general

[wide chasm]

I personally don't have VSC installed, since the only misc files I generally edit are some .yml files for which Notepad++ suffices.

[golden gust]

vim ❤️

[magic river]

code foo has replaced vim foo whenever it's some source code I want to explore instead of a config file where I know what I want to change

[plucky sparrow]

Yeah I’ve been considering switching to something simpler such as atom instead of vsc

[golden gust]

I still have a bit of a love hate relationship with vsc

atom

Bro.

[tropic flame]

VSC ends up being the most lightweight alternative while still providing me an interface so i use it for everything

miscellaneous files are edited with Notepad++ tho

[wet storm]

I use vscode as a notebook for writing philosophical texts... and some projects goals, plans etc.

[golden gust]

This one time, I loaded a file with atom

I got bored of waiting, fired up a terminal, cd'd to the folder manually

opened the file with vim

made my save

started a build

then atom loaded the project

[plucky sparrow]

jeez

[wide chasm]

I imagine cat is someone who uses relative line numbers as well 😉

[tropic flame]

oh yeah Atom is a hog

[golden gust]

nah, I mean

I couldn't even get plugins to work in vim

It's just a bit nicer than nano to work with, and, well, not emacs

[plucky sparrow]

vim looks like a nightmare

[golden gust]

emacs, lol

emacs is a really great desktop environment in need of a better text editor

[plucky sparrow]

I actually found out about micro not so long ago and I quite like it

[wide chasm]

I saw a video of a lecturer and he programmed in Vim, with relative file numbers, line and column percentages and occasionally he'd type some combination of malbolge and regex to jump to a line a couple lines below. I've never been the same person since.

[golden gust]

lol

I mean, I try to adopt some of the tricks but, I mean, it feels like unless you're using that tool 24/7, it just doesn't stick

Like,last "massive productivety" boost I had from a simple tweak in an IDE was disabling tabs in my IDE

[worn ember]

i mean

[golden gust]

i mean, your moms a hoe

[worn ember]

[wide chasm]

If you voluntarily do all your programming in Vim, good for you, but please keep a distance of at least an entire neighborhood from me.

[worn ember]

so what do you mean

[wet storm]

I am thinking of trying vim, because I already use many "powers" of standard typing, such as arrows, ins, del, home, end, page up, page down and many hot keys in intellij...

[golden gust]

theres many things that I LOVE about vim

e.g. find & replace using standard sed syntax

But, I mean, remembering all the things is a headache

[tropic flame]

y'all use keyboard shortcuts?

besides very obvious ones like Ctrl-Z/Y for undo/redo and Ctrl-S for saving, i still use my mouse for everything in VSC

[golden gust]

and then theres many plugins which look really interesting but I mean, uuuurgh

when I remember them? yes

[tropic flame]

I mean I've got an interface, might as well make full use of it

[worn ember]

i use alt+insert a lot ctrl+shift+l mostly

[golden gust]

There are often IDE plugins which can shout at you for using the mouse, I have one on IJ which shouts at me often

[wide chasm]

I use the most important shortcut, Ctrl+Shift+Alt+Insert for creating a new scratch file /s

[golden gust]

IJ does have some critical plugins that you need for it to be a useful environment, however

nyan progress bars, for one

[void void]

its bad to use the mouse?

[golden gust]

It's a context switch

your mouse is a slower interface than your keyboard

and then you've got the fact that you've gotta reposition your hands to switch between them

[wide chasm]

But Ctrl+K and Ctrl+Shift+K for committing and subsequent pushing are ones I use frequently. Also Ctrl+Shift+A for finding where something is.

[golden gust]

doing that switch, especially often, is a productivety hit

[void void]

true

[wet storm]

I also noticed that I rarely use mouse recently, my hands prob learned some combinations of arrows with home and end or idk...

[golden gust]

Like, I say about disabling tabs somewhat often in this convos, but, like, doing that made me switch to using recents/find more often, which is much faster

tis my typical IDE view, outside of the terminal being larger than usual

[wide chasm]

Terminal and gradle view are disabled by default for me

[plucky sparrow]

Why is the project structure so big

[charred sleet]

what’s the weird aspect ratio

[plucky sparrow]

^^

[quick obsidian]

the correct ide layout

[golden gust]

I mean, I resize stuff often

Like, that's not full screen

[wet storm]

gradle view is the best thing humanity ever made, It always enabled for me...

[quick obsidian]

i compile so often i leave it open

[wide chasm]

Clearly the best view is the Maven view
runs

[charred sleet]

just don’t write errors 😎

[quick obsidian]

nah

[charred sleet]

meh i use maven it’s pretty standard tho

[quick obsidian]

gradle >>>>>>>>>>>>>

i dont understand the use case for maven anymore

[worn ember]

xml gang

[tropic flame]

Maven is good enough

[quick obsidian]

why settle for good enough

[tropic flame]

I'd rather say the usecase for Gradle is when Maven is not enough

[worn ember]

why bother learning something new

[quick obsidian]

xml is a pain in the ass to read

[wide chasm]

The longer I have been programming, the longer each change seems to take, so I find myself compiling less and less often.

[quick obsidian]

well yeah the longer you've been programming generally the larger projects you end up working on

[tropic flame]

and Kotlin is not?

[quick obsidian]

especially if paperweight is in your toolchain

[tropic flame]

jokes aside, i don't mind the XML

[wet storm]

I test often using gradle panel

[tropic flame]

and it's simpler

[quick obsidian]

i can read kotlin super quickly and easily i never understood people who can't read it

[worn ember]

only issue with xml i have is verbosity but IDE takes care of that so its whatever

[tropic flame]

• every Gradle project out there that I want to compile wants to spawn a 4GB process like I have that much memory available

[plucky sparrow]

gradle does look simpler

[tropic flame]

and there i go, --no-daemon go brrrr

[plucky sparrow]

XML is ugly

[charred sleet]

wut

[wide chasm]

I personally find XML to be a very nice format.

[charred sleet]

it gens like 5 files and some folders

[leaden quiver]

https://discord.com/billing/promotions/tDDz6zVDhEP9RSJDuQ92kh5Y

[charred sleet]

just a pom is nice

[leaden quiver]

A gift 🙃

[plucky sparrow]

but what an ugly pom

[worn ember]

look in the mirror

[quick obsidian]

i know that's a legit domain but i dont trust it

[tropic flame]

Maven just works, Gradle doesn't for my dinosaur machine

that's my reasoning lmfao

[worn ember]

this looks very sus

[quick obsidian]

fair enough that's a valid reason

[wet storm]

moderators anyway should check it

[tropic flame]

it does if I tinker around and change org.gradle.jvmargs flags and stuff like that

[worn ember]

im scared to click ok

[tropic flame]

but if i have to do that for every Gradle project then I'd rather not use it for my own

[leaden quiver]

it was bought for me but it requires a debit card soo i decided to drop it here 😄

[mental meadow]

it's discord.com how bad can it be lol

[worn ember]

if i get my account hijacked you're getting it back

[mental meadow]

ok

prepares ban

[wide chasm]

That's exactly why you should be scared 😄

[plucky sparrow]

you should do it anyway

no one will notice

[worn ember]

it literallymade me login and create a new account??

thanks discord

very nice promotion

[plucky sparrow]

Did it work

[wet storm]

sounds like fishing website

[tropic flame]

fork Maven and make it use HOCON instead

[worn ember]

its literally "claim your account by entering your email and password"

[mental meadow]

very weird

[wet storm]

okay, spam random paswords and logins then

[worn ember]

very sus

[plucky sparrow]

that actually looks nice

I might use it in some project

[worn ember]

[wet storm]

btw, what do you think about Bazel build system?

[magic river]

Way too much process for 99% of things

It can get you the fastest possible builds by caching aggressively but only if you tell it every single input and output from every step of your build process

meson or gradle can get you most of the way there with 10% of the effort

[tropic flame]

it's actually a pog format, it's this middle-term between JSON and YAML, and the Configurate library recognizes comments and lets you programmatically set them

Sponge uses it 😛

[plucky sparrow]

It reminds me of css

I love it

[golden gust]

hocon is basically humanised json

[magic river]

HOCON is what you get when you try to make something that is a superset of properties files and json5 at the same time

[golden gust]

lol

[plucky sparrow]

It looks healthy

[golden gust]

still better than bastardised ini files

(toml..)

[magic river]

It's really like 2 or 3 different formats in the same parser

I think think you can fully mix and match them, you kind of mode switch iirc

[tropic flame]

only less good thing is that I don't see many projects using HOCON, and those that I see are Sponge plugins basically

but that's not a format problem

[magic river]

It's a scala thing

[golden gust]

well, hocon is still kinda new in the scheme of things

[tropic flame]

I say that as more of a... "might not find many libraries for it" problem (Configurate is awesome if you use Java but that's not the only language in the world)

[magic river]

"new"

[wet storm]

If paperweight existed for bazel I'd probably transfered my plugin monorepo to it... It grows with the speed of light

[magic river]

afaik the only implementation is still the scala version written in like 2013

[golden gust]

Well, I mean, in terms of ecosystem growth, not like, first creation

[wet storm]

I like toml format, it looks nice...

[golden gust]

yaml goes back towards 2001

same for json

I mean, I dislike toml

e.g. it doesn't really have proper "nesting"

Like, the way it handles that just looks like a hack

[magic river]

Oh people have ported hocon to Python, Ruby, C++, JS, C#, and Go

Ah, and Rust

[wet storm]

Can someone explain me, what is "mbaxter's-cat-carrier" voice channel?

[true canyon]

HOCON is love. Though I do feel compelled to edit lightbend/config in my projects to require it quoting when serializing configs to avoid confusion since it'll default not quote [a-zA-Z0-9]+ strings which then leads to confusion when the user tries to input something with additional characters.

[true canyon]

Allow me to demonstrate. :3

[void void]

Shouldn't mbaxter's cat be in there then?

[wet storm]

Yeah, that's weird

[true canyon]

No, track where the apostrophe's are.

[glass crag]

do you mean apostrophes 😛

[true canyon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/the-simpsons-woody-allen-a-star-is-burns-AwFSRlPltoOeA

[frank otter]

is that "mbaxter's-(cat-carrier)" or "(mbaxter's-cat)-carrier"

[wet storm]

Sorry for my grammar, I have problems with it, doesn't apostrophe after words means "is" and if a sentence in a "past/present/future perfect" tense it means "has"?

[true canyon]

if the latter it would be better clarified as mbaxter's cat's carrier, which it isn't.

[frank otter]

ah makes sense

[glass crag]

is "cat carrier" "bag you put cat in"

[frank otter]

it's generally to indicate possession iirc

[true canyon]

apostrophe is also a marker of possession. So "Denery's banana" would be described by you as "my banana"

[frank otter]

ie this case means the cat carrier belongs to mbaxter

unfortunately the cat carrier does not seem to have a cat in it

[wet storm]

My brain goes kaboom

[glass crag]

the only conclusion i can come to is mbaxter is a cat

[frank otter]

apostrophes are a pain

generally it's to show omission, as in something has been left out

it it's == it is

the space-i has been omitted

[void void]

humans don't belong (or fit) in cat carriers though

[true canyon]

Says you.

[frank otter]

If its after a noun (not a pronoun iirc) and it is a "'s" it's to show possession

if its after a pronoun it's generally (pronoun) is because there are other pronouns to show possession

[viral hornet]

He's safe and warm in his cat carrier

🥺

[wet storm]

Is his fursona cat? bad joke.

[viral hornet]

no

[void void]

leaf is the furry here

[viral hornet]

only furry here is @static badge

[true canyon]

I will confirm that I am not a furry.

[frank otter]

is the carrier a cat

[wet storm]

It is a philosophical question

[static badge]

not a fucking furry you australian criminal

[void void]

[true canyon]

I have no cat and I must pet.

[viral hornet]

🥺

[wet storm]

😩

[magic river]

lol, in Elden Ring each point of vigor gives you more HP than the last one did until you get to 40 points

Not sure if you even hit actual diminishing returns there or if it just goes flat

[visual creek]

Since I been doing so much programming recently I been typing ; at the end of all my math homework notes lol

[lilac moon]

ive been doing so much programming that i dont do that

[quick pasture]

[cloud moat]

Btw, did the Spigot PR to remove the Material Enum go anywhere? Kinda hoped to see that one but it seems stale

[foggy silo]

It’s still in magic spigot pr limbo

Hopefully we will see it go through a major release

[cloud moat]

If Spigot won't do it, is there any Chance Paper will adopt it?

[worthy geode]

after a hard fork I would hope, otherwise this will create a bit of a mess

[cloud moat]

Are there currently plans when or if that will happen?

[green edge]

Analytics plugin to show economical situation on the server live.
https://rz.al/u/7ea9.png
https://rz.al/u/e21f.png

[true canyon]

Buy the dip!

[warm anchor]

Half of Minecraft population can’t even read so I doubt that’s useful but cool

[foggy silo]

Buy high sell low

[green edge]

It helps with players feeling they have a saying in the economy, one of the biggest aspects I've learned the hard way is that people (especially on smaller servers sub 200 players) look for the community and familiarity aspect

To build those you need to make them feel part of the family, so transparency even in the sense of economics helps (Although they probabbly won't read it or understand it).

Plus it helps me deal with balancing the eco

[foggy silo]

Curious what are you using to generate the graphs

[green edge]

https://github.com/knowm/XChart

and putting em on maps

[true canyon]

I assumed you were using some redstone cpu to run excel 97

[snow sonnet]

I run a multi-server setup w/waterfall. I've become highly frustrated with a lot of the ... less quality plugins 😄 out there, so I'm thinking of creating a databus w/ZeroMQ, standardized data structures (protobuf) and a backend in elixir/erlang (same thing Discord uses). I just can't handle the pain of Java anymore. I'll likely make a split in the listener w/java, where some events (less frequent ones) are sent over the bus, and others still remain in java. Anyway, curious if anybody is interested in such a beast.
The primary goal is to create a good data architecture w/relations, and handle high-scale multi-concurrency between servers (much easier to do in elixir/erlang; this is why it's what discord uses).

I'm well versed in elixir/erlang, less so w/Java.

[twin lagoon]

ngl doesn't really sound like something many will be interested in

since the majority that needs something like that will just create their own proprietary version

nothing that prevents you from opensourcing it though

[foggy veldt]

Erlang vm uses too much dedicated wam that can be used to make my Minecraft server run faster sorry

[cloud moat]

Are there currently any plans when or if a hard fork will happen?

[snow sonnet]

dedicated wam?

[foggy veldt]

I think there’s an if but no when

[foggy veldt]

Old meme

[snow sonnet]

I'm thinking only certain things would move to the bus — mostly data things. Not every event. Many of the high frequency things need to stay in the JVM for performance reasons. But it'll help solve a ton of the concurrency problems I see plagued in all the other plugins doing cross-server

I also like the idea of standardizing some data structs around certain data types, and building a real relational structure -- it's frightening what most the db plugins do for SQL tables.

[twin lagoon]

But it'll help solve a ton of the concurrency problems I see plagued in all the other plugins doing cross-server

what issues

[snow sonnet]

syncrhonizing inventory without losing it

teleporting across servers

and so forth

[twin lagoon]

i mean most people seem to just use Redis and implement some distributed locking system

solves a lot of issues already

[snow sonnet]

Yes that is a similar solution :). But redis has a single spin-lock, and isn't actually very concurrent

[twin lagoon]

it works™️

[snow sonnet]

🤷‍♂️ I also like Elixir :D. It's much easier to work with.

[twin lagoon]

nothing prevents you from moving certain things into your elixir backend

if you want to use elixir / erlang then go for it

[snow sonnet]

If i'm going to rewrite stuff I'd rather just go to elixir/erlang, than hack in some thing with redis.

and Java... I'd chew my arm off to avoid having to keep coding stuff in it. it's just so ... anyway. I consider Java like the modern Cobol.

[twin lagoon]

have you heard of our lord and saviour kotlin

[snow sonnet]

yeah, but it's still similar. And mostly for mobile.

[twin lagoon]

it's not mostly for mobile

hell you can write native desktop apps with kotlin/native or build websites with kotlin/js

plenty of people write their minecraft stuff in kotlin aswell

[snow sonnet]

I want to get away from the JVM in general. It's been my bane for ~25 years.

There are just better things out there imho.

opinions of course

[twin lagoon]

i mean either you write your stuff in a jvm language like everyone else or you do your elixir thing and end up having to maintain a giant hack in the end where you're still going to be having to write stuff in a jvm language aswell

[snow sonnet]

😄

Since I'm doing this for the fun of it, i'd rather not have to deal with needles under my fingernails by coding in Java

[twin lagoon]

okay but you're going to be coding a big part in java just to get your elixir thing working

[snow sonnet]

but not all the game logic and NPCs I want to make. I already have ML in elixir. and with the new fn project stuff it rocks on performance even over python.

[twin lagoon]

literally every language on the planet beats python when you talk about performance

that's not special

but not all the game logic and NPCs I want to make.
you're still going to need to write a good portion in java for that though lol

you'd literally just be writing the minecraft stuff in a jvm language but maintaining an API that's usable in elixir

[waxen panther]

Lolw

[snow sonnet]

Not quite :). But whatev. Just thought I'd float it out there to see if anybody was interested in some standardization around a database and data structs.

I'm not going to argue languages. Opinions on languages are always just that.

[true canyon]

🥺

[foggy veldt]

re: vanced discussion from yesterday https://i.redd.it/5nym7n5vhbn81.jpg if this is true thats so funny / fucked lol

[placid thicket]

anyone got a good drop in worldgen plugin? seen a few but they all have intimidating configs. i just wanna drop something in, like terralith, and go

or a way to make worldgen datapacks play nice... that would work too

[magic river]

I've heard of one, supposed to be really good. I think it was called terralith

😄

Plugins can't do what terralith does

[placid thicket]

got any ideas on making that work with paper?

[warm anchor]

https://seedfix.stardustlabs.net/

Yea it works

Make your own seed there

[magic river]

Either everyone is copying from the same fake post or this was legit

Apparently they had a repo called VancedStore too?

[warm anchor]

Many people made the mistake of getting the version from planet and it has the same seed for everyone downloading from there

[limpid knot]

when people say stuff like "shoot us an email at [email]" what are you supposed to email them

[tropic flame]

a bullet, since they want you to shoot them

[lilac moon]

what's the context

[coarse thistle]

Just wanted to share that I randomly found this nice commit amount on my profile

Edit: Yeah, not commits, contributions, but 99% of my contributions are commits

[magic ice]

@gleaming briar

[gleaming briar]

hello?

what is happening ??

[limpid knot]

Damn fam a Nka just wanna read on a budget $600 for some books that dont even sound right

[magic river]

Here I'll crack the code to being a millionaire for you: write a book about how to become a millionaire and be a sociopath so you can convince everyone they should listen to you

[limpid knot]

Are you a millionaire

[magic river]

Or get a job at Facebook and live in a van

I think they call that one FIRE

[limpid knot]

Im tryna practice FIRe fam

[magic river]

My goal is to retire at 50, more realistically I'm more or less on track for 55 and definitely on track for 60

[limpid knot]

How old are you

How do I win friends and influence people

It seems like your good at that amaranthus

[magic river]

I actually have anxiety problems so... 😛

The internet doesn't matter though so it's not as big of a problem, unless I start really thinking about it

[limpid knot]

Yeah I do too

I be downing lexapro for my anxiety

[magic river]

My understanding of being personable is basically empathy and listening skills

[limpid knot]

How much adderall do you take before it's considered abuse

I was prescribed lexapro but I also had adderall before and it helped wit my anxiety

[magic river]

Anxiety can be a side effect of untreated ADHD

[limpid knot]

Yeah

I don't know if my anxiety is related to ADHD or is independent fom that

[magic river]

Although if so you usually require some kind of counselling to go along with the adderall to fully deal with that since you're basically socially/emotionally stunted

The root cause of mine is almost certainly the ADHD since vyvanse or adderall helps more than the prozac or wellbutrin ever did although it doesn't do anything for the sudden spikes of anxiety while those at least smooth them out

They basically put a damper on all my emotions though so I hate them

I'd rather have the adderall and some emergency use xanax

Instead I take none of those because my doctor was a jerk, instead I just take some nootropics and deal with it the same way I did the first 30 years of my life

[limpid knot]

Damn

How did you feel on xanax? have you ever taken them before

[magic river]

I only ever took them when having a panic attack

[limpid knot]

ah

ive only had like one serious panic attack before

[magic river]

Well, a couple times I took one when I was sure a panic attack was coming, then I was out of the 3 pills I got when I had a 6 hour long panic attack

[limpid knot]

damn

[magic river]

After like 2 or 3 hours it was mostly just physical, I was numb to it (and sometimes numb to the physical parts too (along with the rest of my body, whee))

ER forgot I was there, I was around the corner from the reception desk in the waiting room

I figured they just decided I wasn't important so it wasn't until the room was almost empty I went to go see what was up

[void void]

uhm

how can i get

Proximity chat

?

without mod

[magic river]

You can't

Well, in theory you could do it with a server plugin and a discord bot or similar

That would have a bit of latency on the positions and would only be proximity, not positional

Like, I don't think discord can make it sound like someone is walking up behind you, only control whether or not you can hear them at all

[silver nexus]

There’s a plug-in for that but it’s not “proximity chat” like you’re probably thinking of

It wasn’t great

[magic river]

It's a bot that makes a bunch of discord voice chats on the fly and moves people around them automatically as they get in range of each other

Presumably that means you could chain people together to talk over longer distances too since each pair in the chain would have to be in the same channel as the next pair and so on otherwise you'd have two people close enough to hear each other but unable to do so

[lilac moon]

i found a mod that i havent got around to actually using yet but it's https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/simple-voice-chat

i know it's not mod-free but still

wait actually

i have the exact answer for this

@void void try openaudiomc, it uses a webpage for the proximity chat

[red panther]

You need to disable authentication in server.properties (online-mode: false)

However you are vulnerable to attacks then

They will join, but with Steve/Alex skin

And they will have different UUID assigned

Ok

That is not a problem, but they will no longer see their skins, they will lose progress because of UUID change and you are vulnerable to more attacks

[vernal moth]

This isn't the place to discuss piracy

Buy the game or don't play the game, as easy as that r

[tall flame]

u guys updated to 1.18.2?

[wet storm]

So I don't play games

[void void]

bulgarian servers are yet to upgrade

i have not see any bulgarian server on 1.18.2

they all either 1.8 or 1.18.1

[vernal moth]

but why

[void void]

because "1.8 pvp better"

"1.8 no lag"

yet they lazy configure paper

-_-

[vernal moth]

no why 1.18.1 and not 1.18.2

1.8 users are dum, but also a lost cause

[void void]

because they stupid /shrug

[void void]

ehhh they not imo because share of 1.8 servers dropping every day

only 12k servers, that nothing compare modern versions

[wet storm]

No 1.12.2 servers? Surprisingly

[void void]

there are

[vernal moth]

Look closer, lol

[wet storm]

Oh, I missed them, they are 7.3%

[vernal moth]

https://bstats.org/plugin/server-implementation/Paper/580#minecraft_version

Better graph

As it only includes paper servers

[void void]

there no 1.8 paper servers?

[wet storm]

Why java 17 and java 18 are the same color? (As I know java 18 hasn't released yet)

[void void]

nice inspect element

[vernal moth]

that whole chart looks different for me

[still bluff]

Paper is good

[tropic flame]

huh i wouldn't imagine Java 17 with such wide adoption already

[still bluff]

YEAH

[tropic flame]

thought Java 11 would be bigger

[grand pewter]

its about 85% for one of my plugins

given most users are on 1.17/1.18

and its gonna be at least around 40% at this point since about that many servers run 1.18 globally

[native wolf]

well I mean, Java 17 is required for 1.18

[grand pewter]

ya

[native wolf]

and most users upgrade to latest anyways

[grand pewter]

a lot of hosts too

[tropic flame]

this is how the chart looks for me

makes much more sense lmao

not the biggest but yeah

[unkempt drift]

yeah, im using Java 20.

🙂

[ashen cliff]

Good.

[vernal moth]

smh 20 doesnt exist

mainline is still 19 iirc

[unkempt drift]

wow. now we know mini does have super secret access to java 20

[wet storm]

Hmmm... could it be firefox nightly bug?..

We need to find these four server with 50+ legacy plugins...

[oblique igloo]

what do I need to do to get access to kitties channel

[mental meadow]

provide cute kitties

[oblique igloo]

i cant provide kitties if i have no perms to provide kitties.

[mental meadow]

well you can always provide kitties here first

[oblique igloo]

fine.

[tropic flame]

perhaps, works fine on Stable

[oblique igloo]

this is a kitten. she is adorable. when i'm sleeping or she is sleeping. otherwise...

[tropic flame]

remembers that plugin I published a few months ago where I didn't add an api-version

haha yes

[golden gust]

I apparently decided that I couldn't sleep, so decided to like, drag my ass to the shop, and now I got like, as many hours as I can cope for, to burn off to try and get my sleep schedule back

think I need like a shock collar or something

[wet storm]

Bruh... very legacy then

[golden gust]

https://twitter.com/xkcd/status/1503555282697437191

Randall Munroe (@xkcd)

Deviled Eggs https://t.co/x818q6ygip https://t.co/EPuij0TP5E

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Twitter · Mar 15, 2022, 2:14 AM

[calm plank]

i want a host for a kitpvp server that should have place for 30-50 players where to buy? i want to make simple scripts and add some basic plugins

1.8.9

[wet storm]

I suggest you to host an alpha 1.2.6 minecraft server, you know, alpha pvp system is more popular than modern, and also it has better performance than modern versions, you can try popular server software called hmod /s

[calm plank]

@void void wdym unsupported?

it dosent have to be "Paper"

[rare python]

1.8.9 is unsupported

Be gone

[calm plank]

bro wdym?

i still see alot of 1.8.9 servers

[rare python]

Cool

Still unsupported

[calm plank]

like wtf

[rare python]

They should stop using an I don't even know how many years old version of the game.

[golden gust]

We don't support 1.8.x

We're also not a host review site

[calm plank]

papermc dont support?

oh

[golden gust]

bloom/dedmi/extravm are generally the recommended ones

[rare python]

Paper basically only ever support the latest + last.

Right now only 1.18.2 is supported.

[tropic flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/246072060185542656/953204332940099594/Screenshot_20220315_081103.jpg

they are a minority

[calm plank]

i dont even know how i came in here ?

[tropic flame]

me neither but i kind of recall your name from somewhere

[calm plank]

i just want a explanation of what is "paper"

what will happen if i dont use paper when running a server

[tropic flame]

Bloody Mary will appear from your bathroom mirror

[calm plank]

be for real please..

i just want to run a 1.8.8-1.8.9 kitpvp and i bought a host but idk how to change the version

[tropic flame]

nothing, we just won't give you any support if you don't use Paper

[calm plank]

I DO USE PAPER DOE

PAPER IS IN MY FTP

[tropic flame]

not the latest version of Paper though

[calm plank]

i want to use 1.8.8

on my server....

how do i...

[tropic flame]

go ahead then, nothing prevents you from such

nor no one

[calm plank]

bro paper suppots 1.8.8

[golden gust]

no.

[calm plank]

supports

[golden gust]

This is not a hard concept

We provide the 1.8 jars

you are more than welcome to download them and use them

[tropic flame]

let's rephrase

This server does not provide technical support for 1.8 anymore

[calm plank]

idk what paper is

[golden gust]

We do not, however, provide support for them

You are on your own

[calm plank]

pussys

[golden gust]

paper is basically a modification of the vanilla server

[calm plank]

is a vanilla server something like a kitpvp 1.8.9?

1.8.8

[golden gust]

I mean, paper is the server software

it does minecraft

if you want gamemodes ontop of that you'd need plugins or something

[tropic flame]

vanilla refers to an unmodified (original) version of the game

unless you're planning to use command block chains, no, you won't be making kitpvp with it

[calm plank]

what do people make kitpvps with?

[tropic flame]

grab the latest version of Paper, and use the EssentialsX plugin

that's my advice

[calm plank]

no one will join cuz they use labymod bro

ur lost

[tropic flame]

I don't care

[calm plank]

people use 1.8.8 in my country

and most people use 1.8.9

i dont wanna make a UK Server or USA

[golden gust]

Please don't brigade people onto supported versions

it does no good and just stirs the pot needlessly

[calm plank]

u guys are fkn weird

Just tell me

[golden gust]

drop your attitude

[tropic flame]

[calm plank]

what should i use to host a kitpvp with 1.8.9

spigot?

[golden gust]

We don't know what people use for that specific gamemode on that specific version

[calm plank]

what is spigot

[tropic flame]

i don't know what "brigading" is when this person is either completely clueless (nothing that google wouldn't fix) or trolling

[vernal moth]

something people used 5 years ago

[tropic flame]

anyways i got stuff to do, cya later

[calm plank]

@vernal moth is spigot used for kitpvps? 1.8.8 1.8.9

[golden gust]

Don't ping random people

[vernal moth]

nobody uses spigot

[calm plank]

what does 1.8.8 1.8.9 servers use

[lilac zephyr]

dark magic

[vernal moth]

idk why don't you ask people that actually care about 1.8?

[calm plank]

idk where to find them

[vernal moth]

well, maybe they don't exist anymore

[calm plank]

they should

[vernal moth]

they for sure don't exist here

[merry talon]

they really should not

[plucky sparrow]

lmao

[shell kelp]

Do you want to laught?

pazzitivchik - Today at 13:04
I have purple
Is it worth putting parina
Or puffer fish
?
kan1kkk - Today at 13:18
why not paper
pazzitivchik - Today at 13:18
Man what paper on vanilla server 1.18.1
kan1kkk - Today at 13:19
why not?
I just also drive to vanilla with friends
pazzitivchik - Today at 13:19
Many vulnerabilities small tps poor setup and a lot of minuses
For 1.18.1 shit
For version 1.12.2 I agree
go
But not 1.18

xDD

[north jasper]

genius

[shell kelp]

mAnY VuLnErAbIlItIeS

[north jasper]

genius of the whole world

😁

[shell kelp]

also paper's antixray, exploits fixs:

[rare python]

Just watched a teacher at college Google Google and I died inside

[vernal moth]

whats wrong about googling google?

[ashen cliff]

I still remember our IT "teacher" google why the internet is not working... while we didn't have internet.

[shell kelp]

lol

IT teacher in a nutshell

[vernal moth]

my IT teacher watched a video where a 12 year old kid explained bubble sort in the break before trying to explain it to the 15 year old me

thankfully we got a proper teacher later that actually studied comp sci

[shell kelp]

bubble?

bubble sort?

what is this?

[vernal moth]

a sorting algo?

[shell kelp]

ok, im google it

[vernal moth]

a pretty trivial one but its the basis for everything else kinda so it would be required to know it as a dev, lol

[shell kelp]

but first i need to get google's link. lets google it

[ashen cliff]

You mean the best sort algorithm ever created?

[vernal moth]

random sort cries in the corner

or bogosort as it was already called

[ashen cliff]

Sadly random can be faster than Bubble. So we must use Bubble for consistency.

[charred sleet]

i like this idea

[vernal moth]

O(n*n!), what could go wrong

(e-1)*n! comparisons

[shell kelp]

how long did it last?))

[void void]

Bogosort >

[austere hazel]

hi how to download 1.16 ver paper server?

[crystal lily]

https://papermc.io/downloads

[twin lagoon]

legacy at the bottom

[austere hazel]

ok

[austere hazel]

can you help me download legacy because idk how

[twin lagoon]

legacy at the bottom of that page

click on it

read it

[austere hazel]

ok

thx

[crystal lily]

https://startmc.sh/

[void void]

cool website

[wet storm]

Monke sort would be better. (Prob we are talking about the same algorithm where sorting happens randomly)

[vernal moth]

yes

bogosort is the OG name am pretty sure

[wide chasm]

Quantum bogo sort is obviously the best sorting algorithm, running in potentially constant time.

[upbeat falcon]

ffstartmc.sh by @desert cove: https://paste.gg/1e00c564378942d7b8250827bb04f9eb

[void void]

hm

mistake

[vernal moth]

does the stream debugger ever work for somebody?

useless thing

[little frost]

my response is "there's a stream debugger?"

[vernal moth]

its reeeaaallly cool if it works

https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/analyze-java-stream-operations.html

why do you hate me?

[ashen cliff]

Spring.

I hate it.

[vernal moth]

urg I hate everything about this

[twin lagoon]

xenforo 1

xenforo 2 looks quite a bit different though

https://xenforo.com/community/

[void void]

wtf haha

nice

[ashen cliff]

Only 5.52$? Damn.

He do be broke.

[twin lagoon]

that's cloud

the actual license is like $150/yr

it's a php app so yes

no way to selfhost it without the full source code

xenforo is pretty stable / secure

no that's just wordpress

[worn crest]

I like xenforo, with a custom theme it looks pretty nice

But PHP 🥲

[native wolf]

no way, that's some cool shit

[vernal moth]

if it works

[viral hornet]

@twin lagoon 🥺

[neon bramble]

Jetbrains do be doing some magic shit

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/CTpk53Ei-2022-03-15_16-33-12.png

Why?

[tropic flame]

Alt+Shift+5

I mean, there is good reasoning, Ctrl+S should be for saving the file

[unkempt drift]

anyone know how tf to compile craftbukkit without having it re-obfuscate?

I can see how to remap it to mojang mappings, or fully obfuscated, but not the mappings needed for debugging

do I just comment out the special source thing?

[vernal moth]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/browse/pom.xml#315

I would say yes

[unkempt drift]

is there a command line to not execute a goal of a phase?

[vernal moth]

dont think so

not that I know of anyways

[unkempt drift]

ok, well commenting it out worked

oh ofc spigot doesnt have a command line option to disable watchdog

[neon bramble]

Why do you want to do these silly things?

[unkempt drift]

I'm trying to fix this issue on paper, and I need to compare stuff to craftbukkit/spigot

[neon bramble]

Understandable

[unkempt drift]

guess I can set the timeout time to a billion

[neon bramble]

😳

[worn crest]

tebex join Overwolf 😳

[magic river]

Oh, tebex is the way people sell parts of the game these days

[twin lagoon]

same thing as 5 years ago

it's buycraft's new name

[neon bramble]

imagine using tebex

The have horrible pricing

craftingstore ftw

[twin lagoon]

they have great pricing compared to competitors

[vernal moth]

We like overwolf the company, right?

[warm anchor]

No

[twin lagoon]

no

[neon bramble]

Why should we?

[warm anchor]

tfw Mini

Have you SEEM the launcher

its hard to like the company for that clusterfuck

[magic river]

I thought overwolf was a has been voice chat thing

[neon bramble]

Do they? Who are their competitors? The only one I know of is craftingstore, and craftingstore has way better pricing

[warm anchor]

Michael store coming soon

[twin lagoon]

does craftingstore have an integrated payment gateway for like 40 payment methods with full chargeback protection?

and handles paypal through that gateway

tebex lacks in many aspects but checkout is dope

[neon bramble]

craftingstore has no integrated gateway, but they support several ones (Paypal, mollie, terminal3 etc.), you can even have a custom gateway

[magic river]

Oh, not even voice?

[twin lagoon]

pretty sure they used to have voice

[neon bramble]

Did they?

i thought that overwolf was just utility overlay lol

[magic river]

The last I heard of overwolf they were a shitty IM client esports people were getting paid to pretend they used

[glass crag]

they recently bought curseforge off twitch

[magic river]

Huh

[native wolf]

Overwolf was very well known for providing a TeamSpeak overlay

[neon bramble]

yes

[left swift]

curse voice used to be pushed for Smite

haha

they gave you an exclusive skin for one of the gods when u linked it or something

[neon bramble]

but was anyone actually using overwolf for real? It seemed like useless bloat to me

[left swift]

its trash

[twin lagoon]

right but tebex is a one-stop shop

if you want to handle everything yourself, want to pay les fees & you don't have that many issues with chargebacks

just use shopify

hell their pricing isn't that bad

[neon bramble]

idk, mollie + craftingstore gives us way better pricing than tebex

[twin lagoon]

a big + for using tebex is taxes

[neon bramble]

iirc, craftingstore takes nothing from your payments

[twin lagoon]

you get paid out in royalties

makes your life easier

[neon bramble]

I mean, once you set that administrative stuff up, it's not that much of a pain in the ass

[warm anchor]

I trust Michael he has BIGGEST network

[neon bramble]

It all depends on the server size

if it is a smaller server, craftingstore is defo the way to go

if it is a huge server, tebex might be better choice

[twin lagoon]

eh

an argument for that could be that tebex takes the hassle of said administrative things away

nor do you have to go through the pain of managing paypal yourself and hoping that you don't get blocked

[neon bramble]

I mean

[warm anchor]

Most server owner dont consider their own time being an expense

[neon bramble]

Do you really need paypal tho?

[twin lagoon]

depending on your country

yes

[neon bramble]

Well, we have a local network (czech republic), most people use debit cards, paysafecards and SMS

[twin lagoon]

yeaaaaaaaaaaaah if you're targetting an international audience

90% will use paypal

[neon bramble]

you see someone using paypal very rarely

[neon bramble]

Then, you probably have a bigger network, therefore tebex might be a better choice as I've said.

[twin lagoon]

and for mollie you need a registered business here

[neon bramble]

how else do you want to handle taxes?

[left swift]

I've just used patreon for my server lmao

[twin lagoon]

it's already impressive enough to find minecraft servers with a legal entity behind it

[warm anchor]

[neon bramble]

I mean it all kinda depends on your country

[warm anchor]

JAVA MC server community tax fraud central

[glass crag]

dont you technically have to pay VAT in all countries you sell to (where applicable)

[left swift]

only have to report it on taxes after a certain amount

[neon bramble]

Now I feel weird for getting the owner to register a business

[twin lagoon]

no it's a good thing for sure

[glass crag]

could get nightmarish pretty quickly

[twin lagoon]

tebex handles this

[warm anchor]

whats weird about following the regulation (?)

[neon bramble]

I mean

[glass crag]

yeah thats why i like the look of tebex

[twin lagoon]

like the only thing you receive from tebex is being paid out in royalties

[neon bramble]

here, unless you have bigger income than about 1K USD per year, you don't need to tax it

[left swift]

people run pirated servers for pirated clients what makes you think they'll do taxes too

[neon bramble]

So many servers start with that, saying "We will get that stuff sorted out, when we will reach the limit"

[glass crag]

1k?

[neon bramble]

And they never do it

So yeah, MC tax fraud central

[warm anchor]

@left swift not to mention almost all lootbox practice is illegal

[left swift]

what's wrong with children gambling?

[warm anchor]

gambling for underaged kids

[left swift]

seems like an untapped market to me

[warm anchor]

Wont be surprised if Microsoft will step in next to fix that mess

[glass crag]

does that apply to games like overwatch/csgo/etc?

[neon bramble]

that's the neat part, it's not (at least not here), until you can't get real money from that ingame things back, it is not legally considered gambling

[left swift]

with csgo theres like a bajillion loopholes

even in some EU country I dont remember they found a loophole to still offer cases

which was to just show you what ur case will give you before you open it

France maybe

or germany

[warm anchor]

I am sure some EU countires will disagree with this but ok

the point is underaged kid should not have the ability to make such purchase

[neon bramble]

I mean, it is kinda the gray area, I remember this because when gta online added the casino back, rockstar disabled it here

[left swift]

idk why you would disable gambling on a rated M game

unless gambling is a higher age requirement where you live

[warm anchor]

yeah because regulation is different and unless you have a way to KYC there is no way for you to avoid say selling something to some kid

[neon bramble]

So someone wrote a message to our ministry of business or however you call it.
And they responded saying something like: "Until you cannot get the money back from the game (e. g. it is one way process), it is not considered gambling"

It is immoral for sure

But not illegal

[warm anchor]

[vernal moth]

EA actually won in belgium sadly

[snow hemlock]

Hello gyus!
I got a problem with the brewing stand, it keeps repeting the process adding the nether wart to water bottle and never finish the proccess

Does anyone had same issue?

[warm anchor]

This makes me sad

[left swift]

ea is a great company

next cue card

[neon bramble]

Windows is a great OS

[left swift]

windows 10 is the best operating system ever made

[neon bramble]

[left swift]

[magic river]

Wait EA won the right to put gambling back in FIFA?

[neon bramble]

I wouldn't be surprised

[left swift]

that's the only reason to play fifa is for gambling

[magic river]

It's the worst kind of gambling too, it never pays out 😛

[worn ember]

src?

[magic river]

You get all the psychological manipulation of gambling (gambler's high and dark patterns and such) but no one is getting lucky and coming out ahead

[neon bramble]

Depends on your perspective

If you are looking at it from the provider perspective

It is the best kind of gambling

[worn ember]

death is when you finally win

[neon bramble]

[magic river]

Imagine a business where people hand you money and you hand them back absolutely nothing. Now that's the real American dream

[neon bramble]

well that's basically any ingame item selling

[vernal moth]

https://www.polygon.com/22972744/fifa-ultimate-team-gambling-dutch-fine-overruled-electronic-arts

didnt read article

but first google result

[magic river]

Well, no, some games sell stupid DLC like Fortnite (which has its own problems) but FIFA sells you the chance to get the thing you wanted

[worn ember]

A Netherlands court overturned a 2020 ruling mmm yes belgium

[magic river]

So do all Valve's games

[warm anchor]

Ded's country actually di something good for once

[worn ember]

its not even my country

[warm anchor]

[magic river]

Valve's you can even sell for Steambucks so it's even more obviously gambling

[warm anchor]

yeah because valve's credit has real value

unlike majority of Minecraft server

I do love steam market though

no other game allows you to sell your old skins for credit for other games etc.

[magic river]

Are Valve's loot boxes banned in Belgium?

[warm anchor]

They show you what you will get next

there is no rng

[worn ember]

“At Electronic Arts our approach to game design puts choice, fun, fairness and value first. Our priority has always been to make sure that our players in the Netherlands and across the world have a positive experience.”
yeah thats complete crap

[magic river]

There is still RNG if you can't pick what you'll get next 😛

[warm anchor]

when you look into buying chest in Belgium Steam, it will indicate the content inside the lootbox.

[neon bramble]

*they show you what you might get

[warm anchor]

I guess that's the happy middle ground they came up with (?)

[worn ember]

well its randomly selected beforehand, so its still RNG

[warm anchor]

no it's 100% @neon bramble

[magic river]

So your choices are to eat a shitty box and hope for the next one to be better or buy nothing

[worn ember]

you just already know what you'll be buying

[neon bramble]

really

[warm anchor]

yeah

if your next box has "rare" item in it, it will show up as well letting you know.

[neon bramble]

what's the point of the lootbox then? Why don't you buy the skin instead? What is stopping you from choosing only lootboxes with expensive skins?

[magic river]

Or can you just stockpile a bunch of junk boxes and never pay to open them?

[warm anchor]

you cannot make the choice

[neon bramble]

Now I am confused

[warm anchor]

it rotate all the common one first with rate items from time to time and you can only see the "next" box

[magic river]

Right so you still have to pay for all the junk to get the item you want

[warm anchor]

yes

[magic river]

It just tells you ahead of time you're going to be disappointed

[warm anchor]

but you are now disappointed before even opening it

!!

[neon bramble]

that's so stupid

[tropic flame]

enchantments are the Minecraft way of gambling

[warm anchor]

That's when company meets regulation.

[magic river]

It is, and is basically taking the wording of the law and trying to find a loophole

[warm anchor]

Chinese did the similar thing as well

Their law requires all company selling lootbox to disclouse odds

[magic river]

They keep their business model, more or less

[warm anchor]

Steam in China display odds of getting a singular items

instead of overall

[magic river]

It's probably not as lucrative since I bet you don't get the gambler's high from that

[warm anchor]

so it's technically following the rule but the number is pretty much useless

[magic river]

But they didn't have to segment those countries off from the marketplace and just let them buy what they wanted

[warm anchor]

@worn ember isnt the item bought that way untradable outside of your country?

I forgot.

Steam does take measurement against this iirc

[neon bramble]

doesn't it just move gambler's high to the part where you purchase the box -> you are going to be revealed of its contents?

[warm anchor]

nah as a true addict here, that takes all the fun away actually.

[neon bramble]

I mean it is not surrounded by an animation

well if it does

[median cliff]

hi

anyone can help me?
FATAL: The Gradle wrapper has not been found in these directories:

[neon bramble]

[magic river]

I thought you don't buy the boxes, you buy keys to open them

So you randomly get a box when playing, can see what is in it, then decide to not buy a key

[neon bramble]

what would stop you from just opening the nice boxes?

[magic river]

You stop getting boxes if you don't open the existing ones

afaik

[neon bramble]

idk

I don't play such games

[warm anchor]

This is correct

so think of instead of opening them unknown

you are now opening box in a pre- determined series of drops

but you as user can only see the "next" drop.

[magic river]

So it's still RNG

[warm anchor]

yes

[magic river]

They just tell you more about the RNG

[warm anchor]

yes

[neon bramble]

So no fun with same price

[warm anchor]

CORRECT

[magic river]

You can see that your next drop will be something you want then pay money to open a trash drop so you can play more to get the next drop and them pay to open it too

[neon bramble]

😳 I shouldn't support your addiction

[magic river]

Or if your next drop is trash too maybe you just stop trying and hit the marketplace or maybe you waste money on the trash hoping for better RNG later

[warm anchor]

yeah

[magic river]

It's still gambling, just detached enough from the spending money part and neutered enough to avoid the law

[warm anchor]

take DOTA for example

it is a really 2nd hand /developing country friendly place

as the western whales will buy out stuff and keep the items they want and dump the rest into market for 90% off

so if you dont mind getting the newest whatever set you want for the game, wait a month for 90% off official store price is common.

[neon bramble]

At least daddy Gaben has more moneyz for supporting Linux gaming

[warm anchor]

Gaben be chillin in NZ

riding out covid.

[magic river]

I suspect Valve makes enough money without all this crap 😛

[neon bramble]

I would dare to say, that csgo is one of their main money sources

[magic river]

They make 10-30% off every game, DLC, etc sale

They have to run a store to do so, sure

[warm anchor]

DOTA

[neon bramble]

[left swift]

valves biggest money maker is steam

lol

[neon bramble]

no doubts on that

[tropic flame]

so uh

the tweet is in Spanish but

https://twitter.com/ElTiempoes/status/1503386156699992066

Eltiempo.es (@ElTiempoes)

No es Marte ni las imágenes tienen filtro 🔴 Ya tenemos encima la entrada de #calima procedente de África. Las fotos que nos llegan de Murcia y Almería son realmente impactantes.

Fotos de @meteo_sureste @MeteoCartagena

Abrimos hilo sobre este fenómeno 👇 https://t.co/7u5fxXLix9

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Twitter · Mar 14, 2022, 3:02 PM

this is happening around here

well, it's not this intense here in Portugal but in Spain it's legit orange at the sky

dust clouds coming from the Sahara

[left swift]

damn they made Instagram filters IRL?

[neon bramble]

they should rain out here this night

[tropic flame]

GTA SA sunset time

[void void]

nah, that's breaking bad mexico

[tropic flame]

alternatively, US-based movie with mexico filter

yeah LMFAO

[neon bramble]

Looking forwards to see orange puddles tomorrow morning

[foggy silo]

SMH get the orange filter off the screen

[left swift]

logics orange selfie?

[tropic flame]

not gonna happen

[worn ember]

Not sure. I don't really trade

[warm anchor]

[void void]

@quasi valley did CF deny your mod?

[quasi valley]

They just don't appreciate art https://i.imgur.com/d3mMPHv.png

to me it sounds extremely descriptive

[vernal moth]

remove the mod and reapply

lol

[foggy silo]

😔

[quasi valley]

effort, also, I won't have to publish jars on three platforms then

modrinth and GH shall be good

[void void]

ew curseforge

[mossy vessel]

CF and Modrinth both have an API to upload artifacts with, could simply hook into via gh actions on release. Ezpz one release

I'm using the former locally reading the github changelog :P

[mental meadow]

since when does modrinth exist btw? I feel like it kinda appeared over night but I also haven't looked at mods for a while

[ashen cliff]

Creation Date: 2020-07-17T18:43:39Z

Fresh.

[mental meadow]

so not really that old

[warm anchor]

That’s pretty new

[vernal moth]

just like hangar appeared overnight

right

[warm anchor]

Thsts like before Covid!

[vernal moth]

RIGHT?!

[warm anchor]

Yes mini

[mental meadow]

yes mini

dream on

[warm anchor]

It’s time to wake up to reality mini

[golden gust]

hangar?

what's that?

[waxen panther]

hangar should just be a modrinth instance

[warm anchor]

[mental meadow]

time to wake up

just fork modrinth ez

[void void]

but then mini can't rewrite it every two weeks

[vernal moth]

4 day hangar streak btw

[mental meadow]

paperrinth

[warm anchor]

Yo mini is gonna have biggest fuck you all when he release hangar. Y’all just wait

[mental meadow]

printh

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/O7iIDSW.png

[golden gust]

Who knows

maybe if he releases hangar, I might respect him

a tiny bit

Like, a slither

[warm anchor]

[mental meadow]

not as much as me

but a little

[twin lagoon]

TRUE

MODRINTH'S UI BUSSIN

[vernal moth]

if we still at this point in summer ill just close discord and never open it again or something

[golden gust]

(Then he'll breath another breath, and I'll lose all the respect I had for him, but, still)

Mini

[warm anchor]

Can someone pin this

[golden gust]

I will find where you live

and lick you

[void void]

.remindme 4months Is hangar still in this state? @void void

dumb bot

[golden gust]

nah

[waxen panther]

dumb user

[golden gust]

that's kash being a commie

I mean, er

[waxen panther]

[golden gust]

(ily kash, no kill)

But, that bot has been dead for a while

[ashen cliff]

I feel disrespect right now.

[void void]

minibot is up though

[mental meadow]

.mini

[void void]

might just be wrong syntax?

.remindme

[waxen panther]

?remindme

[warm anchor]

Maybe he didn’t port all Config idk

[vernal moth]

PR or shut up

[warm anchor]

Lmao

[golden gust]

krusic

We can wear adidas tracksuits and drink vodka and squat together sometime

[vernal moth]

repo https://github.com/MiniDigger/CloudBot

[void void]

Oh, it's .remind....

[mental meadow]

hey Cat

[golden gust]

remind was erm kyori

[void void]

.remind 4months Is hangar still in this state? @void void

i give up

[golden gust]

or, korobi

[vernal moth]

.kill noah

[limber knot]

turns noah into a snail and covers them in salt.

[vernal moth]

bot is alive

🤷‍♀️

[golden gust]

nah

bro

our reminds where done by korobi

korobi ded

[vernal moth]

oh for two months now

does kash know?

[mental meadow]

yes

[golden gust]

I say that we beat him, with a leek

[void void]

Cloudbot has a remind command though

maybe it just isn't enabled 🤷

[golden gust]

while we sing the songs of our people

[vernal moth]

well, enable it

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-N1yJyrQRY

[mental meadow]

.enable remind

ez

[golden gust]

Still #2 aurora

[vernal moth]

fwiw

[golden gust]

I see that you respected your #1 on twitter

[vernal moth]

 "plugin_loading": {
        "use_whitelist": false,
        "blacklist": [
            "update",
            "youtube"
        ],
        "whitelist": []
    },

[mental meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-did-you-miss-me-professor-moriarty-gif-14479117

[vernal moth]

all enabled

[void void]

It's not explicitly blacklisted, yeah

[golden gust]

aurora: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNC4ybmF3p0

[mental meadow]

well

maybe you need a bigger gun

[golden gust]

debates sliding into aurora's DMs

[vernal moth]

.remind 1337h: @golden gust stinks

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Sorry, remind input must be more then a minute, and less then one month.

[mental meadow]

that gif reminded me

Is that a British Army Browning L9A1 in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?

[vernal moth]

oh cmon

well whatever, remind works

yall just dum

[golden gust]

hey, aurora

||Am a grower, not a shower||

[left swift]

u dont grow either

[mental meadow]

.remind 1h: @vernal moth hangar wen

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Alright, I'll remind you "@vernal moth hangar wen" in 60 minutes!

[frank otter]

.remind 2m: hangar wen

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Alright, I'll remind you "hangar wen" in 2 minutes!

[golden gust]

I mean

it grows

Just, in the wrong direction

[left swift]

anyways

daily poki post

[mental meadow]

[golden gust]

Okay, am like

sorry

but,

boxxy > poki

[left swift]

no ur not sorry

[frank otter]

what is boxxy

.g boxxy

[golden gust]

what is boxxy

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.thefocus.news/culture/boxxy-now/

[left swift]

cat is stuck in 2012