I just say "Wasserhahn" 
#general
topaz mortar
worn crest
^
teal crane
Ended up cloning https://github.com/InventivetalentDev/minecraft-assets/tree/1.18.2 so I can just browse with my file manager
Interesting how this even exists, I assumed there would be a huge copyright issue
vernal moth
where there is no plaintiff theres no judge 🤷♀️
left swift
wet storm
I just say "Wasserhahn" <:kekwhyper:674093681904713729>
Okay, now say "spigot" in enchantment table language
ashen cliff
Now start moving.
trim steeple
flying around at flyspeed 2 brings it up to 7mspt
still sorrel
ashen cliff
Why downvote?
lilac moon
thats funny
wet storm
Prob a troll...
glass crag
its giving yahoo answers
potent wedge
who said they wanted to buy 5$ discord bot maker for simple responses???
void void
hewwo
potent wedge
hi
waxen panther
papermc general moment
void void
How do I disable this UseItemOnPacket
I am trying out a mod on my personal server and I am aware that this is for protection against too many packets but I don't care about them and it is breaking my mod.
yo i cant find paper 1.18.1
i only see 1.18.2
scroll down and click more on the downloads page until you end up at 1.18.1
where
left swift
there
crystal lilyBOT
left swift
scroll down and click more on the downloads page until you end up at 1.18.1
idk where
void void
@void void
spiral robin
thank you cammo
foggy silo
https://i.imgur.com/NCc2bCD.png
Instructions unclear, downloaded from free Dropbox link instead
rancid void
mmh yes, worst connection ever
lament patio
It was superseded by view-distance in 1.18
crystal lilyBOT
lament patio
The equivalent would be simulation distance 3 and view distance 10
warm anchor
Yes
If you have no need for per-world Config, the value in spigot.yml can be leave as default
Otherwise the value in spigot.yml will overwrite what you have in server.properties
magic river
Wow nvidia's new server GPU can do 1 petaflop FP16
...at 700W TDP
Whoops was reading the wrong row, FP16 is still impressive though
stuck lynx
What is <@&289618509862797313> supposed to be?
cunning raft
people who've lost their tables
foggy silo
(Please help them find them)
foggy silo
🤯
brave mountain
and who is wort of the notable
spare venture
bffs of paper
twin lagoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXYUNrgqWUU this looks incredibly real
okay at first glance atleast because the second time watching it i can spot some weird things but still holy shit
brave mountain
unity, is that the game engine
brave mountain
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Ubuntu_Unity_20.04_LTS_defau...
no way did you install unity in 20.04?
lilac moon
no i just looked up an image from wikipedia about "ubuntu unity" which is supopsed to bring unity to modern ubuntu versions
brave mountain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXYUNrgqWUU this looks incredibly real
that was the engine of Brick-Force game. Oh my childhood
lilac moon
brave mountain
so someone is keeping it up
brave mountain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXYUNrgqWUU this looks incredibly real
can compete with unreal
lilac moon
how many thousands of dollars will it cost to get a gpu powerful enough for that though
brave mountain
2 Quadro RTX 8000 in SLI
lilac moon
that sounds expensive
brave mountain
11k + shipping to be exact
void void
man aikar.co is down, and I wanna view this article:
https://aikar.co/2015/10/08/spigot-tick-limiter-dont-use-max-tick-time/
warm anchor
tidal dawn
Does anyone know of a shader pack for 1.18.1 that ONLY makes particles glow, I don’t want any shader effects or anything just glowing particles
zealous snow
yo does anyone know if paper mc is compatible with console players
buoyant crane
yo does anyone know if paper mc is compatible with console players
you have to use a plugin/software called geyser
zealous snow
you have to use a plugin/software called geyser
ah ic thanks
is it aviable on aternos?
wet storm
Hell no, don't use aternos
zealous snow
Hell no, don't use aternos
im not in the situation rn to buy a server
ah thanks
could i get the download link
if possiible
im on mobile
oh tysm
buoyant crane
really livin up to your name
zealous snow
really livin up to your name
yes LMAO
wait is the download only for spefic region because when i go to the download site its says
this
okok
brisk perch
is there any alternative of votifier?
worn crest
is there any alternative of votifier?
Nuvotifier
brisk perch
that plugin is inactive at the moment
buoyant crane
it works
brisk perch
I have had issues with setting it up using velocity and vote forwarding..
buoyant crane
worn crest
Or votifier plus
viral hornet
ok
worn crest
You make me always happy
wet storm
What do you think about usage of off-heap memory in java? And low-level things in general? (those modern incubator APIs, jdk.internal.misc.Unsafe) I am scared how it became popular in fabric modding...
golden gust
I mean, part of the reasons are often the off-heap buffers, etc
Like, especially if you're doing lots of copying data around, it's much more efficient
and, well, it's not always ideal, but, when you have 50ms for everything to do its thing, like, CPU cycles start to count in some areas
wet storm
I think people without knowledge of JMM and VarHandle exotic accesses (opaque, release / acquire) shouldn't touch these low level APIs. Yeah, JMM is about concurrency and orders of program execution, but it all is about performance, and using public APIs such as VarHandles for performance in concurrency is less dirty than using private APIs such as Vector API for performance in memory alloc, this fact scares me...
golden gust
I mean, people just see "faster" and push for it
wet storm
We lost this world 😔
next frost
The Vector API isn’t private
golden gust
more, was hidden behind a flag, is I think the thing was
next frost
Yeah it’s still incubator, but that also means it is meant to be used to gather feedback
next frost
True
golden gust
commentry here is specific to live code running in production in environments which you don't have access to and often without real benchmarking, etc, to see if the "risks" are worth it
next frost
That’s the downside of such stuff, you have a lot of work that you might just need to throw away afterwards 
wet storm
Oh, yeah, I mismatched terms, Vecor API isn't private like new Unsafe, but it is still accessible behind key
golden gust
That's why you charge by the hour
void void
sun.misc.Unsafe 👀
wet storm
`sun.misc.Unsafe` 👀
jdk.internal.misc.Unsafe*
void void
I used it's allocateInstance method for deserialization purposes
didn't want to deal with constructors
golden gust
See, I avoided the "reinventing everything from scratch" stage
I've offered advice to many people going through that stage, ranging from "don't" to pointing them towards the docs they need to see
always weird seeing people going through that stage cos it's kinda nice to get like, familiar with the wider SDK, but, boy to people get their wellies in the "mud" and get flustered over some of that shit
void void
i reinvented the wheel because
a) it wasn't for a minecraft project
b) no one wanted gson/jackson/whatever
wet storm
I came to conclusion that the most of performance problems are solving with simple refactoring, which isn't possible in case of minecraft if you aren't a mojang employee. (Imagine supporting really big refactor patches through every upstream update...) Yeah, performance problems which are solvable only through hacks exist, but they appear only when you did previous "steps" of performance, and they are the actual reason of creation all of these new APIs, because hacks are problems of existing APIs which should be fixed...
golden gust
I mean, there are some cases where you can do much fancy maths to speed up stuff
kevin had a patch which drastically improved the map API in bukkit by using the new vectorisation API in java
There are, ofc, many deeper issues in the server, and much stuff really just needs a good refactor from mojang
wet storm
I also came to conclusion that my grammar is really bad
next frost
there are different kinds of optimizations on different levels and each of them have their pros and cons
only focusing on one of them doesn't get you far most of the time
golden gust
biggest performance improvement is often through refactoring
Like, the number of times that bad performance of something is really just down to shoddy design is, amazing
wet storm
there are different kinds of optimizations on different levels and each of them ...
This is what I also was trying to say in my previous message...
golden gust
or, where the design means that the best thing you can do for performance is to just toss a match on it
wet storm
My favourite Java conferences speaker is Aleksey Shipilev, he is performance engineer at RedHat, (before RedHat he worked at Oracle) he optimizes redhat JVM, he has awesome talks about performance. (but most of them in russian) I learned many performance things from his talks and later dug into them by myself...
void void
kevin had a patch which drastically improved the map API in bukkit by using the ...
if anyone's able to find a way of optimizing this shit https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/bukkit/browse/src/main/java/org/bukkit/map/MapPalette.java#25 it would be great
It's so bad on the TPS when you try to render images such as pack.png
void void
it doesn't but it is
vernal moth
do you have a profile?
golden gust
that's what he optimised, basically
void void
I currently don't but when I was testing stuff with rendering images on maps shit was going kaboom
vernal moth
so you just guessed that method is the cause? lol
void void
iirc at one point i had triggered watchdog
vernal moth
or how can you tell without a profiler?
golden gust
issue is generally that it's a bunch of maths which is like, fun joyous area in a tight loop
quasi valley
void void
issue is generally that it's a bunch of maths which is like, fun joyous area in ...
exactly
void void
so you just guessed that method is the cause? lol
no i had a profile but i lost it in time
vernal moth
see, he doesn't optimize that method but the loop
golden gust
well, he yanks out that method into the loop
void void
matchColor calls that method
golden gust
it's wider than just that method, ofc
void void
pls port this to paper thx ❤️
vernal moth
vector api is still incubator, idk how that works
its not like preview where it requires a startup param, right?
void void
but also people only using 2 spaces 🤢
i use 2 spaces. gjf
golden gust
requires a flag
glass crag
Tabs are more accessible than spaces
quasi valley
if you're using notepad maybe
void void
tabs use less storage and memory
quasi valley
tabs saved my marriage
void void
I'm fairly sure people who use tabs are going 4 steps at a time when going upstairs/downstairs
golden gust
BE A MAN
PAWN THAT BAE
jokes on you
I used to walk up the stairs 3 steps at a time
golden gust
My issue is that I was fat
and then got fat
Doesn't help that I inherited my grandfathers knees
void void
wanna know who else's fat
golden gust
ur mama?
void void
I don't
I took a picture of ur mama back in december 2020 and it's still printing
runs
i couldnt take one
she didnt fit in the frame at all
void void
congrats
golden gust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZYa_KfLTtM (for none brits)
void void
im antarctic
im from antarctica
what is this
I'm from Bulgaria: where a ukrainian gets more money than a bulgarian
also does the core team make money
im curious
Bro
my mama fell so bad
her screams were so loud I thought kapitan petko voivoda was on
golden gust
as a project we only 'recently' started collecting cash to fund the infra we have, it's mostly been a free time effort
vernal moth
we don't make money as in, we get to spend that on rent or food
only a few private donations
void void
im fairly sure you got more donations for the 6 months (if im not wrong) you have a opencollective than spigot in 9 years
golden gust
doubt it
void void
yet md_5's being an ass
I saw some really cool PRs on BungeeCord, for example the resource pack api, unfortunately he replied once or twice and that was it
golden gust
Issue these days is time, at least for me merging a paper pr is a 20 minute a go thing
void void
or this one: https://github.com/SpigotMC/BungeeCord/pull/3240
golden gust
And waterfall am just done with
vernal moth
people need to realize that project management is fucking hard, lol
void void
its not "that" hard its just that md_5 does not open up to more people like you guys did
he is doing all development alone which is the biggest mistake
vernal moth
no, its hard
golden gust
I mean, even with our team size were still struggling
MDS walled up nature ofc doesn't help on their side
void void
i dont understand why did you do that
looking at the code Util#exception doesn't expose much ; some lines, the exception message
can often contain
internal information during these kicks which server owners are
generally not happy with sharing, i.e. potential IP addresses, etc
#waterfall-help message
oh
perhaps we can replace these in the message with a pattern???
golden gust
PRs welcome, basically
vernal moth
perhabs we can just let waterfall die
golden gust
It was somewhat of a security issue, some care there is needed to basically fix that
but, do we /really/ need to send internal exceptions to the client?
void void
PRs welcome, basically
I don't have much time for PRs but I can try creating a pattern
vernal moth
the pattern takes a minute, lol
warm anchor
perhabs we can just let waterfall die
Let’s kill waterfall when hangar goes live!!
vernal moth
the PR is what takes time
vernal moth
Let’s kill waterfall when hangar goes live!!
sure!
void void
Let’s kill waterfall when hangar goes live!!
so... never?
golden gust
Issue is working out what exceptions come down that path
void void
runs
warm anchor
Noah demoted to regular paperMC member 
golden gust
what do we really need to be sent to the bloody client
void void
usages show that the changed method gets called only for connection refused exceptions
idk about Util#exception though
quasi valley
so... never?
professional Hangar developer @cedar spade is helping mini bring it forward
golden gust
I mean, if it's just connection refused, then, idk why that needs to be sent to the client at all
void void
iirc this behavior was changed by a pr to include "more information" on connection refused
void void
wait a sec ima find that commit
void void
😠
warm anchor
Let’s keep general clean of bung*ee artifacts
vernal moth
like it or not, waterfall is legacy, velocity its replacement
void void
unfortunately until velocity doesn't have the plugins bungee has it won't be a full replacement
vernal moth
it has enough plugins
void void
ive been recently getting more and more private requests for porting bungee plugins to velocity so this is a good sign people are moving
warm anchor
Oh no worries. As soon as Waterfall is officially dead, there will be more 😉 same as all legacy thing work.
void void
Just downgrade log4j in a waterfall update so people move to velocity stop using it 
golden gust
theres people still using travertine
void void
void void
but someone changed it to Util.exception ???
golden gust
they over-exposed info
viral hornet
Since she is expert on oven
yes very exciting
as long as mini doesn't butcher the design :p
golden gust
bungee and by extention is basically just a nightmare which has got be burned out and generally shy of wanting to waste time on it
Because they dropped some level of info from the arlier commit
vernal moth
thankfully I didn't touch the design yet
golden gust
latter commit basically ends up adding back on more
vernal moth
just made components out of the stuff AGI did and reused that
md did design stuff so blame him if it looks bad 😄
void void
AGI as hangar team member 
warm anchor
Mini I want to let you know that as long as hangar doesn’t look worse than essentialsx site, it’s fine
vernal moth
I dont know no 3rd one
we got a good one, and then the one that works on essentials
runs
warm anchor
golden gust
relative scales and all, you know
I mean, I was just finishing making a cup of tea, and it hit my brain box
just to think, for everybody you kinda despise or cba to deal with
there is somebody who is like, 2-3x worse
warm anchor
We love you cat. Just wanna let you know 
golden gust
What you tryna say? 
viral hornet
We love you cat. Just wanna let you know <:Pepelove:524460614945341450>
Hmmm
warm anchor
void void
can I be Spottedleaf's Dad ?
warm anchor
wet storm
or how can you tell without a profiler?
Hmmmm... What do you think about implementing JMH to paperweight core to do microbenchmarks for paper? Did you think about this before? (Or I am blind and it is already implemented somewhere lol)
golden gust
micro's are generally done on a case by case basis externally
they're generally useless for actual reliable testing, etc
wet storm
Okay, good to know
cedar spade
professional Hangar developer <@!145878422566993920> is helping mini bring it fo...
don't forget professional Hangar developer @quasi valley
limber knotBOT
tell that to my meeting 👀
vernal moth
I just didn't go to this meeting
limber knotBOT
vernal moth
If I would have gone I would have just caused trouble, so better for everyone involved if I don't show up
Me in a bad mood is really toxic, lol
golden gust
Oh, so we're together in death days
marble lark
The horrors of this community is that we have like, 3 mds?
?
marble lark
that looks really relaxing ngl
golden gust
dare you to go poke him
marble lark
if only i could do that and yeet all responsibilities too
marble lark
dare you to go poke him
brb buying a ticket to Germany
golden gust
my heads killing me
ashen cliff
Same.
golden gust
So, I kinda wanna go for a walk
But, if I do that, I wanna update my machine cos the "you should update" is annoying me
marble lark
yikes
golden gust
but then I gotta reboot, and that means that I gotta either close my browser or watch all the tabs I have queued up
marble lark
try massaging around the neck and temples
golden gust
I'm not sure I'd go that far to insult md5
left swift
viral hornet
I'm not sure I'd go that far to insult md5
thoughts @cedar spade
left swift
thoughts <@!145878422566993920>
thoughts @plucky sparrow
OMG BEST DAPPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAP!!!!!!
left swift
what's wrong with that dog
cedar spade
I'm not sure I'd go that far to insult md5
I would
vernal moth
Ok, enough sun, time to find some ice cream and work on hangar
plucky sparrow
OMG BEST DAPPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAP!!!!!!
stop it
this is harassment
I’m calling the police
left swift
call them if you can I cut the phone lines
wet storm
what's wrong with that dog
What da dog doin
ashen cliff
The fairest comparison ever seen:
vernal moth
you know you write vue3 when you have more imports than actual code
thankfully IJ hides all of that
pastel reef
How would Sodium influence the performance of a PineTab?
pastel reef
This should be in <#585654580113702923>.
That was kind of brutal not gonna lie
magic river
If you were making an app that had to download things from S3 and sometimes those calls took 3x longer than average or timed out would you throw $$$$ at adding a CDN in front of the S3 bucket the downloads come from or assume the client is having network issues and just increase timeouts and/or add retry logic?
Really, if you're making network calls and don't have retry logic I think you've already failed
ashen cliff
Solve the underlying issue first.
magic river
The underlying issue is this is an iPad at a customer location 😛
We don't control the device, the AP it's talking to, or the internet connection
I don't think throwing a CDN at is is going to make their wifi less crap
ashen cliff
That is true.
magic river
Rather than adding some retry logic my coworker has dragged in a whole different department for some reason (I guess because they run our AD and such on Azure?)
But that has nothing to do with this so....
Fun times
ashen cliff
Condolences.
little frost
i like those imports, don't have to deal with relative paths
magic river
That's an esbuild thing, isn't it?
I think parcel does that too
Presumably because they both use esbuild
magic river
IntelliJ or WebStorm or PyCharm or whatever, they're all the same thing 😛
real saddle
magic river
No idea and not enough context to Google it for you
vernal moth
i like those imports, don't have to deal with relative paths
oh yeah, I love import aliases like that, I just alias ~ to my src dir
in vite:
resolve: {
alias: {
"~/": `${path.resolve(__dirname, "src")}/`,
},
},
and ye, its just intellij
old vs new, lol
I guess comparing in dark mode is more fair https://i.imgur.com/DVm1HpQ.png
oh shit I didn't implement the tag yet
brave mountain
Is coming hangar, be aware!!
vernal moth
that was the last admin page now \o/
hangar go brrrrrr
at least an hour ever day since the 12th, even tho I had fever on the 18th, lol
3 hrs 15 min on average, if only this was paid like half a day job, lol
golden gust
best I can offer you is a stick of used chuddy
unkempt drift
We should add a thing where anytime a pokimame emote is posted, there’s a 1/10000 chance that user is banned.
How long until nomanasendhelp gets unlucky?
cunning raft
within the day
lilac moon
hexed dragon
Twitter
worn ember
Feature creep caught up 
vernal moth
Not really, they just don't like dum deadlines
Why push out something that they know isn't done yet, testing on that would be worthless
topaz mortar
I like that they try to not repeat the 1.14 release.
void void
so when you want to upload a plugin to hangar it will be always reviewed no matter free or premium @vernal moth ?
void void
I like that they try to not repeat the 1.14 release.
yet its all pointing to this direction with all the new features and shit they add each update 
worn ember
I don't even know half the features that have been added the last updates
placid thicket
lootables:
auto-replenish: false > true
restrict-player-reloot: true > false
reset-seed-on-fill: true
max-refills: -1
refresh-min: 12h
refresh-max: 2d
will this refill loot chests that have been looted before this setting was set?
unkempt drift
I think it should
warm anchor
Only if the chest is the original one
unkempt drift
right. containers lose their loot table if they are broken
warm anchor
Make sure you understand m is minutes not month
Idk why Aikar did it like that year ago but it was funny people say they found dupe coz they set the refill to 1m
worn ember
isnt M months usually?
waxen panther
vernal moth
so when you want to upload a plugin to hangar it will be always reviewed no matt...
Hangar will only have premium plugins
No clue how we gonna handle the review yet, that's policy, policy comes later
topaz mortar
s/premium/free/
wraith wyvern
are you know about node-ipc situation?
ashen cliff
We are.
wraith wyvern
And now you say that you don't hate russians?
golden gust
wat
wraith wyvern
I'm just shocked
timber sentinel
oh look, it's this guy again
wraith wyvern
Yes, I am
golden gust
shitty dev does shitty thing towards people and is basically condemmed by the entire open source community
YOU ALL HATE RUSSIANS?!
golden gust
You just came into a random community and threw around a blind accusation towards the channel/community
wraith wyvern
ok, now I don't have time for this, just a cry from the heart
wraith wyvern
You just came into a random community and threw around a blind accusation toward...
I know that normal peoples exists
but when I see reddit posts "bombs for Russia"
vernal moth
Hate against Russia rises when Russian starts brutal and illegal attack wars
wraith wyvern
what we can do?
vernal moth
In other surprising news, water is actually wet!
golden gust
There are morons on both sides, there is propaganda on both sides
wraith wyvern
we can't change our government
golden gust
acting emotional over it does no good
vernal moth
What solution do you propose?
wraith wyvern
more precisely, it is "democracy"
golden gust
reddit reflects like, a stupidly small amount of people on the internet and in the world
wraith wyvern
What solution do you propose?
just wait when war over. we, russian civilians can't do anything
golden gust
most people on theres hardest struggle in life was having to move their feet out of bed onto the cold floor in winter to go for a shit
wet storm
just wait when war over. we, russian civilians can't do anything
Wtf are you saying
vernal moth
just wait when war over. we, russian civilians can't do anything
Ok so your solution is that we watch Putin burn down Ukraine,?
Lmao
vernal moth
And there comes the propaganda
wraith wyvern
And there comes the propaganda
no, I have a friend from Donetsk, he already used to the bombing
from Ukraine
ashen cliff
I would say IL... but I'm not ready to get banned. 🛌
wraith wyvern
no, I have a friend from Donetsk, he already used to the bombing
you can think that this is fake
but it's no
vernal moth
Well, whatever happened, it's in no way legitimates a attack war
So it doesn't matter
wraith wyvern
oh
wet storm
you don't see when Ukraine burn Donetsk and Lugansk people at 2014?
I am russian too, and stop believing propaganda, the situation on Ukraine that happens now doesn't equal to the situation before this war, it is simple logic...
vernal moth
So again, how do we stop Putin without basically starving Russia
wraith wyvern
So again, how do we stop Putin without basically starving Russia
citizen war, how it was at 1917-1922
this is only variant
vernal moth
Russian comes into a foreign country and kills civilians, that's illegal by international law
golden gust
Just, no
vernal moth
You know, the fundamental thing our world is build on
wraith wyvern
peaceful protests, as in 2020 in Belarus, will not help
golden gust
if putin stopped at military targets, I could support it; he went much further past that and basically, fuck him
void void
who do i like more electroniccat or mini
vernal moth
Quite frankly, I don't even care about the people on Russia, it's just not my problem, I just want Putin to be stopped
worn crest
peaceful protests, as in 2020 in Belarus, will not help
this discussion will not help
golden gust
but, I mean, this is a complex scenario where both sides are shitty propagandist cuntstaints but, this is not the place for such discussions
vernal moth
Russians should just shoot him or something, then this all can end
void void
putin wanter more than getting rid of ukraine's defences. He wanted to make Ukraine a puppet state
they cant
golden gust
mans in hiding
void void
putin has protection
glass crag
then you get someone worse than putin take over
wraith wyvern
Russians should just shoot him or something, then this all can end
and do citizen war because we haven't any other candidate
vernal moth
then you get someone worse than putin take over
What's worse than Putin?
wraith wyvern
bravo
vernal moth
He's already pretty up there, lol
warm anchor
and do citizen war because we haven't any other candidate
At least it will keep it to yourself
vernal moth
If a civil war is needed to bring down Putin, so be it
ashen cliff
Your other candidate is currently getting locked up for donation fraud...
vernal moth
At least that's a Russian thing then and doesn't hurt anybody else
golden gust
You gonna go put your life into that civil war or do you just expect that others will give theirs up while you sit at home?
vernal moth
This situation is already very bad so who cares
warm anchor
Civil war is very bad
So invading others is not bad?
wraith wyvern
~10 million deaths in civil war 1917-1922
vernal moth
Would be a good president
void void
getting a new person to be in putin's seat is easy
vernal moth
Oh I just don't care cat, lol
wraith wyvern
finding a new candidate is easy
no, now Russia haven't democrary. All opposition was jailed or killed or was sent abroad
vernal moth
I don't see how Russian politics are a me issue, I just want Putin to be stopped, the rest you can figure out yourself
wraith wyvern
find new person is very difficult
glass crag
zelenskyy
wraith wyvern
I don't see how Russian politics are a me issue, I just want Putin to be stopped...
ok, we can kill Putin. Next?
vernal moth
Hold elections
wraith wyvern
Civil war for power?
golden gust
I mean, as I keep tryna say, this really ain't the place for such discussions
warm anchor
Yeah Putin bad. End of discussion
vernal moth
Open the prisons, I bet they have good candidate material in them
golden gust
propaganda is everwhere, nobody has a clue how any of this shit works, and nobody here talking is willing to put their life up for it, glhf
vernal moth
The top prio is ending this war
worn ember
did someone say shitposting?
warm anchor
Yes
vernal moth
The rest you can figure out after that
warm anchor
golden gust
DED
frank otter
Yes
worn crest
Can we go back to shitposting?
i like bread
golden gust
You commie sl00t
golden gust
proof in point
warm anchor
worn ember
ban mini from bringing up politics tnx 
wraith wyvern
We can kill Putin, but we will bring 10+ million deaths in civil war
golden gust
Drop it
vernal moth
I didn't bring up politics, lol
warm anchor
Mini can you go back to work on hangar 
worn ember
hangar first then you can talk about world war III
warm anchor
vernal moth
I just need this guy to understand that I don't give a shit about Russian politics, just need this war to end
wraith wyvern
I am very unpleasant when my nation is humiliated everywhere, ordinary people are humiliated
void void
martin make me your apprentice
vernal moth
I already have two apprentices
worn ember
https://tenor.com/view/gura-sex-meme-gif-20666701
sir this is a christian minecraft server
wraith wyvern
ordinary people are humiliated when we can't do anything
void void
I already have two apprentices
i will outmatch them
timber sentinel
normal
vernal moth
Mini can you go back to work on hangar <a:CharacterSelectHamm:937863142522900560...
Today was a break day on hangar, only did an hour
wraith wyvern
and, I don't support Putin at all
full rune
warm anchor
wraith wyvern
we just haven't any other candidate
void void
Post leaf’s favorite gif to end discussion
that seagull ate a rat
warm anchor
Yes
vernal moth
!warn @wraith wyvern last warning, drop it and don't bring it up again
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Warned TheSirCororo#6513 (last warning, drop it and don't bring it up again) [3 total infractions] -- MiniDigger#3086.
warm anchor
No chewing
worn ember
that seagull ate a rat
very observent
wraith wyvern
sorry
wet storm
Send the another version where the seagull eats a rabbit or something
worn ember
you cant hold discussions with germans when they're sober
void void
i just learned something important
ashen cliff
Politics?
vernal moth
i will outmatch them
I highly doubt that, am proud of mine, plus, they did already study computer science for 3 years
void void
people are very emotional. What I should do is be smart about what I do.
that is the best approach i can take to anything
i must think first about what kind of reaction i might receive
in any public or private space
void void
Or be me and just don't care
danger
golden gust
implying one thinks
void void
I always say what I think
i was gonna respond to that but now that i thought about it i shouldn't
wet storm
Send the another version where the seagull eats a rabbit or something
This gif I think https://imgur.com/ij95uWn
vernal moth
Says the nation that can't even build bombs that explode
wet storm
Says the nation that can't even build bombs that explode
not again😭
vernal moth
It's just evacuating for an hour or so
void void
This gif I think https://imgur.com/ij95uWn
imagine being in that animals position and just getting eaten like that. Your life ends just all of a sudden
vernal moth
Not really a shutdown
void void
you would feel so helpless
vernal moth
And you never know, maybe it was an American bomb, gotta be careful since those actually work
golden gust
hope u kick one
void void
ban mini from bringing up politics tnx <:KEKW:628249422253391902>
discussing current events is allowed
I think
wet storm
discussing current events is allowed
Current events are politics I think
void void
Why are mini and cat fighting?
wet storm
Old events are history
void void
they are coworkers. they should be friends
vernal moth
Why does everybody always assume I brought it up? :/
golden gust
To be fair
vernal moth
Where are we fighting? Lol
golden gust
germany does have a history of like, taking things and making them big
wraith wyvern
and no-politic question
vernal moth
Everything is politics btw if you want
wraith wyvern
where I can full example of packet sending and join sequence for minecraft?
golden gust
Like, their lil polish holiday in 1939
wraith wyvern
wiki.vg
it doesn't help me
my player just kicked with empty error
login stage is success
vernal moth
Like, their lil polish holiday in 1939
They should give us some of that back, smh
vernal moth
Same with France
void void
Where are we fighting? Lol
you were making fun of his nation not being able to make bombs and he said that you should kick an american bomb
wraith wyvern
with empty error
full rune
get pakkit and see the packet for yourself
golden gust
Me and mini have been around for like, years
wraith wyvern
get pakkit and see the packet for yourself
it don't shows login packets and handshake packets
golden gust
we do stupid jokes
vernal moth
I prolly know cat for longer than you have been able to use a PC, lmao
wet storm
Okay, just wanna know, what drama happened to fabric in the beggining of 2021?
wraith wyvern
it don't shows login packets and handshake packets
and by them I got packets with unexists packet id
vernal moth
Okay, just wanna know, what drama happened to fabric in the beggining of 2021?
What happened to fabric is what would have happened to paper if we didn't have moderation frameworks in place
vernal moth
Austria was the root of like, 2 world wars
Yeah, fuck those guys, they speak strange!
golden gust
says the country
wet storm
Swizerland
wraith wyvern
And... maybe minecraft has logging mod?
golden gust
afraid of spaces.
vernal moth
~~Swizerland~~
See, swiss is a sweet language
wraith wyvern
(minecraft debug console doesn't help, it just has empty logs)
vernal moth
You realize Austria uses German too, right cat?
They are just incapable of proper pronunciation
topaz mortar
😄
vernal moth
And... maybe minecraft has logging mod?
Pakkit
golden gust
wiki.vg has the entire login process noted down
everything else is literally comparing what happens vs a vanilla server manually
wet storm
Imagine understanding swiss german...
full rune
it don't shows login packets and handshake packets
pretty sure that pakkit is able to log handshake packets, since it's a proxy
golden gust
some stuff is doc'd, some stuff ain't, welcome to the joys of reverse engineering
stuck lynx
screw chermany
oi
wraith wyvern
wiki.vg has the entire login process noted down
I compare all my encryption algorithm and packet sending algorithm, no results, it's right
golden gust
it's right
wraith wyvern
And I compare with other cores, like Minestom
wraith wyvern
or glowstone
golden gust
you're clearly missing something if its not working
wraith wyvern
I think that packet encryption isn't success
but why
I got shared secret
I encrypt packet by it
with AES/CFB8/NoPadding algorithm
it's algorithm from Glowstone core and it works
void void
btw russians have really good music
music that you can vibe to
american music is usually kinda weird
golden gust
void void
and germans have SpongeBozz ACAB
golden gust
I kinda don't wanna learn to drive because health issues
but
learning to drive for the sake of owning a LADA... hm...
just, no
stuck lynx
Jokes aside, tofu tastes best when fried in a pan with a small amount of bacon
It seriously tastes like meat afterwards
golden gust
glass crag
I tried the vegan McDonald's burger which I think is beyond meat, I was kinda surprised, but it was a bit drier tasting
fervent quartz
i just eat meat, tastes 100% like meat
golden gust
I mean, if you're at maccyd's, I guess 🤷♂️
But, like, in general
I fail to see the argument in replacing meat with crap
stuck lynx
I just eat, tastes 100% like food
glass crag
I'd rather just eat vegetables/natural food if I was vegan
stuck lynx
Same
glass crag
Although vegan nuggets ain't bad
stuck lynx
I don't want to know the co2 footprint of tofu imported from asia
magic river
vernal moth
CIA be like, don't mind if I do
golden gust
inb4 this is all a CIA plot and their entire goal was to get one of those bad boys
stuck lynx
Now we need a Russian translator lol
fervent quartz
well its useless if it doesnt run paper
you dont even have to enter the server address if youre near one of those things, they just LAN broadcast straight into your server list with that fat antenna dish
stuck lynx
Ok, lens to the rescue
vernal moth
As a German I can attest that the Russians for a bad imitation of our blitz krieg
Should have let professionals handle it
Smh
wet storm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIjKijhv1OU
Like, there are many good russian music, especially in rock genre, I am a fan of a group called DDT, like: https://youtu.be/vlA0bd9icrU
golden gust
Ironically, they did pull a similar move to y'all
Just, instead of snow, they decided to cross muddy terrain
in a general area, which has been through many dozen wars
vernal moth
Russians are extremely dependent on rail too iirc
golden gust
in which, the muddy terrain, was always a major issue for advancing
stuck lynx
As a German I can attest that the Russians for a bad imitation of our blitz krie...
Bruh I'm german too
stuck lynx
Better than Dschermans
golden gust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xy1FZYRU6Y - is basically the only russian song am familar with
simple karma
whom wanna play some gartic phone
simple karma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xy1FZYRU6Y - is basically the only russian song...
All the things she said
Running through my head
its also russian
vestal jasper
This is not enough
golden gust
russian artists, not like, russian
simple karma
It's all about us, all about us
It's all about, all about us, all about us
There's a theme that they can't touch
magic river
That's one of those things we all told each other at school 😛
Like using Strength on the truck in front of the SS Anne to get Mew
Someone these memes spread even before the internet existed or was widespread
wraith wyvern
btw russians have really good music
oh, maybe all music but this is not rap
russian rap is so bad
why
golden gust
to be fair, rap in general is just bad
void void
Kaspian is here now
cat you come off as a person who isnt bad to people
as a person who would not speak to me in a mean way IRL
vestal jasper
cat you come off as a person who isnt bad to people
They threaten to shit on my rug on a near daily basis
Cats yet to do it though
stuck lynx
what?
void void
same
stuck lynx
we are a jelly ball piloting a bone mech using meat armor, and we all know that
stuck lynx
what if biden will be North Korea leader?
we all know the jewish nazis control north korea
vernal moth
Why are you trying to stir up shit again?
wraith wyvern
no, this is just joke
stuck lynx
(the very same that control ukraine)
worn crest
no, this is just joke
bad joke
plucky sparrow
I can confirm
wraith wyvern
i just want to fix my depression
plucky sparrow
cat has an unhealthy obsession with shitting on rugs
warm anchor
Lies
golden gust
my goal in life is to get to the point where my antics are famous enough that I can rival that heart warming film about the two girls with that cup
foggy silo
🛑
vestal jasper
Yw
sharp spindle
void void
The Md_5 diss and SpigotMc song response coming soon!
brave mountain
I need help with some C homework
A worker is deducted xxx% of salary if the salary does not exceed xx amount, if it is greater but less than xxx, xx% is deducted in addition to the previous discount, if it is greater than xxx, x% is deducted in addition to the 2 previous discounts, in modular mode, separate functions.
I was thinking in putting input and output in int main and the other 3 operations in speared functions (float I think), but I don't know how to call each function one by one to get que correct output no matter the input and use fgets() and strtol() instead of scanf() to ensure que correct input.
warm anchor
Bro do your own homework
magic river
TIL how multiplication is taught these days
I like it, it makes it more obvious what you're doing
Kind of verbose though, even in the partial products version
brave mountain
Thank you 😊
lilac moon
wait i dont understa,d why is there more below the "100" there on the left
what is that stuff
magic river
That's the area model but shorthand
Instead of writing out a table you just write the answer to each cell on a line then add them up
lilac moon
we were never taught that
lilac moon
must be pretty new
magic river
2010 or so, iirc
lilac moon
was it only for certain schools then
i dont wanna do the math right now but i was probably learning multiplication after 2010
magic river
I don't think I'd want to do multiplication this way, even the partial products version seems verbose, but maybe if I learned it that way it'd be okay
Well in the US we learn it when we're 8 so that would mean you're younger than 20
lilac moon
i am younger than 20
magic river
I think if they don't teach it this way they lose out on some funding
Although something like 40 states had agreed on Common Core (thus the name) before that happened
topaz mortar
I don't think I'd want to do multiplication this way, even the partial products ...
11 x 12
10 x 12 + 1 x 12 = 120 + 12 = 132
I think the example is to easy for it being useful.
smoky cloud
That hurt my tiny brain
raven basin
Any recommendations on advertising mc server
warm anchor
Serverlist, Reddit, word of mouth
magic river
One of these things is not like the others....
warm anchor
wide chasm
"What's the problem, one version behind isn't too- Oh... Oh no..."
waxen panther
cringo
limber urchin
hello my server is using up so much ram, what is the fix for it? i am on papaer and have loaded in the world with chunky plugin, setup the world border, optimized my server following a guide, and have some plugins to help with performance
lament patio
Worry if you're getting bad GC times or crashing out of memory
Otherwise, if you want the server to use less RAM, allocate less
warm anchor
Last sentence indicate bad news 
post your timing / spark report in #paper-help and also your startup flags
limber urchin
ok
my server is 15.6 GB / 16 GB which seems abnormally high and there are not even that many people on
waxen panther
ram usage is a bad metric, it doesn't really align with how java works
if you dont have gc or performance problems, dont worry about it
foggy silo
waxen panther
unplayable
limber urchin
Last sentence indicate bad news <:PepeLa:798951090539987004> post your timing / ...
posted
vestal jasper
elbow pasta with cheese sauce
tropic flame
why would you extract pasta from your elbow? sounds disgusting /s
spare venture
TIL how multiplication is taught these days
partial products was kinda how it was taught to me, or at least how to do it in your head. if i see 11 x 12, i do 11 x 10, then 11 x 2.
and i'm 24
112 x 112. (112 * 100) + (112*10) + (112 * 2)
magic river
11 x 10 then 11 x 2 is how I do it in my head too, that's not what this is though
This is 10 x 10 then 1 x 10 then 10 x 2 then 2 x 1
unkempt drift
I do it 11x10 and 11x2 as well
magic river
The way they do addition and subtraction is... interesting now too
It's similar to how I do it in my head but with what feel like a lot of useless extra steps
It's better than the number line method they taught us though
Oh wait they do the number line just a little differently
hmm, I guess that is kind of how I'm doing it in my head
I skip some steps (30 instead of 10 + 10 + 10) and sometimes do some other shortcuts
proud lance
I wonder how the new common core math system will affect people doing calculations in programs
I remember when it first came out I hated looking at it
magic river
It's teaching them how to break problems down and why your solution works, I bet it makes doing proofs in geometry easier and probably with learning programming too
Apparently a lot of the new stuff is based on how students with high math comprehension (number sense?) think about problems
Trying to get everyone to learn the methods those people figured out for themselves (or something similar/better)
jeez Elden Ring is still a 95 on PC
I guess people will tolerate stuttering that causes them to die when Miyazaki does it
spare venture
considering the people i’ve met who learned math in the US… common core at least is attempting to try to teach them the concepts rather than just memorizing
magic river
Right, math when I learned it in the US was memorizing the times tables, the magic formulas for long division and multiplication, etc
spare venture
problem is that there is a huge variance in what people are learning across the US, and this is trying to create a standard
and yeah i like their approach
magic river
Common Core is named that because it's, well, common 😛
spare venture
yup many people only learn the times tables because that’s all you really need to get pretty far
magic river
Even before the federal government added an incentive to use it a majority of the country had agreed to do so (and worked together to develop it)
spare venture
what i don’t get is people on my minecraft server talk about how they literally failed every class in the past few years and still somehow graduated (canada and USA)
cunning raft
that seems to be pandemic related
spare venture
yeah, i understand giving some sort of leeway but i’ve seen people who just didn’t turn anything in and failed every test
wonder what’s gonna happen if a large portion of people are dumber than what i already thought the general population was
or the kids that were supposed to start school at the beginning of the pandemic. wonder what their development is looking like
tropic flame
TIL how multiplication is taught these days
11
x 12
------
22
+ 11 <- yes, the indentation is relevant
------
132
this is how I learned it at school
oh it seems to be more or less what you guys were talking about
11x2 and then 11x10
lilac moon
raven basin
1.8 pvp or 1.9 pvp
true canyon
Neither, both are super old. 1.18 pvp.
raven basin
Isnt there no delay before 1.7
like if you clicked 10 clicks per second you would hit them like 10 times in one seconds
like hurt time didnt exist
raven basin
Neither, both are super old. 1.18 pvp.
yk what I mean 1.9 pvp meaning all of the new combat versions
pale river
Although I often debate with people who prefer Alpha 1.0.15
raven basin
I think skill gap on 1.18 is much higher then 1.8
I think 1.8 imo is more fun though
easy to pick it up and learn it
tropic flame
1.8 more like carpal tunnel simulator
except it's not a simulator, you'll really get carpal tunnel
raven basin
yeah if it were up to me
the max cps you could click would be 8
abusing your mouse shouldnt give you an advantage
pale river
1.8 is a test to see how much people are willing to kill the hand for an advantage
raven basin
I mean I do good with 6 cps
I can jitter 12 cps
but I prefer aim over cps
it shouldnt give you an advantage past 8 cps
because thats mouse and hand abuse
pale river
I swear people will figure out that smashing your hand onto a table until you damage your nerves will let you click faster and they will do it.
Truly a competitive game
raven basin
yep 1.8 sweats are special
easy cps method
plug fork in outlet
hold hand on mouse
touch fork
easy 80 cps
pale river
I actually do prefer 1.8 to 1.9 although that’s relative as both systems suck.
pale river
A faster 1.9-like system without hard counters
Shield shouldn’t just beat sword. Axe shouldn’t just beat shield.
Shields make no sense to me.
crystal compass
-Xmx 10G btw
crystal compass
bet
raven basin
bro i miss the old days of cod
raven basin
Yeah
foggy veldt
It’s not the same, pc cod has a different vibe than ps3 / 360 cod lobbies
Voice chat in lobbies were the best part of those days, the ps4 party chat ruined console cod because no one would talk in game anymore and pc cod has the same problem because of discord
peak ginkgo
their videos are trollage that's just kinda
how dbrand communicates
Twitter
Enjoy.
peak ginkgo
My last phone did, I bought an iPhone 13 recently and just never went out of my way to get another.
@limpid knot
peak ginkgo
its beautiful ^
vestal jasper
My favorite skin tbh
wet storm
Say wow backwards
worn ember
wet storm
I mean, backwards
void void
Hangar will only have premium plugins
why won't hangar have free plugins?
what do I mean by premium, is, paid plugins
wide chasm
Mini probably didn't mean premium as in paid, but rather high-quality.
void void
that was my initial thought too but a confirmation would be appreciated
golden gust
hangar is not gonna be paid only
wide chasm
The general policies for Hangar are still mostly up in the air to my knowledge, but it will definitely have free plugins available.
golden gust
there is still much stuff to be decided policy wise, chances are mini was just making a dumb joke about how premium != paid
golden gust
nou
wide chasm
Why not both? /s
vernal moth
If I ever try to sell you obfuscated shit as premium you can call me stupid cat
void void
Spigot is just stupid
the 4 words that are so right
void void
If I ever try to sell you obfuscated shit as premium you can call me stupid cat
stupid cat /s
primal solar
there is still much stuff to be decided policy wise, chances are mini was just m...
Called it spot on lol
void void
in all seriousness spigot is doing all wrong with the paid resources section
they are looking for quality code yet when the code is obfuscated how can you tell it's quality or not
golden gust
they don't care about quality
they'll often look for day 1 java reasons to exclude a resource but theres no real care about overall quality
void void
low effort plugins < 10kb of code bitch i can make a good plugin with a cool feature which is gonna be <10kb why can't sell it symbolically for a dolla
ashen cliff
Is anyone going to stop you from doing that?