general

[simple garden]

Like how essentials has a mail system.

[molten egret]

I haven't seen a single person use it

people just dm on the discord

[simple garden]

That is cause... cause we'll I don't why lol.

Yeah but but but it would be cool being chased down by a villager with there mc court summons lol

[molten egret]

a- a what?

[south raptor]

what if the server is public and not everyone is on your discord

[simple garden]

Mc court summons to be on the mc jury duty

[molten egret]

send them an invite link

that's what I do

[south raptor]

yeah but you can't go tracking people down to join a discord to send them a single message

and not everyone will want to join

[molten egret]

I have my chat linked

[simple garden]

I have my dc displayed on a clickable sign but not everyone uses it.

[molten egret]

so I usually ask people and they join

the people who don't join are usually irrelevant

anyone who acually cares a bit just joins

[south raptor]

a mail system would make sure you can send to anyone

but I think most people just whisper anyway

[molten egret]

steal the code from essentialsx

dissable the other parts with //

essentialsx is like everything important but lacking in some way

like the tp command that it adds is horrible

the vannila picker is wayyy better

and thier /give is also bad

[simple garden]

Dude the villager is trying to break into my house to give me a letter that say test lol!!!

[south raptor]

you can use essentialsx and disable all other features

[south raptor]

like what they said

[simple garden]

The point of the system for me is to send the rules to all players that join the system for the first time via a command block and a tag. And then ship put messages when any updates are going to happen or server edits.

[south raptor]

you can just use like a on join send thing

for the first part

[worthy geode]

people don't read rules anyways

[simple garden]

Wait wait. There is a stock way to force players to view the rules before joining?

[molten egret]

good set of rules

[south raptor]

yeah

actually

[warm anchor]

You can just make them unable to interact with the world until they read find the secret

[south raptor]

just give them a book gui and force them to at least scroll through until the end which there is a clickable link

[worthy geode]

1. common sense
   and everything else is either possible=allowed. or its not possible = forbidden.

[simple garden]

Oh I can use luckperms for the book portion.

[south raptor]

there should be some plugin that does that

[molten egret]

force a resource pack onto them

then play the whole thing as tts with

the words also apearing on screen

[worthy geode]

don't steal my intro with sound 😦

[simple garden]

I can disable everything for them via luckperms and world guard

And the rules book upon joining for the first time and the clickable link will run a mycommands that is multiple commands enabling survival mode and perms that allow them to do stuff.

[restive mango]

hi

[lament patio]

Hi

[simple garden]

Hi

[molten egret]

Hi

[unkempt jackal]

how do server resource packs work?

[molten egret]

the server sends the client a string that is the pack url

the client request the pack from an external server

the client applies the pack

it uses http btw

[unkempt jackal]

where should i host the pack?

[molten egret]

discord is an option

[worthy geode]

ideally your own web server

but as as long as its a direct link and ends in .zip, the client does not care

[molten egret]

also it has to be formatted correctly

pack.mcmeta needs to be right at the root

just normal resource pack things

[unkempt jackal]

ok

it's just a small pack that makes zombies be Morbius

but like, with viaversion and all, how does that work with packformat version?

[molten egret]

pick the lowest supported

[obtuse shuttle]

i've seen some people use https://mc-packs.net/ for hosting

[eager orbit]

Lol im learning fabric just to make a creative inventory that works on the test server

[unkempt jackal]

Great scott! This server resource pack shindig is bloody incredible! Now if only I could forward a refrigerated cola to my users

they need refreshment

[void void]

Today, I ruined my entire server LMAOO

I did 1 single thing.

I updated my docker version!

Everything, gone

Every container, disappeared, broken

My rancher installation, gone disappeared

everything I set up, from images, registries, rest-API's with loadbalancers

gone

LMAO

[lilac moon]

anything in /var/lib/docker?

[void void]

Yeah, the new files

[lilac moon]

you dont see anything in docker ps -a?

[void void]

/volumes is empty

Empty

[lilac moon]

wth

how does that happen

[void void]

Shits gone

Sucks to suck

[lilac moon]

man

this is why i use bind mounts

at least my data isnt hidden away in /var/lib/docker

[void void]

I'll just go at it again

this time I won't do the unholy apt upgrade docker-ce

[lilac moon]

that is extremely worrying

maybe youll have to try using bind mounts then so the data will be somewhere else

[void void]

To be fair

I was running an old version to support an old rancher

as I cannot work with kubernetes yet and the new 2.x UI confuses me

[molten egret]

why are you using such complex technology

[void void]

I'm using what we're using at my workplace as it does have a ton of handy things

[molten egret]

my thing is just a server

running ubuntu

[void void]

My thing is a server running ubuntu 18.04 with docker & rancher

[molten egret]

I just make a folder for each instance

[lilac moon]

i just use docker compose

[void void]

Makes it really unorganised for me

[lilac moon]

i have it very organized

[molten egret]

I got 4 folders

[lilac moon]

folder for each server, plus shared folder for all plugins

[molten egret]

and 4 screen sessions

[lilac moon]

i just mount that shared folder into /shared and then symlink plugins in since it's a velocity network and lots of them are duplicated

[molten egret]

shared folders don't sound very good

shouldn't you clone the folder to the plugins dir?

[lilac moon]

nothing wrong with it

[molten egret]

arl

[lilac moon]

i have to explicitly symlink each plugin jar into the plugins folder

[molten egret]

oh

[lilac moon]

then there's just one file to update

[void void]

Borg saved my ass

[lilac moon]

yeah i use borg too

[void void]

Borg just saved my hours

[molten egret]

I just open multiple instance of the file manager

[lilac moon]

doing that would be a mess of tmux windows

plus more work than just updating one file

[molten egret]

your home pc is tmux windows?

[lilac moon]

actually there's two symlinks because i have the plugin name (without verison) as the filename in /shared/plugins, then each is a symlink to the jar under /shared/plugins/files which has the version

[lilac moon]

i use ssh to access my server

[molten egret]

I use ssh too

and sftp

[lilac moon]

i just use wget and download directly

[molten egret]

I used to

it was a pain

stfp is so much better

[lilac moon]

only a pain when using spigotmc plugins that dont have releases on github

[molten egret]

actually I installed a DE on my first server

[void void]

https://share.sweetaurora.tech/leni3/cesALaPO59.png

[lilac moon]

nice

[void void]

I love borg

[lilac moon]

ooo you have a image share website?

[molten egret]

somehow it wasn't laggy tho

[void void]

That was just saved by borg

LOL

[lilac moon]

oh xbackbone, i saw that before

[void void]

That was on said server

I had destroyed

[lilac moon]

huh

[void void]

Only reason it still works is because borg <3

[lilac moon]

true

[void void]

Otherwise I would've spent

countless hours

fixing it

[molten egret]

also my file explorer has tabs

and I run 2 servers

[void void]

As to what I'm actually running there, apart from minecraft servers and some post API's for analytics: https://share.sweetaurora.tech/leni3/ZEmuROHa36.png

Generally basic things

[molten egret]

what are those?

active proxy?

[void void]

backbone for image server, softether bc internal network access, registry is my own local docker image registry for my own images, nexus is sonartype nexus for maven artifacts, jenkins etc.

active proxy is from github (https://github.com/adi90x/rancher-active-proxy)

[molten egret]

I just run outdated plugins

[void void]

Basically what I use to wrap everything in a reverse proxy for letsencrypt

[molten egret]

idk what that is

[void void]

https

[molten egret]

I'm only small computer nerd

[void void]

I use it to put my stuff on https

LOL

[molten egret]

https for internal stuff???

[void void]

To get the lil' "this connection is secure"

No, the panel, post-API and other stuff is publicly accessible

such as my image server

[void void]

all the internal stuff is never touched by said reverse proxy

[molten egret]

you have things so setup and organised

[void void]

Yeah, I like things tidy

#❗ 1.19

[crystal lily]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[void void]

So no

[void void]

Also, the rancher UI allows me for quick & easy auto/manual-scaling of services

for example my rest-API

[molten egret]

this is the peak of my organisation

[void void]

https://share.sweetaurora.tech/leni3/qePoDaru69.png

[lilac moon]

i use caddy

[void void]

rest-API has a loadbalancer in front of it

[lilac moon]

caddy is the coolest webserver and reverse proxy

[void void]

so I can just scale the rest-API instance

[unkempt jackal]

I never really understood that there are actually 7 billion people in the world until I joined this server.
It is incredible that this many people can be coming here, so frequently, for one sole reason

[void void]

to whatever

[void void]

Never heard of caddy

what I do know is I'm having some small issues with mine currently

[lilac moon]

i should set up xbackbone

[void void]

It's always referencing to my nexus if no address is bound to x.(url)

[void void]

It works great!

I got mine configured to instantly upload my screenshots & copying the URL to my clipboard

no opening in web browser

just insta copy paste

[molten egret]

I feel like a normal member of society after reading this convo

[void void]

I could've never done this multiple months ago

I only know this stuff because my work place uses it, a TON

[molten egret]

hah I don't work

[void void]

We have like 22~~ dedicated servers with average 128GB ram all running rancher-agents etc.

[lilac moon]

right now i have linx-server whcih is a really basic share server but also it's crappy and unmaintained

and i hate wokring in go, it feels awkward

[void void]

Got mine only a few days ago

[lilac moon]

so basically i just made a few patches to get it barely working and then i left it alone

[void void]

4 days I believe

[void void]

And you were saying it was organized? 👁️

[molten egret]

I got a single server running ubuntu 20.04 4 cores and 8gb of ram

[void void]

I got mine at hetzner, 44 dollars a month

[molten egret]

I got mine at ovh

[void void]

Ryzen 5 3600, 64 GB ram 2x512GB NVMe SSD (Raid 1)

[lilac moon]

where did i say that

[molten egret]

I used to use the free google cloud credits

those were great

[lilac moon]

i wish i had that but i dont wanna spend that much on a server

[void void]

👁️

[lilac moon]

there i was talking about my docker compose stuff

and mc server which is for a differetn community

[void void]

I meant server-general

[molten egret]

this is like the only server I have where I'm in the bottom 10% by age

[void void]

Same

I'm 17

[molten egret]

I'm 16

lol

[void void]

[molten egret]

I just figgured out how to get idea to do tasks one by one

idk why it's not there by default

[void void]

I've never used screens

No clue what they do tbh

LOL

[molten egret]

at 17 where tf are you pulling money from to get all of that power

[void void]

I started working as freelance around 13

[molten egret]

how do you run things after the ssh session is closed?

[void void]

containers

//docker

[molten egret]

wow you really have you life together

[void void]

And currently work at a specific company as development lead

for like, 3/4 of the projects

and generally speaking help a ton with the system administrators

[molten egret]

who is hiring 17 year olds

[unkempt jackal]

that's what im thinking

[void void]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[molten egret]

something aint right

[void void]

17 year olds with 4 year experience I guess

LOL

You can 1. pay them less than everyone else

and 2. you get proper work out of it?

[molten egret]

you can't work that many hours in america

[void void]

I don't work on hour basis

I get x amount per month minimum, increases if I do more than we agree on beginning of the month

• not american

Rather I'm European,

Dutch to be precise

[molten egret]

do you have child labor laws there?

[void void]

We do yeah

So the way my payments work

I've setup my own start-up company

[molten egret]

all people under 18 need permission from the school to work

here

[void void]

Wow

Really?

[molten egret]

yeah

[void void]

That's a shocker to me

Here you, yourself decide

[warm anchor]

that's w2 jobs iirc? I dont think if you work for your own family business unpaid count

[void void]

the school has nothing to tell you with working

[lilac moon]

where?

[molten egret]

america

[lilac moon]

that can't be right

maybe it's different in your state or something

[molten egret]

well if you haven't graduated high school

[lilac moon]

what do you have to do to get permission fgrom your school

[void void]

Like, here I just have to attend x hours every week/month/year

not fail

and I'm alright

[molten egret]

the school just makes sure you're not failing then they approve you

[lilac moon]

yeah i didnt have to do anyhting like that

[unkempt jackal]

this convo has been very enlightening

[molten egret]

where are you from?

[unkempt jackal]

rural America

[molten egret]

haha corn/potatoes/cotton/wheat

[unkempt jackal]

actually, oranges

and other citrus

[molten egret]

florida?

cali?

[unkempt jackal]

california

[molten egret]

oh

I don't have much to say about cali

[unkempt jackal]

it's a place

[molten egret]

you're not different enough

for me to bully you

[merry talon]

this is old but discord also uses a version of electron that is like 1.8 tier outdated

[molten egret]

like java 6

which is the only version of java I have been educated in

[lilac moon]

oh yeah that too but ive tried the package that uses the latest electron version and it didnt seem to make m uch difference

i can try it again now though

[molten egret]

wasn't like audio with screen share somthing that would be added with a new electron

[lilac moon]

it did not help

but ill keep it for now

why do i have a program called disco, it keeps showing up when i try and tab complete /usr/bin/discord

[molten egret]

Wot

[golden gust]

https://linux.die.net/man/1/disco

[void void]

Does anyone know if ngxin proxy's basic auth has a way to do said auth in header/url?

Nvm, found it already

[molten egret]

how so smart

I understood like 1 keyword

[void void]

realised it's in url

user:password

http(s)://user:password@url/

But at the same time the application I'm using it for doesn't support said usage

[molten egret]

de wha

[void void]

so I'm just disabling the auth there, and then making my own auth on my rest API

[molten egret]

that's a feature of https?

[molten egret]

why so complex

[void void]

and a feature of http

apparently

[void void]

As this is something publicly accessible, and if misused bc no authentication

it goes wrong

[molten egret]

what are you making anyways?

[lilac moon]

yep

[void void]

micro-service for data management of a game

[molten egret]

why do you need such complex data management

[void void]

because

it works well

[molten egret]

because?

[void void]

• learning

[molten egret]

but what is the overall purpose?

[lilac moon]

what do you mean by data management

[molten egret]

is my brain really that smooth

[void void]

You meant the overal purpose of the micro-service?

Highly scalable ig

[molten egret]

de what

WHAT DOES IT DO

[void void]

It's just a rest API?

[lilac moon]

what is it an api for

[molten egret]

like velocity = light weight reverse proxy software for minecraft

[void void]

Data management of users playing a game

like items, stats etc.

[lilac moon]

so like database

[void void]

it doesn't save them

it only handles/manages them

[molten egret]

where does it go?

[lilac moon]

that makes me think of redis

[void void]

Sorta

sorta redis

It does however

forward the data it receives to the database

but also does logics like confirming if said data is legit etc.

[molten egret]

security?

[void void]

Sorta

[molten egret]

so what will this do overall?

[void void]

Store,, data,,,?

[molten egret]

what end feature does this help with?

[molten egret]

yes but a disk also does that

[drowsy ermine]

That paper 1.19 is already ok? Or still need to back up the world?

[void void]

nop

[molten egret]

backup regardless when upgrading at all

[drowsy ermine]

Thanks

[molten egret]

np

[molten egret]

@void void

[void void]

It quite literally just helps with checking if data is legit etc.

and afterwards saves it way or gives appropriate result

[molten egret]

what data?

user subbmitted data?

[void void]

Player data, such as inventory data, levels, progression, achievements etc.

dungeon completions

[molten egret]

there

dungeon shit

[spiral robin]

@warm anchor

[molten egret]

how did you get cat power?

[warm anchor]

[gray bobcat]

can someone help me with a problem im having with bungeecord?

[molten egret]

ehhh

waterfall

then #waterfall-help

[unkempt drift]

is it build-logic or buildSrc for the gradle shared build logic? the gradle does use buildSrc, but I see both. or does it even matter

[molten egret]

you're the smart one here you're supposed to know

[unkempt drift]

lol def not. and def not about gradle

[molten egret]

you are on the development team

just run both

test the output

whichever works use it

[void void]

I always use buildSrc

as it's the definite imperative logic space

[void void]

https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/organizing_gradle_projects.html

If that's what you meant that is

[molten egret]

look at these two

straight java nerds

I am happy when sh gradlew build works

[lilac moon]

youre telling me you use sh gradlew instead of ./gradlew?!?!?!

[molten egret]

yeah

that's how I invoke scripts

isn't it the same?

[lilac moon]

not really

[molten egret]

explain

[lilac moon]

if you just do ./gradlew (or any other program) then it reads the shebang at the top, which in gradle's case is #!/usr/bin/env sh
so in this case it will do the same as sh gradlew, but not everyting is sh

[molten egret]

oh

well I mostly run .sh files

[lilac moon]

sh is a symlink to bash on a lot of modern distros, but bash files are .sh as well, and have extra features, and are not compatible with true sh

[molten egret]

my scripts are all single line

[lilac moon]

nice

[molten egret]

just the whole java thing with the akair flags

[lilac moon]

yeah

[silver nexus]

are tropical fish meant to spawn in mangrove swamps?

[eager orbit]

I’m pretty sure, yes

[gaunt temple]

Hey I’m just curious on how much progress has been made into paper 1.19, I can wait and no rush on making it, just curious

[warm anchor]

#❗ 1.19 @gaunt temple all available information is communicated through the channel please read it

[spare venture]

their github has that info too

[gaunt temple]

Sure thing, thanks

[autumn spear]

hmm experimental builds are here so, ready to crash :3

[limber knot]

hey@Z750

woops

[warm anchor]

[gaunt temple]

Wottt

[fast spade]

hello, I wanted to ask - what's the practical difference between using PaperMC vs. using another mod loader, like Fabric, server-side?

[limber knot]

hey is that lead paper dev Z750 in the paper irc channel

on the espernet irc network in the #paper channel

[warm anchor]

[peak ginkgo]

in a technical sense paper isn't a "mod loader" :p

[fast spade]

I am aware :p

I mean for running a server

server-side mods vs. plugins with papermc

[light lake]

Hey

[fickle hound]

how long till release you think

[coarse venture]

Goodmorning europe

[crystal lily]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[vernal moth]

Plugins use a more high level API and generally don't break as often and provide better compability with each other compared to mods

Mods can be pretty invasive and break things in non obvious ways if the developers aren't careful

Plus plugins never require client side modifications

[eager orbit]

Lol just read the Minecraft changelog where chat was changed
I see why its so painful lol

[ripe sphinx]

yup

currently neither spigot or paper have fully figured out how to handle it yet

[fast spade]

so it sounds like the difference is just an abstraction layer?

I don't mean just as in its not significant

[vernal moth]

Pretty much, mods can modify the internals by rewriting code, plugins can only use the existing API and interns

It's just a conceptual difference

[warm anchor]

[lost crater]

TIL that anarchy servers might vastly change in the near future due to chat signing 😅

[manic bolt]

If someone wants to buy PaperMC, how much will they have to pay? :D

[vernal moth]

How would they change?

[coarse venture]

I don't see why.

[vernal moth]

Sounds like FUD

[coarse venture]

ZZ-Top Dollar

[peak ginkgo]

started vanilla 1.18 for a screenshot and my computer is melting

[vernal moth]

PaperMC is a collection of open source projects, you cant just buy that nor are we looking to ever sale stuff.

[peak ginkgo]

heres the screenshot goodbye vanilla

[eager orbit]

not certain how that would legally play out lol

[lost crater]

well or the question is: why is chat signing so important for mojang?

[vernal moth]

Player safety seems important to Mojang?

[coarse venture]

Because they finally get around to doing it.

[lost crater]

how does it add to player safety?

[eager orbit]

cant fake player messages afaik

[lost crater]

and that is really a thing? issue?

[warm anchor]

It’s first step of any process if any at all. You have to proof the player send the message.

[coarse venture]

anarchy servers can continue to chat with unsigned msgs. dont worry

[vernal moth]

They could be allowing to report people that break the Minecraft community standards for example

[eager orbit]

yeah, lets say I made it look like you were saying death threats

[muted mirage]

skeleton badass af

[lost crater]

exactly, so why is that proof important

[manic bolt]

Interesting, offline-mode and proxy servers will also have chat signing and encrypted messages?

[eager orbit]

which wont be nice considering that would be handled by microsoft

[upbeat falcon]

Cryptography - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptography

Cryptography, or cryptology, is the practice and study of hiding information. It is sometimes called code, but this is not really a correct name.

About 2,220,000 results (0.31 seconds)

[coarse venture]

Well, if your msa accounts get nuked due to fake reports, you'd throw a fit probably.

[lost crater]

exactly, hence why I suggested this might be a drastic change to anarchy servers

but if it can be disabled maybe not an issue then

[vernal moth]

If they break the community standards right now, nothing of value will be lost

[coarse venture]

again, anarchy servers can continue to chat unsigned

[muted mirage]

theres even a thing is prohibited on anarchy ones?

[coarse venture]

Players who feel there's a reason to report another player but can't, will just result in reporting the server for facilitating in eula breaking stuff.

[lost crater]

if you have ever been on an anarchy server, I think the chat is the least of the worries

[eager orbit]

for now, until microsoft wants more probably lol
Dw, it probably wont be required until bedrock is up to parity with mc china when it comes to microtransactions

[vernal moth]

Mojang makes the community rules, not 3rd party servers. 3rd party servers can only extend the rules

You can already report people that break the rules right now

[muted mirage]

i don't think loosing a diamond armor is worse than getting ur dad bank scammed cuz ur 6yo lol

[lost crater]

I do not think a 6yo should be playing minecraft alone

[muted mirage]

hmmm

[eager orbit]

let alone have a PC lol

[lost crater]

hence PG, in which a parent should tell the kid not to play on an anarchy server.

[warm anchor]

Actually a typical parent will ask why Microsoft allows it on their platform

[unkempt jackal]

yeah

[eager orbit]

but its not a platform

[lost crater]

“do you mine bitcoin with this?”

[vernal moth]

Of course it's a platform legally

[unkempt jackal]

well, people on the outside expect it to be a platform in practice

[peak ginkgo]

minecraft is kind of like scuffed roblox in the way that, somehow, liability falls to microsoft for the content accessed through it

[muted mirage]

minecraft have peoples

[eager orbit]

How so? You (Servers) arent publishing content to microsoft

Only players do that

[muted mirage]

and chat haven't 10²³ filters like roblox

so

dangerous

[eager orbit]

web browser

[lost crater]

you. an not compare roblox with microsoft

[peak ginkgo]

The violent filtering is because roblox purposefully wants to target under 13 users

[peak ginkgo]

i just did

[coarse venture]

Roblox is so dodgy, .. shiver

[lost crater]

true, but they are both very different as a platform 😉

[eager orbit]

Its like if you called the chromium project liable for the content on the internet

[muted mirage]

ik oldman plays minecraft too but i wonder who a squaregame wants to reach in the society

[merry talon]

its a platform in that your server is accessible to players via mojang auth servers

[eager orbit]

true

[unkempt jackal]

these days, squaregame wants to reach people willing to buy minecoins

[lost crater]

then we need an alternative auth server 😛

[peak ginkgo]

ithink it's doable

[eager orbit]

yeah, but who would you trust lol

[vernal moth]

Chrome doesn't own the protocol, nor is it the only way to access the internet?

[peak ginkgo]

kind of a fuck around and find out moment

[eager orbit]

neither is the vanilla client

[peak ginkgo]

still minecraft

still microsoft auth

[coarse venture]

Everybody's a pro soccer player at the world cup

[vernal moth]

That would be violating Mojangs copyright and would be getting you into bad legal trouble

[lost crater]

not about trusting just about auth

[coarse venture]

Everybody's a lawyer on the internet.

[vernal moth]

Circumventing technical Copyright restrictions

[peak ginkgo]

#625768024057577473 message

[eager orbit]

I feel like microsoft auth is really the only way you could pin microsoft responsible

[lost crater]

I am quite surprised many americans are behind this

[muted mirage]

illegal squaregame authing = 30 years penitence

[lost crater]

I would assume a lot of backlash due to freedom of speech etc

[coarse venture]

dejay!

[eager orbit]

besides, there are legit nsfw skins, but microsoft doesnt seem to have issues with that and its actually hosted on their servers

[coarse venture]

how does that link look to ppl who dont have access?

[peak ginkgo]

it'll say uh

[muted mirage]

www.com is a site everyone will join in their life i bet

[merry talon]

this

[lost crater]

like a link

[peak ginkgo]

yea thanks

i had to break a link in my dms to get that screenshot

[coarse venture]

it doesn't disclose the name etc of it? nice.

[vernal moth]

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201

[vernal moth]

Not sure how (America's flawed concept of) freedom of speech would apply to Minecraft? You don't have no freedom of speech in Minecraft, you have to follow Mojangs rules or get booted

[eager orbit]

it'll be fine since sign on is mostly oath now, which anyone can do

[vernal moth]

You still talk to the session server and Xbox live servers?

If you cut them out, you are breaking the law

[coarse venture]

If you want to keep your freedom of speech within a platform, you dont agree to their rules and continue life as is. i guess

:]

[eager orbit]

shhh we dont talk about that

[vernal moth]

That's exactly what we are talking about? Lol

That's what the difference here is, what creates the protected platform

[eager orbit]

Anyways, i gtg to bed because I have a life, in a strange, loop hole-ly way

[muted mirage]

btw

what u guys think about the future of hacking/anti-cheats

[vernal moth]

Idk what's the fuss is about, Mojang already bans people that do shit on "anarchy" servers and nobody gave a shit cause nothing of value was lost

[lost crater]

first time I hear this

[eager orbit]

define "shit" (first occurance)

[vernal moth]

I think we can all agree that child molesters have no place in this community for example

[eager orbit]

ah, crimes

[lost crater]

sure but that has nothing to do with freedom of speech

[vernal moth]

Yes, as far as I am aware they only act on extreme cases

[muted mirage]

imagine

[vernal moth]

This community is the Minecraft community in this case

[warm anchor]

No I do not want to imagine a child molester community

[eager orbit]

"everyone is welcome"

[merry talon]

oauth is for authorization

[muted mirage]

scary

[merry talon]

not the same as authentication

[coarse venture]

yes, law breaking stuff, like i said in the other channel. and why ppl mention player safety. it's a broad topic, for valid reasons

Sometimes life is just like that. Corporations do their best to avoid fines by facilitating a situation where they're liable for things people do with their services. So eula / tos / cug etc gets made, updates, things change over time, etc. Just how life is. ppl who dont like it just have to get over their feelings sometimes.

[eager orbit]

i feel like they could move to a platform that places less liability on them, but they wont

[muted mirage]

like, our pc is naked rn for the vanguard anti-cheat

ring 0

battle in core

u know

[void void]

amazing

[vernal moth]

It's not really used for authorization in mc tho, that's is handled differently ^^

[void void]

great conversation going here

[muted mirage]

sus

[merry talon]

oh I know it's not used at all lol

[crude bridge]

the devs literally put features that support all of this into the game

[vernal moth]

Your fault for installing malware like that

[merry talon]

just wrong in multiple ways

[warm anchor]

Let’s not get off topic but you know development env exist, no?

Like you know “testing”

[lost crater]

I suppose my point is: I do not mind that. But this can also be clearly done with realms. I mean is nobody worried about the future of papermc? Surely if they really want to control the community it wont just stop at chat signing…

[vernal moth]

Why does nobody here read Minecraft rules? They state that you may not have a public offline mode server, lol

[muted mirage]

if don't devs would just put it into, i think they though like that and decided just put it anyways

[manic bolt]

Can anyone please tell me what's Mojang-signed public key means, and why every Mojang account doesn't have it by default (then why do people buy the game)? And what the diff w/ and w/o that key

[coarse venture]

Only strong opinions, based on assumptions. Never educate yourself with facts!

[vernal moth]

No, we are not worried at all, we fully support this endeavor and have actually worked together with Mojang on this

[eager orbit]

It wont, im almost certain Microsoft will slowly implement features of Minecraft China to slowly move to a more and more centralized system

[muted mirage]

read rules = read terms of service and contract

[vernal moth]

Those are the rules, yes

[muted mirage]

who read terms of service(except the guys who are supposed to read it in their work)

[vernal moth]

There's more tho, brand asset guidelines and commerical usage guidelines

If you run a server you really should, lol

Else you open up yourself to tons of liability

[warm anchor]

[void void]

to be perfectly honest, nobody ever truly reads rules if there longer then a paragraph or two. everyone just assumes "use common sense and don't be a dick" as a rule.

[vernal moth]

Like, that's how businesses work....

[coarse venture]

microsoft even has community guidelines that people dont seem to know about.

it's not just the eula.

[fast spade]

modding is a core part of minecraft and has been for a long time. many of the mojang devs are modders themselves, and mojang has been increasing efforts to support modding in recent years - I'm sure they will increase security, but modding will always be something that they consider and their security features will aim to still keep mods possible

[coarse venture]

commercial use guidelines for server owners. also there.

[muted mirage]

say this to the 2yo that learnt how to use logmein hamachi and downloaded the minecraft server yesterday

[vernal moth]

Those aren't popular so not relevant

Nobody cares about your small server with friends

[fast spade]

I do, cuz I want to know what I'm agreeing to :p

[muted mirage]

congratulations u broke the reality

[fast spade]

and what I can do without any worry

usually its actually reassuring

most terms are relatively reasonable

[warm anchor]

I prints out the tos of a new account I am about to sing up and consult my personal laywyer for liability before I agree. This always works out ok

[crude bridge]

gonna be frank I dont think microsoft/mojang cares too much unless they are either losing money due to it somehow or someone is profiting off them

[muted mirage]

very uncommon to find a person that read 50 paragraphs every application he downloads or service that start using lol

[fast spade]

she*, and most applications I download don't have TOS, just open source licenses

[vernal moth]

Player safety is a brand protection problem, so there's money in it

[void void]

nobody ever reads rules in discord servers if they are long and unpleasant. lying about it is just trying to be good. people skim over them and move on

[eager orbit]

Which they kinda are as they cant force highly encourage us to buy mods off the marketplace

[manic bolt]

Bump

[vernal moth]

It's actually not that hard, you can even find good summaries if you care

[vernal moth]

Every Mojang account should have one?

[fast spade]

I've never not-read discord rules to be fair, obviously I skip over TOS a lot of the time, but I c heck discord rules usually to see if swearing is allowed lol

[manic bolt]

If so, why it's disabled by default and even toggleable

[upbeat falcon]

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[muted mirage]

i think its a bit pointless

like

[fast spade]

it's really not

[warm anchor]

Which headline below is better?
“Child predator found in [random Anarchy server name]”
Or
“Child predator found in popular kids game Minecraft made by Microsoft”

Here is why it’s important from company standpoint.

[eager orbit]

Because it breaks lots of things

[muted mirage]

u would stop using windows if you found 1 rule that u don't agree on their tos?

[vernal moth]

The feature isn't done yet clearly

[fast spade]

I mean, I looked at it and was very concerned, and I did then stop using windows

so yes

I did

[manic bolt]

Ah, I get it now, thanks

[muted mirage]

ok i'm dead

[eager orbit]

I am considering doing it for my next pc, and I would do it without question for any servers i run (but im too broke to afford servers)

[fast spade]

I mean, I keep windows for when I do need to use it

dual-boot is completely painless if you use rEFInd

rEFInd just isn't super well-known

[eager orbit]

K, I’ll take the word of some person on discord about something that controls the boot process and download it rn

[coarse venture]

But, if you don't read it and that backfires on you, in my opinion, you've lost the option to then complain about it. The same goes for servers. It's a risk they knowingly take.

[fast spade]

tehgreatdoge: if you have enough storage space that you can allocate a decent amount, I mean Linux for example does not use much space at all, I think it is good to check it out

[fast spade]

no lol never do that

[vagrant marlin]

yeah, i did

😁 😁

[eager orbit]

I already know Linux is better, its just the difference in driver and game support that is stopping me

[fast spade]

you look it up, look at the project, look at the arch wiki (cuz its the best resource on it), and you can verify its safety from that

[warm anchor]

If you play games, it’s hard to avoid windows

[fast spade]

yeah, I meant that you can dual-boot to try it out :)

[warm anchor]

As Linux support is pretty spotty still

[fast spade]

if you need windows for something, its as easy as booting into windows

[vagrant marlin]

i avoid windows, gaming is doing just fine

[unkempt jackal]

I could never see myself using Linux as a daily desktop

[eager orbit]

Try to play an ea/origin game lol
Im pretty sure they have like 0 support for Linux

[fast spade]

and to be fair, steam is making a lot more games run on linux because their steamdeck runs on linux and they gotta get that $$$ lol

[vernal moth]

Same

[vagrant marlin]

currently i am playing submautica through

[vagrant marlin]

why would i play shit games?

[warm anchor]

Shots fired wow

[eager orbit]

PVZ

[unkempt jackal]

Titanfall2

[vernal moth]

There are plenty good EA games

[vagrant marlin]

original pvz works just fine

[eager orbit]

Garden warfare

[fast spade]

for reference, while I don't actually play games, I keep windows because I regularly use Adobe apps

[muted mirage]

if != minecraft:
game.Name = shit

[vagrant marlin]

protondb says that GW2 should run just fine

[vernal moth]

Oh god that's cursed pseudo code pls don't

[fast spade]

Adobe apps are impossible to get working on Linux, but that's not a problem because it's not a 'pick one' type deal :)

[eager orbit]

I really hope you mean stuff like their 3D modeling pipeline and not just photoshop

[manic bolt]

minecraft java edition *

[vagrant marlin]

i dont have any ea games so cant test

🥱

but generally ea games do work

[fast spade]

primarily Adobe Illustrator, Adobe XD, Adobe Photoshop

[vernal moth]

You are still artificially limiting yourself, but if you are fine with that, that's great

[coarse venture]

if your daily driver desktop is linux, you dont need adobe software lol

[unkempt jackal]

The colon after minecraft is what really gets me

[vernal moth]

It's just not an option for others

[fast spade]

I really do though :p

[muted mirage]

all the apps i got in offline-mode

[vagrant marlin]

OS alternatives 😋

[eager orbit]

Acrobat PDF Viewer 🤡

[fast spade]

the problem is that I use Illustrator all the time, and the core part of my workflow is the shape builder tool - on Linux there is no alternative

[eager orbit]

Ok, you are holding onto windows for the wrong reasons ngl

[eager orbit]

Shape builder?

[fast spade]

but as I say, that is no problem when I know I can boot into either

[fast spade]

it makes creating complex shapes extremely quick with very simple mouse gestures basically

[vernal moth]

Who are you to judge what OS other people choose and why?

[eager orbit]

Thats supported by like everything lol

[fast spade]

it takes me about 10 to 15 times longer on Inkscape compared to Illustrator

[fast spade]

like..? if you know, please let me know because I would love to stop paying so much per month 😄

[coarse venture]

I am surprised some people can hear us talk, up there on their high horse.

[eager orbit]

K, I’ll do my best

wait… this is what you mean?
https://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/using/creating-shapes-shape-builder-tool.html

[fast spade]

yes

[eager orbit]

im pretty sure you can even do that in google slides lol

[fast spade]

it's possible to merge shapes, but not in that exact manner

[fiery orbit]

Been using Affinity Photo, Designer and Publisher lately to replace Adobe’s counterparts. Pay once and no need to think about payments again

[coarse venture]

Davinci Resolve 17 and Affinity Photo, using it on mac mini m1 almost daily.

[muted mirage]

squeleder in vanilla 😎

[fast spade]

the way that tool works specifically means I can do it in usually 0.2 to 0.4 seconds, as you just need to drag over the areas to merge, or alt+drag over the areas to remove

[manic bolt]

iirc Fusion 360 is also only for Windows

[fast spade]

I might buy them if they do have the shape builder tool, at least I won't be paying as much :p

but it is also windows and mac only sadly

[manic bolt]

lol make it looks like computer fan with animation and then skeletons will can fly..

[fast spade]

but its too important to me to not use it because of that lol

[fiery orbit]

Missing linux support is the only minus yeah

[fast spade]

I don't know much about Mac really, but I wonder why it supports Mac, a unix OS, and not Linux... are the differences that big?

[eager orbit]

Shape builder is pretty common, it just isnt always packaged in the same way as adobe did it

[fiery orbit]

The biggest difference is in the marketshare :p

[coarse venture]

as exciting as this is, im going to do some dishes.

bbl

[fast spade]

I mean, I need it in the same way as adobe did it or one that I can do just as fast

wait!

I looked up affinity

and it seems like it works in wine without too much effort!

(wine lets you run windows applications on linux)

adobe most certainly does not :p I will make sure thats true, and buy it if so

[muted mirage]

5am here

should i sleep?

[eager orbit]

I would also recommend checking out Krita and Gimp
(Krita lacks a bit when it comes to vector, idk about Gimp) They are both pretty good and im pretty sure they support linux

[fast spade]

I want to use Linux because I have developed my own tools for Linux that let me do everything extremely fast haha, like letting me do basically everything with three encoder wheels that on my keyboard and obviously all the keys

[fast spade]

I haven't looked at Krita before

[muted mirage]

cya guys

[eager orbit]

Its pretty nice for raster, but I haven’t really done much with its vector as it seems to not be very good

[fast spade]

GIMP definitely does, considering the G is for GNU, and Linux distributions are usually running a large amount of GNU software

[eager orbit]

Bye!

[fast spade]

but I have used GIMP and... well, the interface is pretty difficult for me to use

my PC boots fast though, rebooting to windows takes no more than 30 seconds so I don't usually have any problem doing that

and the main thing I do is programming, and absolutely everything for programming works on Linux

[eager orbit]

Yeah, so you will probably like Krita better (it does support Linux, I checked)

[fast spade]

plenty of it only works on Linux :p

[fast spade]

and yeah, I have seen it available as well

[pearl crystal]

Do we have a rough amount of time till paper 1.19 cause my server is laggying like crazy and nobody wants to put up with it

[vernal moth]

You can download early builds from our website if you are adventurous

[eager orbit]

heh, adventure

[fast spade]

I'm new here, but stable builds for proejcts like this are usually within two to three weeks, I'm sure you won't be waiting long if you pass on the early builds

[vernal moth]

there are currently 2500 servers using those builds and we havent seen major issues being reported, so take that for what you want

[fast spade]

I'm sure the answer is "when it's done", because no one really knows the exact details or how much time they'll have

[fast spade]

in that case I imagine that's a good idea to use now if Lionstriker's just talking about a small server

[stuck lava]

actually makes me wonder what 1.19 performance will be like

[vernal moth]

try it and see

lol

[stuck lava]

a bit too soon

[vernal moth]

its not too soon for a test server

[stuck lava]

😵‍💫

[unkempt jackal]

I'm gonna discover when I'm get home tomorrow. Adventure is calling and it's name is paper 1.19

[fast spade]

honestly I haven't played minecraft since 1.16, all my interaction with it is basically backend type things

[vernal moth]

lol don't get me started on that

this update prolly was the first time I launched the game this year

[fast spade]

I know it was

[vernal moth]

I had to actually install it

[fast spade]

for me

I installed it, and then realised that I haven't played games in so long that it made me motion sick, and closed it after 2 minutes

[stuck lava]

and I was thinking I was the only one who got sick of it

[fast spade]

I only saw a spruce forest

I'm not sick of toolchains, servers, modding, but I am not a Minecraft player :p

[stuck lava]

got sick of playing years ago lol

now I'm not even feeling like running a server anymore

tho

[fast spade]

I only played 1.16 for 4 days too

[stuck lava]

but ig some of those spikes are updates

[fast spade]

all of them will be

the big one will be 1.13 I imagine

[stuck lava]

well https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today 5-y&geo=US&q=minecraft

I don't feel like digging up dates rn

[unkempt jackal]

1.16 came at the perfect time for me to host a server and play minecraft on my second monitor during online school lol

Those were the days

[stuck lava]

and it's sorta already in related topics and related queries

[fast spade]

1.14 apparently

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/vaq0xau.png
heh recent performance optimizations showed quite the effect

[fast spade]

not showing performance above 100 is not very helpful haha

[vernal moth]

well, 100 means there is nothing wrong, all good

since I meet all core web vitals

[fast spade]

ah

[vernal moth]

and lighthouse didn't detect any obvious issues

[stuck lava]

https://pagespeed.web.dev/report?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpapermc.io%2F 😵‍💫

[fast spade]

reminded me of my smartwatch that shows the weather - it has the UV index and the humidity, but the UV index is always too high for it to display, and the humidity is always too low for it to display

so its just completely useless lol

UV index only changes when the sun sets, at which point it yknow just goes to 0

[unkempt jackal]

Sounds like they designed it for a different part of the world than you

[fast spade]

probably

[stuck lava]

for submarines?

and UV index for astronauts

[fast spade]

oh, and it also doesn't show the icon for if it is cloudy or not, because after a certain temperature it just calls the weather 'hot'

which is also 100% of the time

showing how cloudy or foggy it is would be useful

[stuck lava]

lol

probably just pulling data from god knows where

don't expect much 🙂

[eager orbit]

I love Minecraft, but one of my friends’ brother consistently X-ray’s and disturbs the peace. However, I can’t just ban 33% of my player base lol
I am waiting to start the server at all until paper updates so that I can use anti xray

[eager orbit]

oops, meant to reply

[signal harbor]

find a replacement

[eager orbit]

Lol, but my friend is the only other player that actually commits to the game in my friend group

And i cant really get him to play without his brother

[stuck lava]

wasn't there anti x-ray plugin alternative? probably not updated to 1.19 yet tho

[eager orbit]

Orebfuscater

[stuck lava]

yea that

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/orebfuscator-anti-x-ray.82710/

[vernal moth]

its way slower than paper

[stuck lava]

woo

well it's better than nothing while they're waiting for paper?

but yea

I see 1.19 plugin updates are rolling out fast

no major changes ig

which is good 🙂

[signal harbor]

oh rip

[eager orbit]

POV: you spend more time writing code for your server than playing on it

[stuck lava]

better get back to updating my NMS trash

[stuck lava]

don't even say that 🤯

[eager orbit]

Why? I say it because I do not fear the truth… unless its bad and about me

[stuck lava]

well when u see some high hours on steam u start thinking about it a bit...

my intellij hours would be off charts lol

[eager orbit]

Does discord track playtime?

[stuck lava]

hm, not sure

[eager orbit]

Because I have mine set to track vscode

[void void]

I think they store the rich presences yeah

I remember seeing them in my data report

Could also just use wakatime so you can see it per project

[eager orbit]

Thx :D

[icy fox]

anybody here use fancy menu mod? i need help

[signal harbor]

hey btw is it possible for me to get unbanned from paper minecraft server?

i wanna test some stuff

[eager orbit]

Bro what did you do to get banned?

[stuck lava]

ask 'bout 1.19 eta? 💩

[signal harbor]

i was placing mob spawners

someone kept breaking them and i didnt know he was an admin then i got banned

[void void]

username?

[signal harbor]

was my fault definitely

[stuck lava]

how did u get spawners?

[eager orbit]

Chicken mob spawners im guessing

[signal harbor]

Kripz5578

[signal harbor]

mob cages

and blaze eggs

[eager orbit]

/i withermobcage

Doesn’t actually work sadly, they just become pigs

[stuck lava]

it's good idea to use plugin and limit them per chunks

also cap mobs

[void void]

god the spawn is a mess

[stuck lava]

but ig for dev server... yea

[void void]

where is peter when you need him

[signal harbor]

yeah but if u /i blaze_spawn_egg you get that also then you can do what u want

[eager orbit]

I tried to fix it some, and then realized there is no way I could without tnt or worldedit

[void void]

are you sure you're even banned on that acc? I don't see you in the ban list

[eager orbit]

Imagine they got kicked lul

[signal harbor]

maybe i was unbanned

it did say banned

let me chekc

[icy fox]

anybody here use fancy menu mod? i made a mistake and i want to edit the menu to its original form. but the menu editor is gone

[signal harbor]

,aybe it was a temp ban

[signal harbor]

reinstall

[icy fox]

man

[signal harbor]

ah yes i am unbanned thanks

[void void]

welp, guess you're not banned 🥷

[signal harbor]

great

ill do some testing later probably

[stuck lava]

why not now? we can build some dirt houses

btw all those ppl updating to 1.19 how is that a good idea without proper anticheat

[signal harbor]

gotta go out in like 20 mins ish

[stuck lava]

https://github.com/Updated-NoCheatPlus/NoCheatPlus/commits/master not much going on lol

[vernal moth]

have you tried running it on 1.19?

[stuck lava]

not yet but I don't think it will just work

[vernal moth]

why not?

nobody created an issue yet that its broken

[eager orbit]

Yikes, 5 am

[coarse venture]

11am here, feels in my brain like 5am

[worn crest]

Yeah I have to update

[icy fox]

anybody know what mod to use for the cool mojang loading screen for mc dungeon but for mc java

[void void]

paper 1.18 or paper 1.16 for tps?

network

[worn crest]

Latest always better

[coarse venture]

1.18.2 is fine

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/UL4cSPcC-2022-06-12_11-40-43.png

I have lot braincells.

[stuck lava]

share?

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/qVw2d6V6-2022-06-12_11-47-00.png
https://posili.me/i/w2U3PvxH-2022-06-12_11-47-33.png?DiscordPls

[flint island]

I made suggestion for this https://youtu.be/QR6pZ7fJQFA so I don´t need code it self. For make pull request you cant only fork paper and pull the changes you need do like 100 steps. worst of all you need linux , I can´t work in that os (will be 90% of the time find out way linux not do what I tell it).

[stuck lava]

uhm?

if something can be (efficiently) implemented as plugin why would they push it?

[ashen cliff]

I have lot braincells.

[stuck lava]

lol

[ashen cliff]

I need for some of them to regen after reading both of those shitposts.

[stuck lava]

🤣

[vernal moth]

contributed not only his cpu capacity but also his brain capacity to seti 😄

[flint island]

Best command in linux is chmod -R 777 so you don´t have to specify path to files in the terminal all the time.

[stuck lava]

[ashen cliff]

[flint island]

if you mean me, yes you could make it self (I have fix this self so). but this is 99% nms coding so every minecraft update will break it.

[stuck lava]

well... good point

now that I think about it... a lot of inventory stuff is like that

[flint island]

You can test InventoryMoveEvent it has a pretty fun bug (from spigot). It modify the original stack on first stack get pulled to hopper (so get right amount you need to read the inventory 1 tick later). they should clone the original stack. but they skip that and clone the item after they modify original stack.

[stuck lava]

I just remembered updating a lot of NMS stuff with every version and most of it was inventory related...

ik it was possible to run build tools and create patches on windows tho

at least on 1.8.8 haven't it since then

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/tutorial-adding-custom-patches-to-spigot.158694/

once u understand it it's really not that hard

and don't quote me but I think there might be some even better (and easier) ways nowadays...

could probably get the whole thing working in intellij

and that's probably as good and easy as it gets

[flint island]

cool. I have used the git program for windows and is pretty handy to add jars to maven cache. but the command you have to use is not short 🙂

[stuck lava]

well

open intellij clone from https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper.git

and that's pretty much it lol

tho... considering how hard lesson was 1.8.8 I'm personally not going down that route again...

[signal harbor]

he gonna break the screen

he point a laser at a camera

itll break

[dapper umbra]

whats the issue

nvm fixed

[stuck lava]

that's no. 1 fix in IT... just give ppl some time

[void void]

https://discord.com/__development/link?s=Z7XEywE8rsgTvI0MR9P4OknzH4LtPi9j9%2Br8Hwzrohg%3D.eyJ0YXJnZXRCdWlsZE92ZXJyaWRlIjp7ImRpc2NvcmRfd2ViIjp7InR5cGUiOiJicmFuY2giLCJpZCI6ImFubmllL2RhcmsifX0sInJlbGVhc2VDaGFubmVsIjpudWxsLCJ2YWxpZEZvclVzZXJJZHMiOltdLCJhbGxvd0xvZ2dlZE91dCI6ZmFsc2UsImV4cGlyZXNBdCI6IlN1biwgMjggSmFuIDIwMjQgMDE6NTU6MDcgR01UIn0%3D

discord super dark theme

xd

works only on pc

[stuck lava]

how about... no, that I'm new here doesn't look too convincing

[mental meadow]

i've never seen that before but I also don't think you can create those yourself

[vernal moth]

Those are build overrides

[stuck lava]

don't trust anyone, not even urself... :0

[vernal moth]

They are only created by discord devs

Normally they never leak to the public

[mental meadow]

oh damn

it actually works and looks nice

like thats pretty

[stuck lava]

a bit racist

[mental meadow]

how is a dark theme racist

never mind please don't answer

I don't want to hear it

[stuck lava]

🤣

[ashen cliff]

Epic.

[void void]

looks very nice

[coarse venture]

what a bs comment.

[mental meadow]

imagine discord devs waking up tomorrow, looking at their statistics for their secret dev build and seeing that suddenly a few thousand people use it instead of 10

[frank otter]

I think that specific one has been doing the rounds for a few days now

I'm not sure if the devs can/will revoke or remove it because people aren't supposed to be using it this widely

[stuck lava]

imagine if they leaked it intentionally just to get some feedback

[void void]

that's the entire point of build overrides

I like how light mode just doesn't work with this build

[stuck lava]

[rare python]

🤔

[frank otter]

is that an override? it's very purple

[mental meadow]

you didn't even apply it smh

[stuck lava]

yea

[void void]

need a super light mode now to piss people off even more

everything ffffff

no borders just black text

would look sick tbh

[coarse venture]

That's called the mIRC theme

gosh that was so bright on winxp back in the day. haven't used that in nearly decade now.

[stuck lava]

that's easy 🤣

when inverted you see there are in fact some borders

[void void]

yeah i need everything in ffffff

[stuck lava]

lol

[void void]

i never used mirc i used some linux equivalent that i dont remember the name of

there used to be a minecraft to irc bridge

[stuck lava]

[void void]

now were fuckin talking

[stuck lava]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-patrick-star-patrick-stare-patrick-eyes-red-eyes-gif-14781443

[void void]

now to make all text black

i remember i

actually no this is apublic server

hehe

[dapper umbra]

how do you make a database as i need one for the uhc part of my server

[limber knot]

you install it like any other program

[dapper umbra]

install it? Where do i install it from

[limber knot]

that depends on your operating system

[dapper umbra]

macos

[limber knot]

usually the website of the program will have instructions on how to install it, I suggest referring to that

[dapper umbra]

Can you recommend me a website?

[limber knot]

google?

[dapper umbra]

fr?

[sleek tree]

google: "mysql install macos"

ez

[dapper umbra]

o

[limber knot]

I mean it depends on what database you need...

mysql is common but we don't know what your plugin requires

[dapper umbra]

mongodb is what it needs

[limber knot]

well then you need to google for how to install that

[dapper umbra]

k

[void void]

https://www.mongodb.com/docs/manual/tutorial/install-mongodb-on-os-x/

I got you bro

[limber knot]

or get people to spoonfeed you...

[dapper umbra]

ty

[limber knot]

smh

[dapper umbra]

it shows how to download it but wheres the actual download

[void void]

Find it

[agile pine]

Hello, i want to go with the 128gb
but it looks like the ram drops in speed
would that matter?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/731261638652723362/985510493877837844/unknown.png

[void void]

Because it’s right on the article I sent

[vernal moth]

Yes slower ram has an effect, especially on ryzen

Now if you notice that effect in Minecraft, that's a whole other story

[agile pine]

I see... dame you OVH

[vernal moth]

What are people's thoughts on wireless probable headphone amps here?

Getting annoyed of all the cables

[livid tide]

i use the same cable to charge my mac and my wireless headphones

[vernal moth]

@twin lagoon do you have experience with Bluetooth portable amps?

[twin lagoon]

no