Like it happened last time

frail mirage
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It happened before

coarse venture
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what, getting warned for posting crap/ ๐Ÿ˜„

cyan harness
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is there a way to make paper auto update

twin lagoon
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don't

molten egret
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you could

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it's not a good idea from what ive heard

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just make a java application that downloads the latest jar from the api then invoke it, and pass args through into it

coarse venture
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They have an api, you can go up the tree to find the latest build for the branch or whatever, and get the new jar if there's one . And then take it from there.

rare python
molten egret
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someone should make a drop in replacement

rare python
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That probably would not be too hard

molten egret
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yeah

void void
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why when creating the world i have keepinventory turned on and it only keeps the items in the normal world but in hell it dies??

twin lagoon
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gamerules are per world

void void
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Only happens in hell

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Yes Nether

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How to fix

twin lagoon
manic juniper
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My server host, Scalacube, still doesn't have Paper 1.19

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Ugh

lament patio
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Could always upload the jar

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Hopefully

void void
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how can I open config file of any plugin ?

spice ether
void void
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and is there a way to temporarily disable plugin on a server?

manic juniper
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I'd rather wait for server host beccause that way if something screws up I can use their customer service

coarse venture
coarse venture
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On windows you can use notepad++ for example to edit YAML files. on macOS you can use sublime text 4 ..

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point being, as long as it's not a word editor, but it's a proper text editor that understands config files like yaml, you should be good

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if you make a change and it all goes to shite, you can parse it through a yaml compliance checker; http://www.yamllint.com/

quasi cave
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sorry for being a noob, I imagine 1.19 is now good to go or should I wait a couple of weeks before upgrading the server from 1.18.2?

rare python
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It's mostly safe right now, although you should absolutely make a backup.

next plank
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what's the difference between Velocity and Waterfall?

rare python
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Velocity fast, but has less plugins

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Waterfall is basically the opposite

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Go Velocity if you can.

next plank
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ah so trying to replace Waterfall with Velocity

true canyon
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Velocity is the better choice but sometimes people really want a specific plugin that probably should just be on their servers not on the proxy. ๐Ÿ˜‚

next plank
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damn being here makes me feel like i have imposters syndrome

coarse venture
rare python
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Asking questions is important

next plank
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so if i develop a plugin using the Paper-API should It natively work on a Spigot server or nah?

twin lagoon
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no

next plank
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assuming versions are the same

rare python
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No it won't

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The APIs are not forwards compatible

next plank
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but Spigot Plugins seem to work on Paper Servers?

twin lagoon
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because paper implements the spigot api since it's built on top of spigot

next plank
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ooooooooooo

rare python
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Because Paper is backwards compatible

next plank
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okay i get that now

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okay so in other words fuck Spigot

rare python
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Yes

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The motto of any plugin / server developer

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Lol

next plank
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damn okay so hmm if i were to go about developing Public plugins, and wanted to post it on the Spigot "store" i'd need to re-code it?

twin lagoon
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nothing prevents you from developing it with both apis

coarse venture
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Spigot is fine, but once you know what you want out of your server, you eventually still are going to end up on paper anyway. if not only for having more things patched and dupes fixed, etc. stuff spigot doesn't always do.

rare python
coarse venture
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they dont

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they have to support spigot or they get removed when reported.

next plank
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damn just trying to find a decent place to "put my plugins" ๐Ÿ˜‚L

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yea but i mean for people to randomly stumble upon

coarse venture
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poly? mcm? github?

next plank
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did u say poly twice as a hint?

rare python
coarse venture
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sorry, meant git

next plank
rare python
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I wouldn't count on Hangar being available for a few months

next plank
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ah okay

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will have to keep an eye on it tbh

rare python
next plank
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seeing as i'm still a bit of an idiot i may stick with Spigot to try to "get my stuff" out there

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i use paper servers 100% of the time tho

void void
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to publish a resource on spigot the core functionality must be compatible with spigot

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you can have features that only work on paper, but that shouldn't be the main focus of your plugin on there

next plank
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i don't even know the difference between the two API's in terms of what features Paper has vs Spigot ๐Ÿ˜‚

quasi cave
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Well yes, they think of the name & simply add the suffix SMP or MC etc

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I mean what's your server about, anything floats imo

vernal moth
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Speaking of hangar, I have weekend now, so rest of the week is dedicated to hangar

limber knotBOT
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pretty sure an overview over the added api stuff is in the works but ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

vernal moth
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And well, the sun and stuff

vernal moth
quasi cave
quiet mesa
coarse venture
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Players ranting in DM that they lost their stuff to the warden - after asking if we have the warden, and me saying: they are there somewhere, go in prepared, we dont restore inventory. "its unfair, it's too powerful, i lost all my good stuff" welp. yeh.

quasi cave
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Oh you mean like other suffixes? I guess there is Craft

coarse venture
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they join, 3 minutes later they find it, then they die 5x and it's unfair. lol.

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they should be glad im too busy to check how they found it in 3 minutes ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜‰

quasi cave
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LOL for real

limber knotBOT
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only 21ยฐC for me today... but it's supposed to go to 37 on the weekend ๐Ÿ‘€

coarse venture
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uhm, let me check, i got new sensors!

quiet mesa
# vernal moth

i wanna a little of rain here xd

but in house the cold its not bad.... thanks "home office"

coarse venture
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Inside apartment

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Balcony

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Time to air out the apartment

vernal moth
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I wish I had a balcony

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But I guess the parks here are a good alternative

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Plus you always have fun people here

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Today we have a guy that looks like a terrorist but plays Jamaican music on his guitar

coarse venture
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.. k

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What makes him look like a terrorist?

coarse venture
vernal moth
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My headphone amp arrived, I didn't expect it to be so cute

coarse venture
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Now you can listen to music in 700dB

vernal moth
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Like compared to my old one they are tiny

coarse venture
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that headset looks comfy and like it delivers quality audio

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if not only because the wire isn't 2mm thick, haha

twin lagoon
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dt 1990 pro AYAYARie

coarse venture
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oh wow

vernal moth
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Crazy how a new amp sounds all different again

coarse venture
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xlr plug as well, nice.. my dac will like that

twin lagoon
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mini xlr

coarse venture
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3pin?

twin lagoon
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3 pin yes

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but mini

vernal moth
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Kek now I only need a shorter cable that doesn't weight a ton

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This looks ridiculous

coarse venture
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every time i have my headset and i walk into a store, i get asked to not film

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every time i wear airpods, nobody bothers me

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#perception

spice plinth
modest vigil
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Hey! I want to use BungeeCord and i have multipole servers running... Is there a plugin to let you PaperMc server running as a PaperMC server?

void void
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wat

unkempt drift
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wat is right.

waxen panther
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you heard the man

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i would like to use my papermc server as a papermc server

modest vigil
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Is there a plugin for Paper MC that let you Paper MC server running as a BungeeCord server...

rare python
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What

modest vigil
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That you with npc's can connect to another server. Is there a plugin?

rare python
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What

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Your not making any sense

unkempt drift
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I am struggling to understand what you mean. PaperMC is an organization, Paper is a java server, BungeeCord is a proxy for java servers

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You can use bungeecord with paper servers the same way you do with spigot servers

modest vigil
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Yes, but is there a plugin for "Paper java server" that you from a Paper Java Server to another Paper Java Server can connect to a mpc for example

rare python
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Do you mean switch between servers?

modest vigil
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Yes! And then i use a hub...

rare python
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Users can switch between servers using /server

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You need to give them the permission node bungeecord.command.server I think.

modest vigil
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I should look. Do i have nothing to install?

pulsar tide
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HexedHero got banned in Purpur with the reasoning being a community-wide ban

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anyone know more? eyes_right

vernal moth
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Don't think we should go into that drama here

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Fwiw they are banned here too

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If you care, ask them, they should know

spare venture
modest vigil
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Oki!

spare venture
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iirc they can also use bungee commands

vernal moth
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But I am not going to discuss that in public

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All I can say it seems pretty fucked up and stay away

modest vigil
spare venture
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maybe you should read up on what bungeecord is

jovial plover
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hey

potent wedge
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Stop using bungee cord revert to velocity

worthy geode
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Revert to RubberBand

limber knotBOT
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lilpad best amirite?!?

void void
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the server logo is the reason why i quit making servers

rare python
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Reject Paper, return to hMod.

twin lagoon
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what

jovial plover
void void
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cmon u get it dont you

twin lagoon
#

i don't

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please explain

void void
#

thats kinda sad

worthy geode
#

Explain

twin lagoon
#

i am simply unaware and would like an explanation

void void
#

nah

twin lagoon
#

why not?

void void
#

yes

jovial plover
#

reject bungee, use velocity

worthy geode
#

reject updates, use 3.1.1

jovial plover
#

which was the latest

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when i installed

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a few days ago

limber knotBOT
#

ok, the animation for Minecraft Legends in the launcher was pretty cute lol

rare python
#

Reject Fabric, return to Forge. kekw

meager tusk
#

Reject Forge. Return to patching the jar.

hazy badger
#

Yo guys

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How much this CPU is good for minecraft server?

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i know nothing about xeon

twin lagoon
#

that cpu doesn't exist

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the e-2236 however, will be fine

hazy badger
#

it doesn't exist

#

Are you sure?

twin lagoon
#

the e3-2236 does not exist no

hazy badger
#

tf is this hosting saying so?

jade flax
#

Probably a typo

worthy geode
#

they got the frequency and core count right, so its probably the right one, just messed up the name

hazy badger
#

mh

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is it a good cpu in single thread?

#

can it handle a survival server with around 100 players? Obviously with all the world pregenerated and worldborder on, all .yml optimized ect!

ripe sphinx
#

given the simple fact that it's not a 5950x I'm going to guess probably not, since on modern MC you need some quite powerful hardware for 100 players

hazy badger
#

how much could it handle without lag?

ripe sphinx
#

impossible to tell

shy eagle
#

It might if you have the ram and solid state drives to back it. Are you running this at home or is this in the cloud ?

hazy badger
#

cloud

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it's a hosting

worthy geode
#

its one of the cheaper xeons iirc, so I doubt it can handle 100 players in a normal setting.
100 players when everyone is at spawn maybe, but not much else

shy eagle
#

Like 100 people who play on the server maybe, though idk about all 100 being online at the same time@

ripe sphinx
#

I mean performance only cares about concurrent players

hazy badger
#

i mean 100 online players

ripe sphinx
#

usually when people say playercounts that's what they mean, although in 90% of cases when people ask if something can handle 100 players, they don't acually have the players

shy eagle
#

You would just have to try, lot of cloud providers are elastic and you can upgrade the specs as needed. Well with some data transferring.

hazy badger
#

i don't have them right now but i'll have them soon

ripe sphinx
#

uh huh

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anyways try it, if it's not good enough, upgrade

worthy geode
#

if you don't have them right now, you can always upgrade later if the need arises

ripe sphinx
#

Because I hate to burst your bubble, but unless you either are a large content creator or have something incredibly unique and engaging on your server, you will not get 100 concurrent

hazy badger
worthy geode
#

I hope you got Geyser, I feel like tiktok is 90% bedrock players kekw

hazy badger
#

Nah, i already had a server with 200 concurrent

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and 90% of them was java

shy eagle
worthy geode
#

but if you are going for an SMP, like all the tiktok servers, that CPU isn't gonna cut it for 100 players for sure

worthy geode
#

impossible to say

hazy badger
#

I mean i'm using a terrible ovh vps

#

and i'm handling 30 players with no problems

#

because right now i'm in beta

lament patio
#

30 is fairly easy

hazy badger
#

and i still didn't sponsor it

#

yeah i know

#

But if a cheap ovh vps can handle 30 players

#

maybe a dedicated with that cpu can handle more then that

worthy geode
#

it does not really scale like that

#

is there a reason you want that exact cpu?

hazy badger
#

It's just a "good offert" i found

worthy geode
#

its kinda average, not the worst, but also not good

hazy badger
#

any good european hosting for dedicated wich is not ovh or hetzner?

ripe sphinx
# worthy geode it does not really scale like that

yeah once you get over 30 it gets progressively harder and harder to run, 100 is about the realistic limit of how many players you can get on a single instance before having to severely nerf core things for performance.

worthy geode
#

Hetzner is pretty much unbeatable in terms of the hardware you get for the money you pay

ripe sphinx
#

(as long as you don't need DDoS prot, since theirs is effectively non-existent)

worthy geode
#

tcpshield should be fine for minecraft servers in that regard

ripe sphinx
#

yeah

#

and then Cloudflare for any websites etc

rare python
#

If / when Paper deprecates Material, the deprecation warnings in my plugin will go from around 1,500 to 3,000... save me from legacy code

hazy badger
#

what about dedicated?

#

What's the better one? ryzen 5 3600 / i7 6700

vagrant marlin
worthy geode
hazy badger
lament patio
#

(Both are worse than the xeon btw)

hazy badger
#

oh i see

vagrant marlin
#

dont think you will get anything cheaper than ovh with most european hosts

#

how was your experience bad with hetzner?

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when i used them, i had no complaints

hazy badger
#

to much sort of verification, i contacted their support service and it was so bad

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no info

vagrant marlin
twin lagoon
#

no

hazy badger
worthy geode
#

if it was my project I would go with one of hetzners AX servers + tcpshield. even if you need one of tcpshields paid plans it very likely is still cheaper than other options.
And if you really get 100 players, even the most expensive AX server for 94โ‚ฌ/month should be affordable

twin lagoon
#

do not use multipaper

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it does not solve anything

worthy geode
#

its not stable

vagrant marlin
#

all are bad

twin lagoon
#

it is guaranteed going to be buggy as hell

#

it is unnecessary for 100 players

ripe sphinx
#

I assume multipaper tries to hack multiple paper instances into one?

vagrant marlin
#

even paper can handle 100 players

twin lagoon
#

it has a single point of failure which is it's master messaging system

#

it's simply shifting the performance problem away to another system

ripe sphinx
#

wee

worthy geode
#

also most of your plugins won't work

hazy badger
vagrant marlin
twin lagoon
ripe sphinx
#

yeah there's a shocker

vagrant marlin
#

ryzen 7 3700x

worthy geode
#

Multipaper is fine for doing events and stuff. But I would not use it for anything long term

twin lagoon
vagrant marlin
#

is that so?

worthy geode
#

maybe with continued development in a few months/years, of all the full sharding solutions so far its imo the best one. but its not production ready right now

vagrant marlin
#

what about plugins that dont support mysql

worthy geode
#

which is not feasible for the average smp

twin lagoon
ripe sphinx
twin lagoon
#

definitely the most worked out one publicly available

#

but i wouldn't touch it in a 5 mile radius

vagrant marlin
#

would you touch it with a 6 mile long stick?

twin lagoon
#

i also question how redstone works

ripe sphinx
#

I think overall vortex is the best one currently, but of course that's closed source

twin lagoon
#

vortex doesn't solve these issues completely either

#

different usecases

ripe sphinx
#

eh true

worthy geode
#

yeah closed source sharding has existed for a while in a somewhat usable state

twin lagoon
#

vortex probably is one of the nicer solutions out there though

worthy geode
#

Never heard of it tbh

ripe sphinx
#

yeah I guess egg hasn't needed to worry about redstone and stuff since all the main logic is either off-the-shelf plugins or skript

worthy geode
#

ah vortex is eggs?

ripe sphinx
#

Vortex is Egg's one for MrBeast's 1000+ player events, is closed source and private though

twin lagoon
#

it doesn't rely on a paper fork, has a fallback for the single point of failure issue using raft consensus, all just a plugin

worthy geode
#

is it doing entity replication?

twin lagoon
#

it synchronizes entities & AI if we want to believe kenny's twitter

worthy geode
#

time to follow kenny on twitter kekw

twin lagoon
#

https://twitter.com/kennytvn/status/1490444746904551434 this same issue will occur on multipaper

@exerosis That sort of implementation/sharding a world works well for survival worlds or places players are spread out, but falls short when you have thousands of players crammed up in the same place - since thatโ€™s the use case for MBG videos, we chose to scale with servers horizontally

#

it literally does not solve anything

worthy geode
#

it seemed to have worked well for that tho

#

Have you seen the prison simulation video?

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~850 players in 10x10 chunks with MP

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even PvP seemed quite decent

lament patio
#

Hey, is anyone around to grant the sponsor role?

hazy badger
twin lagoon
vagrant marlin
#

ax51, as i said before

worthy geode
hazy badger
#

could it handle 100 players?

twin lagoon
#

it'll handle 100 players if you optimize things properly yes

hazy badger
#

I already have everything optimized properly

#

survival with all world preloaded and with a 20k x 20k border

ripe sphinx
#

I'm going to assume smp

#

yup

vagrant marlin
#

is that question necessary

#

it'll be fine

#

minigame or not

ripe sphinx
#

but yeah in general 100 spread out vs 100 in one area doesn't make much of a difference

worthy geode
#

just throw mythicmobs in and it will no longer be fine kekw

ripe sphinx
vagrant marlin
#

that is true

hazy badger
#

i hate mm

vagrant marlin
#

ok?

#

an smp would still be fine

worthy geode
#

MM is ehh. but its the only public plugin that can do what it does, so lots of people use it

void void
shy eagle
#

The big servers like hypixle have tons of Java servers, many just copies of each other and they distribute the players thought the servers. Mmos do the same thing. Normally if two people want to play together there is an npc to go to so yโ€™all can be on the same sever, or they group up in a team and the servers know to put them together.

vagrant marlin
#

what

ripe sphinx
#

they're saying how a minigame network can scale up servers massively to handle the load instead of needing a bunch of beefy servers

mental meadow
#

jo

vagrant marlin
#

yeah, but i dont understand the goal of what was said

#

what does it relate to

shy eagle
#

Sorry late reply to some stuff people were talking about before lol

lament patio
#

Thanks!

shy eagle
#

Not sure how tb2t handles it though, seems like some many people on one map but guessing they have some trickery in the backend to handle it.

worthy geode
#

2b2t? they don't, they just have a long queue

shy eagle
#

Ah right, remember hearing some people waiting an hour to just play lol seems pointless

ripe sphinx
#

I thought it was like 8h without their priorty queue thing

worthy geode
#

and they have no interest in changing that because the queue is how they make money

shy eagle
#

Lol people are really dedicated to wait that long

twin lagoon
#

2b2- ResidentSleeper

worthy geode
#

whats a prio ban?

ripe sphinx
#

banned from the priority queue I believe

void void
#

banned from purchasing priority queue yeah

ripe sphinx
#

so effectively a ban

void void
#

and since the queue is so long it's a massive pain ^

worthy geode
#

so you pay money and still need to wait like a poor peasant? lol

unkempt jackal
#

I guess that the no rules extends to the admin having no rules for himself then

worthy geode
#

admin just knows you can make a lot of money without putting much work into it

vernal moth
#

Anarchy is a myth

worthy geode
#

but tbh I just don't get the appeal of anarchy servers anyways

shy eagle
#

Ya there are some rules just not many. Famous one being lag machines will get you banned

ripe sphinx
#

yeah there are rules, they're just ones to protect the server itself

worthy geode
#

Anarchy in an online environment is simply something that does not work

shy eagle
#

People like to grief and troll without being banned lol

vernal moth
#

Anarchy doesn't work period, lol

#

Laws exists, you are not exempt from them

#

Just because you label yourself as anarchy

worthy geode
shy eagle
#

Normal smp server you will get kicked for blowing up others builds and targeting other players. But with the anarchy label it just means a free for all pvp map

limber knotBOT
#

anarchy is about being allowed to use exploits and "cheat" clients

#

it's not about pvp lol

hazy badger
#

never seen a bot so smart before

twin lagoon
#

irc

unkempt jackal
#

he is an advanced ai

hazy badger
#

yeah i imagine

#

the creator is op

unkempt jackal
#

he just has gamer fuel, that's how he programmed pheonix616 bot

shy eagle
worthy geode
limber knotBOT
#

pretty insane on what people will waste their time... ๐Ÿ‘€

#

but eve exists so ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

is it really a game though when you write custom tooling and programs to not actually play the game?

#

I mean I get that it's a hobby but ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

ripe sphinx
#

I mean different games have different levels of wasting time though, like I don't get the point of the clicker games aside from like burning 5 minutes

limber knotBOT
#

number go up!

ripe sphinx
#

yeah but like if someone can automate the game, what's the point in you playing it? And I know people have automated cookie clicker

twin lagoon
#

Let's say that your base is 1mln from spawn.

limber knotBOT
#

I personally would just teleport

#

runs

twin lagoon
#

sounds like this is the issue

magic river
#

clicker games are the skinner box with almost all the artifice stripped off

unkempt jackal
#

at least games are a safer time waste than drugs

limber knotBOT
#

depends on the drug

#

runs

#

(sugar seems to be a pretty safe and accepted one)

unkempt jackal
#

caffeine is also safe and accepted

ripe sphinx
#

beat me to it dammit

limber knotBOT
#

well, you get a caffeine overdose a lot faster imo

shy eagle
ripe sphinx
#

Yeah I mean I know people have "beaten" mc using AI too, but that's not really the main goal of MC

#

ok lemme reprhase, being able to automate the entire game is pointless. Cookie clicker is like that. Being able to automate portions of a much more complicated games, is good, and you're right a much more interesting project

silver nexus
#

That just defeats the point of the game lol

#

You wouldn't be playing at that point, you're just sitting there.

limber knotBOT
#

imo automation for the sake of automation as a hobby is fine, but it's not playing a game/gaming anymore

novel horizon
#

Literally tons of games

limber knotBOT
#

show me a factorio world that can't be improved

#

also the game of factorio is building a factory that does stuff automatically. it's not building the factory for you (unless you download blueprints)

ripe sphinx
#

Well yeah, but there's Automating the entire game vs automation being part of the game

placid thicket
#

the self replicating rail factorioes are pretty cool, but most factorio worlds that can't be improved are because of hardware limits not game limits

limber knotBOT
#

hardware limits aren't real limits

placid thicket
#

well sure if you got money

magic river
#

Wait Starfield is Elder Scrolls No Man's Sky?

#

Fuck

ripe sphinx
limber knotBOT
#

yes

shy eagle
#

Haha that is the joke people are calling it

limber knotBOT
#

? I literally said that only playing a game is playing a game

shy eagle
#

Maybe someday we will get elder scrolls 6

limber knotBOT
#

if you think that 1 == 1 is false then I don't know... lol

placid thicket
#

as far as minecraft goes, the process of figuring out the automation myself is the fun part, i don't like to use other peoples builds except to figure out how they work, and bots are off limits in most places

magic river
#

For MC you're supposed to put on some electronic music and enter a zen state for 2 hours while you burn through an inventory of shovels

limber knotBOT
#

well is your boss a worker if he pays you to do their job on the factory floor? pretty sure marx already answered that question a while ago

#

runs

placid thicket
#

but you lose the opportunity to turn to the guy next to you and say "i have done nothing but mine netherite by hand for 14 hours straight" and get that delicious look of "wtf is wrong with you"

unkempt jackal
shy eagle
#

Haha that is a debate question. Depending on who you ask the boss is the hardest working and others say they are useless and just steals money.

void void
magic river
#

Don't screw with mending for stripping the dirt off a square mile, just chew through a bunch of stone or iron shovels

placid thicket
#

def not something i recently did or anything...

shy eagle
ripe sphinx
#

I mean eff + haste 2 vs tons of stone shovels, I know which I'd rather

magic river
#

You're not supposed to get done fast

#

This is decompression time

shy eagle
#

I am a cheater and use worldedit for large projects but shrugs

placid thicket
#

especially because mining nether quarts provides all the mending XP you ever need.

magic river
#

Before you know it you've listened to every deadmau5 song and the server is screaming at you for destroying all the land around spawn ๐Ÿ˜„

hazy badger
placid thicket
#

bring a few stacks of nether quartz ore with you and you can just keep going for hours

ripe sphinx
#

^ whenever I go grinding netherite I usually get enough quartz to be able to go ham with my fortune pick for a few minutes and get back to near-full

limber knotBOT
#

@runic swanomonPicos because there was an error loading the configuration of the server

ripe sphinx
#

if not 20 minutes of caving usually solves that

magic river
#

We're talking about dirt though

hazy badger
ripe sphinx
#

XP farm then

shy eagle
#

Gotta keep a silk touch axe and a fortune axe on you. You can always put the axe on your shield spot and go on a killing rampage at night lol

magic river
#

You're complaining about the grind to get all this dirt but you're trying to add more grind to keep a mending tool going so you can grind out the dirt a little faster

ripe sphinx
#

I mean instabreak vs stone shovel...

hazy badger
#

ubuntu 18 or 20?

magic river
#

And don't forget the grind to get a mending tool

hazy badger
#

wich is the best?

ripe sphinx
#

Villie trading hall

placid thicket
#

and you got any idea how much wood is needed for that many shovels?

molten egret
magic river
#

The versions are 18.04 and 20.04, not 18 and 20

spice plinth
#

Somewhat off topic but is there a decent multi-world plugin for paper 1.19? Like, I want a 'core' world with teleports to the other worlds on the same server

magic river
#

And if possible you want 22.04, otherwise 20.04

lament patio
#

Mod?

hazy badger
#

okay what's the best?

twin lagoon
#

debian 11

lament patio
#

There's the Multiverse plugin

shy eagle
#

Ya I mean you can go into creative mode to remove the dirt that way, I would argue thatโ€™s not cheating for the server op when making large builds

limber knotBOT
#

multiverse is pretty much the goto plugin

twin lagoon
#

you simply install debian 11

#

not ubuntu

magic river
ripe sphinx
#

lol

hazy badger
#

i always used ubuntu

#

isn't ubuntu okayยง?

twin lagoon
#

debian is ubuntu minus the garbage

limber knotBOT
#

creative mode is actually slower than a fast tool ๐Ÿ‘€

magic river
#

I hate villagers (and enchantments)

spice plinth
molten egret
twin lagoon
#

openjdk is in apt

unkempt jackal
#

I am very annoyed at villager trading halls

#

and elytra

spice plinth
#

I will look at multiverse, ty kyle

ripe sphinx
#

I need sdkman for gradle anyways so can easily grab java

silver nexus
shy eagle
#

Itโ€™s insta break if you smash your mouse like itโ€™s cookie clicker, though not as fast if you just hold it down

silver nexus
#

and theyd get pissed at me if i removed them

magic river
#

A villager trading hall is creative mode with extra steps

molten egret
placid thicket
#

villager trading halls are fine if they are actually built properly

twin lagoon
#

if your mindset is to install an entirely different operating system just because you couldn't find a package

magic river
#

Like, if you grind it out enough you can walk in with a stack of wheat and walk out with any item in the game

twin lagoon
#

linux might not be it for you

molten egret
twin lagoon
#

it's 4 clicks to find a solution on google

warm anchor
molten egret
shy eagle
#

All I know is Ubuntu/Debian is the best compared to red hat and centos for this Minecraft stuff. I had such a headache trying to get stuff to work on oracle Linux

molten egret
#

it shouldn't matter

frank otter
#

wait what oracle has a distro

molten egret
#

yeh

shy eagle
#

Ya itโ€™s a red hat fork

placid thicket
twin lagoon
#

oracle has a flavour of centos/rhel

#

you can even move from centos to oracle

warm anchor
magic river
#

It's not 22

#

Ubuntu 22 could mean two different releases

shy eagle
#

Itโ€™s the default they have in their cloud but maybe because I am not a red hat expert I donโ€™t get it. Most guides and tech support for Minecraft stuff is focused on Ubuntu

magic river
#

(although one of them isn't out yet)

unkempt jackal
#

ubuntu: makes a sensible version naming scheme
people: refuse to understand it

molten egret
twin lagoon
#

you say that but plenty of people install 22.10 or whatever

#

because they don't know what LTS is

molten egret
#

lol

magic river
#

I run those versions on my stuff

void yarrow
#

hi. where should I ask for help about DiscordSRV plugin?

twin lagoon
#

in the discordsrv discord

shy eagle
#

Lol long term support best for laziness as a sys admin ^^ less upgrading

ripe sphinx
unkempt jackal
#

is there a discordsrv chan? I think that every minecraft thing could use a weeb mascot

void yarrow
#

thanks

magic river
#

I'm picky about Ubuntu stuff ๐Ÿ˜›

shy eagle
#

I am impressed tho how well Ubuntu and Java stuff runs on arm. I moved my sever from a local intel i5 machine to the cloud on the ampere platform and the performance is impressive. I am also one of those horrible Mac users that gamers hate xD though the m1 chip has been great.

unkempt jackal
magic river
#

I used to work on Ubuntu on ARM stuff, kind of

#

That's been a big effort for at least the last decade

molten egret
#

I think we gotta make discord srv chan and shove it down thier throats

unkempt jackal
#

wait, its you!

#

axolotl bucket

magic river
#

Wait, what?

visual fern
#

uh

magic river
#

Apple just got a 10 year exclusivity deal for all MLS matches

visual fern
#

question

magic river
#

No Apple TV? No soccer for you

vernal moth
#

What is MLS?

twin lagoon
#

american stuff mini

#

moving on

visual fern
#

i found this subreddit that's called r/papermc and it's advertising to use fabric instead and i wanted to report it to the paper team

vernal moth
#

Oh lol it's Americans football league

unkempt jackal
#

this goal was brought to you by the macbook pro, powered by the M1 chip

twin lagoon
#

no one really cares and fabric is fine to use

visual fern
#

ok

molten egret
vernal moth
#

Nothing we can do about it

#

Idiots gotta be idiots

visual fern
#

just thought i would bring it to your attention, didn't know if you knew about it

magic river
molten egret
limber knotBOT
#

pretty sure you can requirest subreddits that are squatted but ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

visual fern
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

limber knotBOT
#

*request

visual fern
#

Guess it falls under freedom of speech, but technically wouldn't it count as impersonation? or is it too ambiguous?

#

since the subreddit is called r/papermc

limber knotBOT
#

what is impersonated?

magic river
#

afaik so long as the top moderator is active on reddit (not even on that subreddit) some time in the last six months they'll just tell you to go pound sand

unkempt jackal
#

I can't find this subreddit

limber knotBOT
#

reddit offers everyone to create a subforum

#

and it's encouraged that it's managed by the community and not official representatives (although that one got muddy over the years)

visual fern
#

i see

eager orbit
visual fern
#

yeah but that's not the point they're getting at

magic river
#

The MLS live and on-demand content on the Apple TV app will be available to anyone with internet access across all devices where the app can be found, including iPhone, iPad, Mac, Apple TV 4K, and Apple TV HD; Samsung, LG, Panasonic, Sony, TCL, VIZIO, and other smart TVs; Amazon Fire TV and Roku devices; PlayStation and Xbox gaming consoles; Chromecast with Google TV; and Comcast Xfinity. Fans can also watch on tv.apple.com.

wet storm
magic river
#

That's a whole lot of words to say "Android phones fuck off"

visual fern
#

reddit is a community based forum page, essentially; this means that technically every single subreddit is considered a 'community' or 'fandom' or whatever you want to call it

#

so subreddits can post whatever they want so long as it isn't illegal content

#

does paper have a subreddit?

eager orbit
visual fern
#

It puts freedom of creation into the hands of the end user

#

to that end reddit has no reason to step in unless otherwise a breach of TOS or illegal activities occur.

shy eagle
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The Reddit admin team can transfer ownership though itโ€™s a whole process. I remember someone with the account name of instagram being forced to change and they were making a big deal saying they have had the name for many years lol. I mean Facebook must have decided they want to create their own Reddit account

wet storm
# wet storm huh

at least they made this thing private and don't post other shit, so there is literally zero chance someone would find it

magic river
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If you have enough money, power, and don't care about being the bad guy on the internet that day I'm sure you can strongarm reddit in to doing things they normally wouldn't

eager orbit
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I mean, imagine if r/discord said โ€œuse guilded insteadโ€

magic river
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It would be 100% okay for someone to make /r/papermc and have all the posts be about how spigot is better though

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And delete all the posts people tried to make to argue with them

shy eagle
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Though yes especially if there is a trademark some copyright then the owner or founder of paper would have to reach out to Reddit and request it with the paperwork to prove it.

shy eagle
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I donโ€™t think private communities show up on search tho, so someone would need the link

unkempt jackal
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what if r/spigotmc was full of posts saying that vanilla is better

magic river
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I don't think you can use trademark here if the point of the subreddit is to say your thing sucks

molten egret
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Ehhh

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Yeah

shy eagle
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Lol I mean could get the subreddit banned :p tho donโ€™t want to abuse the reporting system

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Though has happened before ha

magic river
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No you can't

eager orbit
magic river
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Unless the subreddit is violating reddit global rules and the mods aren't doing a good job of stopping it they won't ban it

molten egret
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You can use trademark if they would appear to the consumer as the real papermc subreddit

vernal moth
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We don't need nor want a subreddit

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We got discord and the forums

magic river
shy eagle
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That is a big thing too, lots of Reddit are ran by fans and the creator of the media/software eve whatever doesnโ€™t care about having an official subreddit

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Cause a official subreddit means more work lol

spare venture
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shouldnโ€™t go around saying youโ€™re going to attempt to get a subreddit banned

magic river
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If the subreddit pretended it was official and that mini was running it but told everyone to use skript and only skript you might have an argument but even then reddit would almost certainly just ignore you

molten egret
waxen panther
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๐Ÿฅธ

magic river
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uh

eager orbit
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Also, there is a decent chance the mods havenโ€™t been active in 60 days, but Iโ€™m pretty sure it requires you to be a member in order to take over

spare venture
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let paper worry about their IP

shy eagle
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An existing mod can make a request to take over the head mod in certain cases but itโ€™s not easy.

twin lagoon
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how is this discussion/topic still going

molten egret
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Is there a trademark on papermc?

twin lagoon
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of course not

shy eagle
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Guess people like Reddit :p

eager orbit
eager orbit
molten egret
shy eagle
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I use it for trash memes and to watch people do dumb stuff and get hurt.

eager orbit
eager orbit
molten egret
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Maybe ask the moderator to change it to the paper Mc forums

novel horizon
molten egret
novel horizon
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bro

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you know why do you ask

molten egret
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Wot

novel horizon
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person obviously too lazy or they dont care to remove it properly

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so you just do black boxes

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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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whatever

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not the point

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look at the unicorn

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โค๏ธ

eager orbit
shy eagle
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I created such a nice automated mob and golem farm with storage and I have so much iron that idk what to do with it anymore. At this point I am throwing iron blocks into lava to make space ha

molten egret
eager orbit
shy eagle
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Haha I have one, I love it, the dual chests for iron fills up and I turn them into blocks to put in other chests and still running out of space

eager orbit
shy eagle
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Maybe I should put like some pistons to stop the golem from falling to pause it

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Hmm so the answer is more red stone, I guess can never go wrong with more red stone. Wish you could automate crafting

mental meadow
novel horizon
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yeah

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black box is just too simple and effective

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but it's pretty nice ^^

shy eagle
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Would be cool if you could throw items at a villager and they would pick it up and drop their trade. Could automate that with droppers and a hopper. Maybe there is a plug-in for that. Sometimes I feel bad about forcing my villagers into a prison cell but I just act like they are having a great time lol

molten egret
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Also, @mental meadow in what way are you disabled? || if you donโ€™t wana tell me just say it otherwise Iโ€™ll take it as you didnโ€™t see the message||

magic river
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wat

eager orbit
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ok

molten egret
mental meadow
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i mean thats pretty private

novel horizon
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๐Ÿ‘€

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I'll tell you

molten egret
novel horizon
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maybe

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||it is because of taking care of people in paper discord||

shy eagle
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Ya typically someone would specify it if they wanted to. Everyone is different on how open they are to the public about their personal life.

novel horizon
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Even then though

mental meadow
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If you want information about my personal life you can always follow me on twitter ig

novel horizon
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lots of people aren't comfortable about it

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๐Ÿ‘€

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gotta follow aurora

placid thicket
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considering the flak my husband gets for Cerebral Palsy "Because you aren't really disabled, you look fine to me" i'm amazed anyone talks about their disabilities

novel horizon
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๐Ÿ‘

mental meadow
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yeah if your disability is "invisible" a lot of people are a lot worse

true canyon
novel horizon
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yeah, true

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"how can you have wheelchair if you can walk ๐Ÿ˜  "

meager tusk
placid thicket
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litterally translates to "brain paralysis" and people are like "nah, you fine. move your shit out of the parking spot so my crotch goblin doesn't have to walk as far"

novel horizon
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but hey

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maybe they also have disability and you're doing what they are doing ๐Ÿ‘€

shy eagle
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Oh ya my wife has fibromyalgia and sheโ€™s in her 20s so itโ€™s always so confusing to people that she โ€œlooksโ€ fine but is actually in tons of pain. People can be pretty clueless about stuff. Mental health some just think you can easily get over or something like that

true canyon
mental meadow
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I planned to do something with a few other minecraft dev discord for mental health month but then mental health happened :')

eager orbit
placid thicket
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my husband got a second degree burn on about 40% of his hand about two weeks ago and basically walked it off in 3 days and one morphine shot. almost fully healed now. some people just handle pain different

novel horizon
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yeah everyone is different

shy eagle
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Ya, started I think when she was 16 actually. Her mom has some of the same issues and guess just unlucky genetics

placid thicket
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genetic lotto

mental meadow
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May

twin lagoon
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@true canyon

gaunt temple
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sorry i dont understand this but does this mean paper 1.19 is out? Or just main parts of it?
#โ— 1.19 message

mental meadow
vernal moth
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It's out ^^

eager orbit
placid thicket
# mental meadow May

you literally just said "may" and i had a flash back to like 7 different teachers saying " i don't know, CAN you go to the bathroom?"

gaunt temple
eager orbit
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It helps keep English slightly less ambiguous

shy eagle
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Well statistics tend to be a bell curve so you always have people on the edges that fall outside a few standard deviation out

placid thicket
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like, i guess? but i'm just trying to take a shit fam. i don't have time for this

molten egret
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Wow so many people know really disabled people, I donโ€™t even know one lol

placid thicket
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depending on who you ask, anyone over the age of 15 playing minecraft (or video games in general) is disabled. now you know lots of people!

shy eagle
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You might just not be something you know. Lot of people suffer from depression and anxiety and even take medication for it but never tell friends or even other family

eager orbit
novel horizon
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I wouldn't compare having physical disability with depression and social anxiety, but yeah

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there's lots of things hidden

charred sleet
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kneny core team when ๐Ÿ‘€

mental meadow
shy eagle
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Damn Iโ€™m 28 and still playing Minecraft. Need to go back to EVE online with all the old people

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Everyone I played with on EVE was like old xD