So like 300 per year
#general
vernal moth
worn ember
2.5gb gang
vernal moth
Good luck paying for gas and insurance and maintaince on a car for 300 euro per year
spare venture
yeah you’re only paying less than 300 euro if you work from home
worn ember
a one way ticket is already 6euro 
spare venture
or don’t work
vernal moth
We are test running a 9 euro ticket this summer
To see if more people use public transport if it's cheaper
9 euro per month for all tram, subway, light rail and busses
worn ember
its pretty cheap for students here i think i pay like 40euro/3m
but for non students its pretty damn expensive
vernal moth
In uni its covered by the uni fees, basically the uni fees are half for just the ticket ^^
And normal schools it's dirt cheap too
I pay 28 euro cause my company pays half
vernal moth
That's dum
Here it's just limited by area
But you can by extensions for cheap
Eager to see what the 9 euro/month study will show
quick obsidian
is there a plugin that makes hologram heads?
like placable blocks that make holograms
vernal moth
Sounds like an invisible armor stand with a block as head to me 😂
quick obsidian
i checked doesn't look like it
vernal moth
Man, fuck Netflix, why can't they filter out shit I already watched
They keep suggesting me to watch stuff that I actually upvoted, they know I watched it...
meager tusk
ashen cliff
SAME HERE!
cloud peak
is there a way to add carpet mod to a paper server?
worn crest
is there a way to add carpet mod to a paper server?
paper cant load mods in general
cloud peak
i was on a server with carpet mod and i am certain they had paper
warm anchor
Not recommended nor supported.
golden gust
Paper doesn't support mods
there are forks of forge which try to add paper API, but, outside of using our API package, they have nothing to do with us
worn crest
i was on a server with carpet mod and i am certain they had paper
and with a bit of googeling, I believe you saw a plugin work there and not a mod because plugins are able to make such things
cloud peak
and with a bit of googeling, I believe you saw a plugin work there and not a mod...
yea but its outdated like 2 years ago
anyways... thanks guys
warm anchor
Working as intended
vernal moth
Should have used a gaming OS
warm anchor
So windows
wet storm
Okay, enough minecraft for today
worn ember
Okay, enough minecraft for today
looks like 3D mode
wet storm
Ah, yeah, I remember I used 3d glasses and played with this mode when it existed
cosmic raft
for what
worn crest
I pay 30.5€ in my area :c
vernal moth
Not just city but around the city too
golden gust
Yea, we don't got anything like that
The rail company has seasonal passes
Like, I can get a £60 ticket for a week to go between liverpool and manchester any time
vernal moth
I can go in like a 50km radius
To go further I have to buy a connection ticket for a couple bucks
Basically, Germany is divided into countless small districts were the public transport is grouped together
I can travel the whole district plus a bit of the border, if I wanna also travel in the next district I gotta pay up
Which is fair, since that money goes to that district then
golden gust
Yea, joy here is that government owns all the rail, and many public services are ran by "my good friend" type BS
topaz mortar
The service is privatized.
topaz mortar
Yeah, the decision to privatize and just be the "100%" stock owner was a wrong one.
vernal moth
It's absolutely stupid, it's a private joint-stock company (I think that's the proper term in English) with the gov being the only shareholder
brave mountain
Just a few km
vernal moth
We got the conservatives to blame for that bullshit, like almost all bullshit, but I'll go to sleep before jroy wakes up
golden gust
because bus companies generally have a monoply as they're basically half-ass private contracted by the city or whatever
Over here we have merseytravel whom afaik are basically manned by stagecoach
brave mountain
Same for apartment rent, like 2k for a small one.
golden gust
then theres megabus, who are basically the defacto city to city provider more or less
brave mountain
And 50/week electricity
brave mountain
Is not politics is complain against the "system" 😅
vernal moth
Cat these kids are too young for that
brave mountain
Too obsessive 😂
wet storm
Cat these kids are too young for that
damn, ageist, let's cancel papermc project /s
golden gust
Psh
vernal moth
Lonely island is the YouTube I grew up with
golden gust
If you want a fun movie, look for the the south park movie
vernal moth
I can still link them today, without feeling bad about it, will kids today feel the same about their YouTubers in a decade?
brave mountain
I only watch ltt and trailers
golden gust
all of that various stuff, but the south park movie was out of bounds
Until one day when my birth giver fiiiinnally let us watch it
I mean, bearing in mind, we'd seen the TV series, it was on somewhat often in our house
outside of the songs, idk what the fuss was all about, like, we probs sung them within our own bedrooms for like a week or something before it wore off
vernal moth
I watched space balls with my dad after we been to the cinema with star trek, been loving that movie ever since
golden gust
I probs watched space balls once or twice when I was younger, was kinda dope
defo on the list of stuff I wanna rewatch when I get a TV
golden gust
The radars been jammed!
vernal moth
His tie alone sells it
But the movie is so filled with amazing quotes
Half of which Elon musk turned into products, lol
They have gone to plaid!
Spaceballs: the flame thrower
Those two I remember on top of my head but am sure there is more
Oh ludicrous mode too
wet storm
damn, I've missed many of these, cuz russia feels like another universe, fuck ussr tbh
golden gust
yar har har
vernal moth
Like, I watched it at least 20 times, plus hundreds of hours of clips on YouTube, and I still laugh
golden gust
Airplane!
Theres so many good movies and shit from around then which still live up to their hype even to this day
These days, outside of the odd movie like dead pool, I struggle to watch many of them even once
vernal moth
Lol, Wikipedia be like
"Ludicrous speed" redirects here. For the Tesla vehicular mode, see Tesla Model S.
"Plaid speed" redirects here. For the Tesla vehicular mode, see Tesla Model S § Palladium (Plaid).
wet storm
§? legacy bukkit colors? no way. /s
potent wedge
§? legacy bukkit colors? no way. /s
\033[0;31m ascii escape colors? \033[0;93m No Way. \033[0;37m
limber knotBOT
mergh, does anyone know how I can force the launcher to start older versions of the game with java 16/17? -.-
worthy geode
There is a "java executable" setting in the advanced settings when you edit an installation
worthy geode
tf, why do they have that option in the first place then oO
limber knotBOT
well it used to work...
warm anchor
Intended 
warm anchor
They gonna make launcher as bad as possible so people will switch to store app
wet storm
use multimc then I guess
worthy geode
also has a solution, you need to replace the JavaCheck.jar file with some dummy file and then it launches fine.
still shows an error tho, but it launches for me
warm anchor
Pheonix will rather die than using close sourced software
limber knotBOT
I'm not going to move my whole setup lol
oh right, the javachecker workaround used to work
warm anchor
That’s what I said until MS account kept on logging me out
limber knotBOT
I remember doing that in the past lmao
worthy geode
It still works for me with 1.8.9, just tried it. it does give you an annoying error pop up on launch tho
limber knotBOT
ok well I got it to launch now with java 8, not sure why the mod that previously complained about that now just works lmao
worthy geode
You could probably replace it with a valid .jar file to get rid of that
twin lagoon
https://is.papr.best/gt6ZkGCl.png
yeah this shit does not work
tried to change the jvm in a curseforge modpack and i just couldn't
worthy geode
oh JavaCheck.jar is great lol
limber knotBOT
well whatever, I got the mods I needed working ¯_(ツ)_/¯
tough tiger
i need some help, people are saying that when they type in /tpa or /home it says unknown command. Help?
magic river
boo, Oura Ring requires a monthly subscription service now
tough tiger
could u help me?
magic river
tough tiger
thanks
wet storm
I wanna make a smol personal website with blogposts with backend in rust, I tried Rocket framework and it looks really cool, but afaik there is a more popular framework called Actix Web, but people also say that it is more complex due to actors. What do you think, should I try Rocket or Actix?
merry talon
I have heard of the former a bunch but never the latter
tired heath
Well, I think, that in my past where I did more web development than I ever wanted to do, I came across so many frameworks that I had to use because customer wanted it, project was made in it, source required it blablabla that I only can say, most of the time you waste time learning it a way somebody coded the framework, no framework lives forever, some more than others, so just go with whatever you feel like, does it matter 😄 no
potent wedge
Flask is forever
tired heath
Except one is obviously shit, than don't, but I have a high tolerance for shit, since I did some Wordpress plugins
potent wedge
WordPress ligit be acting like it's a free hosting till you make an account and realize it's a crappy website builder the same as the rest but makes the most money
tired heath
Never made a Wordpress account in my live 🙂 okay once, to test the Jetpack sss
potent wedge
Lol I thought it was free hosting then the only thing it let me do was this "website builder"
tired heath
I guess you had one of those scam hosters what charge extra for hosting Wordpress, what actually is Open Source
potent wedge
Wait it gives you the source?
tired heath
Yes WP is Open Source, if you ever wanna see how the definition of Evil looks like, open it
potent wedge
THEY ARE USING PHP
tired heath
Is coded in PHP, PHP itself is not that bad, but they made it bad
tired heath
Wym with outdated
potent wedge
Well the reason it's not used alot today is because people are calling it outdated
tired heath
Still al lot of OS projects use it, not small one
tired heath
I really don't care that much anymore about using the fanciest stuff, I have to admit, I ask: Will this be supported in +x years, will it run +x years, will it likely cause more problems than stuff I want, yes, yes, no, why not 😄
potent wedge
"Will it run in x years" well, archive.org exists and nowadays the original owners will give you old version
violet spear
Eid mubarak everybody
trim oracle
you know what should exist
a way to generate a sever jar based on modules of vanilla functionality
it would still be using NMS (ew) but patches for each module would be applied to the NMS jar to remove it completely
golden gust
if (Config.shouldDoRedstone) {}
trim oracle
or just add a conditional around it, but that does require memory lookups 
golden gust
Fairly sure JIT can hep with that drastically
Thing is is that theres practically 0 demand for stripping stuff out outside of very niche server setups in which case, theres probs already a saner cut down solution out there
just a whole lot of work for like, 1% of the community, not to mention patch conflicts, etc
trim oracle
well there is Minestom, or building your own server impl, but that requires you to implement everything you do want instead of removing what you don't
though I guess you could go in and edit the server jar yourself, removing what you don't want that's causing significant performance impact
and at that point, where you need something so specialized, probably better
never tried doing something like that though, probably presents a bunch of problems
radiant oriole
or just add a conditional around it, but that does require memory lookups <:kekw...
A conditional outside of a hot path is going to have a performance impact so small it’ll be impossible to measure
Plus if it’s in a hotpath it’ll be quickly branch predicted away until it’s not an issue
trim oracle
how feasible is it to actually remove shit from NMS, or perhaps just clearing the method bodies of logic you don't want so it doesn't conflict
golden gust
I mean, it's a patch file removing a hunk of code
depends on the hunk of code as to how easy it is to remove, some stuff runs all over the place that the easy option is literally to just return
trim oracle
does Paperclip let you add your own patches before building the jar, how should I go about patching the source
golden gust
but, removing code is generally just asking for patch conflicts, for stuff like that you'd sooner just make a config file and scatter conditionals in to deal with it rather than tryna deal with yeeting code across various potentially conflicting paths
paperclip is our bootstrap
trim oracle
right, doesn't it apply the patches?
so you can avoid the legal issues of distributing NMS code
golden gust
if you wanted to have your own patches you'd use the paperweight patcher stuff or basically just toss your patches in the patches folder before building
it applies a computed binary patch
trim oracle
ah okay
oh my god it uses Kotlin
it's so weird seeing different parts of the community so against it and others so with it
all right, neat, ty!
golden gust
I mean, it's the typical kinda elitism around programming languages, shamefully many devs suck and can't form their own opinion over stuff, and so, yea...
"X said Y sucks, so Y must suck"
stuck lynx
"X said Y sucks, so Y must suck"
(the entire community with php and python be like)
trim oracle
Right, that does happen.. there are arguments against Kotlin but most of them are just "well Java has this now so Kotlin now useless"
when you look at what Kotlin does have, and what Java has in comparison, it really isn't comparable, at least to me
trim oracle
yeah, that's also another argument I see with it, why use infix functions for bitwise instead of symbols
I mean we have so much other sugar lmfao
golden gust
But, theres many other nice things too, I do prefer throwing shit together in kotlin vs java, used to use it often in uni for prototyping stuff before transcribing it over to java
trim oracle
tbh haven't really minded the infix bit magic functions, though I've only used it once and that was to generate a snowflake id
golden gust
it's stupid but it's not that much of a thing to break me
only thing I really hate about Kotlin, tbqh, is kotlin devs
trim oracle
oh? there's a problem with the community?
golden gust
I mean, I've seen the odd plugin written in kotlin where they where using extention functions as much as politicians snort magical dust
Like, core parts of the plugin pretty much implemented in Ext functions
trim oracle
hmm, tbh I haven't looked at the source of other kotlin projects as much
at first thought you meant top level functions being abused, since I can see that
though yeah, Kotlin does give you a lot more design flexibility and it's really up to you to use it responsibly
golden gust
I mean, my general love for kotlin is that it helped cut out a nice chunk of boilerplate and has things like kotlin/native which at one point looked really promising
Theres some nifty features but, as you said, it's always the joys of tryna use the sugar responisibly
trim oracle
mhm, I agree with that
thank you for the chat & the help with my unmaintainable idea lmfao
spare venture
i like kotlin enums vs java enums
trim oracle
going to look into seeing how I can rip NMS apart
magic river
Man AvE's signs make me wish I was in a machine shop just so I could use them 😛
I've got some of them already, a couple I had places that made sense but the rest I just never used
cobalt cave
hm
magic river
And Madoka Magica
And apparently a ton of other anime
Nothing current afaik but all the hits
konosuba, berserk, fma:b, inuyasha
cobalt cave
magic river
Oh, and of course they have The Testament of Sister New Devil
tropic flame
hey amaranth
idk if you ended up answering but
what was the anime you were talking about here?
tropic flame
And apparently a _ton_ of other anime
also, that's pretty cool
magic river
what was the anime you were talking about here?
tender cloud
They renamed it 😩
kind agate
hi
@magic river what would you say is a good amount for an 18 yr old to have in savings at all times
if you don’t mind me asking of course
wet storm
difficult choice (with the knowledge of scala, everything becomes difficult)
glass crag
functional ts >>>>
functional anything >>>> but OOP in ts/js is particuarly awful as well
wet storm
"very functional, very monadic, very tagless final, very slow" - words of wisdom, I think it depends, fp is when you have very flexible language features, so you can build many things with minimal worrying about how hard will it take to support it in the future, but also in many cases it's slow, and a few programmers will understand your code. OOP is when everyone understand your code, it won't become as slow as DFU at some point if you make code cleanly, but you need to more care about how people will support it in the fututre...
magic river
<@118838921080602628> what would you say is a good amount for an 18 yr old to ha...
If an 18 year old even has any savings I'd say they're doing alright
kind agate
If an 18 year old even has any savings I'd say they're doing alright
What about a 21 year old
How much should I have saved by the time I’m 25
Is what im saying
magic river
Ideally you'd have 3-6 months of living expenses at least
When you get in to the "I have enough money to gamble in the stock market" I think the rule is any money you think you'd need in the next 5 years shouldn't be in stocks
glass crag
"very functional, very monadic, very tagless final, very slow" - words of wisdom...
tbh idk half the words you just said, js doesn't have the crazy functional features, but unions, objects, etc. are nice to work with. libraries like react/vue have moved towards functional programming as well
and functions are a first class citizen
magic river
"very functional, very monadic, very tagless final, very slow" - words of wisdom...
DFU doesn't have to be slow, although Java isn't the best language for how it's written
You could even write a "functional" version of it that is fast in Java still
twin lagoon
How much should I have saved by the time I’m 25
brother just save as much as you can aslong as you can live comfortably
you don't have to overthink this
magic river
An imperative version would probably be faster still
glass crag
age isnt an important indicator
untold meadow
is there anything michael can't give advice about ?!
glass crag
everyones at a different stage of their financial journey
untold meadow
wise old owl
twin lagoon
is it giving advice when it's common sense
twin lagoon
bestest of kezzes ?
magic river
Well, if you live on bare essentials and save the rest, never spending on fun things, you'll either give up and blow it all or end up a depressed old person with money but regretting you never did anything
magic river
That's why you should have a target for at least a minimum amount of savings
After that putting more in is better but not at the expense of actually living your life
kind agate
G4 be getting paid like he don’t know anything fucking else
magic river
You should always be putting something in, don't just stop saving/investing more, but don't run yourself in to the ground
kind agate
All i do is get paid i can’t even eat or sleep unless im paid first!!!
The money give me a rush
vernal moth
Welcome to capitalism
magic river
And if you're making $15/hr maybe you can't afford to save anything, instead you should focus on doing things to get paid more (although really, you should still try hard to at least have some kind of emergency fund)
kind agate
I gotta be a business man
vernal moth
Then talk to a financial advisor
kind agate
I’m a business man and the business, man
vernal moth
That's what business man do
kind agate
Ok
magic river
Some stuff is obvious and generic though, don't blow your money on fortnite skins and onlyfans 😛
wide chasm
You shouldn't? /s
kind agate
I can’t ever give a dime to no hoe
vernal moth
Like, for a 25 year old, the spectrum in this channel most likely goes from tens of thousands in student loans (if you live in a dum country) to tens of thousands in stock (if you are a German like me)
kind agate
The day g4 get caught buying onlyfans is the day they drown a fish
magic river
Well, I guess that's not completely generic. If you're making enough money to cover expenses and put a decent amount away then you can use the leftover on whatever you want, even if that's looking like Spiderman in video game
twin lagoon
oh shit you're that guy
wet storm
Some stuff is obvious and generic though, don't blow your money on fortnite skin...
damn, it reminded me a man I know who spends most of his money on onlyfans and other similar services...
He always has a theme to talk to
twin lagoon
the guy who spews out basically just lyrics 24/7 in the dyescape discord
please don't bring that into the paper discord thanks
shits bad enough already
kind agate
Why are you hating on me
Why don’t you go get paid
I didn’t do anything to anybody
I just like to be paid and I encourage everyone else to get paid too
twin lagoon
@waxen panther thoughts
mossy vessel
!kick @kind agate Please take your financing trolls somewhere else
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Kicked G4#3137 (Please take your financing trolls somewhere else) [1 total infraction] -- NotMyFault#3732.
mossy vessel
Thoughts expressed.
twin lagoon
rolled
kind agate
I’m not even a troll
ruby elbow
magic river
oops, I just noticed I'm putting too much in to my 401k now
ruby elbow
https://tenor.com/view/19dollar-fortnite-card-among-us-amogus-sus-red-among-sus-...
my opinion on this very complicated discussion of high social and ethical value
kind agate
my opinion on this very complicated discussion of high social and ethical value
He just kicked me for no reason bro
magic river
I wonder if our payroll system will be smart enough to cap that or if I'll just get fucked unless I fix it
wet storm
my opinion on this very complicated discussion of high social and ethical value
thoughts? #general message
kind agate
I don’t believe in any specific religion
I believe a higher power exists though
Who’s to say what that entails though
twin lagoon
@mossy vessel 
kind agate
Do you believe in an afterlife
kind agate
<@254790994594234370> <a:vorepoes:647151983970746387>
You have a problem with me and I didn’t even do anything to you
magic river
Can you not?
magic river
That's not even a good gif
waxen panther
@twin lagoon why did you make me look at this
twin lagoon
@waxen panther thoughts
waxen panther
ruby elbow
https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-cat-talking-reply-gif-24471552
amogus
not sending another gif
ima get kicked lmao
magic river
Why are all of these gifs so large and so shit tier?
kind agate
Amaranth what are some places you wanna travel to
magic river
I feel like I'm on facebook
kind agate
I wanna go to Japan, Costa Rica and Italy
magic river
I dunno, I've done a lot of traveling and I don't really enjoy it
magic river
Been to London, Boston, San Francisco, Austin, Dallas, Seville, Prague, Cambridge, Nashville, probably forgetting a few
Most of that was on Mark Shuttleworth's dime 😛
twin lagoon
@lavish compass 
wet storm
Do you believe in an afterlife
I think it exists but first of all we need to strictly understand what is a human and a one concrete person especially, if "one concrete person" is a bunch of atoms which connected in some way, why there wouldn't be a similar connection of the same atoms at any time of universe existance after your death in the state where you were alive? Think about it.
twin lagoon
think about it
a hypothetical human may be considered simultaneously both alive and dead as a result of it's fate being linked to a random subatomic event that may or may not occur
glass crag
bottoms up and the devil laughs
magic river
My main problem with travel is the flying, I'm too tall and broke my tailbone as a kid so I have to fold myself up in a seat, on smaller flights I have to flop halfway out into the aisle, and my back and ass hurt for days afterward
kind agate
I think it exists but first of all we need to strictly understand what is a huma...
I think the world is all energy
kind agate
My main problem with travel is the flying, I'm too tall and broke my tailbone as...
How tall are you
magic river
200 cm
twin lagoon
wtf
magic river
On the smaller planes even the exit row is too small
twin lagoon
do you have dutch ancestors
magic river
On bigger ones getting the exit row makes me not completely uncomfortable but it's hard to get and costs more
My great grandpa on my mom's side was like 185 cm, came from Germany. Then my grandpa is almost as tall as I am and my mom is around 180 cm
My grandma on my mom's side is really short though and my grandparents on my dad's side were both shorter than average
So I lucked out, I guess
quasi valley
Is hitting your head on a bunch of doorways really lucky? 
magic river
lol, that usually doesn't happen
I hit a lot of light fixtures and ceiling fans though
quasi valley
ah well that's not too bad then hahaha
magic river
Really messed up my knees though
Over like 3 or 4 months I went from one of the taller people in my class at school but nothing special to the second tallest person in the whole school even though I was a freshman
Grew like 16 cm
worn ember
weird flex but ok 
left swift
short
lavish compass
@twin lagoon
wet storm
It is the name of organization maintaining Minecraft server software called "Paper" and infrastructure around it
And the name of this discord server and github organization
left swift
What exactly is "PaperMC"?
it stands for
People
Attacking
People
Ending
Ridiculous
Meth
Crocodiles
civic herald
Started off with something, ran out ideas at the end
left swift
my ideas are never ending
civic herald
Or are they
left swift
just like ridiculous meth crocodiles
civic herald
Methogators
worn ember
nomana moment
left swift
civic herald
"send help moment"
kind agate
Over like 3 or 4 months I went from one of the taller people in my class at scho...
Instead of playing ball and becoming a big man you pursued a career in minecraft development
left swift
civic herald
More like "instead of playing ball, you play minecraft"
I would call that "pwetty epwc"
left swift
"becoming a big man" from the anime avatar discord user in minecraft server software discord
civic herald
Me when avatar is a blurry screenshot of an anime girl
civic herald
Who's daniel?
left swift
that
wet storm
Ennis /s
civic herald
Oh hi Daniel
kind agate
"becoming a big man" from the anime avatar discord user in minecraft server soft...
Ah right
You wouldn’t know that a “big man” is the name of a position because Minecraft is all you do
My bad
civic herald
Ah aikar the flags dude
worn ember
i love how everyone just knows him from that
worn ember
acf is dead tho 
civic herald
What's acf?
worn ember
annotation command framework
worn ember
nah haha
civic herald
That being?
left swift
their name is aikar
worn ember
a lib for plugin devs to make commands easily
kind agate
Because all good things come to an end
worn ember
aikar kinda taking a break from mc
civic herald
I see
wet storm
I thought it was aikar command framework
it sounds like the situation with MCP - Minecraft Coder Pack and Mod Coder Pack are both right, but iirc minecraft coder pack is the older name
kind agate
Aikar probably gets paid nonetheless so he’s chilling
kind agate
As long as someone’s getting paid at the end of the day I’m happy
I hope your getting paid too darkeye
Whatever you do just make sure you get paid
worn ember
hah im still a student, but i do a partime job as developer
its nice pay too, so im good
worn ember
haha every week is payday for me
civic herald
hah im still a student, but i do a partime job as developer
Do you freelance or do you work for someone?
worn ember
i work on a project for one of my lectors
civic herald
lector?
worn ember
teacher/professor
civic herald
Sounds cool
worn ember
yeah its fun
civic herald
Ah, that makes sense
void void
i've got question not related to paper
and dumb
bcs related to ms acess
xD
Do i have to disconnect from ms access database in .Net every single time i queried something?
i need to access same db file from about 15 client app instances from different PCs at the same time
white wren
guys i need help
i set my server it 4GB ram
and it dint work
and i set again it 1Gb ram
it work
what wrong with my lap
void void
guys i need help
ugh, any info maybe?
white wren
ugh, any info maybe?
nope
white wren
this is not too much descriptive
yeah wait
void void
what is your start script?
how much RAM does your laptop have?
is your system 64-bit?
any logs from server console?
silver nexus
Might I recommend you move to #paper-help?
void void
Might I recommend you move to <#289587909051416579>?
oh yeah
violet spear
what is manhunt game difficulity? XD
worn ember
Do i have to disconnect from ms access database in .Net every single time i quer...
you can leave it open afaik
worn crest
what is manhunt game difficulity? XD
i guess they use peaceful because no mobs. but everybody can do it like they want lol isnt a rule
worn ember
the connection is just a reference and the query will then make the actual query using that connection and close it again once its fetched
rare tiger
i just finished making xclaim its still beta but pretty good
if you're not looking for like an SMP oriented protection system then idk
worldguard i guess 🤮
warm anchor
real vanilla smp dont use protection 
violet spear
i guess they use peaceful because no mobs. but everybody can do it like they wan...
how is the hunter gonna get loot? :/
brave mountain
real vanilla smp dont use protection <:PMA:585698251630706689>
what is that
I did not see the need for protection since it is a private server, but I feel the need to
google, stack
lavish compass
order by rand()??
ashen cliff
So, it just doesn't exist. 
rare tiger
do you have to do it with just sql
ashen cliff
It's not the same column tho.
I would specify tables for everything to avoid ambiguity.
wide chasm
Maybe try renaming (SELECT School_ID FROM Contestants WHERE Bot_ID=Bot_ID_Win LIMIT 1) AS School_ID this AS to something else?
void void
can i knows why no stable version for 1.18.2
i tryed so many times new new update came
wraith trail
paper does not publish recommended releases ever. head to #paper-help for future questions though
left swift
yo sulu
magic river
paper kind of does recommended releases
It's just that after the first one they're all recommended 😛
Except when they aren't, you'll have to test to find out which is which
magic river
wat
$300m for Tomb Raider, Deus Ex, the entire back catalog, and all of Eidos and Crystal Dynamics
They seem to be going all in on gacha games and live services and these studios haven't done well with that model (see the Marvel games) so I guess they don't value them very highly
heady shale
Is there a mc launcher that can reproduce different profiles?
for example if I have a config like this:
{
version = "1.18.2"
modloader = "fabric"
mods: [
curseforge.sodium
curseforge.irisshaders
]
}
It will generate an instance of Fabric that has the mods Sodium and Iris Shaders
warm anchor
So basically MultiMC?
heady shale
I'm currently using PolyMC and I don't see an option like this. There are the import and export options but they just use the files of the MC instance, which is not what I want
heady shale
So basically MultiMC?
Does MultiMC have something that I can give it a config and it builds the instance?
twin lagoon
no
twin lagoon
unreal pike
i know this sounds weird/fake but i randomly just found every type of mineral just laid out on the ground
is it some feature?
ripe sphinx
it theoretically could be a plugin, but seems unlikely
unreal pike
the server just opened so i dont think anyone got netherite yet even if they did it should have been cleared by the auto thing
thats so odd
ripe sphinx
it definitely wasn't plain paper that did that
ashen cliff
just opened.
Almost full armor bar.
heady shale
maybe I can make a simple mc launcher myself and do something with nix
unreal pike
>just opened.
Almost full armor bar. <:kekwhyper:674093681904713729>
half dia half iron can get that within an hour
warm anchor
>just opened.
Almost full armor bar. <:kekwhyper:674093681904713729>
All store purchase for low price of $9.99
unreal pike
but netherite no way unless u have luck of devil
warm anchor
the server just opened so i dont think anyone got netherite yet even if they did...
Clearing into works on loaded chunk
And if you are using clearlagg 
warm anchor
Good 
void void
you can leave it open afaik
okie, i'll try in the office
kind agate
my life was never eazy but now g4 is getting fuckin paid
still having trouble finding my purpose though
do all of you work some tech related job
is that your purpose
working in a computer repair shop would be cool for a while
where are you right now
lavish compass
@warm anchor 
quasi valley
@lavish compass 
worn ember
lavish compass
<@290921387655430144> <a:weebNUKE:893715744368492584>
vernal moth
Or you should just accept our rules
Why should this not be a zone where everybody feels safe?
If you don't agree, am happy to show you the door
warm anchor
@quasi valley @lavish compass have a great Monday
quasi valley
thank you
charred sleet
*had
lavish compass
warm anchor
<:arch:706925335064608808>
vestal jasper
What's with people lately and trying to revolt against discord server rules and moderation
worthy geode
is that really a new thing?
vestal jasper
I've seen more of it lately
magic river
Maybe they think Musk will buy Discord soon and they'll be allowed to do whatever they want here too
Or their fantasies of what Musk will do with Twitter is emboldening them, in any case
cunning raft
discord is not the type of platform for e2ee
a e2ee mode for dms would really be all they could do
magic river
lol Musk was talking about doing e2e for Twitter DMs
vernal moth
I need my public messages to be end to end encrypted so that it's safe from bad bad gov!
magic river
True e2e like Signal or Matrix is a bit of a UX nightmare
vernal moth
Does matrix do e2e for normal channels?
magic river
Not sure
I know it can do e2e for PMs and group chats
If it doesn't do it for public channels either that's just a UI thing or they decided there was no point
vernal moth
Well, the join process is different for a channel vs a group
vernal moth
I guess that falls under UI/UX thing
Twitter surprises me how they have so few features yet so many staff
golden gust
to my understanding, typical large business stuff
vernal moth
Like, do they all just prototype stuff and throw it away?
golden gust
engineers which are busy doing nothing
quasi valley
and everything "new" they do is either trying to force the dumb "homepage" timeline onto everyone or dumbing down their design
worthy geode
they like to add random stuff nobody uses like Lists
vernal moth
engineers which are busy doing nothing
Well, they use scala, so no surprise there
lavish compass
Does matrix do e2e for normal channels?
can be optionally enabled
Matrix isn't as secure as signal in terms of encryption though iirc
magic river
Matrix should be using the same encryption as Signal
Unless there are implementation problems
Well, I guess technically it's Element implementing it
merry talon
I mean matrix has all that federation stuff vs just a single backend
I can imagine that being significantly more complicated
magic river
Not sure how much is in the protocol/homeserver and how much is in the client
lavish compass
They use double ratchet, not sure if they do x3dh though
magic river
If matrix just sees it as normal messages but gibberish then the federation part doesn't really matter
They call it Olm
It's a custom protocol using the double ratchet
I keep calling it axolotl but apparently that isn't the name anymore
I think Olm is a more or less straightforward implementation of double ratchet, megaolm (group chats) is the novel bit
Cool, they're working on a spec to let applications services (mostly bridges to other protocols) take part in e2e as well
That'd probably only work with Signal though unless the other side of the bridge was adapted to speak olm/megaolm
little frost
Not sure how much is in the protocol/homeserver and how much is in the client
pretty sure encryption is on the protocol layer?
little frost
matrix protocol
limber knotBOT
matrix is buggy asf
little frost
(over http)
limber knotBOT
used element for 1 year
floral mesa
matrix itself is okay
limber knotBOT
"okay" is not ok
it still uses json or something
go make your own protocol comeon
use jabber or irc
best
little frost
json is ubiquitous
floral mesa
eh, just fork mastodon and dont release its source code
untold meadow
who tf uses json in 2022
limber knotBOT
mastodon is not an IM platform?
untold meadow
real chads waste time writing entire formats for no reason
floral mesa
I believe it does have that option?
little frost
I've made a matrix service for myself and found it enjoyable, the docs are nice
limber knotBOT
json is the lamest thing
i hate it deeply
i also made a matrix server for myself
untold meadow
fr fr why would you ever use widely supported formats with serializers available in most languages
so uncool
limber knotBOT
i had some problems with the dcumentation but overall ok
mostly used doesnt mean good
lavish compass
yeah, go use capnproto
little frost
Minecraft chat uses json
untold meadow
so does discord api
untold meadow
my guy
how do you think the irc bot communicates with the discord api
(actually i think it's webhooks but whatever)
limber knotBOT
irc doesn't have to cımmunicate with discord api
idc i don't want a client or an app running and getting my ip adress to add stuff to my "show as ads" list
this is better than nothing
there was a discord client that ran on terminal
i forgot it's name but i wanted to use it before it got discontinued
discord shutting down all client mods is lame as fuk
cunning raft
they didn't shut down client mods
cunning raft
no they're not
lavish compass
no, not really
limber knotBOT
they are sending takedown requests
cunning raft
they're just banning people who abuse the api with client connections
lavish compass
they are sending takedown requests
source?
afaik powercord and betterdiscord are still up
lavish compass
idc i don't want a client or an app running and getting my ip adress to add stuf...
doesn't IRC also broadcast your IP by default
limber knotBOT
not to discord
cunning raft
ok can you send the takedown requests discord is doing
limber knotBOT
yeah seems like i have been wrong
just told something i saw on a repository
looking back at them they are banning the users not the projects
thanks for the heads up
little frost
also the client api is undocumented and unstable, nobody sane wants to use it
cunning raft
discord bots and clients use the same api
limber knotBOT
yeah there are bot clients out there
cunning raft
short for rate limits and a few undocumented apis (friends and social connections most notably) they're pretty much the same
cunning raft
such as?
limber knotBOT
afaik they owned another platform that was a security nightmare and sold it over to microsoft(?)
not a IM app
or might me
cunning raft
link?
worthy geode
never heard of that tbh
cunning raft
ok
still sorrel
Uh hi
lavish compass
why does this person look familiar
limber knotBOT
he is inside your walls
okay i got some facts wrong but
still
the dudes hold user info
lavish compass
let's be real here
lavish compass
did security exist in 2009
limber knotBOT
why shouldn't it
lavish compass
obviously it should, but no one knew good practices
limber knotBOT
whendid obsd 2.0 got out
worthy geode
I mean, apparently it was enough for someone to pay 104 million dollars in 2009 for that thing
lavish compass
tls 1.2 was like introduced in 2008
limber knotBOT
it was not in the past
it is now
tls1.3 will become insecure in the future
what is your point
trim oracle
hey Cubxity, just want to say your portfolio is hot af ;O
lavish compass
my point is that as time moves, security knowledge moves
you can't really compare security knowledge now vs an app made in 2009
lavish compass
hey Cubxity, just want to say your portfolio is hot af ;O
limber knotBOT
an app made in 2009 listens to your private life would not be a problem to you then
i understand, seems like our point of views are different
lavish compass
it would be a problem now yes
limber knotBOT
but i respect your opinions
lavish compass
but in 2009, people didn't know better
limber knotBOT
In 2011, OpenFeint was party to a class action suit with allegations including computer fraud, invasion of privacy, breach of contract, bad faith and seven other statutory violations
yea
but the developer is same
lavish compass
I thought you meant like just security issues
limber knotBOT
kinda concerning
i mean if a man rapes people, and gets rehabilitated, people are still scared of him
so
this is like this
worthy geode
Not sure if computer fraud is like rape, but well
limber knotBOT
it's an example
the thing is trust
you need time to buil trust
you get the point in my example?
worthy geode
its a bit of a extreme one, but sure
But people also trust FB or Google with their data, and they actually have a way to make money of it. While discord does not even seem to know how to make money
limber knotBOT
yeah
tbh i don't think my data is that much important but people saying this all over the world cause this so
also what happened to twitter
i kinda think Meta will die very soon
worthy geode
idk, I don't really care if its some investment fonds owning it or elon musk, lol
limber knotBOT
yeah what is elon gonna change
im curious
people also said elon slept with amber, ex wife of depp
also elon is sending bunch of harmful gasses to the atmosphere using rockets too
cancelled lots of projects
worthy geode
that sounds like bs tbh
limber knotBOT
yeah but they have photos
elon also didn't say anything
they say it's someone who looks like her
cunning raft
that sounds like bs tbh
seems to be the theme coming this irc user
worthy geode
I meant the rocket thingy, I don't care who slept with whom lol
cunning raft
ok
golden gust
you ran out of memory
quick obsidian
indeed
wet storm
It reminds me of chained out of memory exceptions going until main thread
quick obsidian
ill just leave it to do its thing
wet storm
You know that feeling when you test your plugin and some out of memory exception occurs in some async task, so it does out of memory to all other threads until main thread (not a server thread!) And your server finally crashes
mossy relic
How do I actually get players
worn crest
How do I actually get players
make youtube videos
mossy relic
Tiktoks?
spiral robin
worthy geode
protocollib is a library, if a plugin depends on it you can't just replace it with something else.
for developing your own plugins packet-events is an alternative tho.
Same pretty much applies for PAPI, but im not aware of any worthwhile alternatives here (and also, why, both plugins do their job pretty well)
spare venture
the best thing about NFTs is
cunning raft
the anti-nft circle jerk
spare venture
i almost exclusively hear about nfts from people complaining about nfts
wet storm
I started doing something with rendering in fabric, and damn, rendering is a huge and not understandable part of mc client for me, like, basically you have lwjgl, which has OpenGL native calls, after that it goes through mojang's blaze3d, through a huge amount of code in net.minecraft.client.renderer, and it results at high level APIs such as screen, widget, tooltip etc. ones... And imagine how high level, for example, adventure api, which does: adventure api transformations -> platform transformations -> minecraft protocol -> high level client APIs -> net.minecraft.client.renderer things -> blaze3d -> lwjgl -> OpenGL -> ... -> a pixel actually shows on a monitor.
magic river
Welcome to programming? 😄
You should probably never go below blaze3d, I think
Unless you're trying to mod the renderer and not just render new things
magic river
Square-Enix PR about the sale from earlier:
The Transaction will assist the Company in adapting to the changes underway in the global business environment by establishing a more efficient allocation of resources, which will enhance corporate value by accelerating growth in the Company’s core businesses in the digital entertainment domain. In addition, the Transaction enables the launch of new businesses by moving forward with investments in fields including blockchain, AI, and the cloud.
🤢
kind agate
hey
brave mountain
Some things are established so that the commercial system is not a madness
Instead is a multiverse of madness
The same applies to society
But still, a madness
void void
How do I actually get players
Ads on discord servers, partnerships, youtube videos, Facebook groups etc
sage vessel
billboards have been effective for me
void void
billboards have been effective for me
Billboards?
lean kiln
yeah, like you see on the highway
void void
In my country ? Not
I saw it only once
And it was hypixel
But ... hmm ..
Its kinda my dream
To create server
Then make cinema4D or Blender animated scene
And then put it on billboards
Huh
I need to finish my RPG server
Ducking NMS stays on my way
Graddle project, im on my way to you!
sage vessel
In my country ? Not
it happen here
even some billboard inside mc https://www.pcgamesn.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/minecraft-server-macron-2.jpg
Macron avec vous
he just won i think
maybe because of diverse and new-thinking advertising partially
brave mountain
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/876902758366736457/970876460158038066/257...
wow what a copy
sage vessel
your server employs billboard advertising techniques?
brave mountain
I do exactly the opposite
brave mountain
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/876902758366736457/970876460158038066/257...
but is this from mojang or someone else?
sage vessel
mc server
https://mcsrvstat.us/server/play.originrealms.com 274 players from advertising and growth
brave mountain
I am always interested in new ideas for server growing
have no scruple in using the mc logos
brave mountain
I am always interested in new ideas for server growing
I mean, I try to hide my server to the outside world I just allow some kind of people
sage vessel
ohhh so whitelist?
well if ur ever lacking players... billboards is the new tiktok for mc server owners...
brave mountain
and hide the ip to prevent ddos as it is self hosted
potent wedge
and hide the ip to prevent ddos as it is self hosted
You can use cloudflare for that but it's difficult on home routers
brave mountain
yo wanna pay me cloudflare enterprise?
lean kiln
ya bro I got u
potent wedge
??? It's completely free DDOS proxy (IP) protection
potent wedge
Http is TCP and quick (HTML/5 only around 10%) is both
potent wedge
Yes
sage vessel
ripe sphinx
CF free will not DDOS protect MC.
sage vessel
i think maybe this is wrong....
brave mountain
but more chances you get ddos if you have an enemy
ripe sphinx
You can use CF DNS for MC, but you will not get DDOS prot
ripe sphinx
you ONLY get DDOS prot and proxying for HTTP traffic
sage vessel
so no concern of DdOs
brave mountain
I also use dhcp, so easy escape
upbeat falconBOT
brave mountain
ddclient
sage vessel
this is not DHCP
void void
Wtf r u Talking to me
In Poland we just stopped throwing our Spears on drones
So billboards about minecraft
sage vessel
my brother works on anti drone technology in lithuania
brave mountain
well the thing is that when we all use ipv6, ddos will be *gone forever
ripe sphinx
void void
well the thing is that when we all use ipv6, ddos will be *gone forever
Ipv6 is funny
sage vessel
the world is out of ipv4 i thought... it cost lots of money for 1 now
because there is no extras
potent wedge
the world is out of ipv4 i thought... it cost lots of money for 1 now
Damn you internet makers!!!!!
ripe sphinx
we're not "out" but yeah they're expensive.
sage vessel
warm anchor
v6 is a blessing if it works
void void
In my office
We use almost whole 10.0.0.0 pool
warm anchor
imagine no portforwarding!
void void
And its still
ripe sphinx
whenever it gets adopted
void void
not enough
warm anchor
homehosting hater hates this one simple trick!
ripe sphinx
space bar not the enter key pls woody
potent wedge
And not once did they think "hey let's free up some more addresses" instead of like half the thing unusable
void void
imagine no portforwarding!
Yes!!
sage vessel
In my office
We use almost whole 10.0.0.0 pool
u have 16 million devices in ur office??????
must be huuuuuuuuge
brave mountain
why hasn't ipv6 advanced: it will be easier for the bad guys to hide, harder for the bad guys to monitor
void void
I MEAN
Our Company is huge
warm anchor
it costs money @brave mountain
spare venture
let’s just make our own internet protocol
brave mountain
it costs money <@264007258738917376>
indeed
void void
We talk about real ipv6
warm anchor
short term gain is often more important to big company 
void void
Not shitty fake
potent wedge
let’s just make our own internet protocol
Yes let's go who will make the github ICAAN is a bunch of power crazy nerds anyways
warm anchor
tbf most of the fiber now has full v6 support.
sage vessel
u can get free /48 ipv6 0 cost
this is 65k addresses
so not enough for @void void's office
brave mountain
ipv4 is boring
void void
ipv4 is boring
Yesh, it is
sage vessel
wait i misread
ipv6 /48 has 1,208,925,819,614,629,174,706,176 addresses
so i think this is sufficient for office of woody44
potent wedge
ipv4 is boring
I see, more boring = easier to use for conputers
void void
I think I can find application for all these addresses
If IANA was better at what the're doing
sage vessel
i don't even know how to say such a big number
sage vessel
one septillion,
two hundred eight sextillion,
nine hundred twenty five quintillion,
eight hundred nineteen quadrillion,
six hundred fourteen trillion,
six hundred twenty nine billion,
one hundred seventy four million,
seven hundred six thousand,
one hundred seventy six
this is a big number
void void
Hmm ....
potent wedge
Very big
potent wedge
Ack we need a new one for space
void void
I mean
If you want to sprawdzić people around the Universe
potent wedge
Like :system:planet:IP:IP2:IP3
brave mountain
so i think this is sufficient for office of woody44
most easy to understand: 670 billion addresses per square millimeter of the Earth's surface.
void void
If it was in ipv4 every planet should be a single or couple of LAN networks
brave mountain
I see, more boring = easier to use for conputers
just a few characters? naa, more harder for humans
void void
In ipv6 every device has unique address
potent wedge
Can't Ip7 just index to a local server in 100 miles
It would keep location safe
Then it can bounce to a closer 50 mile server with seperate encryption or something
brave mountain
first?
potent wedge
first?
Notchian server has no support for non-IPV4 another internet dumb vulnerability
brave mountain
are mc clients ipv6 compatible?
brave mountain
let's try it?
void void
Yeah
sage vessel
Notchian server has no support for non-IPV4 another internet dumb vulnerability
it works everywhere but freebsd
brave mountain
I have a test server in digital ocean
potent wedge
Well everyone who uses java is spaghet, I swear when I see someone who uses java do something in a language I'm bothered to learn
Def _printm(I):
print(I)
void void
Oh hi
golden gust
Older versions had it disabled, however
brave mountain
I was waiting a expert's answer
potent wedge
Cool
golden gust
I just gave up tryna sleep so am like, brain dead rn
golden gust
Kinda miss simple being around, we'd be on the same like, wavelength/perceived IQ level
void void
XD
potent wedge
Who's simple and what happened