general

[ripe sphinx]

take a look at this https://github.com/PlayPro/CoreProtect/blob/master/src/main/java/net/coreprotect/listener/player/PlayerInteractListener.java#L102-L157

[mossy vessel]

Here is not the proper place to make fun of open source software. You're more than welcome to contribute and improve the plugin, if you disagree with how things are done.

[spiral robin]

^

its super annoying and disrespectful esp since chances are you wont do anything to improve it

[neon bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/chuckles-im-in-danger-ralph-wiggum-the-simpsons-gif-14149962

[neon bramble]

[ashen cliff]

Can we make fun out of opensource plugins that you can't compile?

[neon bramble]

this is a good question

[worn ember]

well excuse me i thought it was still closed source, i'll be making my first pr straight away sir

[left swift]

can we make fun of ded

[neon bramble]

isn't this the you break block new connection thingy,

Right?

right?

Wait they even create a separate brand new thread to do it?

Thanks git blame plugin

I love things that use lombok

[void void]

@spiral robin ,

[river sapphire]

well, the build did fail

[neon bramble]

same for me

[spiral robin]

hi <3

[void void]

Hii

[neon bramble]

like half open source plugins have their build scripts broken

[river sapphire]

Hi aber and emily

[neon bramble]

nothing new

[void void]

Hey Maccc

[left swift]

besttttt aber!!!!!

[void void]

YEAH

[spiral robin]

wowie

i am honoured

[left swift]

nvm I take it back now

[spiral robin]

k

[void void]

BESTESTEST aberdeenerian

[left swift]

honored

[spiral robin]

canada moment

[river sapphire]

aaaand why is everyone Spottedleaf's something 👀

[worn ember]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-from-cringe-pink-skull-cgi-render-gif-23154103

[golden gust]

god

I wish u'd just die

[void void]

Same tbh

[neon bramble]

[left swift]

rt

[void void]

It's been on my to-do list since forever

[worn ember]

[left swift]

@worn ember cats talking to you

[worn ember]

i liked his tweet, he cant do shit

[spiral robin]

@neon bramble your own open source build scripts dont work

[left swift]

https://twitter.com/NoManaSendHelp/status/1492273612627365893?t=UdbGLIxz98UDyGX6-TDZSQ&s=19

nomanasendhelp (@NoManaSendHelp)

@RyanAtRBM Putin deez nuts in your mouth

Twitter · Feb 11, 2022, 11:05 PM

[neon bramble]

fuck

wth is that anyway?

[spiral robin]

[left swift]

I've successfully countered russia

[neon bramble]

I don't use maven no more

must be something old/something i was too lazy to migrate

[golden gust]

jitpack

[spiral robin]

your pinned repo

[void void]

[neon bramble]

fuck

I see why

[worn ember]

[neon bramble]

gonna update it

I think that repo isn't even used there lol

thanks

I really suggest you get that plugin for intellij

it is very helpful indeed

[worn ember]

i dare you to find a repo on my gh that doesnt compile and fix it

[spiral robin]

no

[worn ember]

rood

[neon bramble]

oh god it uses an ancient version of my logger

which uses a project I marked private because I was ashamed of it

Pure komedy

Well rewrite for that bot is planned anyway

I will just leave it that way

[mossy vessel]

My timeline is full with laravel and I know who to blame.

[neon bramble]

So I apologize to CoreProtect

[left swift]

but

[neon bramble]

It looks like I am also incompetent to write working build script

[left swift]

and

[spiral robin]

hahaha i have intentionally been liking less of that sort of stuff cause City told me the same thing

soz

[neon bramble]

I hope I won't need to do some hotfix in that bot, because it will fall like a house of cards

[mossy vessel]

<3

[neon bramble]

I swear I know your name

[wide chasm]

A lot of my projects don't compile if you don't haven't installed a bunch of versions to your local repo 🙂

Multiverse as mutual server, perhaps that?

[neon bramble]

Maybe?

I've done something with multiverse

but I wasn't really active on their discord

[wide chasm]

Me neither

I do have a role, though, so mission accomplished 🙂

[neon bramble]

Multiverse's api is also very... well interesting

but it works.

[spiral robin]

[neon bramble]

that's good

[mossy vessel]

FeelsSleeperMan

[spiral robin]

FeelsNotMyFaultIsAmazingMan

[mossy vessel]

[spiral robin]

[neon bramble]

[worn ember]

sometimes i wish java was more like C#, Rider can infer Generics and show you the return type of it while intellij just shows E or T or whatever

[wide chasm]

Sounds like you want Rider to be more like IntelliJ then?

[little frost]

generics aren't real

[neon bramble]

a bit confused on that too

[mossy vessel]

sometimes I wish ded was more smart, smart people can figure out generic problems and problems with generics

[plucky sparrow]

that might be asking too much

[void void]

🧐

[worn ember]

i dont have issues with it i'm just saying it would be easier

[neon bramble]

I mean sometimes it works

At least for me.

[void void]

I think if you hover while holding Ctrl it shows the inferred type

[worn ember]

ah it does noice, in rider it shows it on ctrl+q so i figured it would do that too in intellij if it was a thing

[magic river]

Step 1: Store who modified every block last in PDC

aka reproduce Sponge cause tracker from a plugin 😄

[neon bramble]

guys I need a java hotline,
You have consumer for consuming things and something to produce things, it is not named producer

[worn ember]

thats not a bad idea

[neon bramble]

And I cannot remember it's name

[magic river]

Step 2 is don't care about the history past the last person

[neon bramble]

I should go to sleep

[glass crag]

supplier?

[void void]

You mean a uh… supplier?

[neon bramble]

YES!

Thanks

I just sometimes completely forget essential things

[worn ember]

i just google "functional interface" when i forgot their names lol

[neon bramble]

that seems like a smart idea

[left swift]

I've got some supplies

[void void]

I used to forget all the time

[left swift]

what u looking for

[neon bramble]

e. g. not something I would do

[worn ember]

i wrote this entire system with recurssion in mind and now i gotta rip out the entire recursion part to swap it with a tick based system, the pain

[neon bramble]

[left swift]

anyways

[golden gust]

nyannyan

[ashen cliff]

Quality question of the day: Does the visual shifting bug still happen in newer versions?

[tawny epoch]

anyone know of a way to let players write some messages for the MOTD on the serverlist like 2b2t has?

[ashen cliff]

The way they did it:

1. Asked people to write BS on Reddit.
2. Put it into a config file.
3. Made the plugin take a random line each time you see the MOTD.

[left swift]

no way

[worn ember]

make them pay $5 to put something there

[vernal moth]

I love renovate

https://github.com/KyoriPowered/adventure/pull/674

Look at this spam

[little frost]

at least you know the update is being adopted :^)

[ashen cliff]

Amazing.

[vernal moth]

You lucky am in a good mood but I almost kicked you for that

Joking about it is even more annoying that people actually asking

[left swift]

[golden gust]

Jesus

You think that maybe they'd like collapse bots

[wraith trail]

yeah seems more like a github issue rather than a renovate one

its great that renovate links that stuff, not sure if it can do that without the backlinking

[little frost]

well really all that github needs is some special linking syntax that doesn't cause backlinks

[rare python]

You reminded me that I needed to switch my stuff from dependabot to renovate

So enjoy as I expand the spam

Your welcome.

[lilac moon]

is that just renamed dependabot

[mossy vessel]

The linking only happens bc you link prs in the release tab which renovate quotes. Simply don't have direct links in the release tab and escape 'em with togithub works fine
Though often interesting to see which of your dependents have merged these kind of PRs :P

There's only one repository by now that closed the update PR

[wraith trail]

was wondering why all of the links it uses directly were https://togithub.com

[spare venture]

launge?

[mossy vessel]

Of?

[void void]

Probably the console

There is a feature request for that: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/3257

[rare python]

Tabs > Spaces

[void void]

Tabs are superior in every way

[proud lance]

If you love tabs so much why are you using spaces in-between your words then

Gottem

[rare python]

Advantages of tabs:

• Uses less storage negligable, but an advantage none the less.
• Customisable as people can set the tab width in there editor
• You don't have to spam as much when editing code without a fancy IDE

[proud lance]

I am just doing a bit of trolling. I use tabs as well

[void void]

I prefer no formatting

saves a ton of storage and memory

[rare python]

I have a habit of code golfing things

[white pine]

have your tab key send out 4 spaces

problem solved

[rare python]

Yes but you see I typically indent with 2

[void void]

doesn't solve the storage problem

[rare python]

But others use 4

[white pine]

the storage problem is not a problem

[void void]

and the customizability

[foggy silo]

I prefer condensing my source code, using 1 char var names, keeping all source code in the same line and encoding my source code when I am finished for the day.

[rare python]

So if you use tabs, everyone is happy, as there IDE can display it as either

[white pine]

so?

[void void]

can't believe paper doesn't do this

[foggy silo]

Complaining about the size of your source files nowadays is ridiculous.

[rare python]

That one was more of a joke

[white pine]

https://javascript.info/ninja-code

[rare python]

But the customisation is the main point.

[warm anchor]

I thought bigger the jar the better performance /s

[glass crag]

storage and spam are non-issues, the major benefit to tabs is accessibility

[void void]

average mcm fork fan

[foggy silo]

my 4k among us is eating my bandwidth WTF!? 😭😭😭

How did our older generation survive!?

[white pine]

this article is funny lol

[warm anchor]

Remember tv was 360p

[rare python]

Normally I avoid abreviations

In some of my code I have gone as far as to use the word "configuration" instead of "config"

[timber sentinel]

The longer the classname is the better

[warm anchor]

It just sounds weird after you repeated it too many times sometimes

[golden gust]

https://projects.haykranen.nl/java/

here

[rare python]

Amazing

[void void]

https://mongodb.github.io/mongo-java-driver/3.6/javadoc/com/mongodb/connection/AsynchronousSocketChannelStreamFactoryFactory.Builder.html

[white pine]

Coding Ninja Tips

1. Use short variable names like a, b, and c. Or, use a variable name like value and data. If you want, even name the variables as types like str and num!
2. Be as compact as possible. i ? i < 0 ? Math.max(0, len + i) : i : 0 is high quality code that anyone can easily understand!
3. Name different functions similarly. If printText prints to the console, make printMessage write text to your printer, and print it out!
4. Shadow your variables. Put user as a global var, then make another user inside of a function, then another user inside of a lambda! Experienced ninjas are troubled with this one.
5. Add side effects to every function! Make isBetween(num, min, max) print the numbers to your printer! Very useful and expected functionality.

[spare venture]

everything in one class!

[golden gust]

dear sir

plz let this person stub thy little toe

[spare venture]

it’s called main class for a reason

[limber knot]

if your classes aren't just one line then I don't know wtf you are doing

[golden gust]

*dear lord

wow brain

[white pine]

I believe indents are a harmful practice which kill millions of people per year.

Don't indent your code. Condense your code into one line.

If there is a way to make your code 1 character shorter, do it!

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsoOG6ZeyUI

[timber sentinel]

The human obfuscator

[rare python]

If your class name does not have atleast 3 words, are you even a programmer?

[magic river]

Tabs for indentation, spaces for alignment

[white pine]

If your class name is more than 2 characters, are you even a human being?

[magic river]

Today I choose violence

[foggy silo]

Oh you should have seen the first project I helped worked on. Had to be a good 10s of thousands of lines in one class…. fans go brrrrrrr

[magic river]

Everyone hates my preferred style 😛

So I just use spaces

I don't usually want things aligned by sometimes I do and if I'm using tabs everyone hates me for using spaces to align things

Some idiots use tabs until they need fewer spaces than their tabstop then use spaces for the rest, this is the worst of all worlds

[limber knot]

Owen: sound slike my first plugin: https://github.com/Phoenix616/RandomTeleport/blob/v1/RandomTeleport v1.0/src/main/java/de/themoep/bukkit/plugin/RandomTeleport/RandomTeleport.java

[golden gust]

I mean, I use spaces

cos then I can align stuff up nicely

[magic river]

I'm okay with spaces because I'm okay forcing 4 space indentation on everyone 😛

[golden gust]

only annoyance is is 2 v 4

[magic river]

But tabs for indentation and spaces for alignment are the superior format

The most complicated too though

[golden gust]

Like, I love 4 just cos it's cleaner but theres always weird ass people using 2

[limber knot]

tbh tabs are actually superior... but I started using spaces so -.-

[rare python]

I use 2, so I prefer tabs so others can have 4 and not complain.

[warm anchor]

Let’s start a survey and have zcat pings everyone. Let’s go

[magic river]

One of the crazy fuckers on my team was using 3 spaces for indentation

[golden gust]

I mean in some aspects, idc; but, like, spaces is defacto and appears to work

[limber knot]

wat

[golden gust]

oh god

[rare python]

That it just cursed

[golden gust]

ever had a 5 spaces file?

[void void]

I prefer seven

[limber knot]

the beauty with tabs is that you can just make them whatever width you want

[magic river]

I made sure our new project had thorough linting rules set up before they got access to it once I saw that

[rare python]

You know whats funny

Those who indent with spaces

Often use the tab key to indent

[foggy silo]

Lol phoenix, except the class was also a utility class for everything, static, everywhere!!

[warm anchor]

You guys don’t double space your lines either? You know like in Microsoft word

[golden gust]

well, yea, tabs with space just makes sense

[limber knot]

I mean my class is all the plugin does (besides the listeners but those were afterthoughts)

[golden gust]

it's like the best key for it

[magic river]

I trained myself to not use the tab key because depending on the editor I'm in I have no idea what it'll do

My first set up tab inserted spaces but then I kept randomly putting actual tabs in things

[glass crag]

one of my jobs did 3-space indentation for some unknown reason

[magic river]

3 space indentation is popular with old school JS stuff, I think

[rare python]

One time a friend who was trying to program sent me a file which ended like this:

    }
});
    }
}

My first response was "do you know how indentation works?"

[golden gust]

"I want 4 spaces, but, muh 80 cols"

[glass crag]

it was c#, so 80 col may be the reason

shave off a space

[magic river]

GNU indentation is the most cursed thing I've seen still

[foggy silo]

Do you guys write your code using the MLA format? 🤓

[foggy silo]

Greek semicolons? 🤔

[rare python]

And this is how they were toggling a boolean:

        if(unclaim.wasPressed()){
             stickyunclaim = true;
        }
        if(stickyunclaim = true && unclaim.wasPressed()){
            stickyunclaim = false;
        }

[golden gust]

I do hope that we move past 80 cols one day

Like, bro

fucking

widescreen

[warm anchor]

I like the smiley face in the end

[magic river]

iirc GNU style mixes tabs and spaces but not for alignment reasons

And does gross shit with braces like this ```c
static char *
concat (char *s1, char *s2)
{
while (x == y)
{
something ();
somethingelse ();
}
finalthing ();
}

[golden gust]

am not saying we need to use a full 5k imac display, but, like, you know, my screens aspect ration went wider, not taller

[limber knot]

120 cols is bae

[void void]

somehow even more cursed than md_5 style

[rare python]

what is that...

[magic river]

I bounce between 100 and 120

[limber knot]

140 is also nice

[void void]

javathon

[golden gust]

I gotta find where to tweak the bar thing

[rare python]

I use 80 simply because it works great when splitscreening

[worn ember]

just get more screens bruh

[rare python]

I have 2 screens.

[magic river]

My terminals are pretty much always 120 but my visual bar in IntelliJ is at 100, iirc

Leaves space in the terminal for line numbers and such 😛

[golden gust]

Yea, 120 for terminal too

it just gave the perfect balance between text space and screen estate

[rare python]

80 col forever lol

[golden gust]

So

like

[foggy silo]

I still can’t believe I survived on my little 1:1 screen for so long lol

[limber knot]

wat

[rare python]

What

[golden gust]

who wants to break into peters house and replace all his monitors with CRTs?

[foggy silo]

Yea.

It’s been only a year since I came to my senses.

[magic river]

If those CRTs are Trinitrons can you break in to my house instead?

[golden gust]

😄

[rare python]

no no no i like my 1080p monitor

[magic river]

TIL the trinitron name is somewhat religious

[limber knot]

I actually used a Triniton TV until 2 years ago lol

[magic river]

It's a combination of trinity and electron tube because they combined three tubes in to one

Like the holy trinity, three in to one

[rare python]

80 col works well for me because I just split screen two 80 col files and that uses all of my screen space

[limber knot]

not using 4 monitors smh

[rare python]

I used to have 3

But one died

[limber knot]

I used to have 3 too 👀

[rare python]

I have a nice 16:9 monitor and some prehistoric 4:3 or something monitor

[magic river]

Technically I have 3

Laptop and then above and behind it the two monitors for my desktop

I raise and lower the desk and/or keyboard tray to adjust between the two

[rare python]

The 4:3 exists because I wanted another monitor... I wanted it cheap... and it was a secondary monitor so

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[limber knot]

my two side monitors are 4:3, it's a nice format

[rare python]

What's worse is when I had 3 monitors they were all different resolutions, aspect ratios, and DPIs

[limber knot]

oof

[rare python]

Ya... nothing ever lined up

[left swift]

I hate liming up

[rare python]

Shh I am on my phone easy to misspell

[tropic flame]

my monitor is 4:3

it's an LCD though not a CRT

[lilac moon]

Mine is 6:9

16:9

[tropic flame]

uh

i felt confused but alright LMFAO

[left swift]

isnt hard to confuse u logic

[tropic flame]

is it?

confuse me then, nomana

[left swift]

6:9

[tropic flame]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

[lilac moon]

It was a typo

I don't have a 2:3 monitor

[left swift]

why not

[lilac moon]

1:1 monitor?

[tropic flame]

lmao imagine a 1080x1080 monitor

[left swift]

I live that life

[tropic flame]

i bet you do

it's the best resolution for your pokimane pics

[left swift]

💅

[lilac moon]

4096x4096 is better

[true canyon]

My second monitor is a cute little hundred dollar 1080p from 2011. I use it for getting a live feed of memes ❤️

[pallid edge]

I wish I had that as a second monitor. Sadly, my 1080p from 2011 is my main monitor

[vagrant marlin]

my lil 1080p second monitor is from 2014

still working like a champ, while being on for at least 4 hours every day for the last 3 years

[ashen nacelle]

i still have a 9" Monochrome CRT display with a Native Resolution of 512x342

[lilac moon]

imagine using a 512x texture pack on that

when your texture pack is higher resolution than your monitor'

[proud lance]

https://www.amazon.com/Loncevon-Portable-Computer-Raspberry-Headphone/dp/B06XQJVXHL/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=mini+monitor&qid=1646183864&sr=8-3 look at this bad boy for minecraft gaming

[meager temple]

otherwise we have to press space four times like a savage 😛

[magic river]

If you went someone and ordered "4 chicken sandwiches, 2 no lettuce, 1 with cheese" what do you think you'd get?

[meager temple]

you'd get 2 chicken sandwiches with no lettuce, 1 with cheese and 1 with the normal shit or a question of "what's on the last one?"

[magic river]

My uncle is convinced they screwed up his order because he got 1 with lettuce, 2 with no lettuce, and 1 with lettuce and cheese

[proud lance]

4 standard chicken sandwiches, 2 have no lettuce, third has extra cheese

[magic river]

He wanted 2 with lettuce, one with nothing, and one with cheese

[proud lance]

if you wanted 2 normal, 1 lettuce and 1 lettuce + cheese thats how you should say it

[magic river]

They normally come with lettuce

[proud lance]

oh sorry saw no lettuce vs lettuce

[rare python]

The glories of communication

[meager temple]

@magic river I don't need to worry about this, I'd only be buying one chicken sandwich 😛

[proud lance]

basically qty + order +/- ingredients

thats one entree

then move on to the next one

[meager temple]

Or: Qty, on 1 ..., on 2.... on n ....

[exotic vine]

Pls help papi not working ;-;

[worn ember]

Go ask in the papi discord then

[exotic vine]

Link

[proud lance]

google it

[worn ember]

Google.com

[exotic vine]

;-;

[meager temple]

heh, I read that VERY differently...

[proud lance]

dirty

[meager temple]

"Please help Papi, not working"

[worn ember]

UwU papi

[proud lance]

shh eternity will hear you

[worn ember]

[rare python]

I thought it was a misspelling of paper

[meager temple]

Ah... Placeholder API...

[magic river]

Yeah I would have ordered "4 chicken sandwiches, 2 regular, 1 no lettuce, 1 no lettuce add cheese"

[proud lance]

that seems clear to me

[meager temple]

Order online, avoid confusion

[void void]

give me my eta now now NOW

dies

[spare venture]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-old-man-clint-clint-eastwood-ugh-gif-7506146

[foggy veldt]

Do you guys think placeholder api was named that way intentionally so when people use the abbreviation they will say papi

[spiral robin]

of course

[proud lance]

main dev has a latina kink

[serene bolt]

I'm sure permissionsex is an entirely innocent name too!

*PermissionsEx

[magic river]

I always say that as PermissionSex

It's a plugin about consent

[drowsy urchin]

Lol

[magic river]

https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/804441.html

https://twitter.com/wrafferino/status/1498301847362281479

Wraff (@wrafferino)

Lore hunting in Elden Ring is a roller coaster, because everyone basically goes "I rode in from heaven on a donkey to search for eggs and now all my friends are spiders, being a tarnished sure is hard" and they refuse to elaborate further.

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Twitter · Feb 28, 2022, 2:19 PM

[hidden reef]

does anyone know if i can use a paper server for rlcraft?

[magic river]

CraftBukkit/Spigot/Paper are massive mods that change a lot of things in the server with no concern for compatibility with anything else

Even if you did manage to cram it together with a Forge or Fabric modpack (which would be a lot of work) you'd have a lot of mod compat problems and the Bukkit API doesn't play well with modded stuff either so plugins would work inconsistently or break

tldr no

[hidden reef]

ok

i was having trouble setting up an rlcraft server and just couldnt get it to work but i can get a paper server to work thats why i asked

[dawn pond]

I'm so happy rn

I setup pterodactyl with 0 errors

plus secure webpage

and unix theme

in 4 hours

that was statisfying

[magic river]

Whoops, wrong window 😛

[night parcel]

anyone use linux/lubuntu?

i have a question, on power management is like 59:59 maximum time i can set. I wanna know its minutes:seconds ?

so, the maximum time i can set is 1 hour?

idle time

[neon bramble]

Good morning

Or whatever part of the day is in your timezone

[ashen cliff]

Yes.

[crystal lily]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[tardy stag]

mc 1.18.2 paper wen

[tall flame]

hello u guys know any plugin that do this? like players will bet a number between 1-100 and at the end of the day or whatevertime u set the plugin will pick a number from 1-100 and the winner will get rewards, like lottery

i tried searching but theres no lottery like this

[rare python]

#paper-help

[rare python]

Educated guess would be like within the next 3 or so days.

[south matrix]

uneducated guess would be RIGHT NOWWW

[tall flame]

why paper help

[rare python]

Because it's a question about plugins

[neon bramble]

Miniiii wen hangar?

[lilac moon]

partially educated guess would be within 1-365 business days

[marble lark]

lel

[dim kelp]

Hi Good Day Everyone, Anyways can I ask help here on LOCALHOST server?

[south matrix]

#paper-help

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/DHmHrhsU-2022-03-02_10-43-40.png

Thank you random plugin.

[rare python]

Someone forgot to clean up there debug print statements

[worn ember]

#paper-help would be the place

[void void]

Look at what I found
"To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion."

[neon bramble]

Like why the hell don't you use breakpoints?

[golden gust]

depends

conditional breakpoints can be a blessing but, sometimes shits far too hot to breakpoint

[rare python]

Because then I have to attach a debugger and with simple issues that's more effort.

[golden gust]

(I mean, most devs don't even know how to do that in our community, but, yea

[rare python]

Plus servers don't behave very well with breakpoints.

[golden gust]

there are times where you just don't wanna have to fuck with breakpoints and stepping through code

Heck, I was debugging a fun issue in paper yesterday

a breakpoint "fixed" the issue

[neon bramble]

Really? Just run the server jar through the intellij debugger.

[golden gust]

Cool

and you know how to use that and set that up

many aren't even aware that the debugger exists

and, telling somebody to put a logger message in is much easier than tryna teach them how to use the debugger

I will generally point to it, but, very few I've pointed to it I've heard of actually using it

[rare python]

I do use the debugger sometimes, but usually as a last resort before asking others

[marble lark]

lmao

[neon bramble]

Really? It's just a few clicks. But I guess it might be hard to understand.

[worn ember]

its an abstract concept though

every time i show an IDE to a non programmer they go bonkers "omg you hacking NASA????"

even between IDE's it can be widely different, had my teacher struggle to help me with an issue cuz i used rider instead of VS and he struggled to use the debugger haha

[neon bramble]

Oof

[rare python]

WhEn PaPeR uPdAtE tO mInEcRaFt 1, 18,. 2

[void void]

Right after hangar releases

[warm anchor]

damn I been in VC for 2 days discord hasnt kick me yet

[left swift]

omg so funny

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-dying-i-cant-stop-laughing-emoji-gif-17802633

[marble lark]

I don't think i've ever bothered to use breakpoints

[marble lark]

nice name man

[left swift]

a kitchen sink to u is not a kitchen sink to me

[golden gust]

breakpoints are a blessing, especially when you get into complex code

Like, sometimes logging random crap is useful as you can see where stuff isn't lining up with your expectations and work out why, sometimes, the code is far too complex or has code paths far too hot for the old logging approach to be viable without 10 hour to run down the entire thing

[marble lark]

the code is far too complex or has code paths far too hot for the old logging approach to be viable without 10 hour to run down the entire thing
happens every goddamn time to me

xd

[worn ember]

Spams 20messages/s

[lavish tapir]

🇮🇳

[neon bramble]

I have a very basic knowledge as far as debugging goes, can I configure something like a breakpoint that only executes when a certain condition is met? For example, a breakpoint will only execute if some variable is < 0

Also, breakpoints are great, because you can add/remove them at runtime, you can't do that with print statements

[wide chasm]

In IJ that's possible, right click the breakpoint

[neon bramble]

Oh I see, thanks I was looking for something like this for the past year

[golden gust]

Like, IJ lets you do it, afaik the JVM itself doesn't support conditionals but IJ is smrt

[neon bramble]

[golden gust]

like, afaik it still pauses but IJ will basically start it back up when its going until it's met

hoooooorrrible for performance

but, like, desperate times call for desperate measures

[neon bramble]

Like you aren't going to debug a production instance, right?

[golden gust]

well, no

theres more special tooling for that

[wide chasm]

starts debugging
"Why is prod down?"

[neon bramble]

I've noticed, that even placing a random breakpoint (which doesn't need to be reached at all) slows down the program to like 50% at best

[golden gust]

field watchers are fun

Like, Ive made a server unable to be joined because of it

[neon bramble]

What do they do?
I've noticed that they exist.

[golden gust]

idk how they work internally but they let you break on field read/writes, etc

[neon bramble]

hmmm

seems good

[golden gust]

and, yea, breakpoints will disable some level of optimisation iirc

[neon bramble]

idk, I've just noticed that my plugin loaded configs like 2x slower when I placed a breakpoint anywhere

[neon bramble]

Can you add/remove them at runtime?

[golden gust]

Yes

In practice, when a debug agent is attached to a JVM, it will typically cause the JIT compiler to recompile some or all methods at a lower optimization level ... or possibly even execute them using the bytecode interpreter. This is likely to happen for methods with breakpoints set in them, and when you are single-stepping1. This may result in different behavior for code that uses shared variables without proper synchronization when you debug it.

[neon bramble]

Well now I understand why some people prefer print statements lol

[marble lark]

-XX:-TieredCompilation

s t o n k s

[left swift]

ovhs website is so shit

its so insane

[ashen cliff]

[left swift]

been trying to cancel my server for a week and now getting charged for march cuz it wouldn't cancel and the support told me to basically "just hit cancel m8"

[vernal moth]

Man am wasted

And I didn't even take painkillers yet

Removing wisdom teeth suuuuucks

How can my brain shut off before I take them

[worn ember]

wait till you have to start eating

[vernal moth]

Oh I stocked up on drinkable shit

[worn ember]

good

[vernal moth]

I asked my doc if liquid bread counts and he laughed me out of the door

[worn ember]

lmfao

[warm anchor]

I thought you aint suppose to mix the two too much if you are a heavy drinker lol

[vernal moth]

So not sure about that one 🤔 😂

[warm anchor]

how many you removed?

[vernal moth]

No that's how you get the real trip

[vernal moth]

All 4

Top two was easy, seconds only

[warm anchor]

I did 4 at the same time and I look like a chipmunk

[worn ember]

yeah i also got 4 removed, well 3 and another tooth cuz that one was too far gone lol

[vernal moth]

The left bottom one took like 20 minutes

[warm anchor]

#selfie time?

I dont remember a thing, they knock me off

[vernal moth]

I look kinda ok

[worn ember]

i only remember going in and waking up in a room

[vernal moth]

Nah that's lame

I wanted to watch

[worn ember]

sexi boi

[vernal moth]

Also, full anesthesia sounds even worse to recover

[worn ember]

eh, its not too bad

they knocked me out for it

[vernal moth]

They shredded my lips trying to hold my face cause they had to pull so hard, lol

[worn ember]

sounds like bad doctors to me

[vernal moth]

Pain wise the operation was fine, the syringes hurt the most actually

[vernal moth]

No he did great, just tough luck

It looked easy on X-ray but the tooth root was angeled weird, something that wasn't apparent on xray

[worn ember]

excuses ;p

well we always knew you were a weird one

[vernal moth]

Nah the guy is great

[spare venture]

why did i open paper general to see that picture of mini

[vernal moth]

Ur welcome

And: blame eter

[neon bramble]

😳

[teal crane]

🧢

I've pretty much learned to not trust anyone who says "coding" instead of "programming"

[pastel pivot]

Should have disabled Anti-Xray, then the picture would have been a lot clearer.

[worn ember]

dad joke of the week award goes to

[pastel pivot]

?

[vernal moth]

Don't mind him, he doesn't appreciate humor

Damm Belgian

[worn ember]

i like dad jokes

dont get me wrong here

[pastel pivot]

All fine, I just couldn't think of anything funny to respond ^^

[worn ember]

[pastel pivot]

Just noticed how strange the german word "geröntgt" (x-rayed) is. lol

[frank otter]

where is that from

like would that be ger-röntgt or get-röng-gt

and weren't xrays originally called Röngten rays or something?

[worn crest]

X-ray = röntgen

[frank otter]

oh ok

[worn ember]

name of the invetor/discoverer

[frank otter]

that's the name of the guy who discovered them right

ah

[worn ember]

if only people would stop having such weird last names that'd be great

[worn crest]

Mr Tesla be like

[worn ember]

tesla is fine

still funny how he has an entire company named after him and the owner isnt even tesla

[worn crest]

Albert Onestone

[short yarrow]

are there tools that check if your commit will break a build or not? like if someone random submits a PR to github, how do you that the code they submitted won't break a build

[worn crest]

GitHub actions

[honest fulcrum]

hello i need a lil help
basically i have a paper 1.18.1 minecraft server with plugins old combat mechanics and protocol support
but when a player joins the server with 1.8, they are subjected to chest interface from 1.18.1 how do i enforce 1.8 inventory management?

[worn crest]

You see a green marker if it builds

[short yarrow]

oh okay. what about your own commits to your repo, is there a check you can do before pushing? like you build it locally, but ya know sometimes things can slip

[worn ember]

any pr you merge to master should run it

[worn crest]

Dunno what should changed in Inventory management...

[worn ember]

or well thats how you should set it up

[rugged minnow]

I code

Lol

[worn crest]

Same. Setup GitHub actions

Or build it locally but GitHub actions is better

[teal crane]

I do both 😄
And then I go to bed and I get an email saying build failed

[worn crest]

[honest fulcrum]

right, so in a normal 1.8 world, when you open a chest, hover over an item, and press "1" on ur keyboard, it places that item in ur hotbar slot 1, and whatever was in slot 1 earlier, goes to the next availible slot, but in 1.18.1, if u do the same, the items are exchanged, so whatever was in ur slot 1 goes into the chest, and whatever was in the chest, goes into ur slot 1

[teal crane]

I swear this is just a bad streak 😄
Okay I'm switching to "build" instead of "assemble" so it will yell at me beforehand

[golden gust]

you have stuff like GH actions which does stuff

but, I mean, there is no foolproof way to ensure that shit doesn't break

everything is basically "does it compile" and "do my tests fail"

ofc, compile is easy, but, tests are only gonna test what you cover, and, well, the strive to 100% test coverage is basically enough of an ass that nobody does it

Because they waited for us?

[worn ember]

tests? Thats what production is for

[golden gust]

Yes.

[worn crest]

Dev branch

[golden gust]

Paper builds and starts just fine

[quick obsidian]

maybe there's a guru here in general - anyone have a good guide to all the pathfinder goals and what each one does? (ideally with what the parameters do, but they're almost all self-explanatory)

[golden gust]

theres like a project somewhere which cares to document the internals

idr what it was called or their coverage of stuff

[quick obsidian]

yeah that would do, if only i could find it

[teal crane]

speaking of I love y'all - how do you add your comment to OpenCollective?

[worn ember]

you can just ping a mod or something and give them proof and they'll give you the role

[teal crane]

Ah, I just figured out a way, it's really weird though. If you scroll down to contributers and find your name in the list you can click on it

[quick obsidian]

i doubt r/technicalminecraft will have an answer but i've asked anyway

[teal crane]

@ mod wont ping yet because they're probably busy, can I have sponsor role? https://opencollective.com/nathanfranke

[crystal lily]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[wide chasm]

Paper implements several optimizations that allow the server to run faster.

[magic river]

Months later my coworker working on our iPad app still thinks he can (and it's the right approach to) trace every URL in an OAuth login flow to make sure he is going to the right places

[worn ember]

yes

[golden gust]

not what anybody said, lol

not something I cared to touch, but, pretty shitty putting a russian flag on something in response to the ukrainian flag being put in there given the current situation

[magic river]

This guy is a fucking moron

[golden gust]

the ban seemed kinda excessive, but, like, some level of common sense

[magic river]

We have an /api/v2/ that is where most stuff lives and an /api/v3/ that is some stuff I slapped together until he can port to GraphQL

He thinks they're interchangeable

[golden gust]

I know clicking emoji is fun, but, like, this is a public channel and space

you're putting your name to that

[magic river]

And insists the iPad app is going to do all its calls through /api/v3/ now

Good luck having 90% of the app not work

[void void]

tapet: He was talking about his coworker, not XUAN

[magic river]

reopens react-native project to rewrite the iPad app

[worn ember]

have you tried yeeting the guy

tapijt

[golden gust]

don't mention

I never said I did

I just said that I can see why it was deemed insensitive af

[indigo rose]

hey, there is a bit of a drama relating this:

[golden gust]

there is discussions going n about it right now internally

[indigo rose]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/fartherviewdistance.84950/

[radiant summit]

guess that's it

[wide chasm]

The person is free to appeal if they want to

[radiant summit]

no more 32+ render distances in future mc updates

[worn ember]

🍿

[indigo rose]

what's the reason of the ban? we just want some context

[rare flower]

nice ban for the reaction of the russian flag, thanks

Спасибо

[radiant summit]

dude claims he was hyped for 1.18.2 release, clicked all emojis and got banned

[wide chasm]

Putting a Russian flag emoji on the message in 1.18.2.

[magic river]

What a crybaby

[golden gust]

Feel free to appeal

we're discussing it internally, seemed somewhat excessive but, I mean, russian flag is kinda a dick move

[magic river]

Puts some random bullshit emotes on a message, gets in trouble for it, deletes all projects

[golden gust]

trying to be open and discuss it

literally says to appeal

[indigo rose]

it is, xuan said he just reacted on every emoji because he was happy about the update without thinking much about it

[golden gust]

like, seriously

fuck off

[magic river]

Fuck Russia

[worn ember]

ah yes its big brain time

[rare flower]

is it possible to remove the ban altogether?

[drowsy urchin]

Fuck Russia

[magic river]

And fuck all the trolls coming over here to complain about him being banned

[wide chasm]

This discussion ends here, the person is free to appeal or DM a staff member.

[radiant summit]

bruh

[indigo rose]

im sure nobody that has a common sense (even within russia) would be happy about whats going on, or feels represented by their flag right now; but banning someone for upvoting a flag is unfair

[mossy vessel]

!ban 921910311127244830 Spam bot

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned tapet34#7969 (Spam bot) [1 total infraction] -- NotMyFault#3732.

[golden gust]

oh, beat me

[wide chasm]

!kick 526514057512091659 The discussion is over

[indigo rose]

now, that guy is stupid

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Kicked !♠ჯἶõῆἶõჯ♠#9523 (The discussion is over) [1 total infraction] -- stefvanschie#7609.

[zealous knot]

hey don't get me wrong, im not in favor of a war but the distinction between russian people and the russian government is important

[ripe sphinx]

well that was interesting

[indigo rose]

I don't second this.

[wide chasm]

!kick @zealous knot The discussion is over

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Kicked Mister_Fix#2812 (The discussion is over) [3 total infractions] -- stefvanschie#7609.

[simple karma]

what happened here

[worn ember]

scroll up lazy butt

[vagrant marlin]

the discussion is over is what happened

[magic river]

People think they can be patriotic without also being called out for the things their country does is what happened 😛

[radiant summit]

i thought it was over?

[worn ember]

[foggy silo]

I wonder since 1.18.2 is out will the deep dark experimental be moved to normal snapshots?

[indigo rose]

you guys are literally banning people for posting their opinion on a punishment; this guy (xuan) left mc development literally because of this. this isn't great for papermc. I'm sure he didn't mean to endorse the ongoing war; and I don't think reacting to a flag emoji means that person is endorsing everything their country is doing

[wide chasm]

!kick 143450719054331904 The discussion is over

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Kicked quiquelhappy#2993 (The discussion is over) [1 total infraction] -- stefvanschie#7609.

[warm anchor]

How's everyone today?

[foggy silo]

Anyone willing to look at a PR? 👀

[indigo rose]

noted

[vagrant marlin]

i am laying in bed and watching tv

[warm anchor]

[tropic flame]

I'm okay, watching anime, what about you eternity?

[vagrant marlin]

ban this guy, watches anime.

[magic river]

Neat, NAND flash can be used to do matrix multiplication

[foggy silo]

I’m eating raisin

[warm anchor]

[indigo rose]

xd

[warm anchor]

stop trolling its not fun

read the room

[vagrant marlin]

we got the gang of r/russia here

[magic river]

Well, kind of, I don't think you can take some literal NAND flash and do it but you can use NAND flash cells plus some other wiring to do it

[warm anchor]

can you stop? I dont really care.

[mossy vessel]

!ban 326238619897692170 No need to continue after been told to stop several times

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned alexeylesin#0631 (No need to continue after been told to stop several times) [1 total infraction] -- NotMyFault#3732.

[magic river]

NAND flash cells are basically variable resistors which should have been obvious with MLC, TLC, and QLC but I never thought about it

[crisp condor]

XD

[vagrant marlin]

QLC is cringe

[warm anchor]

It's interesting to see the technology on those.

[tropic flame]

for some reason it shows that eternity is live on mobile lmao

but i can't see anything

[foggy silo]

I would love to see spotted leafs kitchen sink

Specifically live streamed

[mossy vessel]

Streaming anime?

[vagrant marlin]

thats on you

streaming anime is prohibited

[tropic flame]

by whom

[magic river]

I, uh, might be in a Discord server that streams anime

[twin lagoon]

average paper general

[tropic flame]

my friends do it all the time in our little server

[worn ember]

[warm anchor]

That's DIscord moment

[magic river]

They do a weekly watch party thing

[worn ember]

[tropic flame]

oh no we're getting ToS'ed 😱

[warm anchor]

Discord moment

I guess it got confused by itself.

[magic river]

Sometimes it's just a link to a free place to watch something and everyone tries to sync up, sometimes someone just streams it to the channel

[warm anchor]

I am in the VC on my side PC and was streaming on my main PC

[tropic flame]

oh

[warm anchor]

I have since stopped though

[tropic flame]

that makes sense i guess

[vagrant marlin]

are you trying to hack discord? thats some wild shit

[warm anchor]

You can basically be in multiple VC across other servers

if you have other device or VMbox running discord

odd decision on discord side but you know

[simple karma]

🙏

[turbid oar]

oh thanks for that tip >:)

[magic river]

Nice happy music to reset the mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frAEmhqdLFs

[warm anchor]

Not very useful though I cant think of any other reason to do it @turbid oar

[frank otter]

oh wait you can have per server pfps

[magic river]

With Nitro, yeah

[warm anchor]

yeah

[frank otter]

I was wondering what happened to eternity's pfp

[warm anchor]

[frank otter]

also what's in spottedleaf's kitchen sink

[warm anchor]

type in @ spotted to see

[turbid oar]

I have a few trolls on some servers I want to get payback to

[frank otter]

ah

why is everyone being various objects of spottedleaf

[warm anchor]

@static badge thoughts?

[warm anchor]

it was just us having fun in VC 2 days ago during kneny's livestream

[turbid oar]

Ah thats why you guys were all in vc that time

lol

[frank otter]

ah well

ig spottedleaf's furniture has invaded paper

not much can be done

[void void]

Which one?

[magic river]

Oh good someone is the seagull

Is someone the rat too?

[worn ember]

you make some supporting tweets on twitter and confirm your support

[frank otter]

no but someone should be

wrong reply

but ah

[worn ember]

wow, how rude

[warm anchor]

no one wants to be the rat

[turbid oar]

the rat?

[void void]

https://imgur.com/cIz5Cg3

that rat

[warm anchor]

yes

or you can call it lunch

[drowsy urchin]

😢

[foggy silo]

Teleportation API

[magic river]

afaik knockback is entirely client side

So... what would a 1.18.1 client do?

Maybe not though, I just always assume player movement is client side

So I guess the real answer is you tell me

[golden gust]

1.18.1 on a 1.18.2 server

Like

the moment you say that is like, you know

KB is weird cos like, iirc, part of it was handled by the client

I think that the velocity set was done by the server for the most part

[magic river]

I know explosion and dragon knockback is done via velocity server side

I thought random attacks were done by the client but then I guess knockback/punch wouldn't work

So it'll probably behave like 1.18.2

[void void]

Lgtm from the web view

nvm literally unmergeable, https://i.noah.pm/lh6TCo.png ||/s||

[warm anchor]

should let him merge and submit a grammar PR @void void

[magic river]

https://twitter.com/Bandcamp/status/1499068917947510788

bandcamp (@Bandcamp)

Bandcamp is joining Epic Games! Read more here: https://t.co/dvLEhURZYG https://t.co/4t1MRvugmG

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Twitter · Mar 2, 2022, 5:07 PM

[tropic flame]

champions for a fair and open internet?

[foggy silo]

Lol thanks

[tropic flame]

that's a new one to me, what have they done towards that goal?

[void void]

[vernal moth]

Fortnite money at work

[warm anchor]

Fortnite to Epic is like AWS for Amazon

[vernal moth]

Just that epic is a good company and amazon is modern slavery

[left swift]

politics

[last sedge]

Can they really ban me here for reacting with a Russian flag emoji? 🙂

[vernal moth]

I can ban you for stiring up shit

The topic has been resolved. Keep it that way.

[last sedge]

chill, I just asked a question.

[turbid oar]

yes of course

it can trigger some people

[ripe sphinx]

If someone reacted to something with a swastika or similar, they should be banned right? Similar applies currently

[vernal moth]

Guys

When I say stop

Why do you continue

[ripe sphinx]

sorry mini

[turbid oar]

mb 👀

[last sedge]

xDDD

[sharp spindle]

was i kicked or did i leave on accident somehow

[void void]

If you don't have DMs disabled @thorny flicker will send you a message when you get kicked, banned, etc.

[sharp spindle]

oh

oops i do have them off 😦

i was sleeping and rn i scrolled to the paper discord and it wasnt there so i reaccepted the invite to join

which is weird

[vague spindle]

everybody who reacted with russian flag emoji was banned, but now gets unbanned, so everything alright now

[sharp spindle]

was not me

iirc

i dont check this channel

[twin lagoon]

another company went to shit

[sharp spindle]

michael

[worn ember]

ur mom a poop eater? Chill bro just a question

[last sedge]

Don't text me animal 🙂

[warm anchor]

[twin lagoon]

oh you're eternity

[worn ember]

🐒

[warm anchor]

@twin lagoon wdym

[twin lagoon]

[warm anchor]

[red halo]

knockback is very cursed

client and server both can simulate it

[ashen cliff]

Well. I'm sorry Ken, that was the last some I bought from you apparently. 🛌

[red halo]

explosion packets can cause block desync between client/server (maybe only in previous versions ?) (the blocks are removed on the client via the explosion packet before removed on the server)

explosion packets handle knockback for explosions

velocity packets can and are be sent to all tracked entities

[warm anchor]

have you seem the combat update that's on the sideline? To me that's pretty promising

[red halo]

yeah i have not looked into the internals of newer versions but generally they are heavily refactored versions of the old versions

nor any snapshots

i wonder how the combat system is changed actually

1.9 is hit reg partially broken but generally vanilla players don't really know how to abuse it and in 1.9.0 this was even worse and you could one shot players with this without needing to time anything due to no minimal damage check or something like that

but if you can time attacks properly you can basically just attack players multiple times for slightly less damage then the last attack

in 1.9.0 you could just spam attack and always do damage

so hopefully the new combat update does not break anything that bad lol

[warm anchor]

very true I mean we dont even know when that will actually be merged or ever

[red halo]

oh yea and there is the stop sprint stuff after attack that recently people started using for inf/walking hunger while sprinting lol

but thats mostly just because the sprint knockback nerf is implemented on the client instead of the server w/ a timer

[night parcel]

what?

russia is the new trigger emojy ?

[last sedge]

🙂

[night parcel]

yah, the censorship is a new sport

why would you ban a flag 0-0

[golden gust]

the flag wasn't banned

[night parcel]

people using it gets banned

[golden gust]

people reacted with it in response to the ukrainian flag

the ban was excessive, it has been reversed

but, I mean, dick move

end of discussion

[night parcel]

yah, ik

[last sedge]

ok

[night parcel]

its a bad message, i was thinking just by posting russian flag its an instant ban

[lean kiln]

^^^

[night parcel]

even in online games ukrainian ppl are getting bullied

[runic drum]

This is so sad, my gf is from russia and I am ukrainian 😦
And she is against the war 😢

[night parcel]

on mobile legends i saw this

[last sedge]

нетвойны

[night parcel]

i mean, there is war because rusia dont wanna nato near their border

[lean kiln]

you guys are gonna get kicks if you don't stop

last warning

[night parcel]

me?

[lean kiln]

all three of you ignoring cat and my request to end the discussion

[night parcel]

its ended, i was talking about the war

[glass crag]

cat pics ✅
politics ❌

[night parcel]

ohh, no politics allowed? ok

[ripe sphinx]

There used to be #politics but it's now archived

[night parcel]

0-0

[rocky cargo]

Hi! I'm trying to do a new server in WaterFall but when I try to connect, I have this error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: no further information:

[glass crag]

#waterfall-help

[ashen cliff]

Amogus.

[foggy silo]

Angoose

[worn ember]

duck

[left swift]

waterfall ew

duck is back?

[magic river]

RIP my grandma's Redmi Note 9T

Supports AT&T LTE and LTE-A bands, supports VoLTE, supports Wi-Fi Calling, AT&T says no, go fuck yourself

Now that the 3G network is turned off it doesn't get to make and receive calls anymore

[neon bramble]

oooooof

but why doesn't it use LTE?

[golden gust]

some networks are basically being arses about it

[magic river]

AT&T has a whitelist on their VoLTE

If your phone isn't one they sell or a small number outside of that they had to support (mostly unlocked Galaxy, iPhone, and Pixel models) then you don't get to use it

[teal crane]

Sometimes it's unfortunate how often we rely on non-open standards. Assuming all mobile networks need some sort of centralization

According to google 5G is an open standard, but you'd probably need to make your own transceivers in the whole country to actually utilize it

Same issue with ISPs being oligopolies

[magic river]

LTE and VoLTE are (more or less) open standards

[neon bramble]

Thank god provider sold phones aren't really a thing here

[magic river]

But since it's all just data now it's easy for them to add a check in before allowing you to connect

[neon bramble]

if you have a phone with a 4G name on it

it will just work

[magic river]

The whole point of LTE was to make it all just an IP network, no more circuit switched stuff

Well, SMS and such are still circuit switched I think

[neon bramble]

lol I thought that's how it worked the entire time

hmm

I am sometimes glad that I live in the czech rep., spam calls are illegal here since the start of the year

If I buy a phone, put a sim, it will just connect to the network, no questions asked

[vernal moth]

They are here too

[neon bramble]

huh?

I am a bit confused now

[neon bramble]

It's pretty much the same here

[vague lagoon]

Isn’t that a universal thing?

[charred sleet]

thats why hanger is taking so long... someone left the oven on it 🙄

[neon bramble]

wwweeeen hangaar?

[foggy veldt]

How many months ago? $500 seems a lot for a refurbished pixel

Yea weren’t they going for like $300 on google store?

Oh they bumped it back up

It was like 399 when I was shopping around in jan

[meager temple]

and the whole charging for SMS when they were just putting the SMS into the ping messages...

like, it didn't use extra "data", it was just embedded when pinging your phone to see if still on the network

[magic river]

Oh yeah SMS was basically just piggybacking on empty space in their heartbeat message

[meager temple]

yuuuup

thankfully we still have HDSPA here as well. had the power go out last week, and with everyone using their phone instead of wifi, everything just slowed to a crawl

"turn off LTE.... annnd there we go"

[lavish compass]

@twin lagoon

[quasi valley]

@twin lagoon 🦧

[twin lagoon]

[twin lagoon]

kenny moment

[lavish compass]

kenny moment

[quasi valley]

alright LISTEN HERE

it ALL ENDED WELL

[prime coral]

pog

[sharp spindle]

🦧

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/96U6rgzu-2022-03-02_21-31-14.png

Why is Minecraft like this?

Why are the mushrooms in the dark forest different from grown and natural ones from mushroom fields?
Like bruh.

[frank otter]

krusic what black magic are you doing now

did the left mushroom generate naturally

[ashen cliff]

Yes.

https://posili.me/i/hfUFrN8Z-2022-03-02_21-33-31.png

Like, I have no idea why the ones in dark forests are using different data....

WHY MOJANG?

[frank otter]

this is beyond me

if this is something you have to deal with good luck

if this is something you can complain about, enjoy

[ashen cliff]

And if you click on them with a debug wand or update them in any other way, it just goes to the normal data.

[pallid edge]

Only time I've ever seen that is when I used itemsadded and mushroom blocks were used for custom blocks. The normal mushroom blocks often bugged like that

[ashen cliff]

Yeah, but the question still remains... why are those naturally generated ones different from the other naturally generated ones?

[pallid edge]

Are you using any custom item/block mods or is this vanilla?

[ashen cliff]

The world was pregened without plugins.

[tropic pebble]

hey hello guys, can i ask whats the difference between PaperMC, Waterfall and Velocity? Also what is Hangar? sorry for the questions but i just joined the discord and looking at the channels i couldnt find a detailed answer, im just curious

[wide chasm]

PaperMC is the organization behind Paper, Waterfall and Velocity. Waterfall and Velocity are both proxies. Hangar is an upcoming plugin repository.

[left swift]

chat been dead for 3 hours

cringe!

[true canyon]

We were waiting for you!

[pallid edge]

Of course. It's almost 3am in Russia - their propaganda bots are all asleep

[left swift]

[pallid edge]

someone needs to explain to me the story behind that emoji lol

[brave mountain]

Isn't the server too quiet?

My eyes are on github waiting 1.18.2

[pallid edge]

I just sponsored, can I get my fancy yellow role?

[left swift]

server's too quiet?

[true canyon]

mods are asleep, post outdated memes

I still can't believe my phone called me out like this

[lilac moon]

all but one of my mods support 1.18.2

and that one mod that doesn't is litematica which is also the mod i need most today

[void void]

i need to learn how to make a List and how to use generics but im so lazy at the moment

it'd be better if i was on my laptop but roomie is trying to sleep

[spiral robin]

Wha-

[limber knot]

soo...

uhmm

is there an eta by chance?

how does one get a minecraft server working if there is no paper 1.18.2?

what is velocity?

[lament patio]

There's no ETA

You can use 1.18.1 and ViaVersion

[lilac moon]

velocity is a proxy, similar to bungeecord/waterfall but it's rewritten from scratch

[limber knot]

what is ViaVersion and how do I get it?

[lament patio]

A spigot plugin, on spigotmc's site

[limber knot]

Kyle do you happen to have a link?

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/viaversion.19254/

is it that?

[pallid edge]

Yep

[limber knot]

hmm ok so it says to just copy it to the plugin directory? And this is compatible with papermc?

[wraith trail]

yes it is

this will allow newer clients to join your 1.18.1 server, there are no gameplay changes

for the future: 99.9% of plugins built for craftbukkit/spigot are compatible with paper.

[limber knot]

got it thanks

it worked

[magic river]

I kind of want to use this https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95

Still remember my first computer with Windows 95...

Not that my first computer had Windows 95, I think it was my third

[short yarrow]

for method signatures in an interface, would you add the exceptions in the method signature if the method throws runtime exceptions?

[unkempt drift]

idk if this is right or not, but I usually only put throws if its a checked exception

then in the javadocs I put @throws IllegalArgumentException or whatever

[vernal moth]

I think first Windows I used was 98

My dad and I build a PC to control our model trains

[golden gust]

neeeeeeerds

[vernal moth]

Idk how old I was then, but am born 97' ^^

My dad even hacked together a RC via the universial remote from our TV and my mom was super angry when we stole the remote and she wanted to watch tv 😂

[golden gust]

first I used was 98, we got an old machine off somebody when they upgraded at some point into the XP era

at least somewhat just before the XP era

[vernal moth]

Yeah my dad's PC was XP too but I don't remember using it that early

[golden gust]

we got dialup a while later, which, was fun because like, gotta come off the internet now cos I wanna call somebody or am waiting for a call

fun part is that there was some issue at some point, and my mother got a 2nd phone line fitted in for free