You can't just chat, you have to speak the whole protocol and actually put a player in the game
#general
magic river
magic river
A player that will look like they're cheating or broken because they don't move or respond to anything
molten egret
yeah
golden gust
amaranth, it's worth noting that clients have existed for that for years
magic river
Like, anticheat software will be screaming about these players
golden gust
people generally know the implications of it ;P
patent ruin
Why would anti cheats be screaming about them?
molten egret
could you just yeet the rendering stack on a client??
patent ruin
I'd be sending the correct packets, just not moving
molten egret
yeah
magic river
They don't act like a normal player
golden gust
well, you'd probs need to emulate gravity
magic river
They don't do knockback when hit, they don't fall when floating in the air, etc
molten egret
I'd mod the vannila client
magic river
Unless you implement all of that exactly like vanilla does
molten egret
remove the rendering part
patent ruin
mental meadow
bye
magic river
amaranth, it's worth noting that clients have existed for that for years
I banned people using such things when I ran a server in 2011 😛
patent ruin
They don't do knockback when hit, they don't fall when floating in the air, etc
Good to know
magic river
Wow, someone actually put in all the effort to spoof vanilla movement mechanics for a chat app?
patent ruin
Yes.
magic river
Oh, they're charging money for it, that makes sense then
golden gust
No
golden gust
- vanilla is mojang source, so, like; you couldn't just rip that off and redistribute it, that would be against the license
- vanilla client is OTT logic wise for a mobile phone even without the rendering logic
magic river
They aren't doing everything a normal client would, just the bits to try to get you to walk through a portal, not get afk kicked (fuck them for that, btw), and poke at your inventory
golden gust
- There are implementations of every single bit of logic you need for the proto itself online in github repos with a gratis license
magic river
Anyway, sure, it's technically possible but it's hard, if you have to come ask us you probably won't be able to pull it off, and I'd still ban you for using it on my server 😛
patent ruin
The basic version is free
magic river
But if you're just looking for an app to download and use I guess you got your answer
vestal jasper
Rather just setup DSRV and let users use that
coarse venture
haha the new tom scott video is awesome, poor tom "you are not calm, YOU ARE GONNA SCREAAM AAAah" lolol
i thought he was gonna faint from just worrying about himself too much.
molten egret
to fix the wealth gap I have decided to write a complex tax plugin
hexed kelp
great plan
molten egret
so I registered 5 domains for my package name
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
radiant mantle
Ok ty
So this will keep the same nether when I come back?
Like if I delete the files and then later we go to the nether it will be the same right
void void
Asking myself about Minecraft rebuilds and copyright. I see people and servers rebuilding structures or maps from other video games like csgo, quake or rpgs. It uses Minecraft blocks and textures but still the layout of the map or building would somehow be similar to the original one but blocky and pixelated. Wouldn't that also violate copyrights?
worthy geode
TIL that you can't do crits while affected by blindness.
Learning something new everyday in this game, lol
native wolf
blindness also makes you unable to sprint
worn ember
Some kind of relay is the way to go, whether that's to Discord, IRC, or Matrix
i used to use mcchat or whatever it was called before discord even existed, sure skype existed but far from everyone used it and a bridge there wasnt possible
but these days its pretty useless
and let me tell you then the average pleb had no idea IRC even existed, even 10 years ago
snow iron
warden go brrrr
spare venture
So this will keep the same nether when I come back?
Like if I delete the files a...
you'll reset your nether but it'll keep the same seed
the carl bot discord
rare python
One of the players on my server is trying to say that 100ms ping is unplayable.
worn ember
for mc? lmfao right
ashen cliff
Thank you Microsoft for giving me Bedrock again...
So I can watch it download at like 13kbps. 
worn ember
badrock amirite
lilac moon
how did you not already have bedrock
worn ember
why would anyoen want bedrock
ashen cliff
Already have it like 5 times at this point.
ashen cliff
So you had 3 chances to get it for free...
coarse venture
I've been selling air blocks for diamonds since 2011.
worn ember
yeah, but why would i need it
spare venture
bedrock bad
worn ember
i dont play on anything other than pc
ashen cliff
To try Geyser and complain about random PVP BS?
radiant mantle
you'll reset your nether but it'll keep the same seed
So the same terrain just all player built stuff is gone right
shy dove
What do you guys think is better for a dedicated server?
The I9-12900K or the R9-5950X?
coarse venture
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-12900K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-5950X/4118vs4086
You can take a look at the differences, and specifically single core performance.
twin lagoon
if you're chucking more servers on a single server
5950x
if you've got enough cooling, 12900k with the e-cores disabled
shy dove
Cooling is not the problem xD
Thx for the answer 😄
coarse venture
5950x would be what i'd pick (over that i9), pretty solid for 24/7 for running servers with constant backing up and test servers and litlte proxy
shy dove
Good to know
coarse venture
but i've always been xeon or i7 in the past , but, times be changing
shy dove
I wasn't sure for a while, since minecraft is single-threaded game and the I9 scored higher in it.
coarse venture
https://www.cpuagent.com/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-5950x/gaming/minecraft/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt?res=1&quality=ultra
Difference looks neglectable - so .. maybe it just depends on how you use it too.
shy dove
For my own servers, and for friends. So there will be around 20 servers on 1 dedicated server
coarse venture
even though that's just for playing hehe
twin lagoon
For my own servers, and for friends. So there will be around 20 servers on 1 ded...
then the 5950x
shy dove
Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it 😄
coarse venture
hetzner is timing out for me. meh
coarse venture
yeah it ended up in a 504 gateway timeout, it's fine again now. someone kicked the hamsters
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
signal harbor
within the next year
normal knoll
Hey all, where can i get @crystal lily bot?
vernal moth
nowhere
normal knoll
or @thorny flicker Bot?
vernal moth
its custom
normal knoll
oh i see
vernal moth
eraser is invite only
vernal moth
and before you ask, pencil is custom too
simple garden
omg i did not know you can use the discord overlay on multimc 😄 @warm anchor lol that is amazing haha.
does anyone know a plugin that can make it so when people chat in a specific discord channel it shows up in the minecraft chat?
vernal moth
discordsrv
simple garden
k cool
crisp quiver
Hey guys, what do you think of mineacademy to start coding mc plugins?
vernal moth
its terrible, stay away
unkempt drift
whats the link....
void void
So next update will be the last one?
spare venture
lmao i forgot about that doc
lilac moon
all the links are dead
and the github links have chnaged since then i assume, they werent permalinks
should rewrite it as a nice html page
vernal moth
it was written by multiple people who wish to stay anonymous since the asshat likes threaten legal action
(not me btw, I dont have access https://i.imgur.com/b7U9u3s.png)
lilac moon
just a single html page would probably be better privacy wise i would think, compared to google doc
vernal moth
harder to coordinate
crisp quiver
its terrible, stay away
why
wet storm
Hey guys, what do you think of mineacademy to start coding mc plugins?
I think that learning mod dev as a first mc dev thing is better than learning how to code plugins because you don't receive many bad practices shared across plugin dev community and you interact with minecraft directly without bukkit api condoms, but mod dev maybe too hard for people which only start learning something...
lilac moon
hmm
crisp quiver
it was written by multiple people who wish to stay anonymous since the asshat li...
where
lilac moon
http://mineacademy.net/
here @crisp quiver
crisp quiver
here <@217406873983385601>
yeah I know but why do you say stay away
lilac moon
harder to coordinate
yeah i guess thats true, you could put it on like github pages or something but yeah
crisp quiver
oh wait
vernal moth
the person behind it is terrible, it teaches terrible practices, its not worth your money
lilac moon
its in that post
crisp quiver
didnt see it was a different linlk
vernal moth
the person behind it used to come here to ask beginner questions while making his course
before he was banned from basically the whole MC community
even spigot banned him, and that means something
took them long enough....
lilac moon
lmao
crisp quiver
but his premium plugins are good? aren't them?
golden gust
Quy basically broke the rules for years but spigot kept giving him an inch
Not really
vernal moth
no they are not
plus they aren't even written by him for the most part, he "pays" kids for them
lilac moon
"pays" :sus:
vernal moth
I say "pay" because he also gave out less money than promised to them in the past
true canyon
but his premium plugins are good? aren't them?
Noooope
vernal moth
so yeah, horrible all around
golden gust
O mean, their only real strength is that it's a lot of features in one plugin, all of which can generally be replaced by other plugins, just, nobody wants to deal with several plugins Vs 1
crisp quiver
why dont you guys make a mc plugins coding? with your knowledge and audience you'll become rich xD
true canyon
His course teaches you how to become dependent on his "library" which is really iffy.
golden gust
Because we're Devs, not teachers
vernal moth
why dont you guys make a mc plugins coding? with your knowledge and audience you...
we dont wanna be rich either
lilac moon
i made a few plugins in the past but i got fed up withj spigot api being awkward
vernal moth
knowledge should be free
golden gust
Yea, that was another fun thing, his material was generally focused around his overengineered complex library
lilac moon
velocity api is nice though
crisp quiver
knowledge should be free
respect
versed verge
where can I get the experimental 6 server jar?
crisp quiver
so how do I learn to code plugins? youtube videos?
vernal moth
generally you wanna learn the language first
golden gust
Massive lockin to his library from the course, and anybody I've seen from that course generally struggles outside of his framework
Yea, focus on learning basic java, then move to plugin dev
lilac moon
wait i thought it was just a course, it's a library too?
true canyon
Is Jetbrains academy still offering a free trial you can extend out months? I thought their thing was good.
versed verge
@lilac moon @vernal moth ty I just didnt scroll up enough mb
golden gust
Too many people burn out because they rush in, get too deep and miss core fundimentals, but are then in part far enough past fundimentals that going back to the basics bore them, so they fail to fill in huge gaps of knowledge
lilac moon
that is what i do a lot
twin lagoon
Is Jetbrains academy still offering a free trial you can extend out months? I th...
yes
lilac moon
actually i usually just cope
true canyon
so how do I learn to code plugins? youtube videos?
Check out Jetbrains academy free trial, complete enough and the trial extends.
golden gust
wait i thought it was just a course, it's a library too?
It's a course around his library which works in bukkit development environments basically
true canyon
(trial for java)
true canyon
It's a course around his library which works in bukkit development environments ...
And it's crap
golden gust
But, generally, any tutorials within our ecosystem are kinda crappy
People try to teach core Java around bukkit, and forget the core Java part
So, you see people who aren't even familiar with the basics of the collections API tryna make plugins with hundreds of lines
And it's a shame because you gotta go tell them to go back to the core of the language to learn stuff, but they think they're much further than that
ripe sphinx
crisp quiver
thank you a lot guys ❤️
true canyon
Yeah, that last bit is killer. Newbies convinced by their mediocre tutorial that they know a ton more about java than they really do
And then it all falls apart, and you realize your code is poop 💩 and hard to fix without total rewrite.
unkempt jackal
I love Java ❤️ 🙃
golden gust
Yea, I mean, that's just programming in general, but really sucks in the beginner days lol
lilac moon
And then it all falls apart, and you realize your code is poop 💩 and hard to fi...
luckily i have not had this happen too badly myself
golden gust
Yea, much of it can be mitigated by sane design
lilac moon
yheah thats what i try and do
golden gust
Worse case generally is that you have a bunch of classes which need rewriting
But, especially at the beginning you're probably not going to have a grasp of the design patterns needed to do that well
true canyon
There's always room to learn more but god if you don't know what collections are, or don't understand how constructors work ...
frail horizon
So can I run 1.19 on my server fully now?
lilac moon
its experimental
frail horizon
its experimental
So best not to? Or its mostly fine
golden gust
Yea, there's always much to learn, the reality is is that for the first few years you're gonna be laying your foundations, just, best to try to aim to avoid making a foundation of manure
lilac moon
So best not to? Or its mostly fine
probably best not to, but you can try if you keep good backups frequently
true canyon
If you're okay with possibly losing things... Go for it! If your players don't care about trouble ... Go for it!
unkempt jackal
Im only running a small survival server with very few plugins and I have frequent backups and very kind users so I'm considering testing out the experimental builds
tacit shale
is paper on 1.19 yet?
daring laurel
kenny can you confirm this?
smoky cloud
kenny can you confirm this?
Spigot Drama Generator
worn quail
I love Java ❤️ 🙃
First documented account of someone proclaiming a like of Java
vernal moth
The fact that we have no time travelers from the future yet could mean there is no future for humankind.
Give that a thought or two
smoky cloud
That's depressing
vernal moth
First documented account of someone proclaiming a like of Java
Plenty people here like java, lol
true canyon
I like Java!
golden gust
I mean, I like java
worn quail
I'm only being silly, Java tends to be the scapegoat for a lot of people
wet storm
I like java and JVM platform in general
golden gust
I mean, people are noobs
If you can't say that your fave language is shit, you're a noob
vernal moth
Well, I am not blind, but java is my fav out of the many languages I have used so far
Of course it has downsides
Where is the "your language sucks" wiki?
molten egret
Yea, focus on learning basic java, then move to plugin dev
haha I know basic java and I can't get this thing to compile correctly
idk if I did something wrong but unless I manually run the maven task it just skips it
lilac moon
i am not a fan of java and jvm if im honest
molten egret
Idk what I did wrong here, from what I know it should run these tasks in series
magic river
Did the discord channels get rearranged or did discord just do a dumb?
lilac moon
what did it do
molten egret
looks the same
golden gust
Looks to be same order as has been for the past week or so
magic river
I have the velocity, waterfall, and papermc channels all muted and I'm hiding muted channels but those groups are visible
golden gust
There was some changes recently, i.e. the org catagory
true canyon
Docs had been highest
magic river
And they're between paper and social so it's pushing things down
true canyon
Docs being higher was an issue for newbies asking for help 😂
topaz torrent
Idk what I did wrong here, from what I know it should run these tasks in series
“tax build”, looks like the IRS is gonna knock at your door
golden gust
Yea, also weird area because the docs/forums cover the entire site
lilac moon
tax destroy
molten egret
“tax build”, looks like the IRS is gonna knock at your door
no this is auto irs, no tax filling
magic river
I think after the update that added dedicated chats for voice channels this happened
golden gust
so, moving it down and into its own group fixes 2 "big" issues
wet storm
I love java cuz it is clearly for understanding for many people, you can't shit code in it so no one couldn't understand you like in scala or some other fancier languages, your shit code will be at least understandable, java has fancy build tools like maven, gradle, it has a lot of standards etc. etc. (And Java memory model is the best)
magic river
But maybe it was when you made that papermc group 😛
worn quail
I don't mind using it, I think it's neat. Most of my issues with Java over time could probably just be summed up as me simply not knowing it well enough or some other external issue. I think it would be worrying if the entirety of a Minecraft modding server didn't like Java haha.
golden gust
I mean, the scala argument is dum
topaz torrent
no this is auto irs, no tax filling
lol
golden gust
People who understand scala love scala
molten egret
but does anyone actually know how to run 3 intelliji tasks in a row?
lilac moon
I love java cuz it is clearly for understanding for many people, you can't shit ...
you can't shit code in it so no one couldn't understand you
your shit code will be at least understandable
this doesnt sound right
i have seen some crazy java code
i have seen some crazy code in any and every language
molten egret
I have seen any language writen on a white board
golden gust
I love Kotlin
lilac moon
i have not
wet storm
I mean, the scala argument is dum
I mean, I know scala and love scala, but greater language possibilities give you greater possibilites to shit code
golden gust
I just hate Kotlin developers
lilac moon
ok how about rust developers :troll:
golden gust
I mean, same for any language which tries to add fancy features
lilac moon
python is ok
worthy geode
Python is ehh for anything outside of writing scripts
molten egret
but the way it used to be with 0 types
lilac moon
but i dont like snakes
golden gust
Part of why I love kotlin its features like ext functions, but, at the same point, Ive seen people blatently abuse them and create nightmare code with them
Like, if to debug your code, am 3, 4, 5 levels deep in ext function calls, I hate you
magic river
I have an Arrays2.kt I carried around between projects
Made arrays have a lot of convenience stuff you normally get from List
lilac moon
is kotlin extensions the right thing?
golden gust
Kotlin arrays are fucking ass
magic river
Java already has an Arrays class full of static methods for similar helpers, thus Arrays2
Although mine are extension functions
lilac moon
is kotlin extensions the right thing?
oh wait this sounds normal to me
little frost
ktor2 defines most things as extension methods and it's bad
like the feature is great, but when you own the class itself, there's no point in making extension methods for it
golden gust
Like, I've yet to have a goo experience with kotlin arrays
Yea
It's what I hate about kotlin devs
JUST because the feature exists, doesn't fucking mean you need to use it :L
golden gust
Okay, hat makes me wonder, actually
what produces better docs
javadocs, or dokka
I really hate the direction that javadocs have gone
and if I was much of a web dev myself, I really would be creating my own thing for it
lilac moon
ive been doing web dev stuff more recently
typescript is pretty cool but as a whole web dev is all crazy
actually it's more the JS frameworks and stuff, on my main websiute i stuck with just html and css and minor JS and it was really nice
worthy geode
Javadocs seem kinda fine to me tbh. A bit ugly and the search sucks, but other than that.
dokka is weird, way too much whitespace, things hidden behind more clicks and the list on the left is annoying to use because you need to click the actual text and not the entry
magic river
Make it look like https://docs.rs/crossbeam/0.8.0/crossbeam/sync/struct.WaitGroup.html
golden gust
I mean, I feel that losing the iframes kinda killed it a lot for me
because I used the iframes often just to be able to navigate classes, etc
I get why they wanted to kill them, but, bleh
lilac moon
Make it look like https://docs.rs/crossbeam/0.8.0/crossbeam/sync/struct.WaitGrou...
yes i like rust
good docs
worthy geode
Make it look like https://docs.rs/crossbeam/0.8.0/crossbeam/sync/struct.WaitGrou...
the search seems to work good. but its only using half my screen :/
lilac moon
oh i had it on my second monitor (4:3)
i always have it either there, or at home where ij ust have one 4k monitor and i tile it halfway
magic river
There are studies on this, if they let it expand to the full width of your window it would be harder to read
worthy geode
perfect use of space 
magic river
You must have better than 20/20 vision and be sitting inches from that screen
worthy geode
4k screen and good eyes
lilac moon
how big is it
golden gust
I still think that websites should be designed for like, 1024x800 or whatever it was
lilac moon
i could probably do that on my monitor but it's hell if i try and screenshot stuff for people
magic river
They mostly are designed for that cat
golden gust
Yea, I mean, it just makes a lot of sense
magic river
Well, not 1024
wet storm
am too lazy to learn kotlin, like, I already know 3 jvm languages, (java, scala, groovy) the latter I mainly used for gradle, scala if I wanna be a fp mad lad, and java is for basic jvm language every other jvm dev can understand. For now I don't see any reason to learn kotlin if I don't wanna develop gradle plugins in it...
golden gust
e.g. mobile phones are still small
magic river
iirc it's 1280x800
golden gust
and, very few actually maximise the screen, etc
lilac moon
in css 1 pixel is exaclty the same no matter your resolution
because it's based physical size
magic river
That's what MBPs were before retina and I think what the default scaled resolution of them still is today
golden gust
Like, on large monitors it makes little sense to take up the full screen with content as it just thins everything out
worthy geode
how big is it
30 inch I think? not sure tbh
lilac moon
yeah that size you can use it on 100% scaling easy
magic river
27" or 32"
lilac moon
mine is 27"
magic river
I have a 27" 4K, I can't use it on 100% scaling 😛
lilac moon
get better eyes
molten egret
30 inch I think? not sure tbh
damn that's long oh shit we're talking about monitors
magic river
Although I sometimes think I should lower the scaling and just up the zoom in Firefox for things
lilac moon
yeah. heart rate monitor
magic river
The Windows 11 UI is too big
worthy geode
your old 😛
but I also always use laptop monitors on 100% scaling, don't like stuff being so big
golden gust
Yea, the imac screen is comical
true canyon
27 1440 is good enough for me. Any smaller and I'd need incredible vision.
golden gust
Like, I love it, but, the default scaling option is just stupid
molten egret
mines 34"
magic river
I'm on 175% scale
golden gust
(if my eyes weren't shit, I'd be using the top one)
worthy geode
but tbf I mostly put stuff like javadocs on the smaller monitor
magic river
I should probably switch to 150% and just increase the minimum font size in Firefox
lilac moon
i would use two monitors but xorg does not support mixed dpi
worthy geode
thats one wide monitor
molten egret
yeah
magic river
lilac moon
i wonder if i should make my website wider
molten egret
great for stack traces
lilac moon
fortunatley i dont use java so i dont need an ultrawide monitor
worthy geode
wide monitor for stacktraces, vertical monitor for config files
lilac moon
just get a big monitor overall and tile two windows to 50% of your screen
i always have at least 2 windows open
magic river
Honestly I don't even really need to increase the text size when on 150%, it just takes more effort to read things
Went ahead and did 110% zoom in Discord anyway though, still smaller than before but much easier to read
My maximized Firefox window looks goofy as hell now when I'm looking at anything but youtube though
worthy geode
only thing in discord I changed is the saturation, makes replies/pings so much better
unkempt jackal
how do you do that?
worthy geode
Accessibility settings.
But it will make everything else gray as well (except role colors)
molten egret
lemme tryt
radiant mantle
you'll reset your nether but it'll keep the same seed
Will it be the same as if I never went to it?
worthy geode
but at least no annoying yellow
molten egret
went from 16px to 18 px
crystal lilyBOT
To download old versions of Paper, click here ➡️ papermc.io/legacy ⬅️ and fill out the questions. Note that old versions are completely unsupported and contain numerous bugs/exploits.
silver talon
yeah but at the website don't has the paper 1.8.9 the last 1.8 is 1.8.8
twin lagoon
1.8.9 does not exist
golden gust
because .9 was a client update, not a server one
spigot didn't bother to change the 8 to a 9 in the server
silver talon
ouhh okay thanks 
unkempt jackal
that's like the super amoled mode on discord android
vernal moth
Isn't that just the AMOLED mode?
lilac moon
Isn't that just the AMOLED mode?
no it's not perfectly oled black
twin lagoon
nice
lilac moon
the amoled mode on android is way better though but this is a step the right direction
unkempt drift
I have literally never heard of this build override system
unkempt jackal
this is so coooool
twin lagoon
I have literally never heard of this build override system
canary thing
unkempt jackal
me neither
twin lagoon
usually gets posted in the testing discords
lilac moon
im not even on canary and it worked which is cool
unkempt drift
yeah, worked for me too. damn
twin lagoon
they're usually used for canary atleast
spare venture
Will it be the same as if I never went to it?
yes
lilac moon
yeah that would make sense
unkempt jackal
im gonna share this build around
twin lagoon
yoinking that build too
too dark for my needs on desktop but i'm sure some people like it
lilac moon
true
visual egret
how did people not know about the build override system
cunning raft
90% of users don't care
twin lagoon
because they literally never get posted outside of discord testers' discord
little frost
not dark enough, i need #000 background
visual egret
idrc but ive seen the links posted around
lilac moon
i knew about it because i saw one for like a redesigned slash commands system before from a friend
visual egret
^ thats how i found out
limber knotBOT
now make it work on the client Kappa
twin lagoon
that is for the client?
lilac moon
oh by the way don't try and ping anyone or use slash commands with the dark mode override otherwise you will see the inconsistencies
i hope they end up adding this to discord
limber knotBOT
oh it shows a button if you add the link into the client lol
I just clicked it and it opened the website
cunning raft
oh by the way don't try and ping anyone or use slash commands with the dark mode...
that's probably for contrast
limber knotBOT
oof, one of my monitors shows it as almost black... I need to calibrate that lol
visual egret
how do you calibrate a monitor though?
quasi valley
not dark enough, i need `#000` background
not dark enough, I need a black void that consumes everything around it
visual egret
because i noticed a lot of my colours are off on linux rather than windows
limber knotBOT
I mean... just set them all to the same if you don't have some fancy device
lilac moon
that's probably for contrast
it looks like the default color so i think it's just not iplemented yet
limber knotBOT
but there's apps too afaik
unkempt drift
yeah, this might be too dark
lilac moon
my website doesnt even use #000, it's #111 with dimmed text
because otherwise it hurts to read stuff
unkempt drift
you cannot see inline code blocks, or at least I barely can
only can tell that the font changed
lilac moon
i can see it but it's hard to see the edge of the background
molten egret
it's a build override, here https://discord.com/__development/link?s=Z7XEywE8rsg...
o I click
now I dunno'
;-; how do I remove it?
twin lagoon
you click on it again
unkempt drift
it changes to a clear button
visual egret
right click user settings -> clear build overrides
molten egret
oki thx
cunning raft
unkempt drift
how long have you been able to right click settings for to get quick access
or that that jsut smth that was activated for this
cunning raft
at least a year
frozen island
oh thats a thing?
quasi valley
imagine they actually told you about their ui features
frozen island
thats really cool
unkempt drift
I read the announcements when they pop up
quasi valley
TIL you can right click the mic and headphone icon as well
unkempt drift
wtf
visual egret
oh
frozen island
huh
lilac moon
TIL you can right click the mic and headphone icon as well
WTF
frozen island
so many cool features
unkempt drift
well idk if cool is the word
worn ember
@warm anchor its official https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/v91pgj/cm_is_the_true_abbreviation_for_creep_in_dota2/
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) CM is the true abbreviation for Creep in Dota2. Cre:ytb/DotaCinema : DotA2 - 105 comments, 2,729 points - Yachisaorick, 1d ago
lilac moon
so many warm features!
frozen island
discord is pretty neat
visual egret
i don't really get why anyone uses the native linux version though
much laggier than the web version + not much integration except RPC
worn ember
yeah using 1.2gb of ram is not so bad for rendering some text
lilac moon
much laggier than the web version + not much integration except RPC
it's super laggy on firefox
worn ember
lilac moon
yeah it wouldnt make sense for me to use any of those chromium browsers and use firefox for everything else
i wonder if there's a tauri version of discord
worn ember
well at least its less than an entire game
unkempt drift
it sucks on linux. at least the client does (oh didnt scroll down)
worn ember
idc lol i just think its funny
unkempt drift
I never even considered not using the client. I will def try that
visual egret
why use 2x+ the ram when its worse than the web version
worn ember
i have enough ram
lilac moon
i wish it didnt freeze for like 5 seconds every 30 seconds on firefox
worn ember
it still keeps randomly reloading for me though
lilac moon
oh apparently discord tauri exists, im gonna install it
visual egret
discord what
frozen island
mine uses 300mb
same with me, 300mb
radiant mantle
Does anyone know if I need to enable something to allow automatic farms using coral like fans to work?
merry talon
man people really love to claim these electron apps are somehow badly written lately
They're fine, web tech just inherently uses more memory
it's a trade off for massively easier development
twin lagoon
ram is there to be used
radiant mantle
Oh ok
lilac moon
man people really love to claim these electron apps are somehow badly written la...
there is no way that it's doing 100% cpu worth of processing just by hovering my mouse over the server list
plus it's way slower than any other electron app i've ever used
like vscode is super fast
twin lagoon
they're both completely different apps
worthy geode
thats a bit like "Minecraft and IJ are the same because they both use the JVM"
lilac moon
i'm not saying they're the same
i'm saying that it's not just electron that makes it slow
because there's plenty of electron apps that run just fine
so something crazy is going on inside discord's client code
peak ginkgo
oh apparently discord tauri exists, im gonna install it
this is technically client modding i do not recomemnd lol
worthy geode
Discord runs fine for me, idk
lilac moon
im using a slow pc right now though, so that's why i can tell it's slow
although i can even tell it's slow on my other pc with an i7-7700
peak ginkgo
like vscode is super fast
vs code doesnt load 8 native modules on startup like discord does and doesn't have to communicate with all 8 of them every like... second
are you on windows, mac or linux?
lilac moon
linux
lilac moon
that is not the problem i hasve
wait yeah
well now it doesnt lag when scrolling but everything else is still slow, like switching servers, or resizing even
i wish i could use the web version in firefox but for some reason it freezes for like 3-5 seconds every 30 seconds or so and idk why
void void
If I may ask what is the current progress? Like are the experiments are going well?
unkempt drift
well there hasn't been an issue, big or small, reported yet with build 6
so....
they are still experimental, and are labelled as such
vernal moth
white pine
==> WARNING: This script calls out to papermc's API to determine the latest
==> WARNING: version and build number. Press Ctrl+C within 2 seconds to abort.
==> ERROR: Build number doesn't seem sensible: 0
==> Using minecraft version: 1.18.2 / papermc build: 379```
lol I guess I need to fix my script 🙃lol
white pine
if ! [[ "$build" =~ ^[0-9]{3,5}$ ]]; then
here i was trying to be all safe and stuff
lilac moon
wait =~ works for regex?
void void
That’s great to hear Tysm!!
white pine
wait =~ works for regex?
yeah, in bash 5.x with two square brackets.
lilac moon
i usually write in posix sh so im not used to it
lmao shouldiblamecaching.com is amazing
ashen cliff
So, my NVME SSD refuses to work with non EFI Grub. Amazing.
lilac moon
is the partition table GPT
ashen cliff
I fully nuked it, tried everything, always get the same error.
lilac moon
you could try making sure you select MBR when formatting
molten egret
Anyone got a recommendation for chairs?
lilac moon
idk if thats default in whatever youre using
white pine
i usually write in posix sh so im not used to it
every modern linux distro and macos release comes with bash, i can't think of a reason to use posix sh unless you're targeting some bsd flavor or very old distros
lilac moon
i think that's what causes that problem
lilac moon
every modern linux distro and macos release comes with bash, i can't think of a ...
i have my sh linked to dash and it's faster, plus i dont need bash features for simple stuff
white pine
So, my NVME SSD refuses to work with non EFI Grub. Amazing.
you need a BIOS boot partition (type code 0xEF02)
signal harbor
that notification of release i thought it was full release not experimental im upset now
molten egret
People talking about mbr/gpt partitions
Vs
Me: I want a chair
lilac moon
you need a BIOS boot partition (type code 0xEF02)
yeah i think thats the thing i was failing to explain
white pine
you need a BIOS boot partition (type code 0xEF02)
~2MB is enough
lilac moon
wait what
golden gust
Yea, was never planned for a build 0, lol
ashen cliff
Didn't work. It would just refuse to read it.
signal harbor
the notification got me excited
lilac moon
i am confused
white pine
Didn't work. It would just refuse to read it.
it does not need to be formatted, grub-install should find it automatically
ashen cliff
Also tried that.
white pine
also you may need to specify --target=i386-pc when you're installing grub
ashen cliff
Even tried Ubuntu, Debian, even god damn boot-repair.
silver nexus
Anyone got a recommendation for chairs?
idk who it was but someone here was very obsessed with chairs for a bit
ashen cliff
Even did a partition copy from a working disk.
white pine
Even tried Ubuntu, Debian, even god damn boot-repair.
stupid question, but is legacy boot enabled in your BIOS?
ashen cliff
Block copy? Also nope.
white pine
shrug
molten egret
herman miller aeron
Is that actually a chair?
twin lagoon
yes
white pine
just use EFI? it's not that hard
twin lagoon
look knowing krusic he'll have a cursed reason for why he needs X
ashen cliff
Except that the Debian installer doesn't work with Proxmox UEFI defaults causing the screen to be a mess of pixels.
signal harbor
i am guessing a tuesday release for paper
white pine
TIL people still use proxmox
ashen cliff
What else would you even use?
signal harbor
it will be out when it's ready
yes
feral dagger
void void
Is it done?
twin lagoon
no
void void
Oh..
white pine
What else would you even use?
I'm using nspawn containers on filesystems cloned from zfs snapshots, but i'm definitely an odd one out in that regard
ashen cliff
Can you pass it a PCIe GPU?
twin lagoon
proxmox has LXC if you want your container shit
coarse venture
Study shows that 1 out of 1000 people notice the red notice.
white pine
no, you can't use a GUI either. why do you need a GUI or graphics? 😛
twin lagoon
who can really say
ashen cliff
To pass it our old production PCI-X card via 3 adapters and make it work in 2022?
white pine
tbh, with LXC or nspawn you can probably expose whatever device node you need for that stuff in the container
frank otter
speaking of gpus I found out that my sisters laptop actually has one capable of actually doing any kind of game rendering, so now I'm jealous
white pine
i've never tried it
frank otter
and I have had some very interesting visual glitches with Minecraft recently
every time I don't stand still everything like clips into black, so for a split second everything almost looks like coal ore
ashen cliff
So yeah. Proxmox it is. 🛌
lilac moon
Study shows that 1 out of 1000 people notice the red notice.
how's this?
had to figure out how to do that in the dev console
topaz mortar
adhust config headers build failed. 🙂
vernal moth
how's this?
Don't laugh that's what we did last time
Only looked even worse than that
coarse venture
<blink>
😄
i recorded it somewhere last time, when it slide in.
or whatever animation it used
true canyon
Distribute experimental like the legacy downloads! 😂
worthy geode
yes!
coarse venture
ppl will ignore it and run it because they 'must' be on 1.19, so even if it corrupts their worlds, they will do it. just how life is.
why backup, why test, why read warnings. go go go .. scared to lose 1 player.
true canyon
And they won't take backups because that's work that doesn't get them 1.19 🥺
golden gust
Theres currently work going on to redo the website, and so I don't wanna waste too much time on that thing
coarse venture
that 'must' to get to a goal, and then month later "next season starting this fall, reset in 5 weeks! buy new ranks now'. lol
coarse venture
oh that means: dont run it live, have fun testing, more details will follow
signal harbor
alr thanks
golden gust
only way we find issues is if people test it
signal harbor
what is most likely to happen if i do run it on a server
golden gust
we think that the builds are a bit more stable than "experimental"
signal harbor
and play normally
very excited for release
been waiting months to play
dont really think the update was worth waiting for
its pretty bad tbh
golden gust
but, they're still early builds, you'd be stupid to use it in an environment you care about, especially as early builds will come out faster now
coarse venture
i've been testing for days, with live data.. but - not in production of course.
topaz mortar
Is there a mechanic already to have channels?
https://api.papermc.io/v2/projects/paper/versions/1.19?channel=stable // default if absent
https://api.papermc.io/v2/projects/paper/versions/1.19?channel=experimental
Handled like the loglevel:
stable
experimental includes stable builds as well.
coarse venture
ah yeh i should find time to update my sh script to include stable toggle
signal harbor
are lots of issues being found?
or not really
very intrigued by development thats all haha
topaz mortar
ah yeh i should find time to update my sh script to include stable toggle
was a question. I assume the toggle is non existent. At least Swagger-UI doesn't show it.
atomic onyx
is there are channel to hire people?
coarse venture
oh, i read something about it in the 1.19 channel. about the api having a thingy
golden gust
No, we don't allow hiring, etc, here
atomic onyx
weird
coarse venture
i glanced over this: <#❗ 1.19 message>
atomic onyx
what's the man goal here
coarse venture
I doubt this discord is a marketplace platform.
true canyon
Paper and paper accessories
golden gust
Theres already places setup in the community for hiring people which deal with the moderation headaches that induces
vernal moth
Is there a mechanic already to have channels?
`https://api.papermc.io/v2/projec...
Mind throwing up an issue on the Bibliothek repo with this to see what people think?
atomic onyx
Theres already places setup in the community for hiring people which deal with t...
any example?
topaz mortar
i glanced over this: <https://ptb.discord.com/channels/289587909051416579/979403...
Ah thanks, it was in the response.
signal harbor
i think there's a commit channel somewhere
wow so not too many
i thought there would be more
coarse venture
Would it be useful now that it's on the site, to update the links in this post to point to that?
<#❗ 1.19 message>
wraith trail
void void
Will there be another experiment?
twin lagoon
obviously
quasi valley
Updated
limber knotBOT
this is about the api
vagrant marlin
yeah, but
vagrant marlin
spending much effort on it is a waste of time
rewrite it 100% with css
vagrant marlin
only css
molten egret
just make the browser render the css as plain text
limber knotBOT
oof, just saw that the world configs moved to the actual folders. that's gonna suck lol
worthy geode
why?
vagrant marlin
i am struggling with that change
worthy geode
allows sharing a world with a config included, I like that
limber knotBOT
having to modify like 10 files instead of one seems annoying
worthy geode
there is still a defaults file
limber knotBOT
I should probably look into some form of config management but... that's work 😆
limber knotBOT
defaults doesn't work if you have groups of worlds that should have similar settings that differ from default
limber knotBOT
also doesn't work if only certain setting should be similar and others should be different ;)
hence my comment about that I should look into proper config management lol
e.g. ansible
(also it's just work... hence me complaining in #general not one of the serious channels, this change is actually good for a proper setup)
it's just that nobody pays me for a proper setup on my hobby server ¯_(ツ)_/¯
worthy geode
pretty sure the setup behind the scenes on "professional" servers is equally messy
smoky cloud
Ansible is love
twin lagoon
pretty sure the setup behind the scenes on "professional" servers is equally mes...
generally no one gives a shit aslong as it works
nor does anyone touch world settings
limber knotBOT
well it might be messy but you can easily divert time to fixing it
I don't have 8h/day for working on a hobby lol I wish it was that easy
worthy geode
tbh I don't think I would have the motivation to look at block game code 8h/day
brave mountain
hoy
nova stump
how long in the prossess is the updating to 1.19?
brave mountain
what's new
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
nova stump
is it laggy?
vernal moth
Not really
noble stirrup
i see changes in worldgen compared to 1.18
molten egret
is it laggy?
unstable so it may not be slow, but it could throw an unhandled exception and crash suddenly tho
coarse venture
Could eat your goldfish
molten egret
yes
precisely
also could I have #adorable-pets perms?
I got like alot of cat vids
glass delta
my cloud settings set to fast and fancy at the same time how fix
molten egret
my cloud settings set to fast and fancy at the same time how fix
do f3+t
molten egret
oh you're in f11 mode
you can't see the keyboard
you don't even know of the keyboard
molten egret
wet storm
my cloud settings set to fast and fancy at the same time how fix
hold f3+c for 10 seconds
wet storm
@silver nexus skull emoji reaction abuse????
golden gust
vestal spruce
silver nexus
I LOVED THAT UNCLE THE MOST
glass delta
hold f3+c for 10 seconds
WHERES THE KEYBOARD
molten egret
you are stuck
someone needs to force an unhandled exception
then the game will crash and release you
wet storm
WHERES THE KEYBOARD
you don't need a keyboard, just write the symbols in the air lol
molten egret
you don't need a keyboard, just write the symbols in the air lol
but when the ground is reloaded there is a chance he will noclip
void void
minecraft
wet storm
but when the ground is reloaded there is a chance he will noclip
I hope he'll get many almond water then
molten egret
I hope he'll get many almond water then
tf is almond water anyways
molten egret
lol
real crow
silver nexus
Pie is ok, not my favorite but it depends on the kind ig
magic river
Wow, YouTube on Google TV and the subtitles don't render right
I'm getting <i>♪ Some words here ♪</i>
Hmm, maybe the video just did subtitles wrong, I should check on computer
Ok yeah the video is just jank
simple garden
@vernal moth haha dude this discordsrv is amazing. My friend got nuked by a creeper and it posted how she died to a lvl 22 creeper lol!!! Amazing plugin
When paper has a stable release do I have to update all my plugins or just the ones my server post in red?
placid thicket
hEy GuYs ShOuLd I rUn BuIlD 0 In PrOd?!?!??11?!
rare python
🤔
placid thicket
When paper has a stable release do I have to update all my plugins or just the o...
you should update all your plugins if available
simple garden
you should update all your plugins if available
I do normally I am just asking for the ones that I am waiting on.
placid thicket
I do normally I am just asking for the ones that I am waiting on.
test, if it works then it works. just keep in mind strange things can happen
simple garden
Pft wait till paper has a stable release. I tried the exp version 5 and it worked great I just used that as a template on which plugins complained lol I am still on 1.18.2 until 1.19 is ready.
But exp 5 worked great as far as I could tell. I didn't see any issues
placid thicket
doing the same pretty much, once paper is more stable will start pre-gen
simple garden
I installed multicore for when 1.19 comes so I can Gen a new world dedicated to 1.19 and still have the 1.18
snow iron
Cant wait for optifine 1.19 as well
placid thicket
Cant wait for optifine 1.19 as well
dont use optifine
unkempt jackal
honestly move on to fabric/quilt at this point
simple garden
I agree with flanigomik
placid thicket
iris and sodium are already ready
snow iron
dont use optifine
? why, is something wrong with it? i've been using optifine since literally forever
simple garden
That is what I switched over due to these lovely paper discord mems
twin lagoon
fabric mods are a faster/better alternative
simple garden
I get more fps and WAY SMOOTHER game play
unkempt jackal
and other Fabric mods that imitate the features of optifine have also already been updated
void void
Made a thing.
placid thicket
opti is just old at this point. everything it does is done better elsewhere
lament patio
Optifine is losing its performance enhancing aspect over time
simple garden
@warm anchor has a really easy to install guide for iris and fabric goodies
twin lagoon
optifine tends to break shit every now and then too
placid thicket
optifine tends to break shit every now and then too
you mean constantly?
simple garden
optifine tends to break shit every now and then too
Dude I get xray vision with otifine when I break a sand block under another sand block sometimes lol
Only when I use Astra shaders though
That's with optifine
placid thicket
also, every shader i have tried "just works" with Iris
simple garden
Oh and you can do SO MUCH with the shader settings with iris.
twin lagoon
optifine has shader settings too
placid thicket
not as in depth
simple garden
Use Astra shaders with iris and sodium and your life will be complete lol
twin lagoon
they're the exact same lol
placid thicket
either that or their UI is just trash
twin lagoon
iris did not have shader settings for the longest time
unkempt jackal
it comes down to the shader's creators as to how much settings there are
twin lagoon
and that
placid thicket
they did, but it was in a dev branch for like a year
simple garden
I couldn't edit Astra shaders the same with optifine unless I just missed the settings area.
warm anchor
Has optifine ever come out of beta since 1.16?
Felt like they always on pre-release and next major MC version will hit and cycle repeats lol
simple garden
Oh the great wise fabric god has spoken 🙌
Oh great EterNity preach your wise Fabricness
warm anchor
? why, is something wrong with it? i've been using optifine since literally fore...
Look at this. You will never go back! https://eternity.community/index.php/minecraft-client-optimization/
placid thicket
i also like not having to wait for forge to boot if i want to use opti with like anything
warm anchor
It’s just something I noticed, I use opti before 1.16 as well
Fabric ain’t that big before unlike now
snow iron
Look at this. You will never go back! <https://eternity.community/index.php/mine...
thanks, im too used to using optifine I woulnt even begin to know where else to look or what im even looking for to begin with, i dont mess with modding and stuff like that since like 2011 lol
warm anchor
The guide is made for people with zero experience in mind dotn worry
twin lagoon
i wouldn't bother with eternity's guide
just install https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/modpacks/fabulously-optimized through curseforge
warm anchor
Oh yeah just install that modpack lol
twin lagoon
https://fabulously-optimized.gitbook.io/modpack/readme/install-instructions or the other methods
simple garden
What there was a way I could mindlessly click my way to have it installed lol
simple garden
You know how many people I had to help by going back into our chat to use your link and stuff lol
placid thicket
ima steal most of both of those for my optimization modpack.
i have my own because i am picky 😦
simple garden
I've got most of my server buddies into using multi+fabric lol
placid thicket
other than simplicity is there a reason to switch from the vanilla client? i get people who are spooked by the right click button
warm anchor
I've got most of my server buddies into using multi+fabric lol
It’s good. The more the better 
simple garden
No we all argue who's mods r better lol
warm anchor
other than simplicity is there a reason to switch from the vanilla client? i get...
Vanilla client runs at 30 fps for me on my rtx card
That was biggest reason
Also if you want multiple version installed, having an installer made for those purpose is nice
simple garden
Does multi need rtx to run at peek?
placid thicket
sorry, should clarify. the vanilla launcher
twin lagoon
the vanilla launcher is ass
simple garden
I was gonna go with gtx 1660ti
twin lagoon
it's slow and unintuitive
warm anchor
I also had issue with multiple MS account. I got timeout when I switch them
placid thicket
yeah but is it just UI ass or is there more to it?
twin lagoon
instancing is an S tier function in multimc because of how easy it is
warm anchor
It was an entirely a vanilla launcher issue
twin lagoon
combined with grouping for organization
multimc allows you to install mod loaders from the launcher itself which is nice too
wet storm
Vanilla client runs at 30 fps for me on my rtx card
Wtf, even I don't get such low FPS on my poor graphic card in vanilla
placid thicket
i have been using ATLauncher for years myself. but again i deal with people who are scared of windows
twin lagoon
account switching is slow nowadays in the mc launcher aswell
simple garden
I have a sad gt 1330 and I get 70 fps
lament patio
I also had issue with multiple MS account. I got timeout when I switch them
In the Vanilla launcher?
warm anchor
Wtf, even I don't get such low FPS on my poor graphic card in vanilla
Try turn up the view distance to 32 
simple garden
Why r u getting less with a rtx
lament patio
I get some slight issues with MS accounts in multimc, keep having to refresh the token
warm anchor
In the Vanilla launcher?
Yeah there was a period of time where switch account will require login like every single time 
simple garden
If the game doesn't crash lol
lament patio
Lol yikes
wet storm
Try turn up the view distance to 32 <:rieYEP:816804770970337310>
Oh, I always play with 12 - 16 chunks...
simple garden
I run solid 10s makes the game run smooth for me.
placid thicket
play with 2 chunks in the deep dark. wont even see the warden coming till he stabs you
simple garden
I am souly a survival player so I don't need mass chunks
twin lagoon
i use 32 view distance aswell
most servers don't hit 32 anyways so it's just a way to get all of the server chunks sent
simple garden
And with Astra you can't see that far anyways with the fog.
placid thicket
i used Bobby to set my render distance to 100, 2060 was NOT happy with that
simple garden
How did your machine run with that
warm anchor
With farsight
placid thicket
was at about 25 FPS
warm anchor
You can get 32 VD given that chunks are loaded once for your client
Regardless of server setting.
placid thicket
Bobby does the same, but allows arbitrary distances
simple garden
Yeah I need a better card lol
2000+ rd is nuts
I am pretty sure I'd get a dialup tone if I try 2000+
Or a Skype ring tone at the least
unkempt jackal
anyone know a good zoom mod for fabric 1.19?
twin lagoon
zoomify
placid thicket
i was just about to recommend wi-zoom... too slow i guess
unkempt jackal
thanks guys
worthy geode
"up to 50x zoom"
who the hell needs that
unkempt jackal
me
placid thicket
people who have 1000+ render distances
warm anchor
"up to 50x zoom"
who the hell needs that
These falls into same category https://modrinth.com/mod/fabrishot/versions
twin lagoon
fabrishot is nice though
warm anchor
8k screenshot down to your pimple
worthy geode
Does it work with https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/screenshot-to-clipboard-fabric?
GOOD idea
worthy geode
"give me 5 minutes, gonna post my 8k block game screenshot"
placid thicket
can you even post those in discord? XD
warm anchor
Nitro user yes
placid thicket
i also have nitro, it still doesn't like even 4k images
warm anchor
placid thicket
you can post them, they just never load
warm anchor
I see
molten wedge
How could I join the paper staff team? As a paid member of possible.
lilac moon
i can send them in boosted servers
twin lagoon
How could I join the paper staff team? As a paid member of possible.
there are no paid members
placid thicket
How could I join the paper staff team? As a paid member of possible.
well not like that
molten wedge
there are no paid members
Well then how could I join the paper team?
placid thicket
if you have to ask, you aren't worthy
twin lagoon
notable contributors will eventually make their way up the ranks
molten egret
Well then how could I join the paper team?
donate enough money and you'll be up there
buy a full time dev to work on the paper project
then take all of the credit
worthy geode
thats evil
versed verge
I blame cache
void void
Opinion may be outdated due to caching
long spoke
how stable is the new experimental build?
versed verge
versed verge
how stable is the new experimental build?
I was using it today
void void
versed verge
it made my plugins go crazy and spam the chat :D
long spoke
hahaha
versed verge
and it lags a bit at the start of running the server
other then that it worked fine
jade flax
Probably best you wait until there is a release. There is no eta
unkempt jackal
I tried out the mods eternity has in their client optimization guide, and now I am a minecraft ruler. World's load at my command, entities realize they are useless to me and cull themselves. Even leaves bow before me.
worthy geode
But are there shadows
unkempt jackal
No
worthy geode
You need shadows. Join the slightly-darker-shaded side
simple garden
When a players logs into my server is it possible to setup a mail and such WITHOUT essentials
noble stirrup
how likely are worldgen bugs in 1.19 experimental builds?
twin lagoon
@waxen panther
lilac moon
name sounds familiar
waxen panther
@twin lagoon I would like to become a paid papermc org member
worthy geode
When a players logs into my server is it possible to setup a mail and such WITHO...
why without essentials? but there are a bunch of mail plugins
waxen panther
with a starting salary of 80k if possible
jade flax
You will need to make a donation of $160k or more
twin lagoon
<@215448923681062913> I would like to become a paid papermc org member
I would like to become a paid destiny 2 org member
void void
with a starting salary of 80k if possible
(per month)
waxen panther
SAME
worthy geode
why without essentials? but there are a bunch of mail plugins
if you want a bit of immersion, CourierNew. but there are also simpler plugins
lilac moon
When a players logs into my server is it possible to setup a mail and such WITHO...
does UndineMailer still exist, i remember it was like full on email inside minecraft
waxen panther
I been playing since 11am 😋
void void
how likely are worldgen bugs in 1.19 experimental builds?
pretty unlikely
lilac moon
does UndineMailer still exist, i remember it was like full on email inside minec...
oh it has not been updated since 1.15 but it probably still works
waxen panther
please report all bugs to @cunning raft
void void
we haven't encountered any that I know of other than some lighting issues (which have already been fixed)
simple garden
I actually don't like essentials command strings jacking up a lot of other commands. Like using a command block is annoying with essentials and using a simple command like "give @s" does not work unless I put "minecraft:give @s".
long spoke
im just wonderiung abt bugs if u arent using any plugins
worthy geode
I believe you can disable that somewhere
waxen panther
simple garden
does UndineMailer still exist, i remember it was like full on email inside minec...
Everything I google mail it pops up essientals
south raptor
I actually don't like essentials command strings jacking up a lot of other comma...
you can disable those commands in config
worthy geode
Everything I google mail it pops up essientals
you must be doing something very wrong
simple garden
I believe you can disable that somewhere
See if I knew there was a way to disable that then I would not have ditched essentials lol
lilac moon
Everything I google mail it pops up essientals
simple garden
Oh I was using YouTube so I didn't have to bother yall so much for help
waxen panther
lilac moon
you looked on youtube for a plugin?
worthy geode
why are you using youtube to search for plugins oO
lilac moon
pebkac
simple garden
Tutorials setting up mail plugin
worthy geode
thats a nice washing machine nozzle you got there!
someone fork spigot and name it WashingMachineNozzle
simple garden
My search results are littered with breakdowncraft -.-
lilac moon
i mean dont you just have to download the plugin and install, whats there a tutorial for
unkempt jackal
"oh yeah, I play Minecraft!"
listens to Lena Rain - Otherside in a carpeted room for hours
lilac moon
someone fork spigot and name it WashingMachineNozzle <:kekw:674093681963302933>
maybe ill have to do that
and NOT use a patching system :troll:
simple garden
It's the configuration files I like to get familiar with. So I know the gears of the plugins. I don't like blindly using plugins on my server.
worthy geode
"oh yeah, I play Minecraft!"
*listens to Lena Rain - Otherside in a carpeted roo...
her stuff is really good. she also did a few tracks for the GW2 soundtrack and they are also amazing
simple garden
Like for instance, emf plugin I edited the whole plugin to fit my need to have a head for each fish and I added different fish for each biome and my own set of rarities and custom events rather then just dl plug and play.
I do that with all the plugins so I can micro manage what's going on and ensure people aren't having issues on my server the best I can.
simple garden
Yeah star mail it is. I get a little mail box lol
worthy geode
CourierNew has a villager delivering a book to you
simple garden
O.o
Can the villager die lol
I will need some cop villagers arresting people trying to tamper with the mail
eager orbit
someone fork spigot and name it WashingMachineNozzle <:kekw:674093681963302933>
Nah, Someone needs to make Valve
molten egret
When a players logs into my server is it possible to setup a mail and such WITHO...
like email?
real email?
worthy geode
Can the villager die lol
don't think so, it also walks away and despawns. and you can ignore it and it comes back after some time
eager orbit
Nah, Someone needs to make Valve
because “Spigot is incomplete without the Valve™️”