general

[golden gust]

oh god, welcome to the internet

[frank otter]

a VA?

[warm anchor]

Oh god that eyeliner

[left swift]

2012 youtube meme

[vernal moth]

very 2012

[golden gust]

She was like, the emo chick queen of /b/ when emo was at its height

[left swift]

maybe even 2010

[mental meadow]

Oh god I'm gonna get eyeliner

[frank otter]

what's /b/

[vernal moth]

cat, not everybody lives on /b/

[left swift]

dont learn

your life will be better

[golden gust]

/b/ is one of the glorious bastions of the internet

full of such amazing feats

[true canyon]

Hi my name is baxxy

[warm anchor]

/b/ stands for beauty. Go look

[frank otter]

yeah if cat is speaking highly of it I'm not looking it up

[left swift]

b||ussy||

[vernal moth]

I wanted to google /b/ and turns out, somebody owns the domain b?

[mental meadow]

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/LOpjwuZ.png

like wtf

[warm anchor]

[golden gust]

Like, doing such beatiful things, like catching animal abusers and such, having a war with scientology

[vernal moth]

I want to own http://b

[left swift]

when is papergun being added

[frank otter]

how do you even get a no-extension domain

[left swift]

[golden gust]

and such acts as the stalking of a flag akin to "fuck former guy in office" to such levels of, idfk what to say

[vernal moth]

does this work for you guys too? http://c/

[void void]

Redirects to c.com for me (FF)

[mental meadow]

same

[frank otter]

not work for me at all

[vernal moth]

lmao guess thats my company VPN then

[mental meadow]

i feel like you have a weird dns

[void void]

Doesn't load at all with chrome

[mental meadow]

"mh b let's just give him the first thing we find starting with b"

[left swift]

imagine being the owner of a.com

[vernal moth]

yep disconnected from vpn now I get the ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED

wtf

[frank otter]

mini

I don't have a reminder

[mental meadow]

good bot

[frank otter]

I think it's sending them to DiscordBot in dms

[limber knot]

.remind 10s: let's test that out

[left swift]

irc bridge cant dm can it

[limber knot]

(NoahvdAa) Sorry, remind input must be more then a minute, and less then one month.

oh come on

.remind 1m: let's try that out*

(NoahvdAa) Alright, I'll remind you "let's try that out*" in 60 seconds!

.remind 1m: hangar wen!

(onetesseract) Alright, I'll remind you "hangar wen!" in 60 seconds!

yeah it dms you

[mental meadow]

v useful

[frank otter]

ig only phoenix can use it properly then

[peak ginkgo]

Use warships

Let me see if I remember Dooley syntax

[golden gust]

LET ME SEE YOUR WAR FACE

[peak ginkgo]

!remind add 2m lole

[frank otter]

!help remind

[peak ginkgo]

!remind 2m lole

[frank otter]

is there no help

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0T4Yw-TabE

[peak ginkgo]

He dropped the add keyword

[golden gust]

No

[peak ginkgo]

Works ^

[frank otter]

!remind 1m uhh

[mental meadow]

DeJay ❤️

[peak ginkgo]

Hii :) 🥰

[frank otter]

oooooo

there's a procrastinate button

[thorny flicker]

@peak ginkgo

Reminder

lole

created by DeJay#1337 · Mar 15, 2022, 8:14 PM

[golden gust]

Yea

that's also the on button

[left swift]

ur a button

[vernal moth]

uff

wondered why I had extra money on my bank, turns out my car insurance gave me money back with the note "all drivers are 25+ soon"

am officially old now

[left swift]

pog

o wait nice I only have 1 more year to go before i stop getting legally prejudiced by car insurance!!

[mental meadow]

that reminds me

[vernal moth]

basically I already paid for this year, but they saw that ill turn 25 on 4/20 so they gave me the money I paid extra back

[left swift]

soon I'll be able to rent a car!

[mental meadow]

I feel like recently rich people use us to get higher tax return by donating to us

[left swift]

getting old is so cool!

[mental meadow]

I have no issue with it but its fuin

[golden gust]

I mean, they do

[vernal moth]

even for me I can see that making a difference in my tax returns, lol

[mental meadow]

it's good though, we were finally able to have our first paid position

[golden gust]

it's all business as usual

[vernal moth]

reminds me of the 100 buck donation to spigot back in the day that I declared and tax office was like, yeah sure, ill take a random paypal screenshot to some austrian redhead, that sure is a charitable cause, its development aid after all!

[mental meadow]

just donate to us, ez we are gemeinnützig

[peak ginkgo]

Go non profit so you guys can become a business expense

[mental meadow]

When I said "we" now I meant the queer lexikon

[mossy vessel]

austrian != australian smh

[left swift]

close enough

[thorny flicker]

@frank otter

Reminder

uhh

created by onetesseract#9363 · Mar 15, 2022, 8:15 PM

[cloud moat]

Do you have Kangaroos in Austria ^^

jk

[pastel reef]

Did I do this right?

[cloud moat]

How did you get into my house and were able to take a picture of my PC without me noticing

[left swift]

if want to see if the ssd is working tap it on the side of ur pc a few times when it's on

[mental meadow]

yea

usually in the zoo

[void void]

I feel like that might be missing a sata cable

[pastel reef]

It doesn't even fit :I

[cloud moat]

Yeah

[cloud moat]

The dremel is your best friend

[pastel reef]

But some local computer salesmen told me that SATA II and SATA III are compatible and this is the outcome.

The other one doesn't fit for some reason

[mental meadow]

have to plug in sata power and sata (data)

you plugged in sata power and need to plug in sata data. The connector looks the same but less long

[pastel reef]

The other slot on the ssd is half the size

Am I just using the wrong cable?

[topaz mortar]

Both need to be connected

[pastel reef]

Also, what is a dremel?

[mental meadow]

send a picture of the cable

[ashen cliff]

Hope you don't need 3.3V.

[worn ember]

budget grinder

[pastel reef]

Does that really work?

Seems a little too simple to me

Just cutting it off

[left swift]

the sharp toothbrush

[cloud moat]

Depends on what you want to make fit

It sounded like it doesn't fit in your case, and you can just grind away some of the aluminium to make stuff fit

[limpid knot]

hi

[void void]

What about the sata cable

I only see sata power

[void void]

Wtf, that doesnt work

@pastel reef you need sata power and sata cable

Power powers the drive

Sata cable for data

It wont work without both

[pastel reef]

All good, I found an unused SATA cable.

[void void]

Lol

[limber knot]

hm

[limpid knot]

Is it just me or did the guy above just randomly become a bot

[ashen cliff]

Just you.

[warm anchor]

I think you are seeing things.

[limber knot]

Lol

IRC kiddo :P

[turbid oar]

Just think a bit more

[mellow mulch]

welcome to the internet <3

[lilac moon]

now i'm interested

[mellow mulch]

here's context

join ig, but don't go around telling lies lol

🤷‍♂️

[lilac moon]

oh wait

i didnt connect the dots that you guys are the same 2 guys in the screenshot

[mellow mulch]

someone had the unforgiven unforgivable fuck word in their about

that's it

cope

frick*

[golden gust]

It's the internet

[warm anchor]

Guys this is Paper Discord. We dont generally care what other discord is doing...

[mellow mulch]

I know but they brought it ip

Up

[golden gust]

a place in which there is material ranging from puppies and death

[lilac moon]

what about the cats

[golden gust]

if a single f bomb in a profile causes that much duress, maybe the internet isn't the place for you

[warm anchor]

[golden gust]

puppies > cats > weebs > death

[warm anchor]

Just stay here. Chat is a bit pepega from time to time but quality is way better

[mellow mulch]

what about ferrets

[golden gust]

I mean, I was in primary school dropping the f bomb

Like, we even had fun rhymes just for an excuse to drop it

it's like a word

making a fluster about it makes it more powerful than it is

[lilac moon]

also i dont think being partnered has anything to do with not swearing

[mellow mulch]

like if I could see where it's not allowed could you show?

we did no such thing!!

[granite flax]

Yeah 😼

[magic river]

https://giphy.com/gifs/snl-saturday-night-live-season-47-QmcuB58dRfmZx1KW1Y

[mellow mulch]

frick is a very sfw sord

word

[warm anchor]

I think fuck is fine. It's a beautiful word

[lilac moon]

youre making me want popcorn now

[warm anchor]

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZkb4TPI-Lo

[warm anchor]

[magic river]

You can definitely say shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, and tits on discord

[warm anchor]

yes we are adults and kids under12 is probably against TOS. Just sayin'

[mellow mulch]

boobie

[lilac moon]

trap

fixed that for you

[golden gust]

people under 13 is against TOS

[warm anchor]

oh its 13

[golden gust]

and theres many other countries which stipulate higher minimum ages

[magic river]

It's 16 for a good chunk of the EU, right?

[clear ice]

feels like first day of basic training and our virgin ears are hearing the devil tongue for the first time

[warm anchor]

TO be real honest about this, I wouldnt want my kid or MYSELF when I was 12 to be here on dicord. There are so many fucked up shits said on this platform

[magic river]

We definitely talk about porn in here

[golden gust]

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360050817374-Age-restriction

[magic river]

We just were yesterday even

[golden gust]

I mean, we're not supposed to 😄

I mean, many discussions sorta like, surround stuff that theres always that fun weird line on stuff

[clear ice]

it's ok I just found my 12 yr old was on tender...

[magic river]

Does it help if the porn involves 16 year old cartoon characters?

Hmm, no, that probably makes it worse

[golden gust]

oh god

[lilac moon]

uh

just read that out of context

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiBI0yrtHUo

[magic river]

Hmm, wrong emote

[warm anchor]

https://www.reddit.com/r/chairsunderwater/

[golden gust]

I love the movies by james may

[warm anchor]

this is NSFW?

[golden gust]

Like, you know the plot ones

[lilac moon]

JAMES MAY?

[golden gust]

Where he walks into a house, knocks on the door "am here to fix the boiler"

and, he fixes the boiler

[lilac moon]

oh

yeah

[warm anchor]

?

[lilac moon]

i know what youre talking about

[warm anchor]

it's all rainbow color here idk what you talking about

[golden gust]

it's all fun and games and ||then tentacles||

[warm anchor]

hmmm yummy

[mellow mulch]

wat kids dont swear???? /s

[magic river]

When I was 12 I thought https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muOhib1QsOQ was the funniest song ever

[magic nebula]

What rule did they break? I’d love to hear, since this is paper, I’d be glad to continue in DMs if that’s a plausible option, thanks!

[warm anchor]

tbf not the worse I've heard

[magic river]

It's ICP though so it's automatically -20 points

[buoyant crane]

Insane Clown Pussy

[lilac moon]

Internal Combustion Panel

[true canyon]

It's the No table role.

[lilac moon]

they only have a desk

no table

[magic river]

Removethespace 😄

[foggy silo]

Yea they lost their table 😦

[magic river]

Youtube how could you do this to me

[warm anchor]

oh I love Lindsey Sirling

totally not coz of Dota or anything

[tropic flame]

Nightwish and Evanescence?

YouTube's doing you a favor

based music

[magic river]

Nightwish stole my name so fuck them 😛

[tropic flame]

I'd be honored if they made a song named Logics4 but you do you

[foggy silo]

😅

[magic river]

If I liked the song it'd be cool

I don't like the song or the band all that much so it's just annoying

[spare venture]

wow i should not have scrolled up

[tropic flame]

im going to listen to it at this very right moment

thoughts later

[tropic flame]

it's good imo but not my style of metal

was expecting something with more punch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4azillbpqU

this is one of my favorite metal songs tbh

the whole band's pretty fun, they sing about vikings and stuff around that theme

nordic culture

this one is about... drunken dwarves

quite literally

[tropic flame]

https://twitter.com/peta/status/1500938056588611584

PETA (@peta)

Rise, Tarnished, and bear witness to the amazing animals of the Lands Between!

Here are our top 5 things you should do in #ELDENRING. https://t.co/ULPC8RQQDG

Likes

22078

Retweets

3888

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Twitter · Mar 7, 2022, 8:54 PM

lays down the chicken wing i was devouring

thanks, PETA

[magic river]

🤣

[tropic flame]

picks the chicken wing up again

[golden gust]

"I'll stop eating tasty animals when you stop killing them needlessly"

[warm anchor]

It's not my fault they are so tasty

[limpid knot]

wow

minecraft fucking your gpu up

i like your name by the way spicychicken

kung pao chicken

[warm anchor]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/customization/complementary-shaders/files

[magic river]

They don't need constant babysitting, they're somewhat automated

Knowing the lengths they go to keep the grid at 60Hz I'm not sure how well it'd work if everyone stopped using power though

I suspect a lot of plants would automatically shut down and/or be disconnected from the network then the first time you turn a toaster on you overload the grid in 3 states and trigger an emergency disconnect of your city too 😄

[spring mango]

does minecraft not support fulscreen on a 4k TV? Everytime i launch mc on using my tv as an external screen it crashes immediately

[vernal moth]

It does work just fine at any resolution

[magic river]

I would think maybe you're hitting a texture size limit in your GPU but unless you're using some absurd texture pack if your GPU can drive a 4K display it should be able to handle whatever Minecraft might be trying to do

[lilac moon]

I play it on a 4k display

[magic river]

Me too

[vernal moth]

Full screen in general is wonky tho

[lilac moon]

Unfortunately I had to sacrifice my second monitor because xorg doesn't like having multiple displays with different dpis and my other monitor is 1080p

[vernal moth]

Just use windowed

[lilac moon]

I will try Wayland someday

Some later day I will give up and use windows

[magic river]

I have had modpacks fail due to texture size limits due to them trying to generate some massive texture atlas due to a combination of how many blocks they add, my texture pack, and mipmapping

[golden gust]

basically, yes

[magic river]

MC is supposed to detect this and generate multiple atlases for this case but I think they broke that too

[golden gust]

I think that theres some automated means for bringing generation on but that's more like, stuff which is machinery in general

e.g. pumped hydro

[magic river]

If you live near something renewable or nuclear I think it'd be most likely to keep working if everyone died

[golden gust]

issue is the transmission networks, tbqh

[magic river]

Not because the others will run out of fuel but because they can be easily tuned up/down or turned off when demand is low so that's what the automated systems would do to them

[golden gust]

Like, many of them will try to auto recover for some stuff

[magic river]

Nuclear they have to build a means to just dump power into the ground iirc

[golden gust]

local grids ofc are the safer bet

But, I mean, even there it gets to be a nightmare

e.g. theres many means that a reactor can trip out

earthquake, something falling out of spec, etc

I don't think nuclear is exactly walk away safe yet either, at least not existing deployments, that's more next gen and NIMBY! 😄

[magic river]

Oh yeah, nuclear probably wouldn't run long without people managing it or the rest of the infrastructure like water working

Hydro would also need a means to just dump power or automatically ease the generators on and off and would probably keep running for years

Not a lot of years but still

[spring mango]

i have no texture pack, just optifine 1.16.5 and the tv is connected through hdmi 2.0 port from my laptop

[magic river]

optifine is probably doing something dumb 😄

What does the log say?

[spring mango]

`A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:

EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x00007ffe91da5130, pid=9044, tid=18752

JRE version: OpenJDK Runtime Environment Temurin-17.0.1+12 (17.0.1+12) (build 17.0.1+12)

Java VM: OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Temurin-17.0.1+12 (17.0.1+12, mixed mode, sharing, tiered, compressed oops, compressed class ptrs, g1 gc, windows-amd64)

Problematic frame:

C [glfw.dll+0x5130]`

[golden gust]

that's a memory access error

[magic river]

Probably a driver doing a dumb

[lilac moon]

I would say test if the same thing happens on vanila

[spring mango]

is it a ram issue or driver issue?

[golden gust]

the opengl library hit a memory access exception

as for why, I can'ttell you

[magic river]

I don't think LWJGL makes it easy to just violate memory safety

That's the Java API wrapper around GLFW, GL, OpenAL, etc

[golden gust]

Well, yea, it was the glfw dll

[spring mango]

it worked fine until i pressed f11 to change to fullscreen mode and boom, crashed

[magic river]

GLFW is a layer above GL, it's a library for handling windowing, input, and GL context creation

Probably a driver bug

Memory corruption can make it hard to trust a stacktrace

[golden gust]

Yea, I mean, drivers is generally where I'd see most stuff like that these days

[magic river]

Although 1.16 still used an ancient LWJGL, right?

[golden gust]

use whatever driver uninstaller is recommended for your GPU OEM and install a fresh copy of the drivers

[spring mango]

btw i use amd radeon graphics if it makes any difference

[golden gust]

I mean, on one side, at least its not intel

Then again, all of the major OEMs have had some fun wonky driver issues over the years

[spring mango]

its a thinkpad*

[magic river]

Amusingly AMD and Intel make the best drivers known to man

[golden gust]

I mean the GPU manf by OEM

[magic river]

...just not for Windows

[golden gust]

lol

I've seen some wonky shit from intel drivers over the years

especially back in like, 2011

[hexed cipher]

Best free server website?with paper support

[golden gust]

There was this like physics simulator, algodoo, and like, intel GPU drivers where a common nuanced for random shit like the GUI just not working

[spring mango]

hmm everone excited for new intel arc?

[hexed cipher]

Reply

[golden gust]

dont spam

We're not a review website

[magic river]

Mesa is widely regarded as the least buggy GL library and when bugs do happen they're usually fixed pretty quickly if you're a developer and can tell them how you broke it

Dunno why Intel or AMD haven't tried to bring that over to Windows

Or just give up on GL on Windows and use ANGLE

[lilac moon]

Mesa biome

[spring mango]

they are bringing some broad claims for their discrete arc gpu

[golden gust]

casual reminder that microsoft once demo'd the xbox by having a top spec windows PC in a cupboard

[magic river]

That was the 360

[golden gust]

manfs claim lots of crap, I'd wait until it's actually out to see what it can do

[spring mango]

man i love my laptop. 6 core ryzen cpu, never beyond 70C, fans barely a whisper under load

[magic river]

Remember when Epic demoed voxel-based global illumination for the PS4 in UE4 like 9 months before the PS4 came out then it turns out the demo was on a PC and the PS4 was like half the speed needed to run it?

[golden gust]

lol

Never heard that one 😄

I remember some of the ryzen reviews where some people where basically saying that the chip wasn't all that amazing

[spring mango]

mine has ryzen 5 5650U

[golden gust]

Turned out that basically the entire thing was held back because they couldn't get their hands on the higher speed DDR sticks at the time, etc

[magic river]

Ah, I guess I never heard the end of that story

[vernal moth]

I have been seeing crazy demos of the new two GI modes in godot, they got a new voxel which looks nice already, but the sdfgi is amazing

And was paid for by epic ^^

[spring mango]

its mainly the efficiency of the chip compared to intel like heat and wattage, not necessarily the raw performance.

[golden gust]

the performance was a key factor, especially in regards to cost

[magic river]

Apparently Epic was demoing Voxel Cone Tracing, that ended up not working on the PS4, then a dev studio I've never heard of invented Cascaded Voxel Cone Tracing and that could work

They used it on a PS4 game called The Tomorrow Children

Also never heard of that

[golden gust]

intel for as long as I can remember in terms of my own "keeping up with the trends", which was admitedly somewhat loosely, always kinda dickstomped AMD

but, AMD always had good price per watt/performance ratings, especially vs intel

[spring mango]

i was mainly referring to zen3 mobile cpus compared to tigerlake

[golden gust]

But, I know several people who had FX chips who magically lowered their heating bills

[magic river]

zen3 only really wins if you lock the power usage down below 45W

Or was it 35W?

[spring mango]

15W

[magic river]

If you let Alder Lake and Zen3 CPUs both run wild they end up using about the same amount of power but the Alder Lake smashes the Zen3 in perf

It's only when you lock them way down so they're always throttled that Zen3 wins

In laptops, no idea on desktop

[golden gust]

It's been fun, however

[spring mango]

im waiting for the u series alderlake, that's the real test

[golden gust]

Like, I remember many benchmarks which showed AMD kinda rocked in regards to single core performance

but, as soon as you got into threading, things like their memory controller held them back

[magic river]

A Zen3 SoC might have a TDP of 15W but in reality it'll use basically however much you allow it before it hits thermal limits

[golden gust]

which, iirc was one of the biggest improvements in the "AMD revival" is that they basically replaced their controller

[spring mango]

for what cpu?

[golden gust]

pre ryzen or zen, idk

and, for a part, still ryzen

[magic river]

Zen 1 had a shit memory controller

Zen+ mostly fixed it iirc, Zen 2 definitely did

[spring mango]

lets be honest. anything below zen+ is bad

[golden gust]

iirc, ram speed matters MUCH more on AMD chips than it does intel ones

[magic river]

Yeah, I think that's still true

But it's not as wide of a swing as it was with Zen 1

Zen 1 went from trash to amazing depending on RAM speed and timings

Zen+ and on go from good to amazing

[spring mango]

my laptop has lpddr4 4266, dunno how it is compared so ddr4 3200

i heard there is more latency due to a cut of bandwith available in lpddr4

[magic river]

Oh, The Tomorrow Children was a relatively simple game, geometrically

The scenes are usually pretty simple and either you can't see very far or there isn't much to see

That's how they pulled off doing all their lighting purely with GI

Ah, but they don't even do that, only really close stuff uses GI, the rest uses baked light maps

Err, not baked, they were at some point rendered using this technique, just not updated every frame

[worn crest]

Snapshot day 😋

[vernal moth]

https://youtu.be/DNJXkcQxXEg

About godots new 3d GI stuff

For something that once was only usable for 2d at all, having such a nice 3d renderer which such powerful tools, where the dev needs to do basically nothing and it just works, even on giant regions, is amazing

And it runs even on low end hardware

[lavish compass]

Quite impressive how far godot has come

considering it's like one of the actually FOSS game engines

[vernal moth]

yep

it will replace unity eventually

and then we got one high end engine (unreal) and one for the indies (godot) and the world will be a happy place

[lavish compass]

Until epic games sue godot

[vernal moth]

epic games funds godot

[magic river]

Wasn't that a one-off grant?

[vernal moth]

still funding, lol

[lavish compass]

really? that's news to me

[magic river]

I mean, if they're in Latin America, willing to work cheap on a passion project, and it's only going to one person that grant was enough to keep them going for a few years so I guess...

[vernal moth]

its more than one person

and its not the only grand

[magic river]

$250k in 2020

[vernal moth]

firefox, facebook, etc all provide funding

13k per month on patreon alone

I think juan + 4 others work full time on it?

[magic river]

Microsoft and Mozilla were also one-off grants

$20,000 from Mozilla and $24,000 from Microsoft

Microsoft's funding was for adding C# and then Epic's was to improve GDScript so you don't have to use C# 😄

[vernal moth]

mozilla was for web export, facebook funds the XR stuff for two years now I think?

[magic river]

Mozilla's was for WebAssembly, WebSockets, and WebGL support

So yeah, I guess "web export" would probably cover that

[vernal moth]

with the mozilla money they made the godot editor run in the browser

godot also got 100k from some web3 company, lmao

beggas can't be choosers I guess

[turbid oar]

Out of luck

Mostly and skill

[analog viper]

any one know hot to disable crystal explosion block damage but i still need damage

player damage

[ashen cliff]

Maybe WorldGuard?

[analog viper]

nha worldguard just remove the endcrytal i need players get dammage

[analog viper]

nop

[viral hornet]

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/QqYqRbZ.png

thanks?

but I kinda like my JIT could you not disable it please?

[ashen cliff]

Add more cache bro.

[vernal moth]

I need to restart my PC anyways I guess

wsl go brrrrrr

https://i.imgur.com/zYyKcCv.png

[ashen cliff]

You need more ram brother.

[vernal moth]

nah, one restart every two weeks I can live with 😄

[ashen cliff]

Add more ram and make it 4.

I think I have a bit spare: https://posili.me/i/CTNG7C3h-2022-03-16_13-43-37.png

[wide chasm]

I'm still not used to people leaving their pcs on for multiple days, I shut mine down each day before going to bed.

[vernal moth]

I only hibernate

so that I can quickly pick up

but ye I am not having it eat power all night, dw

[wide chasm]

I don't even put it in hibernate, I shut it down completely

[vernal moth]

starting intellij and all the run configs and the docker containers and shit would just be too much of a hassle and give me more reason not to work

I need to eliminate as much escuses as possible, lol

[left swift]

only can spare a few GB at most dont want to choke the OS

[ashen cliff]

People who can't read?

[quick pasture]

easily xd i only shut down for software updates

[vernal moth]

am going insane here. am helping a coworker who managed our contractors. they were tasked with "hey, look at those two apps, now build similar apps for those 2 products", something that would take me, idk, 2 weeks. they took way longer of course, but delivered something, even works in our dev after some small changes. now we want to release it, so we moving to staging, suddenly nothing works.
turns out, they hardcoded a parameter called "ClientURL" which is used to find out where the app is embedded, to configure different rabats and settings. when confronted they said "this parameter seems mandatory, so we hardcoded it. now we have a problem, I see two solutions, 1) you make the param no longer mandatory, or 2) you make the service accept some global value (not nice)"

I cant even

ClientURL = window.location.href btw

I wish my arm was long enough so I could punch them in the face in turkey from the comfort of my office

[golden gust]

wat in the o.O

[vernal moth]

nearshoring, wooooo

its like, if they would spend one second actually thinking and looking at the legacy app

mmmmmh

idk where client url could possibly come from

must be a constant

lets hard code it to the test env 🤡

just so that you can all suffer too, I broke the session servers https://twitter.com/MojangStatus/status/1504087768238014464

Mojang Status (@MojangStatus)

Some Minecraft services are unavailable at the moment. We are looking into the issue. - Martin

Twitter · Mar 16, 2022, 1:30 PM

[golden gust]

You know, many times, I suffer from imposter syndrome

but, it's weird

cos there'll always be devs out there who are successful who do dum stuff

[vernal moth]

am so lucky they not on my team, lol

contractors am allowed to shit on

but imagine working with somebody like that

and like, this isn't even the worst, this is just near shorting, they speak german, etc

now imagine working with indians or whatever, I know way worse stories from actual offshoring to asia

[hard lintel]

Just wondering, when was PaperSpigot renamed to PaperMC ?

[vernal moth]

I wanna say 6 years ago?

[golden gust]

1.9

[vernal moth]

woo I was right

[hard lintel]

Ok, thanks :D

yeah haha
Had to google when 1.9 came out xD

time flies

[quiet mesa]

many time

[golden gust]

hey, mini

ur an old fuck

[vernal moth]

ur older

[left swift]

old

u can pay me to do the work mini

I'll just email pokimane gifs to your clients

and coworkers

[ashen cliff]

Send that offline mode bingo.

[candid jetty]

anyone able to join mc servers?

[quiet mesa]

.

[candid jetty]

ahh sorry it just happened for me

[little frost]

that was a joke, right? o_o

[vernal moth]

I would have if I could!

[ashen cliff]

The comments tho.

[wide chasm]

It's Twitter, can't expect much

[vernal moth]

no, its minecraft players

[golden gust]

on twitter

it's like, the bottom of the barrel

reminds me of like, the fish sandwich at mcdonalds

[vernal moth]

its really not, try opening the minecraft discord 😄

[little frost]

oh god

[golden gust]

you know that when somebody orders it, the staff get annoyed as they gotta go scrape one from the fridge

[left swift]

mcrib is trash

[wide chasm]

Minecraft players on Twitter is quite cursed

[pastel reef]

What's wrong with minecraft.net?

[vernal moth]

^

[pastel reef]

Come on, I was just gonna download Minecraft on my new Computer :(

[twin lagoon]

https://twitter.com/omgubuntu/status/1504114710270128135 looks scuffed

omg! ubuntu! (@omgubuntu)

Ubuntu Has a Brand New Logo https://t.co/NbZasyHf51 https://t.co/iQxh80Wb8Q

Twitter · Mar 16, 2022, 3:17 PM

[vernal moth]

I actually like the firefox logo from 2017 the most

[ashen cliff]

Can be used on any planet at least.

[spare venture]

i hate apartment hunting

i’ve found that places are going before i can even visit so i have to put in an application on a place i haven’t even seen

[tropic flame]

finally a Firefox logo degeneration meme that shows that logo from 2013

every single one skips it

that's the best one imo

not too detailed, not too minimal

[ashen cliff]

Don't look at the 2004 logo then.

[tropic flame]

so, a minecraft banner?

[tropic flame]

i mean

pre-1.0 is 🔥

as for the other ones, i don't like the light they added over the globe

[spare venture]

rising sea levels in the logo i see

[ashen cliff]

Nah. They just removed Greenland and added France.

[left swift]

in spirit mini is a mojang dev

but in reality hes a drunk piano man

[neon bramble]

Not sure whether that's good or bad

[wide chasm]

Depends on how much beer they give him.

[hexed dragon]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-22w11a

[vernal moth]

ayyyy

[left swift]

thanks for the snapshot mini

that makes up for you turning off session servers

[vernal moth]

3d audio is cool

[twin lagoon]

3d audio, interesting

didn't we already have directional audio

[vernal moth]

World presets/types and flat world presets in “Create World” screen can now be controlled by datapacks

hey I was right

new shit for resouce pack fonts 😮

[twin lagoon]

space-like glyphs heh

pack filters wot

[peak ginkgo]

World presets can also be used as a value of level-type in server.properties

nice

[vernal moth]

ye that can bring that back now that its exposed to datapacks

which is fun cause even more people will want to use datapack worlds now

further showing the need for machine makers somewhat controversial PR

[wet storm]

yyoooo

[peak ginkgo]

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-109055

hahahaha they fixed this

[dense holly]

Minecraft icon on MacOS is not showing correct icon
oh, finally

MC-248936

[ashen cliff]

3D DIRECTIONAL AUDIO

Yes.

Thank you Mojang.

https://posili.me/i/BwfheJhG-2022-03-16_17-57-33.png

[void void]

how stable is paper 1.18.2

[vernal moth]

more stable than .1 I would say

[green edge]

If your microsoft account is inactive can you connect to your minecraft account?

[ashen cliff]

Nope. Had to unlock it.

[twin lagoon]

there's a loading screen for the Create New World menu

what a time to be alive

[ashen cliff]

The GPU% do be borked with SLI: https://posili.me/i/xysY6zUV-2022-03-16_18-03-39.png

[left swift]

wtf is this sentence

how many beers are you in

[vernal moth]

replace a that of your choice with a they

I was grocery shopping, lol

[mental meadow]

ye that can bring that back now they its exposed to datapacks

[brazen token]

I never realized just how weird leashes could be.
Apparently, mobs can be leashed to any entity in the game except for lightning and fishing lures

[neon bramble]

which one?

[vernal moth]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/7594

[neon bramble]

Only seeing that screams controversial

oh god I see now

If I understand correctly, would this mean merging overworld, nether and end into one folder?

[unkempt drift]

yeah, it goes back to the vanilla world format (but adding level.dat for each world)

there's only 1 level.dat in vanilla. even with custom dimensions and everything

[neon bramble]

TIL that notchian server doesn't separate these too

what the hell were bukkit developers thinking?

[unkempt drift]

well craftbukkit added multiworld support before mojang did

[neon bramble]

did they?

[unkempt drift]

yeah

notch supposedly said "its impossible to add multiworld support" but they did it anyways

[neon bramble]

"its impossible to add multiworld support" - ngl, that sounds like "we are too lazy to add multiworld support"

[unkempt drift]

well, anyway, upstreams attempt to maintain that not great format has led to... https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1228900/158216761-23ee7132-affa-4bcc-8c42-573b2c34eadb.png

and that whole folder structure will be duplicated for each custom dimension

[neon bramble]

I mean, not like you are going to have many dimensions for a single world

But I can see the issue

[unkempt drift]

well those are all separate worlds

craftbukkit removes that distinction

where as vanilla has 1 world with 3 dimensions, craftbukkit says those are 3 worlds

[neon bramble]

oh I see, so they just duplicated the world for each dimension, in order for multiworlds to function?

[unkempt drift]

im not sure exactly what the original change was, I wasn't around back then. but that something like that

[neon bramble]

"craftbukkit says those are 3 worlds" doesn't this slow down loading/generating worlds a lot?

[neon bramble]

Me neither

[unkempt drift]

I mean each dimension still has to load and generate in vanilla

and in vanilla, each dimension has its own region folder with the .mca files in it, and what not

BUT they all shared a level.dat file.

and tbh, a lot of the settings in level.dat can be per-world/dimension

[little frost]

exactly how "its impossible to add dimension support to multiplayer"

[neon bramble]

freely translated: "we are too lazy to do it, we will say it's impossible so people stop complaining"

[visual creek]

Hey, does anyone know how servers do it where they put discord or help command guis on the left or right of the inventory? Im guessing its by retextureing the potion effect gui, but how do you do multiple diffrent ones? Thanks

[void void]

a resourcepack and custom font

[visual creek]

oh ok, how do they hide the duration

just font

and lastly, how do they get it to be on both sides of the gui, since potion effects only go on the left

mineclub

its a server resource pack

so its like not viewable. is there a way to unpack it

oh cool

is it a program

or what

oh wait, you can just rename to .zip

awesome, tysm

it just says its empty

[vestal jasper]

Or tell 7zip to open it without renaming

Let's you do that

[visual creek]

we use packsquash as well, but it let me open mine fine

[warm anchor]

[visual creek]

i will mess with it, thanks guys

[visual creek]

what option, it always just says "not an archive"

[vestal jasper]

If it's a valid archive you should be able to just right click open with 7zip

I've yet to have issues with that so I'm not sure

[visual creek]

just right click > 7-zip > open archive?

on the base file

no renames

[vestal jasper]

Yeah that's what I usually do

[visual creek]

hmm, no it just says cannot open file as archive

[real saddle]

LTS GOOOO wild update snap shot

[void void]

can i hear some opinions on vulcan

and if you think is better than x11 how can i change (pop os)

[magic river]

Vulcan is a planet in the Star Trek universe

[void void]

running nvidia geforce gtx 1050ti

[magic river]

Vulkan is a low level graphics API comparable to D3D12 or, kind of, Metal

Neither is an alternative to X11

[limpid knot]

in the field i was selling icarly

[waxen panther]

in the field i was selling icarly

[limpid knot]

then I got a 3700x

[magic river]

Wayland is an alternative to X11, kind of

[limpid knot]

and started playing Minecraft again

[void void]

is it better than x11

[vestal jasper]

in the field i was selling icarly

[limpid knot]

did destiny release new dlc or something, i thought it was completely dead then a lot of ppl started playing it again

[limpid knot]

wow

[magic river]

It wouldn't be newer than X11 and exist if it wasn't better 😛

[waxen panther]

very big dlc came out a few weeks ago yeah

[magic river]

Although it's probably not better in a way you really care about

[waxen panther]

game always dies between the big dlc releases

[frank otter]

isn't wayland that thing that's supposed to be up and coming but it's rarely used and like is it widely supported?

[magic river]

Fedora and Ubuntu default to wayland

[tropic flame]

Wayland is that thing that forces you to run a compositor with no way to turn it off, yes

[magic river]

Unless you have nvidia

X11 is a compositor, surprise!

[void void]

no joke we have a streamer who's got 6 monitors 2 computers setup for like 65k leva just to stream and play minecraft

[magic river]

Well, Xorg is, X11 is a protocol

[limpid knot]

wow

[void void]

@magic river i dont understand why nvidia's being the bitch here about drivers

[limpid knot]

nvidia still has shit driver support on linux after like many years

i just say wow

[magic river]

nvidia would tell you they have the best driver support on Linux 😛

[void void]

for real stuff is getting there. slowly but it's getting there

[magic river]

If you're doing CUDA/ML stuff they're right

[vestal jasper]

And everyone disagreed with them

Almost everyone

[void void]

so can i wayland with geforce gtx 1050ti

anyone had experience with wayland & nvidia?

[magic river]

If you're trying to use a normal desktop and/or want to play games you are not their target audience, they throw you a bone every so often so they don't end up completely isolated

I don't remember if 1000 series was the cut off or 2000 series

You have to run the very latest nvidia driver and the very latest graphics stack and GNOME

[tropic flame]

gnome

[void void]

im not playing games that much, sometimes i launch cs 1.6 or csgo and minecraft. that's basically it. even though i have ats and ets2 and gta v haven't tried playing them yet

[magic river]

Although GNOME actually kind of worked with nvidia's alternative to doing wayland which works on older drivers

[void void]

i have version 510 if im not wrong

[waxen panther]

i'd like to use wayland but idek how to use my computer anymore without bspwm

[visual creek]

so i can change the main icon, like the home icon in the ss, but it only can be a small square. How would that texture change something on the other side of the box

if i make the texture larger will it render

or will it just cut it off

[real saddle]

im playing gta 5 with my potato pc with 8gb ram intelhd 620 128mb vram i37020u with 30+fps

[visual creek]

no, it just cuts it off so it has to be the size of the square 😦

[void void]

@magic river what distro would you suggest for me? as I said I'm sometimes doing csgo, cs 1.6 and minecraft, I am an average java programmer. I want the ram usage to be as low as possible because I have 8 GBs

[magic river]

Fedora

[visual creek]

and if i customize the font its the same thing, just limited to a tiny little square

[void void]

more info?

[magic river]

Although if you go with Arch a bunch of people in here will meme about it and maybe even know how to help you when it goes horribly wrong

[visual creek]

like if i customi this its gunna have to be tiny, what does that get me

[magic river]

(I don't use Arch)

[void void]

i really wanna go arch but pacman 🤮

i am not the average linux newbie (linus from linustechtips), i consider myself a semi power user

but i dont want to mess with a bunch of shit

i want something fast, reliable, doesn't break when i install steam, which also has a low ram usage

[magic river]

That's basically everything

Pick a distro, any distro

[snow sonnet]

I'm looking for somebody who knows Java and the various minecraft libs and wants to do some contract work for hire. Just to kickstart some efforts I have going. DM me if interested.

[tropic flame]

if you want low ram usage you don't pick just any distro

GNOME will fuck you up

[lavish compass]

what's wrong with pacman

[vestal jasper]

Pacman and arch's docs are a godsend

[magic river]

If you aren't going to use GNOME or KDE you should know enough to not have to ask any of these questions

[void void]

yes gnome is currently fucking me but when I tried KDE for me it's a piece of menus where you can't find shit

[magic river]

So your choices are GNOME or KDE

[lavish compass]

naaaah bro dwm

[magic river]

Well, or Cinnamon

[tropic flame]

try LXQt, it was literally meant for low-end hardware

[neon bramble]

Unfortunately, very broken in most DE's

Especially on Nvidia

[magic river]

"most DEs"

[tropic flame]

can't go more lightweight than LXQt unless you want to sacrifice functionality

[magic river]

There are two DEs, basically 😛

[void void]

cinnamon looks an interesting concept but the looks are just not for me

[neon bramble]

Well KDE, Gnome, XFCE, LXDE, Cinnamon are the 5 ones I can say from memory

There are way more

[lavish compass]

what about Cinnamon, Mate, Xfce, (lists 100 other..)

[tropic flame]

LXDE is now LXQt btw

[neon bramble]

Is it?

[magic river]

MATE is old GNOME, Cinnamon is tweaked GNOME, Elementary is tweaked GNOME, there is KDE, and the rest are either dead or some cobbled together thing that I don't really think counts

[neon bramble]

I use KDE so I don't really care

[magic river]

XFCE is basically dead

[neon bramble]

But KDE is really broken with wayland, especially on nvidia

[void void]

interesting. can you please show me this religion

[tropic flame]

I mean, supposedly LXDE would still be continued but a huge part of the devs moved onto LXQt because GTK 2 lost support and GTK 3+ sucks for making a lightweight DE according to them

so they switched to using Qt

[lavish compass]

qubes os still uses xfce

[neon bramble]

I've tried a few months ago, and well this was the result

[void void]

ok why is nvidia the bitch of linux????? I don't understand why nvidia is acting dogshit

[magic river]

Last time I looked at LXQt it was just a bunch of random projects someone was trying to mash into a "DE" but in my view a DE should be something created by the same team and use the same coding and UI standards, configuration systems, etc

[tropic flame]

well, you can install it and see how it works for you, Lubuntu uses it as its main DE too

I'd say it's pretty fine out of the box

[void void]

got me there

[neon bramble]

it was completely broken

it seemed to work only when I was actively moving mouse

and it took more than half a minute to load

[void void]

will it work for pop os

[vernal moth]

why waste extra engineering time on something only a really small proportion of your users use?

[neon bramble]

Then make it open source then, community will do the rest.

[magic river]

For a lot of these alternatives they're only "lightweight" because they're old as fuck

[tropic flame]

I don't see why not, you should be able to install it through the package manager

[neon bramble]

Great example: AMD drivers

[void void]

that's the main problem. companies don't recognize linux because the use share is not as big. but it's not as big because there aren't drivers and programs. that's a infinite loophole

[vestal jasper]

If installing Nvidia drivers on Linux wasn't such a fucking pain in the ass I'm sure more people would do so

[lavish compass]

Manjaro 🤮

[magic river]

The community doesn't do a ton of AMD driver work

Like 90% of it is done by AMD

The other 10% is people Valve pays to do it

[neon bramble]

I mean, installing them is fine on some distros

[lavish compass]

I would guess that is because it works well enough

[neon bramble]

true tho

[magic river]

Well, okay, that's a bit much, RedHat is in there too

[lavish compass]

I can guarantee that if Nvidias driver become open source, people will start contributing

[magic river]

They can't open source their current driver

[void void]

yes but dogshit nvidia won't make them open source because "nvidia best GPU's ever"

[magic river]

You're asking them to make a new driver from scratch in Mesa

[wet storm]

So I use CentOS stream and AMD graphic card

[lavish compass]

what's the reason behind this?

[magic river]

Current driver is a mess, guaranteed

[neon bramble]

I see a lot of people shitting on Manjaro, but these are the only points I've seen brought up:

• Pamac is shit (I don't use it)
• They SSL certificate expired twice (idc tbh)
• Delaying packages breaks stuff (I have unstable mirror, synced 2-3 times per day, no delay for me)

[tropic flame]

licensing and patents they don't own, probably

[magic river]

And bits of it come from others

[tropic flame]

just have the rights to use

[magic river]

And bits of it are copied out of video games so when they see that game they can inject their modified version in to make the game work

[lavish compass]

What I dislike about Manjaro is how messy it is compared to archs official repos

[neon bramble]

I just feel bad for nouveau drivers devs

[neon bramble]

Define messy

[tropic flame]

bruh? why

it should be on the videogame devs to code according to whatever graphics API they chose

[magic river]

Gamedevs, in general, don't know how to program a GPU

[lavish compass]

they tried to make rolling release versioned somehow

[magic river]

They do the dumbest shit

[neon bramble]

I've had only issue once, which was caused by AUR package depending on a thing that was hold back by manjaro (you know, the week period).
So I switched to unstable, solved all isues.

[void void]

ok im installing lxqt let's see what will happen

[lavish compass]

from my experience using both, Manjaro has been a pain installing packages

[magic river]

They either do outright broken things or they do very inefficient things

[wet storm]

Wtf, how?

[magic river]

Then the drivers patch them up

Look at Elden Ring

[lavish compass]

doesn't that defeat the point of manjaro? like apart from the "easier" UX

[void void]

@tropic flame now what? I shall log out from gnome and im in lxqt??

[magic river]

Documentation says "allocate as many of these as you'll need up front then reuse them", Elden Ring allocates a new one every frame

[lavish compass]

quality software

[tropic flame]

uh, yeah it should allow you to switch between DEs

[lavish compass]

I like how proton actually made elden ring playable

[neon bramble]

"apart from the "easier" UX" and that's the thing I love about it
Installing nvidia drivers was a one button click thing.
Upgrading kernel is the same.

And the fact that it just works

is great

[magic river]

The "driver", in this case DXVK, added a cache so when the game frees one of them the driver holds on to it then just gives the game that one back next frame

[neon bramble]

I've deleted pamac, using yay ATM

[lavish compass]

installing nvidia driver manually isn't that much harder but fair point i guess

[neon bramble]

Lol not really, the hard part isn't installing them, but installing them in a way so they update automatically without issue

[lavish compass]

I have barely had any issues with that

[neon bramble]

[wet storm]

What do you think about BSD OS family?

[lavish compass]

I usually use nvidia-dkms on arch

[void void]

lxqt looks very nice tbh

[lavish compass]

with the lts kernel

[void void]

but i miss the super + /from pop-desktop

[lavish compass]

what does that do

[void void]

opens a search panel

ok now i have to install bulgarian keyboard :nokek:

[magic river]

The BSDs were neat in the 90s

[lavish compass]

you can bind keybinds as you like on gnome

[neon bramble]

Also, I've bought myself a manjaro keycap, to free myself from windows.
Now I cant distro hop

[magic river]

They might have still made sense even 15 years ago

[lavish compass]

plus pop os extensions are open source anyways

[twin lagoon]

manjaro has had it's fair share of controversies

[magic river]

Now I'd consider them a toy like Haiku except maybe for a NAS

[neon bramble]

I was afraid it wouldn't fit well, considering I have a cheap cherry mx clone. But it fits perfectly in line

[neon bramble]

true

[magic river]

But even then OpenZFS works on Linux it's just built in to FreeBSD

[lavish compass]

Michael 🥺

[twin lagoon]

henlo

[worn ember]

😴

[lavish compass]

@warm anchor weeb?

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor fucking weeb

[vestal jasper]

@twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

@vestal jasper uwu

[neon bramble]

😳

[void void]

snug

[void void]

hippo!

[neon bramble]

oh no...

[lavish compass]

but remember kids

Excessive gaming may interfere with normal daily life

[void void]

🍉

for hippo

[neon bramble]

I've bought a 3080 and I only very occasionally play factorio and minecraft on it

I feel like I wasted my money

[void void]

how can i set keybinds on lxqt @tropic flame cant find shit about it

[wet storm]

I was interested in DragonFlyBSD, but I couldn't install it, because its installation was hellish...

[void void]

searching settings but can only find session settings which has startup programs and shit like that

[warm anchor]

@lavish compass @twin lagoon

[magic river]

Oh if you're trying to do custom keybinds you probably want to stay away from wayland 🙂

[neon bramble]

why the hell wouldn't that work on wayland?

[twin lagoon]

wayland works fine

[neon bramble]

not on nvidia + KDE

or at least didn't far months ago

[twin lagoon]

nothing works on nvidia

[neon bramble]

There have been 2 driver releases since then

[lavish compass]

nvidia doesn't work*

[neon bramble]

I've heard Nvidia is trying to do something with wayland

[wet storm]

Btw, what's wrong with wayland, why I can't stream my full screen in any application?

[twin lagoon]

okay now that is a wayland moment

[tropic flame]

I'll actually be honest, i have no idea

[twin lagoon]

wayland is a bit more secure by design

[lavish compass]

you should ship that card to me so i can edit and color grade 4k video for a school project

[lavish compass]

you can

[void void]

found it

[lavish compass]

using xdg-portal

[neon bramble]

I was planning on buying an AMD GPU, but I've got a good deal on nvidia year in the GPU shortage so I've gone with it

[magic river]

I just don't even try to run Linux on my desktop, makes all of that a lot simpler 😛

Although my next one might be running Linux, kind of

[neon bramble]

Why not?

[twin lagoon]

WSL

[magic river]

If I end up going with an Intel CPU then I should be able to have it boot Linux then run a VM that I give my 3070 to so it can run Windows full speed

More or less

[lavish compass]

my desktop has a nvidia card (gtx 1070) running fedora + gnome (xorg) fine

[neon bramble]

Never managed to get it working properly

[magic river]

But then I can still have a Linux server environment

[twin lagoon]

haven't had many issues with windows since i got a new pc

and been on the wsl train since

[magic river]

Although more likely I'll just keep my current computer and make it a server/NAS

[lavish compass]

I personally like running linux natively more

[neon bramble]

^

[twin lagoon]

too much effort for games

[lavish compass]

compiling stuff is comparably faster

[neon bramble]

except not at all

lutris does magic

[twin lagoon]

remind me how i can run apex legends on linux

[lavish compass]

you can

[twin lagoon]

or insert any other easyanticheat / proton game

[lavish compass]

with EAC

[twin lagoon]

actually that argument is not that valid anymore with the recent anticheat changes

[magic river]

My laptop is Linux (because I didn't want to buy the shit Apple was trying to sell in 2020) but only because I made sure to get a laptop that didn't have a dedicated GPU

[twin lagoon]

but it'll probably still be valid for some anticheat games

[lavish compass]

fortnite?

[neon bramble]

Works fine

[twin lagoon]

look i just want my games to work

[neon bramble]

Apex is one of the few EAC games that work fine in proton

[magic river]

EAC doesn't automatically work with Proton, it has to be something the gamedev enables

[twin lagoon]

if it fails because of my operating system it has already ruined the point

[lavish compass]

but anyhow I would avoid running games with intrusive AC on my system

[magic river]

And probably fails if you run your own build of proton

[neon bramble]

Actually apex is even verified to run nice on steam deck

[lavish compass]

we know that

[magic river]

So you don't play any multiplayer games? 😄

[twin lagoon]

yeah that's pretty much every AAA multiplayer game summed up

[lavish compass]

I fly around in Minecraft and stare at graphs, yes?

[magic river]

EVE doesn't have any anticheat?

[lavish compass]

well if I do some casual gaming, I would use cloud gaming

[twin lagoon]

latency

[neon bramble]

the only multiplayer games I play are:
Minecraft
Factorio
Borderlands

That's it

[void void]

u work?

[neon bramble]

?

[void void]

u bought a thing

[lavish compass]

Latency is an issue but I would rather accept that over having EAC, BattlEye, Vanguard, MiHoyo Protect, or what the fuck ever on my machine

[neon bramble]

Fun story
borderlands 2 gave me 100-150FPS on win
on linux + proton it gave me 300-400FPS

[twin lagoon]

i don't care too much about intrusive anticheats tbh i'm just a number for them

[neon bramble]

a very common thing with games on linux is, that native port runs worse, than windows port in proton

[twin lagoon]

just let me play the game aslong as it doesn't fuck with my applications

throwback to when csgo would refuse to launch with afterburner

[lavish compass]

lmao what

[neon bramble]

oof

[twin lagoon]

it works fine now

[lavish compass]

CS uses VAC right

[neon bramble]

should

[twin lagoon]

yes but they introduced a new thing to VAC a while ago

[neon bramble]

no afterburner on linux -> no issue

[twin lagoon]

https://www.dexerto.com/csgo/valve-reveal-new-csgo-anti-cheat-measures-to-combat-hackers-1385306/

[lavish compass]

Imagine how hilarious it would be if a kernel privilege escalation was found in one of the ring0 acs

[twin lagoon]

yeah but who the fuck cares

they're not going to use it against anyone

[neon bramble]

you never know

[lavish compass]

not talking about the ac makers themselves

but other locally running applications

[neon bramble]

but if you run windows, you have a backdoor in your PC anyway

[lavish compass]

utilizing the AC to escalate perms

[neon bramble]

so it should be no issue to you

[twin lagoon]

look presumably there's a backdoor in the intel management engine

and presumably there's backdoors in your phone

there's worse things to worry about in life

[neon bramble]

I use AMD

[neon bramble]

well sucks

[twin lagoon]

i'm sure AMD has something at that point aswell just wait until someone reveals it

[neon bramble]

Winnie the Pooh now knows my pics

[magic river]

AMD has their own ME

[neon bramble]

yeah

[magic river]

PSP, I think it's called

[worn ember]

there have been exploits in them though maybe the company implementing them wont abuse it but people who can most definitely will

[neon bramble]

pro tip: play old boomer games

[worn ember]

only good games are old anyway

[neon bramble]

true

The newest game I like is 2018

Nothing newer since then

smh it is 4 years since 2018

[worn ember]

i like some indie games but havent played a tripple A game since 2015 or something

[neon bramble]

Do you play factorio?

[worn ember]

could never really get into it

but i have played it yeah

[neon bramble]

yeah, it has pretty specific playerbase

[worn ember]

i also played satisfactory, also wasn't that great hah

[neon bramble]

I tried satisfactory but it wasn't nearly as great as Factorio

Especially, the optimization sucked when compared to factorio

[worn ember]

well yeah

3D vs 2D

[neon bramble]

that's the issue with satisfactory

you must expect people to build huge factories

[worn ember]

yeah hate not having an overview

[neon bramble]

and current hardware just doesn't allow that in 3D

[worn ember]

have you played DSP?

[neon bramble]

acronym stands for... ?

[worn ember]

Dyson Sphere Program

they do it really well

[neon bramble]

Oh I've been planning to play that for a long while now

[magic river]

The indispensable head of QA at my company died of a heart attack after working 100 hour weeks for years, they did not replace him.

[worn ember]

hmmm

[neon bramble]

100 hour weeks for years WHAT?

eew

that doesn't even leave you 6 hours for sleeping

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/d6xHlPki-jE this trailer is really good

[neon bramble]

the thing I hate about satisfactory is the lack of bird view

This seems to solve it very well

[worn ember]

yeah same

the game is actually very optimized for its scale and i love it

[neon bramble]

might try it some time

[void void]

@tropic flame ok im into that shit this looks amazing i now have discord and firefox open and its only using 2 gbs

whilst gnome was using atleast 3

[neon bramble]

GNME

[tropic flame]

I'm glad you like it

[void void]

the only problem i have is the search bar in the middle of the screen but ill get used to looking at the bottom right and deleting the shit i previously typed into the search

[neon bramble]

can't you change that?

[void void]

searching on how to change it

[neon bramble]

what are you using?

[tropic flame]

it's been 17 years and GNOME's file picker doesn't have thumbnail view (Windows XP had it, for comparison) - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/233
blurry text? it's not a bug, it's a change in the rendering. who made you think sharpness is a metric? - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/3787
inactive process idling on 1GB+ ram in the background? just kill it if you don't like it lol - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/942
why would you want a volume slider... in a music player app?? are you crazy?! - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-music/-/issues/343
want to search for files with spaces? you can't, sorry - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/616

my usual GNOME slander summed up

[neon bramble]

like for real

imagine using gnome

[tropic flame]

these are issues that have been open for years btw it's not like I'm bashing on month old reports

especially the first one... 17 years

[magic river]

I don't think GNOME Music is actually a part of the GNOME desktop, they have a bunch of addon things like that

[void void]

now i have a bunch of packages :/

can i get rid of most gnome shit

[magic river]

Their argument against a volume slider there appears to be that the GNOME UI should work like the Android one where you have volume sliders for "media", "notifications", etc

[neon bramble]

very naive

[magic river]

Thumbnails in file chooser is basically just no one has done the work, PRs welcome

The text isn't blurry if you use a hidpi display

[neon bramble]

[tropic flame]

android's approach kind of sucks if you want to lower the volume of a particular app and that app itself won't let you though

i wish discord would let me lower the volume of screenshares while letting me have the call volume high, but instead it just shoves everything into Android's call channel and "fuck you"

want to lower volume? lower everything, you dum

sucks

[magic river]

The gnome-software thing seems like they didn't want to rely on systemd but also appears to just be waiting for someone to do the work

[neon bramble]

Just don't use gnome