general

[wraith trail]

his iq got too high, so he left this channel

[void void]

We are just shit-chatting

[golden gust]

He a friendeno who, what sulu said, just, am not sure IQ has anything to do with it

[potent wedge]

Give best estimate I want a 5 paragraph essay

[void void]

I need

Ideas

To plugin

:c

[potent wedge]

Plugin that manipulates status and handshake packets

[ripe sphinx]

a plugin that
prevents
people
from
typing
like
this

[brave mountain]

match \n*3 = ban

[void void]

Chat is too ez to manipulate

[potent wedge]

I.replace('/n', ' - ')

[ripe sphinx]

[golden gust]

!mute

[thorny flicker]

Command mute requires 3 argument(s) (<user:user|snowflake> <duration:str> <reason:str...>) passed 0

[void void]

Oh shit

Dont underestimate His power

[brave mountain]

Eraserrr

[ripe sphinx]

hello warship, how are you today

[golden gust]

My irc thingy has a more fun one

[limber knot]

is getting out the ban hammer! ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▋ Ò╭╮Ó

[brave mountain]

is that the bot that shots intercontinental ballistic missiles to ban people?

[brave mountain]

lol

I hate guns

[potent wedge]

Smh Easy just grab my Henry huntsman and shoot it out of the sky, worked on the neighbors missiles

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N75C4ffFM3o 'MURICA

[void void]

Oh No xDDDD

[potent wedge]

As a American can verify I have a safe full of guns

[brave mountain]

cat has a yt video for just everything

[void void]

Mc Donald special force

[void void]

Pretty much

I just use this

[potent wedge]

Lol

[void void]

Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up (Official Music Video) / Rick Astley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

[potent wedge]

https://youtu.be/Brq586SgZBk

[brave mountain]

people who think they speak Japanese just because they watch anime

[golden gust]

One day, I'm gonna actually like, make a playlist or something of all the random crap which I retain in my brain box

[void void]

Do it

Shit i have too much nudes on my phone

Cant even find memes

Bruh

[potent wedge]

I have too many anime songs

[void void]

My workmate is sleeping

Should i just

Turn on some heavy metal

[brave mountain]

next day
youtube storage analytic department: let's clean up all that shitty videos

[void void]

?

[golden gust]

Yo

reminds me of the death of plug

one dreads to imagine all of the playlists lost that day

[brave mountain]

that noise wrongly called music?

[potent wedge]

Don't play heavy metal play hyperdontia by ghost on youtube

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPwCmhvmHeM

[potent wedge]

NO no, wake them up then play nobody expects the Spanish inquisition

[golden gust]

(light flashy shaky shaky warning)

eilepsy*

or howmever its spellded

[ripe sphinx]

epilepsy

[golden gust]

ha

neeeerd

[ripe sphinx]

nerdcat

[potent wedge]

Why epilepsy warning when it's a extremely smooth transition

[golden gust]

Things got more flashes than woodys phone

[potent wedge]

Dead cxaht

Wait I did something and this happened```so rare

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????????????

Explain

Revive chat

Dammit

[left swift]

what

[brave mountain]

free nitro?

where ?

[sage vessel]

Be careful... I get auto kick muted for talking of free nitros

[potent wedge]

Okay it's not either though so kkt

[void void]

Nah, he woke up, got phonecall

Aaaand coming back home

Yeah

[vernal moth]

I mean, I had free lunch yesterday

[coarse lily]

At work?

[warm anchor]

no Mini cleaerly go to the back of his local pizza place and wait for the employee to throw out pizza

[coarse lily]

Throw out pizza into his mouth

[vernal moth]

Onboarded new coworker and we didn't like menu in canteen so we went to the pizza place across the street but their card reader was broken and I left my purse in office ^^

[warm anchor]

so I am half correct

[vernal moth]

Yes 😂

[warm anchor]

Mini showing the new blood the way

[vernal moth]

Hey I was surprised how easy onboarding was. He had a RFID card, was allowed to enter building, the laptop was there, only took half a day to get him access to teams, etc ^^

Today only outlook is missing and then we can go to install all the dev tooling

We had new hires wait weeks for a laptop

[warm anchor]

that's nice and smooth

[kind agate]

how do you guys meet other people in minecraft

like how do people make connections with people who are in the server community

you know what i mean

like say i wanna start doing dev for a server and stuff how do i make the connections

[merry talon]

your what

[mental meadow]

My new glasses have a blue filter and honestly it's so nice on the eyes i didn't expect it

[vernal moth]

What word is wrong? Lol

[mental meadow]

Purse probably if I had to guess because unnecessarily gendered words

[mental meadow]

https://twitter.com/PaperPowered/status/1521406117556932608

[still sorrel]

this PR is never getting reviewed

updated the 6 year old codebase to a new major

I constantly have to rebase this shit cause every commit merged in develop usually breaks the tests in this branch

oh ffs a test is already failing

fml

oh ffs senior dev broke some tests

[worn ember]

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[still sorrel]

the tests basically cannot be run currently on develop because they are so slow it'd take over an hour to run

[worn ember]

i dont see the issue

[still sorrel]

I mean before releasing its doable to run all the tests

but cant just take a 1h break because tests are running

dawlkfjhads;lfh;asfdh
losing my braincells

please update the friggin tests before you merge to develop

[vernal moth]

What's the proper word for that in English?

Why are you rebasing all the time grey? Only rebase if you have a go for merge

Else you just wasting time

[quasi valley]

wallet

[vernal moth]

Right

That has pretty bad connotation in my head cause crypto bullshit I guess that's why I don't naturally use it, lol

[wet storm]

Another victim of crypto things 😩

[ashen cliff]

Daily reminder that running a full memtest on a 2TB system is fun.

[wet storm]

Ah, yes, daily reminder that I need a breakfast

I forgor 💀

[worn ember]

Daily reminder that oxygen kills in an average of 78 years

[void void]

In Dutch it's literally called zuurstof!

Coincidence? I think not

[wet storm]

Verschrikkelijk

[wet storm]

The word describes itself

[void void]

is there a way to start a new "latest.log"
without reloading server

[violet spear]

py script op

[primal solar]

For me, I used minehut(server hosting with an open market and stuff) to build up a decent resume and then just go onto mc market

[ashen cliff]

Wait for midnight.

[brave mountain]

I haven't used vanilla in a while, has it always been this simple or is it something new?

[mental meadow]

I'm not really sure what exactly you mean, that looks completely normal to me

[brave mountain]

paper 1.18.2: logged in with entity id 173 at ([world]-2128.300000011921, 63.5625, 923.5728583549557)

world and exact coordinates

[silver nexus]

It’s been like that for as long as I’ve been running servers (3-4 years)

[brave mountain]

paper is more verbose, nice

[cobalt flame]

Hi, we sometimes have a TPS between 16 and 17 with about 70-80 players with an AMD Ryzen 9 5950X. Do you think it's worth upgrading to an i9-12290k since it has 23% better single core performance or does it depend on other specs too?

[lament patio]

Not worth it, way high cost for small gains and you'll also lose a bunch of cores

[spare venture]

definitely not worth it

optimize your server instead, should be able to get 20 tps at that player counts just fine

[cobalt flame]

It just costs 14€ more per month, so i think its okay - we just have 2 servers so the cores are not the problem

[brave mountain]

you can do better with less

[cobalt flame]

Aight, i'll have a look for more optimizing 😄

[spare venture]

yeah it’s probably worse to use a 12900k

[vernal moth]

600W GPU here I come!

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-with-ad102-gpu-rumored-to-ship-with-100-tflops-of-fp32-compute-power

[quick obsidian]

i only have a 650w psu

or 750 i forget

[warm anchor]

Man GPU and space heater for winter!

[brave mountain]

need 2k W PSU

[mossy vessel]

Starting 5k onwards on ebay

[brave mountain]

don't forget the 4k UPS

[civic herald]

What's the command for S P O O N?

[civic herald]

You mean a 3090?

[limber knot]

doesn't the 3090 draw 1000W?

runs

[magic river]

Oh man I hope nvidia gets those spikes under control

Instead the new PSU spec seems to just require PSUs to handle spikes of up to twice their rated wattage

Means your PSU is going to be insanely overbuilt and cost 50% more

lol, Google still has this pullout when you search for hypixel

[rare python]

L

[tender cloud]

I can't find that?

[magic river]

Doesn't matter, it was a hack and a scammer trying to get bitcoin from you

[indigo abyss]

[cedar spade]

Just stumbled across this again lol

https://github.com/mdcfe/VelocityConnect/

[white wren]

Guys

Guest what

[vernal moth]

cleaning up old email accounts

https://i.imgur.com/oDCHGdv.png

zuck being evil like always

I always said something which I would ban users on here for, lol

[magic river]

[ashen cliff]

I'm debugging some random XML BS.
A website started omitting the closing tag for some reason...
I assume it was due to cURL... So I also added wget to the mix...
The tag is still missing, but the prices and descriptions are different between the two.

[viral hornet]

@rare python I don't care either.

[void void]

We're going in. And we're going in hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0eofbOc510

[ashen cliff]

🚪

[vernal moth]

^--- all weebs leave now

[void void]

gud song

[ashen cliff]

Yeah, no.

[void void]

ok this then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAzS9fKvupM

[ashen cliff]

Nah.
Have this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1c2KzJbcGA

[void void]

btw gaining weight sure is hard

eating even tho i dont wanna

[wet storm]

🛌

[ashen cliff]

Drink more.

[void void]

if i drink i will lose my appetite

or did you mean alcohol?

[ashen cliff]

Yeah, no.

Stuff that has a lot of fat/sweets in it.

[void void]

at it this point too much sugar makes me feel bad

im sensitive to sugar

[magic river]

Eat McDonalds a lot

[void void]

not rich

rn im eating chicken

[magic river]

Put 3x more butter on things than you think would be reasonable

Isn't chicken the leanest meat you could eat?

[void void]

i dont like butter

[void void]

but its delicious and has protein

[magic river]

Are you trying to bulk up or put on weight?

[void void]

i also have shoarma meat but the chicken's expiration date was today

[void void]

both

[ashen cliff]

Not how it works.

[void void]

i look like an anorexic person so at this point anything works

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/gYd0X77.png

am literally evil

[void void]

i think digger will like this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7Ex5Dyq-4s

[left swift]

[frank otter]

don't tell cat or else he'll literally make himself unpingable

[vernal moth]

we didn't get it to block quote replies

so its useless

[frank otter]

shame

does this mean I can ping you

[vernal moth]

I deactivated the rule, lol

[frank otter]

yay, free ping zone!

[vernal moth]

try me 😄

🔨

[left swift]

ping deez nuts

[frank otter]

there are three people in this server with the name "deeznuts" or some variation thereof

or well that's all my client will load

[vernal moth]

https://twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1521540727557218309?t=otqcevw8HaEbiGW8iSr_eQ&s=19

Twitter Safety (@TwitterSafety)

Some Tweets are for everyone & others are just for people you’ve picked.

We’re now testing Twitter Circle, which lets you add up to 150 people who can see your Tweets when you want to share with a smaller crowd.

Some of you can create your own Twitter Circle beginning today!

Likes

1334

Retweets

535

▶ Play video

Twitter · May 3, 2022, 5:22 PM

Circles

Really

Google+ flashbacks intensify

I guess it's still more useful than communities

[foggy veldt]

I don’t understand the purpose, if it’s private it should be group chat imo if it’s public I think the new community shit is fine

[golden gust]

I mean, it's interesting, but, 150 seems potentially limiting, but, idk

I mean, the tech community is one that am aware of in which theres a huge set of polorisation in what people do

Some people tweet heavily about tech stuff, but, also wanna be able to tweet out non tech stuff, i.e. family stuff, without being attacked by peeps because "how dare you celebrate your family, I just wanna hear about tech, unsub"

[warm anchor]

Oh yes. Echo chamber intensifies

[little frost]

pretty sure this is just streamlining the fact that people already have two accounts, one of which is private

[vernal moth]

Exactly

It's just for the private friends account thing

[foggy veldt]

Yea but I don’t think private accounts are because they only want 150 people to see their tweets, it’s mainly to separate shitposts from their normal posts

[magic river]

Google+ circles was the best part about it

You could have friends, family, work colleagues, etc all on one profile then then filter posts to different groups, filter what feed you were looking at, etc

[tropic flame]

first thought i had: "just have a second, private account?"

Instagram also figured something out with Stories by adding "close friends" when people were already using second accounts for that

now they add people to their close friends's second account... for some reason

kind of weird

[magic river]

And of course circles could overlap, you could have some work colleagues and family in your friends group, etc

Or just make a post that everyone can see

It was like gmail tagging but for outgoing stuff too

[stuck lynx]

@dry geyser @finite quartz @cosmic mountain

[foggy veldt]

I think you can do this with lists, don’t get me wrong circles isn’t a bad concept it’s just the 150 people cap that I don’t understand just add a blacklist/whitelist for people you want to see your specific tweet and people you don’t want to see your specific tweet

[warm anchor]

Tbf isn’t there a research that one wouldn’t have more than X amount of friends in their life time anyway (?)

[ashen cliff]

Yeah, but it doesn't factor in antisocial people. /s

[magic river]

ooh it looks like https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/424 might make it for java 19

[vernal moth]

Oh preview is last step before final?

But two previews are possible too I guess

[ancient bolt]

Should be done before next LTS right?

[magic river]

Preview generally means this will be final in a year with little to no changes

But it's almost certainly happening

Sometimes they find a problem big enough to push back the final and do another preview cycle but yeah

[void void]

sometimes i need love

just look at my pfp

[ancient bolt]

honestly G+ was one of the best takes at a social network site for both personal connection (friends, coworkers, etc) and for following notable people / pages. Allowing you to configure how you interacted with both separately, and letting you define what is what and how you want to group everything, frankly it's a shame it didn't take off

I find twitter to be pretty good for following notable people or accounts, but little to no actual social interaction on it with friends. Facebook is admittedly better at that imo, but the ads and algorithm and right-wing infestation makes it a no-go

so really discord is the closest thing I have to social interaction lol I have no friends lolsob

[magic river]

A lot of linux people used G+ as a blog/livejournal replacement

It wasn't just for short messages or whatever

[foggy veldt]

Well I’d argue twitter and is great for making new “friends” because you can find people with similar interests / takes based on their tweets and create an echo chamber group chat for people like you but that is an online relationship like most discord friends. Facebook is great for finding people you interact with in real life because you can match by school, job, city, mutual friends etc

[golden gust]

I mean, it's great for making "friends" within certain bubbles but, extending too far past that just gets too noisy to be useful

[warm anchor]

Yeah I don’t really use other social media aside from discord but I gather all my friends info my server

[ashen cliff]

Same for the Android stuff.
There was a lot of "blogs" on G+ for opensource project updates, since XDA want really that good at it.

[ancient bolt]

G+ is where we got some famous linus rants, in particular the one about HFS

https://www.cio.com/article/251059/linus-torvalds-apples-hfs-is-probably-the-worst-file-system-ever.html

[rare python]

I was bored

[golden gust]

I mean, case insensitivety is such a dumb issue

have adobe fixed their shit yet?

Cos, adobe was literally the only thing primarily holding me back from switching to case sensitive

(and, maybe a few small things here and there where bad code just basically worse because case insensitivity go brrr.... -.- )

[left swift]

the last pokimane emote you'll ever see, the end of an era

[foggy silo]

Gone 😔

[wet storm]

I forgor ☠️

[wet storm]

Wait, hangar hasn't released yet, you still can use pokimane emojis

Btwwwww, Hangar wen? /s

[unkempt drift]

Why? What happened?

[warm anchor]

He left a lot of servers including mine maybe done with Minecraft?

[spare venture]

Couldn’t afford the tier 3 sub fees anymore

[warm anchor]

How much would that be anyway? Tier 3 sub

[foggy veldt]

Impossible, you get burnt out of Minecraft and do other shit but you never quit Minecraft

[warm anchor]

$24.99

Ok

[warm anchor]

There is like one example in Paper that did just that last year…

[foggy veldt]

Minecraft and league are the eternal games that you keep coming back to

[warm anchor]

League

[foggy veldt]

They’ll be back in 2 years like “wow paper changed so much”

[warm anchor]

More like Dota

[latent wing]

does anyone know a plugin that's similar to hypixel skyblock's player profiles? i just need it for specific server dev stuff

[potent wedge]

Mindustry, cosmoteer

Prosperous universe,

Halo

Interstellar oilot

Land air sea warfare

The anime portion of netflix

[primal solar]

why havent caught up on shit

[ripe sphinx]

they left

(nothing poki-related)

[primal solar]

I see

[native wolf]

wait, how did you do that?

probably some dark magic like always with JVM + native stuff

[wet storm]

I have a better thing: https://github.com/maestro-denery/paper-rust-test-plugin

Paper infrastructure setted up with gradle + wrapper around cargo build system

[daring owl]

startmc.sh is down

😭

[upbeat kelp]

G+ ahhh

[rare python]

https://github.com/Peter-Crawley/kotlin-rust-example

[native wolf]

oh God

that's cursed

I like it

[wet storm]

Yeah, imagine making a rust plugin api with that thing as a wrapper around bukkit one 💀 💀 💀

[hexed dragon]

Season Finale for moon knight today. I already watched it, so watch the post-credit scene too.

[wet storm]

What would you recommend for a beggining in a frontend development? Should I learb css things (tailwind, windicss?) Which javascript frameworks would you recommend to learn (react, vue, angular) and what package manager would you recommend?

[glass crag]

I wouldn't touch any libraries like tailwind/react etc to begin with

Learn semantic html, vanilla CSS, vanilla js, then add new things when you feel a need or feel ready to add another component on top

[wet storm]

Web dev looks weird because there is so many things depend on a personal taste

[glass crag]

Pretty much 😀

once you learn a js framework, the others become much easier to pick up

[magic river]

RIP your disk

[void void]

@spiral robin

[silver nexus]

May the 4th be with you all.

[ashen cliff]

This is fine.

[rare python]

https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAM/this-is.gif

[ashen cliff]

Memtest running on Windows: No errors detected.
WHEA: https://posili.me/i/AWzBMjLd-2022-05-04_14-22-35.png

[rare python]

Gonna take a guess... dead ram.

[ashen cliff]

Nope.

Memtest can't detect the errors, since they get corrected. ECC and all that.

[rare python]

Lol

[ashen cliff]

And all the timing are as tight as they can go.

Giving me around a 10% performance improvement. So, that's nice.

Still have to mod the bios, to allow CPU undervolting again.

[untold copper]

maths board exam tomorrow

i die

[wet storm]

Samsung s7 is finer

(1000°C under high load)

[wide chasm]

Quick, what's 1 + 1? /s

[wet storm]

Shops advertisement say that 1 + 1 = 3, so prob 3 /s

[foggy veldt]

One day shoe companies will run out of different color combinations to resell the same shoe

[kind agate]

Nah

[worn ember]

they'll keep doing it as long as people are stupid enough to keep buying them

[worn crest]

They begin to repeat the colours then

[urban carbon]

oraxen or itemsadder? which is better?

[wet storm]

Personally, I developed with IA API, cuz my admin told me to do that, but all these things are bad "architecture" imo. (shortly: shit) if you are a plugin dev, code fabric mods, you'll have more freedom in everything, if you are an admin, use fabric mods, and there are many fabric performance mods like lithium, starlight, or even something experimental, but fast like c2me, so you won't have performance problems like with forge

But oraxen looks better than IA...

[foggy veldt]

Retro Retro 1s

[daring owl]

is it his website or something

[spare venture]

or just make your own

[hexed dragon]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-22w18a

[warm anchor]

Aaaaa

[unkempt drift]

what is

Servers can now define different chat style formats for clients
? is that just using the chat.text translation key in a resource pack?

oh, shouldve just read further down

prob smth defined in server.properties by default I guess

[vernal moth]

Didn't look yet but it's designed for us to change, maybe datapacks?

[dense holly]

sounds like it's different from resource packs

[vernal moth]

You understood me wrong

It's (part of) the system we asked Mojang for when they first presented us the chat signing stuff, it's their solutions for servers to change the chat Format via code

But maybe it will be exported to datapacks

[high mirage]

does this mean the chat plugin as we know it is on the way out?

[vernal moth]

No, chat plugins just need to update

Today basically added a chat format API

Chat formatting will be client side

So less work for chat plugins

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/5gmCMsTE-2022-05-04_19-16-39.png

[tropic flame]

jokes on you tho because 1.8 support

jk but that's nice

although "these are synchronized to clients when they join the server" so you can't change the chat format without everyone rejoining at the end?

if I can't apply my new group prefixes on the fly then I call that a shortcoming imo

[vernal moth]

Wouldn't that be part of the display name or whatever?

Haven't looked at the code yet to see if resending is possible

Something I can bring up with Mojang for sure

Normally registries are frozen, so don't think resending would be possible right now, but they should be easily able to change that for this instance

[spare venture]

mojang please add chat tabs

imagine having all system messages in one tab, local in another, global, private, etc

[warm anchor]

would be nice if UI is modular

[golden gust]

I mean, I'd much rather just use a mod

I mean, it would be nice to replace the chat system with a more contextual system but theres 0 reason for mojang to really get behind that in the scheme of things

it's hard to deliver on stuff they don't have the insights to even really get started on

[warm anchor]

that's true

[spare venture]

that’s true id rather use a mod. mojang pls make it so we can download mods to peoples clients

[void void]

pop os on wayland is so cool that the discord app doesn't start

flameshot can't do screenshots, gr8

even the gnome screenshot app doesn't work

[brave mountain]

use fedora

[tropic flame]

Wayland
that's where you fucked up

runs

[wet storm]

Hmmmm... it's not placed in BuiltInRegistries for some reason, it is placed directly in the Registry class

[vestal jasper]

I've been dreaming of making a fabric mod that tabulates chat

With smth like plugin messaging to add "channels"

[golden gust]

I think that you'd just basically detect if people have said mod

[vestal jasper]

Avoid all of the super clunky mess that is trying to tabulate chat server-side...

Yeah

[golden gust]

and then hijack the outgoing chat packet and replace it with a plugin message which has the chat and context info

[void void]

Let’s make that dream a reality then

[vestal jasper]

I have very little experience with client-sided modding and working with the game's UI though so there's some barriers I'd have to cross

Still sounds fun though

[ripe sphinx]

I remember egg did a stream trying to do that serverside once, looked decent for the users, although I shudder to know what the code looks like

[vestal jasper]

The way cat and I detailed sounds like it'd be super easy to do

not super easy

[ripe sphinx]

not horrible at least

[vestal jasper]

but like, not horrible yeah

[ripe sphinx]

I don't think it'd be too hard to do, iirc chat is just a List<String>, just need to add some buttons and do some swapping

[vestal jasper]

On the server's end it would probably be super easy, on the client end I shutter thinking about

[ripe sphinx]

what about if a client doesn't have the mod though?

[vestal jasper]

no change

If the client doesn't have the mod they should see literally 0 effective change

UX is the goal, I don't want to sacrifice on UX in any way

I don't think I'd want to force users to use this, unless the server itself decides to enforce it if that makes sense

[wet storm]

It is basically a usage of high level mojank's client side apis and not going somewhere deeper...? I think the only issues with that would be mixins for the ChatScreen class to render some parts properly, because iirc ChatScreen rendering is divided into several methods and order of all rendering matters in that case...

[golden gust]

as said, you just hijack the outgoing chat packet if they have the mod installed

I mean, it's more designing the UI and writing the UI

It's not hard per sei, it's just stuff many of us generally haven't bother to deal with

[vestal jasper]

This is a server-focused community so makes sense

[wet storm]

Btw, I am surprised how paper and fabric communities are different, like, we are developing some stuff to the same game, but many plugin devs I know can't develop mods, it confuses me

[vestal jasper]

They're separate skills to some degree

[ripe sphinx]

Completely different API and dev methods

Fabric is much more complex than paper due to the lack of any sort of API, so lots of hacky injection is required

[vestal jasper]

Working with a modded server + vanilla client, vs both being modded

The client has a lot of things which the server doesn't, that you don't get to interact with when making plugins

[golden gust]

Two completely different enviornmnents and standards of doing stuff

[ripe sphinx]

(and again, the lack of any sort of API)

[golden gust]

not to mention, fabric includes a good chunk of work behind the scenes to make doing some of that stuff viable in a shared environment

Biggest win that fabric has is generally the lifecycles of loading stuff, which is what I want for paper at some point

[kind agate]

Yo electronic!

[vestal jasper]

I also just enjoy the relative simplicity of writing plugins vs making mods

[kind agate]

Do you have a m1 Mac

[golden gust]

(same win that forge has, really)

[ripe sphinx]

dear god yes proper lifecycles would be so much better

[golden gust]

No, I have a 2015 iMac

[kind agate]

Oh

Is the performance still good

[golden gust]

Outside of the horrible stuff of paper and 200 vivaldi tabs it's generally good

[kind agate]

Does it run IDEA and all your programs smooth

Vivaldi

Never heard of that one

[golden gust]

it's basically chrome but with a nicer looking UI on the mac, imho, and, well, not google

[kind agate]

Oh

[golden gust]

but, the lifecycles of stuff initing in fabric/forge means that you have the context and time to be able to go register custom things, and then the frameworking to deal with this, i.e. you have the typical mojang hook points that they use for interactions with stuff, on the client, you can write your own rendering logic or use mojangs where suitable, etc, etc

Like, forge/fabric dev is a lot simpler than people thing for the pure reason that mojang actually developed a fairly decent engine to work with

forge/fabric just provide the tools to make working in an environment which is shared with other stuff more tolerable

[kind agate]

Do you wanna upgrade

And can I see a list of programs your running right now

I was thinking bout getting the m1 wit the lg 5k monitor and using that as my work machine you hear me?

It looks nice

[wet storm]

That's why I blame many plugin devs I know, cuz they can't develop mods and they try to do hacks for a plugins to look like mods, it'll be okay if they did a fork of paper where they do stuff with Registries to have benefits of every vanilla possibility and having server-side entities/blocks etc. Which maps to the same packets, but they do their own implementations based on bukkit events or databases, like, damn, if you do a server-side only stuff do it at least cleanly...

[golden gust]

Well, yea, ofc I wanna upgrade, just, when I can actually afford it

I mean, I'm probs gonna go the dock approach in the future, however

Apple's basically made it so that a laptop which you can have on your desk hooked up and can just pick it up and use it all day is actually a viable approach

[kind agate]

wow

what if you get the dock and monitor

then you’ll have two monitors

displays

[golden gust]

Or, hear me out

You buy two monitors

[kind agate]

Then you’ll have three

[golden gust]

I don't particularly want a laptop keyboard as my main typing thing, and so it just seems that it would get in the way

[kind agate]

what about the magic keyboard

[golden gust]

and then, the laptops are generally low down so not good for posture unless you're gonna get something to mount it up in a position that would generally make said mounting hardware take up space

much easier to just get a dock which you can easily throw the thing into/on, and have a proper full sized monitor which is great for actually using daily, with the laptops screen being great for being, well, portable

[kind agate]

What’s your thoughts on the mac studio

Cause bro if I buy that I can just use my windows desktop for gaming

Because then if I get the mac I’ll feel like I’m a real business man

I like macos it’s like the best of both worlds, a nicer UI than windows but it’s also UNIX so the terminal is nicer than windows but it’s also familiar if you’re a linux user

You know what I mean?

Like you know what I’m saying

[golden gust]

I mean, if you're fixed to your desk and got the cash to splash, sure; I'm just personally not sure if theres much worth to it unless you're actually gonna be hammering resources on it

[kind agate]

Hmm

Yeah

I understand wym

[wet storm]

"Only for girls"

I mean, no mutual servers, no anything, just "only for girls"

[spare venture]

you’re gonna hate my server

i basically reimplemented a lot of vanilla mechanics using plugins instead of mods

i don’t really think using plugins to do that is hacky

ok there are some aspects that are kinda hacky but overall it’s pretty clean

[plush bane]

PolyMc (the original) is nice

https://github.com/TheEpicBlock/PolyMc

Patbox had been trying to get Fabric server side Create to work using similar techniques (using Polymer)

It's only a bit hacky

At least I assume it's less hacky than trying to do the same thing on Paper

[twin lagoon]

it's all a massive hack in the end

[plush bane]

Oh, also, server side Computercraft: https://github.com/PolymerPorts/cc-restitched (very much experimental)

[wet storm]

My opinion is prob too radical but I don't wanna lie people, I think I don't care what people do until it actually touches me in some way, like youtubers / admins / developers I worked with told me develop servers with the vanilla + additional mechanics in their environments (ItemsAdder API, their own teams' APIs, which are also hacky, etc.) And I see all suffer from what I experienced in the "mods made with plugins" culture, and now, when I ended developing anything for these people, I wanna change something about this stuff at least in russian dev community...

[plush bane]

True

[void void]

hey... ehh.. can anyone give me some good free aternos like websites?

i dont use minehut felixnodes server.pro

[wet storm]

Prob I also have a lot of grammar issues but I don't wanna use translators too much because in this case I'll never learn english...

[plush bane]

I'd be wary of sites like Aternos, use a at least kind of unique email adress for them. You don't want your mail address finding its way into spam lists like it happened with mine due to the Aternos data leak back in 2016. (I hadn't been using them for years at that point)

[void void]

can you reccomend one not aternos or something

[lavish compass]

no good free hosting sites are good

you can however abuse oracle cloud™️ free tier though

[wet storm]

™️

[warm anchor]

Oracle Free tier is so far the only decent free host, but yeah everything else promising being free MC host are probably going to be trash

[plush bane]

Yeah, "free Minecraft hosting" just isn't really a sustainable business model

[spare venture]

ya you get what you pay for

[golden gust]

it's sustainable, it's just none traditional and harder to figure out how to keep afloat

biggest one I've seen is the platforms which are practically rip offs, the free resources work for getting stuff done but you're generally too limited in what you can do

[lavish compass]

I mean shared hosts are extemely cheap anyways

[golden gust]

and then when you wanna do anything, i.e. take your files out, you have to pay for a service which is multiple times the market rate just to walk out

[merry talon]

also it just warms the heart to exploit oracle to the highest extent you can

[void void]

i just wanna play with my friends

[warm anchor]

There are business model that works for free host yeah

[golden gust]

hypickles mini server things?

minehut? etc

I mean, it's not free to host a server

[warm anchor]

but outside of Aterno and minehut they aint other notiable one for sure

[lavish compass]

like quackhost

crypto miner in panel

[merry talon]

mfw

[golden gust]

so, it's 0 surprise that free services are generally very rare and "fun" in how they're funded with various limitations or fuck you over when you wanna leave

using a cheapo VPS or even a free one like oracle offers is gonna be your best bet for a "free" solution

[warm anchor]

Aternos utilize the large player base for advertising so does minehut though they approach it differently in details

[lament patio]

Oh, yeah, speaking of, my instance got terminated for the 5th time the other day lol

[warm anchor]

and here I am with same instance in Ashburn since May 2021 and still not have a single issue

it's really luck based

lol

[lavish compass]

i think you need to like

log in to your account every once in a while

[lament patio]

I do every 15 days, I have reminders set up

[merry talon]

are they like ec2 spot instances?

[lament patio]

They should be permanent as long as you log in often enough

[warm anchor]

oh yeah I use it a lot

so I probably look like a normal user in terms of whatever detection they use

to remove peopl whos just holding a free instance

[plush bane]

I selfhost and (currently) don't worry about my IP getting exposed. Apart from not having to worry about theoretically getting DDOSed does hiding your IP achieve anything?

[warm anchor]

not really if you are open to people to connect to you, they can get to you anyway

[plush bane]

Whoops, meant using a VPS instead of self hosting

[plush bane]

Wat

[wet storm]

💀

[vagrant marlin]

lets cancel eternity

[wet storm]

make the same thing about furry communities

[warm anchor]

LOL

dont you just love the shenanigans

[charred sleet]

https://paste.ollieee.xyz/itadoyohaj.json
Has anyone seen this data format before - i imagine its propriatory but just thought id check

[rare python]

Is there any better way of doing this, this code is painful.

if (chunkSnapshot.getBlockType(x + 1, y, z).isAir) continue
if (chunkSnapshot.getBlockType(x - 1, y, z).isAir) continue
if (chunkSnapshot.getBlockType(x, y + 1, z).isAir) continue
if (chunkSnapshot.getBlockType(x, y - 1, z).isAir) continue
if (chunkSnapshot.getBlockType(x, y, z + 1).isAir) continue
if (chunkSnapshot.getBlockType(x, y, z - 1).isAir) continue

[spare venture]

bro

[rare python]

At least I am doing it off of the main thread using a chunk snapshot lol

[void void]

i'd turn that into a function so it at least looks nicer

and probably consolidate that into a single if statement

[rare python]

I dislike peoples obsession with breaking everything into tiny single use functions.

[vernal moth]

It reduces the cognitive complexity of your code and thus makes it easier to read

It's a very good habbit

[rare python]

Until you try to track down a bug and finding yourself jumping between 10 different functions.

[glass crag]

You can make a list of the different parameters and map or firstOrNull depending on how you're using it

[vernal moth]

That's what unit tests are for

If you nicely split code, it's easy to test

[rare python]

Ehhhh maybe, but with such a limited selection, I am not sure there is any benefit.

[golden gust]

yea, that's why you unit test the small shit, setup hard contracts for it, etc

lets you genericify stuff, JIT can unroll that crap if it wants too, etc

[rare python]

I have a habit of spamming the inline keyword in kotlin

[vernal moth]

If you can't understand a method just by glancing on it, it's too complex and should be broken up

That's a good rule of thumb

[lavish compass]

i think you should write that in rust and call it using jni

[wet storm]

^ /s

[rare python]

Yes kotlin but it adds up

[lavish compass]

@Suppress

[rare python]

My 2 most used kotlin keywords are internal and inline

[wet storm]

-Xlint:none /s

[ancient bolt]

inlining methods like that in kotlin accomplishes nothing

the JIT is smarter than you are

[rare python]

If putting inline in front of every function yeilds performance improvements, even slight, then why not do it?

[ancient bolt]

it does not yield performance improvements

[ripe sphinx]

compiler is smart enough to do that already

[static badge]

you know what we need inlined

https://imgur.com/ij95uWn

[ancient bolt]

your single brain cell?

[void void]

the expected impact from doing that would be insignificant

[warm anchor]

Despite Leaf only has one singular brain cell, he would tell you it's a very chunky brain cell

[rare python]

The way I see it, worst case scenario, nothing happens, best case scenario is a very slight improvement, i'll take it.

[foggy silo]

Except there is already technology that does it for you 🙂

And usually, much better!

[ancient bolt]

worst case scenario performance is made worse

due to an overly large stack frame

too many GC roots

[little frost]

multiple inlines can also compound to be even worse

[ancient bolt]

more difficult to fit method variable set into CPU registers, which leads to less optimized generated assembly

stack frame might need to be split across pages

let the JIT optimize this stuff for you, don't try to do it yourself

[spare venture]

i have never heard of in-line in kotlin

what is that

[ripe sphinx]

it'll inline the method

normally you don't need to do it unless you're like using reified or w/ever

[spare venture]

like put it on one line? lol

ohh i googled it

[ripe sphinx]

No, like when it's compiling, it'll replace calls to the method with the method body

[rare python]

If inline can cause issues then they should come up with a better warning, because the current one implies that no harm could come of it.

[ashen cliff]

So, OOP is bad? /s

[spare venture]

i think since you have to go out of your way to do it they probably assume you read up on what it is really doing and the implications

[rare python]

assuming people know what there doing is a bad idea

[spare venture]

you gotta think would they really make a little keyword that somehow optimizes every function

[wet storm]

performance talks are always a 💀...

[foggy silo]

(kotlin)

[golden gust]

I mean, literally EVERY optimisation can cause issues if misused

the general level of expectation around some of this stuff is that you know what you're doing to the point that it's pretty much just minimal

[vernal moth]

If you use advanced language features like that I think it's fair to assume you know the trade offs of inlining

[golden gust]

but, JIT is already pretty damned good at doing this stuff

[rare python]

if it is so good then why is the jvm so slow

[vernal moth]

It's not

It's actually really fucking fast

And it's getting faster with every java release

[little frost]

jit just needs warmup

[vernal moth]

Thruput in G1GC went up 35% since 8, just that alone is noticeable

[spare venture]

where have you noticed the jvm being slow haha

[vernal moth]

The JVM is a marvelous piece of tech

[spare venture]

just like that meme that bedrock is faster because c++ is more “optimized” than java /s

[vernal moth]

You should stop listening to kids barty

[spare venture]

i didn’t say the meme was good

[topaz mortar]

Would you rather use code of a bad Java developer or a bad C++ developer in terms of performance? 😄

[spare venture]

if i’m the customer? it doesn’t make any difference lol

[vernal moth]

It really does

[spare venture]

bad java developer has a lot of padding tho from jvm doing stuff for them

[vernal moth]

C++ makes it super easy to shoot yourself in the foot

[spare venture]

yeah

[rare python]

Yes but does that have any merit, from what I understand c(++) is much faster then the jvm is capable of

[topaz mortar]

Bad C++ code can perform way worse than bad Java Code.

[vernal moth]

Not much

[spare venture]

ok i should’ve put /s but i thought calling it a meme was enough

[spare venture]

yeah i misinterpreted what you were asking

i wouldn’t trust 99.9% of the developers in the java community to write c++ code

[vernal moth]

I think back in java 8 days stuff was around 5% slower than "native"

Might be less nowadays

[spare venture]

it is nice that people are not stuck on java 8 anymore

[vernal moth]

I updated all my apps to 17 the other day at work, really nice

Noticeable faster boot time

(from 11)

[wet storm]

Thinking about JIT while developing is always a pain which you shouldn't care about, like, if I thought about JIT optimizations I'd end up with memory barriers for volatile or similar accesses and thinking about "reorderings" (Which exist only in programmers' head, only a programmer defines what is thread-safety in his program, usually, not in every case thread-safety == linearizability) The only right thing in this case is JMM which is a specification , but JIT, memory barriers, cache coherence and other things is Implementation detail. Example: You don't need much knowledge to use Bukkit API, but you need a lot more knowledge to use NMS instead of Bukkit API, and there is no guarantee that your NMS thing won't break, because its behaviour doesn't specified anywhere...

[vernal moth]

The average java dev does not need to know how the JVM works

Or what inlining is

[golden gust]

I mean, that's the entire point of JIT being powerful

for the most part, you don't need to give a shit

only time when you really do need to start giving a crap about this stuff is when you're doing stuff in which you should probably understand in part how the JVM works here to pull off safely in the first place

The reality of the fact is that most java devs barely understand what mechanisms like JIT even are or do in the thing, because for the most part, it literally doesn't matter

[wet storm]

Aleksey Shipilёv's article about JMM is a good description of many misunderstandings about concurrency in java, yeah, it's not about JIT, but it clearly shows how programs can break if a person will use implementation details without its understanding instead of specs: https://shipilev.net/blog/2016/close-encounters-of-jmm-kind/

[golden gust]

I mean, yea

It's like, literally any platform

if you try to microoptimise without understanding how the platform works it's probs gonna go sideways, in the most collosial of fashion

the reality is though, is that very few devs are micro-op'ing at that level

there is generally very little need to do so and most things just turn into an unmaintainable mess better solved elsewhere

[wet storm]

How did we reach general programming problems from kotlin inlines?...

[wide chasm]

Java itself also has intricate details most people are unfamiliar with. JVM knowledge is generally not really necessary for writing correct programs. Concurrency is hard, that's no surprise, especially if you're going to not use Java's built in classes, but go with raw volatile and synchronized.

[sterile yoke]

[wet storm]

why volatile if VarHandles lower accesses exist, why synchronized if CAS cycle and non-blocking programming exist? /s

I think that concurrency has no scopes in how you can over-engineer it

okay, I need a sleep or I'll die tomorrow morning

[void void]

[wet storm]

imagine not being a git expert in the outside world if you make a paper patch stuff every day

[void void]

ended up just nuking the branch and recreating it

[quiet mesa]

+1

[potent wedge]

me who accidently made C:// a git

[wet storm]

I mean, I accidentialy made home/denery/ a yarn application yesterday

[peak ginkgo]

huge brain backups

[silver nexus]

I have my first AP exam tomorrow… any advice?

[golden gust]

g'won

wait, no

advice I was gonna give is inappropriate and for something else

[cold pumice]

Which test are you taking?
I would suggest reviewing how they score different sections of the exam so you know what they're looking for. Don't try to cram too much, and make sure you get enough sleep. Good luck! 🙂

[silver nexus]

AP Human Geography this year. And will do, thanks!

[cold pumice]

Nice! I don't think that one was an option at my school

[golden gust]

I like trains

[coarse lily]

Me too.

Choo choo.

[brave mountain]

that's why there is no much development on bedrock?

[sterile yoke]

Not used much like Java or forge i guess

[brave mountain]

There isa lot of bedrock players that haven't played java in their entire lives

[vestal jasper]

By development do you mean mods/plugins?

Or like updates

[brave mountain]

And in summer there will be even more as Moj.. Microsoft is planning to give free bedrock to java buyers.

Plugins, at least or custom servers and proxy

[silver nexus]

A lot of bedrock users are on mobile iirc, so that may contribute to the issue too.

[brave mountain]

Indeed

[brave mountain]

Put that on the island of eternity 😆

[warm anchor]

[magic river]

Oh yeah, that reminds me, I got a server for work to run on graal nodejs the other day

It was slow as fuck the first half a dozen times you tried to do anything

But after that it was about the same or faster for everything

I'm assuming the faster was because it did XML parsing faster since the thing I was benchmarking was mostly making a lot of SOAP calls, mapping the results to an ORM entity, and then upserting them

So it was mostly waiting on network things

The only hiccup with getting it to run though was having to polyfill WebAssembly 😄

One of my dependencies (which I should be removing soon anyway) tries to build a native module then falls back to a Rust implementation compiled to wasm and embedded in a string in the JS

[kind agate]

Good job

[magic river]

Apparently GameGear modders are insane. Someone recreated the entire original board (same trace layout and everything) in software, along with all the original parts. Then they simplified it to only work with new LCD screens, improved the trace layout and backplane, and removed 90 components. And then actually made the PCB and sell kits of the board and all but 3 of the components (those you have to salvage from the original)

The only 3 parts that don't come in the kit are the main ASIC (CPU and etc), the game cartridge slot, and the 2 player port

Well, it also doesn't include a case, screen, power board, sound board, etc, this is just the main board

For an LCD mod on the original you have to solder like 10 wires onto pads meant for a ribbon cable, for this it has nicely sized pads meant for manual soldering of wires

https://retrogearcustoms.com/reviews/syf-sega-game-gear-mainboard/

Soldering those chips on still looks like something you wouldn't do with a normal soldering iron though

[golden gust]

doable, tbqh, drag soldering is pretty common in the hobby space for dealing with those chips

Not something you'd wanna do all day if you where dealing with manf'ing such boards, but, doable for a casual hobbist with basic skills, tbqh

[solid siren]

does votifier helps get players?

[golden gust]

Vote sites help you get players

rewarding people for voting is a weird area in the EULA, but, can help encourage people to vote

[coarse lily]

Is it, though?

[lavish compass]

@twin lagoon wake up

[wet storm]

🥱

[void void]

what are the advantages?

also any way I can migrate without losing my home folder? I don't know how can I transfer it to another drive

[untold meadow]

TRUE

[mental meadow]

TIME TO WAKE UP

wake up wake up wake uuuup

3,2,1, lets go

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enYdAxVcNZA

[mental meadow]

cat, just for you

[twin lagoon]

a

[wet storm]

☠️

[vernal moth]

Today company organized beer for everybody after work, so suddenly the office is pretty packed again 😂

Beer!

[golden gust]

eeeeer

[wet storm]

German beer vs belgian beer vs czech beer?

[worn crest]

Netherland beer - change my mind
And German coffee is much cheaper there than in Germany haha

[wet storm]

Dutch actually sounds like deutsch, what's difference?

[worn crest]

The language sounds more kindly than German

Mini says it's drunk german

[wet storm]

I think no, everybody gangsta until you hear g / ch sounds in dutch... german sounds more laconically than dutch for me

[void void]

Looks like copilot adopted my coding style

[stuck lynx]

easiest way to escape police:

\🚓

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbzZNIFfrMk

okay, maybe different clip, am too tired to like, yea

[potent wedge]

Naw its giving you a reply by saying that, it being in your style is just because it's an AI that learns

[golden gust]

Whoosh

[lavish compass]

https://twitter.com/NanoRaptor/status/1520564916629151744

Dana Sibera (@NanoRaptor)

USB-C powered motherboards are the future.

Likes

3096

Retweets

292

Twitter · May 1, 2022, 12:45 AM

[mental meadow]

no

pls

have we not suffered enough

[wide chasm]

That hurts.

Should be a 3.5 mm headphone jack.

[fallen grotto]

EU regulations be drooling

[true canyon]

Surely you'd just need one, maybe two for something ridiculous, USB PD ports for the mobo? Three at most for the cpu? Ten is way too high.

[merry talon]

The rest are for your GTX 69420Ti

[kind agate]

@merry talon did u try ow2 yet

[merry talon]

yeah shits weird

[kind agate]

How’d you get it

I wanna try it even though it looks the exact same

[ashen cliff]

I mean, 12VO exists, 240W USB now exists...

[merry talon]

I just left a stream on and went to work lol

I think that's over now though

I couldn't ever get a sense of like wtf was going on

but that could be a combination of me not playing for months

[kind agate]

Bro they were working on THIS for years

[merry talon]

only in between harassing women and making dead on arrival mobile games

must be tough to balance

[untold meadow]

@lavish compass publish ur stuff on maven central pls

jitpack SUCKS

[twin lagoon]

@lavish compass xxx

[untold meadow]

oh yes

[twin lagoon]

publish https://github.com/Cubxity/AgonesKt on maven central xx

[untold meadow]

also xxxx

[vernal moth]

Freibier!

[wet storm]

bier? Not again.

[worn crest]

so many people and all without mask 💀

[wet storm]

Corona pandemie? Bier >>>> /s

[lavish compass]

maybe perhaps

feel free to PR and steal from UM

[shrewd dirge]

Is there a server side Distant Horizons mod or anything like that? It definitely doesn't work on servers as a client side install.

[worn ember]

so many people at your company lol

[magic river]

No way that's all of them

That might be all of a single department or something

[untold meadow]

@lavish compass how does the health endpoint work?

do i need to make a mutable flow and throw stuff in it whenever i wanna do a healthy call?

[twin lagoon]

@lavish compass

[waxen panther]

best cubxity

[lavish compass]

I'll get back when I'm home

[untold meadow]

thank you best cubxity xoxo

[lavish compass]

@untold meadow ok so basically you just need to provide my lib with a flow of health

val healthFlow = flow {
  while(true) {
    emit(Unit)
    delay(2000)
  }
}

[untold meadow]

ok dope epic nice

[kind agate]

hey

so what’s so good about using k8s for mc servers?

[twin lagoon]

nothing

[kind agate]

like rather than running them the old fashioned way

[twin lagoon]

help

 Exception in thread "DefaultDispatcher-worker-3 @coroutine#458" java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 'boolean com.google.protobuf.GeneratedMessageV3.isStringEmpty(java.lang.Object)'

[untold meadow]

bc it keeps people like michael employed

that is the only reason

[kind agate]

wow nice

[twin lagoon]

so true

[kind agate]

there’s no perf benefits or anything?

[twin lagoon]

no

[kind agate]

Oh thanks

Hope your having a blessed day and getting paid Michael

Life’s good

[lavish compass]

show your buildscript

[twin lagoon]

yeah well

idk about that

[lavish compass]

so you can put "cloud-native engineer" in your portfolio

[lavish compass]

[void void]

top secret noxcrew buildscripts

[lavish compass]

just ask your boss to break the NDA

it's finneeeee

[rose lion]

Just a little wouldn't hurt

[untold meadow]

i mean we're not reaaallly doing anything more complex then publishing ur thingy to our maven repo then shadow jar-ing it in

[twin lagoon]

well it's not really just a build script when 90% of it is done by an internal gradle plugin

[lavish compass]

did you add something like

runtimeOnly("io.grpc", "grpc-netty", "1.37.0")

[untold meadow]

i switched them both to grpc-okhttp and shaded that in too

didn't runtimeOnly it though

[lavish compass]

can you show your dependency graphs or something

[lavish compass]

buildSrc

[untold meadow]

what would you be looking for?

|    +--- dev.cubxity.libs:AgonesKt:0.1.3
|    |    +--- org.jetbrains.kotlin:kotlin-bom:1.6.10 -> 1.6.21
|    |    |    +--- org.jetbrains.kotlin:kotlin-stdlib:1.6.21 (c)
|    |    |    +--- org.jetbrains.kotlin:kotlin-stdlib-jdk7:1.6.21 (c)
|    |    |    +--- org.jetbrains.kotlin:kotlin-stdlib-jdk8:1.6.21 (c)
|    |    |    +--- org.jetbrains.kotlin:kotlin-stdlib-common:1.6.21 (c)
|    |    |    +--- org.jetbrains.kotlin:kotlin-reflect:1.6.21 (c)
|    |    |    +--- org.jetbrains.kotlin:kotlin-scripting-jvm-host:1.6.21 (c)
|    |    |    +--- org.jetbrains.kotlin:kotlin-scripting-jvm:1.6.21 (c)
|    |    |    +--- org.jetbrains.kotlin:kotlin-script-runtime:1.6.21 (c)
|    |    |    \--- org.jetbrains.kotlin:kotlin-scripting-common:1.6.21 (c)
|    |    +--- io.grpc:grpc-bom:1.45.1
|    |    |    +--- io.grpc:grpc-core:1.45.1 (c)
|    |    |    +--- io.grpc:grpc-okhttp:1.45.1 (c)
|    |    |    +--- io.grpc:grpc-protobuf:1.45.1 (c)
|    |    |    +--- io.grpc:grpc-stub:1.45.1 (c)
|    |    |    +--- io.grpc:grpc-api:1.45.1 (c)
|    |    |    +--- io.grpc:grpc-protobuf-lite:1.45.1 (c)
|    |    |    \--- io.grpc:grpc-context:1.45.1 (c)
|    |    +--- org.jetbrains.kotlin:kotlin-stdlib:1.6.10 -> 1.6.21 (*)
|    |    +--- org.jetbrains.kotlinx:kotlinx-coroutines-core:1.6.0 (*)
|    |    +--- io.grpc:grpc-protobuf -> 1.45.1
|    |    |    +--- io.grpc:grpc-api:1.45.1
|    |    |    |    +--- io.grpc:grpc-context:1.45.1
|    |    |    |    +--- com.google.code.findbugs:jsr305:3.0.2
|    |    |    |    \--- com.google.errorprone:error_prone_annotations:2.10.0 -> 2.11.0
|    |    |    +--- com.google.code.findbugs:jsr305:3.0.2
|    |    |    +--- com.google.protobuf:protobuf-java:3.19.2 -> 3.19.4
|    |    |    +--- com.google.api.grpc:proto-google-common-protos:2.0.1
|    |    |    |    \--- com.google.protobuf:protobuf-java:3.13.0 -> 3.19.4
|    |    |    \--- io.grpc:grpc-protobuf-lite:1.45.1
|    |    |         \--- io.grpc:grpc-api:1.45.1 (*)
|    |    +--- io.grpc:grpc-kotlin-stub:1.2.1
|    |    |    +--- io.grpc:grpc-stub:1.36.0 -> 1.45.1
|    |    |    |    +--- io.grpc:grpc-api:1.45.1 (*)
|    |    |    |    \--- com.google.guava:guava:31.0.1-android -> 31.0.1-jre (*)
|    |    |    \--- javax.annotation:javax.annotation-api:1.3.2
|    |    +--- com.google.protobuf:protobuf-java-util:3.19.4
|    |    |    +--- com.google.protobuf:protobuf-java:3.19.4
|    |    |    +--- com.google.guava:guava:30.1.1-android -> 31.0.1-jre (*)
|    |    |    +--- com.google.errorprone:error_prone_annotations:2.5.1 -> 2.11.0
|    |    |    +--- com.google.j2objc:j2objc-annotations:1.3
|    |    |    +--- com.google.code.findbugs:jsr305:3.0.2
|    |    |    \--- com.google.code.gson:gson:2.8.6 -> 2.8.9
|    |    \--- com.google.protobuf:protobuf-kotlin:3.19.4
|    |         +--- com.google.protobuf:protobuf-java:3.19.4
|    |         \--- org.jetbrains.kotlin:kotlin-stdlib:1.5.0 -> 1.6.21 (*)
|    +--- io.grpc:grpc-okhttp:1.45.1
|    |    +--- io.grpc:grpc-core:1.45.1
|    |    |    \--- io.grpc:grpc-api:1.45.1 (*)
|    |    \--- com.squareup.okhttp:okhttp:2.7.4
|    |         \--- com.squareup.okio:okio:1.6.0 -> 2.8.0 (*)

idk if there's anything interesting inhere

[lavish compass]

ok so you added grpc-okhttp directly to ArgonesKt

[untold meadow]

just switched the runtimeOnly bit yeah

[lavish compass]

to what

[untold meadow]

to okhttp instead of netty

[lavish compass]

ah yeah uh

[lavish compass]

maybe try adding runtimeOnly part directly in your project?

not ArgonesKt

[untold meadow]

alright ill give it a go

[untold meadow]

nope same issue

[lavish compass]

weird..

[untold meadow]

is the file meant to be shaded from some lib or is it generated?

[twin lagoon]

protobufs are a mistake gonna be real with you chief

[untold meadow]

could it be something fucky wucky with our publishing?

@lavish compass it's weird

it works

like perfectly

still getting that error

[little frost]

codegen 😔

[untold meadow]

narrowed down the issue

it's specifically in the setAnnotation stuff

[twin lagoon]

annotations are not bussin

[untold meadow]

anno(t working)tations

[lavish compass]

annotations not bussin

[silver nexus]

AP exam was better than expected, though I say that now and will probably have missed a third of the questions…

[lavish compass]

@twin lagoon We need the "Cubxity Minecraft stack"

[twin lagoon]

no

[lavish compass]

yes

@warm anchor

[warm anchor]

[quasi valley]

[twin lagoon]

kenny is a german weeb by nature

[quasi valley]

I'm not gonna let a closet weeb call me names

[lavish compass]

is michael a closet weeb?

[untold meadow]

"closet"

[quasi valley]

well you can also argue he's just a normal weeb, but that's my theory

[lavish compass]

[mental meadow]

does anyone of you know if there is a setting in Windows 11 that removes the "show more" arrow thingy from your taskbar icons? Mine is suddenly gone and I miss it dearly

[ripe sphinx]

this thing? https://f.u11.io/6suWHS

[mental meadow]

yea

very likely that i also just messed with something and it doesnt like me now

[kind agate]

Can we remove that whole new context menu

It’s really the only thing I’m not liking about Win11 right now but I’ve only been on it for like a day

[warm anchor]

Can I run windows 11 but exactly looking like win 10?

[mental meadow]

https://winaero.com/how-to-enable-full-context-menus-in-windows-11/

[warm anchor]

I really hate the minimized design it’s annoying

[brave mountain]

nasty the leak of full context menu, but I still prefer not doing much workarounds

i really hate the new star menu, too simple and that recently viewed is anti-privacy 😡

[vernal moth]

Mfw just IT company has 600 people, at campus we over 2k

[worn ember]

im probably gonna work at a company with like 35 people lol

[quick obsidian]

whats a good way to stress test mc servers

for player numbers

[lavish compass]

https://github.com/Cubxity/stresscraft

this will just make them spam join though

and load chunks

it won't really do much else

[quick obsidian]

that sounds like pretty much what im looking for

tf im building it and its not shading kotlin in

nvm had to manually shadowJar

oh it doesn't connect

nvm

[brave mountain]

I want to list files on a directory by neme, no matter the files names but I got an error

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/72bc20c0f219486db837683646ba0167

[wide chasm]

What error are you getting?

[brave mountain]

} catch (Exception e) {
                System.out.println("Error de entrada");
                error = true;

first file is not aliened

[cobalt cave]

stay on windows 10 then lol

[brave mountain]

I'm on fedora

[lavish compass]

fedora gang

[lavish compass]

mod developer not knowing how to build a project 101

/s

[quick obsidian]

nah i always stick build.dependsOn shadowJar into my build.gradle

i like running gradlew build and getting everything done

couldn't get it to work unfortunately, it just didn't connect (yes i followed all the steps)

[lavish compass]

why didn't it connect?

what kind of server is it

[quick obsidian]

not a clue it just flickered between 0/1 and never got anywhere

pufferfish, pretty normal paper fork (just with flare built in)

tried with the domain ip and the ipv4

nothing

[lavish compass]

can u dm me the args you used

[quick obsidian]

sure

[void void]

i wanted to buy a ps cuz cheaper than a pc but out of stock

[quasi cave]

I guess tutorials for other project apply to PaperMC too? like installing the Plan plugin?

[void void]

@cosmic raft I am once again asking for write access in #adorable-pets

Also Snapchat suggested you to me saying I should add you as a friend

[potent wedge]

Can I get perms to #adorable-pets

[spare venture]

plan is a bad plugin

[ripe sphinx]

guess which one is PLAN :)
https://f.u11.io/KW2guO

(red line is my alert threshold...notice how it's consistently above it...)

[unkempt drift]

They have to be adorable tho…. 😈

[spare venture]

why is doggos not dogs then

[silver nexus]

A debate me and some friends are having. Should Computer Science classes count towards foreign language credits?

[true canyon]

Does learning a programming language allow you to communicate with others who you couldn't before?

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tvy_Pbe5NA

There is a communication in C in the middle of there

[spare venture]

why the fuck would it count toward foreign language credit

[warm anchor]

This is not a debate. It’s a no

[spare venture]

i don’t see a programming language satisfying any of the reasons foreign languages are taught

[golden gust]

any of the reasons

1. get the credits needed to leave

2. be able to preach that you know some language nobody in the rest of the world gives a shit about

[spare venture]

fair

[silver nexus]

thats the main reason

[spare venture]

math is a foreign language to some

[silver nexus]

a lot of people used to just never do any foreign language, but a lot took Computer Science so they started letting it count towards foreign language credits

[warm anchor]

That sounds like a system failure more than anything else

[golden gust]

speaking of examples of system failures

hai eternity

[warm anchor]

[spare venture]

yeah what? a lot of people were saying they weren’t taking required courses so the school just caved?

[silver nexus]

yep

[spare venture]

that school sounds like the type of school that makes people turn out like leaf

[silver nexus]

tbf, the only options at the time was spanish, and the spanish program was really bad

[warm anchor]

Heyyyy a class to design fursuit is a reasonable course to take barty.

[spare venture]

yeah that just sounds like a bad school

[unkempt drift]

Just sitting down for my dr. Strange MoM showing. At some point these movies can’t live up to the hype, and while I think Spider-Man def did, am not sure about this one.

Also, my theater changed their butter and it’s crappy now.

So that doesn’t bode well for my mood

[golden gust]

I mean, I rarely watch super hero type stuff these days, or movies in general, the biggest thing that these movies have is the wider universes which it's set in, which is milked out to all fuck with any movie series which gets anywhere

[unkempt drift]

I don’t think “milk” is appropriate here tho, there are tons of stories in the comics that can be done.

[golden gust]

The thing is is that even the shittiest of films in the MCU can have wider implications on the MCU

[unkempt drift]

That is true, and it’s why I won’t miss one.

[golden gust]

and so often, if you wanna have the full "keep up" on the MCU, you pretty much need to watch it all

and they often milk tf out of it cos they know that they can generally kinda take the piss and people will come back

I've seen the odd movie where I tuned out cos it felt that there was just 20-30 minutes of characters, sitting around, scratching their nads having a pointless back and forth either tryna plot catchup for shit they couldn't be arsed to cover or cos "the audience is dumb"

and, "oh, yea, we're gonna try this plan, so what we do is", which lasts for like, 5 minutes before shit goes sideways, and main character or no-name upcoming protagnist does something which takes us back to the end of the OG plan or something there abouts

"oh no, the title character is dangling off the edge of a building and could fall to his death without his prop here, I sure hope that they don't slip and kill off the entire series of material they planned to copy over to the big screen"

[unkempt drift]

Well I think they are smarter than that. With modern attention spans, they can’t have too many bad things in a row before people stop caring. Star Wars went off a cliff perception wise after 2 movies right?

[unkempt drift]

This is hardly a novel problem.

[golden gust]

I mean, it's just generally the same plot makeup over and over which just leads to so much what feels like wasted screen time where they're doing fuck all

They're tryna compete with mobile devices for attention and feel the need to have these moments to try to catch people up, yet it takes a fair % of the screen time

[unkempt drift]

Oh yeah, I have problems with that. I would prefer if movies were made like Tenet with 0 catch-up and minimal explanations. But that’s not for everyone.

And as long as I enjoy the stories being told, I’ll pay attention I guess

[golden gust]

Yea, I mean, I've been suspected to be on the spectrum for years and have been kinda urged to go get tested, and, like, I just struggle with modern movies for the most part as they struggle for the hook

There just seems to be so many predictable moments and stuff like that that it gets dull and I struggle to last 20 minutes

I miss the days of shows competing for action and stuff, cos even if the plot was predictable af, it was fun to watch

But, these days if often just feels that theres so many moments where stuff is moving far too slow for my brain and I just need to go do something else as it irritiates me to keep watching

[warm anchor]

That's why old school anime is best I know the feeling cat

[golden gust]

I mean, older shows in general, not to be date myself, lol

But, these days, episodic just seems dead

Like, you'd scratch ya nads, sit down in front of the TV, and watch a 22 minute show which has often 1/2 main plotlines sometimes intertwined and a smaller one just to fill up the time and add a bit of spice

[warm anchor]

very true. The industry is now also just pumping out stuff people wants to watch and see if it sticks

Very few director has the resource and the say to say I just want to make what I want regardless if it's gonna sell or not.

[golden gust]

by the next episode, stuff would generally be back to a sane point of reference and you could start from pretty much anything

Take the simpsons, for all it's worth, it's not really progressed much bar the odd changes here and there over the lifetime of the show; You could pretty much sit down and watch any random episode without missing out on too much

weekly release is also a fun one which is kinda somewhat potentially on its way out vs the dumpfest

[vestal jasper]

I wanna watch MoM so bad 😭

[golden gust]

streamers know that it's easier to hook people in for a binge session that it is to try to get them to come back every week

Then again, theres netflix which has the exact same issue valve has

||Fuckers gonna have to learn to count to 3 sooner or later...||

[potent wedge]

Valve capitalized on the meme when gaben was doing a announcer pack for some obscure game and couldn't physically comprehend the number 3

[brave mountain]

hey sulu

do you use yarn?

ok I saw yarn on the workflow files

[warm anchor]

obscure game that holds the current highest esport prize record? and dominate the top earning esport players with over 80% of top 50 are dota player?

[potent wedge]

Plot twist: you researched that to prove a point against someone who has never heard of DOTA so assumes it was obscure instead of touching grass

[true canyon]

Why not just... not be aggressive to others like that? 🤔

[warm anchor]

I mean anyone that follows esport that ever searched on top earning will learn about dota

because 71 out of top 100 earned esport players are all from dota2

[magic river]

dota2? Is that one of those clones of that game made about Arcane?

[warm anchor]

tbf Riot has way better marketing than Valve in terms of League vs dota 2

I dont believe Valve ever run any sort of ads in the entire duration of the game

[magic river]

Being on the Steam homepage is a pretty big ad

[warm anchor]

wait it is (?)

[magic river]

What?

[warm anchor]

Dota isnt on my steam front page

[magic river]

It isn't right now, no

Right now Devolver paid them money instead 😛

[warm anchor]

yeah I dont go on steam front page anymore and I default my steam client to be in my library so I dont buy games that I will never play

[magic river]

The Featured & Recommended area used to be where ads went too but I think that's mostly algorithm driven these days?

[warm anchor]

yeah that's correct so it differ from people to people

I got so many anime games it's crazy I watch them not play them

[magic river]

Oh, so it's not full of porn for everyone?

[warm anchor]

[magic river]

For real though, mine is recommending Blush Blush and Orc Massage

[warm anchor]

nekopara counts?

[magic river]

I have those games marked as hidden in my library and I think there was a thing to make it exclude them from generating recommendations

Got them in some bundle, they're a bit yikes

[warm anchor]

hahahhaha