Anyway, that's about getting in accidents or whatever
#general
magic river
I'm talking about a design issue that makes people in the back seat far more likely to die
Or everyone if the front doors are jammed shut or underwater or something
In general their cars might be fairly safe or safer than the competition but in this one particular case you're fucked
The way out of the back seat is to break the windows
unkempt drift
it looks like the X does have a manual release for the rear doors btw
magic river
Is it like the Y where you have to take the door apart to get it?
Or is it like a normal door where you pull the handle?
unkempt drift
no, you just remove the removable speaker cover and pull a cable. no taking the door apart required
magic river
Right so you take the door apart
unkempt drift
well in the sense that if your front hood release is in the glovebox you take your passenger side front interior apart to get to it
magic river
Oh, you just push a button and it pops off?
unkempt drift
after you remove the glove box cover
when does it become "take apart" if its designed to be opened?
magic river
When it's not obvious you can/should open it or need tools
unkempt drift
well idk how obvious or not it is, never been in an X. but dont think you need tools
magic river
Also you're clearly getting into the guts of the door here and pulling on a random wire
unkempt drift
well its not random. the car manual specifically talks about doing just this. its not a "hack" or something
magic river
That wire might only be there so you can pull on it but they could have just put a little lever there instead
This is very much not obvious
You know how you get out of most cars in an emergency? The same way you get out any other time 😄
unkempt drift
well speaking of patterns, a lot about teslas feel/are different from most other cars when you start to use them
magic river
That's usually not a good thing when talking about cars but okay
unkempt drift
shrug well thats not up to me for sure. but apparently its doing okay for them
magic river
Sure, they made the first electric car worth buying and got a lot of hype
I think at this point there are better options, assuming you aren't dependent on the supercharger network
Hopefully those options don't have doors that need a working electrical system to open
The issue is that Tesla's vehicles have a frameless door design meaning that the window has to come down a little bit before opening the door.
potent wedge
.PHP 💀
azure tinsel
does anyone here have experience with geyser? im running into a small error thats got me puzzled, if anyone could assist id be very thankful. (feel free to ping or dm)
vernal moth
Consider joining the geyser discord, lol
ashen cliff
Wiki servers.
Time to join 20 different MC mod servers to figure out how some random thing works once.
Even better when you are looking on the wiki and you see it just say, yeah, more info and the links to datasheets on Discord.
daring laurel
completely agree
vernal moth
People wanna build an audience
ashen cliff
If only.
light pivot
full rune
ashen cliff
@viral hornet
viral hornet
<@171898972330262538>
Nice photo but wot
ashen cliff
Food.
lavish compass
twin lagoon
little frost
😳
wet storm
https://tenor.com/view/cat-toilet-gif-21647392
Did it eat all rats?
magic river
https://tenor.com/view/cat-toilet-gif-21647392
Pull the lever
brave mountain
https://www.pcgamer.com/please-stop-making-discord-servers-for-things-that-shoul...
I read that
A discord server about things that should have a discord server.
real saddle
i have a problem in my server villagers auto lock trades how do i fix that
lament patio
Toggle the cheesing setting in IllegalStack
real saddle
ok let me check
is it bad or gd banning crystals overworld and in nether??
ppl use them for pvp
1shot
finite otter
helloooooooo
real saddle
hlo
golden gust
- don't ping random people
- use the correct channel and ask what you're having issues with
real saddle
1) don't ping random people
\🙌 U still alive
civic herald
Yeah it was ?spoon or something
civic herald
I remember there being a command for spoonfeeding
mental meadow
no more spoon
civic herald
We need a SpoonBot
mental meadow
only / commands now
civic herald
Can we just have spoon on Kaguya ;-;
mental meadow
I mean in theory yes but what would it say
vernal moth
why?
edge is objectively the best browser right now
its chrome, with a few nice additions
most of them will end up in chrome one or two releases down the line as microsoft upstreams them
potent wedge
?spoon
potent wedge
its chrome, with a few nice additions
Yeah, everything chrome adds comes down the line and everything edge adds comes to chrome. Edge is really performant too and these "forced vertical tabs" they aren't forced your just to dumb to find the massive button disabling them
golden gust
If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.
crystal lilyBOT
glass crag
edge has native vertical tabs? 👀 maybe its time to move off firefox
i was using that tree tabs extension but it didnt have great UX
turbid oar
Making a 1.18.2 factions server is interesting 🤔
potent wedge
Making a 1.18.2 factions server is interesting 🤔
no pay to win?
spare venture
factions 
turbid oar
factions <:kekwhyper:674093681904713729>
Giving it a try
magic river
Oops, turns out the mobile i5-1240P is faster than the i7-1260P and i7-1270P in real world usage so far due to thermal limits
The i5-1240P has the same 64W max as the i7s but has fewer GPU cores (and fewer CPU cores compared to the i7-1270P) so is probably going to win in any head-to-head comparison measuring CPU performance
The i7 models will only be faster if you put them in a laptop that has better cooling, if that's even possible
The green one there shows not every i5 design is going to beat the i7s but if you have something designed for the i7 then putting in i5 in it will probably get you better performance
smoky cloud
ARM laptop when
quasi cave
out of curiosity, is there anything unique about it vs AS? kind of look very similar in design
magic river
Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 is 75% of that i5 on geekbench single core and 45% on geekbench multicore
So... not any time soon if you're looking for peak performance
Unless you get a mac
golden gust
apple go brr
magic river
8 Gen 1 does have higher theoretical GPU performance though
Looking at peak F32 FLOPS
golden gust
Also, typical intel and thermals, you'd of though they'd of learned by now...
magic river
Oh yeah, an 8 Gen 1 in the same design as one of those Intel laptops would get way more battery life and might not need a fan
quasi cave
What are some good must-have premium plugins or that can at least help with enhancing the survival experience of Minecraft vanilla?
magic river
They might not be too different at idle/light usage but peak power usage for the 8 Gen 1 is probably like 10W while the Intel ones are supposedly 64W but probably go up to like 80W until they throttle
clever loom
hi uh where can i see "etc-help" channel? i need help with mc command
golden gust
er, I mean, kinda here
clever loom
er, I mean, kinda here
oh ok then
quasi cave
hi uh where can i see "etc-help" channel? i need help with mc command
here really 👍
magic river
M1 Max peak power usage is apparently 110W btw
clever loom
if i type "/playsound minecraft:music.creative music DisketteG" the thing will randomly select music from creative music is there something like a specific music selection?
golden gust
No
clever loom
M1 Max peak power usage is apparently 110W btw
M1 Max hot (not really)
quasi cave
did the funny bot die 😅
golden gust
The sounds which have multiple tunes basically have 0 control over what ends up playing on the client, I thiiink mojang was doing something to "improve" that in 1.19, but, gawd knows
outside of a resource pack, no
magic river
So while Apple's ARM designs are much more efficient than ARM's own and than Intel's x86 stuff they're only getting those high performance numbers by cranking the power up
golden gust
hey, if you got the gogo juice, I guess
clever loom
outside of a resource pack, no
i wonder, how does one a resource pack do?
golden gust
afaik you'd just be able to define custom sounds for the ones from the creative sound thing
idk how it all works, not my avenue
magic river
Like, sure, you can put an M1 in a 10W TDP tablet and get outstanding performance but if you actually want to go toe to toe with Intel you need to use Intel levels of power
They don't use as much as Intel does but in the same ballpark, well outside the range of a "mobile" CPU
The reason they can look so great and efficient is mostly that single core number, 11W for a single core task while beating Intel on performance
charred sleet
im trying to reverse engineer this api, anyone know what an iesCode is?
magic river
11th gen Intel used 30W where the M1 Max was using 11W, btw
charred sleet
or is it proprietary
magic river
That's a model number for a light or something
turbid oar
Ollie uwu 
magic river
magic river
It's not a smart bulb or something then?
charred sleet
nah
clever loom
The reason they can look so great and efficient is mostly that single core numbe...
ill take M1 Max over 12th gen Intel any day now
magic river
Context would be useful then 😄
charred sleet
lol true, its a signin api for an e-book service
educational books should that matter
golden gust
Yea, I mean, I think that's part of the fun of the apple M1 is that apple has the vertical integration to make it happen, and for most people, they're not thrashing the CPU as much as some of us do
charred sleet
as in, textbooks
golden gust
Have you, erm, tried that hub of the sciences?
depending on what you're looking for i guess
I mean, probs nothing to do with what you're doing but, gawd knows
charred sleet
i mean im just watching the requests go out and then all of a sudden it appears
/app/login?iesCode=qAPKxh65my
magic river
So no then
charred sleet
nope
magic river
Yeah I dunno that one
charred sleet
probably proprietory then
magic river
It's not base64
charred sleet
hmm
b'{"status":"error","message":"com.ed.pi.commons.exception.PiObjectNotFoundException: Escrow expired or not found","code":"400-BAD_REQUEST"}'
if i send a request without that ies thing i get this
very java looking exception classpath lol
magic river
I suppose it could be a base53 encoded 512-bit number? I think I did the math right on that
Probably some oauth-like thing, code is one time use and is a part of the handshake between whatever you're trying to use and whatever you're logging in to
Also someone is being naughty, they don't own ed.com
charred sleet
Yeah thats what i looks to be, ill keep digging through the requests for a bit longer but im quite confused.
charred sleet
Also someone is being naughty, they don't own ed.com
haha, i tried to google that classpath to see if it was opensource or something, but no
quick obsidian
out of curiosity, is there anything unique about it vs AS? kind of look very sim...
You can create custom effects and stats in config with no coding knowledge, it's more configurable in general, everything can be completely customized, the API is more permissive and hooks better into other plugins, etc etc etc
charred sleet
Probably some oauth-like thing, code is one time use and is a part of the handsh...
foubnd where it comes from, one of the request 302's to another address which has it on the url that it is pointing at
thanks for your help though
clever loom
if i type "/playsound minecraft:music.creative music DisketteG" the thing will r...
How about a specific note block sounds?
magic river
foubnd where it comes from, one of the request 302's to another address which ha...
That's almost certainly an oauth-like thing then
charred sleet
yeah for sure
jagged egret
is there a way to get rid of the background for chat from a resource pack
or the background for captions
worthy geode
no, its not a texture
jagged egret
hm
worthy geode
you can disable it in the chat options tho
warm anchor
Captions are for accessibility I don’t think you should be allowed to change it in first place lol
quasi cave
You can create custom effects and stats in config with no coding knowledge, it's...
nice, ngl but I'm a bit of a lazy fool lol, anyway is there any other plugins you would recommended to get along with it or is it the only one needed?, my server will basically be themed around vanilla survival but with rpg elements that enhance the experience rather then completely overhaul the entire game lol
potent wedge
Texture packs be giving captions unreadable text if you let them lol
quick obsidian
nice, ngl but I'm a bit of a lazy fool lol, anyway is there any other plugins yo...
my other plugins go along with it perfectly - if you want to have a look what happens when you combine them all together, hop on play.ecomc.net
jagged egret
I want to make a little mod to add support for displaying text in the 4 corners of the screen via plugin messages. Or even just to send the GUI scale to the server on login. Then using resource packs & custom fonts you could display any UI elements you wanted
worthy geode
oh, we did this, but we just added a menu for players to move the text left/right so it fits the screen so no client mod is needed
I just wish something like spoutcraft would still exist, that was so nice
jagged egret
Or if OptiFine just added a plugin message that sent GUI scale, could do the same thing
twin lagoon
god not optifine
worthy geode
eh, Optifine
twin lagoon
painful enough to work with optifine already
jagged egret
what's wrong with optifine
twin lagoon
everything
worthy geode
bad enough that its the only thing that supports custom entity models
jagged egret
Actually that wouldn't work, because the width has to depend on window width, not just GUI scale
worthy geode
Spoutcraft was really great, servers could do GUIs, custom items and blocks, models without the users needing to install individual mods.
Sadly abandoned since nearly 10 years now
limber knotBOT
I mean you can still do the same thing with literally any modpack ¯_(ツ)_/¯
worthy geode
yes, but the main benefit was that users just needed to install one mod, and not different mods for every server
limber knotBOT
I mean, you don't need to install different mods for every server if all the servers just use the same mod?
it was the same with spoutcraft: if any server wanted to use a mod that wasn't spout then they would have to install it manually lol
worthy geode
yeah some of the stuff spout did like custom sounds is done by ressource packs now
limber knotBOT
(also technically you were able to install any mod on the client until late 2021 but nobody did taht)
runs
glass crag
point is you could join different servers with different experiences without different mods
limber knotBOT
which you still can. there is plenty of mods (e.g. optifine) which allow the server to enhance gameplay in significant ways
twin lagoon
or not use mods
limber knotBOT
and there is several custom gui mods... now to get everyone to install such a mod(pack) is the difficult one ;D
which was the same issue with spout, they never reached a significant market share
spare venture
spout is where mojang should go with resource packs
worthy geode
yeah, mainly because it died in 1.6.4
the whole project didn't even exist for longer than a year
glass crag
rip
worthy geode
spout is where mojang should go with resource packs
yeah. Although I doubt they add stuff like key press events, that was really cool for skills
limber knotBOT
just require your players to run a version without log4shell fix 
spare venture
lmao
worthy geode
also iirc it had the server change packet that bedrock nowadays has as well
spare venture
server-client interactions could definitely be significantly improved, maybe someone should put that on their feedback site
glass crag
getting key presses would be really cool
spare venture
ya i don’t know if java ever gets a server change packet in its current state
maybe if partnered servers were a thing
limber knotBOT
I doubt they plan sending key presses but properly assigning custom actions to items/blocks will definitely be added at some point if they really want custom to add items/block/entities
worthy geode
what was also nice is that it had some convenience features like fog settings and zoom (?) but the server could control if and how players could use them
limber knotBOT
server change packet is pointless imo, we have good proxy software
and the server change in the bedrock form could be easily abused lol
spare venture
i would not say pointless
everything can be abused, resource packs can be abused too but that doesn’t seem to be a problem at all
woeful latch
Hello!
spare venture
not a good reason to prevent progress imo
woeful latch
So um, i have a quick question
worthy geode
quick!
woeful latch
is it possible to make a gui, inside a npc that has items to teleport someone?
limber knotBOT
the abuse with resource packs is not even close to what you could do with the server change lol
spare venture
yes through plugins
woeful latch
i havent found a single video on youtube
woeful latch
yes through plugins
mhm mhm
i tried searching
1 of 2, im either not searching right
or youtubers dont like to talk npcs
spare venture
phoenix: what abuse are you talking about? a server sending you to some random server?
limber knotBOT
you need to use the "industry" standard terms when seraching
and not search youtube...
worthy geode
"inside the NPC" is probably not right. you want an inventory GUI that opens when clicking on an entity
woeful latch
where to search?
limber knotBOT
youtube sucks for seraching for any kind of substantial information lmao
spare venture
/google gui custom npc spigot commands
limber knotBOT
start by using google
spare venture
for fucks sake
upbeat falconBOT
limber knotBOT
@spare venture mostly ddos/(hate) raids
spare venture
ofc i forgot spigot
glass crag
it's AI
woeful latch
holy
upbeat falconBOT
limber knotBOT
also claiming like a certain server is yours by just redirecting players lmao
woeful latch
its lowkey amazing
spare venture
no it isn’t
woeful latch
Isnt citizen a paid plugin?
limber knotBOT
at least you would need some kind of "I accept player sends from server xzy" setting
spare venture
if you want to pay for it, yes
woeful latch
if you want to pay for it, yes
what if i dont wnt to pay for it?
limber knotBOT
citizens is free but paid support
spare venture
probably phoenix. “This server is trying to send you to xxxxx, do you wish to be sent there?”
woeful latch
:trollface:
glass crag
now i have to deal with CORS in minecraft
spare venture
or just pay for the support
spare venture
ok i might charge you at this rate
woeful latch
ok i might charge you at this rate
plz dont im broke asf
woeful latch
I still dont get y zeus is screwing me over at this point
spare venture
go to #paper-help for plugin related help. go ask the plugin developer for support if you need help on a specific plugin
abstract aspen
do i just log in
If you want to see the thing yes I'd suggest listening to the banner saying you need to log in to see the thing
spare venture
phoenix, i think it would be pretty easy to reduce abuse with transfer packets so I don’t really see the harm
limber knotBOT
the harm is there if it's done the exact same way it is in bedrock
which as far as I know has zero protection to any of the scenarios I mentioned
of course it could be done in a better way ¯_(ツ)_/¯
woeful latch
If you want to see the thing yes I'd suggest listening to the banner saying you ...
ok
i have no idea how to use the spigot website
also my english is less than ****
golden gust
I mean, the linked result above is not premium
citizens is premium but can be got for free
limber knotBOT
although I guess redirecting someone to a server that they haven't agreed to send data to beforehand could potentially go against certain privacy protection laws already but I'm no lawyer lol
woeful latch
citizens is premium but can be got for free
how so?
mental meadow
electroniccat[google]
abstract aspen
although I guess redirecting someone to a server that they haven't agreed to sen...
I'd assume logging ips to logs that most people never delete is also questionable in terms of privacy laws but not sure
glass crag
it surely cant be that different to redirecting a user to a different website legally
abstract aspen
googlecat[yes-ping]
limber knotBOT
it's not, redirecting without consent is most likely also an issue legally speaking but afaik it also depends on the jurisdiction the server is in
e.g. redirecting an EU citizen to an US server without their consent is most likely illegal
limber knotBOT
any server and potentially traffic that is in a different jurisdiction is potentially an issue. if and how much of an issue it is really depends on the privacy rights that the individual user has
but that's more a question for your lawyer if you do any kind of commercial activity
spare venture
a prompt before sending them would probably resolve that
does that mean any redirect is considered illegal? link shortening sites?
limber knotBOT
it depends, ask your lawyer
also technically there are still a good chunk of law suits not resolved on that topic at least in the EU
NOYB is pretty active in that space if you want to learn more about that
spare venture
read the rest
turbid oar
yep
glass crag
reading is hard
woeful latch
especially when im dog ****** at english
turbid oar
go ahead and read college books 
void void
that is the only plugin I made a spigotmc account for
woeful latch
that is the only plugin I made a spigotmc account for
same
lmao
any tutorials i can use?
void void
just click download
its not hard
I have done intense statistics and research within the last few hours and have estimated that paper 1.19 will release before 30th of September 2022
native wolf
void void
LMAO yes
limber knotBOT
seeing as they have released a prerelease already, before the end of september seems reasonable
woeful latch
ok plugins downloaded
how do i create the gui
and how do i make it tp players to specific place?
spare venture
google is a good start
worthy geode
quick question
🤔
void void
seeing as they have released a prerelease already, before the end of september s...
yeeee
still sorrel
Mojang didnt deliver on their promises again
void void
ikr
still sorrel
No fireflies or birch wood biome update
void void
bundles - NO
archeology - NO
other stuff kinda useless [ by this I mean , not really looking forward to that ]
still sorrel
They said that they will likely never do anything with those ideas
wide chasm
Well, bundles are in the game
void void
wait what
worthy geode
they wanted to do fireflies as entities and yeah
still sorrel
Didnt they get removed
worthy geode
bundles are in the game since quite some time lol
wide chasm
No, bundles are still here
still sorrel
Even in 1.19?
wide chasm
Yes
spare venture
mojang adds tons of content to game in big update
mojang removes one essentially tiny entity that didnt really do much from this update
riots
still sorrel
Bro, fireflies were supposed to add so much mood
worthy geode
yes but you know how well the game handles lots of entities
spare venture
might as well delete the game at this point, they ruined the game /s
golden gust
did they give a reason they didn't add them?
golden gust
lolrly
still sorrel
That was the reason
void void
ye
wide chasm
Yes
spare venture
a bad reason i think, and they really didnt do themselves any favors saying that publicly
wide chasm
Their comedy team really peaked with that statement lol
golden gust
Hasn't this one happened before? PMSL
spare venture
riding dolphins
jagged egret
yeah the other one was riding dolphins or something
still sorrel
And they made a bad excuse for not doing the birch biome
jagged egret
oh and cookies to parrots
frank otter
couldn't you use to be able to feed parrots cookies?
still sorrel
Saying it was just a concept
frank otter
oh ye
jagged egret
I'm always confused by how long it takes Mojang to add biomes and stuff until I try to mod Minecraft
wide chasm
I'll remember for the next mob vote that they are just screenshots, so they might not be added at all
worthy geode
imo the real reason was that there was no way to make fireflies with the current entity system
spare venture
its easy to add it, but adding it in the right way and without major issues?
worthy geode
they can't be particles because of interaction with other entities, and making them entities would be absolutely horrible for performance
still sorrel
They could add fireflies as swarm or something to make it one entity
jagged egret
ok fireflies aside, the birch biome should be easy as heck to add
still sorrel
Ye
wide chasm
Well, they didn't want them to interact anymore seemingly, because they don't want frogs to eat fireflies. At which point, no more entity interaction, so just make them a particle or part of the biome or smth.
spare venture
not good pr but i genuinely cannot be upset with that
jagged egret
Even that would be fine though. Something to add ambiance
worthy geode
I have no idea how many people work on Java, but Mojang itself is a pretty small studio so it makes sense that they aren't that fast
wide chasm
You should take a look at the credits of the game, that thing takes thirty minutes, they literally credit the entire world 🙂
worthy geode
they also credit everyone who has ever worked on it to. Notch is also still in there somewhere, even today
golden gust
Yea, we did talk about our concerns of fireflys with them
spare venture
current developers there aren't that many
limber knotBOT
I mean, notch is an asshole, not a war criminal lol
worthy geode
he got removed from the splash screens tho
still sorrel
So when is hytale releasing again...
wide chasm
Probably never at this point
limber knotBOT
never™
worthy geode
At this rate, never
wide chasm
lol
worthy geode
I mean, Riot will make sure they release something eventually. But idk what they are even doing anymore
limber knotBOT
@worthy geode wellt he splash screen is a lot more public
wide chasm
Didn't Riot stop working with them or smth?
still sorrel
Last hytale blog update was last year November
limber knotBOT
they own them
wide chasm
Oh lol
limber knotBOT
" It is planned to be released for PC, consoles, and mobile devices by 2023." according to wikipedia (without a source) ¯_(ツ)_/¯
wide chasm
I'm predicting it now, it will not release by 2023.
spare venture
hytale sounds cool
limber knotBOT
I really wish wikipedia had a view like git blame...
worthy geode
im sure it will release eventually, but it seems like the development is not really going to plan. at least from the outside, hard to judge these things
but Riot can just throw money at it if everything else fails
still sorrel
They fucked up the project scope
worthy geode
ehh, it got larger, but it makes sense if its no longer a small indie project
wide chasm
If they want it to succeed sales-wise they'll definitely have to build up the hype again
There was hype at the start, but that is completely gone given the lack of updates.
golden gust
I mean, the project developed much more hype than they expected
and so they felt more pressure that the first release would be better than they where generally aiming for
i.e. more features, closer to being "complete", etc
wide chasm
How long was elden ring in development
Development apparently started in 2017, so five years-ish
still sorrel
Releasing frequent updates would also keep the game alive
Idk why they want to deliver the full package at once
golden gust
Joy is is getting a solid core to base off first with features actually useful for people to do stuff with
wide chasm
If there's too little at the start, people leave and don't come back.
golden gust
unless they wanted to go like, the rust way, where everything keeps breaking for years until it's finally "stable"
worthy geode
they released an update video back in october when Riot did that for most of their current projects
for more its probably just too early, you don't want to build up hype if the release is still a while out
golden gust
Issue is is that this ain't just a typical game in a sense
their goals to build something which minecraft dreams of being in a sense
limber knotBOT
the real question is: why do we need a third (or is it fourth now?) Minecraft?
runs
still sorrel
I thought this energy drink would wake me up a bit but now I just feel like throwing up
worthy geode
Im also a bit unsure about that, I kinda don't want Minecraft to loose popularity to another game
still sorrel
I used sparkedhost
golden gust
Well, bearing in mind that hypixel started years ago around the time of the EULA being dropped iirc
or, well, mojang announcing that they where going to start enforcing it
still sorrel
Hm those prices seem cheap
golden gust
mojang didn't clamp down as hard as they seemed that they where going to in a sense, and, the game is slowly becoming more customisable
worthy geode
I would suspect overselling with those prices
potent magnet
yeah and it's a decent cpu
golden gust
sub $1-2/G is pretty much gonna be overselling
Can't really comment too much on random hosts, ctrl-f in here, maybe somebody said something about them, otherwise 🤷♂️
still sorrel
Does hytale delaying their game this much make sense from a business perspective
worthy geode
in the end they are most likely a hetzner reseller, so we know what they are paying for their servers, and there is just a lower limit if you still want to make a profit without overselling
worthy geode
Does hytale delaying their game this much make sense from a business perspective
Yes, better than releasing an unfinished product
still sorrel
Stakeholders were already going crazy with the cyberpunk ordeal
Not that it ended well
worthy geode
yes, but CDPR is doing oldschool game dev with one major release every few years
worthy geode
Riot on the other hand is just printing money with league
still sorrel
True
limber knotBOT
does it matter though? hytale will either: a) release and sell, b) release and not sell or c) not release
and I personally doubt that a) will be the case unless riot pulls some riot-magic out of their arse
golden gust
hypickle started a project, jested it too early, developed more hype than they expected and thus felt it was mor eimportant to deliver something more refined for the masses vs the sharp edged thing they where planning to drop as a rolling project
golden gust
I think right now is that they wanna drop something which is fairly refined vs the early in-dev they where originally planning
still sorrel
Under the daggers and dashes section
golden gust
they wanna be a stable project to work off vs everything else which releases early and has break after break until it finally gets stable
spare venture
they got a money printer to fund the project and now they can live comfortably
warm anchor
Hytale first or hangar?
warm anchor
potent magnet
ah there it is, sparkedhost
same price for a worse processor
who's hosting in germany anyway
spare venture
it sounded more like they hyped it up to boost their chance of getting funded by riot
worthy geode
they got a money printer to fund the project and now they can live comfortably
they also apparently could afford making a series with the same budget per episode as GoT so... yes
spare venture
r u sure
warm anchor
Yea
limber knotBOT
(and everyone else in europe seeing as we are pretty central ;D)
still sorrel
Yup
worthy geode
also a bunch of other people because Hetzner is really cheap
potent magnet
shouldn't be the same price for a worse processor
limber knotBOT
second most servers are hosted in germany (after the US) at least according to bstats ;D
still sorrel
Headphone amplifier
worthy geode
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/815906196472332352/977591824648642560/u...
thats like 10x the price of all headphones I own combined lol
golden gust
there are hosts which still charge like 5-10/GB around
worthy geode
Sometimes I wonder if im deaf or something because I can not hear the difference between headphones like those and the ones I usually use
potent magnet
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/815906196472332352/977591824648642560/u...
have fun waiting 6-20 business weeks
still sorrel
Sometimes I wonder if im deaf or something because I can not hear the difference...
What is the best headphone you tried?
spare venture
what is a business week
still sorrel
5 days
worthy geode
idk, I have a friend who is also into all this audio stuff and I tried his, but idk what exactly he was using
abstract aspen
have fun waiting 6-20 business weeks
It'll only take about 4 weeks but okay lol
still sorrel
Lol
worthy geode
with the current china shipping situation I doubt this
spare venture
if you say it's going to take 2 business weeks, that's the equivalent of 2 weeks...
abstract aspen
I've ordered lots of stuff from China recently and all of it has come on or before the quoted time on Aliexpress
potent magnet
It'll only take about 4 weeks but okay lol
so 6 business weeks
still sorrel
with the current china shipping situation I doubt this
Whats going on?
spare venture
????
worthy geode
I wanted to order some small plastic stuff and the option was either 12 weeks or air freight for like $150
still sorrel
Also this amp can only be bought from aliexpress where I am located sadly
worthy geode
Whats going on?
covid restrictions in major ports and a large backlog of containers
limber knotBOT
cheaper to buy a 3d printer and print it yourself
still sorrel
Oof
pale river
@potent magnet #paper-help message Humble servers advertises a thread as a core
so if there's an 8 core 16 thread CPU, you get 1 thread or half a core
Tried chargebacking for this but it was only over $6 so I gave up
golden gust
I mean, theres some decent shared hosts
Like, renting a dedi is ofc gonna be better, but, er...
pale river
Pebblehost is better because they don't cap your CPU if there's room on the node
vernal moth
IF
pale river
but it's still dependent on your node
pale river
very difficult to benchmark as I've gotten a new node and performance tanked once others were also on it
cunning raft
the germans are vague posting again!
pale river
Which is why I host servers that matter on bloom/dedicatedmc/pufferhost
vernal moth
the germans are vague posting again!
Somebody gotta spice it up here
wide chasm
Shared hosting is cheaper than dedicated. If you don't have the money for dedicated, then, well, you go shared.
pale river
which have dedicated resources for not terrible prcies
spare venture
the point of shared hosting is for people who don't know what they're doing and don't have money
vernal moth
You can get small servers with dedicated resources, don't need a full server server
pale river
I use shared hosting so if someone thinks it's funny to attack my plugin test server, production doesn't go down.
wide chasm
You can also get a small shared server, which should be cheaper than a small dedicated server.
spare venture
tcpshield?
wide chasm
Go with your budget, but don't expect more than your budget either.
vernal moth
Most people don't know that they are being screwed over tho
golden gust
I mean, depends on the host, for the most part, yea, you're getting a sore dick deal, but, I mean, most people using them are either incapable of managing a dedi or don't have the cash to throw down for one, so, I mean, it's an option for them
foggy veldt
Tbh tho, with shared hosts all u need is good support. chances are if you’re using shared host u don’t have a workload where the resources become an issue. When you do then you switch to dedi
Most of the people on shared have like 2 concurrent players
vernal moth
Then you can just use your PC if you only play with friends anyways
golden gust
depends, once again
especially with the rise of CGNAT
and people wanting to play even when you don't, etc
ashen cliff
Tbh tho, with shared hosts all u need is good support. chances are if you’re usi...
You have no idea how many people have leaking servers/don't restart them.
Hogging up all of the resources.
jagged egret
mildly interesting, I bought a box of mixed variety lay's chips and on the side it said that the numbers on the box aren't guaranteed due to supply chain issues
spare venture
translation: they got rid of their quality department
wet storm
I made Frustum.isVisible method return random boolean on a client for fun, and now I know that chunks will blink every render tick in this case...
jagged egret
look at the bezels on this monitor :O https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BX3FCJG/
charred sleet
look at the bezels on this monitor :O https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BX3FC...
im not seeing anything...
jagged egret
twould be legendary for a multi monitor setup
charred sleet
oh yeah it would look siiick
anyone have like thin-and-light laptop reccomendations?
jagged egret
Depending what you're wanting to use it for, I just got a Lenovo Legion 7 slim and it's fantastic
but i have a skewed perception of thin-and-light
charred sleet
what are the arrow keys doing 👀
jagged egret
(https://etech.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/103674-scaled.jpg this was my previous laptop
jagged egret
the old one weighed about 7 lbs, so yeah
I actually like the arrow keys like that, I find it really annoying when they have half-height up/down keys or try to do things to get it to fit
charred sleet
yeah i imagine it could be nice to use, just looks kinda goofy
jagged egret
i'm realizing those monitors are very unique in that they have the same bezel on the bottom edge as the other edges
charred sleet
woah, they charge £100 for windows 11
jagged egret
who
charred sleet
jagged egret
interesting. I bought mine on sale from best buy open box. Paid like half the MSRP :D
charred sleet
the only difference here is that the one on the right has win 11
vernal moth
Makes sense, no?
charred sleet
oh thats very nice
vernal moth
Since they also install it for you
charred sleet
Makes sense, no?
does it? windows 10 isnt free either so why is 11 +100
jagged egret
Windows 10 is better anyway
vernal moth
Oh I thought no OS
jagged egret
really? you're the first person I've heard say that
golden gust
reimaging labour?
jagged egret
Also if you do buy one, just know it doesn't work with Ubuntu very well if you go with the 4K screen option
charred sleet
no issues
vernal moth
Win11 is nice
jagged egret
huh, I might have to try it
golden gust
I mean, worse case you just get the one with 10 and let it upgrade itself
make sure that it supports TPM 2, etc
jagged egret
it also has nvidia + amd graphics so if you use ubuntu it's a struggle
vernal moth
Who cares
jagged egret
amen
charred sleet
but yea, i wouldnt be linux-ifying it
spare venture
twould be legendary for a multi monitor setup
silver looks ugly, stands out too much
jagged egret
I'm probably going to get a VESA mount arm so I won't need the stand anyway
spare venture
kinda expensive for only 1080p 60 Hz
vernal moth
But the nice ones with the gas arm
jagged egret
I think it's the vesa mountability, but I'm not sure
The tricky thing is I run my dual monitors through a USB-C hub and I don't know how well it would handle anything higher
jagged egret
I've found a surprising number that don't
woeful latch
i wanna talk to a ai for some reason
[it was a dare]
phoenix616 hello!
@phoenix616 hello!
hmmmmm
jagged egret
don't
woeful latch
y?
jagged egret
you already pinged him
woeful latch
i have a dare i must complete
jagged egret
yeah, you don't have to @ you just say his name
jagged egret
he's also not an ai
charred sleet
how can you be sure
woeful latch
he aint responding
jagged egret
wait
woeful latch
:'[
vernal moth
It's Saturday evening, you should consider that people have lives
charred sleet
you're here 👀
vernal moth
Am waiting for the tram home...
charred sleet
ah ok fairs
vernal moth
Watched doctor strange
charred sleet
did you like it? i would give it an average rating
vernal moth
did you like it? i would give it an average rating
Meh
worn ember
Quality
warm anchor
I don’t see nothing 
worthy geode
thats true minimalist design
spiral robin
small indie company
twin lagoon
@void void
void void
@twin lagoon
twin lagoon
void void
warm anchor
void void
<:AYAYARie:788407255200038912>
red palm
anyone know a plugin to change the loot in the chests of things like temples and nether fortresses?
thorny totem
magic river
Uh oh, new EAP, how much is broken this time?
Oh wow they dropped support for AngularJS
(that's the 1.x version)
jagged egret
@red palm can't you use a loot table for that?
worthy geode
you can, yes. they also asked in syscraft and got a plugin answer there (RoseLoot)
void void
red palm
<@287358576912236554> can't you use a loot table for that?
wdym by use a loot table? do u mean a loot table plugin?
or is there a simpler way idk about
magic river
datapacks
rare python
tardy light
vernal moth
vernal moth
Aleyküm selam, before you gonna ask something, I would suggest you to read our rules and proceed to speak english
lusty kindle
türkçen var madem neden ingilizce konuşuyon @vernal moth
vernal moth
türkçen var madem neden ingilizce konuşuyon <@134340832093405184>
- I don't speak turkish, lol. selam alyküm might be the only turkish I know other than döner, lmao
- this is an english server, am not gonna say this again. people here speak all kinda different languages, but we choose to speak english so everybody can understand everybody.
rare python
one sec lemme pull up google translate
thorn flicker
vernal moth
and its not even turkish, I think I learned that in egypt
guess its the same for all these languages
lusty kindle
1) I don't speak turkish, lol. selam alyküm might be the only turkish I know oth...
volume, there is 1 video, i don't do it, it doesn't work
cosmic raft
half escarp
when using proxies (velocity), do the backend servers have to be publicly available to everyone
rare python
No
half escarp
can firewall block them or it will cause issues?
rare python
That is exactly what you do not want to allow
Velocity will prevent it automatically
Bungee/Waterfall requires a firewall or plugin
half escarp
prevent what exactly
rare python
People connecting without the proxy
half escarp
what if i use bungeeguard
rare python
You don't need it with Velocity
half escarp
ok so velocity is alreadt brought with security right?
half escarp
online mode will be on right? i dont want to disable it
rare python
If online mode is off, you will notice.
half escarp
is there a forwarding mode that support all versions including legacy
vagrant marlin
yes, bungeeguard or legacy
vagrant marlin
yes.
half escarp
currently using bungeeguard and firewall
half escarp
java.lang.IllegalStateException: Backend server is online-mode!
limber knotBOT
it needs to be in offline mode for the proxy to be able to connect
violet tulip
can villagers find a path to a block if it's only accessible by climbing a ladder?
limber knotBOT
probably not
worn ember
Villagers dum
spare venture
currently using bungeeguard and firewall
why exactly are you using bungeeguard if you have access to the firewall?
half escarp
extra security
radiant oriole
can villagers find a path to a block if it's only accessible by climbing a ladde...
They should be able to yes
spare venture
extra security
it adds no extra security
spare venture
maybe because you have a plugin fucking with your firewall
spare venture
oh docker
golden gust
Basically, you need to use a different chain vs INPUT
list the chains, it's like some docker user one or something, idr
golden gust
use iptables directly
half escarp
it's harder to work with
golden gust
then you're SOL
unless you can get UFW to work with the chains relevant to docker
otherwise, docker will hijack the traffic before it even gets to the INPUT rules
outside of that, really, use the docker interface or something for binding the servers to, and then communicate from the proxy over that
floral mesa
yeah, docker does not play nicely with ufw or any firewall wrapper
the only one that has worked to some degree is firewalld
but thats a very advanced setup compared to ufw
and docker's firewalld implementation is largely a compromise with Redhat based distros
sudden tundra
Hi, i don't think that's #paper-help, so, what's the max TNT explosions that can happen every tick on paper ?
void void
there is a config
magic river
I think I have a memory leak...
The spot where it recovered a little is when I did a new deploy, not a GC
That makes me thing it's not actually my fault though, my code got completely shut down and started up again but the memory usage didn't recover
Oh wow
It's actually the microsoft process responsible for getting the data to make that graph
wet storm
Is there any API alternative for ResourceKey from bukkit / adventure?
wet storm
I mean, Namespaced key is API for ResourceLocation
golden gust
No
ResKey is for the internal registry stuff
you'd jsut store what type of registry you're accessing
lilac moon
whats the link or slash command or whatever about the JVM memory usage using more than allocated, I need to send it to a friend in another server
crystal lilyBOT
-Xmx controls the amount of heap memory assigned to the JVM, this does not include other memory used by java, or native memory used by other libraries such as netty (for networking) or SQLite. Please do not allocate all of your memory!
golden gust
that one?
wet storm
Has spigot ever used obfuscated names for a server at runtime?
wide chasm
Spigot used to use their own mappings, but those were not complete, so there were plenty of names that were still obfuscated.
wraith trail
they still do use their own mappings, see
true canyon
Not a new thing to Spigot. We (Bukkit) only mapped stuff we actually used. No need to waste update time coming up with a name for a field or method you aren't touching.
wide chasm
I suppose if the question is, are they re-obfuscating stuff, then, to my knowledge, no. The obfuscation is from Mojang and Spigot just removes some, but not all, of the obfuscation.
golden gust
Yea, spigot basically just carried on with bukkits mappings which generally just feel into disrepair
The big thing for CB is that the names are normalised and pretty much always have been in the final jar
ashen cliff
How do you know it's summer?
11 people asked on how to see the hashed password as clear text in AuthMe.
ashen cliff
:Contabo:
golden gust
only the best, bro
ashen cliff
ashen cliff
I mean, I already needed to try all the cards to reschedule a flight.
🇷🇺 bank moment.
void void
Can I ask something?
ashen cliff
You already did.
rare python
Can I ask something?
No
vernal bone
Who wants to help me make a hosting provider?
No need for other people, you can just follow this simple guide! https://summerhoax.com/
blazing quarry
Is Multipaper being developed by the Paper team or is it someone different entirely?
abstract aspen
Does anyone know if there is a way to get the minecraft username or uuid of a person i authenticate on my site using Microsoft oauth?
golden gust
abstract aspen
Thanks!
twin lagoon
edge is objectively the best browser right now
doesn't include an image format that's been supported in chrome for quite some time now
chrome still best
wide chasm
For some reason Chrome started giving weird memory access related errors at some point for me. I ran memtest and my RAM has no issues. So, am using Firefox now.
Still use chrome on other devices, though, but I cannot see myself ever using Edge.
ashen cliff
Could be memory access on the GPU?
twin lagoon
i don't hate edge tbh, ui is quite is nice
but if you're using an android device and are into the google ecosystem anyways, might aswell use chrome
ashen cliff
but if you're using an android device and are into the google ecosystem anyways,...
Tabs and groups.
wide chasm
Could be memory access on the GPU?
I don't have a separate GPU, but integrated graphics could be I guess? It's been a while since I switched, though, so could give Chrome a try again and see if it works again now.
twin lagoon
chrome has tab grouping
ashen cliff
Exactly the problem.
I need them gone.
They tried forcing the navigation bar to the bottom multiple times and failed.
Now they are forcing groups down there while still hogging up the top.
wide chasm
And I think Edge as a program is fine, I just hate how Microsoft forcibly pinned it to the taskbar, set it as default browser and opened an uncloseable popup to configure Edge after an automatic Windows update. On both Windows 10 and 7.
Like, you aren't supporting Windows 7, but are willing to release an update for it to shove your browser down my throat, please fuck off.
golden gust
I mean, on one side, supported browser is better than one which ain't, but, like, yea
Microsoft can suck a toe
twin lagoon
edge is supposed to be able to replace internet explorer completely with it's IE support mode
golden gust
I've also seen that switching from edge when they do that is a 5 minute thing
twin lagoon
so i can kinda get the pushing an update to windows 7 for it
ashen cliff
edge is supposed to be able to replace internet explorer completely with it's IE...
Yeah, but not supporting IE 6 emulation yet...
And I need that.
golden gust
Yea, I mean, big thing for me is the whole having a supported browser vs just leaving 7 with whatever aged IE version it has
golden gust
their BS with changing the defaults however, is complete utter ass cancer
ashen cliff
I have, but it's hard to travel with VMs.
red timber
literally have windows xp VM around to deal with this Dell bullshit management
golden gust
hard to travel
ashen cliff
So did I, but then I just switched to compat mode.
golden gust
ashen cliff
Working as it should.
twin lagoon
i should get a VM for this ass fortiguard vpn client
installs an entire fucking antivirus suite
i just want a vpn and not something that starts up on startup and does an antivirus scan every now and then
golden gust
work VPN or?
twin lagoon
datacenter VPN for IPMI
golden gust
ah, ouch
ashen cliff
IE 5 my beloved: https://posili.me/i/xr5XEuMk-2022-05-23_00-40-57.png
warm anchor
Looks good
worthy geode
nice system name
molten egret
why are things in the com.destroystokyo package instead of the io.papermc package?
vague lagoon
because that was used before
abstract aspen
doesn't include an image format that's been supported in chrome for quite some t...
Which format 👀
twin lagoon
avif
abstract aspen
Is it used commonly? I work in web dev and haven't come across that yet
twin lagoon
fairly new format so not too surprised it's not in every browser yet
but it being in chrome for the past 2 years and not in edge made it weird
abstract aspen
Especially weird now that edge is based on chromium
twin lagoon
yes
abstract aspen
Just interested cause I usually use edge myself
I find it has better stability with my excessive tab usage i usually have 200+ tabs
magic river
Honestly if you have something that requires IE6 I feel like you should sue whoever provided it at this point 😛
Or stop using ancient tech
floral mesa
gotta love seeing how some old as hell ibm mainframes are still being used to this day
hell, I think IBM would still offer support for them
magic river
If you're willing to pay enough money I think Microsoft will still offer support for XP too
floral mesa
pretty much, throw enough money at the problem for it to go away
little frost
avif
avif was such a pain like a year ago when it barely existed and like 2 things supported it yet i somehow got avif images and could view them in chrome but couldn't convert them in any way and had to like, apply a patch to imagemagick or something dumb i can't remember
magic river
I don't really see the point of AVIF and HEIF
Netflix uses AVIF for thumbnails which I guess makes sense over JPEG, not sure if it would over JPEG XL
little frost
like, from what i saw avif isn't even that great because isn't it video compression applied to images?
vestal jasper
Z80s are still being used today as well
lilac moon
i just use webp and webm/vp9
it has good decoding support (hardware too) and also wide image support for anything modern, plus it's really small
true canyon
I don't really see the point of AVIF and HEIF
something something hdr?
worthy geode
its called anti-xray and should be in paper.yml
crimson scarab
i cant find it
crimson scarab
its called ``anti-xray`` and should be in paper.yml
im in minehut and i pressed on paper.yml and i cant find anti-xray
vague lagoon
what mc version
crimson scarab
1.18.2
crystal lilyBOT
Please send large files/logs to a pastebin
crimson scarab
ok
vague lagoon
send the link here
crimson scarab
wet storm
How does this even work? https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/blob/master/LICENSE.md (a part about authors and MIT license) Like, paper is a mix of MIT and GPL licensed patches?
normal cradle
How long would it take to rewrite paper
spare venture
the thought is that MIT is compatible with GPL license
well compatible in the sense that MIT code can be added to a GPL project, but the reverse cannot be done
wet storm
I have an independent API licensed under MPL 2.0, I wanna make its implementation as a paper fork, mpl 2.0 compatible both with GPL and MIT, should I worry about something? Because I basically license patches to paper, not an API or impl classes...
foggy veldt
is multimc still the shizz or is there a better one yet
worthy geode
I heard people saying PolyMC is better, its a fork of MultiMC
vernal moth
doesn't include an image format that's been supported in chrome for quite some t...
Huh, which one?
Chrome is literally the only browser that supports it, WebKit does but safari doesn't use it, Firefox has it disabled by default
Edge is just missing the decoder, chromium has the code but misses the decoder, only chrome ships a decoder, strange
merry talon
https://posili.me/i/45FcbVVG-2022-05-23_00-41-34.png
i hate the word 'administratively'
just try saying that in an actual sentence
youll embarass yourself at breakneck speed
ashen cliff
i hate the word 'administratively'
We just say: Disabled.
merry talon
https://twitter.com/MiaRSato/status/1528501604898447361?t=YNJv2xDbV9aSAQi4jKzvoA...
ah yes the two genders, men and ☐☐men
warm anchor
I mean its probably 99% guy there anyway. Just like any video game tournament
This reminds me of Dota tournament where between games long lines at male bathroom and literally no one at females. 
like a reverse of typical concerts
void void
probably people not knowing issues exist?
happens every now and then
oh hey, this finally has an icon
vernal moth
but like, its actually work to do that
warm anchor
Looks like a translated message too
cosmic raft
no
zealous snow
i need some help, can anyone give a hand
crystal lilyBOT
zealous snow
aight so how can i make a server compatible so all editions of mc can play, console, java, windows, bedrock etc
void void
install geyser
upbeat falconBOT
void void
that happens quite often
maybe account deletion?
worn ember
This reminds me of Dota tournament where between games long lines at male bathro...
Dota too big brain for them
They probably play LoL
worn ember
Lmao
Did you watch the last major?
There was almost no one there haha
At least at the opening ceremony
warm anchor
I think 4 major was a mistake
I still think it is
That’s too many games… good for professional I guess but the spectator will get burnout and lost interest
warm anchor
worn ember
Ceeeeeeeeeeeb
Bruh I wasn't even done porting rtp sponge to API 8 and they already released 9 
ashen cliff
Microsoft pls, I don't want to log in and give you my phone number AGAIN, just to read a god damn forum post.
void void
Rule 4
rose knot
bet
stray oyster
vocal lynx
Does tnt dupers work on paper 1.18.2?
crystal lilyBOT
Having problems with TNT Duping, Bedrock Breaking or Sand Duping Vanilla Exploits? See: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/3854 for information.
wicked geode
Does anyone have a cool idea for a minigame or something similar. (Sorry if this topic is not allowed on here but it's not said to be disallowed in the rules)
crisp quiver
hey guys, is there anyone here that knows really well pc parts?
i'm having a doubt with displayport, I want to buy this monitor benq mobiuz ex2510 but it's saying display port 1.2
I want to buy a radeon RX6600 XT but it's saying displayport 1.4
But all the 144hz monitor I looked at are displayport 1.2
smoky cloud
Pretty sure DP is backwards compatible
crisp quiver
thank you guys!
twin lagoon
oooo
limber knotBOT
lmao
mossy vessel
That looks a lot like Fleet
limber knotBOT
I hope that will be optional otherwise I will never update past that lol
I wonder why https://i.moep.tv/gqpOlbtO.png
mossy vessel
Had the chance to mess around with Fleet before, interesting experience when you try to escape from VS's look
minor brook
Is there way to spread the load across multiple servers(different systems) on same network?
limber knotBOT
depends on the load and how much money/time you want to invest