general

[warm anchor]

Ok xp is overkill but yeah

[wet storm]

I am linux user 🧠

[warm anchor]

Just have second box running Linux natively

[sturdy ferry]

Can anyone help with setup for nether xray, I can't set it up

[crystal lily]

https://docs.papermc.io/paper/anti-xray

[sturdy ferry]

Now Xray doesn't even work for overworld its completely broken now lol

[warm anchor]

Please read the page carefully

[foggy veldt]

The only issue I have with windows 11 is the context menu

[magic river]

There is some registry flag to bring back the old one

But also apparently an API to add stuff to the new one?

So I guess they just wanted a reset on the build up of all the useless stuff in there

There is a 7zip fork that adds things to the new menu

[foggy veldt]

Oh that’s what I meant, I thought there wasn’t an api

I really just need vscode, gnupg, and 7zip on the context menu and I’ll like it

[magic river]

https://github.com/M2Team/NanaZip

As a bonus it also merges the zstd fork

[foggy veldt]

I’m surprised code isn’t using it though cause you know Microsoft

[magic river]

They would need to fork electron or wait for a PR to it to get approved

WinRAR also supports the new menu

Even though the rest of it looks straight out of Windows 95

[merry talon]

cool I'll replace the zstd one with that

[tired heath]

I just realized I ADHD hyperfocused on helping somebody for how many hours 🙄

[spare venture]

helping people is bad

[worthy geode]

Would be nice if it supported both menus tbh

[turbid oar]

depends what you are helping them with

[north prawn]

does anyone what i should do to to check for viruses or spyware on my computer? @me if you do

[warm anchor]

Use your windows defender + malwarebytes

[fickle frost]

Anyone know of any good lobby compass/lobby selector plugins for 1.18.2?

[turbid oar]

Future idea to put on your computer is norton

helps 99% of the time

because nothing is 100%

[warm anchor]

havent use any AV for probably a decade after windows defender becomes a thing

[turbid oar]

I feel dumb for saying this but I never heard or know how to use windows defender.

[warm anchor]

that's the whole selling point

you dont. It just works

[turbid oar]

oh 0_o

[warm anchor]

(given you aint running shit forcefully)

[proud lance]

you control it from the settings > security in 10 and 11

[turbid oar]

lately I been trying to install windows 11 but my storage it way to full

[obsidian moon]

running poop* keep it pg

[proud lance]

but yeah its on by default

[warm anchor]

I believe it warns you on any thing that's executable and has potential to modify your OS

(even jar file)

[turbid oar]

wdym?

[worthy geode]

you can also just search for it, like for everything. I really like the search, its so fast to open programs just using the search

[turbid oar]

The search is interesting but I don't care for it

[obsidian moon]

eternity said running shi forcefully, I changed it to running poop

yesyes

[worthy geode]

its just that pressing the windows key, entering like the first two characters and enter is way faster. I don't even have any desktop icons anymore

[warm anchor]

you can curse, we are all adult here... unless....

[turbid oar]

I bet windows 11 is wonderful 🥺

wish*

I have it atm

[worthy geode]

ehh. it is as soon as you disable the new right click menu

[turbid oar]

This thing?

[worthy geode]

and provided it does not self-delete the bootmanager when installing like it did on my laptop

[turbid oar]

oh wait nvm

[worthy geode]

that must be the most useless screenshot I have seen all day, and that includes the average #paper-help screenshot

[turbid oar]

holy shit lmfao

[warm anchor]

let me help you out @worthy geode

[obsidian moon]

No one is under 13... so close your report window

[turbid oar]

people under 13 =

in my mind

[unkempt drift]

What is that a screenshot of?

[warm anchor]

take a guess

[unkempt drift]

Ur mom

[warm anchor]

[turbid oar]

damnnn

[worthy geode]

my guess would be the lower border of the Windows 11 right click menu

[turbid oar]

bringing the "your mom" jokes back are we

[warm anchor]

I'd post your mum too but discord only allow file size of up to 100mb @turbid oar

[turbid oar]

I am just laughing today lol

I only know old "your mom jokes"

[warm anchor]

[turbid oar]

but that is a good one

[unkempt drift]

ban @warm anchor

Oh forgot the !

😈😈

[warm anchor]

[magic river]

https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/lunar/2022-may-16

How can umbra when flat?

Flat earth youtube has apparently been trying to preempt this eclipse and explain why it's either fake or doesn't work how "they" say it does

[unkempt drift]

Flat earth is great.

I really should go to one of their conventions once in my life.

My first year of college, my roommates and I put up flat earth propaganda all over the room and on the windows facing out. Was great

So TRUE

[spare venture]

📌

[little frost]

how come i can't flap my arms and start flying? checkmate

[tired heath]

Didn't one of these flat earth groups once collected thousands of dollars to build or buy there own laser laser gyroscope, after using it found out that in fact there really was a minute variation caused by Earth's rotation and than tried to hide the results from other group members while getting recorded for TV docu 😄

A yeah there it is https://www.triplem.com.au/story/flat-earthers-spend-20-000-trying-to-prove-earth-is-flat-accidentally-prove-it-s-round-129953

[unkempt drift]

fake news here from TEAM

can't believe you're are amplifying glober viewpoints here

[tired heath]

🙂 didn't know "Glober" but I like it

[unkempt drift]

idk if its a thing, but I think its a good name for it 😆

[tired heath]

it really is 😄

[proud lance]

If the earth wasn't flat then why is my minecraft world surface always 64?

checkmate globers

[unkempt drift]

for sure!

[worthy geode]

I'm still convinced that the earth is torus-shaped

[trim oracle]

tbh Earth is a donut, because torus' are holo & Earth is not hollow, because the donut hole is where the ocean goes

Earth is one big floatie

sitting amongst the vast ocean

[unkempt drift]

beautiful

[magic river]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3dd5AZ1gNeYA2gqI7UHK02JBZrnxtr-H

15*24 = 360, flat earth confirmed

I mostly use print/console statements but if it's annoying to get things set up to trigger the bug I'll use the debugger

[unkempt drift]

debugger all the way

its so simple nowadays. idk if you are talking specifically in a "paper" situation, but using the debugger on the server or a plugin is just too easy to pass up.

[merry talon]

I've yet to see any evidence of real flat earthers until vsauce made that video toying with that idea

like someone saw it and decided to dedicate their entire life to creating a cult around it

[wide chasm]

For plugin dev. I use print debugging, but mainly because my IDE and Minecraft instance are on different devices. It should be possible to do debugging between those, but honestly, I'm too lazy to look up how to do it and set it up.

[vernal moth]

remote debugging is really easy ^^

opened spigot forums

https://i.imgur.com/QGVyuh2.png

yeah am not missing out

[golden gust]

Yea, remote debugging is pretty darned easy, just need a singular flag on the JVM to expose the debug port on the network, and IJ supports SSH forwarding natively for remote debugging iirc

tunneling, I mean, I think

Depends on what I'm debuging, really, some areas are just too hot to step through with a debugger, at least at first; sometimes, just printing stuff is the best you can do as an area is too hot, sometimes, you can use that info to figure out where to go deeper, IJ has conditional breakpoints, they do suck perf wise as the JVM seemingly has 0 support for that, and so the IDE just auto continues which, ofc, slow as it's gotta validate the condition and then go brr, but, I mean, use the tools at your disposal

[wide chasm]

Can I also do remote debugging easily when the devices are on a different network, though?

I've done remote debugging before, but that was on the same network.

[vernal moth]

intellij allow you to open an ssh tunnel

so you need ssh at least

or direct access

[vital osprey]

does anyone know if the soyoustart servers on ovhcloud

their perm mitigation

if its actually perm mitigation

[vagrant marlin]

sure aint

getting worse and worse daily

[twin lagoon]

it's the same network, same mitigation

[vital osprey]

so they changed it?

before soyoustart didnt have perm mitigation

like a year back

they had the auto mitigation thing

if attack then it goes into perm mitigation for 24h

then reverts

but the lagspikes were annoying while it was switching

[twin lagoon]

can't imagine there's a difference now since soyoustart / kimsufi is all under ovh eco now

[vital osprey]

can anyone confirm since i want to stop using tcpshield

shits expensive

[vagrant marlin]

i dont know what about outdated power sucking cpus is eco

unless they changed them up

[vital osprey]

reusing

[pastel bluff]

Its not

Since you can't configure the firewall on sys interface you can't enable the user permanent mitigation

[warm anchor]

If tcpshield is expensive, chance of you able to afford other legit service is unlikely

[vital osprey]

you can

[pastel bluff]

Hmm no

[vital osprey]

its not on sys interfacr

[pastel bluff]

How so

[pastel bluff]

ovh api ?

[vital osprey]

they switched it to ovh cloud

[pastel bluff]

Ah then maybe you can

[vital osprey]

my dedi is under ovh cloud

[warm anchor]

Because tcpshield is already dirt cheap lol

[vital osprey]

and i enabled perm mitigation

[pastel bluff]

100$ for 80 players sorry but no

[vital osprey]

tcpshield is not cheap

[pastel bluff]

100$ for geyser sorry but no

[vital osprey]

and why use tcpshield if ovh has perm mitigation

[pastel bluff]

Reverse proxies provide bigger bandwidth tunnel + layer 7 filtering

Well if its a good one

[warm anchor]

You really have no idea what stuff cost but good luck

[pastel bluff]

I do

[warm anchor]

[pastel bluff]

I exactly know how much it cost and thats why people are switching from tcpshield

Well at least the one that don't want to pay 100$ for their playerbase

[pastel bluff]

If your server make over 700 per month then yeah tcpshield is cheap

[vital osprey]

i pay 100 a month for 60 players

[pastel bluff]

To who

[vital osprey]

tcpshield

[pastel bluff]

Bruh

[twin lagoon]

easily

if you have 80 players you should be able to comfortably spend $100

[pastel bluff]

Depend server type

[twin lagoon]

survival

[pastel bluff]

Yeah maybe

[vital osprey]

yeah i’m a ffa server

[pastel bluff]

But still you could invest the money somewhere else

[vital osprey]

theres not much to sell on there

[pastel bluff]

^

[twin lagoon]

tcpshield isn't expensive for the people that need it and there are always alternatives

[warm anchor]

What’s ffa server?

[twin lagoon]

and also, if you pay $100/mo for tcpshield and you're using SYS, you're doing something wrong

[pastel bluff]

Better go hetzner then

Or stay there for the ping

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[twin lagoon]

or just get a normal ovh game server and go without tcpshield

[warm anchor]

Michael I will pay you $300 a month 😊

[twin lagoon]

another alternative is to just get cloudflare spectrum for like $10/mo through mcph's offer

[pastel bluff]

Yeah but no layer 7 filtering then

[twin lagoon]

you get what you pay for

[warm anchor]

[red timber]

what kind of a layer 7 filtering do you need

pay with your time and write your own fast thing

[spiral robin]

🙂

[vital osprey]

thats what i’m saying

the current server i have

is on ovhcloud’s interfave

and i can enable perm mitigation

but i’m unsure whether it’s the same mitigation as a normal ovh server

considering soyoustart servers never had perm mitigation

https://eco.ovhcloud.com/nl/?#filterType=range_element&filterValue=so you start

[golden gust]

OVH monitors the connection

if stuff starts going skewy, they move traffic through their VAC system as opposed to direct

pros are is that you'll get a better network experience if you're not going through their heavy filtering infra

downfall is, ofc, is that enabling mitigation in flight is

1. not super reliable, shit can still hit you and not hit the threshold for mitigation to be enabled
2. mitigation enabling can impact/kill existing connections, thus, perm mitigation alleviate that at the cost of always going through filtering

[golden gust]

That's the difference between a professional and a beginner

a beginners know what they know

a prof knows that they know fuck all

[spare venture]

tcpshield isn’t really necessary until you’re consistently getting attacked by stuff that ovh can’t stop, even with perm mitigation

but it’s free for what, 1tb/mo? can’t hurt

plus if you don’t start with it, you’ll have to change your ip when you go to tcpshield otherwise they’ll just keep hitting you

[obsidian moon]

frick all*

[potent wedge]

party mode moment

[lavish compass]

@twin lagoon I need Michael L8 protection.

[vernal moth]

That's how I close incidents at work

Layer 8 issue, resolved

[void void]

Hii, how can i open ver all ver 1.18.x ?

[warm anchor]

scroll down on download page.

[spare venture]

party mode huh

[true canyon]

Yeah they tried a barty mode first but it wasn't as fun.

[spare venture]

that makes sense

[vernal moth]

I saw the video about it any didn't understand the point

Guess that's what it feels like being old

[spare venture]

mini you're younger than me

[warm anchor]

Mini is 20 outside and 40 inside

[lavish compass]

@warm anchor

[warm anchor]

@lavish compass

[warm anchor]

[lavish compass]

how dare you, German weeb

kenny should get a 3d scan of himself, and send it here

[mental meadow]

[viral hornet]

LIFE COULD BE DREAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[turbid oar]

new discord futures 👀

[vernal moth]

Lol I wish my body was still 20

[spare venture]

mini you're like 24

[vernal moth]

25!

[warm anchor]

That’s physical age

[vestal jasper]

Hey I'm in my 20s with the body of a 40 year old

[warm anchor]

His body part is like 40

Liver is probably close to 50 now for all the drinking

[vestal jasper]

Constant back pain and old man noises when I move

[vernal moth]

12 years of mc made me age at double speed

[warm anchor]

[turbid oar]

damn I am 20 so lol I still have long way to go. 5 months till I can drink though 🎉

[spare venture]

legally

[turbid oar]

yes

0_o

[warm anchor]

Purchasing

[vernal moth]

Well, that's your fault, back pain means not enough working out and stuff

[spare venture]

most people dont wait until 21

[turbid oar]

ik but I will :P

[spare venture]

why

[cobalt cave]

does this server have a guilded?

[vernal moth]

Meanwhile I started drinking with 14, lmao

[vestal jasper]

In some US states you can legally drink before you're 21, if you're home and your parents supervise you.

[turbid oar]

wow

[spare venture]

its an arbitrary date lobbied by women against drunk driving

[warm anchor]

No there is no bootleg discord of papermc

[spare venture]

has almost nothing to do with anything else

[cobalt cave]

oh i own the link for papermc guilded now

[turbid oar]

because I feel more comfortable waiting till then :(

[cobalt cave]

;)

[vernal moth]

Here it's beer and wine with 16

[vestal jasper]

Guilded?

[warm anchor]

Ok but

[cobalt cave]

yeah its like a rip off discord

[warm anchor]

It’s just bootleg discord

[vestal jasper]

Ok but why

[turbid oar]

ouch

[cobalt cave]

this basically

[warm anchor]

Cringe

[spare venture]

its basically what discord uses as a template for adding content

guilded has had a calendar, forums, events, etc. for a long time

[vestal jasper]

Sooooo slack?

[vernal moth]

Nobody missed them in discord

[spare venture]

sure vic

missed what in discord

[vernal moth]

I don't need forums in discord

[spare venture]

ok

[vernal moth]

It's useless

[spare venture]

i do

does that mean we can't have it

[vernal moth]

It's not indexed by google

[warm anchor]

PaperMc onlyfan tier when Mjni

[cobalt cave]

idk if i can send the thing here because it would be advertising?

[warm anchor]

No

[vernal moth]

No you can't

[warm anchor]

You are also trying to make your guild look official which is a no no In almost everywhere you go

[cobalt cave]

im not going to

[warm anchor]

Nice screenshot there

[vernal moth]

Well, use a different name then

[vestal jasper]

There's also the whole drawing people away from here to a place you control

[cobalt cave]

these are the default things they give when you start a server

[vestal jasper]

Which are all in discord

[cobalt cave]

yes ik

they copied discord

[vestal jasper]

Neat

[warm anchor]

This also default?

[cobalt cave]

no i made it lol

im probably gonna delete it because i dont need it

[spare venture]

people are very hesitant on leaving minecraft/discord platform, it is amazing that discord is so ubiquitous

[warm anchor]

Ok so what’s the meaning of this?

[cobalt cave]

i wanted to see if someone else took the papermc name

[warm anchor]

Not all platform last forever anyway

[vestal jasper]

I just don't like having multiple communication platforms. And everyone I know is on discord and actively uses it.

[warm anchor]

It’s just a matter of which one is most convenient

[vestal jasper]

And discord isn't Skype, so that's a huge bonus.

[warm anchor]

And the cons are still sufferable

[spare venture]

ill switch to whatever platform becomes the dominant one afterwards

having 1000 different forums hasn't been viable for a long time, no one wants to have to register and learn a minecraft forum

[warm anchor]

I went through the mumble and Ventrio then now discord (skipped teamspeak)

[spare venture]

everyone knows discord

[vernal moth]

Forums are unbeatable tho in terms of collecting knowledge

[vestal jasper]

Yeah if something else becomes dominant I'll use it, but until then I don't plan on helping something become dominant.

[vernal moth]

Since they are indexed by google

[warm anchor]

Yeah mini that’s the worse thing about discord

[cobalt cave]

plus you cant even make proper bots on guilded 💀

[vernal moth]

If content isn't indexed by google, it basically doesn't exist

[warm anchor]

All the history here will be lost when discord is gone

[spare venture]

right mini, which is why it's fine to have forums on discord AND on a website. there doesn't have to be one or the other... some people want one, some people want the other

[vestal jasper]

Mini you read the writeup about that recently didn't you

[vernal moth]

No

[vestal jasper]

You're quite interested in that

Huh

[vernal moth]

Not sure I have to either

It's not that hard to understand, lol

[spare venture]

people have different needs/wants, i dont give a shit if my minecraft server forums are indexed by google, but i can understand why a developer forums would care

[fleet pelican]

please someone mention me

[vernal moth]

Google search console for paper is quite interesting

[vestal jasper]

Makes sense to me in this context. You don't need all forums to be indexed.

[vernal moth]

So many queries people search for

[warm anchor]

Lol

[vestal jasper]

But also, the forum feature isn't in discord ATM anyway, who's to say they won't have a solution for indexing by then.

[vernal moth]

Hahahahahah

[golden gust]

Thing is that for stuff like a block game server or whatever, forums really only serve a purpose for long standing info and such

[spare venture]

i am excited for the forum feature because we use threads heavily on mine, it would be nice to have a better version of threads

[golden gust]

Theres still a good bunch of servers which use them for applications, etc

[spare venture]

untrue

speaking as someone who currently runs a server and that does not apply to me at all

[golden gust]

I mean, literally everybody I know who runs a server who has a forum generally has to break their back tryna get people to use the forums in a useful manner

[vestal jasper]

If you're trying to focus on using discord, I imagine there's a better format for applications than forums.

[golden gust]

Do you have a forum?

[spare venture]

no because i do everything on discord

[golden gust]

....

So

You literally

MISSED

[vestal jasper]

Such as a bot and threads

[golden gust]

my point.

[spare venture]

i would use forums if discord had them in their ecosystem

[turbid oar]

discord forums?

[golden gust]

People stopped caring about forums for the most part years ago

[spare venture]

the only reason i do not use them is because my players do not check my website daily nor do they want to register on yet another website

[golden gust]

they just want a place where they can chat live, organised however

[spare venture]

but people check my discord daily

[golden gust]

discord "forums" would really just be pulled off live chat, not a forum forum

[spare venture]

so if i had forums built in, they'd be checking my forums daily

[golden gust]

Which is my entire damned point

[warm anchor]

Your discord “forum” which is just discord

[golden gust]

a discord forum would just be a discord chat

[vernal moth]

People on discord don't understand async communication

[golden gust]

akin to literally any other channel

[spare venture]

that's not how guilded does it

[golden gust]

just organised, ^

[vernal moth]

That's why IRC was so good, you could have async conversations

[golden gust]

forums and discord are two entirely different beasts

on discord, it doesn't matter how they package it, it's still discord

[vernal moth]

Because people on IRC are generally much more sane

[golden gust]

it's still a "channel" of some form with different lifecylcing/seperation, etc

[worthy geode]

Guilded won't be successful because there is already discord. as long as messengers aren't interoperable, the dominant platform will always stay dominant. just like with whatsapp.

[turbid oar]

I remember having to develop a forums theme it was terrible 💀

[spare venture]

you're missing the point, implementing a way to have longer term organized conversations is what the goal is. getting stuck on semantics, threads are an attempt at this but it looks like discord is going further

[warm anchor]

Thankfully it’s pretty good now most software handles it and have style premade

[vernal moth]

Our point is that it will not work

[warm anchor]

Thread is a horrid attempt lol

[golden gust]

Once again, it literally doesn't matter how discord wants to package it, it's still a live chat

[vernal moth]

Because it's still the same people

[spare venture]

threads work already

[turbid oar]

I barely use threads

[spare venture]

just because you haven't seen them work nor have tried does not mean they do not work

[warm anchor]

I don’t think you can search for text in thread yet?

[golden gust]

what's the difference between a discord forum and a thread?

[warm anchor]

Or that’s finally added

[turbid oar]

nope

[wet storm]

Am I the only person who actively searches development discord servers by keywords with this to find some specific info?

[vernal moth]

Yes

[warm anchor]

It was the biggest no no to me if I want to host an event and have a record. It will be lost and not searchable inside thread.

[wide chasm]

I never use search on Discord to find answers to questions.

[vestal jasper]

There isn't a single other user anywhere that's done that. Just you.

[turbid oar]

I always forget the search input in discord 😞

[warm anchor]

Lol

I search for stuff I don’t know first before I ask questions

[golden gust]

I mean, discords search is bloody useless, tbqh

[turbid oar]

Your so smart

[wet storm]

I use it every day and find really interesting conversations in paper mc, fabric mc, forge

[warm anchor]

You get rate limited yeah cat

[glass crag]

i search discords for answers too

[warm anchor]

If you search a keyword “cat” and flip page manually like 30 or so times it will time you out

Lol

[glass crag]

ive had decent success

[worthy geode]

and forums channel will make this easier, I don't see the problem tbh

[wide chasm]

I only use it to find a message that I know exists, but it's been some time since it was posted.

[golden gust]

That's one of the joys of a proper forum software is that you can get it indexed by a sane search system

[spare venture]

i dont see why you would be against having an organized topic-based longer-term chat function in discord in addition to live chat channels lol

it's almost like you can choose to just not use it

[golden gust]

It's literally just chat channels with extra oganisation is literally what I'm saying

[warm anchor]

Which is the point cat was trying to make…

[turbid oar]

Actually I take that emoji back. It's useful whenever your trying to find a download link or picture in someones DMs so you don't have to look back at a lot of messages.

[golden gust]

they can bake on whatever the heck terminology that want, it's still an organised live chat

[spare venture]

what exactly do you define a forum as

[vestal jasper]

Can't you recreate the functionality with just threads and bots?

[worthy geode]

because forums are a 2012 concept. people expect live chat nowadays

[golden gust]

I mean, I said traditional forum

[spare venture]

you can, but better UI would be ideal vic

[glass crag]

yeah svelte discord does that

[golden gust]

i.e. an actual forum software, where you type a message, it shows on a page and then you walk away

[worthy geode]

But I can also type a message and walk away here?

[golden gust]

Not a live chat where people are sitting around waiting to converse back and forth syncronously

[vestal jasper]

Side point: I don't see them implementing features that are already possible with existing features tbh

[spare venture]

last i checked messages in discord are chronological, persistent, and are there when you walk back

[golden gust]

sigh

Yes.

[spare venture]

its mostly just UI changes that would make the experience better

[true canyon]

Except a lot of threads that seem to just disappear in their updated UI for them...

[golden gust]

by forum, I mean the well eaccepted, distinguised term in the wider internet culture of a forum

like, that provided by proper forum software

xenforo, phpbb, etc, etc

[worthy geode]

this looks like pretty much the same thing to me

[golden gust]

discord can add whatever the heck of a terminology they want, discord is not a message board

[worthy geode]

besides search engine indexing, I don't really see a big difference between discords forum channel and the paper forums

[vernal moth]

Because there is way more important stuff they should put development work into

[golden gust]

discord can add whatever mechanisms they want to organised tempural conversations, it's not a message board

[spare venture]

yeah...

only differences i see are UI differences and i believe you have to hit refresh to see people's new messages

[golden gust]

cool, but, it's still an organised internet chat, and thus, many people, and I, will not declare it the exact same as a traditional forum just because discord wants to yank the terminology

[spare venture]

a forum is an organized internet chat

[golden gust]

maybe in a few years down the line or whatever when they've successfully hijacked the terminology, but, they haven't yet, and thus, you can't expect that people are gonna converse using your redefined meaning of words

It's not a "chat"

[turbid oar]

Hm I guess I won't use forums for my server then

saves me time too

[golden gust]

chat generally implies that it's much more live vs a forum

i.e. somebody sends a message and it shows without refreshing the page, etc

[red timber]

no that's instant messaging

[spare venture]

why would that be a benefit, not seeing replies instantly? what do you gain from that?

[vestal jasper]

Customer service live chat wants to know your location

[worthy geode]

because traditional forums are dead.

just look at basically every minecraft forum

[golden gust]

at least in my experience chat has generally been more referred to as the "live" aspect, i.e. we're on a chat right now

Once again, our definition of forums is traditional forum software

[worthy geode]

yes, and that is dead

[golden gust]

what discord wants to refer to as a forum, is not traditionally defined as a forum

you might not care to respect that, I do

[wet storm]

imagine having a forum on your twitch stream instead of a chat 💀

[golden gust]

but, if we can't even agree on basic terminology, this is a wasted convo

[true canyon]

Might decrease spam! 😂

[spare venture]

i am just trying to see what you would don't like about having organized topic based discussion on discord vs. on an external website

[worthy geode]

then call it forums2 or whatever. the important point is that it adds useful features from traditional forums to discord, making traditional forums even more obsolete while improving discord at the same time

[spare venture]

because it just seems more like you don't like that the word forums is being used, and google indexing

[golden gust]

I literally never said I don't like it

[quiet mesa]

Like when twitch has multiple channels or the twitch chat app like discord? XD

[spare venture]

ok

[golden gust]

I said that I don't think that discord gets to redefine what a forum is, yet

as pretty much everybody whose been talking, forum still refers to the old traditional website based stuff

[worthy geode]

and why isn't it a forum? messages are organized in threads, often longer than a single line and archived

[golden gust]

organise "threads" on a live chat software does not automatically make it a forum

because an internet forum is generally on the actual internet and not in a live chat system

[worthy geode]

there are currently not subforums, but thats all I see thats missing from it being a traditional forum

[spare venture]

yeah i'm really not seeing what the difference between an organized live chat is vs. a "traditional forum" other than it not instantly refreshing and google indexing

[golden gust]

Because, as I said, the majority of people still consider forums to be actually hosted by forum software

[worthy geode]

fine, then discord forums are more like reddit

[golden gust]

not just adding a magical "catagory" inside of of a live chat client

you might not think that it matters as much, but in conversation, if you say forum, people are gonna thing phpbb, xenforo

it literally doesn't matter if at the end of the day your interaction with them is the same

words matter

[spare venture]

ok well moving past this i am full on ready for discord to further refine their organized topic based live chat system that can replicate my needs that forums used to fulfil

[wide chasm]

lol

[spare venture]

organized topic based live chat system
what word would you say I can use for this so I don't have to type that every time? just continue using threads?

[wide chasm]

I'd say "forum" is a pretty apt word for it.

[spare venture]

well we just discussed and landed on forum is not

[golden gust]

I mean, idk, discord is content on adopting the word forum, but, I mean, the thing is is that in normal discussion, until they become a real thing, 99% of people using the word forum is gonna be referring to crud like phpbb, etc

[spare venture]

is there a general word to describe it other than "forums" or "threads" which have been marked by very specific things?

[golden gust]

I think calling discords thing a forum is basically just the joys of traditional terms being used because "its close enough"

even if to the mass public they're not even gonna consider discord relevant in the convo of a forum

if somebody says that they're talking on a forum, you're probably not talking about discord

[wet storm]

paper is spigot basically

[quiet mesa]

Purple Paper Spigot?

[golden gust]

Like, words matter; when the majority of people say forum, they mean xenfor, etc; You can't all act flustered because somebody is talking about forums and referring to a specific set of software and you wanna define it in another manner

[worthy geode]

tbh most people under 18 don't know xenforo or mybb

[golden gust]

which is why I kept tryna clarify what I meant about

No, it's not

[quiet mesa]

Or PHPBB

[golden gust]

You just don't understand what the word means

and yea, I get it's kinda harder to convey if you've not been around that experience

for older gens, forum means a specific isle of software with a generally set experience in regards to how convos work, etc

[worthy geode]

you create threads in a category, maybe tag them, and other people can reply to those threads. Which is exactly what discord does?

[golden gust]

You're missing the sementical point.

[wide chasm]

The entire conversation is about Discord adding a "forums", how would that ever imply something like xenforo or phpbb. It's Discord, of course it's not xenforo or phpbb.

[worthy geode]

but people who expect a "forum" to work a certain will find exactly that on discord

[golden gust]

"how it works" is literally irrelevant to the discussion

I mean, the entire convo started earlier than that

I said that forums where generally falling out of favour, referring to the traditional meaning of forums

[wide chasm]

Yes and it's been on Discord for, the last half an hour now.

[golden gust]

I mean, I was literally tryna say that my meaning of forums was not the new fangled thing

[wide chasm]

Context matters, if someone is talking about forums on Discord, they don't refer to xenforo or phpbb.

[golden gust]

I was tryna clarify that I wasn't talking about the new fangled thing before they started that convo

[vernal moth]

Wow action launcher gone evil

I literally already donated years ago but they lock Google search behind another paywall

[golden gust]

Okay, maybe both kinda spewed tother as I was tryna discuss what mini was saying

[spare venture]

is it really a donation at that point

they should've been upfront that your purchase only lasts 5 years, that's scummy

[wide chasm]

Spigot-style "donation", where a bunch of perks are accessible after donating.

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDRjqI-fBVI

[wet storm]

another weird video? not again. /s

[vernal moth]

Well, it's a new feature, I don't mind

Nor did I pay to get features in the past

[spare venture]

ah

[golden gust]

I mean, the thing says "tax evasion"

and, well, that's a "donation"

[true canyon]

Ah yes the "upset your oldest supporters" strategy! Classic.

[topaz mortar]

No striping :sad:

[foggy veldt]

All my homies use enjin

Are they still a thing

Oh god.

[true canyon]

oh no

[turbid oar]

😵‍💫

Screw nfts and crypto

It needs to be shut down in my opinion

[golden gust]

enjin

RIP the days of enjin being a competent service

was only about, what, 5 years ago, but, still

[spare venture]

i never was a fan of their base UI, but it was a nice free complete package

[golden gust]

there was a few decent themes

[turbid oar]

Is there anyone who can give me access to this channel? #adorable-pets I have pictures I want to show

[magic river]

Oh goody we're talking about crypto again

[golden gust]

I mean, it sucked, but, I mean, the alternative with phpbb, or xenforo

[magic river]

https://twitter.com/patdennis/status/1518637225789042688

Pat Dennis (@patdennis)

Sick of people calling everything in crypto a Ponzi scheme. Some crypto projects are pump and dump schemes, while others are pyramid schemes. Others are just standard issue fraud. Others are just middlemen skimming of the top. Stop glossing over the diversity in the industry.

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Twitter · Apr 25, 2022, 5:05 PM

[golden gust]

lol

[magic river]

Gotta post kitties here to prove it

[turbid oar]

ok

[vernal moth]

That tweet was so genius

[turbid oar]

My cat I love

[magic river]

That could be a fake picture, needs a shoe

[turbid oar]

needs a shoe?

[magic river]

I guess that is a pretty old one

Put Shoe on Head 😛

[turbid oar]

Here is the same one but different side

Want in the door

my phone pictures are shit

sometimes

[magic river]

Now you need to poke, I think it was @cosmic raft for that one?

[turbid oar]

the last one?

[magic river]

I mean to get access

[turbid oar]

@cosmic raft look at these cute cat pictures

[wet storm]

#dev-furry-stash access wen?

[turbid oar]

🤔

[wet storm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/838919055170863120/930882390551846912/dev.gif

[magic river]

I don't know how you get that one, you'd have to ask leaf

[obsidian moon]

@tired heath Thanks so much for your help yesterday with my lag issue. Even though it's a frustrating issue (that wasn't about PaperMC), you kept responding. Thanks for that

[tawdry hazel]

wtf

[ashen cliff]

The fabric server is down the block.

[wet storm]

dashloader 😩

[twin lagoon]

probably dashloader

[turbid oar]

Btw are 1.18.2 smp servers worth it?

[silver nexus]

Depends on what you mean by “worth it”.

I run one for some friends, and imo, if it provides some enjoyment or fun to you or others, than it has served it’s purpose.

[turbid oar]

What I mean by "worth it" is by getting more then 10 players

[worthy geode]

sure

[silver nexus]

Then that depends on how you run it.

[worthy geode]

you can get players with practically everything if your marketing is good enough

[turbid oar]

oh I know how to market my own server :)

[silver nexus]

Offer something original, something players haven’t really seen before. (Like a good community)

[worthy geode]

eh. you don't really need to be original

[silver nexus]

That’s fair

[turbid oar]

It's gonna have a few twists to it

[worthy geode]

thats what most people do, true vanilla survival isn't that common. just have more luck with the tiktok algorithm than most people and you will be fine

[turbid oar]

ah

Almost every name for a smp server is taken

Finally found a name 😌

[wet storm]

fuck, I made a really good library back in the days, I wanna refactor it to use its philosophy on a larger related project, but I forgot how to use it...

I forgor 💀

[spiral robin]

🙂

[magic river]

https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1525335287219376128

Noah Smith 🐇🇺🇦 (@Noahpinion)

I still can't believe Taiwan has a politician who is also a cosplayer, who campaigns in costume

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Twitter · May 14, 2022, 4:40 AM

[warm anchor]

She will get my vote

Asuka best girl

[worthy geode]

like the 10th time I hear this, maybe I should watch that anime some time

[magic river]

It's, uh, something

[warm anchor]

Just wake the newest movies all 4 of them @worthy geode

It’s easier to chew

[magic river]

Maybe watch the rebuild movies instead? I dunno, the show had its charm but it ran out of time and money and you could definitely tell

The movies are more fleshed out, polished, etc

It's not quite the same story but close enough

[warm anchor]

You also have the benefit of not needing to wait. See how long people waited (release date included) @worthy geode

[twin lagoon]

hot

@warm anchor

[warm anchor]

Those are the newest one with modern graphic and easier to understand story

[magic river]

I didn't even watch them until the last one came out

[warm anchor]

I watched all of them on release. This was literally a decade wait and closure

[magic river]

I waited on that shit for 14 years before I didn't want to get GRRM'ed

[worthy geode]

oh lol, did they just forget about it for 10 years?

[warm anchor]

It was being worked on

[magic river]

They did stuff like ME!ME!ME for 10 years 😄

[warm anchor]

It is super high quality @worthy geode

I watched first one in Japan and the middle one in theatre in US last one at home coz US version is still not officially out

[worthy geode]

that sounds good.
im the weird person that never watched anime until like 2 months ago, so im kinda trying to catch up lol

[warm anchor]

Eva is classic and if the new one interest you and you like it, you can then go back to watch the original. Never start with original

[magic river]

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4qn9ii

NSFW

[warm anchor]

Ok now amaranth getting banned

[magic river]

That was Studio Khara

[warm anchor]

That video is heavily on the border imo

Oh you didn’t post actual video

[turbid oar]

Nope. I exit out of the video before it even truly starts. I already know it's going to be bad.

[worthy geode]

why is that a thing. I mean, the animation quality is good, but why

[warm anchor]

Showcase

[magic river]

Anno decided to show off some instead of working on the final rebuild 😛

[wet storm]

Huh, the website is blocked in russia, thanks for putin or whatever it was for saving me

[warm anchor]

They do those piece from time to time

@worthy geode look at this anime that’s done 15 year ago https://youtu.be/V5V2qwYOiNo

[magic river]

TBH I didn't think the final rebuild was ever going to come out

[warm anchor]

They are basically show piece on how much they can do if budget is unlimited

[magic river]

The Animator Expo that video is from what basically a year of showing off amazing shorts once a week iirc

Made by different people

Some were music videos, some were short stories, etc

[worthy geode]

ah that makes more sense

I currently watch ErgoProxy because someone said it looks cool.
It really looks very cool, but the story is a bit of an tangled mess

[magic river]

That's basically everything Studio Trigger does, if you're in to that kind of thing

Did the Little Witch Academia game ever happen?

[warm anchor]

What’s next? Malfdador watching dragon maid?

Actually dont know but LWA was really good show

[worthy geode]

As office worker and programmer Kobayashi gets ready for work, she is greeted by a large dragon right outside her front door. The dragon immediately transforms into a human girl in a maid outfit

Ah yes

[magic river]

On a related note, is Witchbrook still happening?

[void void]

who even comes up with these

[magic river]

It's been 4 years

[worthy geode]

You saying you are not regularly greeted by large dragons? weird

[wet storm]

I stopped watching anime cuz coding block game is better

[golden gust]

Dragon maid is just... urgh...

I really want season 3, but, I semi dislike some aspects of the show...

[tropic flame]

what aspects?

[warm anchor]

@worthy geode

That is the character from dragon maid btw

https://tenor.com/view/kobayashi-kanna-loli-police-dragon-gif-12823520

Also this

[magic river]

Oh, Witchbrook was their game in Rust (with Lua scripting) but only one dev knew Rust and they left

[warm anchor]

1-2 is better for western

The 3rd one they have way too many neta in Japan culture

[worthy geode]

no dragon 😦

[magic river]

So they went and worked on Wargroove for a while then started over on Witchbrook using the engine from that game

[golden gust]

I have no idea what neta means

and, part of me is kinda worried about that

[magic river]

Also that engine is open source https://github.com/amzeratul/halley

[worthy geode]

any recommendations for like sci-fi/post-apocalyptic? preferably without maid-dragons

[tropic flame]

post-apocalyptic idk, but sci-fi? Serial Experiments Lain, definitely

[warm anchor]

https://nihongomaster.com/japanese/dictionary/word/904/neta-neta

So closest thing I can think of in US is insider jokes / puns (but not limit to words)

[magic river]

https://myanimelist.net/anime/8074/Highschool_of_the_Dead

[warm anchor]

Noooo

[magic river]

[tropic flame]

basically cultural context

[warm anchor]

Nooooooo don’t do this lol

Amaranth bad

[tropic flame]

just like how making jokes about bidets to American people wouldn't fly

[warm anchor]

Or like how we call @static badge furry and rat king

[worthy geode]

Shizuka Marikawa, their hot school nurse
yeaaaah, no

[tropic flame]

indeed

[magic river]

https://myanimelist.net/anime/24765/Gakkougurashi

Serious recommendation this time

[tropic flame]

i mean, amaranth gave you the obvious ecchi one

[warm anchor]

It’s a trap. Amaranth is setting up biggest trap lol

[magic river]

Don't read, like, anything about that show

[worthy geode]

that looks good, added to my list xD

[magic river]

Just watch it

[tropic flame]

lemme see what i even have of post apocalyptic

OH

Ergo Proxy

although i didn't finish it because the pacing wasn't my cup of tea

but you might like it

[worthy geode]

Already 90% watched 😄

[tropic flame]

oh nice

[worthy geode]

the style and animation is nice. but yeah, the pacing is weird and some episodes are just really confusing

[worthy geode]

this must be the weirdest school club ever

[warm anchor]

Watch Blame! @worthy geode

It’s a movie OVA

Tfw entire chat is trying to weebify malfdador faster

[worthy geode]

is blame the one with the endless city that is on netflix?

then I watched that already

ah yeah it is

[magic river]

As far as sci-fi I suppose I'll toss the obvious one out there https://myanimelist.net/anime/9253/Steins_Gate

[tropic flame]

have you watched 86? http://www.myanimelist.net/anime/41457

it's not post-apocalyptic but I'd argue an apocalypse happens in it

don't take my joke into account tho it's legitimately good

i said that because it's about a war

[turbid oar]

0_o interesting

[warm anchor]

Oh that anime about racist

It’s good though

[tropic flame]

yes

[worthy geode]

ah yes, japanese people using german names because they sound like fantasy

but sounds interesting

[tropic flame]

I mean you're not wrong, it talks about racism

forcing a people to fight a war for a country they're not even considered part of

[warm anchor]

Or only the white people get to live in comfort (white as in literally everything is white. They try really hard to make fun of it lol

[tropic flame]

do you think they "make fun of it"?

i didn't have that feeling

[worthy geode]

no, but that sounds interesting

[warm anchor]

|| https://myanimelist.net/anime/32615/Youjo_Senki/ || anime in Germany oh yeah @worthy geode

[tropic flame]

oh yes

[warm anchor]

Hahahahahaa

[tropic flame]

why did you put it in spoiler, Youjo Senki is legit good

[vestal jasper]

Idk what we're referring to but the first season of psycho pass is good

[tropic flame]

Tanya is... weird

but yeah

[magic river]

Why isn't this game a thing yet? 😦

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471703952124018689/852536523869913098/WB_Forest.gif

[warm anchor]

@vestal jasper nothing in particular just something a beginner weeb can watch (we are trying to put Malforder deeper in the hole

[vestal jasper]

Ah uhhh I only watch weird and psychological anime

Don't think I can help much here

[tropic flame]

i still gotta watch psycho pass

[warm anchor]

[worthy geode]

they are still busy animating that water

[warm anchor]

Psycho pass is good

[tropic flame]

I started with Lain, which is a psychological anime, but then i rapidly went to stuff like Konosuba and Fate/Zero and then literally became K-ON fanboy

[worthy geode]

thats a big hat lol

[turbid oar]

What game is it?

[warm anchor]

That show is really good too.

[tropic flame]

now I watch like, many slice of life stuff

[vestal jasper]

Like the only other things I can think of ATM are JoJo, ergo proxy, serial experiments lain, that one with the dulahan?

Eternity what's the name

Idk if that's a spoiler

[warm anchor]

Which one lol

Durarara?

[magic river]

Witchbrook

https://myanimelist.net/anime/27775/Plastic_Memories

[vestal jasper]

Set in Ikebukiro or smth

[warm anchor]

First thing I can think of if you say dulahan lol

[vestal jasper]

Yeee

Durarara

[tropic flame]

http://www.myanimelist.net/anime/2236

apparently this has sci-fi tag

[warm anchor]

Lmao

[tropic flame]

and I watched it and it's pretty good

Oh YEAH Sonny Boy

[vestal jasper]

Fuck now I want reccs. Anything like lain, ergo proxy, durarara?

[warm anchor]

It’s sci-fi wdym

[turbid oar]

ah

[magic river]

No, that was unrelated 😛

[vestal jasper]

Oh shit, stand alone complex is good too

[magic river]

That was a recommendation for @worthy geode

[tropic flame]

idk, it could be Sci-Fi as much as it could be Adventure because the time traveling feels more like magic

[warm anchor]

We need a PaperMC curated list

[worthy geode]

Im trying to keep up 😄

[warm anchor]

Someone wanna start it?

[tropic flame]

http://www.myanimelist.net/anime/48849

[turbid oar]

What do you mean? Sorry if I asked a stupid question like that.

[tropic flame]

a curated list of anime

[turbid oar]

oh....

[tropic flame]

with our stamp of approval

[warm anchor]

There are site like Anilist that let you make a public list of anime

[tropic flame]

and of course, Monogatari series has to be in there

[warm anchor]

Kinda like steam curator

[turbid oar]

no wonder why I don't understand because I don't watch much anime.

[worthy geode]

I started with SAO, because someone said "if you study game design you need to have watched that" . and then I discovered that I kinda liked anime, so I watched some ghost in the shell, record of grancrest war, revisions, blame and the netflix pacific rim. also avatar but idk if that counts as anime

[tropic flame]

i mean, "curated" is not an anime term

[turbid oar]

Never heard of that term before

[wide chasm]

Is this where I go "fucking weebs"

[warm anchor]

It’s fine if you start with SAO everything else will be better

[worthy geode]

I liked it :/

[warm anchor]

High school of the dead then as amaranth suggested lmao

[tropic flame]

i didn't even bother with SAO once people told me only the first season is good

[turbid oar]

yes

[worthy geode]

Yeah I did not watch whatever spin-offs there are

[warm anchor]

No stef. We are having civil discussion of tv shows

[vestal jasper]

The plot: ||"if you die in-game you die irl"||
The MC: ||is so strong they can't die||

Oh

[wide chasm]

In that case, carry on

[tropic flame]

hot take but Death Note loses its hype once ||L dies|| and that's where I stopped watching

[warm anchor]

SAO is the definition of plot armor

[turbid oar]

@warm anchor Btw Lost Ark is soooo slow on my laptop :(

[warm anchor]

You need a new one

[turbid oar]

I am to poor lol

[worthy geode]

main character killing everything is sometimes fun as well tho

[warm anchor]

It’s on Unreal engine so you gonna get something beefy

[worthy geode]

then you need to play a better game

[warm anchor]

Watch Overlord then @worthy geode

It’s done better

Or one punch man

[vestal jasper]

The point I'm making is that they're using incompatible plots and MCs

[worthy geode]

okay that sounds like just a copy of SAO

[turbid oar]

The game I might want is overwatch hmm

[vestal jasper]

One punch man is pretty good

[warm anchor]

Overlord is older I think @worthy geode

We have to go by Light novel release

Not anime adepton

[vestal jasper]

Opm doesn't have the same problems sao has with it's mc.

[worthy geode]

the main character looks really stupid tho, if that bald guy is the main character

[warm anchor]

That’s the whole show

[vestal jasper]

It's not a serious show

[worthy geode]

ehh

[warm anchor]

It’s so good

Because the way they present it

[worthy geode]

I was gonna say "im not sure if I can take a show seriously if the mc looks like this"

[tropic flame]

if we're recommending out of Sci-fi then by all means watch Fate

[vestal jasper]

Which fate

[tropic flame]

now the question is "where you start?"

personally? start with Fate/Zero

that's how i did it

[vestal jasper]

What next, suggesting they Speedrun ALL of Naruto and Shippuden?

[tropic flame]

no because Naruto sucks

runs

[warm anchor]

No naruto sucks

[vestal jasper]

1000 episodes 20 minutes each

[tropic flame]

if i wanted to suggest a kids anime to malfrador I'd tell them to watch Doraemon

[vestal jasper]

14 days if you watch the entire series

[worthy geode]

why am I now a kid lol xD

[vestal jasper]

Shippuden is just 20x longer than it should be

It'd be fine if it wasn't 90% random side stories

[worthy geode]

also what is up with naming animes. Who thought that naming something "Lord El-Melloi II Sei no Jikenbo: Rail Zeppelin Grace Note" is a good idea (just randomly showed up, lol)

[warm anchor]

It’s from light novel trend

[tropic flame]

o h

that's not where you want to start Fate but

it's pretty good

[warm anchor]

They basically put the summary of entity show onto title

[tropic flame]

^ because I guess teens couldn't be bothered to read back covers for the synopsis

[warm anchor]

The name is just whatever Japanese think it sounds cool

[worthy geode]

its just what my perfectly legal site showed as the first result

[warm anchor]

[tropic flame]

"Fate/Zero"

see if your legal site has that

[vestal jasper]

I think zero is the most commonly known, and tbh only one I could name

[tropic flame]

well, after that you can watch Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works

and then Fate/stay night: Heaven's Feel (three movies)

[warm anchor]

Stay night is where it took off

[tropic flame]

pretty simple

[warm anchor]

But holy that quality was bad

[vestal jasper]

Logics I have a video for this one sec

[warm anchor]

DVD release fixed it but original aired version was

[tropic flame]

oh did it?

i mean i thought the main issue was that they mixed the three routes into just one anime

[vestal jasper]

https://youtu.be/wnVwcUhxt1k

[worthy geode]

that sounds complicated. but the plot seems kinda cool

[tropic flame]

yeah it is cool

and tbh it's only complicated because no one can find a consensus as to where to start

but honestly, start with Zero

[warm anchor]

Also you can’t recommend FATE without ** The Garden of Sinners**

[tropic flame]

you don't ruin anything

[warm anchor]

I think these is enough for malfdador to watch for a month tbf

[worthy geode]

yes

[vestal jasper]

Evangelion :^)

[tropic flame]

have you watched the "long version"?

[warm anchor]

We did. It was the very first!!

[deep juniper]

Oh, curated list of anime? I want to make part of that too! 👀

[warm anchor]

[deep juniper]

^^ Hello!!

[tropic flame]

mfw paper-chan

hi

[deep juniper]

Hello, my dear. 😄

[vestal jasper]

Oh no

[tropic flame]

let me find it

https://youtu.be/UzNSWmokCdU

[vestal jasper]

[worthy geode]

where paper-chan anime 👀

[warm anchor]

Literally not possible to explain that world setting in less than a day so this must be good

TRUE

[deep juniper]

😳 You could ask the Paper team to commission something like that, but I'd say I get too bullied by some for that to happen. 😅

[worthy geode]

Now im kinda wondering what the plot would even be like lol

[deep juniper]

There was someone back when I first appeared who started working on a sort of light novel about me. Maybe something could be picked from it?

[turbid oar]

Is notepad+ good for editing .yml files on your server?

[deep juniper]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lLLzJ7xsZuoTGg_KFh9kVapSq5yXz9L9mC45lkuGuIg/edit?usp=drivesdk

[vestal jasper]

That's what I use. It's not notepad or WordPad.

So it's good enough

[worthy geode]

amazing lol

[void void]

What did I just read

Fucking weebs

[warm anchor]

There is a Tuinity chan one too in Tuinity discord

[turbid oar]

indeed

I like horror, action and comedy movies

[vagrant marlin]

i am banned from there for some god damn reason

😭

[warm anchor]

What did you do Jokni

thought that discord is kinda dead

[magic river]

woo new shirt https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/29116373-save-the-animals?store_id=241319

(on sale for the next 5 hours)

[magic river]

Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya is the weirdest show, if you're ever watching Fate maybe just skip that one

"It's basically a magical girl version"
"I don't think I'll need to watch that"
"It has two lesbian lolis kissing"
"...I think I'll need to watch that."

[warm anchor]

[turbid oar]

🤔

[potent wedge]

Notepad++ is really unintuitive. It's just a solution that works for literally everything (but badly).

Your better off with notepad on windows and nano on Linux (past win7 you can't edit everything on notepad however you can manually launch it from cmd)

[true canyon]

Wat

What about notepad is more intuitive than np++

[turbid oar]

All I think "its a matter of opinion"

[potent wedge]

WAIT visual studio code and GitHub copilot

[unkempt drift]

if you arent coding in np++, are you even coding?

[potent wedge]

Python builtin ide >:)

[turbid oar]

.yml in vsc is meh

[warm anchor]

np++ is really the solution for windows user

maybe sublime?

[potent wedge]

Indent settings are difficult to use and don't work at all

Half the time it doesn't get the correct language

[turbid oar]

forgot about sublime 💀

[potent wedge]

It just saves any kind of thing it likes for it's auto fill

[magic river]

Apparently bitfinex is offering 30% APR for leaving your USD in their exchange

[warm anchor]

[magic river]

https://twitter.com/j0hnwang/status/1524934060954767360

John Wang (@j0hnwang)

Web2: "If you're not paying for it, you are the product."

Web3: "If you don't understand the source of yield, you are the yield."

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[warm anchor]

have to be massive dumb ass to actually do that lol

[magic river]

bitfinex are the ones that mint tether, btw

[merry talon]

oh so like all crypto bros

[tropic flame]

I'm sure as hell N++ detects YAML just fine

in fact as long as you use the correct file extension, it will give you the right syntax highlights and other relevant settings

I guess that's the key, your files actually need to have an extension (and the right one)

if you're just starting a new file then you go over the Language menu (it's right up there on the actions bar) and select YAML

not very hard

[magic river]

They claim it's for leverage or something (they're loaning out your money) but I'd be kind of surprised if it's not so they can give your money to people cashing in tethers and keep the party going

30% is nuts

[merry talon]

oh so it's a ponzi scheme

[warm anchor]

basically

[merry talon]

[potent wedge]

The run button needs to be fixed every time you run it

[tropic flame]

what run button?

[potent wedge]

There's a run button

[tropic flame]

a button to run YAML?

[potent wedge]

It can do commands I think

No

For everything else like gcc

[tropic flame]

huh

I don't use N++ for that

and I don't see N++ as a program of the same scope of VSCode

for editing files, it does what it's meant to do

(and even with VSCode i often prefer opening a dedicated CMD.exe than to use the integrated terminal anyways)

[merry talon]

no one on earth knows how to use vscode's running and debugging features anyway

[tropic flame]

but I guess call me weird

[merry talon]

for all intents and purposes its an editor too

[tropic flame]

ok that's kind of an ignorant statement too LMFAO

I use them whenever I code on it

[potent wedge]

Vs studio or code

[tropic flame]

which is always, btw

you just create a build task with the maven/Gradle command you're supposed to run

then you're done

you click on Run and then "Run build task"

brrrrr

[turbid oar]

?

[potent wedge]

Theres like a really compact code thing with extensions and support for everything (if you have the software) and a very hard to use thing with all the SDK's the difficulty to use something it doesn't have included and no extensions

[tropic flame]

as for debugging, I just click on "debug" right over the main method because I have an extension that adds that option right there

so it's convenient

[turbid oar]

oh so it's something different then vsc?

[potent wedge]

There's two, one that feels like it's from a big company the other feels like it's from a small trusted company

[turbid oar]

I love vsc for my web dev stuff

[magic river]

What?

[tropic flame]

Visual Studio? yes, it came before Visual Studio Code

[turbid oar]

oh that's what it is called. Sibani Mo called it code for short

"code thing"

mb

[tropic flame]

same

[potent wedge]

My descriptivness results caller keys

[turbid oar]

we were discussing what editor is better for .yml but I think the subject changed a little

[tropic flame]

yeah

anyways N++ will open up in a notch and let you get right into action

so uh

yeah

[turbid oar]

vsc likes to do a little glitched load up before being in the editor

[warm anchor]

well N++ takes half a second to open and my VSC takes a minute to fully loaded

[tropic flame]

unless you want red wavy lines telling you wtf is wrong like a Word document, you don't need VSCode

[turbid oar]

True :). Is there a way to install your own theme in N++?

[tropic flame]

probably opening the browser and running the code on a parser is still faster than opening VSCode

yes there is

[turbid oar]

dope

[potent wedge]

You can also make a custom highlighter thing

[magic river]

Depending on how you look at it Visual Studio first released in either 1983, 1993, or 1997

[turbid oar]

ah I see

[magic river]

Visual Studio Code is a completely different thing that just shares part of the name

[potent wedge]

Is that like saying rust either came out in 2012 2015 or 2018

[magic river]

Microsoft C was 1983, Visual C++ was 1993, Visual Studio was 1997

[turbid oar]

yeah I mostly used vsc for web dev crap I do but for everything else it's a bit meh

[tropic flame]

1997, then

[magic river]

But Visual Studio was just Visual C++ and all the variants of it for different languages in a single product so 1993 is a much better answer I think

1983 is pushing it

[merry talon]

why would you not want your editor to tell you whether the yaml you're writing is valid

[turbid oar]

👀

[tropic flame]

find a plugin for N++ that can do that then, i guess

I have one that renders markdown

I can see what I'm writing live

[merry talon]

I just opened vscode with a large project and it took less than 2 seconds

[tropic flame]

pretty good 👍