The fucked attention span of gen z will become a concern later on i'm afraid
#general
warm anchor
They are the Funko pop but in the 1990s
warm anchor
trash collectiables that has no real value @meager tusk !
meager tusk
Oh ok
magic river
Since Bitcoin doesn't have any "real" value (fiat currencies have a real value, even if it's complicated to express) and is set up to have a limited supply it seems designed to be what is effectively the world's largest pump and dump scheme
meager tusk
Well, fiat values have value because they're backed by tanks
proud lance
if you want a billion dollars just make a crypto currency for illegal stuff and tell criminals about it
golden gust
shitcoins have been a recent hype
magic river
Like, the limited supply means there is no ability to enact any monetary policy so it's at best digital gold but gold actually has a real value in the world
meager tusk
helps filter out the smart people
warm anchor
I watched some of those promo video I serious wonder what kinda target audiance they are aiming for
meager tusk
I watched some of those promo video I serious wonder what kinda target audiance ...
like i said
golden gust
idiots, basically
magic river
Well, fiat values have value because they're backed by tanks
fiat currencies are basically backed by the GDP of the issuing nation
meager tusk
filters out smarter people
golden gust
as said, it's like the nigerial prince scams
magic river
It's a bit of a circular loop there and I didn't take that class, I only skimmed the book
So I can't really explain it more 😛
golden gust
You do know that the emails they they throw out are intentionally that obvious?
meager tusk
You do know that the emails they they throw out are intentionally *that* obvious...
I was pretty shocked to find this out when I did lol
rich elbow
Since Bitcoin doesn't have any "real" value (fiat currencies have a real value, ...
in a way USD has value because people believe in it? isn't that the most important part of the equation?
meager tusk
It's incredibly smart what they're doing
proud lance
give them your ssn, you miss all the shots you dont take cat
warm anchor
auto sorter but have them sort it out for you!
golden gust
USD has value because of many values
magic river
No, USD has value because the US government requires it to pay your taxes (and conduct a bunch of other transactions) so it's a proxy for the production power of the US
golden gust
Like, it's complex, theres the worth of the debt, the worth of potential trade with the US, etc
magic river
And a bunch of other geopolitical things with petrodollars and world reserve currencies and on and on
golden gust
We replaced gold with a box with blinking lights
rich elbow
meager tusk
Can't wait for megacorporations to become superpowers
magic river
Bretton Woods only kept gold after WW2 because the US wanted it
magic river
UK was ready to ditch gold in 1944 😛
They kind of did actually but since the USD was still backed by gold and the countries had agreements to keep their exchange rates within certain percentages GBP was indirectly backed by gold too
magic river
Well, arguably we were making the whole thing up even in 1944
meager tusk
i know that the french then sent in their navy to swap their usd for gold before it was too late or something
magic river
At some point nations asked for their gold and Nixon said 
and we ditched the gold standard
golden gust
The gold standard was abandoned due to its propensity for volatility, as well as the constraints it imposed on governments: by retaining a fixed exchange rate, governments were hamstrung in engaging in expansionary policies to, for example, reduce unemployment during economic recessions.
according to wikipedia, which somewhat falls in line with what I recall
magic river
Hey that sounds like the problems the EU has been having 🙂
Those who don't learn from history etc etc
rich elbow
true
but ig people interested in btc wanna preserve value... in a way similar to what people investing in real estate are doing, inflation is tax on everyone
magic river
It's neat tech and the original version, HashCash, was a good idea I wish we used
Basically it's a small scale proof of work required to send an email
magic river
It's kind of amusing, Bitcoin was basically invented to solve email spam
magic river
I don't think hashcash involved a merkle tree though, just the proof of work hashing
rich elbow
so EU just gotta start printing money fast and it's all gonna be alright.. 😮
seems easy enough
void void
Germany already tried that a while ago, works perfectly
magic river
The problem with the EU is that some countries want a stronger Euro and some want a weaker Euro and they don't have a system that distributes wealth from the stronger ones to the weaker ones
rich elbow
magic river
Or at least not enough
rich elbow
yea
magic river
Basically they're in a weird middle state between individual countries and the US and it turns out that doesn't always work so well
golden gust
!ban @magic zenith be edgy elsewhere
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned Generix#3656 (be edgy elsewhere) [1 total infraction] -- electronicboy#8869.
magic river
The US figured that out in 1789 😛
rich elbow
lol
so... ruthless world?
keep pushing every day or you will be pushed out
can't let u sit on your hard earned dollars
🙂
magic river
Err, yeah, that's how it's always worked
We've just sped it up
It's not really true though, once you've got enough money you can be rich forever
rich elbow
see, this is why BTC is so attractive, but I guess with all that in mind it can't work, at least not long term
magic river
Grandchildren or greatgrandchildren of new dynasties tend to piss away their wealth but if they did literally nothing they could keep it going in perpetuity
rich elbow
we all die? what's the point? I mean I could see a point but there are a lot of people who just wanna "enjoy" life lol
magic river
But even in those cases due to the inflationary nature of the economy they're keeping things running by investing
Right, they don't piss away their wealth by living it big, they do it by investing in stupid shit instead of just letting their brokers handle things
Although I suppose sometimes they probably do it by buying a bunch of stupid shit
Imagine blowing generational wealth on NFTs 😄
magic river
They could always get a job 😛
rich elbow
yea
magic river
Hell they could probably get a job that makes them independently wealthy, when you're on top it's easy to get jobs like that
rich elbow
if u get job like that without putting in the work.. it's kinda unfair tho? and probably unproductive (in larger view)
but hey life is not fair
magic river
Just get a job on a board making $80,000 a month that you're only tangentially qualified for
rich elbow
ah yes, another productive member of society
novel horizon
ashen cliff
Bruh. A plugin stopped getting updated,
3 forks are now "live".
- has a weird license,
- Uses some code from the 1st, but isn't actually updated,
- Updated to 1.18, but needs another plugin as a dep.
And you know it's going to be good when you see shit like this: https://posili.me/i/rq3YHBLJ-2022-02-08_10-04-09.png
novel horizon
ripe sphinx
mumbles about GPL
ashen cliff
No no. Have a read for yourself: https://github.com/TechnicallyCoded/Inventory-Rollback-Plus/blob/main/LICENSE
ripe sphinx
dafuq
ashen cliff
No no, keep reading.
ripe sphinx
I have...tbh if you're a lawyer, I don't think you'd even be allowed to run the code, since it's all rights reserved
ashen cliff
ripe sphinx
(although it's a mess since the original should be GPL, and thus this should be too)
warm anchor
Where is my krusic fork
ashen cliff
Private, with the license removed.
warm anchor
simple karma
where do i report ppl
warm anchor
Depend on the crime 
warm anchor
@upbeat falcon can be DM’d I believe if it’s something private
quasi valley
No no. Have a read for yourself: https://github.com/TechnicallyCoded/Inventory-R...
https://github.com/TechnicallyCoded/Inventory-Rollback-Plus/pull/69 even got the nice number
simple karma
they were a part of raid on DBH discord
south matrix
A Skript Developer
oxymoron
tropic flame
No no. Have a read for yourself: https://github.com/TechnicallyCoded/Inventory-R...
1) I, me & TechnicallyCoded - all refer to the person who rightfully withheld ownership of the premium Mojang account under the Minecraft name "TechnicallyCoded", the 15th of November 2020. (This way of referencing who I am is to avoid doxxing myself all while making it possible to verify the person who owns the account through an independent 3rd party, which in this case would be Mojang)
how have i never thought about this before?
warm anchor
@simple karma https://dis.gd/request
simple karma
hehehe siuu
tropic flame
i mean i kinda already do this but with the GitHub account
simple karma
<@!693506818361786436> <https://dis.gd/request>
duh they ask for message link
warm anchor
They usually only take report if you are direct victim of any tos breaking act
simple karma
not rly
warm anchor
Have the victim fill up the forum then 
simple karma
i guess he didnt mean that
i told him to change it to something else
looks like its an anti raid bot
but its weird that he joined a server literally during a raid
warm anchor
There are many bot options now for those type of stuff! Look around for one you like 
simple karma
i prefer custom bot haha
warm anchor
Understandable
simple karma
theres one bot i hate tho
anti bot its called, it requires you to open some website and fill captcha
warm anchor
Oh nah!
simple karma
it would be okay, except it bans vpns
warm anchor
warm anchor
ashen cliff
Somehow Chunky is above me.
quasi valley
Another satisfied customer https://github.com/TechnicallyCoded/Inventory-Rollback-Plus/pull/69#issuecomment-1032465247
I love plugin devs
void void
insert "you're not just wrong..." gif here
warm anchor
The emoji army
golden gust
sounds like they're confused over sub-license and relicense...
warm anchor
I mean reading that first paragraph on his license makes me realize my English isn’t that bad after all
void void
They disabled commenting on issues lol
golden gust
What makes your license different from MIT?
You can't use what I have wrote for any reason even if your source is open too.
so, they're violating githubs ToS too
native wolf
Another satisfied customer <https://github.com/TechnicallyCoded/Inventory-Rollba...
what the hell did i just read
smoky cloud
PR 69 
little frost
but officer, other people are breaking the law way worse than I am!
tropic flame
This is a FREE, open source, highly optimized plugin that anyone can use to learn.
i don't think all rights reserved means open source
worn ember
foggy veldt
i prefer custom bot haha
If your custom bot doesn’t do anything what’s the point
merry talon
my favorite part
foggy veldt
```
What makes your license different from MIT?
You can't use what I have wrote...
Changed the license from MIT to Harvard 
lilac zephyr
https://github.com/TechnicallyCoded/Inventory-Rollback-Plus/blob/main/OLD_LICENSE they have an old license!
vague wasp
this is the type of stuff that makes the oss community look bad
golden gust
Their license basically prevents you from touching it
vague wasp
yeah
golden gust
(Like, they are literally breaking the github ToS)
vague wasp
just make it a private repo at that point
vague lagoon
Could they technically do something if you decide to use their code on GitHub?
shrewd field
where can i ask for plugins?
golden gust
for existing ones? google, dev bukkit, spigot, paper forums
for commissions? anywhere but here
simple karma
Another satisfied customer <https://github.com/TechnicallyCoded/Inventory-Rollba...
brainded
rare python
where can i ask for plugins?
Depending what you need it may not be too hard to make it yourself.
void void
incompatible with gplv2, technically incompatible with gplv3
simple karma
simple karma
incompatible with gplv2, technically incompatible with gplv3
wikipedia says otherwise wut
golden gust
"compatability" is basically a stupid term
AGPL has wider requirements in terms of whom you need to provide source to
rare python
People's obsession with the number is stupid.
rare python
You sure about that?
golden gust
general gist is that the GPL is a massive clusterfuck
which while some of the premises of it are sound, creates many stupid headaches especially given the fact that the FSF tries to make the GPL sound more powerful and shit than it already is
rare python
What exactly is the issue with GPL3?
golden gust
GPL is generally a viral license which causes many headaches because very few people understand how it actually applies in many cases and understand the implications of using it
real saddle
general gist is that the GPL is a massive clusterfuck
Can u add a levelling system in this server with role rewards like dirt level 1 coal level 3 etcetc
golden gust
no
real saddle
Why it will be cool
golden gust
- Not an area I care to control in terms of what goes on on the discord
- That stuff is often annoying af
if somebody wants to port the old irc stats page thing over to discord that would be cool, but, otherwise, no
real saddle
its simple add a channel for showing checking level and a levelling bot
real saddle
if somebody wants to port the old irc stats page thing over to discord that woul...
What is that
golden gust
pisg
void void
if somebody wants to port the old irc stats page thing over to discord that woul...
You mean something like https://statbot.net/?
prisma geyser
wtf is this even mean 
golden gust
No, noah
real saddle
Pisg?????
proud lance
wtf is this even mean <:xd:845967075826335784>
Could mean you cant steal code and resell or reuse for other things
Look at the license
golden gust
prisma geyser
what if i cut a part of that code anyway
void void
ah, pretty sure statbot does something similar
golden gust
- You can just copy the code from the old repo before the person stole that shit
pale river
I personally ignore all bukkit plugin licenses and treat them as gpl, no matter what
magic river
That's not quite how that works but I doubt anyone will fight you over it, other than maybe complaining to md5
pale river
The only thing I try avoiding is getting myself banned on spigot
merry talon
I wouldn't even avoid that 
pale river
I only care because I might sell plugins on spigot
Otherwise I'd put a bunch more premium plugins on github as I simply don't care
magic river
Are you selling builds of your GPL plugins or are you a hypocrite? 😄
pale river
I have public sources or will give sources to buyers, not a hypocrite
ashen cliff
Make sure to make the sources public, but require a lib that only you have. 🛌
rancid void
If anyone ever uses the excuse “it’s just a game”, I’m going to lose my mind. Imagine telling Lebron James, Tom Brady, that when, when their pissed off after losing a game, that it’s just a game. I’m going to lose, like are you kidding me? You’re so stupid. It’s about the competitive nature bro. It’s about respect bro; it’s about pride. It’s so much bigger than a fucking video game. And anyone that ever uses the excuse “it’s just a game”, is a horrible human being, and is lazy. You’re a lazy human being.
warm anchor
Ok
languid karma
Neat
tropic flame
wikipedia says otherwise wut
tl;Dr AGPL and GPL are "compatible" because both provide a specially written clause that allows you to mix both freely
that's probably why Wikipedia says "otherwise"
true canyon
If anyone ever uses the excuse “it’s just a game”, I’m going to lose my mind. Im...
But football is just a game.
:3
tropic flame
If anyone ever uses the excuse “it’s just a game”, I’m going to lose my mind. Im...
it's just a game
true canyon
tl;Dr AGPL and GPL are "compatible" because both provide a specially written cla...
Licensing is hard. This link says otherwise too https://i.imgur.com/9nVMRqa.jpeg
tropic flame
Licensing is hard. This link says otherwise too <https://i.imgur.com/9nVMRqa.jpe...
that's actually awesome
true canyon
Yeah, it's a great resource
charred sleet
anyone have a good tool (windows) to see what is using muh ram
task manager isnt reporting it properly
true canyon
How do you know?
lament patio
anyone have a good tool (windows) to see what is using muh ram
Process Explorer
charred sleet
cause its reporting 30% used, with the only "big" app open being discord - at like 1gb. im running 32gb
ao 9gb even for winders
thats a lot
charred sleet
Process Explorer
ill take a look
upbeat falconBOT
golden gust
same applies for many OSes these days
charred sleet
yeah ig, its just 10gb seemed a bit excessive when i have like all nvme
but winders do winders
warm anchor
just download more ram!
charred sleet
<@!392347881648029696> process hacker
where ram usage
oh found
meh finna take cats word for it and ignore it
but if someone is mining my ram im gonna come and 
magic river
How are the 2022.1 EAPs going? Still nothing but broken plugins and dreams?
vernal moth
I dont have any issues
grave raven
Hello
true canyon
Today I found a plugin bug introduced in 2011 and carried forward through multiple rewrites of functionality, that nobody caught because the feature is so rarely used anyway.
grave raven
What's the bug?
true canyon
...oh no. Nevermind. This isn't a bug, it's just that the actual functionality is only documented in the commit message, and it's clear that the folks writing it had no idea how awful that design was.
grave raven
Ah
ashen cliff
...oh *no*. Nevermind. This isn't a bug, it's just that the actual functionality...
Me looking at CraftBook randomly.
true canyon
It's a "deny commands" feature. It does a command.startsWith match, so if you deny the command "ec" it'll also deny the separate command "eco"
Beautiful.
grave raven
That seems like an oversight
true canyon
You'd think that, until you see the commit message that explains how this is deliberate so that you could do it for a plugin that has /time day and /time night where you deny time n so that they can still do /time day
true canyon
Yes.
grave raven
:thonk:
true canyon
It's about denying third party commands, _11, and was written in august 2011 when things were all pretty new. Was bukkit's permissions api even there yet? 🤔
ripe sphinx
what's this in?
true canyon
Take a guess which nightmare plugin I maintain this is from.
ripe sphinx
why the flying fuck.
tropic flame
is it the factions plugin?
ripe sphinx
it must be
tropic flame
i only know you maintain the factions plugin
magic river
August 2011 was a month or two before the permissions API, I think
spare venture
i am very glad i started plugin development when all of this had already been figured out
grave raven
Lol
magic river
Permissions was July 2011, nevermind
mossy vessel
!ban 690194416660643842 Ads
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned Kili_Killer#3715 (Ads) [1 total infraction] -- NotMyFault#3732.
worn ember
@wide chasm banning for ads kekw
golden gust
i'd ban you for aids
golden gust
You're not worthy
worn ember
Fuk
still sorrel
tfw my office hours are nearly finished for today but I push to develop
why do I have push access to develop
and why dont I have force push access to develop
now I have to make a revert commit
limber knotBOT
better than reverting your local changes accidentally before pushing anywhere remote 👀
golden gust
Twitter
looks like apple might actually be looking into commiting to not being fucking years behind
magic river
limber knotBOT
I mean "That's in addition to a "meaningful cash severance allotment" that's determined "based on job level and tenure" with the fitness company, alongside several other benefits."
golden gust
Yea, but, the optics are kinda comical
limber knotBOT
"The company's market value has dropped from $50 billion last year to $9.8 billion as of early February 2022." lmao
left swift
yea ban ded
golden gust
Yea, I mean, they where a coof stock
spare venture
It probably was more like they had free memberships and they opted to not cancel them immediately, haven’t read it tho
golden gust
Maybe, bit it doesn't exactly look great optics wise
limber knotBOT
mfw my openwrt web interface randomly broke...
vernal moth
Man, I love the Minecraft X Puma stuff
It's so nice to see the game connecting people all other the world
Kids in the west get to enjoy shoes made by kids in Asia, isn't that cool?
limber knotBOT
apparently the rpcd service crashed... 😅
meager tusk
Kids in the west get to enjoy shoes made by kids in Asia, isn't that cool?
Based
I want my Minecraft Pumas
lmfao
void void
Paper x Puma when™️
summer rivet
What does mean java java.IOexpetion: key exchange was not finished, connection is closed. When attempting to connwct to sFTP server?
limber knotBOT
the connection probably just closed, maybe your server log has more info
might just be a network issue if it happens randomly
summer rivet
It happens on every sFTP connection try it doesnt happen on FTP
i cant access the server logs
spare venture
don’t use ftp
summer rivet
i know but why doesnt sftp work
spiral robin
spare venture
i know but why doesnt sftp work
idk are you able to ssh?
summer rivet
yes i am i had no problems with sftp before a hardreset of the phone
silver nexus
discord having a rough time for anyone else?
discord having a rough time for anyone else?
took 2 or 3 tries to send that message
seems like they could be having issues
magic river
Wi-Fi 7 is supposed to go up to 40 Gbps
Wi-Fi 7 is supposed to go up to 40 Gbps
Wi-Fi 7 is supposed to go up to 40 Gbps
Pretty sure that only works if you are basically the only AP within 500 feet 😛
Pretty sure that only works if you are basically the only AP within 500 feet 😛
Pretty sure that only works if you are basically the only AP within 5000 feet 😛
Discord dead?
Discord dead?
dusk drift
Good shit
magic river
That's 5Ghz so it basically doesn't go through walls and I think it uses like half the available spectrum for a single client to do it
While also using 4096 QAM
pastel pivot
I have to run 16 single threaded simulations (tasks) that take about a day each when there is a free CPU core. I want to run them on a CPU with 8 threads. Is there a noticable advantage, when I first run 8 tasks and then the remaining 8 tasks, instead of starting all 16 tasks at once?
In other words, how expansive is a context switch for CPUs? Should I worry about that?
magic river
While also using 4096 QAM
pastel pivot
I have to run 16 single threaded simulations (tasks) that take about a day each when there is a free CPU core. I want to run them on a CPU with 8 threads. Is there a noticable advantage, when I first run 8 tasks and then the remaining 8 tasks, instead of starting all 16 tasks at once?
In other words, how expansive is a context switch for CPUs? Should I worry about that?
left swift
amaranth spam
magic river
Oh, when I click the resend button on message failure is it actually sending it multiple times?
Oh, when I click the resend button on message failure is it actually sending it multiple times?
south matrix
guess so, api's going ham
magic river
It hasn't according to IRC, all my messages only show up once
south matrix
guess so, api's going ham
magic river
It hasn't according to IRC, all my messages only show up once
lilac moon
if redis is so cool why is there no blueisnt
magic river
All your messages are only showing up once too
In Discord, I mean. I'm not seeing the message spam from stonar and nomana you have
south matrix
but press ctrl+r and you will see that they actually get sent every time you resend
magic river
Weird, why doesn't IRC see them multiple times then?
It only sees them when Discord tells me it finally went through
I guess they're making it but it doesn't think they're making it
spare venture
setting up a new machine is so satisfying
magic river
So you don't get an event for it but they do make it in to the log
south matrix
yeah
magic river
So yeah, if you have an rpi running a 32-bit OS, wipe it now and put a 64-bit one one it 😛
lilac moon
is that possible though, it's armv7l for my rpi
idk if that will support 64 bit
i wanna replace it with a pi 4 anyways
daring owl
anyone know if the Xeon-E 2288G is good for mc
proud lance
Yeah it is
rugged minnow
I don't really know where to put this question, but I would like to buy an AMD EPYC CPU, with 64 cores and 1tb ram, I want to use proxmox. I want to also use velocity and papermc. So the question is, if I create a program that auto create VMs, how would I add it to the velocity config
Haven't really started messing around with velocity just yet, been busy
And... what would be the best config for mc servers, I will have abt 20 minigames, multiple lobbies
Meaning cores and memory
should i use all cores for every server
daring owl
Yeah it is
how does it compare to a 5800x or 5900x
proud lance
how does it compare to a 5800x or 5900x
literally couldn't answer you, they are all good processors, id probably get the 5900X cause I could leverage bungeecord/velocity better
shrewd field
Depending what you need it may not be too hard to make it yourself.
rn im just trying to get an plugin that can trade using chests but trade items instead of economy money and suff
native wolf
how does it compare to a 5800x or 5900x
5800x and 5900x are a lot faster than that Xeon
boreal frost
damn we hitting almost 150 player with 10tps 1.18 server
ionic trellis
Heyo, What’s the difference beetwen Purpur and paper?
spare venture
nice, great assessment right there
novel horizon
You can ask in Purpur discord what it offers
Or just Google
Purpur offers some configurability and things, but.. not sure, I don't use it and I don't plan to do
spare venture
5800x and 5900x are a lot faster than that Xeon
i didn’t realize how fast 5800x is until i generated chunks with it, 3600x got 64 chunks/s on average on a random gen normal world 1.18 fresh configs, no plugins, 5800x was doing 94 chunks/s on same seed and such
e2288g is good, but it’s dated now
vernal moth
damn we hitting almost 150 player with 10tps 1.18 server
Time to grab a profiling report and start optimizing, lol
spare venture
that’s gonna take quite the optimization to get good performance at those player counts on 1.18
novel horizon
Or use the dev version of Paper that has the performance bonuses from Spottedleaf
If not already 👀
ionic trellis
Thanks for the info.
vernal moth
well, depedsn on the patches but not much
if you are comfortable with our tooling and git in general
like, if you upstream once a week thats 30 min at most, but you can also automate it I guess
daring owl
damn we hitting almost 150 player with 10tps 1.18 server
thats not that great?
magic river
daring owl
big funny
radiant oriole
big funny
Literally slower than the forks it’s based on
Have benchmarked it
Their dumb cache patches slow everything to a crawl
Stellar is pepega
south matrix
boy am i glad they have this in the readme
radiant oriole
I haven’t benchmarked it against paper but it’s 25% slower than pufferfish
void void
boy am i glad they have this in the readme
Didn't work, I don't have a "Multiplayer" option, only Multiplayer
radiant oriole
And that’s with the cheat patches enabled
If you turn off the cheat patches it’s 40% slower
south matrix
"Multiplayer"
Multiplayer
Multiplayer+```
hearty spear
And that’s with the cheat patches enabled
Sounds like crap tbh lol
radiant oriole
I’m legally obligated to only make neutral statements about it so I can’t call it crap
radiant oriole
Hell if you disable the patches that just stop ticking things after a certain amount of elapsed time and the patches that are just plain unsafe you’re left with a fork that’s probably about as fast or maybe even slower than paper and with massively broken gameplay and random broken bukkit events.
That statement contains exclusively facts and is not opinionated in any way
hearty spear
My only issue rn is my ISP modem is crap
A few weeks ago it crashed and hasn't been the same since
Reboots, resetting it
It's just on its way out
radiant oriole
Time to call them up lol
hearty spear
Already have
radiant oriole
That stuff actually does go over time
I’ve had switches and stuff randomly fail after several years of use
hearty spear
You know what they did? Tried to update something, did nothing.
And so I'll have to get and call them up again
A few more times
To get someone out to get me a new one
radiant oriole
One of the switches in my parents’ house failed and was randomly dropping packets so I set them up with some proper gear lol
This was about 3 months ago
hearty spear
So this one started just dropping or rejecting all packets inbound
The firewall just was like nope
Even though I literally had port forwards for it
Was working for 8 months just fine
radiant oriole
Could be at the ISP level
It’s possible the ISP is blocking the inbound traffic and it’s not even reaching your modem in the first place
hearty spear
Dude a level one tech from India doesn't solve jt
They go through a script
Have you tried rebooting the modem
radiant oriole
I wouldn’t expect L1 to solve it
hearty spear
Etc
radiant oriole
Hell I’d be surprised if L2 could solve it
hearty spear
Ik but it's a pain in the ass to get up the chain
radiant oriole
That’s very intentional 
hearty spear
Ik
So I think I'll take a different approach
I'll say my upload speeds are crap
And they were fine but have been degrading over time
I was getting like 600-800 a few months ago
And these days I'm lucky to get 200
Upload
radiant oriole
Tends to happen as they stuff more customers on a line
radiant oriole
Because they have more download capacity than upload capacity
Because the typical load from a residential connection is download heavy
hearty spear
Tried during peak and non peak hours still the same
golden gust
downloads are generally more prioritised cos for most people that's irrelevant
radiant oriole
^
hearty spear
Look I'm looking for an excuse to replace this crappy 2016 gateway
radiant oriole
Unless you’re seeing an abnormal amount of TCP retries, the gateway is likely not to blame.
hearty spear
It's also been randomly dropping out with no rhyme or reason more and more often recently
Just completely killing internet for the house
Or sometimes the pings for stuff just goes oof
It doesn't help that on Reddit just about everything I see about this gateway is some sort of issue
shy bridge
i added a icon to my server but it's not showing up
hearty spear
Make sure it's a png
64x64 pixels
I forget the exact filename of what it's supposed to be
Idk I need to go to bed.
void void
I forget the exact filename of what it's supposed to be
server-icon.png
shy bridge
my server icon filename was not server-icon.png
shy bridge
server-icon.png
its still not working
void void
void void
64x64 pixels
^
shy bridge
yeah it is
novel horizon
Why is it saying it's not
Did you replace the old one or
And why does it say 14:11
It's X:45 right now isn't it
do you have time set to something completely out of time or what
void void
:30 timezones exist too :P
golden gust
Oh, theres worse
vernal moth
nepal is 5:45
thats always my edge case for testing
lmao, read the wikipedia page
It is mainly situated in the Himalayas, but also includes parts of the Indo-Gangetic Plain, bordering Tibet of China to the north, and India in the south, east, and west,
Tibet of China
lmao
shy bridge
And why does it say 14:11
i live India
novel horizon
Right, true, my bad ^^ was few minutes old the screenshot tho, so, did you fix it or?
shy bridge
Right, true, my bad ^^ was few minutes old the screenshot tho, so, did you fix i...
i used a different icon and instead of using paint 3d i used paint, i havent tried
its working
thanks :)
golden gust
depends on the sql server
select 1; works for mysql
But, I mean, if this is java, use hikari
they literally solve this issue
vernal moth
@thorny rivet u around? can you provide usecases for this so we can forward it to mojang? https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/3257
we need to find arguments why mojang should bundle all locales
thorny rivet
yep, I am there
vernal moth
one good example is serializing messages with translatable components to string for like a discord bridge
thorny rivet
well, yeah, translatable components go a long way, especially now that they work everywhere (which wasn't the case before I think)
void void
Could also be useful for server admins who don't speak english very well
(Although there aren't that many messages)
thorny rivet
yeah, something like that. Kinda everywhere you concatenate a message/string with the name but can't use components
hmm, logging
but yeah my use case was something like: When you drop items or see them in chat, we didn't want them to be english
previous coder had gigantic switch statements to translate
they are kinda irrelevant thanks to translateble components though now
so I guess everything that is not accepting translatable components would be
oh another one may be parsing
like /give Karotte
a weak argument could also be that it's not really a localized name if it's always equal to the name
quasi valley
True chads delete them instead
ashen cliff
Can't find a reason why they did that tho.
proud lance
No visible issues? No problems
glass crag
Or my favourite, close it and if it's still a problem it'll come back
ashen cliff
Or my favourite, close it and if it's still a problem it'll come back
Discord style.
smoky cloud
Who has the offline mode bingo sheet
pastel reef
Can you help Minecraft Dungeons on Ubuntu?
smoky cloud
It’s a UWP game so no
ashen cliff
I know, but why?
red timber
aparcar just took stale-bot role
ashen cliff
I see why.
vernal moth
thats one ugly github theme
ashen cliff
red timber
thats one ugly github theme
high contrast
easier to read
turns out i'm just going blind
ha
vernal moth
ufff, das sucks
I am looking into getting my eyes lasered cause am sick of my glasses
10 years is enough
knotty oasis
is this a known problem people have when first migrating to microshit?
found a very posts online about it but nowhere near common it seems
knotty oasis
my mistake of doing migration after receiving the email lmao
im sure everyones doing it so it probably bricked it
vernal moth
Twitter
knotty oasis
alright thanks ❤️
vernal moth
thankfully I migrated a year ago, lol
limber knotBOT
I'm not migrating until they pry it out of my dead hands (and until MS has fixed their MS account creation issues 👀 )
knotty oasis
I didnt like migrating because then you need to have one microsoft account per minecraft account
and with how it ties in with identity its kind of a pain if I have an alt
vernal moth
I'm not migrating until they pry it out of my dead hands (and until MS has fixed...
well, a month left for that
limber knotBOT
I strongly doubt they are going to delete the accounts lol
knotty oasis
https://twitter.com/MojangStatus/status/1491409621533478912
wait thats right when I migrated
did I trigger a shitstorm
oops
sorry guis
quasi valley
so you'll just live with not being able to use it, phoenix? 
vernal moth
yeah phoenix they gonna disable access to the game march 10th
limber knotBOT
I don't really care if I can't access some of my alts for a while lmao
quasi valley
I doubt they'll fix things like login time or having multiple accounts signed in, let alone the bigger migration issues anytime soon
cunning raft
Oh so you migrated your main account
limber knotBOT
creating a separate ms account for each of them is a pita if the signup process randomly breaks
knotty oasis
Oh so you migrated your main account
I also still have a mojang acct alt and good luck I do
limber knotBOT
I assume they think it's some spammer creating accounts or something if you create multiple in a short while lol
knotty oasis
otherwise I couldnt play now
ironically I never migrated before specifically because I was worried it would bug my account out
and lo and behold
fuckin murphys law or whatever
spare venture
i’m all for it being a pain in the ass, less alts means less pain for me
tropic flame
creating a separate ms account for each of them is a pita if the signup process ...
that's why I say no one asked for any migration but then i get jumped at because apparently a minority of developers did
runs
limber knotBOT
I mean having 2fa is nice
but not being able to link multiple accounts to one MS account is pepega af
tropic flame
knowing the way the Java Edition works they probably could've worked on allowing multiple Minecraft accounts under the same MS one
limber knotBOT
main issue is that MS/Xbox accounts don't support owning the same product multiple times iirc
tropic flame
after all it's really only used for the login, Java Edition doesn't use any Xbox ID or whatever in the code
tropic flame
main issue is that MS/Xbox accounts don't support owning the same product multip...
well
i guess the same could be said for Mojang accounts, but a Mojang account pretty much meant a Minecraft account (who plays Cobalt? lol) so the comparison isn't fair
knotty oasis
main issue is that MS/Xbox accounts don't support owning the same product multip...
all this one account for everything is cringe
especially if you want to keep a professional and leisure life separate.
hearty spear
Like I had 2 accounts just so I could have a sibling or cousin play
hearty spear
And a dedicated account to be an admin on a server
Because I would like to be like any other player on the server unless I'm working on it.
Reminds me I need to migrate the admin account lol
knotty oasis
also in my case, bergerkiller easily doxes my name, email, and identity.
spare venture
the less alts my players have the better off i am
knotty oasis
I do not want to use that with strangers
it baffles me this concept is alien to places like discord and social media
facebook using peoples irl name as gamer tags bruh
hearty spear
Although you tell us all here lol
hearty spear
facebook using peoples irl name as gamer tags bruh
Rip
knotty oasis
but you dont know my alt
hearty spear
This is why I don't use Facebook
spare venture
oh so on facebook games i can see what the 12 year old that’s banging my mom looks like?
knotty oasis
yup
hearty spear
Got an oculus rift, ended up using my cousin's Facebook account so nothing is linked to me
Honestly VR is ehhh
knotty oasis
I only know because T90 moved to facebook for his livestreams
the chats just cringe now
Id rather have random lolrandom twitch names than "Margarett Lyano"
tropic flame
Honestly VR is ehhh
i figure, you got a rift
knotty oasis
I dont even want to know what level of cringe would be reached with Metas metaverse bullshit
tropic flame
tbh they were on the rise when VR was just a funny gimmick youtubers played with so i give that to them
but forcing a Facebook account down your throat is such bullshit
hearty spear
I o only have a CV1
But I've used other headsets like the vive and whatnot
Or the valve index
At least for now it's not my thing
And plus my radeon vii only runs vr so good lol
knotty oasis
I wouldnt care as much about needing accounts for VR like that, if it wasnt for the ridiculous "verify your identity" shit where in some countries they want your ID card
imagine tying your real name and identity to a VRChat furry yiff session
only a nofun strictlybusiness sociopath would come up with such a scheme
tropic flame
bruh
yeah
that's true
it's not the first time i say it but parents should set up parental control software instead of telling the government to regulate things
knotty oasis
and I mean that they know it is one thing, but that the information can be hacked, stolen, sold, leaker or even outside of your control made public is terrifying
tropic flame
yes
knotty oasis
bosses already use tools to analyze and harvest peoples social media for job applications
are your VR antics now included in that?
are they going to judge your score in virtual crossbow?
so yes, I want alts.
people that think that concept is ridiculous must lead very boring lives :p
golden gust
Parents deserve peace of mind that their children are protected online from seeing things no child should see
No
Parents need to pull their fucking finger out of their asses and do their jobs instead of expecting the nanny state to deal with it
knotty oasis
lol youtube kids is for more damaging than a kid watching all porn sites that exist.
vernal moth
why would any site comply with that law?
knotty oasis
because if they dont, credit card companies pull out.
vernal moth
like, not like the UK has any international power
knotty oasis
you forgot they have that power now?
it was cheered on as good when they discontinued various alt-right services.
vernal moth
oh I wanna see all payment processing being handled by the EZB similar to how sepa works
knotty oasis
paypal will also cease transactions
vernal moth
visa and mastercard and paypal can all die in a hole
knotty oasis
as they are owned by the same group
knotty oasis
visa and mastercard and paypal can all die in a hole
if they do so do porn sites, they gotta make revenue somehow
and I doubt crypto will help them
golden gust
I mean, those are basically the 3 biggest payment processors in the UK
Well, at least in the top 5 if not top 10
knotty oasis
I dont really get why people even buy this porn scare in the UK
of all things lmao
who are those boomers in control rn
but yeah, all will turn to shit etc
golden gust
Because we have a nanny state
cursive glade
Anyone got cool plugins?
golden gust
ISPs already have age restrictions on shit
I literally can't go on the hub on my mobile because I don't have photo ID
knotty oasis
and vpns are fairly trivial to kill once it becomes a globally enforced thing.
its not about using, its about hosting
and it can all be done through those evil mega payment processors.
you know, they did such a good thing.
knotty oasis
I can promote my own but its probably not allowed :p
cursive glade
🥱
golden gust
theres probs like 2000 forum posts you can google to get answers to that question
We can't be fucked to give everybody a personal list of stuff to go look at
knotty oasis
limber knotBOT
join my server and run /plugins 
tropic flame
I can promote my own but its probably not allowed :p
your own payment processor?
golden gust
not that simple, lol
stoic skiff
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60293057
its really stupid
golden gust
if you wanna do that you gotta go get agreements with visa, mastercard, etc, to process transactions from their stuff
tropic flame
Because we have a nanny state
honestly calling 1984 to everything is a meme by this point but i believe that if we ever turn into such a dystopic society, it's because the people wanted it lol
and not with some sort of coup d'état or whatever
golden gust
Not calling 1984
knotty oasis
thats just part of the sale
stoic skiff
anyway thay can stop minors from seeing porn
golden gust
"nanny state" is literally a long ass thing people have called in the UK
knotty oasis
I can invoke godwins law and say people "wanted" ww2
golden gust
It's not a recent thing that people call the government a nanny over here
You've got aunt beeb
the nanny state
knotty oasis
UK is a nanny state.
to the point cops show up at the door to check your thinking
its a meme at this point
golden gust
idk of any other which fall under that line, but, as said, this is hardly a new thing to call it
tropic flame
anyway thay can stop minors from seeing porn
and so could my parents cuz I've never even thought such things existed when i was a kid :p and i grew up with a computer
tropic flame
and so could my parents cuz I've never even thought such things existed when i w...
fairly unrestricted access btw besides having a time limit when i was younger
knotty oasis
and so could my parents cuz I've never even thought such things existed when i w...
the worst that happened to me was random "for kids" games showing PP for no good reason lmao
stoic skiff
and so could my parents cuz I've never even thought such things existed when i w...
thay will just stop legal sites from showing porn
knotty oasis
and I mean, do you really want kids to find the 'porn' that isnt normal porn first?
tropic flame
oh why of course! we can just turn to illegal sites
golden gust
tropic flame
sounds like a good idea
knotty oasis
because all normie porn has been super restricted and hard to find?
stoic skiff
and I mean, do you really want kids to find the 'porn' that isnt normal porn fir...
there is tor
knotty oasis
litterally "boobs" on google images lmao
stoic skiff
but there is so much sick shit
golden gust
UK gov basically requires all ISPs to have some level of content filtering by law
(I think that there are some exclusions towards startups, but, yea, is fun)
stoic skiff
its better just to watch it on site that gov can regulate
tropic flame
but there is so much sick shit
indeed, you're saying people can just turn up to the deep web to find porn
knotty oasis
you can
stoic skiff
yes
knotty oasis
theres youtube videos all over.
tropic flame
i mean, you can
knotty oasis
its been popularized to shit as that "spooky cool thing"
stoic skiff
and its worst than just googling it
golden gust
not like there ain't free proxies and VPNs out there, etc
knotty oasis
without the opsec
tropic flame
I'd be more concerned about what these deep web sites host than about regulating normie porn sites
golden gust
Like, anybody who wants to get around it can and will
tropic flame
that's my point
knotty oasis
^^^
stoic skiff
I'd be more concerned about what these deep web sites host than about regulating...
yes
limber knotBOT
not like there is material on the clear web out there which will never be blocked lol
knotty oasis
the obscure the fetishes the easier to find
because everyone else those braindead nannystate normies already "found"
stoic skiff
i just think its normal for teenager to see porn
stoic skiff
and they dont need to block it
novel horizon
O_o
golden gust
I mean, theres defo issues with it but at the end of the day, idk wtf you do
tropic flame
the obscure the fetishes the easier to find
if it doesn't include nudity then YouTube might as well not delete it at all lol, i have found stuff
knotty oasis
save the kids before they all turn into furries and into bdsm
golden gust
My fetish is naomi wu
stoic skiff
and gore
I still remember that video from Australia where man killed people in muslim church
knotty oasis
one that left an impact on me is a cop being murdered by some veteran somewhere
stoic skiff
i would like to never seen it
knotty oasis
in first person
left swift
no politics
tropic flame
well that's not exactly porn but more like a LiveLeak video
knotty oasis
but yeah kids shouldnt find those things.
tropic flame
yes
knotty oasis
oof
tropic flame
i mean yeah i wouldn't exactly say let kids find porn either LMFAO
limber knotBOT
why are kids even on the internet? lmao
tropic flame
im just an advocate for parents actually developing a brain
stoic skiff
we should like, not talking about kids and porn
When you say it that way its sound weird
tropic flame
and use parental control software
knotty oasis
maybe parents just dont care about porn either yaknow.
limber knotBOT
parental control software is a joke
knotty oasis
who are these policies for, anyway?
tropic flame
enraged moms
limber knotBOT
they should talk to their kids and teach them a responsible way to navigate the internet
golden gust
parents who don't wanna parent
knotty oasis
I know no person that hasnt seen porn
stoic skiff
maybe parents just dont care about porn either yaknow.
My mom caught me one time
she honstly didnt cared
novel horizon
i mean some parents have no idea whats on the internet, how can they warn kids or take care of them, when they're not literate in that kind of things
limber knotBOT
I saw Happy Tree Friends... offline. Before I saw any porn on the internet lmao.
novel horizon
Yeah, I did too
limber knotBOT
kids are gonna explore and see shit, that's nothign new
limber knotBOT
we watched it on a portable dvd player in school 👀
stoic skiff
kids are gonna explore and see shit, that's nothign new
there is no need to prevent it
golden gust
as a parent its your responsibility to look after what your children do, be that out on the streets or online
ISPs in the UK literally let you block that shit
knotty oasis
just make sure kids dont like, wander off the deep web or meet strangers
that shit is just awful
parents really should do more
golden gust
every PC store literally includes a free copy of some random anti-virus which often includes parental control features and all that shit
novel horizon
ISPs in the UK literally let you block that shit
just remembered that joke "will it block it even from me?" (dad asked)
stoic skiff
i understand parents
knotty oasis
just remembered that joke "will it block it even from me?" (dad asked)
not if you have a loicense m8
stoic skiff
a lot parents dont know how to use computer
knotty oasis
next up you get a porn quota as a dad
left swift
anyways
limber knotBOT
I can understand parents that are forced to work over 40 hours a week and have no time engaging with their child. but every good western country has a proper social security system that doesn't require you to work that much (or at least shouldn't)
limber knotBOT
ok but why pay for porn if it's free on reddit? 
mossy vessel
This server is not the appropriate place to discuss that topic.
left swift
knotty oasis
Alright.
tropic flame
I can understand parents that are forced to work over 40 hours a week and have n...
or just don't have kids
limber knotBOT
that's my solution ;)
knotty oasis
same
knotty oasis
by choice
limber knotBOT
sprays some water at cat
knotty oasis
tho im an introverted weirdo lol
golden gust
"just, not my choice"
golden gust
IRC bridge
limber knotBOT
I have zero interest at raising any more kids. My siblings were enough already.
stoic skiff
IRC bridge
isnt irc dead since like 2010
limber knotBOT
it will never die
left swift
only boomers use it now
limber knotBOT
(phoenix616) xkcd: Team Chat (6 January 2017) https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/team_chat.png
knotty oasis
your face when the entire internet runs on an IRC protocol and youre not even aware
some backbone, somewhere
little frost
like twitch chat (idk if that's still the case)
tropic flame
i actually found it interesting that modern Skype runs on a protocol that's mostly inherited from Windows Live Messenger
limber knotBOT
although I might actually join the singularity way sooner. I will just choose to still communicate with everyone via IRC regardless :P
limber knotBOT
also now you made me remember that I still haven't checked the twitch source code for whether or not they still use IRC
knotty oasis
personally I find Matrix more interesting as an alternative though
stoic skiff
Well, skypes chat protocol was just bad
i liked using teamspeak
knotty oasis
irc is just a security hole
stoic skiff
to talk with my friends
golden gust
So, they just basically shimmed their existing crap into skype and broke even more shit
little frost
security wasn't an issue when irc was made
limber knotBOT
I mean IRC is just simple
tropic flame
security wasn't an issue when irc was made
because no one thought about it
limber knotBOT
just don't expect it to be something that it isn't
little frost
but yeah matrix is a cool modern solution
novel horizon
I'd like to try the new teamspeak, but it is in beta for years already, awful
stoic skiff
I'd like to try the new teamspeak, but it is in beta for years already, awful
i got into beta
limber knotBOT
and yeah, matrix is definitly the way forward
golden gust
I mean, back then it was a simpler time with more closed up and limited networks, etc
limber knotBOT
matrix is everything what xmpp lacked 👀
tropic flame
i only know XMPP as the essentials module no one who installs it knows how to use
limber knotBOT
the teamspeak team is also incompetent af
tropic flame
jk
golden gust
Well, xmpp was supposed to be like, the magical solution to an open chat architecture that everything could hook into
novel horizon
what
mossy vessel
I mean, back then it was a simpler time with more closed up and limited networks...
Some of our internal infra at work is tied to an IRC bot to control other parts, works great since 1998 :P
novel horizon
the new teamspeak is public now O_o
novel horizon
oh, no
golden gust
teamspeak also suffered from a bit of german in the past
tropic flame
Well, xmpp was supposed to be like, the magical solution to an open chat archite...
which just turned into the 15th competing standard?
LMAO
stoic skiff
i used it for 7 years
left swift
and essentials
stoic skiff
had a server
golden gust
It was actually kinda successful
knotty oasis
Ive used xmpp in some product software
those message queues are quickly overtaking them
iot shite
limber knotBOT
facebook and google both had xmpp support for a while
golden gust
Just, then everywhere started stripping it out in favour of their own proprietry solutions
stoic skiff
and i still doesnt know how to use permission system
limber knotBOT
I mean, the teamspeak permission system is at least more capable than discord's lol
tropic flame
new steam chat moment
golden gust
god
novel horizon
in reality it's even worse
tropic flame
it just screams "electron chat app"
limber knotBOT
it's "modern"
novel horizon
limber knotBOT
TS2 was the last teamspeak that was good change my mind
golden gust
Idk why but the first thing which popped into my head is whose line
some scene where colin or ryan was like "What did you do?! what did you do?!" akin to like when a dog shits on the floor
like
TF DID THEY DO
novel horizon
huh, thats weird overall
twin lagoon
tropic flame
TS2 was the last teamspeak that was good change my mind
i only used TS3, what was the difference?
TS3 still had a native looking UI which is awesome imo
limber knotBOT
also no overwolf/external account crapware
limber knotBOT
yeah, Minecraft was cancelled
tropic flame
TS3 needed none of that either though
safe plover
f
limber knotBOT
it doesn't require it
tropic flame
so I'm for TS3
safe plover
Gotta wait for Minecraft 2 then
limber knotBOT
but it shills it
limber knotBOT
TS3 automatically installed it originally but stopped because of the backslash
oblique wadi
Huh
tropic flame
i only know overwolf as whatever service the Bukkit forums wants you to use instead of twitch now, or something
which is enough for me to stay out of it
limber knotBOT
they bought curseforge
true canyon
Mumble ftw
tropic flame
i know
spare venture
the new teamspeak is public now O_o
holy shit it’s been in beta for like a decade
novel horizon
wat
yeah
was years
i was like hmm might be nice and then didnt heard of it for years almost
spare venture
i distinctly remembered ts4 being in beta in like 2012
novel horizon
and now i just go to their website and its for download?? what
spare venture
wait that’s ts5?
