spigot
#general
void void
ashen cliff
Looking at the fact that this exist: https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/checkpoints-easy-checkpoints-for-your-server-1-10-50-off-first-100-buyers.63112/
Probably not.
ashen cliff
You never looked at the least downloaded Premium plugins did you?
void void
i guess i can make something from this idea. im bookmarking this
void void
You never looked at the least downloaded Premium plugins did you?
never looked at download counts at all
ashen cliff
void void
yeet
void void
they're all abandoned it looks like except one or two
void void
I fucking hate spigots site
use dark reader :pepe_sleep:
golden gust
Like, idk wtf it is, but their cloudflare setup just shits the bed like, once a week
(at minimum)
ashen cliff
Cuz U A Bot.
void void
also I don't know why they're all against adding api for direct download of plugins
golden gust
md has been entirely against automated access for years
ashen cliff
Because even they know that we can't trust plugin devs.
golden gust
The newer API was basically a consession for the fact that the other version API thing was kinda dying afaik
so, people where more and more depending on spiget
noting that md has threatened IT many times over her website
void void
md can do shit about spiget 
he can only try making downloads harder but inventivetalent will find another way of bypassing this
golden gust
i mean, he's not a PHP dev, otherwise limiting that stuff would be somewhat trivial in a sense
ashen cliff
To be fair, that whole štik with Spiget broke a lot of other setups... so that's nice.
ashen cliff
You used to be able to wget/curl without Cloudflare complaining, but just the /download parts.
Not anymore.
golden gust
md tried to basically harden up stuff over the past god knows how long
e.g. the fact that you literally can't even access the site much without CF doing a scan
md is pretty darn fucking hostile towards automated access to the point where he's more than willing to make much else assery over stuff
ashen cliff
So, now I, with the best internet possible, have to download a 10MB jar and suffer for 3 minutes while it uploads to my server.
void void
what does assery mean
hangar coming soon™️ right?
if it's not gonna have another rewrite
golden gust
Yea, it's a WIP, but, mini is much happier with the tech stack now
you'll see he's much active again
worn crest
hangar coming soon™️ right?
Give Martin a cup of coffee to speed him up for the next hour
ashen cliff
Pißwasser. 🛌
worn crest
Pißwasser. 🛌
Oktoberfestival
worthy geode
Kölsch?
void void
scheiße
void void
the only german I know is: "My Name ist Peter"
that's it
learning it for 2 years now and I dont know anything else
worn crest
And one English word included 
stuck lynx
Mein
void void
oh also the numbers
nul, ein, tswei, drei, vier, funf, sechs, sieben, acht, neun, zehn
stuck lynx
null, eins, zwei
void void
ok ok pls don't kill me
worn crest
Null, eins, zwei, drei, vier, fünf..
void void
i dont know how to write them
worn crest
A German would understand you. We cant understand Bavaria and Austrian
drifting path
Does anyone know what fonts are these? (Kennytv uses on his IntelliJ)
wide chasm
Looks like... Consolas, maybe?
quasi valley
https://i.imgur.com/ECKpIYy.png and the rainbow brackets plugin
wide chasm
Woo, guessed correctly!
drifting path
thx kenny
btw
Why you don't run your IntelliJ normally? (Like you're using some different app for it)
something like a vm idk
quasi valley
It's normal IntelliJ, just inside of wslg to not have to wait a minute for the patch process because Windows
drifting path
I'm gonna take a look at it, thanks so much
worthy geode
I somehow forgot that this a thing, I need to setup that as well, WSL is so slow
worn ember
Just let other people do the patching 
works for me
@meager tusk did you manage to dismantle that virus?
vernal moth
why is NPM such a mess
urg
I just want, when locally, vite to auto update dependencies from a 1st party package I have locally
but the whole dependency module seems to make that impossible
worn ember
I never really liked how npm does its dep tree stuff but i honestly wouldnt know how they could do it better
not touching JS seems to be a good solution tho 
java to wasm wen
limber knotBOT
Remember: IRC is bad.
worn ember
liking your own message 
drifting path
It's normal IntelliJ, just inside of wslg to not have to wait a minute for the p...
Would you say that the wslg looks a bit "laggy"? like if you have a 144hz monitor?
brave mountain
It's normal IntelliJ, just inside of wslg to not have to wait a minute for the p...
wanna try
but better bare metal
glass crag
Is it better than opening a wsl project inside windows intellij?
twin lagoon
can also use jetbrains projector + wsl
void geyser
Economy system plugin reccomendation? there's too much available
formal void
dumb question: where’d the name “paper” come from?
worthy geode
Economy system plugin reccomendation? there's too much available
really depends on what you need
people mean different things when saying "economy plugin". Some just want money, some also expect stuff like shops etc
brave mountain
dumb question: where’d the name “paper” come from?
fastness
void geyser
really depends on what you need
just gonna use GUIShop. https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/guishop.2451/ I want to add some shops, pretty simple stuff, you sell diamond to get coin, you can get some food with the coin
Thats just it, i don't want to make my servers pay to win, You can't get coin with real money
worthy geode
that would be against the EULA
void geyser
wdym?
what i mean by "money" is like the in game money
i changed the money to "coins" to avoid confusions
in the Vaults Spigot there is a list of Economy system, but everything in there seems old
golden gust
I mean
it's an eco plugin
they're very darn simple outside of the ones which try to add a lot of extra unneeded fluff
and, very few other than those wanting to just add fluff bother creating eco plugins these days
find a maintained fork of craftconomy is the general recommendation these days
quasi valley
Unneeded fluff like UUID support? 
void geyser
yeah so, your recommendation that's still maintained at least?
I don't want to use like 7 years old plugin
void geyser
does that still works tho?
wet storm
-.-
golden gust
well, yea, essentials comes with essentialsecon built in
twin lagoon
still impressive how no one has built a proper economy plugin
golden gust
in a world with vault, yea...
Like, if you wanna make a replacement eco plugin, these days, you really need to replace vault
replacing vault you either gotta provide a bridge for vault or convince people to support your new fancy thing
then you gotta like, deal with actually creating the new eco plugin
pale hinge
hi guys. is there any plugin to add a fee for entering end or nether portals?
i want my players to pay to go the end.
meager tusk
<@!589898090174218243> did you manage to dismantle that virus?
not really
i haven't looked at it much
from what i saw with wireshark it's trying to get the msi but failing
ashen cliff
Probably some old dead virus?
void geyser
just gonna use GUIShop. https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/guishop.2451/ I want ...
yeah i think i shouldn't use GUIShop
ashen cliff
yeah i think i shouldn't use GUIShop
Should probably check the config to disallow debt.
void geyser
Should probably check the config to disallow debt.
Wait, there's debt?
void geyser
damn it
like, whats the use of that?
well at least that need a perm
i should've test it without op permission
ashen cliff
Depends on your server I guess.
There is a lot of things that can be done with negative balance, but again, depends on you.
Could just make the player totally bankrupt and make them pay debt. 
void geyser
Send him to gulag
magic river
There is a whole server type for that
ashen cliff
Also seen that done. If you go below lets say 100, you get send to a jail where you have to cut wood and sell it, till you have enough money to get out.
Or escape...
and get banned twice.
quasi valley
it's actually pronounced "Jeff"
magic river
Going wildly offtopic from #paper-dev so moving here, whatever happened to all the people who would sell you a plugin to add X+1 features to version X? Did ViaVersion kill the market since people mostly just wanted the protocol compat and not all the new features?
There were like 2 or 3 updates where people were selling plugins or forks of CraftBukkit where they patched in protocol support and new blocks and crap
golden gust
viaversion killed it especially as more stuff became dependent on new chunk gen anyways
I don't really recall the plugin to do that surviving all too far, tbqh
biggest thing people wanted was to avoid losing players who didn't know how to use the launcher to select a version, people can live without extra features for a few weeks and is a better alternative than them just not being able to connect
magic river
I know for one release md5 put out a spigot build that added protocol support just to spite those people 😛
golden gust
Yea, but then there was a plugin which added the missing blocks for him 😄
that was basically in the middle of the DMCA drama
worn ember
Someone just made an issue about RTP "endlessly generating new chunk" in a void world...
I wonder why
magic river
TIL PNG is meant to be pronounced "ping" and was originally called PING for "PING Is Not GIF"
It's even in the spec http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/spec/1.2/PNG-Introduction.html
PNG is pronounced "ping".
little frost
and they called it ping because they saw how ambiguous gif was so they thought "there's no way PNG is ambiguous and can't be pronounced in any way other than ping"
except I've only ever heard P-N-G
magic river
"PNG" is always spelled* "PNG" (or "Portable Network Graphics") and always pronounced "ping" in English, not "pinj" or "pee en gee" or any other multi-syllabic disaster.
magic river
This is some evil shit https://www.fakeupdate.net/
golden gust
<brokenlcd.png>
magic river
Did you see the part where pressing a key makes it fake a BSOD instead?
void void
Alright, which one of you guys is already using java 19
ashen cliff
Us.
spiral robin
I’m on Java 21
wet storm
Imagine using development loom build and being that man with java 99
peak ginkgo
https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/23/22992066/stephen-wilhite-gif-creator-dies
Twitter
wet storm
😭
peak ginkgo
I’m on Java 21
🫂
wet storm
rip
peak ginkgo
it used to be 103 so i'm glad they shaved 3 plugins
spiral robin
dejay 😔
waxen panther
Alright, which one of you guys is already using java 19
rare python
Okay, gimme a second, I am gonna put together a meme server.
Time to generate 200 legacy plugins lets go
wet storm
Time to generate 200 legacy plugins lets go
♿ ♿ ♿
rare python
worthy geode
oh no
rare python
So in about half an hour? There will be a server with 666 plugins, you will know who that is.
Maybe I should increase the count?
neon bramble
Maybe I should increase the count?
No, 666 is the only option
rare python
maybe 66666?
neon bramble
420666
rare python
My computer cant handle more then 6 didgets.
rare python
I can't open the plugins folder in my file manager.
It causes it to lag out or crash.
Its too many plugins
There is also the question if the server can handle it.
wet storm
btw, what do you think, what is the most legacy component in Bukkit API?
rare python
As in the oldest?
Umm.
mv cant move the plugins
There is too many
Uhhhh
I guess I will have to generate them in place.
Torture.
native wolf
oh my God
rare python
Ever wondered what a braindead amount of plugins looks like?
rare python
66666 Legacy Plugins
wet storm
btw, what do you think, what is the most legacy component in Bukkit API?
okay, prob I found it
rare python
What does it do?
native wolf
evil stuff
native wolf
I wonder if the server is playable.
it probably is if the plugins don't actually listen to any events or do anything
wet storm
But what?
some Material / ItemsStack conversions, really weird NMS interact with World / Blocks etc. and it contains int IDs of all legacy materials
like
Imagine people using it cuz "int is faster than Strings or NamespacedKeys"...
rare python
ashen cliff
Just display plugins in the tablist.
wet storm
oh...
hexed dragon
https://t.co/RzwgWQJIL9 Minecraft website having problems.
wet storm
💀 💀 💀 💀
rare python
The question is, how many of the actual legacy plugins are just plugins that don't specify an API version.
vernal moth
Excuse me.
omg mojang cancelling the burning of leaves
ashen cliff
Can't be having that.
It's nice that they probably also added a new dupe method. Thank you for another entity with storage.
rare python
Time to stay on 1.18.2 forever.
Shutting down this server with 66666 plugins takes a very long time.
ashen cliff
Did you at least unregister them?
void void
im worried
i got an email from work that I should come to their office for an "evaluation"
what does that even mean?!
im worried
was i a bad worker?
i dont know anything
im worried
it doesnt feel good at all
i dont know what to do
vernal moth
I have an "evaluation" every 3 months, lol
magic river
I'm supposed to, seems people only care about the end of year one
vernal moth
its the formal meeting where my boss tells me am doing great and sometimes gives me more money, lol
magic river
Well, and the goal setting one which isn't really an eval
magic river
How long have you worked there?
void void
i just want to go to work and make money
1 month
i have barely even started working here and they already call me to their office
magic river
Could just be to see how you're doing
You work remote but are close enough to be called in to the office?
void void
they could do that on the phone or on email
i dont want them calling me to their office
like what the heck
magic river
Face to face they can be more personable, see if you're lying about being okay with things, etc
void void
i probably made too many mistakes and now they might tell me bye bye
magic river
Maybe introduce you to people
void void
Maybe introduce you to people
i dont like that
magic river
Or, yeah, they could be telling you this was a trial period and it's not going to work out
void void
Or, yeah, they could be telling you this was a trial period and it's not going t...
noooooo
noooo
what will i do then?
magic river
Normally trial period would be 3 months but maybe you're really obviously bad at your job
magic river
1 month I'd expect it's more of just a "how are you doing getting up to speed?" and such
void void
i need this job
nooo
no one else gets an "evaluation" meeting
fuck
i wanna cry
shit
no
magic river
Are you bad at your job?
void void
i have probably made too many mistakes
magic river
You can't tell?
hexed dragon
Never counted.
void void
to me it seemed like they arent too many but what do i know
magic river
If you can't think of anything you've done obviously wrong like swearing at the customers or skipping work half the week then it's probably just them trying to be friendly and make sure you aren't having any troubles
void void
but i did make a lot of mistakes one time
magic river
Or it's them bringing you to to teach you the things they think you're having trouble with
void void
and i've probably made a decent amount of mistakes afterwards
magic river
The only time I've ever seen someone get fired after a month it was because they missed 1-3 days of work every week
hexed dragon
This doesn't sound that bad.
golden gust
companies know that the first few months of hiring a dev is generally wasted time
unless you really fucked up it's probs just seeing how it's going, march reviews, etc
magic river
Like, you have to really screw up to get fired after a month unless the place you're working for is awful
void void
i probably did
magic river
No, it would be very obvious if you screwed up like that
left swift
huh why you think you're getting fired on an evaluation meeting
waxen panther
magic river
Like you deleted the production server or uploaded porn to the company twitter account or swore at the customers or stopping going to work
left swift
go put ur shoes in a bag
waxen panther
i got most my shoes in bags
left swift
that's not all
golden gust
gitlab like o.O
void void
huh why you think you're getting fired on an evaluation meeting
"evaluation" might be their way of either calling me to tell me "based on how well you've been working you've been far too bad of an employee and now you are on thin ice. If you make another mistake you're fired." or "based on how well you've worked here you're fired. Don't come back here ever again"
hexed dragon
https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-22w12a the website back.
void void
evaluation
-You're a bad worker
left swift
sure
void void
but i tried to work good
its not like i didny
i even worked fast sometimes
just so that i can at least somewhat satisfy people
left swift
nice
vernal moth
just chill and hear what they say
no need to worry about stuff that may or may not happen
its a waste of time
void void
if they dont like how many mistakes i've made in a certain position they can just move me to a lower one
they dont necessarily need to get rid of me
they have the option of making me work at a lower position
left swift
void void
that also works for me
vernal moth
inb4 they just wanna promote you and you shitting yourself over here
placid thicket
so i got a worldguard claim, and graves from vanilla tweaks which use armor stands. if someone dies in the protected claim they cant interact with armor stands, so i want to give them JUST that ability. anyone got a command i can use from console to fix that?
brave mountain
we need an electric car in java, gas is just goin up
lilac moon
why in java
lilac moon
why Java specifically though
left swift
covfeefee
lilac moon
I would imagine they'd use like c or CPP probably
brave mountain
does gas increases affect minecraft servers economy?
left swift
@waxen panther
waxen panther
nah im good
void void
inb4 they just wanna promote you and you shitting yourself over here
promote me for what? im just the same as everyone else but worse cuz i made 11 mistakes in a single day
void void
hold my hand dude
im worried for tomorrow's meeting
money is money
i need shelter food and water
i need moni dude
talk l8r
im walking home now
chat l8r
vernal moth
promote me for what? im just the same as everyone else but worse cuz i made 11 m...
Only 11?
I made no measurable progress the whole week because am running around stupid issues with npm
It's normal
void void
yeah but you're a highly skilled dev working for a nice paper boss
and i work for a logistics company that has expensive equipment and sends out products at certain dates and times
golden gust
highly skilled dev
I mean
nah, I can't knock him too much, he's kinda lovely, sometimes
but, shit happens, especially first month
companies know that, it's why they have procedures to prevent shit happening, etc
if you caused damage, that's generally a fuckup on their behalf
vernal moth
yeah but you're a highly skilled dev working for a nice paper boss
Paper isn't my day job, lol, I work for an insurance company
wet storm
evening 💀
brave mountain
I wonder if any full time developer on paper / OSS
worn ember
@warm anchor this game was so painful
worn ember
dota 2
wide chasm
There are developers working full-time on OSS, but not on Paper. Or rather, not working on Paper for a salary and stuff.
worn ember
well the orignal was a warcraft mod
vestal jasper
Dota 1 was a-
wide chasm
Yes
vestal jasper
Yeah. DOTA the mod started it all, then the team split and started LoL and DOTA 2
No it's not
worn ember
its from valve
vestal jasper
The founders split. Two teams two directions
worn ember
icefrog and idk who the other guy was
vestal jasper
It's a league item named after someone
But idk if that was the item named after a player
left swift
dota 2 
brave mountain
Is reversing engineer a game than has terminated considered piracy?
golden gust
depends on local laws, etc
left swift
papermc is a sovereign nation and we have no laws
brave mountain
I have examples, and they hasn't been tacked down from github
golden gust
I mean, it varies
brave mountain
under gpl
golden gust
many times the copyright holders aren't around or the thing is considered abandonware and they don't care
left swift
what about mlp cat
golden gust
redistribution of stuff is a massively grey area especially for licensed works, but, many companies don't care about abandonware
ofc, "don't care" != "legal"
speak to a lawyer
magic river
icefrog took over DotA when the creator quit, iirc
brave mountain
NFSW was abandoned, and some player remarked the server in java, of course they didn't touch the game just make the game run in a custom java server
waxen panther
i miss Z, he was a real armchair lawyer
magic river
I think the LoL part comes from people who made a fan site for it, not a mod dev?
void void
omg i hate md_5 why did he put so much cloudflare into spigot
i click on "Insert quotes" and i get a cloudflare error -_-
magic river
"so much cloudflare"
It's a proxy, it sits in front of the whole site
He isn't doing some extra integration or something
It's on or off
void void
im fairly sure he does some voodoo magic in the site's settings in cloudflare
i mean im in the site and i click on "Inset quotes" and I get a cloudflare error like wtf dude
magic river
Was the cloudflare error something like "the server didn't respond"? 
void void
Was the cloudflare error something like "the server didn't respond"? <:LULW:5966...
didn't take a look at all, saw it was cloudflare. either this or 429
golden gust
You can configure how hard CF goes
and generally these days he has CF configured kinda hard
magic river
Clicking that button apparently made a network request
Which means cloudflare because it's all through cloudflare
magic river
Are you botting the forums or something? 😛
magic river
It's not really "because of cloudflare", it just does what md5 told it to 😛
void void
im fairly sure he set a ratelimit of 1 request per 5 seconds or something like that
20 requests per min or sth
i did ratelimits once in my life and it was a painful experience
void void
so you redirected requests to different threads
oh wait nvm i thought we're on java topic now
i have so many shit in my head
magic river
I don't think cloudflare has any kind of social credit system where you look fishy so you get a lower limit
void void
I just jumped around threads pretty hard, worked fine
try doing 6 threads one after each other
magic river
I just did like 10
void void
looks like it got fixed
was happening to me i click on 4-5 threads 1 of them loads and the other 3-4 threads i got 429
magic river
Must have been under attack then
I know it does have an option to automatically ramp up the restrictions while an attack is in progress
left swift
ghillie in nwaf with as50
void void
about doing ratelimits in java; i like this approach of them https://github.com/YatopiaMC/api.yatopiamc.org/blob/master/src/main/java/org/yatopiamc/site/api/util/RateLimiter.java
although I dont know why i tried doing it much harder when i was doing it
magic river
Huh, the three big companies in computers are RGB
Red (AMD), Green (nvidia), Blue (Intel)
worn ember
it was always meant to be
vernal moth
Nvidia makes the best drivers on windows, the only platform that really matters for gaming GPUs
worn ember
nvidia linux drivers are just 🤮
tell me why they should care about a 0.01% userbase?
void void
my roommate also received the same email and now im relaxed
he also got an evaluation email
im much more relaxed now
i deserve a hug
worn ember
thanks for reminding me i gotta do an evaluation 
void void
tell me why they should care about a 0.01% userbase?
here's the loophole: people can't realize there's a better OS than windows: linux, but even if they do realize it's better they won't switch because there aren't many mainstream apps supporting linux and there aren't more mainstream apps supporting linux because linux doesn't have much userbase currently
golden gust
meanwhile intel's GPU drivers on linux are generally 10/10, just, on windows they're generally a shit show
worn ember
sucks to suck ig
golden gust
better
void void
i have intel on linux
void void
meanwhile intel's GPU drivers on linux are generally 10/10, just, on windows the...
yep intel's side is reversed for some reason
worn ember
well intel is usually enterprise right?
void void
> just throw out all of your games and applications!
if you stick to steam games you're good to go. if you wanna play that shit LoL or that other shit made by the most dogshit company after nvidia and microsoft - riot games, called valorant, then you're screwed
everything else has alternatives, imo much better than windows apps
twin lagoon
if you stick to steam games you're good to go. if you wanna play that shit LoL o...
or every other multiplayer AAA game on the market
void void
or every other multiplayer AAA game on the market
for example
twin lagoon
left swift
how dare you share opinions in this papermc general chat discord for minecraft spigot fork
void void
https://www.protondb.com/explore
cyberpunk's bork already on windows how's it gonna run on linux
the good thing about linux is that stuff is changing ; every application and every game ported to the steamdeck is gonna work on the whole linux family
twin lagoon
the steam deck is making big changes to the linux gaming scene
but it's still gonna take a while before everything works properly
golden gust
linux elitism does nothing good
void void
linus back in 2014 said: valve is going to save linux desktop ; now we're 2022 we're seeing just that
twin lagoon
also a good point
the libre/openoffice experience is sub optimal, office does not run normally
golden gust
Like, cool, they're making progress in a specific area of the market, but, you've not got the user install base, you've not got the hardware support, desktop distros are still kinda shit and not really user friendly, etc,etc
void void
the libre/openoffice experience is sub optimal, office does not run normally
libreoffice is shit, idk about openoffice didn't try it, but onlyoffice is a very good replacement of MS office
not ideal, but works very good
golden gust
people aren't gonna generally care to screw around with a free alternative for something which they need for work, etc
void void
so people want to pay 100$ to that dogshit company microsoft instead of using an OS for free
native wolf
sadly, the only variant of Wine where MS Office works normally is CrossOver, which is paid and proprietary
golden gust
100$ is fuck all for something which works
plucky sparrow
linus back in 2014 said: valve is going to save linux desktop ; now we're 2022 w...
yeah games
golden gust
especially something you get a damned good ROI over
twin lagoon
most people will either have a windows copy included with their computer and then you also have people who just buy sketchy keys for $7
alternatively they just use a github activation script 
wide chasm
And for enterprise, I mean, 100 dollars is nothing to them
golden gust
Like, at the end of the day, people expect shit to work
and as soon as they find something which doesn't, or they hand in a file and the free software borks it up, they're gonna switch back
twin lagoon
there's also a fair share of linux contributions from microsoft
void void
alternatively they just use a github activation script <:PepeLa:7659295417806356...
that's what I used when i used windows btw ; but not a github activation script, a set of commands to remove the watermark and unlock all the locked features
void void
there's also a fair share of linux contributions from microsoft
yes, all directed towards linux server, because they admit it's better than windows server
worn ember
Well people are still lazy and will not learn something new when what they use works fine
golden gust
it's not lazy as much as they don't have a clue
worn ember
only if it interests them or there are significant benefits to it
twin lagoon
dualbooting is extremely inconvenient
drops all motivation to reboot just to run <insert application>
void void
never tried dualbooting and will never try it
golden gust
Like, the only people using linux are doing so because they got their hand pushed over shoddy hardware and are already somewhat technically inclined, or the "neckbeards"
twin lagoon
got the perfect balance between windows & linux now
void void
i'd rather go extreme with wine if there isn't a replacement program of this one and if it doesn't work with wine then we're going into VM
worn ember
i tried linux several time but usually i have to google literally everything i do so i just get annoyed and switch back to windows
twin lagoon
yeah linux still doesn't excel in good user experiences (not that windows or apple do either, but they're still better)
golden gust
the sad reality is that your average computer user turns on the computer and clicks the edge button and googles google, and searches for youtube
wine is also such a fragile mess
worn ember
I'd love to use linux as a daily driver but rn it just doesnt work for me
void void
got the perfect balance between windows & linux now
your discord profile looks exactly like what VSauce would have
plucky sparrow
The only reason I’d use windows is for games and I barely do that so Linux / macOS 🏆
void void
the sad reality is that your average computer user turns on the computer and cli...
linux is very good at doing this
golden gust
Like, it's great that such a thing exists but it's far from being suitable for normie PC users
No
silver nexus
the sad reality is that your average computer user turns on the computer and cli...
My friend was trying to get to the windows settings and googled “settings”
golden gust
Linux is not very good at doing that
people expect to be able to do stuff
download apps
and it magically pulls a .exe or a .msi file
worn ember
terminal scurry
void void
I am very intrigued by this Roosters person
golden gust
and they click it, and it runs
void void
He barely talks, mostly reacts
golden gust
Not, "hey, I wanna install chrome!" to start, open a terminal
silver nexus
He barely talks, mostly reacts
Lol I do that for fun
void void
cuz he doesnt usually talk and he has that name
plucky sparrow
Is it that inconvenient to open the terminal to install it? I find it a lot handier and nicer
silver nexus
I could talk more but that would ruin the intrigue
native wolf
to be fair, most desktop distros today include a GUI installer that installs packages in similar fashion to MSI installers
wide chasm
The average user thinks that opening a shell is equivalent to hacking the government
golden gust
for your average end user who struggles to open a web browser? yes.
plucky sparrow
to be fair, most desktop distros today include a GUI installer that installs pac...
That too ^^
silver nexus
My name was made for a kahoot in 3rd grade and I just kept it for everything
void void
How often do you see a profile such as RoostersEatYou
golden gust
the GUI installer only works for stuff in there
and for cases where the OS has a standardised package type which venders offer
void void
@golden gust sorry but I have to ping you, chat became messy. So you tell me searching in google, downloading a .msi or .exe file from a shady website is safer than using a package manager (be it from the terminal or a gui installer, such as pop shop)
plucky sparrow
Admittedly Linux distros are usually very pleasuring to use but the lack of some apps is annoying
golden gust
safer
silver nexus
How often do you see a profile such as RoostersEatYou
Never, that’s why it’s amazing! Nobody else would ever use it.
plucky sparrow
macOS is just the perfect spot
golden gust
they expect to be able to do stuff the way they've done stuff for the past 10 years
silver nexus
Plus alt names are easy to come up with, like my MC alt is “RoostersEatTwo”
golden gust
windows is basically, sadly, the defacto OS formany dozen people
void void
macOS is just the perfect spot
well yes, but actually no. if linux can't do games, mac os can't at all
wide chasm
I think that, even if you give the average user a working environment that has everything they need with fancy GUIs and stuff, the user will not understand why this is different to just using Windows.
golden gust
macOS is a fun one because it's weird as shit, but, is very easy given many UI hints, etc
silver nexus
Anyways, back to lurking/schoolwork. 👋
plucky sparrow
Productivity wise macOS is by far the best (imo), gaming wise windows rocks it unfortunately
native wolf
macOS is miles ahead of Windows, and that comes from an Apple hater basically
golden gust
as they say, nobody gets a mac for gaming, but, where games do exist it generally works fairly well
worn ember
macOS is miles ahead of Windows, and that comes from an Apple hater basically
you literally still cant put windows next to each other easily how tf is it "miles ahead"
golden gust
But, once again, the entire matter of fact here is that end users just wanna use their computer without having to learn
plucky sparrow
Unfortunately yeah
wide chasm
Windows is already too difficult for people
worn ember
weed out the weak
native wolf
Windows is already too difficult for people
that's sadly true
void void
linux is dominating the market everywhere else but desktops. why? microsoft's shady dogshit business in the 90s of selling pcs with preinstalled windows ; people being lazy
plucky sparrow
Windows is disgusting
waxen panther
paper general on top form today
golden gust
it doesn't matter if linux is more secure, it's completely different, etc; maybe for your grandparents who just turn it on and click stuff, but, as soon as something they expect to work doesn't,you're getting a call
frank otter
where did Paper General Model Chatter go
worn ember
go eat a stick
plucky sparrow
Especially seeing the requirements for windows 11
wide chasm
Many people only know how to work with Windows because they've been taught where to click to perform the general daily actions they need to. Ask an average user to do anything on Windows which is even slightly unfamiliar to them and they'll be clueless.
golden gust
microsofts shady business AND offering a competent OS which worked
waxen panther
where did Paper General Model Chatter go
i have retired from paper general
plucky sparrow
So only good news today
frank otter
Destiny Model Player?
native wolf
the fundamental problem with end users is that they literally don't know how to read
worn ember
My mom can use her programs at work in windows but dont ask her to upload an image to facebook
waxen panther
traded the paper general masochism for destiny masochism
plucky sparrow
yes because end users just want stuff to work out of the box which is quite a fair point that makes a lot of sense for many. It’s one of the things I love from macOS
wide chasm
To some extent, if you have to read the GUI is probably not very well designed.
frank otter
fair enough, is destiny that much better?
waxen panther
destiny is way better than talking to 12 year olds here
at least i can bag them in destiny
void void
Especially seeing the requirements for windows 11 <:kekw:674093681963302933>
this is what really pushed me into migrating in linux. The TPM chip, the looks of windows 11, it's all disgusting. I heavily thought about migrating before doing it though but doing it is the biggest pleasure I have
worn ember
jokes on you i'm 2 12 year olds
wide chasm
And computers were originally not intended to be used by everyone, so design-wise, stuff isn't that great.
waxen panther
mentally 1/2 12 year olds
worn ember
no proof
native wolf
I get blown away when I hear that there are some people who don't know how to change their password on Facebook (or any other service, FB is a popular example here)
left swift
i have retired from paper general
excuse me? I am the commander in chief of papermc general and you're out here talking lies?
plucky sparrow
this is what really pushed me into migrating in linux. The TPM chip, the looks o...
It’s the issue, you can have a quite decent computer and yet not be able to use windows 11 because you don’t have tpm
golden gust
You have to remember that computers and the web are, in the scheme of things, a recent thing
many websites are also just badly designed
and, generally, computing requires a general set of way of thinking
"oh, maybe the place where I change my password is in the preferences",etc
end users want to get there fast, not search around in general different places, and often if they can't find it in 5 clicks, they're done
wide chasm
Mobile phones and tablets are much more user-friendly designed. Not perfect, but definitely much better.
void void
im feeling a little fun so i think im going to try to utilize what little knowledge of java i have in order to make a simple java graphical application
also, i pet the electroniccat for it is british
golden gust
mobiles and tablets have the advantage of a native "interface"
void void
microsofts shady business AND offering a competent OS which worked
a competent OS which spies on you, collects your personal data, full of viruses, when it comes to a problem you can't do shit. The best OS I can say!!! /s
golden gust
i.e. your finger
plucky sparrow
Mobile phones have by far the best user experience
golden gust
You're missing the entire point where end users don't give a shit
plucky sparrow
Yet some brands screw it up
void void
Mobile phones and tablets are much more user-friendly designed. Not perfect, but...
because it's all running under unix and not microshit
left swift
@plucky sparrow OMG BEST DAP OMGMGMGM
plucky sparrow
Shut your ass nomana please for the love of god
left swift
mofs
worn ember
You're missing the entire point where end users don't give a shit
talking to a wall lul
left swift
mods
golden gust
you can't put on your set of requirements towards a product and apply it to all users
Like
if you're gonna have an honest discussion here, at least apply some capacity to view stuff outside of your own window
wide chasm
No average end user even knows what unix is, let alone caring about it
void void
electroniccat i will make gamers move to linux one day dont worry
left swift
dap is just cranky cuz I rejected him
void void
i am on linux rn and im very happy
golden gust
I mean, apples OS is by far better rated in terms of UI and UX
that's not running linux
native wolf
ecat is right, whatever the hell you do, users simply don't care
void void
that's not running linux
yes its not running linux, but its still based on unix
golden gust
I mean
plucky sparrow
macOS is literally just so nice to use
golden gust
that's literally not even relevant, however
native wolf
they see their PCs as magic boxes that display stuff and that's it
golden gust
the UI is the UI
plucky sparrow
it’s intuitive and really polished
left swift
golden gust
everything android did, windows phone could do
there are some areas where windows phone did stuff years before android was around
plucky sparrow
App settings? Click the app name in the menu bar and then click on Preferences
native wolf
Windows Phone was ahead of it's time
plucky sparrow
The global menu bar is a godsend
void void
I mean, apples OS is by far better rated in terms of UI and UX
we dont like apple
golden gust
UI design is entirely around the people designing stuff, literally nothing to do with the underlying kernel
void void
apple is money steal
plucky sparrow
yea no
golden gust
Like, please, lets not be intellectual morons here
native wolf
WP had many features Android and iOS copied years later
left swift
oranges are better
worn ember
Like, please, lets not be intellectual morons here
That ship sailed long ago
native wolf
like quick reply for example
void void
unfortunately for me I am studying electronics and I'm supposed to know about how computers work (on hardware level, it's not required to know softwarewise but it's an added bonus to impress teachers which are just the average computer users)
surreal adder
anyone have authme (bukkit) for beta 1.7.3? no it is not for piracy reasons, it is due to online mode not working on beta 1.7.3
golden gust
apple is a "premium" brand, and when you compare like for like across various models, etc, apples really not too bad in terms of pricing
wide chasm
Unfortunately for us, the end user is not studying electronics
rare python
anyone have authme (bukkit) for beta 1.7.3? no it is not for piracy reasons, it ...
Old versions are not supported.
golden gust
most people try to compare plastic fantastic vs unibody, and, like, plz
rare python
Also Beta 1.7.3, what?
surreal adder
Old versions are not supported.
yes i know and that is why i did not go to the dedicated paper channels
void void
Also Beta 1.7.3, what?
probably for some pack.png world
surreal adder
Also Beta 1.7.3, what?
yeah
surreal adder
no just for nostalgia and the old generation :)
left swift
how to tell if rash is infected
golden gust
as for how far back they care to go, 🤷♂️
surreal adder
true
golden gust
infected is generally wet
void void
@surreal adder authme's been around since 2013, 2013 was 1.7 (not beta) era
surreal adder
i just can not find the original authme page
void void
so im pretty sure no authme jars for beta 1.7.3 exist
worn ember
Unfortunately for us, the end user is not studying electronics
more like thank god, fuck electronics that shit too hard
surreal adder
<@!701060813506478090> authme's been around since 2013, 2013 was 1.7 (not beta) ...
hmm
native wolf
I've played on a Beta 1.7.3 server that had AuthMe like last year or something
surreal adder
i am not sure
surreal adder
i have used authme on beta before i think...
void void
more like thank god, fuck electronics that shit too hard
everything in your computer is based on transistors and microchips, my specialization 🙂
left swift
end users are the problem, what happened to all the start users??
void void
I've played on a Beta 1.7.3 server that had AuthMe like last year or something
fairly sure its a custom fork of authme
plucky sparrow
Like it or not apple is quite a great company, and even though they have some questionable products (iPhone SE 3, Studio Display), many of their devices are the best out there
surreal adder
plucky sparrow
The new MacBook Pros are quite great as well
void void
Like it or not apple is quite a great company, and even though they have some qu...
SE 3 has no difference than SE 2, except 5G support. that's it
surreal adder
it does exist
worn ember
everything in your computer is based on transistors and microchips, my specializ...
yeah and the world is powered by morons, my specialization 🙂
plucky sparrow
That’s why I said it was a questionable product
golden gust
god
native wolf
my only problem with Apple is some anti-consumer stuff they do and how they locked down iOS
golden gust
I just remembered of some YT video that some bros like, reviewed
plucky sparrow
I’ve never had an issue with iOS being locked down
surreal adder
i actually think the latest version of authme on bukkit will work but i am not sure
void void
my only problem with Apple is overpricing
plucky sparrow
There’s always altstore if you need something that is not in the App Store
golden gust
it was one of those show boaty things, and they did like an IQ test, of note there was a marine and some like, pharmacy gal there
surreal adder
my only problem with Apple is some anti-consumer stuff they do and how they lock...
well apple is just about the out of box experience and there's not really any freedom like that
plucky sparrow
Their products are quite fair priced for what you’re getting imo
surreal adder
There’s always altstore if you need something that is not in the App Store
yes but you can not tweak iOS like jailbreaking can
or play minecraft java lol
golden gust
the pharmacy gal at one point was basically show boating, helped with the vaccine, PHD, pharma gal, etc, etc, like, all show boaty, and they all rated marine bro last place, but, when they did the test, pharma gal was like, last place and marine bro was like 3/6 or something
native wolf
There’s always altstore if you need something that is not in the App Store
I once made a patch for my fork, built it and uploaded it to my server all from my Android phone (emergency situation lol). Last time I checked, you don't have that much freedom on iOS
plucky sparrow
That’s one really edge case
void void
Their products are quite fair priced for what you’re getting imo
2500 leva for the iPhone 13. come on bro. 2500 leva for a phone. for 2500 leva I could get a BMW e46 with M packet year 1994 which is maintained pretty well
golden gust
I mean, in the scheme of things, apple ain't overpriced
like, theres been many people who've actually done the maths and debunked that shit
when you compare like for like, apple often charges more but by nowhere near as much as you're acting
stuck lynx
Well, I develop apps, and thete is a reason I don't port then to iOS
plucky sparrow
2500 leva for the iPhone 13. come on bro. 2500 leva for a phone. for 2500 leva I...
Yeah you’re getting a premium phone, and probably the best out there in many aspects. Samsung’s pricing is the same if not higher
surreal adder
apple is fine, it just works for consumers but for my next phone, i am planning to get a pixel instead and flashing something like lineage os on it. i would have to give up my apple watch though, i am stuck in the 'eco-system' lol
plucky sparrow
Why would you flash lineage on it
stuck lynx
plucky sparrow
Literally ruining the fun of pixel phones
wide chasm
I generally don't go for Apple, because I generally don't need the newest of the newest, I'd rather have something more in the middle.
surreal adder
Why would you flash lineage on it
privacy, open source, etc
wide chasm
69.3 dollars for a price of 0.99? Where can I sign up? /s
plucky sparrow
That’s just ruining pixel phones
golden gust
many of the other app platforms charge too
void void
Yeah you’re getting a premium phone, and probably the best out there in many asp...
its not really premium, my iPhone SE 1 I dropped it once the whole screen shattered (with screen protector) and had to pay 70 leva for a new screen (not an apple service)
surreal adder
That’s just ruining pixel phones
how?
plucky sparrow
Because the magic of the pixel phones is the pixel experience os
golden gust
and, basically, welcome to the joys of the market
plucky sparrow
You may as well get a OnePlus phone and flash lineage
surreal adder
Because the magic of the pixel phones is the pixel experience os
idc about that, idk what would be so fun about it really
golden gust
that $100 is kinda bleh, but, there is much ROI potential there
plucky sparrow
its not really premium, my iPhone SE 1 I dropped it once the whole screen shatte...
iPhone SE 1? The one with the same specs as the 6s?
surreal adder
i just want a phone with an open sourced operating system and which works without spying on me or something
void void
iPhone SE 1? The one with the same specs as the 6s?
yep. I don't have money for a new phone im still going with iPhone SE 1
Bulgaria moment
plucky sparrow
The only reason I’ve been considering pixel phones is the pixel experience
golden gust
general feeling I've heard is that iOS users are more likely to pay for stuff, and so it's often a better place, outside of the initial investment
native wolf
I usually buy cheaper phones (older flagships) and flash Lineage on them when the OEM abandons them
plucky sparrow
I have the 11 Pro and it’s perfect without a crack
golden gust
android is annoying, tbqh
plucky sparrow
In fact, I’m quite sure that iPhones are actually better than Samsung phones regarding durability
golden gust
Like, unless you're on a contract, the lifecycle of android devices kinda blows ass
native wolf
that's true
surreal adder
i like freedom and iOS does not really give me much, except from jailbreaking which requires to be on an older version
native wolf
Android OEMs usually don't care about updates
void void
@plucky sparrow recently the button on the top for turning it on stopped working this week, the home button's not been working for like 6 months now, the touch id stopped working since 2 months, the battery's at 76% but the phone's still working and carries me throughout the day (with 1-2 recharges, always carrying a charger)
native wolf
some have gotten better over the years tho
plucky sparrow
I’m yet to find anyone who is genuinely using a jailbroken phone and what for
golden gust
I had an iPhone once and did jailbreak it, and, at the time it was k, then they got to the point where you needed to be tethered and it kinda sucked but worked
surreal adder
Android OEMs usually don't care about updates
yes and lineage os kinda extends that
plucky sparrow
<@!262644781241466880> recently the button on the top for turning it on stopped ...
We’re talking about a really old phone, it’s not surprising
golden gust
I did go back to android after that as I just wanted to play more, etc
plucky sparrow
The phone has been discontinued for quite a long time already
golden gust
But, I mean, I got older, theming and shit, screwing around with fonts, etc, it got old
void void
The phone has been discontinued for quite a long time already
ehm it's not been discontinued. i have the latest iOS 15
wdym
native wolf
I love Lineage, I used an LG G2 all the way up to 2020 when it died. Lineage made it like brand new
golden gust
I just want a device which works now, maybe plays the odd game here and there when am stuck waiting somewhere, etc
plucky sparrow
Discontinued as that they don’t make them anymore
iOS 15 is very likely the last update you’re getting
surreal adder
I’m yet to find anyone who is genuinely using a jailbroken phone and what for
customisability, playing java on phone, general QoL tweaks, etc...
plucky sparrow
I’ve had a jailbroken phone and it wasn’t that great
golden gust
Like, it's the same story for me with linux, when I was younger, I could blow away time, if an update fucked up, I could spend a day reinstalling the OS with 0 detriment towards my time, etc
Now, my time has a value, and, the price of linux just ain't worth it anymore
plucky sparrow
No one I know has a jailbroken iPhone because it’s quite useless
void void
im probably gonna switch to iPhone SE 2 or iPhone SE 3 this year if my mobile carrier gives me an offer
my contract is ending this summer
golden gust
and, now, the price of android is getting to be the same story as well
surreal adder
I’ve had a jailbroken phone and it wasn’t that great
it is great, i only updated and lost my jailbreak due to apps with un-bypassable jailbreak detection
at least for me it is great
plucky sparrow
Yeah the only use for it I had was like, nothing?
golden gust
jailbreaking was kinda fun, e.g. being able to load up emulators, etc; But, I kinda started getting too busy and kinda stopped having the care to deal with it
surreal adder
jailbreaking was kinda fun, e.g. being able to load up emulators, etc; But, I ki...
it's fine once u get finish the process
golden gust
I've been wanting to switch my phone over to LOS for a little while now, but, then I gotta fuck around, etc, etc
native wolf
well the only thing you gotta mess with is the bootloader and custom recovery, once you actually install LOS, it's really easy to maintain, you get regular OTA updates that install painlessly
surreal adder
very cool
native wolf
if your device is officially supported tho
surreal adder
if your device is officially supported tho
pixel devices are always supported lol
native wolf
during my time using the LG G2 with LOS, I never had an OTA update mess something up
plucky sparrow
I used to want an LG G2 so badly back in the days
void void
he3als is a chick with a flower on its head
surreal adder
he3als is a chick with a flower on its head
native wolf
I used to want an LG G2 so badly back in the days
that phone was like 10/10 back in the day
plucky sparrow
absolutely
native wolf
lasted literally 6 years
plucky sparrow
it was like one of the best recommended by reviewers
void void
denery why you stalk chat?
golden gust
I mean, the thing before LOS is all the stuff I gotta do before I can shove LOS on there
i.e. sorting out my 2FA situation
plucky sparrow
I wish I had it tbh, it seemed like an amazing phone
I love how LG G phones had the volume and power on buttons on the back
void void
nokia 3310
golden gust
LG, god
plucky sparrow
Ah the latter G phones went downhill
void void
LG phones went downhill
wet storm
denery why you stalk chat?
idk...
void void
nokia 3310 only went up
golden gust
It was always so weird AF because LG would often like, offer some pretty darn sweet ass quirk
only to hamper it with a SOC over a year old
for a price not all too much cheaper than many other flagships at the time
plucky sparrow
Huawei nowadays:
native wolf
quirks and experiments were basically what made LG phones charming for me
plucky sparrow
Sadly yes
void void
so we went from OSes to phones ; nice
plucky sparrow
HTC Sense was very nice
native wolf
I had a HTC Desire HD before my G2, it was also a very nice phone
void void
HTC was also a fun one
weren't HTCs somewhat affiliated with sony? weren't they brand of sony or some kind? or i am mistaken?
native wolf
HTC Sense was very nice
best OEM skin to this day
native wolf
idk if it's nostalgia but it just ain't the same anymore lol
brave mountain
what ssd dou you recommend me? pci 4 500Gb
plucky sparrow
idk if it's nostalgia but it just ain't the same anymore lol
Oh I’d still love to use it even now
brave mountain
what ssd dou you recommend me? pci 4 500Gb
my laptop is a ThinkPad e14 g2 I want another ssd for dualboot windows 11 - arch
void void
@void void I also set a new pfp
there my nick now describes my pfp
i just bought chips with sweet chili but they aren't hot enough
reeee @vernal moth why force push
wet storm
<@456226577798135808> I also set a new pfp
my pfp has been like this since my discord account was created. It's perfect. I don't need anything else.
brave mountain
reeee <@!134340832093405184> why force push
don't unnecessary ping staff
void void
well i have this account for not so long
something like 2, 3 years???
but i didn't (and don't) use it too much
not used to discord, more like emails and stuff
wet storm
What do you think about LiteLoader and Mumfrey? I noticed that his work influenced many things in minecraft development, I didn't know he is the author of mixins...
void void
im not into the modded community that much so i can't say much
can only say Lax педерас (or "pederas" transcribed into english alphabet, meaning is either "asshole" or "gay", more used for "asshole")
vernal moth
reeee <@!134340832093405184> why force push
cause I can
wet storm
can only say Lax педерас (or "pederas" transcribed into english alphabet, meanin...
did you mean Lex?
void void
yes
vernal moth
whats wrong with lex?
void void
this dude to be more specific https://github.com/LexManos
wet storm
Even I have some funny story with him...
void void
whats wrong with lex?
"guys please keep sending me donations so new versions of forge come faster"
vernal moth
guy literally does forge full time iirc
so if he doesn't get enough donations, he will literally starve
so asking for donations seems fair, don't you think?
void void
im fairly sure he does have a backup work if he's going forge full time
wet storm
I actually don't think he is so bad as fabric community describe him
void void
you can't live solely on donations
except there is someone generous that pays all your expenses
void void
your grandpa's cow
vestal jasper
your grandpa's cow
I'm not sure you know how almond milk works
You have to milk an almond not a cow
void void
oh wait almond
i missed that part
still, your grandpa's cow milk is the best milk you can have
vestal jasper
Any alternatives?
golden gust
vestal jasper
Does my grandmas cow work or does it have to be grandpa
void void
yes your grandmas also works
vestal jasper
Bet
golden gust
actually, that just reminded me of like, american pie, I think it was?
where they played russian roulette
or maybe it was jackass
ashen cliff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLF725CX4mM
Google PLEASE: https://posili.me/i/FYYfrpti-2022-03-24_21-04-35.png
glass crag
mine doing that too
brave mountain
the 1.19 updates so far are de big deal?
worthy geode
no performance improvements (yet), so no
topaz mortar
It runs bad like many snapshots in early stages.
vernal moth
no performance improvements (yet), so no <:kekw:674093681963302933>
How can you tell that? Did you look at the code?
worthy geode
well, I assumed that they would mention it in the patch notes if its somewhat significant, as they have done so in the past
raven basin
Have fun.
<https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/categories/premium.20/?order=downl...
🤡 💀
ashen cliff
Thank you for the tag.
worn ember
noice
quick obsidian
Have fun.
<https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/categories/premium.20/?order=downl...
hey im on there
brave mountain
I don't recommend premium, closed source plugins
left swift
I do
brave mountain
some exceptions
native wolf
Auxilor's plugins are OSS tho
native wolf
hey im on there
you made a crate plugin :O, guess I won't be making a custom one then
quick obsidian
I don't recommend premium, closed source plugins
that's fine im open source
void void
Anyone know the discord to the Minecraft lounges discord?
void void
Auxilor's plugins are OSS tho
foss > oss
native wolf
well I mean
I agree
but you can just compile the plugins and use them
for free
but, I would recommend supporting the dev
void void
and u can repair them for free
native wolf
wdym by "repair"?
wet storm
foss > oss
That's why I use mpl 2.0 in my software...
wise lion
foggy veldt
How big was it before? 13”?
magic river
11" and 13" but only 13" now
left swift
15" that's insane! so big!
worn ember
you get used to it
green edge
15" that's insane! so big!
Well, their M series processors warranted them expanding AIR to also serve the more expensive end
left swift
that's gonna be so hard to fit inside
worn ember
that's gonna be so hard to fit inside
not for your mom
left swift
mods
hard marsh
Would anyone like to play a game?
Reply to this comment to your guess at what the issue is.
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lilac moon
lilac moon
it's dd/mm/yyyyyyyyyyyy
so yes the number does mean something, but just because that's how it works
warm anchor
ok nerd
lilac moon
so in short don't use 32 bit systems in 2038!
warm anchor
vestal jasper
Oh I see
brave mountain
at that time there would be 128 bit
check this fact
IPv6 supports 340 282 366 920 938 463 463 463 374 607 431 768 211 456 (2128 or 340 sextillion addresses), about 6.7 × 1017 (670 thousand trillion) addresses per square millimeter of the Earth's surface.
magic river
Users get a /64 though (and some get a /48) so you only have 48-64 bits to work with
lilac moon
we would probably have a lot more than 128 bit by then
or we would have some quantum thing that has no bits
lilac moon
Users get a /64 though (and some get a /48) so you only have 48-64 bits to work ...
hehe i haev a /56
i used to do subnets but now i dont
lilac moon
i hate how unifi has such terriblew support for ipv6
i wanna upgrade to like pfsense or whatever sometime in the future
something open source
other than the APs though because unifi aps are pretty good
brave mountain
install openwrt 
lilac moon
i am not a napple fan
lilac moon
install openwrt <:think_smart:674693949201580066>
idk the difference between all this stuff
ill have to look at it at some time
brave mountain
is anyone rich here?
raven basin
install openwrt <:think_smart:674693949201580066>
cant you illegally tujrn up the frequency on it so that you can get internet across the street
I heard of something like that and they fried their router after a couple weeks
brave mountain
cant you illegally tujrn up the frequency on it so that you can get internet acr...
hopefully, because my internet is 3mbps, but no, I have better internet that my neighbors
raven basin
hopefully, because my internet is 3mbps, but no, I have better internet that my ...
You cant effect max bandwidth I think you can but you will stop receiving internet from ur isp
also what country you from
yeah turning up frequency would boost how far you can use the internet
brave mountain
You cant effect max bandwidth I think you can but you will stop receiving intern...
how
brave mountain
also what country you from
is not exactly the country is the neighborhood
raven basin
?
lilac moon
yeah turning up frequency would boost how far you can use the internet
wouldnt it do the opposite because high frequency is more easily blocked by walls and obstacles
raven basin
wouldnt it do the opposite because high frequency is more easily blocked by wall...
Idk how it works really I think like the cpu frequency
or something idk
lilac moon
2.4GHz is longer range than 5GHz
lilac moon
Idk how it works really I think like the cpu frequency
idk if that would affect anything though
raven basin
Its something
lilac moon
buying a faster computer wont get you faster internet will it
only if it's being overwhelmed
raven basin
different channe
channel
and im pretty sure using a different one signifigantly increases range
but effects with other more important channels
idk how it works exactly
lilac moon
and im pretty sure using a different one signifigantly increases range
it's not big enough to make a difference i dont think
magic river
lower frequency travels further but has a lower transmission rate
lilac moon
^
raven basin
thats not what I mean
magic river
It's waves, lower frequency the waves are more spread out so it takes longer to read N of them
lilac moon
it could increase signal quality if youre switching from a congested channel to an empty one
which in a way equals more speed because less failures and retries
magic river
Those are 5GHz wifi channels?
lilac moon
some of those are 2.4 GHz
but yeah
but the higher you go, the lower range but faster rate
magic river
Pretty sure 2.4GHz channel 7 is legal in the US so I don't think so...
magic river
Plus it says 4.9-5.825 on the top 😛
lilac moon
close enough