I'm looking at a bootsplash with a progress bar that says "Installing Updates... Do not turn off your computer"
#general
magic river
golden gust
lol, yea
I mean, I saw that a few weeks ago as I was testing something with a fedora VM
and, like, I kinda get it, but, it's not like live security updates haven't been a thing in the ubuntu scene for years so, idk why they have to make it do it on restarts, etc
magic river
Might be an selinux thing?
golden gust
you can still upgrade in place last I knew
magic river
System is so locked down it can't upgrade itself until/unless it enters a special mode
void void
wave
hello Paper
void void
What's velocity and waterfall
magic river
waterfall is to bungeecord what paper is to spigot
velocity is what you get when you take what you learn from waterfall and make a whole new proxy
vernal moth
Velocity is waterfall without bungeecord
magic river
Forced digitization and work from home fueled the need for hiring tech talent for which organizations were willing to pay a little more, resulting in the average tech worker’s salary to reach $104,566 in the U.S.
Apparently I'm horribly underpaid
vernal moth
Continental wide averages are completely useless
If you wanna compare yourself, do it locally
magic river
Amazon will boost its maximum base pay to $350,000 for corporate and tech employees, from $160,000 previously, as part of an overall increase in total compensation intended to help recruit top talent and retain existing employees.
US-wide averages are useful when the work is mostly or entirely remote
vernal moth
I guess
magic river
I'm not in the same state as the company I work for
magic river
It's an 11 hour drive from me to work 😛
kind stream
How do I check if a gamerule is true/false in my server?
Phantoms arent spawning after 4-5 days no sleep and I suspect maybe insomnia is off
magic river
/gamerule foo, also #paper-help
vernal moth
And people still say you should do cobol to make big bucks, s m h
magic river
That was still true when I got out of school but probably hasn't been for at least a decade
I catch myself still saying it though
warm anchor
And people still say you should do cobol to make big bucks, s m h
Yeah cobol will put you over than that in US 
our pay scale is insane
magic river
Err, the thing I just posted says people who think programming means configuring babel and writing JSX make more than COBOL programmers
(a surprisingly large portion of my job is configuring babel and writing JSX)
golden gust
US wages are often in flated because you pay less in taxes but more elsewhere, etc
though, when shit goes good, I think that you can win pretty nicely in the US vs much of the rest of the world if you get into the right areas
wet storm
Who and why invented using "I" at the beginning of interface names in some apps (Forge for example)? Is it sorta styling or something? Have you ever used such styling in the past?
wide chasm
Yes, there are many places where people sometimes denote what something is with a prefix.
I forgot the exact name of it.
Hungarian notation is what it's called.
wet storm
Sounds like ye olde cpp thing...
wide chasm
It's more popular in some languages than others, C# loves using I to denote interfaces.
tropic flame
it's ew
all my homies hate hungarian notation
I think Java does a better job at it by actually using good naming
List (interface)
ArrayList (implements it)
LinkedList (implements it too)
golden gust
Thing is that List works because it explains a wider concept
it's a list of elements
then you get down to the actual implementations, an array based impl of a List, a linked impl of a List
hungarian notation is weird and not something I personally aim to use, ever; but, at the same point, when the goal is to abstract everything, you get down to the case where naming an interface is ass, and so you either overcomplicate names, or, just prepend it
I think that part of the horror is that much of these things where put in place back 30 years ago when computer monitors where smaller and IDEs where dummer
These days your IDE can natively hint towards all the crap which these "standards" aim to do in a much more productive and efficent manner, especially cross codebases/teams
okay, maybe not hungarian, hungarian is more about field names; there was a more apt term for classes named like that, I think? but, bleh
wide chasm
It depends on where and how it's used. The entire concept became a thing when programming languages didn't have types, or rather, everything is a number. There I can see Hungarian notation being useful, because you want to know what you're actually storing in that variable. I think an extension of Hungarian notation where you don't abbreviate the type, but actually spell it out is much more sensible and more commonplace. Wouldn't be the first time I converted strings to integers and named one of those "stringNumber" or something. And you could argue that naming a variable just the type (e.g., "String string", "Exception exception", etc.) is just this extended form, you're just prefixing an empty name. And this is really quite common.
I think the point is, like everything, Hungarian notation can be useful, just don't blindly follow it.
wet storm
I suspect that "I" in forge goes from the mcp days when that hella old decompiler they used did hungarian notation for simplicity of reading interfaces...
wet storm
I mean, they use mojmaps by default now
stuck lynx
Fabric > Forge
change my mind
mossy relic
guys is spigot working for you
pulsar tide
It's not
limber knotBOT
issue is known and being worked on 👀
limber knotBOT
Soon™
mossy relic
phoenix do you love god
golden gust
I love dogs
limber knotBOT
lol
mossy relic
is phoenix an actual bot
golden gust
if phoenix is a bot, pretty dum bot
limber knotBOT
at least I'm not a cat
mossy relic
WOAHHHH
golden gust
I will fite you
void void
webhookkkkk
rare python
IRC is bad
full rune
lavish compass
"stablecoin"
violet tulip
warm anchor
"stablecoin"
twin lagoon
"stablecoin"
tether is a meme
pale river
"stablecoin"
buy the dip?
lavish compass
oh wait i sent the wrong chart
because you see
it is supposed to be constantly 1 USD
but apparently it's now 0.53
pale river
do I buy this dip?
twin lagoon
absolutely not
pale river
it went to 23 cents lol
lavish compass
pale river
Hopefully tether is next
pale river
I don't believe it's actually backed by what they claim
twin lagoon
magic river
TIL Philadelphia had trolleybus lines, still has the wires up for them, but replaced them with battery electric busses
twin lagoon
tether money printer go brrr
radiant oriole
It’s not, we know it’s not
magic river
But then winter hit and they couldn't run the EVs anymore
twin lagoon
i've got a discord bot as a joke that alerts me whenever tether dips below 1usd
that's when you know they've printed another billion usd
pale river
great, that's two people printing the usd
radiant oriole
Hell some of their holdings are fucking crypto, the same thing they’re hedging against
Fucking brilliant economics
magic river
Printed another USDT, you mean
Tether is supposedly one of the top 5 US holders of US commercial paper
lavish compass
there's also USDC and DAI
magic river
None of the others in the top 5 had any idea they existed
radiant oriole
Tether is supposedly one of the top 5 US holders of US commercial paper
supposedly they don’t actually hold much cash though
magic river
Well, sure, US commercial paper means unsecured loans
radiant oriole
Well yes they don’t hold much of that either lmao
magic river
Like, you give Apple a loan for $20b and don't take collateral because you know they're good for it and the collateral would be "here is the company, good luck"
Like time I looked they claimed over half their holdings were commercial paper
Which, to be honest, I'm pretty sure meant unsecured loans to bitfinex
radiant oriole
Mine is large too, very large actually, and everybody who’s seen it has always been impressed with its size
void void
same
sage vessel
mental meadow
Twitter
neon bramble
TIL paper has a twitter
mental meadow
yesss! we're trying to be more active there with the weekly thingies now
magic river
AC is not only significantly faster than eigencraft (redstonewireturbo), it's also closer to vanilla mechanics and stable in the areas where it deviates while eigencraft is random
The deviations from vanilla are basically bugs that it fixes with directionality or locality making your circuit do different things
It still has some directionality cases but not as many and they're always the same direction while eigencraft makes them intentionally random
mental meadow
for a second I thought you are talking about air conditioning
magic river
tldr everyone should use the AC redstone implementation
void void
magic river
I think the randomness in eigencraft was meant to make you not accidentally build things that were dependent on a particular behavior
Instead people immediately started using it (even the creator afaik) for RNG in their machines
golden gust
I think part of the fun was down to the implementations of java collections being a core part of how redstone works, 😄
or, well, at least that was one issue I had elsewhere while looking into something
thin rover
I think the randomness in eigencraft was meant to make you not accidentally buil...
As per my understanding, the randomness was a request by Grumm, who preferred it over any kind of asymmetry.
rare python
https://twitter.com/PaperPowered/status/1524420420820246529 :3
cool, put it in discord for people who don't use twitter
magic river
lol I think he has AC on a highlight 😄
I could see Grum asking for that though
Flip a coin on any given day and I'll probably change my mind about it
(get it?)
Unless there is a plan to make the problem go away in the future (which doesn't seem possible) I'd rather have it be consistent though
mental meadow
~~cool, put it in discord for people who don't use twitter~~
There are a lot of sites that offer a RSS feed of twitter feeds, maybe thats an option for you for now?
magic river
If there was a plan for it you'd want the randomness to ensure people don't ossify the existing bugs by relying on them
vernal moth
What do the leaks say, is it worth watching google I/O?
twin lagoon
starts in 20 min iirc
vernal moth
Yeah I know
twin lagoon
pls announce pixel watch
vernal moth
If the pixel watch doesn't have week + battery life I don't want it
I got so used to that on my Huawei watch, easy two week battery life
mental meadow
a good smart watch to replace my fossil hybrid watch would be epic
twin lagoon
aslong as it has NFC i will buy it
mental meadow
that reminds me, I get to switch out the battery on my gf's Oneplus 5t in a few days, that will be exciting
I even got fancy glue to glue it back together
prisma orchid
Any ssh pros here?
warm anchor
pls announce pixel watch
stop coping 
mental meadow
ssh is short for sssssheeeesh
true canyon
pls announce pixel watch
Nah, just proud to announce mapping more buildings
true canyon
Any ssh pros here?
Just ask your question instead effectively asking to ask
twin lagoon
@true canyon 🥺
twin lagoon
those are some sick features ngl
true canyon
But I want the devices! 🥺
magic river
I'm interrupting the Yankees game for this, gimme 6a already
vernal moth
I'll wait till I can watch it at 2x, lol
true canyon
Srsly. I need 6a, sitting on my 3a now.
twin lagoon
those automated summaries are sick
magic river
Now we're finding out what birds are bothering us
red timber
meanwhile apple watch series 7
twin lagoon
government drones*
red timber
1.5 days
warm anchor
AppleWatch™️
true canyon
Now we're finding out what birds are bothering us
What are birds? We just don't know.
magic river
The government drones are just protecting us from the hog invasion
warm anchor
shit costs like 500€ish
You know even if you own a non-applewatch, people will still ask if that's from Apple
red timber
lmao
golden gust
CIA drones are just a cover up for a war against emus
warm anchor
atleast in US that's largely the case
magic river
I've thought I might want an Apple Watch a few times but the battery life sucks and you have to have an iPhone
golden gust
oh, wait, that already happened
magic river
On the other hand if you do have an iPhone and get anything other than an Apple Watch you must like pain
warm anchor
yeah AppleWatch last for a day with normal useage
magic river
Oh yeah, the British lost a war against emus, right?
golden gust
I kinda stopped wearing my watch recently because I just can't be arsed with it atm, especially as I need to get a new charging cable and maybe replace the battery, etc
was in aussy land
idr when it was/the parties involved, but, 😄
I think that the thing with watches is that they charge at a decent rate that you can kinda work it into your schedule
Like, I'd often just slap mine on charge when I went to do the morning S's and put it back on as I was leaving, or charge it when I was at my desk doing nothing, etc
warm anchor
I wear mine for 12+ hour a day, when I sleep, I put them on my nightstand charger
magic river
Yeah I end up charging mine while at my desk still but it's nice to only have to do it every 4 or so days
warm anchor
so it really isnt an issue for me if battary dont last for more than a day.
magic river
Wearing it at night is the whole reason I have it
red timber
yeah i have like 3 apple devices atm, they all work nicely together
the days of having to worry about my phone not shitting itself randomly are gone
or overheating in pocket because ??? android doing some bullshit again
warm anchor
for me it was not needing to wear the armbend that holds my phone for when I was out jogging
golden gust
My big thing was sleep tracking and also just generally the fact that I leave my phone literally everywhere just cos I get distracted, and find my phone on the watch was a blessing, not to mention notifications so I know if I need to go find it or not
magic river
The way he says knowledge keeps making me think of the lambo guy
Forget his name, some grifter
Tai Lopez
true canyon
New feature for nest hub max, just stare longingly at it and ask questions, no "okay Google"
mental meadow
A watch with a blood pressure tracker would be awesome for me, no more fiddling around with the annoying arm thingy
twin lagoon
A watch with a blood pressure tracker would be awesome for me, no more fiddling ...
you need access to a normal blood pressure device to get a baseline
and laws/regulations make it slightly difficult for smartwatches to havev one
mental meadow
I have 2
twin lagoon
but i know the samsung smartwatches have it
vernal moth
"the growing android ecosystem you will hear about in a few minutes"
mental meadow
I'm not looking for accurate values, but for trends over time and how my blood pressure medication is working
vernal moth
There was the teaser
void void
Does anyone here happen to know the script formatting for the BiomeTweaker mod?
Cuz I wrote 3 little scripts and i thought they where fine but they don't work
mental meadow
Oh Pog i might get one of those if there won't be a pixel one
My phone is already Samsung so at least it fits :D
void void
will samsung ever fix the fucked up snapchat camera? i wonder
like why is the snapchat camera so much better on iphone
golden gust
one of the biggest issues with android is the camera API sucks donkey
mental meadow
Because Snapchat on Android is programmed bad at least from what I've heard in the past
vague lagoon
because iphone doesn’t have a million different series every year
amongst other reasons probably
mental meadow
Iirc they used to/did take screenshots of the camera feed instead of actually take a picture
void void
i heard it was something to so with snapchat doing a "preview" of the camera without actually hooking it
*to do
golden gust
and so any app wanting to do stuff with the camera either gets limited from said API or does stuff to try to get around it which ends up sucking and getting into hardware specifics which ends up sucking
mental meadow
Okay back to i/o that looks awesome
golden gust
Like, so many camera features basically end up on relying on device specific APIs outside of androids built in API
I'll probs watch the highlights, I just wanna facedesk right now
void void
nobody here knows BiomeTweaker?
golden gust
I mean, this is far from the best community to be asking about mods
mental meadow
See I'm already back in bed the third time today to avoid facedesk cat
twin lagoon
@mental meadow uwu
mental meadow
uwu 😊
void void
It's way harder than you think to find help for some mods
I've tried multiple subreddits lmao
And a few github pages
magic river
lol humble bundle is doing a steam deck bundle
magic river
The 6a is supposed to be today
mental meadow
project shield sounds like something Tony Stark created that caused Ultron
ripe sphinx
SHIELD is the dude with the eyepatch
SHIELD was the program, dude with the eyepatch was the boss
magic river
I wish they didn't make their 2FA like Apple's where you use one of your other devices to verify
I prefer TOTP
vernal moth
Hangar supports totp, security keys, and using your phone as 2fa
twin lagoon
a feature that will never make it outside of the US
vernal moth
runs
mental meadow
Niiiice
magic river
The last two times I factory reset my phone I had to burn a recovery key because only a phone could verify a phone, apparently
I already use privacy.com
mental meadow
I always feel like when Google talks about privacy and data protection they mean "someone else besides us getting your data"
twin lagoon
google can take all of my personal data
mental meadow
Not like they don't already have it
twin lagoon
good
warm anchor
My phone told me it takes 10 minutes to drive to my office. Even on my day off 
when I step out of my door. Google knows.
twin lagoon
warm anchor
twin lagoon
magic river
mental meadow
worn ember
Opening general was a mistake
mental meadow
Choosing categories of ads you're interested in sounds kinda cool
worn ember
how about no ads?
warm anchor
“Anime”
warm anchor
Opening general was a mistake
You are a mistake but we still love you ded
worn ember
You are a mistake but we still love you ded <:AYAYARie:788407255200038912>
dont lie 
mental meadow
I'd rather see good and non-disruptive ads then pay for Google
worn ember
pay for google?
mental meadow
Well that would be the Alternative to ads
worn ember
They already make tonnes selling your search queries 🙂
mental meadow
Android now
warm anchor
They already make tonnes selling your search queries 🙂
Idk man. I don’t know any advertiser wants my search history
warm anchor
True
mental meadow
Damn different languages per App is epic
worn ember
translation keys?
twin lagoon
google pay 
vernal moth
They already make tonnes selling your search queries 🙂
They don't, why would they give away their most valuable data?
warm anchor
Let’s ask German about data privacy 
worn ember
seems to be the trend
warm anchor
Don’t you guy have the most strict law around it
void void
am i allowed to post a meme in here
mental meadow
#gifs-and-memes
smoky cloud
I don't think outselling the Pixel 4 would be hard
void void
Guys, how much players your 1.18.2 server can hold?
twin lagoon
atleast 5
ripe sphinx
depends on many factors
I've got a really heavy and unoptimized server, and at least 15 should be playable on mine
mental meadow
What's the difference between that live translate and the one included in the normal assistant?
smoky cloud
Those do not look comfortable
vernal moth
What's the difference between that live translate and the one included in the no...
It works offline
mental meadow
Ah i see
vernal moth
And thus is waaaaayyy faster
mental meadow
Yeah that makes sense
vernal moth
Is it just me or is the pixel 7 uglehy as hell?
twin lagoon
it's the same design as the pixel 6
mental meadow
I kinda like it
twin lagoon
nothing pretty
vernal moth
The black glass camera bar of my 6 looks way nicer
twin lagoon
pixel watch 
mental meadow
Pretty
vernal moth
Still at -3min, no spoilers!
mental meadow
Pls tell me it has blood pressure
twin lagoon
google pay
mental meadow
Damn no mention sad
twin lagoon
ok 0 details but i'll buy it
vernal moth
It uses wear os so only one day battery life so basically useless
mental meadow
Okay that tablet looks ugly af
vernal moth
Those bezels are like double of mine, lol
mental meadow
I need more details on the watch though
mental meadow
I'd like to see more Nest stuff
I do love my Nest Protects but they are sooo expensive and the nest app is shit
vernal moth
Why do you need a smart smoke detector?
mental meadow
It's actually pretty useful imo
Like here in the apartment it's nice to have just because it sends you notifications when shits happening
Plus the early warning is nice to have, where it tells you if there is smoke, but nothing dangerous yet, where other smoke detectors would just go off while cooking
Back home in Germany it's even more useful because my grandparents live right next to us, and my uncle with his family lives above them. So when one smoke alert gets set off they all go together and tell you where the smoke is
We bought them mostly to make sure we'd notice if my grandparents forget to turn off the stove and start a fire
golden gust
I mean, much of that is shittily installed detectors
mental meadow
Which actually almost happened once so yay
golden gust
had one fun issue with a flat in which the shared kitchen didn't have a smoke extractor which was piped in properly, it just kinda like, dumped out the smoke in the correct kinda area
mental meadow
Also the carbon monoxide alarm is the most obnoxious thing I've ever heard it's perfect
golden gust
and, the window was low down af, and so, smoke rises, builds up under door frame, hits smoke detector
mental meadow
But for real the fact that I get a notification if there's smoke and potentially hurry back home or call a neighbor to check before there's a proper fire is really nice to have, i don't wanna say it's relaxing but it's one less thing to worry about
Also it has a night light
vernal moth
I guess I never worried about fires, lol
mental meadow
But because of the nature of carbon monoxide detectors you'll have to replace it after 10 years which sucks for a device that expensive
vernal moth
I don't have the mental capacity to worry about such things
wide chasm
Smoke detectors that turn on a light if they detect movement can burn in a fire. Want to go to the toilet at night, entire house is awake because the smoke detector decides to turn on its light.
mental meadow
I'm constantly anxious about everything so it's nice to have
vernal moth
You can't use a smart device for 10 years anyways, lol
mental meadow
Why not?
vernal moth
Because they will not function anymore cause some cloud went down
golden gust
inb4,
mental meadow
I mean they still work as a smoke detector then :D
vernal moth
Will they?
golden gust
gets home
no house
NO HOUSE?!
Y no alarm?!!!!
googles
AWS outage
vernal moth
Will they who?
mental meadow
They do, i tested it
vernal moth
You get 2 years warranty, why would it work longer than that
magic river
Woo 6a
golden gust
Part of the fun has been random shit bricking itself
There was some smart home product thing in which if you factory reset the thing it would brick itself as the cloud service had gone vamoosk
mental meadow
They work without internet :D they even manage to activate the other protects in the house somehow
golden gust
Well, devices generally kinda have their own APIs running on the LAN
So, they can generally talk using that
mental meadow
I unplugged the router so I'm not sure how
vernal moth
Wait does that mean I get to activate them via my phone if you share your wifi? 😂
true canyon
Still can't preorder 6a :(
mental meadow
I think they use some Bluetooth magic but no idea how they manage that distance
No, testing only works via Bluetooth
golden gust
bluetooth has a fairly decent range, tbqh
vernal moth
You wouldn't use Bluetooth for that, just normal 2.4ghz
golden gust
Like, I can take my headphones from my living room and sit on the crapper fine
good few meters
then theres stuff like zigbee, etc
vernal moth
You call that fairly decent? Lol
mental meadow
Sadge
golden gust
I mean, it's bluetooth
vernal moth
Also, Bluetooth or Bluetooth LE?
golden gust
well, headphones, so I doubt LE
vernal moth
My Sonys use LE if they can
golden gust
Well, chinesium headphones
I got them off a mate, but, range is generally good these days
BT 5 LE is spec'd up to 400m
vernal moth
I know, it's still nothing to proper 2.4ghz
golden gust
Bluetooth 2.1 is up to 100m
vernal moth
In a vacuum maybe
My headset at work is 2.4ghz and I can walk thru half the building and it still works
In a really high noise area, since everybody has headsets and we have 4 wifi networks meshed across the campus
mental meadow
Sadge
I just noticed that the batteries have lasted over 5 years now which is impressive for a smart device
golden gust
I mean, that's what LE is for
the thing can basically trickle batteries down and are generally rated for like 10 years
at which you should generally be replacing these devices anyways
mental meadow
Yeah but it's internet connected
And it's using cheap AA batteries from Aldi
golden gust
not really surprising, tbqh
bluetooth LE devices have lasted for 10 years on a coin cell
more likely that the battery will expire and leak before they drain out if you're using cheapos
am do crash, but, before I go, enjoy https://twitter.com/NoContextBrits/status/1524417005671133185
potent wedge
Is integer compression like lin256 or whatever it's called useless?
Like 25565 in watchamacallit is like 0xa5 0xa577 0xbhgs
So 25565 is 6 bytes but lib447 or whatever is 20 bytes+ (longer because I made that up in my head)
quick obsidian
i like your funny words
red timber
inspiring
potent wedge
okay here is real 25565 vs LEB128
5 bytes vs 12 bytes
>>> Normal = 25565
>>> len(LEB128)
12
>>> len(b'25565') # len doesnt work with integers but b'' works better
5```@magic river https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-releases-open-source-gpu-kernel-modules/ in case you havnt seen it yet
hollow agate
Wow 2022 and Nvidia goes OS finally.
magic river
Without an open source userspace it won't get accepted
So it'll be better than ZFS since you can ship the module binary with your distro but still have to live out of tree and hope no one removes anything they're using
ashen cliff
<@118838921080602628> https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-releases-open-sou...
It was leaked anyway. 
magic river
Oh it's also almost literally just their closed source driver but open
The only major change appears to be that it has DMA-BUF support (which is probably the reason this happened)
It's still a generic core with a Linux wrapper and the API/ABI still changes every driver release
rare python
Someone on my server asked if they were allowed to build a TNT duper... I told them yes. 
pale river
Dick move
brave mountain
<@118838921080602628> https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-releases-open-sou...
No way
red timber
nvidia driver mainline when
brave mountain
Oh it's also almost literally just their closed source driver but open
At least it opens the door for improvement
red timber
someone PRed PCI BAR resizing support recently
vestal jasper
🤔
twin lagoon
@vestal jasper 
vestal jasper
warm anchor
obsidian cypress
help I can't turn on my server with 1.16.5 paper
worthy geode
1.16.5 is not supported, its outdated.
the answer is probably in the log when trying to start the server though, I suggest reading that
potent wedge
help I can't turn on my server with 1.16.5 paper
dont tell anyone that im helping you- But did you use java and batch file?
brave mountain
dont tell anyone that im helping you- But did you use java and batch file?
Lol
brave mountain
help I can't turn on my server with 1.16.5 paper
Usa 1.18.2 amigo!
brave mountain
https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules/issues/1#issuecomment-11243522...
😂
magic river
The driver is only going to get upstreamed if they rewrite it and also nouveau uses it
But at least it exists now, I guess
Oh and they have no interest in community involvement apparently, releases will be tossed over the wall
And if you do manage to write something they want to use you have to sign a CLA that gives them the right to do whatever they want with it
turbid oar
Cat time 🙃
potent wedge
My cat triec to kill me earlier
spare venture
#adorable-pets
unkempt drift
ha, just found this again on the forums. gonna repost for those that didnt see it before https://forums.papermc.io/threads/all-player-advancements-reset.272/post-811
spare venture
wow
foggy silo
(Thick glass)
spare venture
is there a way to override all lang files in a resourcepack at once, if i were to change one line i'd prefer not to make 100+ files for each language
unkempt drift
I dont think so
I would just write a script to generate that stuff for you if there isn't a way to do it
spare venture
I dont know where to get a list of all lang files 😦
i think i'm just going to stick to en_us
turbid oar
<#506018400078659585>
Don't have access...
@cosmic raft If you don't mind can I have access to that channel?
magic river
Distros will be able to ship this driver as a part of their kernel package, all precompiled and signed just like every other driver
But the model for it is still the same as the closed source driver: releases are thrown over the wall, need a new kernel module for a new userspace driver release, etc
And there is zero chance that gets into the upstream kernel
lavish compass
Holy shit, what
warm anchor
@lavish compass
lavish compass
NVIDIA open source driver? No way
magic river
The hope is that Red Hat can take this and work with nvidia to make a new amdgpu-like kernel module that has a stable ABI that both nouveau and nvidia use
lavish compass
<@290921387655430144> <:AYAYARie:788407255200038912>
magic river
That would be able to go upstream since it would have a functional userspace driver and would follow kernel development policies
And then eventually perhaps you'll only use the closed source driver if you care about CUDA
But this is years away, if it happens at all
lavish compass
Still, a good step from nvidia
magic river
It's good, I'm a bit worried that only Red Hat has been talking about this roadmap though
nvidia's roadmap for it is just to try to stabilize the ABI
I figure nvidia didn't have a choice, DMA-BUF is everywhere now and is the glue heterogenous computing is using which is very important in mobile and datacenter/supercomputer
And they can't use DMA-BUF without an open source driver
They either have to fork the driver for every device they want their GPUs to share buffers with (and carry all of those forever out of tree too), have an inefficient system that requires all of those buffers to go through the CPU and main memory, or open source so they can use DMA-BUF
It's notable that the only new API this open source driver uses vs the closed one is DMA-BUF
Otherwise it's still entirely off in its own world reinventing everything
sharp spindle
mellow canyon
indeed yeah so it makes sense that there is some overhead for being safer but the trade off of speed vs being unsafe i think is very justifiable
mellow canyon
np lol learning a new language is always a good time, unless its go
mellow canyon
the language overall seems kinda backwards to me
sharp spindle
learned it in one day and then made a small thing to test what i knew then never touched it again
golden gust
c++ is bad because if I write bad code it can be vulnerable...
sharp spindle
i write bad code in general ez
golden gust
I mean, yea, sure, rust has baby buggy bumpers for some stuff but that is a fucking stretch and a half
mellow canyon
i could never get the hang of c++
sharp spindle
I mean, yea, sure, rust has baby buggy bumpers for some stuff but that is a fuck...
is rust not anywhere close to c++?
or like what do u mean
i tried c++ but it has so much abstraction that i think i'd rather learn it over summer before starting college this september
golden gust
I'm saying the the fact that you can write shit code is a stupid metric for how good a language is
You can write shit code in rust too, just there are extra buggy bumpers to protect you from doing stuff *too * dangerous
sharp spindle
if you were about to learn a language, would u recommend rust over c++?
or c++
over rust
i just need somthin new to do 
sharp spindle
ah yeah
makes sense haha
i only learned golang because caddy interested me in it
the web server
warm anchor
Current mood
Oh the flip side, no one is gonna steal your bike now
vernal moth
Haha
golden gust
I ain't played with new languages in a while because my brain is like, bleeeh
vernal moth
It's locked in company garage anyways
golden gust
go looked semi interesting for 5 minutes and then I noticed that the entire thing was pretty much developer hostile
sharp spindle
yeahhh i should've honestly stuck to a few languages but i went and learned like 10 languages and only am somewhat good in like 4 of them
💀
but at least i have somewhat of an understanding on how to use each of the 10 so
(not just programming btw)
actually i shouldn't count php as something i know i despise php
my friend took interest in dart and it looks pretty cool
oh nice, discord actually switched from go to rust 2 years ago
turbid oar
Another cute cat picture 
golden gust
cat just looks kinda done
turbid oar
True 😄
turbid oar
Cat time 🙃
My other one is this I saw when I woke up
magic river
So I don't get it, are they tanking LUNA to try to get UST back up to $1 or is it just failing because people are bailing on it?
Or maybe both, I guess
[Rust] is slower than C++ because it is inherently safer
bleh Discord
mental meadow
https://news.samsung.com/global/galaxy-watchs-blood-pressure-monitoring-could-he...
very tempting ngl
magic river
Basically identical on that chart and last time I pulled it up they were actually the other way around
I guess someone gave the C++ benchmarks another optimization pass
If you're writing something larger than a toy for a benchmark then things change too
For one thing, it's impossible to optimize a useful program to the level these things are, that only makes sense if your program has some small piece(s) that take up a significant chunk of your runtime
crystal lilyBOT
golden gust
keep clicking more
void void
i cant find 1 18 1
golden gust
it's on there, theres been like 100 builds of .2, so you're gonna have to click more a few times, or use the API; Or, just use a supported version
merry talon
man the rate at which cloudflare is innovating right now
unbelievable
every product they announce just blows anything else in the same space away
merry talon
go looked semi interesting for 5 minutes and then I noticed that the entire thin...
i mean yeah when what you're used to writing in is essentially the direct opposite of go's philosophy, they're very much on different ends of the feature creep and complexity spectrum
golden gust
I mean, the general philophy I saw was that devs are dum and can't be trusted with anything much which adds complexity
merry talon
admittedly they might have taken it a bit far, but it's compelling to me because I will literally sit there for an hour comparing linters lol
different strokes I guess
basically yes I'm dum
wet storm
Thoughts https://racket-lang.org/ "Racket, the Language-Oriented Programming Language"
golden gust
Sounds like a racket
void void
this?
twin lagoon
he said 100 builds of .2
not specifically build 100
literally just scroll down the page until you see 1.18.1
vapid egret
hi
void void
@twin lagoon can you send me 1 18 1 pls 
hexed dragon
Find 216
twin lagoon
literally just scroll down the page until you see 1.18.1
.
twin lagoon
proceeds to ping
native wolf
^
and also, for the love of God, please don't use TLauncher
they are known for being shady and doing some rather malware-like stuff on your system
they also collect data about you, run with full admin permissions in the background (via their "updater" service)
and some people have reported them stealing accounts, which doesn't surprise me at all
void void
and also, for the love of God, please don't use TLauncher
i use it long time ago cuz idh premium lol
worn ember
and some people have reported them stealing accounts, which doesn't surprise me ...
how you gonna steal accounts if its a cracked launcher 
quiet mesa
Any how use scaleway know how can upgrade the internal image for a instance?
pastel bluff
Any how use scaleway know how can upgrade the internal image for a instance?
You mean better specs ?
You need to create a Snapshot of the actual one and then apply it on the new instance with better specs
quiet mesa
You mean better specs ?
nono, only the image.. i upgrade to latest LTS but the MOTD show the IMAGE version was still in 18.04
pastel bluff
Uh
brave mountain
Broken upgrade
quiet mesa
brave mountain
Is a VPS?
brave mountain
Could be a behavior of the cloud image they used for deployment
In cloud is safer to build a new instance of the lastest version and migrate the files etc
than upgrade
quiet mesa
yeah i wanna avoid this but maybe its was i need to do.
brave mountain
Even bare metal is risky
I upgraded from 20.04 to 22.04 and after reboot I couldn't connect to the server
It turns out that a driver malfunction caused the Ethernet to be undetectable
quiet mesa
yeah i keep many files local in upgrade and avoid the upgrade change this.. many network broken in the past
brave mountain
I had to bring the server home, no mc for 3 days for my homies
vernal moth
Went to the bike repair shop next to my house, guy is repairing it for free, what a hero
haughty bear
I use a single repo for my code and my plugin documentation. I have folders core, paper holding my source code. When I checkout to my docs branch, these folders stay and are included if I do git add. Is having a main and docs (and push to gh-pages to deploy) an alright setup, or is there a better way?
void void
any idea if you can use like 4 2gb ram servers as a single 8gb ram server?
lament patio
You can't
glass crag
I wouldn't use a branch to store docs like that, put it in a new folder in main branch or a new repo
golden gust
lsb_release, not lbs_release
nature of it basically being ubuntu, do-release-upgrade?
untold meadow
@twin lagoon sorry for ping
red timber
install a mod which adds support for bungeecord/velocity and you're good to go
urban depot
Is there a most commonly used one?
urban depot
I suppose velocity with a mod will do. alr
untold meadow
best kezz ???
best micehaelw !!!!!!
unkempt drift
I would probably pay someone $100 to deal with this right now. I’m taking care of my grandparents house while they are away and I found this in the garage.
warm anchor
I would probably pay someone $100 to deal with this right now. I’m taking care o...
@static badge
Gonna call for the specialist
ivory light
Chat Preview is O.o
golden gust
did it died?
warm anchor
Clearly it’s just chilling and having a nap
golden gust
oof
spare venture
oh boy i’m about to update my server to 1.18 just in time for 1.19
golden gust
The chat preview is something we where talking about
Issue is that the server and client basically agree upon what is signed
unkempt drift
Clearly it’s just chilling and having a nap
Yeah it’s dead. This is my first rat interaction tho. Man. I did not think I would be this grossed out by a dead one.
warm anchor
Wear a glove and pick it up and yeeeeeet
hearty crag
lavish compass
rat repellent
unkempt drift
Nah I found a shovel
unkempt drift
Idk where to put it either. Like just throw it in the landscaping or in the trash can or what. Gonna be gross anywhere
golden gust
trash cos then it can just be taken away and you don't gotta deal with it more
spare venture
put it outside to send a message to the other rats
golden gust
rats don't give a shit, lol
vernal moth
Doesn't really matter
warm anchor
put it outside to send a message to the other rats
“Wow look at this nice human sending us food”
urban depot
flush it down to warn its friends
why not just flush it anyway when you're done
that's manky
quick obsidian
YOOO
still sorrel
huh what does that do
ivory light
With there test rainbow thing on
still sorrel
uh I see
urban depot
um what's the point
golden gust
chat is now signed
still sorrel
and show the parsed result
golden gust
the preview basically allows for the back and forth magic which would allow servers to modify chat and the client to sign said modified chat
urban depot
the messages are already signed with their usernames though aren't they?
golden gust
but, the server can't modify said messages without losing the signature
urban depot
Oh that's smart
vernal moth
Basically Mojang copied out chat renderer Interface, lol
Their chat decorator is our chat renderer
brave mountain
they copied paper?
quick obsidian
they often 'take inspiration' from existing projects, they can't include external code though
pistons were originally from a mod, for example
vernal moth
They can and do include external code
brave mountain
emojis or chat coloring
quick obsidian
oh slicedlime told me they don't do that
brave mountain
?
golden gust
Well, they can't just copy code from randomers
vernal moth
But no, they didn't copy anything, there's only so many ways you can have such an interface, lol
I just was saying they have the same concept now
brave mountain
are emojis on java?
quick obsidian
i was talking about including starlight on stream and he said they can't accept external code
¯_(ツ)_/¯
vernal moth
Which isn't surprising, cause as cat said, we explicitly asked for this
golden gust
but, they use 3rd party libraries, and generally, there is a whole bunch of people around whom talk about this stuff
brave mountain
they copy the idea but not the code, ok
quick obsidian
ahh ok so libs are fine i get you
golden gust
This entire mechanism of the back and forth is something we asked for
vernal moth
i was talking about including starlight on stream and he said they can't accept ...
They can't just include giant patches like that
But we often collaborate on exploits
golden gust
The concept is that the server can modify the component, send it back to the client, and the client can sign it before it sends it
quick obsidian
but, the server can't modify said messages without losing the signature
so they can modify the components but not replace the text in the components?
golden gust
if you modify the component, you're gonna break the signature
quick obsidian
but styling modifies the component?
golden gust
styling how?
quick obsidian
colors, formatting (bold, underline) etc
golden gust
Yes
which is why, the server can now send the custom styled component back to the client for the client to sign
quick obsidian
ahh ok so now the server can change it back
that's super smart
good idea cat, happy to see it implemented
vernal moth
It's a hard requirement for any of this to work on servers
If servers can't modify the message, nobody will enabled signed chat, making all this effort obsolete
quick obsidian
mojang officially switches to adventure when 
golden gust
oh god, I dread to see how spigot will deal with this
vernal moth
Inb4 spigot just disables signing and changes nothing
quick obsidian
it's md_5, so there won't be a spigot API for it and he'll deprecate all the events again
foggy silo
I mean spigot legit ignores translatable everywhere lol
golden gust
I mean, we are gonna have to break out some logic
vernal moth
Well, we don't have a solution for commands either auxilor
quick obsidian
the material enum is so big it lags out intellij just opening the file
golden gust
so, gonna be interesting to see where this goes so that we can design the API, etc
I mean, mini
vernal moth
Other than telling everybody to use cloud I guess
golden gust
That's why I REALLY wanna replace the command API
quick obsidian
Well, we don't have a solution for commands either auxilor
wdym, why not make a better command API
vernal moth
Because it's hard
vernal moth
We need a middle ground between string[] and brigadier
quick obsidian
deprecate the existing spigot one and have a better one, i know CommandMap is a pain in the ass to work with
golden gust
Or, wait, SimpleCommandMap
quick obsidian
lmfao
golden gust
I mean, I have ideas, how to expose brig is gonna be the fun one
vernal moth
Brigadier is too complicated, string[] doesn't work anymore
golden gust
Brig is basically unavoidable, really
quick obsidian
generalize the command system into interfaces, deprecate the spigot impl and then add the paper one
didn't luck already make an api to use brig
golden gust
I wanna keep the existing PluginCommand, just throw that over to a greedy string or whatever
quick obsidian
PluginCommand sucks ass though
golden gust
create a new Command which basically wraps brig, which, idfk how that's gonna play out
PluginCommand would basically be the legacy wrapper magic
foggy silo
It should be mentioned that the server doesn’t sign the preview message, it still signs the raw player message. The player chat now sends the original message and the “unsigned” server component.
quick obsidian
yeah that's more or less what i would do, mark everything spigot does as legacy and then have an actually good api instead
golden gust
keep existing plugins working but generally, I do wanna encourage sane API more
foggy silo
^^
quick obsidian
there's a reason half of all spigot plugins (mine included) depend on external library plugins to have things not suck as much
yeah exactly
golden gust
Well, yea, which is why we're gonna need to expose more of brig
Not exposing brig at this point is stupid
vernal moth
I def want to encourage properly adding permissions too
I hate how people don't define perms at the command node
It's breaks so many things
brave mountain
that chat preview could broken command competition?
golden gust
Well, yea, hint: We can do that with new API
quick obsidian
i don't like how commands have to be specified in plugin.yml unless you reflect your way into commandmap
vernal moth
Am not advocating against new API cat, I agree we need something new, but I have no good plan for something good
foggy silo
Paper exposes command map iirc
golden gust
I mean, I don't really wanna, but, you can force that to be provided for the args for a new root node
vernal moth
I would loooooove to force perms for every command
quick obsidian
Paper exposes command map iirc
oh fair, im stuck with the spigot api for anything else than internals
quick obsidian
I would loooooove to force perms for every command
log a warning every time a command is registered without a permission node?
golden gust
Once again, emoji and formatting is just an example of things which servers do which requires the server to modify chat messages
golden gust
I feel like crap but I may start looking at a command API replacement, even if I don't get the brig stuff nailed into the API I do wanna look at exposing it in some manner
yeet paper-mojangapi
foggy silo
The preview allows an unsigned portion to be sent with the players message that is controlled by the server.
quick obsidian
with 1.19 coming up it's the perfect opportunity to bring some big api changes with it
quasi cave
Has anyone tried to combine McMMO with Aurelium Skills? is it possible?
brave mountain
so i can send message to the console without sending a message
quick obsidian
Has anyone tried to combine McMMO with Aurelium Skills? is it possible?
you can but why would you do that
golden gust
well, I can't break API because spigot still exists, shamefully
vernal moth
I feel like crap but I may start looking at a command API replacement, even if I...
Sure
quick obsidian
yeah you can't break api compat, but you can deprecate the shit out of everything and abstract into interfaces
foggy silo
Oh this is interesting
The client can control wether or not to use raw player messages or the server formatted message.
golden gust
like, primary thing is that SimpleCommandMap just needs to go
still sorrel
keep existing plugins working but generally, I do wanna encourage sane API more
I mean, cant you just make breaking changes over majors and add polyfills
quasi cave
you can but why would you do that
I'm debating which one would be better to stick with the Vanilla experience, their both great but you're right mixing 2 great things doesn't always mean it's going to be the best experience, was just curious to see, McMMO is def maybe better then if sticking to the vanilla experience I guess, although I'm looking to make the server a vanilla experience with RPG elements
quick obsidian
since it isn't exposed in spigot you can blame plugin devs for reflecting into it?
quick obsidian
I'm debating which one would be better to stick with the Vanilla experience, the...
EcoSkills is what you're looking for however i don't think im allowed to say that because i made it lmfao
turbid oar
Another pic of my cat so adorable 😍
haughty bear
how should you deal with having docs and source code in the same repo? when I checkout to my docs branch, all of my source files are still there - do I add them to .gitignore? it seems like a hacky idea
vernal moth
I mean, cant you just make breaking changes over majors and add polyfills
Sadly not really
This isn't JavaScript
golden gust
Well, when you create a new branch it's gonna like, just take over from the existing branch
you can create a new empty branch, however
haughty bear
yeah, I made an orphaned branch and have docusaurus on it. so I have .docusaurus in docs branch .gitignore, but whenever I checkout to main it has that .docusaurus which isn't .gitignore'd
and opposite issue the other way round - .gradle is ignored on main but not on docs
quick obsidian
could probably work with git submodules... somehow
golden gust
oh, yea, anything not tracked by git is just gonna be 100% ignored
quick obsidian
i do want to integrate my plugin docs with the source code for me
golden gust
adding it to gitignore will ofc ignore it, but, switching branches is gonna leave that stuff sitting around
probs best to just clone that branch out in another folder if you wanna keep it clean
best option is generally to just have a seperate repo for docs
quick obsidian
you could make some pain in the ass monorepo but that's probably gonna cause more problems than it solves
haughty bear
I'd rather not have a docs repo for every single project I have, though
I could have one docs repo for all of my projects?
golden gust
toss them in a folder
quick obsidian
that's what i do
https://plugins.auxilor.io hosts all the docs for over 10 different projects
quick obsidian
sure do but i just let jitpack deploy them
haughty bear
I want to deploy them to gh pages, but I don't know how I'd do that with one docs repo
haughty bear
https://github.com/Auxilor/auxilor.github.io/
also about that, you're using docusaurus, how can you only enable the docs feature without the landing page?
quick obsidian
uh i forget how i did that it's in the docs somewhere
just poke around in the repo ig
haughty bear
I don't see the javadocs here
unreal pike
wait seriously?
worthy geode
April 1st
But he did sell the NFT
void void
now the question is arch or fedora
worthy geode
Windows smh
void void
i want as minimalistic as possible
unreal pike
🤦♂️
void void
naa i dont wanna start a rant about linux vs windows im just giving a video and if they wanna watch it they watch it
magic river
I still use Ubuntu on servers though 😄
CentOS kind of died and Fedora isn't suitable for servers so...
magic river
afaik you can unless discord's AI thinks they're porn
magic river
128 days of uptime either means you're using one of those live patching services or you're running with known vulnerabilities
brave mountain
Arch if is only a personal pc
worthy geode
im sorry to tell you the naked truth but microsoft is spying on you
Oh no, they know what games I play and who I send stupid memes to, tragic
brave mountain
Otherwise Ubuntu
smoky cloud
Is there even a livepatch service for Debian?
magic river
I don't think so?
void void
either way i restarted it today because having such a uptime it can't be non problematic
magic river
I know Canonical has one for Ubuntu and I think others do to, there are some for RHEL, and Oracle has one for their RHEL fork
smoky cloud
Oracle supports Oracle, RHEL, and Ubuntu
void void
Oh no, they know what games I play and who I send stupid memes to, tragic
its not the only thing, 20 years ago people were warning about the tpm chips and stuff. so its really more about "you dont own your pc" rather the spying problem
worthy geode
I could not care less tbh
I can play games, I can develop stuff, I can do uni work. it works. thats all I need
its not like they own my life or something lol
void void
you can play games on linux too if thats your argument about why linux desktop is bad
haughty bear
lol
worthy geode
Yeah, like half of them because anti-cheat
haughty bear
i cant even run sandstorm on linux
haughty bear
nor tarkov
golden gust
I mean, the reality is is that people don't give a shit
if your OS isn't tryna spy on you 200 other things are
worthy geode
I prefer having a system that works out of the box, were I don't need to spend half of the time fiddling with stuff to get it working
haughty bear
I prefer having a system that works out of the box, were I don't need to spend h...
tbf linux does also have things like that; manjaro is quite nice (I'm biased)
void void
I prefer having a system that works out of the box, were I don't need to spend h...
there are linux distros that work out of the box
worthy geode
Yeah, as long as you don't want to do something exotic like connecting bluetooth headphones
haughty bear
but, the spying argument is moot: your phone exists
haughty bear
Yeah, as long as you don't want to do something exotic like _connecting bluetoot...
I can do that just fine
haughty bear
https://github.com/arindas/manjarno
🥱
golden gust
Linux is great until shit goes sideways
and then you're either reinstalling your OS, or
step 1) open a terminal
worthy geode
Ubuntu on my laptop did not like that without replacing some bluetooth system thingy first
haughty bear
seems to be hit and miss then; I haven't had really any issues with a bluetooth headset
golden gust
bluetooth and linux is often kinda shakey as the bluetooth adapters themselves are kinda shit
void void
Ubuntu on my laptop did not like that without replacing some bluetooth system th...
ubuntu is trash just don't
golden gust
and then the userspace BT apps are kinda shit
void void
ubuntu desktop*
worthy geode
As soon as it starts with "run this and that command" to do something that just works on Windows, thats a big no for me
Linux is great for servers, but anything else. big meh
void void
As soon as it starts with "run this and that command" to do something that just ...
because you're afraid of the terminal by that hollywood films you watched
haughty bear
for development I really do quite like linux, package managers and terminal is nice
worthy geode
because you're afraid of the terminal by that hollywood films you watched
Im literally not, ive been administrating linux servers for a few years by now
I still prefer Windows for my Desktop
haughty bear
and ricing obviously, my desktop looks quite nice
brave mountain
They changed their weird behavior in 22.04
haughty bear
but for everything else, windows just works
brave mountain
But I use fedora
golden gust
One day, there will be a linux mainliner who can accept that windows users for the most part can't care less about the OS they run or can't be fucked to invest the time into running a linux desktop
one day
void void
Linux is great for servers, but anything else. big meh
okay you made me pull the power card: android is based on linux
there i said it
brave mountain
Linux server != Linux desktop
worthy geode
okay you made me pull the power card: android is based on linux
Yes, but Google added lots and lots of convenience stuff to make it actually usable for the average user
smoky cloud
Isn't macOS based on an old BSD release?
cunning raft
whatever same idea
brave mountain
id recommend macos over a pure linux machine
🤑
golden gust
android uses the linux kernel, yes; but the entire userspace is literally different
on locked down hardware which is vendor tested, etc
Like, android is literally the exact opposite of linux desktop
worthy geode
Like, its just user experience. If I want to install something on Windows, I either download and double click an .exe or use the store.
On linux systems, if you are lucky its running one command. If you are not, you need to add apt sources, download a .deb or similar file (and mark it as executable first) etc. its just way more complicated
haughty bear
linux can have the strangest issues. I couldn't get into my desktop once and hung on the login splash, because I had installed kwin-low-latency, and an update broke it
void void
oh sorry i forgot, windows has a package manager you don't have to go to a shady website and download shitty deb files or rpm files that might infect your computer with virus
brave mountain
Like, its just user experience. If I want to install something on Windows, I eit...
At costs of security...
haughty bear
if you have any experience with the internet you won't be getting a virus
haughty bear
this isn't much of an argument, more of a rant
haughty bear
I'm aware, but I don't know if you can call it an argument if you change the topic every other message
worthy geode
At costs of security...
Of course, but the best security you would get by not connecting to the internet at all. But that would also result in the worst user experience when installing stuff
golden gust
I mean, the security argument of trusted stuff only works when you stick to the main distros repos
haughty bear
Of course, but the best security you would get by not connecting to the internet...
install apps by sending the binary using IPoAC
golden gust
as soon as you get to anything like the AUR that argument goes out the window
brave mountain
Do you use 3rd party antivirus on windows?
worthy geode
no
golden gust
Nope
brave mountain
You are good
golden gust
I mean, I rarely use windows, but most AV software these days is useless
brave mountain
I use dual boot btw
void void
okay lets stop that more of a rant thing if you wanna use a toy os use windows if you want something that is better go linux that is it.
brave mountain
But in a two separate drives
void void
back to my main question: arch or fedora
worthy geode
At least you can play games with a Toy OS
golden gust
depends on what you're doing
haughty bear
can gpu passthrough using a hypervisor bypass eac?
it seems like the best compromise between a dualboot and wine
void void
At least you can play games with a Toy OS <:kekw:674093681963302933>
bet i can start cs:go, cs 1.6, minecraft and even gta v (have to download gta v first though cuz i don't play it anymore)
haughty bear
start sandstorm please
cunning raft
play a valorant match
worthy geode
play Star Citizen please
at least Apex now works, but just because Valve is pushing the steam deck
haughty bear
also; hades doesn't even run for me on linux, even though it's apparently got quite good support on linux (no native build though)
brave mountain
back to my main question: arch or fedora
If you're asking here use fedora
No experience = no arch
void void
play a valorant match
never played valorant and i'd probably won't play it. its a mesh of cs:go overwatch and LoL if you ask me
golden gust
deflection
haughty bear
and that's not what the discussion is about at all
worthy geode
tbf, in case of Apex, "works" is a bit of an overstatement. Its quite laggy and you get weird mouse jumps
void void
steam deck is a win-win situation here
worthy geode
which you can probably fix by running five commands in terminal, but I can't be bothered to do that if I just want to play a game lol
urban depot
i ran linux for a while and still have endeavouros dual booted with win 10 but just went back to win 10 for compatability
and idk why but i jsut prefer windows
haughty bear
I don't mind windows 11's new ui theme (shoot me)
golden gust
I used to main windows, but, then I needed stuff like word for college which was a PITA otherwise
worthy geode
also, personally, I never found a linux desktop that looked and felt good to me. That is very subjective of course, but that was my impression
golden gust
I mean, main linux
haughty bear
I quite like the centered taskbar and rounded edges
urban depot
i hate win 11. I had it for a long miserable time
worthy geode
I don't mind windows 11's new ui theme (shoot me)
I like it as well. But I moved the taskbar to the old place
also, the right-click menu sucks and that you need to change the registry to revert is annoying
haughty bear
also, personally, I never found a linux desktop that looked and felt good to me....
out of curiosity what have you tried?
golden gust
I got tired of tryna mess with the UI to make it look respectable, gnome 3 pissed me off, unity pissed me off even more; and this was before stuff like i3 seemed to be the latest hipster trend, etc
urban depot
I think the rounded edges make it harder for me to just push my mouse into the corner to press start becaause if they go too far they don't focus on start
void void
I don't mind windows 11's new ui theme (shoot me)
pt 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dePr2PPT898
pt 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GBs1GapIvw
please watch kthx
urban depot
and the animations feel very slow
golden gust
I mean, literally irrelevant
Literally 0 surprise that windows 11 is a basterdisation over 10
for the most part, it literally doesn't affect end users except people more involved with IT
worthy geode
out of curiosity what have you tried?
Gnome, Budgie and KDE Plasma