general

[warm anchor]

and the potato that runs it

[little frost]

pretty sure the JNI would become the new bottleneck instead

[pastel reef]

Well I'm back on my main Laptop which has an Intel Core i7-1165g7 and Xe graphics

[warm anchor]

install fabric and the entire periodic table mods then

[pastel reef]

Already did

Sorry, I used preferable incorrectly

60 fps in a chubby 1.18.2 world at 16 render distance with the cooling on full speed, and a near spontaneous crash along the way.

[ripe sphinx]

eternity clientside optimization guide ❤️

aka excuse #2 for paper chan exposure

[warm anchor]

it's really more like the mod I used guide

[pastel reef]

For like 10 minutes it ran at 180-300fps

[ripe sphinx]

meh I've been using it for probably a year now and it runs like butter

[warm anchor]

thats not good enough for you !??

[pastel reef]

It is, but this isn't

[ripe sphinx]

granted my new laptop is a banger, RTX 3060 + R7 5800H + 16GB, so might be unrelated

s/R5R7

fk

[warm anchor]

you now have 1000fps

[vestal jasper]

:^)

Periodic table gang

[warm anchor]

hello vic

hell yeahhh!

[left swift]

papermc makes my fps dont 1000

I put papermc jar from site in mod folder now my dog is throwing up how do I fix

[foggy veldt]

paper fix apex legends servers eta wen

[stuck lynx]

When will paper fortnite server 1000 pro vbucks hack 2000$ free?

[brave mountain]

OMG I was wrong

[warm anchor]

@static badge

[tropic flame]

Lenovo Legion?

[ripe sphinx]

si

[tropic flame]

nice

could tell by the specs xd

quite pricy tho but pretty good

[teal raptor]

what are some small features of your minecraft server that often go unnoticed by players but add a lot

[magic river]

Imaging thinking everything on the History Channel is true because they only show true historical things

[tropic flame]

do they actually still show history in their channel?

thought they had given in to just talking about aliens and crap like that

conspiracy theories

[silver nexus]

Change death messages… if you’re really evil, add a typo to a vanilla message, see if anyone notices, and then say you’ll fix it, but never actually fix it…

[teal raptor]

that...

is perfect.

[brave mountain]

Now to ban people permanently need some ICBM attached to your discord bot.

[tropic flame]

what do you mean

i mean they're just offering easy account switching

it was never banned to have multiple discord accounts in their ToS to begin with

[brave mountain]

didn´t get it?

[tropic flame]

yeah i didn't really understand

[brave mountain]

need watch some beluga

[spare venture]

discord bans are ip bans anyway, so theyd have to do more than just switching accounts

[brave mountain]

Really?, But who handles that the bots or discord itself?

[ripe sphinx]

discord itself

they obviously don't expose user IPs anywhere

[warm anchor]

Discord TOS say they may/may not ban all your associated account based on the violation severity so better make sure you aint breaking THE LAW

[brave mountain]

Well is understandable because discord usernames are pretty straightforward anyway.

Tos = cough in Spanish 😅

[spiral robin]

oh yeah? 24.172.578.48

watch your back.

[wraith trail]

They only ban new joins though. Existing accounts are not banned

[warm anchor]

[spare venture]

i'd be careful saying something like that. a certain someone got banned for making a joke like that

[spiral robin]

ok

😭

[spare venture]

meant discord banned

[spiral robin]

https://bentley.tadhg.sh/-2.gif

[warm anchor]

This emoji is honestly so nice. For a limited frame rate and limited file size that looks so fucking smooth on animation @spiral robin

very jealous

[spiral robin]

lax epic

when i'm home

[marble lark]

VPN go brr

[potent wedge]

How get no table role

[ripe sphinx]

no table = notable

to get it you must be notable

[potent wedge]

Awww I'll never be notable

New role with paper chan emoji then

[ripe sphinx]

not sure why that aber guy has it though

[potent wedge]

Aber saw that

[ripe sphinx]

jk ily aber

[potent wedge]

Aber saw both of those comments

[true canyon]

I lack furniture

[silver nexus]

I have to put a sign on the door telling the family that I cannot fix the internet, there is an outage.

If I do not do that, they come into my room at 4 AM asking if I can fix the internet…

[warm anchor]

I am more concerned that your room has no lock

[vernal moth]

Did you lock your room when you went to sleep as a kid? Lol

[proud lance]

why would you need to lock your room as a kid?

apart from like privacy for changing or something

[warm anchor]

Yes I do! That being said my childhood house isn’t your normal cookie cutter

[proud lance]

Eternity scared of monsters

[warm anchor]

My room open up to the outside

Basically imagine a building that looks like a ㄇ and with a garden in the middle

So technically if someone would’ve break into the land they could direct access to each room

I guess it’s called a court yard not garden but you got the idea??

[warm anchor]

I did actually. Used to have place in my house that I would never go

[lavish compass]

@warm anchor weeb

[warm anchor]

@lavish compass

[vernal moth]

sent 461727 bytes received 1904515998 bytes 2067257.43 bytes/sec
total size is 1901544237 speedup is 1.00

rsync pls

me sad

this was supposed to be incremental

[tropic flame]

happy birthday, minidigger!

[vernal moth]

thanks!

[stuck lynx]

Happy birthday!

[golden gust]

Happy birth hi... Mini

[worn ember]

[foggy silo]

Happy birthday 🎉

[vernal moth]

thanks guys

[pastel reef]

I once tried shaders with an NVIDIA 9400M, it failed to render my hunger bar.

[golden gust]

The M stands for Massivelyshite

2008

explains it all, I remember back in those days the mobile variants of chips often had fairly shitty drivers

Not only where the mobile chips more power limited to save go-go juice, but the GPU drivers often sucked ass and caused many dozen rendering artifacts, etc

[vernal moth]

am in a good mood so ill take the bait, I don't think paper has taken longer than 3 or 4 days for any of the last updates, so if you wanna hate us, you gotta choose a better reason

[void void]

hello

i need a suggestion pls

like im making my own minecraft server network

and i want it to be open for offline users as well so i wanna add a manual auth server

any ideas on how to do it

[timber sentinel]

offline mode is not supported here

[left swift]

all I learned is eternity childhood house had a courtyard and hes rich

no wonder ur a weeb

[foggy veldt]

Happy birthday mini digger

[left swift]

mini is old

[eager rampart]

Does anyone have alternative for https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/mysql-player-data-bridge.8117/

[charred sleet]

anyone good with nginx here

am trying to set up my websocket server through nginx and its got me so confused lol

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/2ab9063156614072bdf1ab86fe472a61/files/da523a57bae740a1a0015be255ed8941/raw

ive gotten this in my config but it is not working and i keep getting these SSL Errors:
ssl.SSLCertVerificationError: [SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED] certificate verify failed: unable to get local issuer certificate

and then on my server:
assert headers['upgrade'].lower() == 'websocket'
KeyError: 'upgrade'

[golden gust]

getting those ssl errors from where? a client?

[charred sleet]

yeah just from a test python script

[golden gust]

do you have a valid SSL cert which isn't self signed?

Cos, you are no doubt using invalid SSL certs

[charred sleet]

i have the one from cloudfare

[golden gust]

which isn't a valid SSL cert

at least, not publically

[charred sleet]

oh

[golden gust]

CF issues certs which they've signed themselves, not using a publically trusted chain, as it's not really important there (I mean, the company terminating the connection is the ones issuing the certs, so, they can validate that stuff themselves)

But, if you want stuff on the internet to work with it, you'd need to ensure that the connections actually go through CF so that they can reterminate the SSL connection, or, use a valid cert

fwiw, see letsencrypt

[charred sleet]

ok ill have a look

thanks

[charred sleet]

yeah nice that did fix it - thanks

[quick obsidian]

i committed sin

[silver nexus]

I just had a geometry teacher, at the High School level, go on a 5 minute rant about how math teachers have to spend "too much energy" to not have questions with 69 as their answer...

[golden gust]

I mean, I can see why they have to ensure that that's not the case, but, lol

[silver nexus]

Not really lol. For what Paper does, it's a pretty quick update process, all things considered, and it's most certainly worth the wait. You're welcome to use Spigot if you feel the update times for Paper are too long...

[warm anchor]

You know old Asian farmhouse has court yard too

[wet storm]

h..h~hap..~happy..~^^ b..~ birthday!!~~

[left swift]

so quirky and fun!

[worn ember]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-copeharder-coping-keepcoping-gif-21255783

[wet storm]

wait, happy birthday = hb = happens before. Hence learn JMM.

[left swift]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-care-didnt-ask-raccoon-dance-gif-15954174

[left swift]

^

[worn ember]

JMM = jo mama?

[left swift]

[wet storm]

Jo Machine Maker

[left swift]

4 minutes typing for that

[worn ember]

hes not the fastest on the block

[left swift]

got the boomer tapping keyboard mechanics

[wet storm]

Java Memory Model

[left swift]

https://tenor.com/view/twin-peaks-old-people-typing-one-finger-typing-technology-out-of-touch-gif-9186182

[worn ember]

lmao my college got hacked a week ago and now they got paranoid and changed settings and now i gotta login to my windows mail every few hours cuz it expires

[wet storm]

I wonder, which synchronizing mechanism uses human's brain to avoid data races causing by different sources of electricity computing something parallel in neurons

and, is it real to make brain memory model

[full rune]

happy birthday mini

[little frost]

happy birthday mini

[ashen nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-f-are-you-on-a-bout-what-are-you-saying-what-do-you-mean-karl-urban-the-boys-gif-15594364

happy birthday mini

[hexed dragon]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-22w16a

[twin lagoon]

LWJGL library has been updated to version 3.3.1
Added a heap memory allocation metric to the F3 debug screen

might just be a good update for m1 users

[magic river]

Check the manifest or whatever, see if they're pulling that in

I think they just grab all the natives regardless of what you're running on?

huh -XX:HeapDumpPath=MojangTricksIntelDriversForPerformance_javaw.exe_minecraft.exe.heapdump

[unreal pike]

is there a special reason to use play.domain.com instead of domain.com to connect?

[twin lagoon]

SRV records are unreliable

and people generally don't host their website on the same server as their minecraft server (or throw cloudflare proxying on top of it)

[unreal pike]

i c

[twin lagoon]

additional perk is that you can do hostname tracking but that's generally only an important thing for people who advertise on a million platforms

[wet storm]

Ohhh Moosic no one cares about tech changes, music changes are the best. /s

[magic river]

So it's in there but I think it won't use it?

They don't seem to have designed a way to use different natives based on os/arch combo, only os

[twin lagoon]

the launcher still uses the x86 macos jre too

[magic river]

Poor arm64 windows users though are just snubbed entirely 😄

arm64 linux users probably know how to build their own lwjgl and patch it in

[wet storm]

I am still surprised that mojang supports linux for the game, the most of the video games don't care about it at all

[unreal pike]

thank you michael

[magic river]

Well, they "support" it 😛

For I think a few years the mouse capture was just broken unless you manually upgraded the lwjgl

[twin lagoon]

perks of using a cross-platform language

[little frost]

just so happens java runs anywhere

[golden gust]

it's "free" support

(for the most part)

[twin lagoon]

there's no anticheat to worry about either

so no reason not to support it

[magic river]

They wouldn't upgrade lwjgl because that caused problems on Windows (which they eventually "solved" by telling older Intel iGPU users to get fucked) and didn't put any effort in to doing different versions for each OS or patching lwjgl to backport the fix

[wet storm]

I mean, they care about narrator for linux, rendering, and other things, at least they started doing it, cuz versions such as 1.12.2 don't handle my keyboard lol

[twin lagoon]

narrator can just use a generic text to speech library?

[magic river]

Most of that they get automatically from lwjgl

[twin lagoon]

and yeah the rest is lwjgl

[magic river]

It has GL in the name but it's not just OpenGL bindings

It's the Java version of SDL

It's not a binding to SDL either though, it's GLFW and a bunch of other things

[golden gust]

http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/flite.1.html

is what tts uses, so, it's basically just calling out to an external program

[wet storm]

"The launcher meta has natives-macos-arm64 to allow it to officially run natively (not through Rosetta 2) on new Mac computers that use Apple silicone processors. Loom will require a small update to support this, and to disable the patches we apply to older versions to achieve the same result." - FabricMC

[magic river]

Perhaps they didn't change the manifest but just added some logic in the launcher itself to special case this

I would have thought they'd change it to work like their arguments system where they have allow/deny rules it works through based on os, arch, os version, gpu, etc to decide if an argument should be added to the javaw call

Maybe not that complicated but yeah

Also that allow/deny thing is basically a scripting language 😄

You can't read back the arguments and do conditionals based on what other arguments are being used though so not Turing complete

ooh, FedEx got ambitious and my Steam Deck is supposed to be here today after all

This was the original date but then it got delayed a day, I guess they recovered

[wet storm]

Okay, I'll check it out of interest, because "I don't see why you would use anything not developed by Mojang, the developer of Minecraft. They want to make sure everything runs properly." and vanilla components are fun

[magic river]

I wasn't saying Fabric was special casing it btw, they obviously were by putting in explicit M1 support

I meant the vanilla launcher

YouTube autoplay decided I should listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzQ6gRAEoy0 so I guess it's time to cry

[warm anchor]

[magic river]

It was quite a jump from that to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg5dn6o-mME

Also, this channel is called Eternity and has a little anime figure mascot...

[warm anchor]

Coincidence hmmm

[twin lagoon]

weebs

[magic river]

[warm anchor]

Acute

[magic river]

I like that Valve doesn't fuck around with doing a custom tracking thing or sending you to some third party tracking service, their "Track product" link just go to FedEx same as you would if looking it up manually

[warm anchor]

Getting your steam deck

[magic river]

Yeah, out of delivery

[golden gust]

I mean, joys of it all that we praise companies for not doing stupid shit to obfuscate info in some form of manner

[ancient bolt]

The actual carrier's track page is 100% of the time better, I hate that shit

I feel like that stuff exists purely because some PM is like "we can't risk them leaving our site!"

[magic river]

I definitely don't have any code to call the FedEx API so we can show details in our app instead of sending you to the website, nope none at all

I think the code is actually broken though, pretty sure we never get an estimated arrival date from it

[ancient bolt]

mobile apps makes sense since context switching on mobile is much more expensive. But there should still be a direct link if that's what the user wants

[magic river]

We mostly use it to show if it's delayed or not to show the order status and then the tracking number is right next to that

We have ETA, status, and tracking number (if available)

[ancient bolt]

yeah but do you have live GPS tracking of the carrier truck en route??

if not gtfo

I really don't give a shit about "where the package is on the map", but amazon sure thinks I do

[golden gust]

oh god, I love the GPS tracking

but, I've been with my landlord within like 2 houses, and BOY does he pick em

first place I lived with him wasn't in royal mails address database

[ancient bolt]

The UK doesn't sound real

is 2022

still uses the term "royal" unironcially

[quick obsidian]

in england rn: can confirm i'm not real

[golden gust]

the place I'm in now, the enterance to the place is around the back, where the front door would be, i.e. at the front of the building near the road, is just a wall

god, I wish I wasn't real

[ancient bolt]

that can be arranged

[golden gust]

Damn, royal mail goes back to 1516

The UK was the first country to use postal stamps, apparently

[ancient bolt]

you're gonna make me go postal

[magic river]

Steam Deck get

Forgot to get an SD card

I've probably got a 32GB or something around here somewhere but bleh

[ancient bolt]

Steam Deck get rekt
amirite

[magic river]

Just found a 64GB sitting on my desk 😄

[ancient bolt]

what's on it

[magic river]

U3, I think?

Which is kind of terrible, it's basically state of the art 2014 or so

Looks like this is an/the SD card for my RG250M

Err, maybe that's not the right letters

[ancient bolt]

This is one of the best microSD cards I could find, got it for my OLED switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09B1HYPR9/

[magic river]

RG350M?

Yeah, RG350M

It's a little handheld emulation machine

Steam Deck is replacing that thing anyway so...

[ancient bolt]

160MB/s was the fastest card I could find that was reliable and could actually maintain that speed

gotta get the 512GB model though for fastest speeds, the smaller cards are a decent bit slower

[hexed dragon]

22w16b out

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-22w16a

[worthy geode]

Game crashing when clicking Singleplayer
Well.

[brave mountain]

I think is coming sooner than expected

[void void]

lol

[wet storm]

British = royal. Anglican = royal. Royal paper.

[brave mountain]

'Ejmm' MS account 'ejmm'

[void void]

@cosmic raft I am here to request write access to #adorable-pets

pretty please?

[little frost]

literally just added .filter(Objects::nonNull) lol

[little frost]

i can vouch for adorable kitty

[void void]

pleading_face

[wet storm]

atlas, large size paper = royal paper.

[magic river]

Either they ship this thing deader than dead or I got a DOA unit

Maybe I should use their charger for the initial charge, just in case mine isn't putting out full power to it

Yeah... I think it wasn't even charging before

[daring cape]

Will papermc get 1.18.30 soon?

[wide chasm]

1.18.30 doesn't exist.

[daring cape]

On bedrock

[wide chasm]

Paper doesn't support Bedrock.

[magic river]

That sounds like a Geyser question

[daring cape]

Then how does it work for me ?

Ik but it says papermc

[vernal moth]

Talk to your host

[daring cape]

I am the host lol

[wide chasm]

Ask Geyser, they do all of the Bedrock on Java stuff

[magic river]

Paper doesn't support Bedrock, Geyser makes Bedrock work with Paper

[vernal moth]

Then you have geyser installed

[daring cape]

Ok ty im very confused but ima find out

[wet storm]

Okay, time to see what mojank did

[magic river]

https://github.com/GeyserMC/Geyser/issues/2935

Although 1.18.30 support was added 3 days ago so maybe they're on an old build or that bug is something else

So yeah, update Geyser, problem solved

[daring cape]

Ik this will sound dumb but how do i update geyser cause papermc is connected with it

Soo idk cause i download it but then wont show up on paper mc so idk

Cause im using it with aternos

[spiral robin]

@warm anchor

[warm anchor]

Good morning aber

[brave mountain]

Geysermc is mostly always up to date,if you update it, and only support lastest papermc

[brave mountain]

Use geyserconnect

[magic river]

Ok, so using a USB-A to USB-C cable on this charger is no good, have to use a USB-C cable to get the Steam Deck to recognize it

Makes sense I guess, I think the USB-A port can only do 25W or something

I use that cable to charge my phone and such

Kind of annoying, the Steam Deck apparently had plenty of battery life but refused to turn on until it was plugged in

I guess they really want you to charge it first 😄

[warm anchor]

What you gonna do with it? Install Minecraft?

[magic river]

Binding of Isaac machine

[warm anchor]

Oh nice

Handheld is good if you play in bed

[magic river]

Congrats! You got one of the first Steam Decks off the factory floor. This being the case, the system software (specifically Steam Deck's BIOS) requires an update.

jeez

[warm anchor]

First generation perk (?)

[magic river]

It's probably the update to make Windows work

And also the update that puts in a nicer UI for BIOS updates 😄

The rest of the message was about how this will be a scary sideways screen but it'll be fine and future updates won't look like this

Apparently it's called "CHACHANI-VANGOGH"

[warm anchor]

Finally steam got a hardware that people buys

I have the original steam link from 2016-7 (?)

[magic river]

https://twitter.com/_rogame/status/1372195634170724361

_rogame (@_rogame)

AMD Chachani-VN

VANGOGH 0x1002:0x163F

Twitter · Mar 17, 2021, 2:38 PM

I have a Steam Link and Steam Controller

[warm anchor]

Wow my fellow valve hardware enjoyer

[magic river]

Never really used the controller, couldn't get used to it

[warm anchor]

The only thing I am missing is VR

[little frost]

surely the index was successful?

[magic river]

Used the Steam Link a few times

[wet storm]

I see atomic, runs

[magic river]

Oh god imagine playing Getting Over It on this thing

I'd probably break it

[wet storm]

idk why I notice concurrency terms in huge amounts of texts, it triggers my brain or something

[void void]

Yeah… don’t play that game on throwable hardware

[warm anchor]

Just chain it

To your wrist

[magic river]

Ok, I've got Isaac, Carto, Dead Cells, Indivisible, Pine, and Tales of Vesperia on there

Now I just need to get some emulators

[wet storm]

play geometry dash instead /s

[warm anchor]

Where is Dota 2

[magic river]

ha

Thanks for the reminder, I should uninstall that on my desktop

[warm anchor]

[magic river]

I have "66 hours" of playtime but that's like 3-5 hours of trying to learn how to play and the rest using it to watch TI

But I just watch streams for that now

[vernal moth]

First gen steam controller here

Stupid thing is only good to make music

[magic river]

Was there a second gen?

[vernal moth]

Kinda, the build quality got better later

Not good, but better

I think they changed the plastic too

[magic river]

I've been told they're kind of worth some money these days since the people who liked them are fanatical

[vernal moth]

I'll sell my dusty one for 1000 euros

[magic river]

The last two times I tried to use it I plugged in a USB cord and wondered why it wasn't charging before remembering it takes AA batteries and that cord is just for firmware updates

New in box Steam Controller is $130 on ebay

Otherwise they're like $50 at most

[worthy geode]

I remember using one a few times at a friends place but it just felt a bit weird, like my hands were too small for it or something

[vernal moth]

Oh I have big hands and it's still an ergonomical disaster, don't worry

[magic river]

Yeah that was a big problem with it, felt too small

I also just couldn't get used to using the touchpads and gyro as a replacement for either a joystick or a mouse

There was one game iirc where it worked great for me but for the rest I'd rather use an xbox controller

[magic river]

Oh yeah, today is Mini birthday

[warm anchor]

Also hitlers! Mini told me last year!

[prime coral]

[warm anchor]

#general message

[static badge]

https://tenor.com/view/germany-flag-german-flag-gif-17802888

[static badge]

https://imgur.com/ij95uWn

[full rune]

[unkempt drift]

average server admin moment? https://forums.papermc.io/threads/all-player-advancements-reset.272/post-811

[ashen cliff]

@twin lagoon can confirm.

[twin lagoon]

couldn't be me though

i just disable advancements and statistics

garbage memory usage

[ashen cliff]

Per world?

[unkempt drift]

but how many bongs have you bought from people buying admin for your server?

[twin lagoon]

atleast -1

[unkempt drift]

its really the description of the bong, and the attached image that do it for me

[twin lagoon]

@viral hornet gave me money to buy a bong for 30 seconds of work

[waxen panther]

🤨

[twin lagoon]

josh you're a heroin addict you have no rights

[waxen panther]

😩

true, carry on

[twin lagoon]

THE REPLY

also is there any wway i could upload a video of me ripping it? its in windows movie maker format

[unkempt drift]

LOL, didnt even see that one

wtf

[twin lagoon]

[vestal jasper]

:(

[twin lagoon]

@vestal jasper wtf no not you

[vestal jasper]

That is a nice bong tho

Don't think that'd be the first thing I'd drop $300 on

[viral hornet]

why 🤨

michael is epic

came in with the clutch

[twin lagoon]

epic

[radiant oriole]

THIS SHIT GOT POSTED IN MY DISCORD LOOOOL

BUT HE DROPPED THE BONG PICTURE

NOT THE POST

[unkempt drift]

lol

[radiant oriole]

LOOOL HOLY SHIT

[void void]

hope we get the video

[radiant oriole]

Hope our king comes in clutch

[waxen panther]

🙏

[ashen nacelle]

anyone know why this isnt working correct?
I am tring to automatically mark lose as a 1 if win is marked 0.
it marks win just fine if win is marked as 1 but will not mark lose as 1 if win is 0

if ('{win}' != 0)
    { 
    '{Loss}' == 0;
    }
else
    {
    '{Loss}' == 1;
    }

[radiant oriole]

Single = for assignment, double == for comparison.

[ashen nacelle]

i switch loss to single = and it breaks with error 500

and i run a syntax check and it says i need ==

got it

took out the ' '

[red timber]

LOOOL

[twin lagoon]

@red timber

[red timber]

michale can you get me bong like that 🥺

[twin lagoon]

oh my god since when are you alive @limpid comet

[red timber]

long lost soul

[spiral robin]

????

[twin lagoon]

[spiral robin]

[radiant oriole]

I don’t know how to feel about my community support channel turning into a discussion about bongs but it’s fucking funny as hell LOOL

[vernal moth]

I didn't know bongs were that expensive

Then again, I own a hookah that is worth in that range too

[worthy geode]

but it got thick glass!

[radiant oriole]

Has ice catcher too!

[vestal jasper]

Small ones could cost you like $30

[radiant oriole]

Make no mistake that is a massive bong

That is a king-sized bong

[vestal jasper]

Yeah this is not a small one

Not sure I could justify the price of a big one

That could easily be $30 for a bong and $270 of flower

Or better yet invest in backups...

[wet storm]

Thoughts? (#832357051463630947 message)

[twin lagoon]

only 2 years too late

[vestal jasper]

Thoughts? pizza sounds good rn

[twin lagoon]

Please write an RFC on why you think this

[wide chasm]

What's Quilt again?

[twin lagoon]

fabric

[vestal jasper]

a kind of blanket

[twin lagoon]

@vestal jasper uwu

[vestal jasper]

uwu

[wide chasm]

I'll take the blanket then

[vernal moth]

Quilt was created after the fabric meltdown iirc

That's ban worthy, right?

[twin lagoon]

I agree with this, especially if it can incorporate the Opensea or Coinbase NFT market into the client

[void void]

maybe hangar can hook into this?

[twin lagoon]

I would love to put my BAYC ape next to my nametag

[vernal moth]

Binance dropped a branded twitter hashtag with a swastika as image today, on Hitlers birthday, so that's cool

[twin lagoon]

What network would be used for this

[radiant oriole]

What if on our dao we implemented a 10% tax to prevent rug pulls

[twin lagoon]

Blockylands L2 on Binance Smart Chain

[radiant oriole]

But then increased it to 100%

[void void]

https://quiltmc.org/about/ has a summary

[twin lagoon]

Blockylands fork

[radiant oriole]

• has 100% tax

[wide chasm]

lmao the RFC isn't even a joke

[radiant oriole]

you forgot to add that

[twin lagoon]

they have RFCs on everything

[wide chasm]

wtf

[void void]

right after hangar is finished

roughly 2054

[wide chasm]

Not, we'll be switching to mailing lists

[radiant oriole]

Submit patches by mailing list

Make sure UMN gets blacklisted by the way

[rotund cargo]

Selling and bying even more useless services instead of spending your time and your money to save children starving (I'm quite pecemist ^^)

[wet storm]

ToinouH is typing... 👀

[wide chasm]

Quilt looks like it has a lot of teams for a project that just went into beta

[radiant oriole]

Patches only accepted by mailing list

Do not submit PR

Henceforth, we only use git in its purest form

“am”? Yeah that stands for “apply mailbox”

Tech debt

[vernal moth]

Bro culture

[radiant oriole]

Twitter followers/posts

[golden gust]

quilt is very, eeer...

[spiral robin]

Ego

[void void]

Development wise there is a lot that needs to be done and maintained ig

Most people are on multiple teams though

[golden gust]

well, it's basically a fork of all of the fabric stuff, and more democracy

[void void]

and 300$ bongs?

[radiant oriole]

I think we found a new meme

[wet storm]

I should more dive into quilt cuz I don't understand 99% terms you're using lol💀

[void void]

might have to set up an opencollective to pay for that

imagine being an opencollective admin and having to approve receipts for tens of bongs lol

[rotund cargo]

Fabric with Craftbukkit forks before: 😛
Fabric seeing Quilt (and ex fabric people being Quilt members): 🤧

[tropic flame]

it was already painful to make discord and IRC swap places here regarding importance

[rotund cargo]

At least they will bring new tools that other communities could use 🙂 (like we had with fernflower for eg)

[tropic flame]

let's not go back

[radiant oriole]

Mohistopia — async clouds — mod support — GPU accelerated — blackjack — hookers — FREE BONGS

[void void]

• mod support

let's throw that in too

[rotund cargo]

NFTWORLD > Yatopia+hybrids

at this point

[radiant oriole]

I legally cannot make this joke

[wet storm]

What was mohistopia? Like mohist + yatopia?

[radiant oriole]

I just made it up

But yes

[void void]

Does that contractual obligation expire at some point?

[radiant oriole]

Yes

[golden gust]

I'd just like to note

that NFTs are the future of the internet

No

NFTs are the future of the world

they will define all of society

[worthy geode]

still waiting for that Paper-Chan NFT

[radiant oriole]

I just want it to sell for more than spigot’s

[rotund cargo]

How much money from nft did you get from them ?

[radiant oriole]

Enough

I also didn’t have to break the law for my job duty

[rotund cargo]

They will have to buy my silence at some points

[radiant oriole]

Like, hypothetically, if I were selling unregistered securities, then I would need to break the law for my job duty. But because I did not opt to be paid in unregistered securities, nor was I involved with unregistered securities in any way, either by facilitating their use or handling them at all, as I explained to the SEC, I’m not liable for any unregistered security-related offenses that may or may not have allegedly taken place or which may or may not allegedly be ongoing

If that makes any sense

[rotund cargo]

(my brain is burning at 11pm)

[radiant oriole]

Did you rip a $300 bong?

[rotund cargo]

Never, I pay in €

[wet storm]

€300 bong then

[rotund cargo]

Never (I don't touch this shit) but it took me a moment to realize the joke x')

Between 11pm and 8am my brain is

[wet storm]

My classmates thought that I smoked a weed yesterday looking at me at 7 am at my school today lol

[copper relic]

https://github.com/PaperMC/DataConverter/blob/master/src/main/java/ca/spottedleaf/dataconverter/minecraft/versions/V502.java#L35

does vanilla do that too?

[limpid comet]

[cosmic phoenix]

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/33b00a55d26d42749d9b750670f54afb

yes

[unkempt drift]

it doesnt use the thread local random, but yeah

[copper relic]

xD that's pretty funny

the question is, does it matter enough to translate that into rust

probably not worth the extra dependency

oman stop looking at my rich presence :p

xD

[brave radish]

welp, haven't checked this Discord in quite a while now, but after about 60 seconds in #paper-help the current conversation came up and it seems it hasn't changed much

ooh docs are pretty

[native wolf]

oh hi ZCM

[golden gust]

I heard that he may be a zombie

but, I have doubts on the "man" part

[lime spear]

anyone know how to install forge onto ubuntu server

[unborn jay]

Who'd like to check/criticise my server's hub? and first impression overall?

[lime spear]

is there a forge server?

[unborn jay]

Yes, forge itself has a server version you can get with it's installer

[lime spear]

i meant teh discord server

lmao

[twin lagoon]

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1516911412202901504

AFP News Agency (@AFP)

#BREAKING Police order US Capitol evacuation, citing aircraft posing 'probable threat'

Twitter · Apr 20, 2022, 10:47 PM

[lime spear]

lmao third world war

[lime spear]

does anybody know if forge has a discord server

[twin lagoon]

discord.gg/forge

[lime spear]

thank you

[ashen cliff]

Nah bro. That was too easy.

[waxen panther]

@static badge

[teal raptor]

So I hate displaying Lives with the Heart Symbol (❤️)
I like the approach of using the Heart Symbol instead (🫀)
But when I use the Heart Symbol (🫀) in Minecraft, it just displays as a Unicode Square.

Is there a way to somehow use this Heart Symbol (🫀)

[twin lagoon]

not without a resource pack

the default minecraft font is fairly limited

would personally also just stick to the normal heart symbol, the actual heart symbol you want to use is very hard to recognize from a distance

[unkempt drift]

So brave. https://twitter.com/peta/status/1516833951674904579?s=21&t=8U-AVr_u3X6uYUqj89GD0A

PETA (@peta)

We’re not going anywhere @Starbucks!

Literally, we’re superglued to your counter 🥴
https://t.co/i5ZLHifN6i

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Twitter · Apr 20, 2022, 5:39 PM

Supergluing your hand to a counter?

[tropic flame]

[golden gust]

end vegan milk upcharge

How dare you charge more as a fancy middle class establishment for a product which generally costs more?!

[vestal jasper]

Nah let's just deface property and inconvenience people who have nothing to do with the decision

[spare venture]

its peta

[lilac moon]

byte

[dire folio]

minecraft fr gotta auto-update on bedrock

:(

[spare venture]

bedrock

[dire folio]

yuh ppl playin bedrock cant join my server now until paper 1.18.3 goes live

wish u could choose what version to play on bedrock

big rip

[spare venture]

yet another reason to never use it

[dire folio]

yeah lmao

which is why i play java :b

[unkempt drift]

wait theres 1.18.3?

[spare venture]

bedrock 1.18.30

[lilac moon]

Wouldn't that require a geyser update then, not paper?

[unkempt drift]

well afaik there isn't going to be a paper 1.18.3

I dont think mojang is releasing a 1.18.3 for java edition

[magic river]

People think Paper is what makes Bedrock work, not Geyser

I think it's because hosts are shitty and people don't bother to learn

[dire folio]

nah ik geyser is the floodgate that allows bedrock players in

but paper is nice for plugins

[wraith trail]

I think there might still be a misunderstanding, paper version does not relate to bedrock version

[magic river]

Then why did you say "ppl playin bedrock cant join my server now until paper 1.18.3 goes live"?

[wraith trail]

by updating Geyser you'll allow bedrock 1.18.3 players to join your paper server

[magic river]

Is there even a bedrock 1.18.3? Not sure how versioning works over there

They want 1.18.30 though

[dire folio]

hmm ok

all i know is im running a 1.18.2 paper server

with geyser fully updated

[magic river]

Geyser isn't fully updated

You know how I can tell? 1.18.30 bedrock players can't join 😛

[dire folio]

this is why im asking tho

because i dont know

[magic river]

Download geyser from their website

[dire kestrel]

good evening
First of all, sorry I don't know if it's appropriate to ask this here...

How could I make a system that every x time I play in my coin server in the lobby to buy things?

[magic river]

I don't think they really do releases. They seem to bump version numbers every so often but their download link just gets you the latest build from their master branch

[lilac moon]

Either geyser isn't updated or geyser doesn't support that version yet I assume

[magic river]

Geyser added support for it 3 days ago

They even bumped a version number right after doing it

So perhaps if they do actually make releases on somewhere not their website you'd still get one that works so long as you got the latest

But just get the one from their website

[dire folio]

okay thank you

[spare venture]

make a plugin
every x amount of time, check their playerdata, if their playtime has increased by X, give them a coin

[magic river]

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1516941492862201856

AFP News Agency (@AFP)

#UPDATE "Outrageous and inexcusable."

Top Democratic lawmaker Nancy Pelosi blasts "apparent negligence" of the US aviation agency after a misunderstanding over a parachute stunt prompted police to evacuate the Capitol in Washington, causing what she called "unnecessary panic"

Twitter · Apr 21, 2022, 12:46 AM

[dire kestrel]

I don't know how to create plugins 😦

[spare venture]

learn 😄

[dire kestrel]

Isn't there a plugin that does this?

[magic river]

No idea, for stuff like that I always just did it myself because it's a pretty trivial plugin

[upbeat falcon]

[1.12-1.18] ~ LitePlaytimeRewards | Customizable playtime rewards ...

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/1-12-1-18-liteplaytimerewards-customizable-playtime-rewards-with-ease.71784/

LitePlaytimeReward can be adjusted to fit any server and give the player a unique experience while playing. [​IMG] REWARD CONFIGURATIONS.

About 9,890,000 results (0.32 seconds)

Time is Money | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/time-is-money.12409/

Earn money for being online! ... Beside the payouts, Time Is Money also includes a great ATM solution, that is mainly designed to deposit ...

About 13,100 results (0.34 seconds)

[magic river]

To be more specific, you should end up here https://ci.opencollab.dev//job/GeyserMC/job/Geyser/job/master/

[dire kestrel]

Any recommendations to start creating plugins?
Any guide or something?

[warm anchor]

Man this site is so USEFUL. Would be shameful people would try to use it!

@dire kestrel see TWO link above stright from google...

[upbeat falcon]

How to Make a Minecraft Plugin | First Plugin (Ep. 1) - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaU8JKQW0Ao

Feb 25, 2017 ... Minecraft Hosting: https://pixelhost.orgIn Episode 1 of how to make a Minecraft plugin we begin with the basics of setting up your first IDE ...

About 19,600,000 results (0.36 seconds)

[warm anchor]

[dire kestrel]

Yes, I'm looking at them, thank you very much

[dire kestrel]

❤️

[magic river]

As far as making plugins I'd start with #general message

[spare venture]

i hate it when people say "full stop"

[warm anchor]

barty hates british

[spare venture]

therefore i hate larry

[magic river]

brocc still has silly name

[spare venture]

i did not know destiny still existed

[dire folio]

aight appreciate it

[spare venture]

best buy gave destiny 2 to me for free for some reason when i bought another game in 2018

[jagged egret]

hey does anyone know how to get Ubuntu to only use dedicated laptop graphics? I have a laptop with Radeon integrated graphics and an Nvidia graphics card and getting it to connect to multiple monitors is proving to be a pain, I think because it keeps relying on Radeon graphics

the monitors are connecting over USB-C as well which could have something to do with it

[vestal jasper]

From my limited experience, Nvidia settings

I've seen a couple cases where the person couldn't make it happen

[jagged egret]

Yeah I ended up just switching to windows :(

[unreal pier]

Could I have a copy of your flags?

Also what does /spark gc show

Better picture

[stuck lynx]

I usually say "."

[ashen cliff]

Oh no.

[tropic flame]

[golden gust]

Trending on twitter

[fair blade]

https://twitter.com/LetzSmash_SSB/status/1500915299163508739

Letz Smash (@LetzSmash_SSB)

⚠️New Discord Hack Technique⚠️

If you received a DM with a picture not loading;
DO NOT OPEN IT !

It will steal your Discord session Token and let the hacker change your password and use your account freely

The A2F does not protect against !

Report suspect activity to admins

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2408

Retweets

2041

Twitter · Mar 7, 2022, 7:24 PM

[chrome cosmos]

stop the CAP

[strong vector]

yea stop the cap

[fair blade]

what? this seems very real tbh

[strong vector]

nah it's not real

[chrome cosmos]

it is a link

[fair blade]

bruh it was posted on the official farming simulator discord so I thought it was real

[chrome cosmos]

embed

[chrome cosmos]

it was posted on a lot of servers

[void void]

When you open the image in your browser it redirects you to a fake login page

[cunning raft]

^ The link itself doesn't steal your token

That's not possible

[void void]

and if it was they would earn a lot more from properly reporting it than stealing random discord accounts lol

[pastel reef]

How do I use /function?

[fair blade]

what do you mean?

[round grove]

theory: couldnt the server you join store your authorisation and the owner of that server use that autorisation to join other servers as you?

[vernal moth]

No

[little frost]

you don't auth against the server, you auth against mojang

[vernal moth]

That's not how auth works, you auth against Mojang, not the server

[round grove]

yeah but then how can the server verify? isnt there a code sent to the server?

[vernal moth]

The server then just validates with Mojang

Yes but that's a one time hash, it has the server IP or something iirc

Check wiki.vg if in doubt

But basically, if there was a security issue, we would have found it in the last decade, lol

[little frost]

https://wiki.vg/Protocol_Encryption#Authentication

[round grove]

ohh ok

i thought minecraft was dumber

[little frost]

its proper crypto

[high mirage]

Don't use Ubuntu if the hardware is even somewhat modern, switcherooctl is what I use to run specific apps with my dGPU

USB-C you might have to convince everything to go through one or the other gpu to get working

[magic river]

It's not "proper" because we made it up 😛

Which you're never supposed to do with crypto 😄

[magic river]

Step 1 is probably to just install Windows on that piece of nvidia trash, sadly

Step 2 is to stop buying nvidia things so you can do this for real in the future

[ashen nacelle]

linux+nvidia is always a PITA

[magic river]

Anyway, install nvidia-prime and then launch things as prime-run cool_game instead of just cool_game

Oh, apparently after installing that you can also go in to the nvidia control panel and change your "prime profile"

All of this only works on X11 of course because nvidia is a dinosaur

[potent wedge]

yes lol, they dont have a employee dedicated to making drivers for linux

AMD with an employee dedicated to making drivers for linux

[pastel reef]

Is 30000545 blocks far?

[potent wedge]

yes

thats 1875034 chunks

[magic river]

AMD also has a few community people working on their drivers

[pastel reef]

That's my PB

[potent wedge]

wow

[magic river]

1 of the major contributors is afaik completely hobbyist, the rest work for Red Hat, Collabora, Valve, etc but that's the advantage of an open source driver

[potent wedge]

that means you need to have more than 520.223 hours on the game (assuming 1 chunk per second)

[magic river]

AMD is needed to do the bring up since they don't release documentation but then everyone can work on making it not suck

[pastel reef]

No, creative mode. I'm just trying to exceed the world boundary.

[ashen nacelle]

TBH Linux doesnt always play nice with new hardware

[magic river]

TBH Windows doesn't always play nice with new hardware

No one ships things stable anymore

[ashen nacelle]

true

[potent wedge]

how did you say something so strue

[magic river]

It's more likely to "work" with Windows since otherwise they wouldn't ship it at all but it might be a mess of bugs

[ashen nacelle]

i think we need to reset back to the DOS days 😛

[potent wedge]

I swear everything nowadays works only with the latest non-stable thing

[golden gust]

I mean, proper release cycles are a thing of the past in a sense

[pastel reef]

It says on the Minecraft wiki that 30000256 is the maximum but I got way further

[potent wedge]

yes, do you know how many people play minecraft snaopshots?

[golden gust]

gone are the days where you'd have to ship disks our or download a 100+ MB package over dialup to update software

[potent wedge]

well 1, thats outdated 2, mojang is trying to extend it to infinite

[ashen nacelle]

yeah its the maximum going beyond that you will start overwriting chunks

[golden gust]

and so, software companies can just sling stuff out fast with less testing, etc

[magic river]

iirc 30,000,256 is the width of the world, the maximum distance from spawn is half that

[potent wedge]

its suppost to be infinite so cant we just assume its infinite

[magic river]

In theory it's infinite, in practice computers have precision limits and the game isn't clever enough to do relative origins so it falls apart after some point

They put a hard wall in the code to stop you from going past where it really breaks

[potent wedge]

thats the world border

[magic river]

No

In the movement code there is literally an if (Math.abs(x) >= limit || Math.abs(z) >= limit) return false; kind of thing

Or there was

[potent wedge]

o

yeah but mojang has been trying to make it infinite

[magic river]

No?

[potent wedge]

you can see if you get past the border there are less bugs

like you can walk ontop of the grass

[magic river]

Pretty sure any fixes out there are a side effect of them making pieces of the game less shitty in general

[potent wedge]

yeah makes sense

[magic river]

Not a targeted effort

[potent wedge]

still works better though

[magic river]

Without doing relative origins they should really make it stop at like 500,000

I think around there is where you get the first of the walking jitters

[potent wedge]

well assuming one block every 0.5 seconds you can get to that in 69 hours

[ashen nacelle]

i have some stuff beyond 500,000 blocks out and bedrock players have issues out there

[magic river]

Gives me a headache being out that far

Unless you walk in perfect straight lines along NSEW you wobble

[ashen nacelle]

whats sad is i get higher FPS in Fedora Linux using wayland than i do in windows. And i am using a Nvidia GPU

[pastel reef]

Well, it needs to be said that NOTHING in this world beats Windows in terms of performance demand.

But it could also just be disc usage

[golden gust]

Thing is that everything is maths, and theres so many limitations

is it worth making all coords 64 bit?

[ashen nacelle]

the real kicker is windows is on an SSD and Linux is running on an old HDD that is in Caution.

[brave mountain]

Windows is forcing change to ssd, Windows 10/11 with HDD are becoming pretty unusable.

[ashen nacelle]

whats sad is I am getting better performance on linux with a HDD thats in prefailure than i get with windows on an SSD

[magic river]

I need one https://100soft.shop/collections/dumpster-fire/products/dumpster-fire-vinyl-figure

[ashen nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/dumpsterfire-dumpster-fire-whats-happening-gif-22146495

[brave mountain]

Cool

[stuck lynx]

I am now 22$ poorer

[brave mountain]

Who knows a plugin that can make shoot lightnings with a custom item?

[stuck lynx]

We do a little

[brave mountain]

Like the new thor love and thunder

[stuck lynx]

It's called a little

[brave mountain]

Why make something already exist?

[stuck lynx]

Why not?

[brave mountain]

Well just for fun

[stuck lynx]

Can you send a clip of how it looks in the movie?

[brave mountain]

If Elon Musk had said that, he wouldn't be the richest man 🤔

[brave mountain]

Is not changing the look of the items, it could be a enchanted sword, axe, pickaxe

Jut that when I use it shoots a thunder on the direction

[stuck lynx]

Like, from the sky, or from you?

[brave mountain]

Lightnings only exist from the sky right?

On Minecraft

[magic river]

From the sky I'm sure already exists, I think Essentials has a thing to do that even

From you I'm pretty sure you can't do

[vestal jasper]

Essentials has that and power tool afaik yeah

Should be able to do that with just ess

[brave mountain]

I was looking something more sophisticated, I found it
thank you

[full trellis]

Anyone got a minecraft host they would recommend? Having some issues with mine

[lament patio]

bloom.host, dedicatedmc

[magic river]

Well that's annoying

My charger will charge my vape via USB-A to USB-C but not my Steam Deck and a USB-C to USB-C will charge my Steam Deck but not my vape

My phone seems okay with both, probably charges faster with one of them

So I need two USB-C plugs sitting on my desk and have to remember what to plug in to what

[merry talon]

Try a Nintendo switch charger

It'll blow up all three

[spiral robin]

@warm anchor

[warm anchor]

@spiral robin

[spiral robin]

[quasi valley]

[spiral robin]

[stuck lynx]

Aternos

[worn crest]

i wouldnt recommend them

[stuck lynx]

Why not? Cheapest one on the market

[jagged egret]

wifi 6 is so beautiful

[worn crest]

cheap != good

[spiral robin]

[stuck lynx]

∞ ram/dollar

[stuck lynx]

What is that emoji?

[urban carbon]

which is better? mmoitems or mythiccrucible?

[stuck lynx]

define "better"

[ashen nacelle]

ok why dahell am i getting this now PHP Parse error: syntax error, unexpected '{' for this

if (isset({rs[0][0]}))     // Row found
{
...
}

This was working in a previous script just fine

[pastel pivot]

I need this for the description of somthing Anti-Xray related: What would you say is the proper term for a modded client with cheats: hack client, or hacked client? If i just Google one of those, hacked client seems to occur much more often, however, I think that hack client makes much more sense. I'd like to use it in a sentence like that: More clever hack(ed) clients can ...

[worn crest]

hack client I would say. because with the other thing i assume that the client is hacked/modified and with hack client i assume that the client is for hacking. but a modified client can also be for hacking.

[ashen nacelle]

here is the full code
https://pastebin.com/fBsepy1s

[pastel pivot]

Yeah that's what I'd assume too. I wonder why hacked client is used much more often tho.

[ashen nacelle]

my dumbass had a $1 instead of $i

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrie-frustrated-pulling-hair-no-frustrating-gif-14840761

[vernal moth]

Just call them cheat clients, that's the only term that makes sense tbh

[high mirage]

modified clients

[vernal moth]

I hate the negative connotation of the term hacking, am proud to be a hacker, but I never cheat

[high mirage]

Don't cheat when it could affect other's game

Game hacking is a great way to learn more about information security and the like, I'd highly recommend messing around in environments that don't affect others

[left swift]

mini is our favorite fedora wearing white hat hacker

[vernal moth]

People just have wrong definitions of the term hacker

Like, even Wikipedia has a proper one nowadays

"A hacker is a person skilled in information technology who uses their technical knowledge to achieve a goal or overcome an obstacle, within a computerized system by non-standard means."

[left swift]

people call themselves hackers when they use someone else's cheat clients

so theres no trying to fix it mini

[vernal moth]

Yeah, they are just sad cheaters

[left swift]

like kenny for example

is a skiddie

[quasi valley]

"non-standard means"
starts writing code in Clojure

I'm a hackerman

[left swift]

skript kiddie

[high mirage]

hack all the things

[vernal moth]

You aren't a hacker if you never debugged 40 layers deep spring code to find which annotation you forgot to set

[high mirage]

alternatively, fix the map api

[left swift]

kenny when are you releasing the papermc rewrite in skript

[quasi valley]

it'll be released on Hangar

[left swift]

thanks

[high mirage]

is skript Turing complete?

[quasi valley]

my fridge is turing complete

[warm anchor]

Wow did you install spark to test its performance ??

[void void]

I always use the term cheat client

hacking sounds like you're giving someone too much credit for downloading and running a jar file from the internet only to cheat in a videogame

[warm anchor]

Cheat client is proper term in my book

Otherwise modified client for normal QOL modification

[wraith trail]

"utility client"

[warm anchor]

Oh yeah that’s good name.

[magic river]

Cheat client is probably more proper but hack client is what the people who use them call it

[ashen nacelle]

obviously my coding skills leave something to be desired

[ruby elbow]

sigma male utility mod

[warm anchor]

I am going to refer it as utility client now

together, we can make it a movement

[ruby elbow]

already plenty of people who call it that

but since its unfair a cheat client makes more sense imo

utility mods are like tweakeroo and minihud

[left swift]

they are all cheats

[ruby elbow]

when does a "utility" become a cheat then

[left swift]

when you gain an unfair advantage over someone who doesnt have it

[ruby elbow]

because id call shape rendering and illegal placements more of a utility

[ruby elbow]

yeah but not a direct advantage

maybe in like build competition

[left swift]

its only cheating if I THINK IT IS!

[ruby elbow]

but do you really gain an advantage over someone

or does it just ease your life

[left swift]

I'm not stealing minecraft everyone plays offline!

[warm anchor]

Stuff like minimap, hudenchacement, and inventory enhancement I dont consider it as cheat but many people do

[ruby elbow]

i mean in a competition i would

[warm anchor]

game is litearlly unplayable if I cannot use IPN to sort items for me

[ruby elbow]

but in a survival world or even smp its just utilities

[left swift]

get ur butlers to sort your inventory for you eternity

[warm anchor]

yup SMP

[warm anchor]

they have more important things to do

[left swift]

@waxen panther eternity's butler

[ruby elbow]

lmao

[waxen panther]

I have more important things to do

[left swift]

like what play destiny

[waxen panther]

quitting destiny

hate bungie

[left swift]

I'll pray for you

[coarse lily]

Did they change something?

[warm anchor]

He no longer winning his games

[waxen panther]

they’re ruining the game for good players next season

[warm anchor]

it's all bungie's fault

[coarse lily]

How?

[left swift]

you sound like a jet main

[waxen panther]

Movement is really important in destiny and their next patch will punish you for having good movement

[coarse lily]

What does "good movement" mean?

Cheating?

[left swift]

not walking around like you use a broken controller

[waxen panther]

no, jumping and sliding in destiny is very important

[coarse lily]

So you can't jump or slide now?

[waxen panther]

you have really bad accuracy if you shoot while jumping now :((

[left swift]

LOL

[coarse lily]

I guess that makes some sense, though

[waxen panther]

that amongst a bunch of other changes

[coarse lily]

I mean you're less likely to have good accuracy jumping in general

[waxen panther]

There was already less accuracy but now it’ll basically be impossible

It’s a game about space magic

[left swift]

good

[twin lagoon]

Tell us more about Destiny

[waxen panther]

They’ve only done it because shitty console players can’t jump and shoot

[left swift]

let it all out

dont bottle it in eternity's butler

[coarse lily]

Are you using macros or aimbots or something to jump and shoot?

[waxen panther]

no I can just press more than one button at a time

I’m a bit of a thinker

[coarse lily]

@twin lagoon brocc cheats at Destiny

[twin lagoon]

T R U E

[waxen panther]

might start cheating now tbh

[left swift]

brocc uses inventory management mod in destiny

[waxen panther]

go out with a bang

[left swift]

you filthy cheater

[coarse lily]

I used to cheat at Destiny when you could cheese the second raid.

[waxen panther]

do a little Ethernet cord wiggling

[coarse lily]

Back before brocc was born.

[left swift]

ocelotpotpie does seem like a destiny 2 cheater

[waxen panther]

I played d1 beta mf

[coarse lily]

That was Destiny 1

[coarse lily]

Buying it for $2 at the store doesn't count!

[left swift]

destiny 1 doesnt exist

[waxen panther]

😡

gunna start playing d1 tbh

better game now

[left swift]

might aswell play siege

u masochist

[waxen panther]

siege probably has better movement now

than destiny

😀

[left swift]

[coarse lily]

Can you even still play Destiny 1?

Gotta dust off the ol' 360

Xbox: top 10 worst naming schemes of all time.

I can't wait for the new XBox X One X Series X 360 X One

[left swift]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-on-the-floor-laughing-emoji-gif-9682311

[pastel pivot]

Thank you all for the extensive discussion about the term cheating/hacking as a response to my question above. Sorry I had to go afk but I read everything.

[coarse lily]

Yeah everyone loves to say "hacked" but that feels like a misnomer to me.

But Minecraft people also say "My server IP is minecraftserver.com" which isn't an IP

So there's a whole lot of WTF going on there.

[pastel pivot]

Yeah that's so true, lol.

[placid thicket]

weird question i wasn't sure how to google, anyone have a way to get total combined playtime over a week? either by plugin or other black magic? just spent an hour calculating it from log timestamps

[golden gust]

only thing that's hacked here is stonar

[coarse lily]

Haha

[potent wedge]

there should be a couple of plugins with it

papermc.com/api/v2/projects/paper/versions/1.18.2/builds/299/downloads/paper-1.18.2-299.jar I mean why is it so long???? cant it just be /paper/downloads/1.18.2/229/paper.jar or something isntead of all that

[golden gust]

well, how do you get a list of projects?

calling /.../projects, and then havin to go /.../paper, is just weird

the idea is that it nests logically

and, the API needs to serve multiple files

so, using sane file names just makes a lot of sense

(That's a perfectly standard design pattern for such APIs)

[potent wedge]

well the 1.18.2/229/paper.jar could be folders

[golden gust]

they're not folders?

it's a rest API

[potent wedge]

"could be"

[golden gust]

following standard rest design

[potent wedge]

oh okay

[golden gust]

https://papermc.io/api/v2/projects/waterfall/versions/1.18/builds/483

you'll also see that there are multiple downloads there

[potent wedge]

thats why I put /paper at the beggining

[golden gust]

http://papermc.io/api/v2/projects/paper/versions/1.18.2/builds/299

and there

[potent wedge]

okay but what about the /versions/ when you can just have the version

I really dont get why everything is so over-engineered

[golden gust]

Because this is one again a standard rest pattern

There was little justification to go against design standards to save a few characters nobody cares about

[potent wedge]

I care though

a few extra characters can mean alot if your doing many at once

and trying to save miliseconds

[golden gust]

then write a script to deal with it?

[potent wedge]

the script is the thing needing to save miliseconds

[golden gust]

it literally wouldn't take more than 2 minutes to toss together a bash function/script for that

wut

[potent wedge]

im also confused

[golden gust]

why would a script care?

[potent wedge]

the script wouldnt care the person using the script would care

[golden gust]

dlpaper 1.18.2 299

[potent wedge]

for example if you had to do like 100 pings in a second I wouldnt be sending extra information per ping when its not needed

[native wolf]

huh?

[potent wedge]

and it would also be harder to remember than just <project>/<version>/<builds>

[golden gust]

it would be a lot harder if we tossed out the standard design practices for APIs over a few bytes which 1 person out of the thousands who touch our API care about

[placid thicket]

ok but like what situation ever are you going to need to get more than like 3-5 versions in a script, i see no reason to go against common convention to save what? ten bytes of data?

[golden gust]

literally go to the website, right click, copy link; or, adopt one of the many dozen scripts out there which already deal with this

[placid thicket]

and regardless. do you have ANY idea how bad of a plan it is to change an established format like this for no reason? do you WANT to break everything because that's how you break everything

[potent wedge]

thats what the api version part of the thing is for

[golden gust]

yea...

we're not gonna make a v3 which ditches standard API design practices all because of 1 person

[placid thicket]

and as anyone who has worked with minecraft in general would tell you... breaking API changes bad...

[potent wedge]

also this is what youtubes api ishttps://www.googleapis.com/youtube/v3/videos?id=7lCDEYXw3mM&key=YOUR_API_KEY &part=snippet,contentDetails,statistics,status you can see it skipped /api/ and just did v3 it skipped /projects/ and just did youtube

[golden gust]

Cool, they're using a different API design standard

[native wolf]

dude, just chill, it's one extra word, who cares

[placid thicket]

congrats, you have saved 4 bytes these are uselessly small numbers, even at megascale

[potent wedge]

4 bytes is a lot when your trying to save as much as possible

[golden gust]

You are literally the only person who gives a crap

it's literally nothing

[placid thicket]

thats four MB across 4 million downloads my gui

[native wolf]

what the hell are you saving in a script that downloads a jar

[golden gust]

we designed this entire thing following standard design practices and are not going to regress the design pattern just because of 1 individual

[potent wedge]

the same standard design practices Icant find anywhere

[golden gust]

It's literally REST.

key elements go in the URL, optional params go as request params

literally what you showed in that URL, you have the youtube v3 api and are looking at videos

you're requestiong a specific video using a param for the id and the key, and asking for specific info

[potent wedge]

if you look at the reddit api /api/v1/me /api/v1/me/blocked /api/v1/me/friends /api/v1/me/karma /api/v1/me/prefs /api/v1/me/trophies they didnt go /api/version/v1/user/me/request/blocked

[foggy veldt]

http://papermc.io/2/1.18.2/299 high performance optimized low space rest api query

[placid thicket]

in 2021 there were 238 million copies of minecraft sold worldwide, if every one of those downloaded paper once you would be saving 238mb of data. its literally not worth it for a little more readability

[potent wedge]

thankyou oh my god

[golden gust]

fucking

baited

[foggy veldt]

I was being sarcastic I’m not agreeing with you

[potent wedge]

theres also the roblox api

[golden gust]

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/architecture/best-practices/api-design

[native wolf]

yup, exactly

I still don't see the point of this convo at all

[golden gust]

We don't care how you wanna envision random softwares designs into tryna contend it to your own argument when you clearly have little to stand on here

your reddit example