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[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Ubuntu stuck in the view mode. How do I close it? : Ubuntu - 49 comments, 168 points - BeeDoubleYouKay, 10mo ago

[golden gust]

😡

Seriously, fuck ubuntu

[jagged garden]

atleast its free

unlike windoes

windows*

[golden gust]

ubuntu is backed by a good chunk of cash

and yet are practically one of the biggest stains on the linux ecosystem, for all the good that they do

[worn ember]

oh it is

i just didnt want to mention it

[ashen cliff]

How much ram are you bleeding?

[jagged garden]

50 million gbs

[worn ember]

[ashen cliff]

Weak.

[jagged garden]

nice pfp

[worn ember]

well they're just idle

[jagged garden]

receding hairline

[worn ember]

offline mode

[ashen cliff]

Thank you.

[jagged garden]

your welcome.

[ashen cliff]

Did they already give you the snip snip?

[jagged garden]

no wbu

[worn ember]

its still better than influxdb that thing choked my vps many times to the point my CI failed to build plugins cuz it ran out of ram

granted it only has 2gb or RAM but still

[jagged garden]

XD

[mint meadow]

is there an irc server for papermc?

[potent wedge]

Windows is free now

[vernal moth]

We on esper iirc

#paper

[mossy vessel]

Imagine using IRC in 2022

[mint meadow]

Thanks

[worn ember]

well time to clean up my pc

[worn crest]

What happened

[indigo spear]

Any place to find people who can make me a small datapack?

[worn ember]

it got dirty

so i blew some air on it

now its gud

[viral hornet]

[worn crest]

Dirty is not good :(

[worn ember]

true

[dim kelp]

I just upgraded my minecraft server version into 1.18.2 now lot of plugins is error cause not support version the thing is how I can rollback without world error?

(ping me)

[mossy vessel]

The better approach is to update plugins as well and reach out to their maintainers to update them.

[dim kelp]

Ouch yes but the thing is the plugin itself is outdated or not support of latest jar

[worn ember]

https://dev.bukkit.org/projects/holographic-displays/files

[mossy vessel]

Former applies then

[worn ember]

snapshots work on 1.18.2

[mossy vessel]

Though I can see a build claiming to work on 1.18.2, which is not the build you used

[vernal moth]

man, I love working with contractors.
ever see somebody write code in frontend to get a cookie value and then POST the cookie value to a backend that then works with that cookie? Like they had to write actual cookie parsing code and everything for something a browser would have done automatically anyways....

[worn ember]

tbh i never work with cookies so no clue

[crisp sinew]

irc ?

[vernal moth]

the browser sends the cookies to the backend

[wide chasm]

Internet Relay Chat

[vernal moth]

reading in frontend and posting to backend is thus extremally dum and redundant, especially if you have a fucking bug in said code

[golden gust]

brrrrrrr

[mossy vessel]

IRC

[limber knot]

just backend devs being forced to do frontend things, mini 👀

[vernal moth]

idk man

they were hired to literally implement this app, and they could look at similar apps for different products that their coworkers made

they also literally just copy pasted an existing app, but made a few dum changes like that

[limber knot]

[vernal moth]

I love near shoring

[crisp sinew]

ok

[vernal moth]

next turkey vacation ill visit those idiots

[crisp sinew]

wow

[vernal moth]

TIL they dont call is near shoring, adesso likes to call it SmartShoring

[magic river]

Wow Musk is actually trying to do it

He is trying to get himself banned from Twitter 😄

[silver nexus]

That’ll be a good show…

[magic river]

He is trying to do a hostile takeover, if it works I bet it won't be long before the SEC will be locking down the shit he is allowed to tweet

[teal raptor]

btw whats the plugin that makes you die when disconnecting during a fight

[magic river]

Oh he is trying to take it private so I guess he could tell the SEC to go fuck themselves

[vernal moth]

thats his plan, ye

I mean, he could still not tweet about tesla on twitter

[novel horizon]

I have a plugin that's open source and I need to change some small thing in it, so how would I do it, do I need just Eclipse with few things imported or something more? Any tutorial for that so I can read about it a bit? Not sure if it's for here or #paper-dev , but it's not that "dev" kinda question, maybe a little bit.. ^^

[uneven fox]

Is Java 8 known to leak memory or something? I'm trying to run MC 1.12.2, and it runs fine for about 15 minutes, then the memory usage starts climbing and climbing until the java process is using 3 GB of RAM, then it freezes and crashes.

I'm using -Xmx2048M, but apparently it ends up using way more than that.

[unkempt drift]

16% premium over current price doesn’t feel like enough, but ofc I say that with my decades of hostile takeover experience 😛

[magic river]

He also doesn't have any partners so is apparently going to come up with all of this money on his own?

It's like 1/4 of his net worth

[uneven fox]

huh, seems this may be an issue with multimc.

[unkempt drift]

Yeah I saw 43 billion as the number, he does not have that now, and would have to sell more Tesla stock.

[magic river]

Selling that much Tesla stock would crash the price (and he would have to schedule doing so well in advance)

[unkempt drift]

Yeah. Unless he buys the company with stock

So the shareholders get Tesla stock in exchange

[magic river]

He isn't allowed to just go sell it, he has to put out a statement saying he is going to sell X amount in 3 months so long as the price is between Y and Z

[unkempt drift]

But I didn’t see any mention of that in the filing, idk if you’d put that in there

[magic river]

Twitter takeover is an all cash offer

[unkempt drift]

Oh ok, so not that then. Yeah idk.

[magic river]

The expectation is he'll either try to find partners or take out loans against his Tesla stock

[unkempt drift]

That’d be a huge loan

Ik billionaires do it all the time, but not for tens of billions right?

[magic river]

Just means if the loans fail those people own Tesla now 😛

[unkempt drift]

I think they’ll say no, and then Elon will sell, and that’ll be it

End of Twitter/Elon story

[vernal moth]

thats not fair, cause elon already inflated the twitter price

its like a 50% premium over before elon got involved iirc

[unkempt drift]

I thought that was just making it look like he’s paying more talk.

[vernal moth]

but yes I can also see this inflating the price more and elon pulling out and selling for a nice profit

[unkempt drift]

But I guess it does matter, I imagine “spin” doesn’t really apply here since smart folks on either team made and read that stuff

It went up on his announcement, but I think it’s already gone down half of what it gained. Which wasn’t much in the first place, nothing like the bump when he announced the 9%

[tropic flame]

it shouldn't, but are you using any mods?

usually people still use 1.12.2 nowadays because it's a good version for modding

[tropic flame]

oh ok then

[uneven fox]

just vanilla, no mods

[ashen nacelle]

I am importing data into a database from a CSV file i have the uploader done but i get this error
(pdo-mysql): “LOAD DATA INFILE '”. sc_csv_20220413151512_590_grid_Contestants(3).csv ."’ INTO TABLE testing ..."' 1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MariaDB server version for the right syntax to use near '“LOAD DATA INFILE '”. sc_csv_20220413151512_590_grid_Contestants(3).csv ...' at line 1

heres my code:

sc_exec_sql(“LOAD DATA INFILE '”. {csv} ."’ INTO TABLE testing ..."');

sc_exec_sql is a macro for conencting to the sql database and executing the sql command in ()

[golden gust]

generally in mysql you use a backtick, also, rando .'s

oh, apparently it is a '

but, still, rando .

[ashen nacelle]

remove the . before and after {csv}?

[golden gust]

INFILE '”. sc_csv_20220413151512_590_grid_Contestants

I mean

idk, but, that just doesn't look right

[ashen nacelle]

{csv} points to the file name as its pointing to the uploaded file

[golden gust]

I'm talking about what mysql is saying that you apparently ran

which doesn't look all that right in terms of what I'd expect

[ashen nacelle]

1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MariaDB server version for the right syntax to use near '“LOAD DATA INFILE '”sc_csv_20220413151512_590_grid_Contestants.csv "’ I...' at line 1
      ADOConnection._Execute(“LOAD DATA INFILE '”sc_csv_20220413151512_590_grid_Contestants.csv "’ INTO TABLE testing ..."', false) % line 1149, file: adodb.inc.php
   ADOConnection.Execute(“LOAD DATA INFILE '”sc_csv_20220413151512_590_grid_Contestants.csv "’ INTO TABLE testing ..."') % line 1743, file: Import_apl.php
Import_apl.Valida_campos(null, null, null) % line 1128, file: Import_apl.php
Import_apl.controle() % line 2214, file: index.php

[golden gust]

idk wtf your macro is doing

but, like

the thing is litelly telling you that the syntax is borked

I'M literally telling you that the syntax looks weird

[ashen nacelle]

unexpected 'DATA' (T_STRING), expecting ',' or ')'

is it expecting this? 'DATA'

[magic river]

Are you sure LOAD DATA INFILE is valid MySQL syntax?

Supposedly, yeah, based on Google

News to me

Your tools apparently thing it's invalid too though, it's complaining about that part

You probably want LOAD DATA LOCAL INFILE though unless that file exists in the DB server filesystem

LOAD DATA LOCAL INFILE '/tmp/foo.csv' INTO TABLE foo FIELDS TERMINATED BY ',';

Or something like that

[uneven fox]

I see a smart quote character in there. maybe that's causing issues.

[magic river]

I'd probably just parse the CSV myself and manually generate multiple insert statements in a transaction

Whenever I use too many SQL features I feel like I'm drifting in to COBOL land

[ashen nacelle]

took it out. fixed now i just have ... near end so thats progress:
sc_exec_sql(LOAD DATA INFILE '{csv}' INTO TABLE testing ...);

1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MariaDB server version for the right syntax to use near '...' at line 1

i guess replace ... with the column names?

[magic river]

So long as the columns in the CSV line up with the table you don't need it

[uneven fox]

I don't think you need anything after that.

[magic river]

Also the default separator is apparently tab so if you have a CSV you need to set that

Like the example I gave

[uneven fox]

Just LOAD DATA LOCAL INFILE 'file.csv' INTO TABLE foo

[ashen nacelle]

well i took out the ...

but now im getting this
1045: Access denied for user 'adamwebb'@'%' (using password: YES)
which is weird since the applicaiton has full permissions to access the database

[magic river]

file permission is an extra thing

DB server level permission, not database

Also it's going to try to read from /var/lib/mysql/{dbname}/{csv} if you don't give it a full path and/or use LOAD DATA LOCAL

If you don't have the FIELDS TERMINATED BY ',' part it'll either only fill in the first column and put NULL for the rest or just error out if those columns aren't nullable and don't have defaults

If your CSV doesn't have data for every column you do LOAD DATA LOCAL INFILE 'foo' INTO TABLE 'foo' FIELDS TERMINATED BY ',' (id, name, wins) to specify the columns you do have in the order they appear

[ashen nacelle]

i switch INFILE to LOCAL and i get syntax erro on the filename.

[magic river]

You don't replace INFILE, you have both

If you want to manipulate some of that data while inserting it you replace (id, name, wins) with (id, name, @wins) SET wins = @wins * 2

Ok, I think that's a whole tutorial on how to use it 😛

[ashen nacelle]

1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MariaDB server version for the right syntax to use near ''testing' FIELDS TERMINATED BY '' at line 1```

[magic river]

You appear to be missing some of your SQL statement there

[ashen nacelle]

LOAD DATA LOCAL INFILE '{csv}' INTO TABLE 'testing' FIELDS TERMINATED BY ','

[magic river]

You probably don't need/want to quote the table name, that was my bad

And it appears your PHP quotes and SQL quotes are conflicting on the ',' part?

It's getting cut off

[ashen nacelle]

in htis case the , is replaced with ; because of the csv file containing ; however i wonder if theres a way for it to accept either or since csv files ive seen it varies

the csv file layout
School Name;"Team Name";"Bot Name";"Pit"

[magic river]

Oh, ; means end of statement

You need to do '\;', probably

Possibly with two \ so PHP will send one to SQL instead of just trying to do an escape of its own

[ashen nacelle]

so FIELDS TERMINATED BY '\;'

[magic river]

Yeah

Or '\\;'

[ashen nacelle]

welp got a different error now

(pdo-mysql): LOAD DATA LOCAL INFILE 'sc_csv_20220413151512_590_grid_Contestants.csv' INTO TABLE testing FIELDS TERMINATED BY '\;'  
2000: LOAD DATA LOCAL INFILE is forbidden, check mysqli.allow_local_infile```

[magic river]

Yeah, I was expecting that one 😄

This is something kind of insecure and that breaks replication and such so it's not just a permission, you also need to turn the feature on

[ashen nacelle]

is there an alternative to this then?

As I dont have permission to turn that feature on

[magic river]

Parse CSV file yourself, generate INSERTs

[uneven fox]

what about a non-local infile?

[ashen nacelle]

yeah problem with parsing byself is it cna only accept one format and the absolue amount of rows. I need this to be able to accept pretty much any number of entries fomr 10 entries to 300 entries

[limber knot]

I'm not normally a sticker fan but if I ever add some to my laptop then those are pretty nice: https://github.com/mkrl/misbrands xD

[ashen nacelle]

I take out LOCAL to make it nonlocal and i get the following error
1045: Access denied for user 'adamwebb'@'%' (using password: YES)

[uneven fox]

IDK how permissions work with that. You'll have to read the documentation.

[golden gust]

brrrrr

(I just had to rebuild a bunch of VMs and redo their raids, and so, running a scrub op because apparently that's advised, and, apparently, erm, not so great idea)

[vernal moth]

how have I never seen this before

https://samdbeckham.gitlab.io/javascript_sticker/sticker.8971a644.svg

https://twitter.com/samdbeckham/status/1129722966118457344

Sam Beckham  (@samdbeckham)

This sticker goes out to all the tech recruiters who still don’t get it.

Likes

3676

Retweets

749

Twitter · May 18, 2019, 12:18 PM

[ashen nacelle]

that sounds scammy

[brave mountain]

Linux gaming!!!

[limber knot]

congrats

not sure why I just wasted half an hour on this: https://is.paper.sexy/gy67iOoF.png

[mossy vessel]

Is this the new nft?

[warm anchor]

Orange slime is calling, pheonix. Pick up the phone

[tropic flame]

blursrd

*blursed

[ashen nacelle]

worst Error you can get.

[wet storm]

SIGSEGV on JVM while running your smp server is worse 💀 /s

[wet storm]

Noice

[ashen nacelle]

or worse when you are monitoring your server output in a screen session and you press ^C to attempt to copy some text and you just killed your SMP server

in which i have accidently done with a server that had about 100 players on it

[limber knot]

that's why I have a separate screen that only tails logs

[ashen nacelle]

i Use MineOS

so when the JVM starts it literally has the entire minecraft server in a screen session

my biggest OOF moment was spawning a TNT ball with worldedit that was 300 block diameter and setting it off

had to replace the CPU in the server after that.

[limber knot]

wat

[ashen nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/critical-role-crit-role-cr-arsequeef-reaction-gif-14455785

[magic river]

That's not a thing

[novel horizon]

tnt ball 300 block diameter? what

i mean you can do that if you limit the server to tick the tnts to few a tick lol

[limber knot]

unless that cpu was really old it should thermal throttle by itself lol

[magic river]

Unless this was a machine at your house, wasn't built correctly, and all the thermal safety features failed so the CPU burned out

[novel horizon]

Yeah

[ashen nacelle]

the thermal feature failed and it burned out

[novel horizon]

O_o

[limber knot]

❌ Doubt

[novel horizon]

[spare venture]

not enough thermal paste

[magic river]

The CPU will automatically downclock to base clocks if you mess up the thermal paste or heatsink

Base clocks it'll still overheat if you really messed it up but that's why at 100C or so it'll just hard power off

TIL Steam has "account alerts"

They sent me one for the Steam Deck, along with the email

That's a lot of Steam Points

[ashen nacelle]

so far since switching to ZGC i havent had any issues with the server leaking memory anymore. last reboot of the server was the adding of the chaos dragon into the game.

> gc
[13:46:54 INFO]: CONSOLE issued server command: /gc
[13:46:54 INFO]: Uptime: 19 hours 47 minutes 5 seconds
[13:46:54 INFO]: Current TPS = 20.01
[13:46:54 INFO]: Maximum memory: 30,720 MB.
[13:46:54 INFO]: Allocated memory: 8,218 MB.
[13:46:54 INFO]: Free memory: 2,384 MB.
[13:46:54 INFO]: World "world": 1,581 chunks, 1,471 entities, 976 tiles.
[13:46:54 INFO]: Nether "world_nether": 629 chunks, 173 entities, 297 tiles.
[13:46:54 INFO]: The End "world_the_end": 529 chunks, 0 entities, 23 tiles.
[13:46:54 INFO]: World "world_chaos_dragon_chaos_dragon_arena": 576 chunks, 128 entities, 21 tiles.
[13:46:54 INFO]: World "Space": 567 chunks, 8 entities, 0 tiles.
[13:46:54 INFO]: World "Adventure": 529 chunks, 7 entities, 28 tiles.
[13:46:54 INFO]: World "Creative": 529 chunks, 1 entities, 14 tiles.
[13:46:54 INFO]: Nether "prison": 529 chunks, 105 entities, 194 tiles.
[13:46:54 INFO]: World "Spawn": 529 chunks, 170 entities, 28 tiles.
[13:46:54 INFO]: World "TARDIS_Zero_Room": 529 chunks, 1 entities, 0 tiles.
[13:46:54 INFO]: World "TARDIS_TimeVortex": 554 chunks, 1 entities, 14 tiles.
[13:46:54 INFO]: World "world_herobrine_graveyard": 529 chunks, 0 entities, 24 tiles.
>

[void void]

@golden gust ¿Are You OWNER?

[stuck lynx]

Does someone have a high res papermc logo?

[left swift]

no sorry fresh out

I only have low res papermc logos for sale

[vestal jasper]

@void void are you OK?

It says in his name not to ping him

[brave mountain]

hoy

[void void]

No

[vestal jasper]

Ok just checking

[brave mountain]

does WSL2 behave same as Hyper-V?, running windows on top of hypervisor?

not a valid username character?

[worn crest]

Using online mode solve that

[warm anchor]

Have you try online mode true?

[tropic flame]

if the proxy is in online mode then that name should not go through either

[stuck lynx]

Sorry low effort

[warm anchor]

How are you getting a player with name with those symbols then

[left swift]

b i g l a g g

[warm anchor]

Go to your corner now

[rare python]

[warm anchor]

[tropic flame]

uh... and why do you need to look up for that name?

[worn crest]

You use 1.17...

[gritty lodge]

and.....

[worn crest]

Not supported

[tropic flame]

no player will have ) nor # in their name as it is an invalid account name in minecraft.net

so maybe don't expect the API to behave properly with it either

[warm anchor]

Sounds like a plugin issue to me

My vanilla server has no /bal

(?)

[tropic flame]

sure, but you can check if it's a valid name format

[warm anchor]

Yes

This is literally the most important part to not accept junk data

[vernal moth]

You don't pipe untrusted input into stuff

That's like web 101

[warm anchor]

Yup

You should rethink your plugin choice

[tropic flame]

what they mean is you check if the input is valid before feeding it to the API

[warm anchor]

Because that’s clearly not true

You caught those early on in the pipeline not later

[vernal moth]

Basically, if you don't want a lookup, don't do a lookup, paper has an API to only lookup cache

[left swift]

pipe ur untrusted input into the trash

[vernal moth]

Nomana pipes his money into poki chat

[warm anchor]

TRUE

[left swift]

u only got 8 more months mini

[tropic flame]

public static final boolean isValidMinecraftName(String name) {
    return name.matches("[a-zA-Z0-9_]{3,16}$");
}

here is free code for you @gritty lodge call this method on the player name before feeding into the API

might want to compile the pattern maybe

thank me later

[vernal moth]

I was first gonna say pipes his unvetted thoughts into general but idk what I liked better

Tbh I still don't understand the issue that guy has

[warm anchor]

[tropic flame]

his plugin has a /balance command, players can run /balance with invalid names which causes the API to lag the server (?), like /balance #)

[vernal moth]

Like, if you don't want lookups, set the boolean to false. If you want lookups but players are spamming, add a cooldown

It's so simple

[tropic flame]

that's basically what I understood from his problem

[warm anchor]

Yes you understand it correctly

[vernal moth]

The content doesn't matter as any lookup that isn't in cache is expensive

[warm anchor]

Him on other hand does not understand his own problem

[vernal moth]

Option 3 could be do the lookup off main

But I feel like that's a meh option cause people will starve your thread pool if you don't prevent spamming

[tropic flame]

well then my method solves his problem, provided his server is actually in online mode and thus disallows players named #)

i originally wrote this method to prevent players with invalid names from connecting in offline mode but that's another story

[vernal moth]

Smh

Literal pirate 🏴‍☠️

[warm anchor]

I will smh really hard if this guys plugin doesn’t even have cooldown in place

That to me is also the most basic lol

[vernal moth]

Does essentials bal command have one?

runs

[warm anchor]

@ JRoy

[ashen nacelle]

since i cant use INFILE LOCAL method for the CSV i tried parsing it to an array and inserting it into the MYSQL datavbase but I am getting this (pdo-mysql): INSERT INTO testing(School_Name,Team_Name,Bot_Name,Pit) VALUES('','','') 1136: Column count doesn't match value count at row 1
heres my code:

$csv_file = "{csv}";
$csvfile = fopen($csv_file, 'r');
$theData = fgets($csvfile);
$i = 0;
while (!feof($csvfile))
{
   $csv_data[] = fgets($csvfile, 100);
   $csv_array = explode(";", $csv_data[$i]);
   $insert_csv = array();
   $insert_csv['School_name'] = $csv_array[0];
   $insert_csv['Team_Name'] = $csv_array[1];
   $insert_csv['Bot_Name'] = $csv_array[2];
   $insert_csv['Pit'] = $csv_array[3];
   $query = "INSERT INTO testing(School_Name,Team_Name,Bot_Name,Pit)
     VALUES('','".$insert_csv['Team_Name']."','".$insert_csv['Pit']."')";
   sc_exec_sql($query);
   $i++;
}
fclose($csvfile);
echo "File data successfully imported to database!!";

[left swift]

I feel like every message you've posted here has been some long ass code block and asking for help the past week

[vernal moth]

Have you tried to not write database import scripts in php?

You are also missing a param in your values if I can decipher that shit correctly

You don't pass a bot name

To be honest I don't understand your code at all

Why do you create that Insert CSV array?

But only use half the values?

Also please bind params, always

Etc

It's just a mess generally

I can't believe I am debugging PHP Code

For free

I must be insane

[left swift]

this why people at your work always come to you with problems

[neon bramble]

Hey, how do you store enums in MySQL DB? (Native MySQL enum is not an option)

I can only come to 2 ideas: ordinal and name

but name seems very wasteful

but ordinal also doesn't seem ideal

[ashen cliff]

JSON. 🛌

[neon bramble]

[prime coral]

[ashen cliff]

Well. Since you don't want to use native enums... JSON is the only other "standard" without too much baggage.

[neon bramble]

I think that storing the name still would be better than JSON

I didn't mean enum structure, but it's value

[ashen cliff]

Alright then. Then just the value should be fine... but do you really need enums at that point?

[neon bramble]

huh?

Read my messages again lol

[ashen cliff]

I just see the problem differently then you I assume.

[neon bramble]

look I have enum named FoodCategory with values: "DRINK", "FOOD", "POWDER"
In a table named food, I have a column named category, which should contain any of the following ^

Currently the only options I have is storing it as the value's name, or it's position represented by int (ordinal)

[ashen cliff]

Understandable. Int.

[neon bramble]

But yeah, that will fuck up when I remove/reorder anything in the enum

An option would be to manually assign an id to each value, but that seems boilerplaty

[ashen cliff]

You shouldn't really change the value/id they represent tho.

[neon bramble]

yeah

[untold meadow]

name is not wasteful unless you're on a db from a billion years ago

and if you cared about performance you'd be using enums so

[neon bramble]

now I have 2 different opinions

[untold meadow]

it's not gonna matter at all

[neon bramble]

well, default JPA behavior is using ordinal, so there might be something to it

[untold meadow]

just use the name as it's more sane

[ashen cliff]

Int is always going to be faster tho.

[neon bramble]

by how much tho?

[dawn pond]

guys

[ashen cliff]

Not a lot.

[dawn pond]

is the Intel Xeon E3 1240 V5

good for hosting 1.18

[ashen cliff]

Like, we are talking bytes.

[untold meadow]

faster by an amount that literally doesn't matter

[ashen cliff]

It does.

Maybe not to you, but it saves on a lot, in the long run.

Not just storage, but also compressing, sending,...

[untold meadow]

bytes no way 💀

you're probably not accessing it enough or storing enough data for it to matter

so use a sane value

[neon bramble]

I mean, the thing is, if you have billion of rows (ikr, not a real scenario), searching an int there will be way faster than searching the entire name right?

[untold meadow]

do you have billions of rows

[neon bramble]

ofc not

[untold meadow]

ok then

[ashen cliff]

Depends on the indexes.

Is it going to be slower? Yes.
How much? A bit or a lot.

[vernal moth]

Ur right
Stop it

[left swift]

[dawn pond]

is the Intel Xeon E3 1240 V6
good for hosting 1.18

[warm anchor]

My Samsung smart fridge can provably run 1.8 too

[dawn pond]

so is that a yes or no?

[lament patio]

Depends on the type of server and amount of players

[wet storm]

Mistyping 1.18 with 1.8 is the worst mistake ever😅

[twin lagoon]

no

[dawn pond]

oof

[untold meadow]

is Michael good for hosting 1.Michael

[left swift]

michael is pretty outdated software

[lavish compass]

@twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

[quasi valley]

no

[left swift]

stop being toxic kenny

[twin lagoon]

toxic

[quasi valley]

The only thing that can host 1.Michael is two Michaels

And some strong tape

[stuck lake]

Does anyone know a plugin that gives the enemy drops on death?

[mossy vessel]

Go to bed

[wet storm]

...and has many vulnerabilities

[left swift]

😳

[upbeat falcon]

Custom Drops - [1.13 - 1.16] - Easy to use, hard not to want! - Spigot

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/custom-drops-editor-1-13-1-16-easy-to-use-hard-not-to-want.71153/

Welcome to CustomDrops, a plugin that lets you add custom drops to mobs and blocks! It has many more features to let you customize the ...

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[spare venture]

@stuck lake

[left swift]

what are you doing barty

[dark nexus]

i cant talk in the paper channels

[limber knot]

wdym

[dark nexus]

it shows up red

[limber knot]

discord is down loluse irc

[dark nexus]

can i ask my question here?

[limber knot]

go to #paper-help ?

entiti lmao

sorry it made me laugh

[stuck lake]

That one isn't for players but i will try autopickup

[cloud moat]

At that point thinking about implementing a search engine like ElasticSearch, Solr or Lucene is actually a good idea. Dropped my Query Time from 5min to 300ms

That table has about 910 Million Rows tho, so it's completely overkill for most stuff

That ElasticSearch Instance takes about 60GB of RAM though

[ashen cliff]

That kind of explains it.

Just make a 60GB index to speed things up.

Still less than M$SQL.

[cloud moat]

Tried that, still had querytimes of up to 20s

Which just isn't acceptable for a website

[ashen cliff]

I was referring to ElasticSearch as the index. Just to be clear.

[cloud moat]

Ah i see

[ashen cliff]

But yeah, indexes in MySQL/MariaDB can only get you so far.

[cloud moat]

Yeah i was suprised the Postgres Index even did anything for that kind of data

Basically I ping all public minecraft servers that are listed in serverlists once an hour. Thats about 800.000 Servers. Of course thats gonna be a big Table.

[ashen cliff]

So you are behind that cursed Russian server index. Noted.

[cloud moat]

Wait what

Which russian server index

[ashen cliff]

I will refuse to elaborate, but there is a Russian website that tracks players on servers. Very epic, but cursed.

[cloud moat]

Dammit wanted to do some market research. :D

[spare venture]

shut up

[ashen cliff]

Same here, but I only do it for the Slovenian servers.

[cloud moat]

Would you be willing to elaborate in a private message

[ashen cliff]

Sadly not. Can't of want to avoid that whole website, since I did a bit too much digging to figure out why that even exists.

[cloud moat]

Fair enough

20GB RAM should be more than enough

[limber knot]

ask to #paper-help

[cloud moat]

Even 5GB should be more than enough

[limber knot]

oracle free tier is arm processor afaik

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor

[warm anchor]

[twin lagoon]

[limber knot]

also they suck at giving cpu and both memory and cpu is shared

afaik

again

[warm anchor]

Two different free tier

[twin lagoon]

arm processors are dope though

they're the future

[warm anchor]

One is the old eypc and the newer and very limited one is ARM

[limber knot]

stop polluting my irc with your futuristic emojis

[cloud moat]

Hetzner Cloud is pretty affordable and they have fairly good Customer Service

[warm anchor]

[twin lagoon]

just avoid virtual servers

[limber knot]

HETZNER

[spring forge]

iptables.sh W

[twin lagoon]

if you're looking to host a minecraft server only just use a shared host like bloomhost or dedicatedmc

[limber knot]

i can give referral link to hetzner

[twin lagoon]

banger

[spring forge]

best site domain

real

[cloud moat]

Then Hetzner is probably your best bet. OVH has technically better service and connection but is way more expensive

[limber knot]

hetzner ftwwww

used it a lot no problem so fa

[cloud moat]

Currently running 2 AX161 and a Storage Box myself

[limber knot]

that person who is running oracle free tier minecraft are you there?

how is your performance so far?

lol

[cloud moat]

Thats true

[limber knot]

which parameters do you use if you don't mind me asking

[cloud moat]

https://www.hetzner.com/cloud CPX31 is probably good enough for you

[limber knot]

single core performance but paper handles some tasks async so go for like 4-6 cores with highghz

i meant minecraft server parameters

do you use aikar's flags

that would be epic

[ashen cliff]

Yeah. Good luck with Oracle Free for that many players.
The CPU is just not meant for that.

[limber knot]

how many players did he say i missed it

[limber knot]

-?

wow this timings is really useful btw thanks for this

it's like a gold

[magic river]

8 players all at spawn was fine, 20 players not all at spawn not fine

8 players all at spawn is basically 1 player

[limber knot]

you making server for r/spain lol

we also making one for UGA

[ashen cliff]

But the s is silent.

[limber knot]

haha

relatable

r/sounding is pure pain

don't check it out

well we are keeping all gacha games together so

lol

well, good luck and thanks for all your help

[cloud moat]

r/placetux is still going strong

[limber knot]

r/unixporn

i wantmy rice

[cloud moat]

best subreddit

[limber knot]

hosting website is like at max 100mb

you need a domain tho

nice

[cloud moat]

Should be, but do some testing

Run it on your local machine and expose it and monitor the usage

Go with Debian if you really want it to be lightweight

[limber knot]

OpenBSD is also light asf

[cloud moat]

Doesn't Oracle show you how much RAM you are using

[limber knot]

or Alpine

[cloud moat]

Yeah but last time I checked, Java isn't fun on Alpine

[limber knot]

I use Alpine Linsux for my servers wdym

[cloud moat]

Do you have a tool like htop

[limber knot]

adoptium has temurin for it

add it to .profile and boom java

[cloud moat]

a taskmanager in your linux environment basically

[cloud moat]

Then someone ported java to alpine. To be fair last I checked was almost 6 months ago

[twin lagoon]

java works fine on alpine

[limber knot]

lol adoptium is native on alpine

comeon

[twin lagoon]

only since java 17 is it a native openjdk thing though

before that you could find it from various openjdk distributions

[limber knot]

idk about that

my server run i have no problemo

and i suggest

I USE ARTIX BTW

well still

alpine is ez

only difference is it uses openrc and not systemd

which is good

but services are different

i install zsh and java and it works like a charm

[cloud moat]

Yeah last time I checked was around the start of Java 16s Lifecycle

[limber knot]

now you need java 18

[twin lagoon]

alpine builds have definitely been available for the past few years through other distributions though

[limber knot]

ooooh no never

bruh you guys are cringe just install .tar.gz and .profile

its linux at last

not bsd

comeon

java is easy to run on any linux

except maybe hannah montana

i take it back

[cloud moat]

Y'all or so spoiled with the frequent releases. I still remember waiting 3 years for a new verison

[limber knot]

based

hey @void void we have a small dev server where we have a fabric server maker and a paper one and a quality check and moral support would you be interested?

[cloud moat]

I started somewhere around Java 6 i think

[limber knot]

windows user stuck at java 8

lol

lemme open up discord rq

[spiral robin]

[twin lagoon]

i don't understand what the fuck this conversation is

at all

[limber knot]

ooh ok

check dms

[cloud moat]

Yeah that sucks. All my minecraft stuff runs on 17 and all my external services run on 18

[cloud moat]

Its an art project

[twin lagoon]

this went from stereotype reddit linux user to randomly advertising your discord server

[cloud moat]

I see a human of culture

[cloud moat]

You wanna see some real speed bish

[spiral robin]

What the fuck

Avg paper general

[cloud moat]

based

[warm anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/goodgoshrendfit-dill-iceddill-linux-linux-users-gif-20961611

[cloud moat]

Stop filming me

[twin lagoon]

@untold meadow thoughts

[frank otter]

from my experience wouldn't they have a much more aggressive emotion given the thing they're doing doesn't tend to work brilliantly

or maybe they're just resigned to the inevitable fate of having to hard restart the machine

which is me when I forget to give make -j a number of cores

[cloud moat]

You're talking about windows right?

[frank otter]

it's so happy to just lock up my system

[cloud moat]

Stuff tends to work on Linux while it breaks on Windows

[frank otter]

I mean windows doesn't work at all for me

[cloud moat]

At least for me

[frank otter]

the only way things can break on my machine is on linux because Windows doesn't start in the first place

or if it does I don't have the patience for it to take half an hour to log in

[cloud moat]

https://tenor.com/view/john-jonah-jameson-lol-laughing-hysterically-laughing-out-loud-funny-gif-17710543

Sounds about right for windows

[frank otter]

hey not everyone has a newfangled ssd they can boot off

"it makes your machine faster"

do I need that tho?

[cloud moat]

Yes

[frank otter]

I'm not even sure my machine has a spare sata slot

[cloud moat]

Fair. Same. But I do be running 1x SSD 3x Spinning Rust

[frank otter]

I guess I could swap out my hard drive, but then I'd have to somehow copy everything over

and it's not very fast but it's fast enough for my low standards

I'm in no rush and I'm not doing really intensive stuff on this machine

[warm anchor]

That’s famous last word for drive failure

[frank otter]

sure if it didn't slow down quite as much when it hit swap it'd be nice but it's usable anyways

I forgot disk failures were a thing

how long does the average hard drive last?

[limber knot]

lol

[cloud moat]

On this note. RAID is not a Backup

[limber knot]

depends on use

[frank otter]

it's effectively half of my ram since I don't have enough

[limber knot]

i have drives last like 12 years with no damage on s.m.a.r.t

i can't believe it

[frank otter]

I should be good then ig

[limber knot]

i also have drives fail under 1 day

[frank otter]

plus I don't think I've got much valuable stuff on here to lose

[limber knot]

still do backup

[cloud moat]

Happened to me both on Contabo and OVH

[frank otter]

What's contabo?

[twin lagoon]

shit tier VPS host

[cloud moat]

https://contabo.com/en/

[warm anchor]

The best hosting for summer host

[twin lagoon]

it's like an all you can eat buffet

[limber knot]

*poop please keep #general christian friendly

[warm anchor]

IRC bridge is a mistake

[limber knot]

no u are a mistake

your parents agree with me on this

git gud

[frank otter]

eternity if irc bridge wasn't here where would we all flock to when discord down

[warm anchor]

Our new epic forums for sure

[peak ginkgo]

papermc telegram group

[limber knot]

gaaaay

[cloud moat]

https://tenor.com/view/exorcism-father-mulvehill-evil-z-is-for-zombies-get-out-evil-spirit-gif-22407195

[limber knot]

matrix or nothing

[frank otter]

isn't matrix the thing that bridges to literally anything

[limber knot]

irc + matrix + jabber

it also uses json because devs don't have protocol yet lmao

[cloud moat]

didn't know we were talking about your mom

[frank otter]

matrix is json over http?

[limber knot]

afaik yes

[frank otter]

is that unusual?

[limber knot]

still lanme

*lame

like come on

[warm anchor]

So since we are on json do you gues pronounce it as Jay-son or Jaaaa-son?

[limber knot]

"jisın"

i pronounce it like this

[cloud moat]

I pronounce it Javascript Object notation

[limber knot]

elitist nerd

[frank otter]

I don't know how I pronounce it because I don't have irl programmer friends

[warm anchor]

saying that on irc

[frank otter]

so I never speak it aloud now that I think of it

[limber knot]

stfu irc is safe and secure

it supports TLS

[frank otter]

jay-son ig?

[cloud moat]

https://tenor.com/view/mexican-laugh-laugh-laughing-laughing-hysterically-laughing-crying-gif-14871471

Coming from you

[true canyon]

LL Cool Json

[limber knot]

stfu lamer

[warm anchor]

[cloud moat]

At least I'm not a pretentious IRC mofo

[true canyon]

Please stop, rktfier. Not cool.

[warm anchor]

He’s on IRC he can’t tell who’s a mod

[limber knot]

make him stop

[true canyon]

And everyone else stop too.

[static badge]

https://imgur.com/ij95uWn

[true canyon]

With the weird IRC fighting

[warm anchor]

Leaf pls stream

[limber knot]

he started it first

saying irc is cringe

[true canyon]

They can tell I am since I'm in the channel.

I don't give a shit who started it first. Stop it.

[frank otter]

why does leaf just come out of nowhere, post that one specific gif and then dissappear

[limber knot]

ok

you moderator?

[twin lagoon]

@true canyon 🥺

[foggy silo]

We love leaf ❤️

[true canyon]

I'm also an espernet oper. So cut it out.

[cloud moat]

Pretty typical for leaf

[limber knot]

leaf water with sugar is my favorite drink

[warm anchor]

We love our little rat king

[foggy silo]

https://imgur.com/gallery/PnNccfu

[frank otter]

wait where did leaf's kitchen appliances go

[foggy silo]

Eaten/Consumed

[warm anchor]

He sold it

[frank otter]

... what happened to his mom

[foggy silo]

🤨

[warm anchor]

He so… nvm

[limber knot]

poggers

[brave mountain]

hunger strikes

[frank otter]

yep all his appliances are gone plus his mom

[limber knot]

where did she go

[warm anchor]

I can make it return

[frank otter]

there's only his rat and his rat army

[warm anchor]

But it has to be on special occasion

[limber knot]

sus :o

wtw gn @a

[red timber]

Exhibit A how modern birds are direct descendants of two legged dinosaurs

seagulls are the worst

reminds me a story of local fishermen putting long sticks inside fish so seagulls would stop stealing freshly caught fish and attacking people nearby lol

[brave mountain]

what do you recomend for a personal webpage/blog?

[potent wedge]

Ha, ofcourse I recommend over stacking

You need atleast 8 different things in 9 different languages

half wont even be in english

jk I recommend just html5 and nothing else

[true canyon]

Do you have familiarity with markdown or do you want something with a more proper editor for posts and pages? Or are you comfortable just writing html for yolo

[brave mountain]

yeha I know litle I'm also looking jekyllrb

AWS Amplify looks good and free 😬

[potent wedge]

Markdown doesn't really feel like a webpage thing it doesn't look that nice and fits good only with other things around it like usernames and reply buttons and all that

[twin lagoon]

markdown can be used to compile into a nice looking static website

[true canyon]

Think about how most content on a page is gently formatted text around a consistent layout. Look up how Jekyll works for example. Or mkdocs. :)

[wraith trail]

or papers own docs are all markdown as well

although, not commonmark

if you want something more "like a webpage thing," https://mdxjs.com

[potent wedge]

Wow

[short yarrow]

so let's say i have a workflow running. it's performing an API call (let's call this A) and slighly before A, an async process is happens (let's call this B). if B happens before A, an error won't occur, but the end state isn't the desired one. is this a normal problem in distributed systems? i would most likely need something to sync it up periodically because of this edge case

[golden gust]

yes

[magic river]

https://twitter.com/mathiasverraes/status/632260618599403520

[brave mountain]

looks prery hard, I'm try to learn

[golden gust]

Yea, I mean, markdown has its limitations, which is in part what mdx is solving, but, most content is practically 99% there ready for markdown, just needing a few tweaks

[potent wedge]

Electronic car watch out I found documentation on Minecraft socket protocol

Paper gonna be so obsolete by the time I'm done making this server software

[brave mountain]

https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/13/linux_column/

[brave mountain]

Send it right now

[golden gust]

I wish linux lusers would fuck off

If you elect to install Linux, you need to know a little bit about your computer

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK PEOPLE USE WINDOWS

[brave mountain]

Aren't you a Linux user?

[golden gust]

for servers, etc, yes

don't get me wrong, linux is nice for servers

I also use to mainline linux

I used to think it was easy

I got my family to try it on their laptops and such because it was lighter than windows and generally performed better on their older hardware

they ended up going back to windows because installing stuff like flash was a PITA

[brave mountain]

You always have to setup window for those who don't know about computers

[golden gust]

Not really

especially not these days

OEMs will generally even bundle shit like chrome on there

[brave mountain]

Well I'm still doing that

[golden gust]

or your average normie knows how to click the little E

[brave mountain]

Everything has a cost

[golden gust]

well, yea, if people can rely on somebody who knows what they're doing to setup their PC they will, but there are hundreds of thousands of people who get a new computer every day for checking their emails and shit who just turn it on and click the button they're used to

[brave mountain]

You can't get good things without effort

[golden gust]

which is literally the issue

your average computer user doesn't wanna put the time or effort into using their computer

When I was younger, don't get me wrong, spending the day reinstalling linux cos I fucked around with too many packages was fun, I had it nailed down to an art that I could do it within a few hours before ansible, etc, was even on the scene

[brave mountain]

I'm in favor of average people keep using window or mac (eww)

[magic river]

I used to reinstall Windows 95 from floppies like once a month 😄

[brave mountain]

But new generations can learn

[golden gust]

new generations are even dumber than the last and generally don't care

[brave mountain]

And then windows can be leave behind

[golden gust]

they just want an environment that they're used to which works

Linux is still far from that environment

in the words of somebody I used to follow, Linux sucks

[brave mountain]

Just the smartest ones 😅

[silver nexus]

As part of the "new generation", we are worse. There are kids at my school who legitimately think that hitting their computers is supposed to fix them...

[brave mountain]

I reached Linux a friend like 16 y

[silver nexus]

Not entirely their fault, been tempted to hit the school laptops too, but I know that that's not supposed to fix them...

[golden gust]

it just pisses me off that linux lusers will try and pull the whole preachy BS and fail to understand why linux isn't being adopted, ignoring the monoply in play

[brave mountain]

I was seriously think on make like a ong focus on free software and development

[golden gust]

people just want shit to work the exact way they're used to it working

why tf do you think 8 was hated soooo much?

people don't wanna hit some stupid snag and have to google a fix, for step 1 to be "open a terminal"

[brave mountain]

But I'm nobody

I've seen kids that say they are "discord bot developers" but don't have a clue about linux

[golden gust]

people thing tweaking a config file makes them a developer

[brave mountain]

Really?

[golden gust]

I was born mid 90s

[silver nexus]

It gets worse...

[brave mountain]

Me too

[golden gust]

There was a girl in my class who spent 10 minutes looking at the computer before she exclaimed that she didn't know how to turn it on

[silver nexus]

In my CS class a kid spent a good 10 minutes trying to find chrome, only to realize that a search bar existed. Not only that, but the icon was in both the taskbar, and on the desktop...

[brave mountain]

The "modern" schools are partly to blame

[silver nexus]

Yep.

Our school has about 3000 laptops floating around, but teaches nobody about basic troubleshooting.

[brave mountain]

I was listening and Elon interview that he makes his own school for his childrens.

[silver nexus]

Then again, they lock us out of most things that might be remotely useful for that.

[golden gust]

thing is to most is that computers are just a tool you use to get to something

[brave mountain]

And don't even need to be a tech career, to teach them something solid

[golden gust]

think about it, for our grandparents, using a computer generally meant learning how to use a command prompt, and many of them are either experienced with computers, can do the basics, or literally never touch a computer

my grandma is probably like 60ish now, am not good with years, and she's not able to use a computer at all

[brave mountain]

But

[silver nexus]

My grandma isn't great with computers, but has been able to figure out most stuff by herself.

[brave mountain]

They know useful things that are not taught today

[potent wedge]

https://wiki.vg/protocol there are links on it to old version changes and bedrock/legacy PE servers

[brave mountain]

Like farm stuff

How to grow your own food

Is like linux

And windows is fast easy food

[golden gust]

my grandfather was born like, few months before the end of WW2

and so, he was there for the rise of the PC more or less

[warm anchor]

Actually the method of growing your own food largely dont change unlike computer stuff

This goes back why everyone fucking hates changes

[brave mountain]

Isn't this something already known?

[tropic flame]

also the way people nowadays use mobile devices more than a computer, to the point where they're becoming less tech-savvy

of course this shouldn't justify not knowing how to turn a computer on but

at some point you're not "tech-savvy", you just know how to navigate an interface

with touch buttons

[brave mountain]

Yeah Smartphones are literally killing the computer market

[golden gust]

and so, my grandfather was there for the rise of the computer, and spent his years working in a firm doing stuff like PLC programming and working on switchgear and testing such, he wasn't exactly a computer wizz as such but spent a lot of time around that proximity

[silver nexus]

Oh god, one of my friends (love him dearly, but oml is he dumb sometimes) was looking for the setting to turn off his touchscreen, so he goes and googles "settings".

[brave mountain]

Human brain is made for changes

[brave mountain]

🤣

[tropic flame]

yet our nature sees change as something to be wary of because it could mean a predator

primitive type stuff we haven't fully suppressed yet

[brave mountain]

Well I'm done complaining about the system 😂

[tropic flame]

this is something else though

LMAO

[golden gust]

I mean, it's really all about exposure and will to learn

anybody who grows up in a farm will generally know how to ride a tractor by 10, type stuff

[warm anchor]

are you sure though? for all we know and what she is, she read the sign, and the sign say touch to continue

so whos at fault here?

[golden gust]

your average friend doesn't know or care enough about computers to wanna deal with learning linux, especially if it interupts their flow

your grandparents don't wanna go learn to plow a field, do you?

[warm anchor]

yeah

[golden gust]

Well, you can plow something at least

[warm anchor]

[brave mountain]

That's why shampoo has instructions

[golden gust]

EterNity.

[warm anchor]

Maybe she seem touch screen before?
so now a sign instruct her to touch (?)

[golden gust]

You're the reason for the "hot" warning on coffee.

[warm anchor]

[brave mountain]

It depends where they grew up

[tropic flame]

they should add a "burning" warning on shampoo too, since i always get it into my eyes and it sucks 😔 /s

[brave mountain]

Proper "anti dumb" documentation has to be made

[brave mountain]

Logics it says hair not eyes 😆

[tropic flame]

you can't stop me because I can't read!

[brave mountain]

[tropic flame]

"Ligics" tho

[turbid shoal]

Anyone know of a plugin like this but open source?
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/gitsync.101117/

[vital pewter]

I neeed help

I can't load paper 1.17.1 or 1.16.5

it has no download

[crystal lily]

To download old versions of Paper, click here \▶ https://papermc.io/legacy \◀ and fill out the questions. Note that old versions are completely unsupported and contain numerous bugs/exploits.

[warm anchor]

lol

if people still CANT find it, they should be yeet'd out

[vital pewter]

Paper 1.17.1 use java 17 or 16 ??

[brave mountain]

decompile it, the autor let do it

[brave mountain]

any

[left swift]

deez nuts

¿Are You OWNER?

[viral hornet]

bad

[warm anchor]

Have you seem the new Minecraft item called stun seed?

[viral hornet]

wot

[warm anchor]

yeah stun seed.... read it backward

[viral hornet]

:l

:lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

[warm anchor]

[crisp sinew]

sushi

[warm anchor]

yummy

[crisp sinew]

are you the owner of eternity?

[wet storm]

Say sus backwards🥺

[crisp sinew]

deez nu-..

[left swift]

¿Are You OWNER?

[wet storm]

No pleading today 🥺

[neon bramble]

Hi, so I have Map<Class, Something>
Now, this map contains
Object.class, FirstThing
Number.class, SecondThing

Now, I have Integer.class, I want to get SecondThing out of it.
However, when I provide String.class, I want to get the first thing.

In other words: I wanna get the closest matching class

how the hell would I do that?

[golden gust]

I mean, either you go for hard coded logic or basically devise some form of tree which you can walk down

[vernal moth]

You could order it, like object should be last, and then iterate keys and check is assignable from

I don't like that approach tho, I would make it more flexible by only having a list of things and each thing has a canHandle method

In fact, that's what I implemented yesterday at work, lol

[neon bramble]

This gets a bit unpractical when I start putting things like String.class etc. in it

[vernal moth]

Then you only need to make sure it's ordered generic last and then it's easy

[neon bramble]

and how the hell would I do that?

[vernal moth]

Well, I need more context

How many different things do you have? Is it feasible to build the list manually?

In spring I had my lovely order annotation

So that was easy ^^

[neon bramble]

At the moment, 8
Booolean, Double, LDT, Enum, Integer, Long, String and Number

but that will most likely grow

[vernal moth]

Yeah so just build the list manually

[neon bramble]

Not really feasible

[vernal moth]

How do you build it right now?

[neon bramble]

I don't

That's why I'm asking here :D

[vernal moth]

Why is that not feasible then?

[neon bramble]

Well for example, I don't want to define mapping for each enum I have

[vernal moth]

Ah

Well, then do what spring does

Class path scan for instances of your interface, give the interface an order annotation

[neon bramble]

[vernal moth]

Everything can have a default, object needs to be lowest, number needs to be lower than integer

[neon bramble]

I will try to figure something out, but thanks for the opinion

[vernal moth]

Then sort the list by order, store it, when you need to access it, iterate it and call canHandle on each still you find a match

Spring does that pattern everywhere internally

Like to find the proper http message converters for example

[neon bramble]

@vernal moth I may have done it, I've wrote a small test:

    public static void main(String[] args) {
        var map = new TreeMap<Class<?>, Integer>((first, second) -> {
            if (first.equals(second)) {
                return 0;
            }

            if (second.isAssignableFrom(first)) return -1;
            else return 1;
        });

        map.put(String.class, 1);
        map.put(Integer.class, 2);
        map.put(Double.class, 3);
        map.put(Number.class, 4);
        map.put(Object.class, 5);
        map.put(Enum.class, 6);

        map.forEach((k, v) -> System.out.println(k.getName() + ": " + v));

        System.out.println("----------------");

        print(Float.class, map);
        print(Double.class, map);
        print(Enum.class, map);
        print(LocalDateTime.class, map);
    }

    private static void print(Class<?> key, NavigableMap<Class<?>, Integer> map) {
        var ceiling = map.ceilingKey(key);

        System.out.println(key.getName() + ": " + ceiling);
    }

Which outputs:

java.lang.String: 1
java.lang.Integer: 2
java.lang.Double: 3
java.lang.Number: 4
java.lang.Enum: 6
java.lang.Object: 5
----------------
java.lang.Float: class java.lang.Number
java.lang.Double: class java.lang.Double
java.lang.Enum: class java.lang.Enum
java.time.LocalDateTime: class java.lang.Object

Which seems like exactly what I want

or it is just a coincidence that it works :D

[vernal moth]

Well, yeah, you just used an ordered map now

But that doesn't solve anything cause you said it's not feasible to hard code the map, lol

Plus I would use a linked map instead, well, I wouldn't use a map but a list, but whatever

[neon bramble]

Oh, we may have meant different things by hardcoding the map :D

[next frost]

well this will only work with a NavigableMap like that

[neon bramble]

This is just a test, there will be something more useful than an integer as a value there.

[untold meadow]

what is even the xy here - this sounds like awful design

[neon bramble]

😳

Smells like xy for sure

[vernal moth]

As I saw using a map here feels really ugly, a list of providers sounds way more clean

Java is object oriented, so you might as well make use of that

[next frost]

but your comparator violates the contract anyways, so you might encounter issues with that

[neon bramble]

yeah

[vapid egret]

hi

[twin lagoon]

https://sourceforge.net/projects/nbtfsutils/ what

[golden gust]

ofc

[neon bramble]

that's...

cursed

on my way to try that lol

oh fuck

there are no binaries available?

Too lazy to build it myself

[ashen cliff]

FUSE was a mistake.

[void void]

@neon bramble :)

hippo!

buoyant big animal

does anyone know what i can do to earn extra cash during weekends?

working 5 days a week isnt enough for me

i really want to make money...

if anyone has any ideas what i can do, tell

[ashen cliff]

Freelance, help at events, overtime, ...

[smoky cloud]

Invest in Bitcoin ||/s||

[mossy vessel]

Wrong job, then

Just get a one that is better payed

[ashen cliff]

Or you know, spend less.

[worn crest]

1,69€ for e95 in Belgium thats good 👀

[ashen cliff]

I remember it being 0.99€... god damn last year was good.

[worn crest]

I only know 1,30€ in 2013

We love taxes

[ashen cliff]

We probably only hit 0.99€, so that that government could stop regulating prices without backlash...
Right after the biggest petrol company here forcefully replaced their management, due to "underperformance".
... Months after they got multiple awards for being the best 3 directors that we ever god damn had...

[potent wedge]

I like how the people in the vanilla bug tracking place just close everything randomly to the point where things haved to be repeated multiple times for it to actually be read by someone who isnt part of mojang

[merry warren]

Anyone know how to change the typing cursor from | to _ and back again?

[worn crest]

If you have a full size keyboard it should be the key above the Delete button 🤔 or something in that area

[merry warren]

Thanks

l e g e n dddd

[worn crest]

I want that price too

[golden gust]

!ban @unkempt walrus epileptic jumpscare

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned noble.#7966 (epileptic jumpscare) [1 total infraction] -- electronicboy#8869.

[wide chasm]

Fucking hell

[worn ember]

aw i missed it

[limber knot]

irc has the link still lol

holy crap it makes itself fulscreen and stuff

[worn ember]

kek

[golden gust]

as we used to say

IRC never forgets

[worn ember]

mama, just killed a man

[left swift]

cat is ur momma?

[worn ember]

no u

[wet storm]

M9mma

[wet storm]

Nomana is your mama?

[worn ember]

nomama

[wet storm]

Nomamasendhelp sounds different

[worn ember]

sounds hot

[left swift]

[wet storm]

Manypokidontsendhelp

[wet storm]

Tell me everything about poki you know

[limber knot]

imagine simping to 3d woman

[wet storm]

Imagine simping for a furry character

[tropic flame]

https://c.tenor.com/dlpFTBMvnS0AAAAM/queen-freddie-mercury.gif

[golden gust]

oh

I raise, you, noooo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqBAEC-4NgQ

[wet storm]

I don't wanna die. But sometimes wish I'd never been born at all

[wet storm]

Does minecraft have some entities which can go through blocks?

[left swift]

vex

[wet storm]

I am thinking about making some mod which have "terraria-like" bosses which can go through blocks and players will need to make real strategies for them

[warm anchor]

So like ender dragon

[wet storm]

Ah, yeah, another good example

[warm anchor]

Ended dragon would be whole lot harder to kill if he doesn’t go for crystal and just run after you like a zombie tbf

[limber knot]

ender dragon is ez

they made it better after 1.9

[wet storm]

I realize now, why I should make plugins which should look like mods if I can create mods rather than other plugin devs I know, I need to stop people make plugins if they can create better content with mods at least on server networks I worked on

[limber knot]

uwt

they have two different purpose

[wet storm]

I know, but if you try to make mods using plugins you do something incorrect

[limber knot]

yes but making a plugin into a mod is also not right

morally

[wet storm]

Basically plugin is a modification to minecraft and it is also a mod

Despite the fact that it all using very different approaches

[limber knot]

morally it would be incorrect

:thumbsup:

[wet storm]

Who cares about morality... /s

[limber knot]

we only care baout moral without the m :o

[left swift]

baout

[limber knot]

2 fast 4 keybordz

[novel horizon]

So I found an old usb key, mine

kinda cool, old files

but also i found virus lol and i run it by accident

[limber knot]

2004 whut

[novel horizon]

happens 🤷‍♂️

the 2004 one is the virus lol

[limber knot]

that's your fault at that time

lol

[novel horizon]

its safe to have it stored

not to run it tho

[limber knot]

i hope nothing happened?

[novel horizon]

well i was kid, so 🤷‍♂️

probably no

antivir got it and it's really old one

kinda cool tho anyway

[limber knot]

go scan with kaspersky live 10 on a usb or cd if you want to be sure

it's cool

do you pay for your antivirus though?

[novel horizon]

yep

a lot

I use Win Defender 😎

[limber knot]

i don't use antivirus for 2 years, disabled win defender too

[novel horizon]

it's alright

but its cool that i got some really old files

[limber knot]

i think if people know what they're doing on the net, they won't need antivirus

what are they

you keep saying "files" but like lol

old "homework" folder or something

[novel horizon]

some random ones i downloaded from internet, even some games

videos, music

games

[limber knot]

pirate lol

crachgamesfree123.com

this keyboard

[novel horizon]

technic launcher, mc launcher

some movies too

[limber knot]

well anyway i kinda deleted a lot of my old files with safe erasing soo

[novel horizon]

lol t here's tools for some.. things

[limber knot]

i will not have a moment like this

[novel horizon]

NeoTracePro

Putty

[limber knot]

lol

[novel horizon]

brutus

👀

lol i have some old .swf games also

old minecraft saves O_o

well should probably delete the virus

kinda cool virus tho, or at least it was