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still sorrel
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added magic to minecraft

spare venture
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magical

still sorrel
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it can do a shit ton of stuff

spare venture
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got some examples?

still sorrel
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from blowing things up, pushing entities away all the way to pulling them towards you

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seeking projectiles

spare venture
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oo that’s cool

still sorrel
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a shit ton of other other cool spells

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shooting thunder

spare venture
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is it for your server or something?

still sorrel
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yeah

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making it rain poisoned arrows above a target

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spells that bounce off between entities

smoky cloud
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Next spell

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Crash the server

still sorrel
void void
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is it gonna be a public plugin?

still sorrel
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its already public

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its just outdated

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was updating it

void void
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ahh

still sorrel
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gravity spell focused wand

void void
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does it have like a mana or spell cost system?

still sorrel
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nope

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there is a cooldown system

void void
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ah

still sorrel
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there are about 50 spells I think

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I went quite overboard

void void
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has a lot of potential for any rpg type server

still sorrel
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oh I added a sword too

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just remembered

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there is a system where you can get a spell scroll and use it on a wand

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the code is an absolute mess

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alright enough flexing

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ok I tried updating any code

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got distracted again

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literally impossible

limber knotBOT
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isn't cloudflare supposed to serve a cached instance of a site if the server is down? :(

twin lagoon
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only if the person enables it

limber knotBOT
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seems odd that that wouldn't be default if the backend server is down

warm anchor
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maybe someone didnt want their site to live on

void void
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maybe its off in case the site is dynamic / doesnt work properly cached

limber knotBOT
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I mean I guess but wouldn't it be smart to just automatically serve the latest cached version e.g. in case of a maven repo if the server was down?

magic river
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Some sites aren't useful without the dynamic bits or aren't useful after they're stale for a couple hours

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Better to default to the mode less likely to cause problems, people know and have to deal with sites being down but sites being outdated is a whole different thing they have to make sure they're okay with

limber knotBOT
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I feel like data persistence is way more important than some random jank but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

still sorrel
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Also remember that personalized content cannot be cached

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If the page has anything user specific it should not be cached since you dont want your user specific things to be served to someone else

warm anchor
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in short a real error message may be better than keeping an older copy up yeah

spare venture
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wonder if the 2019 shortages helped or hurt that

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or how 2020 helped, since you woulddve expected dit to have a similar dropoff

golden gust
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theres still a shortage

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So, theres still demand for it

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shortages defo hurt them, especially given that we entered lockdown where more people wanted gaming stuff, etc

worn ember
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taskbar go brrr

broken holly
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@zenith sonnet pls

lilac moon
spare venture
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well my guess is that shortages hurt companies like nintendo and sony but prorbably really helped microsoft with their xbox

golden gust
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well, iirc, much stuff for xbox was being released dual gen for them

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they extended last gens lifetime due to the shortages and companies have been releasing games for both

spare venture
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after xbone i wouldn't've have guessed xbox series x would do that well

golden gust
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well, iirc, what they do is release the game on there and then like, download stuff for the newer gen if you shove it in there

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it's not like the limited backwards compat they released on the 1

foggy veldt
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I only have brave, file explorer, windows terminal, and vscode on my taskbar and everything else I just press windows key and quick search it

spare venture
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game pass is nice but anecdotally i've never even heard my many playstation friends mention it, so i'm not sure what else people would switch to xbox for

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oh im saying im thinking xbox series x is selling more than it wouldd've if there was no shorrtage

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wouldve imagined this gap would be wider if not for that

golden gust
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maybe, I know many people bought early waiting for the games to start coming out, then theres also the poachers, etc

magic river
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XB1 sold about half what the PS4 did

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But I suspect early adopters are more likely to be in the US where the Xbox does pretty well

golden gust
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Probably, idk anybody who really cared about the xbox post the 360

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at least over here

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everybody I know with a console has a PS

waxen panther
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Xbox was for better people

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You wouldn’t understand cat

golden gust
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xbox just didn't have good enough exclusives for the normies over here

magic river
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XB1 sales are almost entirely US

golden gust
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most of what people play is cross platform stuff

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or, multi platform release

magic river
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I think it sold less than a million in Japan

golden gust
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things like skyrim, FIFA, COD, etc

waxen panther
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PlayStations ui stresses me out

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So i got an Xbox, glad I did toopepela

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Seems like more Xbox players end up going to pc eventually, all the people I played destiny 1 with moved to pc

golden gust
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my mate installed plex on her PS so that she could stream from my plex server as the DNLA stuff was unstable af

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Finding where that was until I remembered it was a chore and a half

magic river
golden gust
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finding the DNLA viewer thing was a chore as well

waxen panther
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Japan mad

golden gust
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but, all your games show up in the same place, really

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So, for games it's not a weird case of searching for stuff, and its only in recent years that people really buy games online

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god, I remember in highschool everybody used to queue up to the super markets so much so that I think that they threatened to stop selling stuff like FIFA to school students

worn ember
# magic river

i like how japan does not fit in with the rest of the world

golden gust
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magically, FIFA would release at midnight and people would mysteriously be ill for the rest of the world

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"does not fit in with the rest of the world" wat

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xbox sales outside of the US suck

magic river
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Japan, US (or NA, sure), and Europe are the primary markets

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Used to be in that order, at some point the US overtook Japan

worn ember
magic river
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Dunno if Europe did or not

waxen panther
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ded is stupid

worn ember
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ok 500iq brocc at it again

waxen panther
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I mean, not smart

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Paper 3.0 correction

magic river
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A console flopping in Japan used to mean it was a failure

worn ember
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im not in a good mood so kindly fuck off

waxen panther
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😳

magic river
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I think Xbox is the only time that hasn't been true

light raptor
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I sometimes see people mention that paper existed in 1.6.4 minecraft. Is this true? I can't find any files for that version. And ofc I wouldn't get any support with issues I might have I that version if it exists

golden gust
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around then yes

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as for if anybody cared to maintain anything from then I doubt it

magic river
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I know there was a 1.7 version

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If there was a 1.6 I didn't know about it back then

maiden kestrel
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is AWS recommended for MariaDB hosting?

neat oyster
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ixdomains

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gives free domain afaik

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incl xyz , fun and sometimes com

neat oyster
foggy veldt
neat oyster
lilac moon
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idk how much i would trust a free domain registrar (mainly because of past events) but you can get .xyz at pretty much any registrar for $1 the first year

foggy veldt
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Yea I would assume it’s something like free first year then $50 renewal or sumth

lilac moon
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its like $8 per year afterwards on average

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for most registrars

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.com is pretty cheap too, usually about $8 per year

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) No last.fm API key set.

lilac moon
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huh?

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.com

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what triggered that

neat oyster
lilac moon
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lmao

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i guess if you really want to save that about $7 a year

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i wonder if it works to let the domain expire, and then buy the same one again for the first year price

golden gust
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they often park them if you let them expire

neat oyster
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im going to buy blackspigot.ml for free and forward it to anti piracy ad

golden gust
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and registrars are known to play the game where they basically retain a domain and give it a hefty fee

worldly turret
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I got a domain for 1 dollar

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Now for renew they are charging 10 dollars 😭

neat oyster
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i did it

worldly turret
worldly turret
lilac moon
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how about whitespigot

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time to buy that

neat oyster
worldly turret
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I registered one .net domain, but status is pending

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Btw why do companies sell domain names, they should be free to use as long as they are available

neat oyster
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pre purchase for when hangar releases

worldly turret
neat oyster
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idk

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just choises

worldly turret
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Xd

worldly turret
lilac moon
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they have to pay for them

neat oyster
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yea

lilac moon
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from icann

worldly turret
golden gust
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ICANN has a fee

worldly turret
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Too low

golden gust
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and then, the individual registrars have a fee

worldly turret
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Why don't do main registrar charge this little fee

golden gust
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icann gets the pool of every domain publically accessible basically

worldly turret
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Should we directly buy from icann, that would be cheaper 🤔

golden gust
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you can't buy directly from icann

worldly turret
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Well then let's start a domain registration company

golden gust
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which on its own is useless

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you'd just be reselling domains from other registrars

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.com, .us, .io, etc, are all owned/maintained my seperate companies

golden gust
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who have a responsibility towards icann, who maintain the DNS root servers

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if you want to be able to create your own TLD, you need icann membership iirc, and to pay registration fees, etc, given that icann is a not for profit who manages one of the very core systems of the internet and need to pay for that stuff

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you've also gotta prove to them that you can maintain such a thing, i.e. having reliable dns servers to facilitate those domains, and then pay ICANN $0.18 for every domain

worldly turret
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Thanks for the explanation 👍

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I like it

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One last question - how do these companies manage to provide free domains like .net domain 10 dollars on other sites and free on ixdomain

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Do they bear losses personally to get popularity?

golden gust
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all the reviews say it's fake but god knows

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but, take .tk, you can get a free tk domain, but, they have a premium service, e.g. register a domain for longer than a year, etc

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I'd imagine many just renewal trap you

worldly turret
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I have a .ga domain just wanted to upgrade it to .com or .net

neat oyster
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use freenom

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they sell com too

worldly turret
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I dont wanna pay xd

neat oyster
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xd

south matrix
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"oh no, $0.025/day"

worldly turret
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I understood ixdomain's policy,

Spread fake news, people will come to your address and generate revenue with ads 😐

worldly turret
worldly turret
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And yes guys i have a situation please help

true canyon
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Is the Joker loose?

worldly turret
worldly turret
true canyon
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Is that what you mean? If not please clarify.

worldly turret
true canyon
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Do that from your webserver, not from DNS. In DNS, point both at the same IP. In your webserver you can set up that auto-redirecting.

worldly turret
south matrix
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don't browsers automatically try www. if the root doesn't work?

true canyon
worldly turret
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Tell me code pls i will try doing that

true canyon
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I want you to google it

worldly turret
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Ok thanks

little frost
worldly turret
worldly turret
worldly turret
little frost
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yep it puts me to www. but that doesn't work either so

true canyon
worldly turret
true canyon
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You are going the hard route with google's sites stuff.

worldly turret
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What other option i have 😑

golden gust
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cheapo VPS

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web hosting, etc, there at least used to be competent free hosts

proud lance
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mans name is Bruce Wayne and he cant afford hosting

worldly turret
worldly turret
neat oyster
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is GitHub pages good for this

neat oyster
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this man figured out chess next grandmaster

left swift
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it's already a thing

true canyon
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Seconding GitHub Pages as a good choice.

neat oyster
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for my website

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but it iz good

worldly turret
worldly turret
true canyon
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seconding.

neat oyster
foggy veldt
ashen cliff
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Based.

golden gust
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without doubt

warm anchor
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He uses .rar! That alone is sus!

ashen cliff
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Amogus.

quasi valley
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🛌

tiny fox
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which command is to find the a url passthrough?

proud lance
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traceroute?

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or tracert

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or nslookup

tiny fox
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yes tracert

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thxxx

neat oyster
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i made sussi stuff in my server just now

worldly turret
spiral kayak
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Hello

neat oyster
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hi

worldly turret
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Hi

lavish abyss
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hi

vernal moth
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Hey, finally some sun

warm anchor
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Mini I think your bike is in the way of the views!

golden gust
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My body is powered by solar

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||solar helps grass grow, cow eats grass, I eat cow||

vernal moth
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I already moved on tho, to a place with better internet, lmao

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5G ftw

warm anchor
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Nice!

vernal moth
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Now am watching grown ass man playing frisbee

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They got tricks and shit

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But they sweating worse than me and I already cycled 15km, lol

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But it's getting really windy and cloud come and shit so am plotting my way home now

primal solar
neat oyster
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im a gas addict

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||oxygen||

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most of my class mates are too

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emphasis "most"

vernal moth
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Ordered a burger, I earned that!

primal solar
primal solar
left swift
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omg mini Jean color reveal pog

vernal moth
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Wat

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Oh jeans

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Jo wtf

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Am starving over here u idiots gimme my burger

neat oyster
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you reveled your location im going to come to you and ask eta

vernal moth
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Cool then I have a reason to ban you

neat oyster
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NO

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i would stalk you till u give me eta

vernal moth
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Try me

neat oyster
left swift
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finally

vernal moth
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For everybody else who wanna come down to cologne you are always welcome and qualify for a free beer or two

warm anchor
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Mini what if they come to ask you for eta

vernal moth
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You need to be 16 to drink beer here

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If you aren't 16 I don't wanna meet you

neat oyster
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good

vernal moth
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Well, I don't wanna meet you at all but that's beside the point

warm anchor
neat oyster
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top reasons there is no irl paper booths

vernal moth
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Oh overwatch

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I played with peeps from here years ago

warm anchor
charred sleet
vernal moth
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It's Germany what did you expect? 😂

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Beer and wine 16, hard stuff 18

charred sleet
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Goddam

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Germany is crazy 😂

warm anchor
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Doesn’t stop people drinking privately anyway

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That’s only if you are out in public ayy

golden gust
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weak

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we don't have a drinking age

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Okay, we do

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but, its like 3 and nobody cares

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oh, wait, 5

warm anchor
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5-16

neat oyster
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wtf

warm anchor
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According to google in UK

vernal moth
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What a scam, they say 60min but show up after 20

golden gust
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5 is legal minimum

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16 you can buy with a meal

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(and an adult, I think)

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18 you can buy

vernal moth
primal solar
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In my country its fucking 25

neat oyster
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ah yes bri'sh

vernal moth
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Germany, where else

primal solar
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Next vacation to Germany

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Plus I'll get free beer from Martin

golden gust
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everybody I know basically did the "buying a 3 litre bottle of shitty apple cider and drinking it at the park"

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but, for me, my family never cared and my birth givers would buy it for us

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kinda figured that so long as it was special occasions and such, who cared, and better to get past the "rebel" phase given how many people get addicted to the shit especially in our areas

wide chasm
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I don't like beer

left swift
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jfc stop with the shit pic reactions

wide chasm
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I mean, I don't drink alcohol in general, so that probably has something to do with it

worn ember
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thats why stef has so many braincells left

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it all makes sense now

magic river
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beer, ale, lager, whatever you want to call it, they're all terrible

left swift
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also cuz he doesnt talk to u ded

worn ember
magic river
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rum and whiskey, on the other hand...

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Or pretty much anything other than gin, tbh

left swift
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the person responding to you is actually just a self training AI

worn ember
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still gives better responses than you

left swift
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ai are always better sadge

magic river
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I'm convinced the only people who actually like gin are english pensioners

left swift
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and Ryan Reynolds

worn ember
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I like gin

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My dad likes gin. My sister likes gin...

magic river
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Do you also like to vacation in Spain and yell at people for not speaking English very well?

warm anchor
left swift
worn ember
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No. We don't go on vacation

left swift
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spend all the vacation money on gin

worn ember
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We got too many animals to take care of

left swift
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I still remember that time you were gonna shoot ur neighbors dog with like an air gun

warm anchor
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Ded that’s very rude to call your family animal

left swift
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that's rude eternity is a nice person probably

waxen panther
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ded moment

worn ember
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500iq guy here again too

left swift
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where

warm anchor
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broccolai (awake) (logging into Destiny)

waxen panther
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I wish

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Housemates birthday today I have to be social

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No GRINDING 😟

left swift
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gross

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imagine not owning ur own house

warm anchor
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brocco doesn’t pay rent

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He lives in JRoy’s heart rent-free.

left swift
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jroy come to brazil

worn ember
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why would you willingly go to brazil

magic river
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Who would ever want to go to... 🥷

left swift
waxen panther
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@cunning raft

vernal moth
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Nice

worn ember
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when was the giant dip?

glass crag
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2022 off to a great start

left swift
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crypto down bad

vernal moth
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When they announced that people don't use Facebook

worn ember
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lmfao

wide chasm
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Yeah, that sounds like a dumb move

waxen panther
worn ember
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well they're not wrong

left swift
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they own instagram

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ofc no one but antivaxxers use fb

magic river
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Yeah, that sounds like a dumb legally required move
FTFY

vernal moth
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First time ever their daily active users went down

plucky sparrow
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Facebook is just outdated and really boring

vernal moth
plucky sparrow
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I only see grannies using it

worn ember
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If you shit on your users long enough eventually there will be non left to shit on

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literally only go on fb to check my messages

magic river
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People actually give Blizzard money though so you can figure that stuff out via proxy data

vernal moth
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I haven't logged into Facebook for like a decade

wide chasm
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I don't have a Facebook account

magic river
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I still get on Facebook like once a year

worn ember
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what do you do to make new friends then? Talk in real life or something?

magic river
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Usually on my birthday

worn ember
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digsusting

wide chasm
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Who says I make new friends?

worn ember
magic river
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I don't scroll through my feed though, I looked at it last year and it was full of my aunt tagging me with stories about Fauci working with Gates and Soros to murder everyone

worn ember
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yikes

wide chasm
worn ember
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i put off adding family for a long time lol

worn ember
magic river
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I only ever really used it for family

wide chasm
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No, it's not late, it's for your next birthday in 2023

magic river
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Like, I added people from high school on there as they found me through my sister and I have a few online friends on there still I think

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But the main point was to stay in touch with family because otherwise I get told the day before or day of an event since they organized it all on Facebook

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Or asked a week later why I didn't show up

worn ember
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i sometimes forget how old i am kek

magic river
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At some point I stopped giving a shit about that though, if they don't want to tell me I don't want to go

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Dude I never remember how old I am

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I always have to do 2022-1986 when someone asks

worn ember
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lmao same

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well 1998 for me

wide chasm
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My age is the current year - 2001, except between December 7th and December 31st.

magic river
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Fucking children

worn ember
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smh millenials

wide chasm
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Hey, I'm 21, I'm a very mature adult! /s

worn ember
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i'm 24 and couldn't be more childish kek

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being a grumpy man is boring anyway

left swift
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old

worn ember
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ur like 12

left swift
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x2

worn ember
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in like 10 years i can start saying "i could be your dad"

left swift
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wdym there are parents at 17

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ask ur dad

void void
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I mean, seeing how some people behave here you could be ^

magic river
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Hmm, I'm probably old enough to be your dad

dense compass
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nah you can already say that now but im not sure if'd want that

worn ember
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17+12 > 24

magic river
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It would be close

worn ember
minor otter
left swift
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you'll have to get out the ouija board

worn ember
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that never stopped me

magic river
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Being wrong or being dead?

left swift
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yes

magic river
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I guess you're always ded

worn ember
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yes

worn ember
minor otter
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It was a joke 🥺
👉 👈

granite slate
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😦 Windows is so damn slow. I wanna switch but I need OneNote and touch drivers . Any suggestions?

waxen panther
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Stop using one note, touch screen worked on my laptop without any additional work

granite slate
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One note is the only thing I like about Microsoft. And I need it

daring gulch
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Resoph notes for pc, synced to simplenote (Android)

granite slate
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I need some note taking app that allows me to draw on it

waxen panther
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im pretty sure onenote works on linux

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i have used their other applications on linux in the past

worn ember
minor otter
worn ember
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Tuple<Deez, Nuts>

untold meadow
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one note works fine on Linux - i even used to use it on a Chromebook and it worked fine

native wolf
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Why? Just go to their website and either download directly or via torrent

void void
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Their website is down, but you can just grab the download links via archive.org

native wolf
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That isn't needed

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Go here

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@void void

strong vector
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the download site is working for me

void void
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Looks like it's back up

strong vector
vernal moth
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Is that an ad?

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I don't know

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Can I ban?

lavish compass
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@twin lagoon happeepoheart

magic river
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They were complaining about getting a .ga domain the other day I think

vernal moth
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The website is sketch

twin lagoon
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just kick / mute

lavish compass
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good morning

vernal moth
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Oh it uses google cause it's hosted on Google

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Kekw

left swift
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ban hammer FeelsBanMan

wide chasm
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Advertising is not against community guidelines

left swift
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since when

wide chasm
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Ever since we didn't put it in the community guidelines

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Which is quite a while now I believe

left swift
untold copper
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wtf

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papermc staff wrongly bans innocent 12 year old

wide chasm
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Yeah, don't see why that would have been a ban

untold copper
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wait what

vernal moth
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It's fair to get rid of unsolicited ads

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We always have been doing that

untold copper
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yeah exaclty

left swift
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this is a can o worms

untold copper
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its always been that way

wide chasm
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No, we haven't. It's not stated in the community guidelines and we have had consensus previously that advertising is fine.

untold copper
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hm

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interesting

twin lagoon
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never seen someone not ban for unsollicited copypaste ads

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but you do you

void void
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Apparently it's only explicitly banned in usernames

left swift
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we can advertise

twin lagoon
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advertise PogPause

wide chasm
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We have even unbanned someone previously who appealed for being banned for advertising as it is not stated in the community guidelines.

magic river
twin lagoon
quasi valley
lavish compass
void void
untold copper
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oK thEn CaN i AdVeRtiSe My WeBsITe AnD GeT NoT BaNnNeD????/?

void void
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They always include that

untold copper
#

apparently discord, nitro, and steam in one sentence is enough for some people to have an orgasm

worn ember
#

uh ok

viscid wedge
#

Can I advertise my drug ring?

worn ember
#

can i advertise my drug rehabilitation center after?

neat oyster
frank otter
#

can I advertise my political party?

little frost
gray shuttle
#

xapt au dnas dks?

lavish compass
#

@untold meadow AYAYARie

untold meadow
#

@lavish compass maddyhug

left swift
#

@plucky sparrow AYAYARie

neat oyster
plucky sparrow
vernal moth
#

Just don't please

marble lark
#

i was about to rickroll y'all but alright

left swift
#

how was the burger mini

#

like 5 hours late PEPW

neat oyster
#

imagin if breathing was not a involuntary activity and you have to breath every time and if u forgor u die

void void
#

sounds like you read manas bio

neat oyster
#

yes

#

but imagin if it was not when we realize

#

and it was by default manual

#

death rate ++

#

we will never know maybe animals breathe manualy thats why they live shorter than humans

maiden kestrel
#

oops

#

wrong channel xD

neat oyster
#

xd

maiden kestrel
#

didnt even notice i wasnt in paperdev cuz thats where i always am lol

neat oyster
#

lol

neat oyster
maiden kestrel
#

lol

wide chasm
#

iirc dolphins need to breath manually

void void
#

poor dolphins :(

solemn yarrow
#

Is there a Caseopening Plugin for 1.16.5 thats working?

left swift
#

yeah whales and dolphins hold their breath

neat oyster
frank otter
#

it makes sense given how they work

#

if they could breathe automatically they'd probably forget about it and die

#

maybe

magic river
#

Imagine looking for a lootbox plugin for an outdated version of Minecraft

fickle burrow
#

hello , im a create a one server for my old school , im create on 1.18.1 but i cant add plugins like wordedit or visual mods, like a chair or tables.... can help me?

warped pelican
#

some people will stop breathing if they don't do it voluntarily

#

dozing off even for a while is lethal for them

#

from what i remember they need to be on a bulky ventilator whenever they need to actually sleep

vernal moth
#

Iron lungs

#

Polio caused something similar

#

Thankfully that's not really a thing anymore

#

I saw something recently of a guy in an iron lung that can't get spares anymore easily

neat oyster
#

sad

lament patio
#

This conversation is making me breathe manually

vernal moth
true canyon
#

qop is op

magic river
#

qop top

worthy geode
#

not using the drow arcana, smh

warm anchor
#

Too poor for Arcana

#

Can’t shame them!

worthy geode
#

I kinda regret spending money on it, but its soooo nice kekw

warm anchor
#

That’s how valve get you!

worthy geode
#

and they even got me to play more because of the second style unlock kekw

worn ember
spark gate
#

Is @upbeat falcon open source?

vernal moth
#

Check the paper org

#

Oh the repo is private 😂

#

So that's a no then

warm anchor
#

Sulu said his code is a mess or something like that. Not presentable PepeLa

#

(But it’s probably better than most)

spark gate
#

._. than a question: what’s the best google api like in pencil

true canyon
worn ember
#

I'm still at a restaurant atm

worthy geode
vernal bone
spark gate
#

It doesn’t matter wich language. Could maybe some of the people that have access to pencil say me the name of the api please? I can make the optimizing stuff and implementation in my bot

vernal moth
#

I would assume it's ddg

#

But lemme check

#

Ah no it's google

spark gate
vernal moth
#

Google gives you like 200 bucks for free each month so that should be plenty

spark gate
#

So you paid for an api-key

vernal moth
#

5 bucks per 1k queries, first 100 free

#

Seems fair

#

Even with 1k query every day you below the 200 mark

spark gate
#

True

#

Thx

vernal moth
#

Oh the 200 credit is only for maps

cloud slate
#

I was curious about how useful/stupid/pointless/overcomplicated/yni this thought is I had.

A system, where the server would have a setting to listen for specific requests from selected IPs + ports with an initial secret.
The prox would have the same setup, but would be the sender, sending an initial request to the server with the secret. If the secret matches would the server send a success response alongside a randomly generated secret for the proxy to use.
For extra safety (I guess) would the proxy send a heartbeat to the server every minute and the server would respond with a new random secret to use, which the proxy would send alongside player info whenever a player joins to make sure it's a valid join from a "safe" proxy...

Those are the kinds of thoughts that keep me away from working on my plugins. ablobpanic

ashen cliff
#

So just like we set up our VMs? 🛌

glass crag
#

what is a safe proxy

#

or an unsafe proxy

worn ember
#

And what does that accomplish exactly?

cloud slate
#

In my mind, this would be a secure connection between a proxy and server, preventing outside proxies from connecting.... In theory

worn ember
#

is this like a minecraft specific thing or just a server in general?

magic river
#

You've just described a worse version of TLS 🙂

red timber
#

weird security model

rancid void
#

So my provider is asking me to switch huh

#

Vodafthinking_gunne

vernal moth
#

That's pretty common sadly

#

If you don't pass safety net

#

But why does your root void safety net?

rancid void
vernal moth
#

Oh didn't even see

#

That's prolly a lost cause then

rancid void
#

The good news: Vodafone being Vodafone, the detection is bad and can be bypassed

vernal moth
#

It's not their fault

#

They just use some toolkit to ensure the integrity of the app

rancid void
#

There are multiple for tweaks for bypassing JB detection out there

#

I’ve seen a few apps I was unable to bypass the detection on (Oracle cloud and German VR bank to name 2)

vernal moth
#

Don't think anybody detects my current root on android

rancid void
#

Please don’t screenshot my NFT

vernal moth
#

Let's not get into that shit show

magic river
#

You can make a root detector that can't be bypassed, although more likely they'll just have one that is a PITA to bypass

vernal moth
#

Without the app having elevated permissions?

magic river
#

Dunno if non-system apps can rely on that or not though

#

Looks like they can

#

Although not to the point of making a bypass impossible, you can still mod the app itself

vernal moth
#

Magisk patches apps I think

magic river
#

Although if the app relies on a network connection the backend can use this to block you

vernal moth
#

Like their magisk hide does something to any app you select and then the app lets you thru

magic river
#

MagiskHide doesn't do anything about this afaik, it just patches the local checks

#

This one also doesn't work if the device doesn't have internet access

cunning raft
vernal moth
#

Oh they removed that and let third party modules handle that nowadays

cunning raft
#

their dev works on platform security @ google now

#

and you need to do it on a per app basis now

#

due to new safetynet changes

magic river
#

Now it's a TPM (well, similar) enforced chain of trust from bootloader to app and every step in that chain is able to check whether you've broken the chain in a way you can't block, more or less

#

At the app level it's still more like DRM, unless the app talks to a server to do anything useful, then they can lock it down entirely

vernal moth
#

Oh they actually verify stuff on a server now in safetynet

cunning raft
#

yeah

vernal moth
#

"key attestation api'

cunning raft
#

correct

magic river
#

I suppose even if the app doesn't normally need a server they can implement that to be sure but then their app doesn't work without a network connection even though it doesn't really need it

#

But apps are all just frontends for servers these days anyway and who doesn't have a network connection?

vernal moth
magic river
#

So the only reason every app isn't broken when you root your phone or install LineageOS is because this is an extra thing app developers have to do

vernal moth
#

They just patch safetynet lol

magic river
#

How can you have valid build fingerprints with LineageOS or a patched kernel for Magisk?

#

And that still won't work if the app actually uses the server to do things, the server can reject you because you aren't in a valid state

cunning raft
#

safteynet results are signed by google

vernal moth
#

How does the app detect that tho?

cunning raft
#

so yeah

vernal moth
#

You pass safety net, but only the basic one

cunning raft
#

you can check that programmatically

#

it's in the SN response

vernal moth
#

They basically spoof that the device doesn't support key attestation

cunning raft
#

correct

magic river
#

Signature goes to server along with the API request, server calls out to Google to verify the signature, signature fails so server returns a 403 and/or bans you

vernal moth
#

So safetynet falls back

magic river
#

Google Pay doesn't work without key attestation 😄

cunning raft
#

you'd need to also have some props of a device that actually cannot do key attestation

magic river
#

And a bunch of other stuff doesn't either

cunning raft
#

however i think you will fail CTS without it

vernal moth
#

They only spoof it for safety net, not all of Google Play

#

Well, whatever, I haven't needed any of this in a long while, so am extremely out of the loop

magic river
#

I tried to put LineageOS on my OP7T in December, it wasn't usable because of this stuff

#

I had tried right after I got the phone too and it was fine back then but it was only in 2021 that all of this started getting locked down more

brave mountain
#

@frail mirage

#

it doesn't matter if your router has DHCP enabled, what matter is that you have set a static address on the servers

frail mirage
#

Yes its always been the same IPs for all connected HW

#

...checking port status on server

brave mountain
#

the DHCP have a range, example 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.150, you servers must have a addresses outside that range

#

otherwise it can cause ip mismatch

frail mirage
#

Velocity pimary port is open

#

velocity and all servers are running on the same machine

brave mountain
frail mirage
#

no, I have terminal windows open for each server, velocity and playit.gg

brave mountain
#

ok, did you set the ports of the velocity at 25565, and other servers, different like 25566, 25567... and set it on velocity.toml

frail mirage
#

yes, velocity and all backend servers run fine for past 2yrs

#

I canged all the port #s but they all work fine

brave mountain
#

mhh ok, can you chat me on dm the router/firewall model?

frail mirage
#

yup 1sec

viscid wedge
spare venture
#

ancient but i’ve never seen that before

glass crag
#

Classic

#

That issue makes me nervous every time I rmrf

brave mountain
brave mountain
lavish abyss
#

LOLOLOL

#

Honestly though...

#

Whoever got the installation script out there undetected

magic river
#

bumblebee or whatever

#

nvidia hybrid graphics thing

merry talon
#

like this is a long standing thing in the mc community, you don't spam ads in random places

spare venture
#

different mods have different styles, some stick to the rules, some make them up because you cant have a rule for every situation

#

like how there are no rules on nfts, politics, etc.

true canyon
#

@worn ember dota2

tropic flame
#

i wonder how complex it'd be to make a protection system in Minecraft that acts a bit like an MMORPG - as in, a protected passage in the world might be shown as closed off for clients that are not allowed enter, similar to how players in an MMORPG see a certain entrance as blocked if they don't meet the requirements, for example

#

of course, they'd always see other players that can go in as if they were crossing the blocks like a ghost

#

and I don't know if the client would freak out with that

#

but uh, idk just an idea i had

#

as opposed to just teleporting you back if you don't have permission

warm anchor
#

so you mean worldguard region?

true canyon
#

Here I am thinking I had the worst game ever.

#

Meanwhile ursa spent half the game dead

warm anchor
#

da,n you still playing??

broken mortar
#

Does paper mc stop you from breaking portal frames?

warm anchor
#

yes but you can config it in paper.yml

broken mortar
#

ok thanks

tropic flame
#

basically the server would send different blocks to the client

#

player is not allowed to enter region? show region as closed behind a stone wall, for example

#

or if they are allowed, they won't see the wall

#

i don't think WorldGuard can do that

warm anchor
#

yeah that sounds more complicated

tropic flame
#

(hence my MMORPG example)

#

yeah

lilac moon
#

probably some protocollib stuff

south matrix
#

Player#sendBlockChange trollface

thin flume
#

do you guys happen to know how to use .step files

magic river
#

TIL there is an addon to USB PD that isn't the 240W mode

#

There is also USB PD PPS, Programmable Power Supply

#

Let's your phone renegotiate the amps and volts on the fly instead of forcing a disconnect then going through the whole handshake

#

It's for fast charging so they can ramp up even higher at the start when it's safer to pump major wattage into the battery

#

S20 was the first phone to have it so it's pretty new

neat oyster
#

OkayChamp B O I

magic river
#

Finally got around to Attack on Titan Final Season, the opening animation/music is awesome

worn ember
solid siren
#

is it bad to sell spawners to players

neat oyster
#

but if it is like a rare item it is same as fining a skele spawner

solid siren
#

i see i see

#

thank you

golden gust
#

spawners are a plague for performance

#

they can be cash cows but there are many a server owners who wishes that they didn't

novel horizon
#

If you want to have some economy and even if you don't have one, it breaks it, basically.. It depends, but you get into the point having multiple spawners of some things and then you can just farm them and sell them really cheap, it really depends on the type of spawners

neat oyster
#

WHY

smoky cloud
novel horizon
#

Money?

solid siren
#

i see thank you for responses

vernal moth
#

Why do you post unrelated Screenshots here? Lol

#

I wanna post a who asked gif but that would be mean

#

So please all just image that gif

foggy veldt
#

Speaking of who asked I can’t decide what I should eat for breakfast

neat oyster
#

bcz idk

#

ded chat

foggy veldt
#

Part of me wants cereal but the other part wants tuna

neat oyster
#

both

#

eat both

foggy veldt
#

All parts of me don’t want a stomach ache

vernal moth
#

Nothing beats a good müsli with yogurt and fresh fruits

golden gust
#

might I suggest the ultimate breakfast

#

a few mentos

#

and swig it down with some coke

foggy veldt
#

Mouth volcano :o

#

I used to get candy from the vending machine when I had a 7am lecture and I was too lazy to get brekky

#

It would be so embarrassing when the room is silent and my stomach growls

golden gust
#

same

#

pin balls ❤️

#

morning lectures with a can of monster and a packet of pin balls

wide chasm
#

If the room is silent, what is the lecturer doing?

worn ember
#

7am is a perfectly reasonable time to drink coke

golden gust
#

droning on about some shit nobody can pay attention to

#

My fave ones one was the 9am lecture where the lecturer basically has only a single tone of voice and just drones on and on and on and on and on and on and on

wide chasm
#

It's been a while since I've had a 9am lecture

#

They usually try to put them a bit later in the day

golden gust
#

yea, I left uni a while ago

#

defo do NOT miss 9am lectures

#

we had an 11am one, that was, weird

foggy veldt
golden gust
#

11-1, or something like that, but it rarely lasted the entire length, and then we'd have like a 3pm lecture

wide chasm
#

Literally all my lectures last period were at 11am

foggy veldt
#

Earliest I had was I think 7am and latest was 6pm

golden gust
#

Nothing like when they schedule two lectures on a day with a sizable break between them

#

had that in college too, was a friday too

wide chasm
#

7am? If I had lectures at 7am I'd have to wake up at 5am

golden gust
#

in at like 9am until 11, and then another lecture at like 2 or something

wide chasm
#

I generally try to fill those spots up by putting other classes in there

golden gust
#

We don't really have a thing like that over here

foggy veldt
#

Ye 5 or earlier sometimes because my suite mate also had 7ams and I had to beat him to the shower if I didn’t want to rush to the bus

golden gust
#

like, final year we got to pick some modules for the year but it's not like you could pick more to get more points

wide chasm
#

Well, I don't have choice in what courses I pick either, I can only pick a minor and within the minor I chose there was one pair of courses you could chose between. But there are multiple practical sessions for courses and you only have to be in one group, so I can still schedule those whenever I want.

golden gust
#

I lived close enough to uni that I coulda gone to my flat when I was there durin that time but it felt kinda bad to leave my mates on their lonesome, so only time I went home was when I was getting lunch

#

Yea, our CS stuff didn't have that, the labs where available if they where empty or you could sneak in the corner sometimes if they had free seats where weren't doing much, but otherwise that was your plan and anything between lectures was spent in somewhere like mcdonalds or in the library

wide chasm
#

Our courses make enough space so that every student in the course can attend everything, so there's always a spot in a lab.

#

Well, given Covid, for lectures there's a max. of 75 people, so that doesn't hold for lectures currently, but before Covid that was the case.

golden gust
#

the rooms generally always had enough seats for the class, was more just where you could spend time between lectures

simple karma
#

from spigot discord, i felt like i had to share it with yall

#

man copied entire nano

foggy veldt
#

U copied a screenshot of the guys nano so what does that make you

true canyon
worn ember
#

i know sad i got tired from eating too much kek

true canyon
#

Whatcha eatin

vernal moth
golden gust
#

😄

worn ember
#

pork tenderloin with fries, was great

golden gust
#

twitter next, plz

worn ember
#

delete socials

cunning raft
#

man it would suck if i couldn't see any European's tweets

#

😐

#

i'd be missing out on so much

#

😐

worn ember
#

targetted ads, what are those? -written by adblock gang

golden gust
#

horror is that so much stuff happens on socials now

vernal moth
#

Remember back when the internet had no borders?

worn ember
#

just make adblockers mandatory for fb so they can still serve them, we just dont see them

golden gust
#

it's sadly one of the few primary news sources

worn ember
#

i hope thats a joke

golden gust
#

It's not

waxen panther
#

Remember back when the internet had among us?

worn ember
#

dark times

golden gust
#

it's where all of the news providers post their takes which they want people to see, it's where people discuss about stuff

worn ember
#

i wish the internet could go back to that unregulated mess, but reality is different i'm afraid

vernal moth
#

Social media often isn't the primary source

cunning raft
#

stopping before this gets to politics

golden gust
#

social media is where people share the news and discuss it

worn ember
#

using words is political for you

vernal moth
#

So it's secondary

timber sentinel
#

papermc general is my primary news source

foggy silo
#

Of course

cunning raft
glass crag
#

is it secondary if people only read the headline and the comments

worn ember
#

ah yes the funny

waxen panther
#

one day core team will know their own rules trollface

golden gust
#

well, it's weird, for many if it's not shared on socials nobody sees it; I kinda just wanna see twitter and facebook die and just watch all that falls from it

glass crag
#

and facebook is still the "curator" of the news stories people see i suppose

worn ember
#

if one falls another will pop in its place probably

#

gotta get those likes for posting something you ripped from somewhere else

golden gust
#

Gotta get those internet points, you know

#

best hot takes = more internet points = more feel good zoom feelin'

worn ember
#

gotta get that dopamine

golden gust
#

Reminds me of something somebody said once

#

the worse part about the internet is that you can't punch somebody in the face 😄

worn ember
#

true

quasi valley
#

The worst part about the internet is that ur on it

golden gust
#

I liked the world better when prisoner island seemed much further away

foggy veldt
#

I kinda like targeted ads, I’d rather local pc parts in your area vs local milfs in your area

golden gust
#

I mean, targeted ads are targeted

wide chasm
#

Brilliant deduction

golden gust
#

only sites which really care for the milf adverts are the lowbrow ones

worn ember
golden gust
#

Sooo, protip: You can enable your extentions to work in incognito mode in the management page thing

foggy veldt
#

Mommy? Sorry

golden gust
#

just select the extention and hit the button to allow it

#

then you can shake a stick without milfs looking at you

waxen panther
still sorrel
#

I just looked at some kotlin

neat oyster
#

you can never escape amongus

still sorrel
#

didn't like it 3 years ago because the syntax is ugly af

#

only used java back then

#

now I used PHP and TypeScript

#

god I love the kotlin syntax now

waxen panther
#

ok

foggy veldt
#

I love any syntax plz hire me

still sorrel
#

have you ever written anything in dn?

foggy veldt
#

Yup

still sorrel
true canyon
#

@worn ember CATCH ME AN AGHANIM

golden gust
#

I mean, I started using kotlin years ago, and especially in the J8 days I'd use it fairly often, especially for prototyping

#

modern java is getting better and when most of my work is paper or contract stuff, one doesn't get too much of a chose cos the guy you work for doesn't wanna have to get a kotlin and java dev in an ecosystem full of java devs

#

Overall I kinda liked kotlin and wish I used it more

#

only real issue I have with it is some stupid decisions and the devs who use it

#

(It's all fun and games until somebody implements 90% of their plugins features in extention functions)

still sorrel
#

hmmm

#

extension methods seem kinda nice

cunning raft
still sorrel
cunning raft
#

ok

golden gust
#

I've also yet to play with the coroutine stuff as what was still experimental around that time

still sorrel
#

would abuse the fuck out of this with all my util classes

golden gust
#

(and, I was still hooked on taskchain)

#

it's cancer for working on other codebases

glass crag
#

i worked with c# for 3 years, so im so thankful kotlin exists, java has a lot of catching up to do

#

c# is an amazing language

golden gust
#

it's all cool when you remember all the crud you made but working on others codebases, sod that

still sorrel
#

actually this would work for static method calls

#

MyUtil.someMethod(input)

#

how would that even look with an extension function

wide chasm
#

input.someMethod() ?

still sorrel
#

but then you'd have to import the method

cunning raft
#

top tier kotlin dev right here

glass crag
#

you'd have to import whatever you do

still sorrel
#

you know what, maybe these were a mistake

glass crag
#

you can also just create a function someMethod(input)

golden gust
#

theres defo some nice aspects to them but devs go fucking crazy with them for some reason

still sorrel
#
person = Person("Grey")
Person.getName(person)```
#

python be like

glass crag
#

my favourite kotlin feature is all the functional list methods

foggy veldt
#

Have you tried Scala

wide chasm
#

Yeah, Python's OO design is not... perfect

#

Scala is interesting

golden gust
#

I found that got annoying cos there was many ones which seemed kinda basic missing

#

Scala looked interesting but the curve is too damned high

glass crag
#

yeah scala looks scary 😆

golden gust
#

Scala devs fucking love the thing like magical white powder

wide chasm
#

It embraces immutability much better and supports it well, whereas in Java immutability is an afterthought.

#

It extends parametric polymorphism compared to Java to make immutable containers also nicer to work with

golden gust
#

to be fair, afaik, immutability is a design concept kinda came later than C/Java, etc

foggy veldt
#

I write scala like java code but I know a bunch of Haskell devs really like it’s functional side

wide chasm
#

But Java has done the absolute bare minimum to support immutability better.

golden gust
#

muh source compat

wide chasm
#

I guess records kinda do, but still

golden gust
#

I think that's generally the big issue is that ABI and source compat are big issues for java

wide chasm
#

Supporting immutability doesn't have to mean breaking compatibility (although wouldn't mind that either).

#

But in that sense, Scala is much nicer

golden gust
#

supporting immutability properly would require breaks

still sorrel
#

does scala also enfore not null unless specified through method arguments?

golden gust
#

that was the general issue as to why it was bodged on the way it was

#

there is no sane way to mark something as immutable bar an interface

#

Now what do you do with those Map methods, etc?

wide chasm
#

Scala allows nullability by default I believe, but it goes with the Optional route (Option in Scala).

golden gust
#

at least, idk any sane way they could represent it much outside of that

wide chasm
#

Well, properly splitting would break code, but even just a marker interface to specify it would be better than the current situation.

golden gust
#

mfw it was guava with the interface

#

smh

#

I mean, the marker interface is a shoddy solution but, eeer

still sorrel
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if only rust was a thing before 2010

wide chasm
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Better than nothing

golden gust
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I mean, it's one of those ones where you're in shit creak

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you can either go left or right

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but, you're still trodding through shit creak

wide chasm
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If you currently want to check if a container is immutable, try to add something to it and then catch an UnsupportedOperationException, yuck

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I mean, Java devs seem to be more open to breaking compatibility these days - doubt they'll go this far - but I can dream

golden gust
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idk of any real breaks recently

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outside of things like the reflection stuff which they said they where gonna break a decade ago or something

neat oyster
golden gust
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Still waiting for them to yeet the serialisation API

wide chasm
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JS engine as well

golden gust
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then again

still sorrel
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in PHP land we break compatibility only through a new major. anything that will break is deprecated on the last minor before the next major

wide chasm
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Was it called Rihorn or smth

still sorrel
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deprecated stuff actually removed

foggy silo
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Why do they insist on holding onto that serialization api lol

golden gust
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they are yeeting the security manager

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So much is written using that POS

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so they wanna get rid of it but enterprises are probs all like "plzno"

wide chasm
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Pretty sure there were some very minor method removals as well, but would have to check

still sorrel
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not talking about the language itself

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but in projects

pallid edge
still sorrel
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Symfony and anything in its ecosystem to be specific

golden gust
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and yea, they got rid of the JS engine as it was basically unmaintained and graal go brr, or something

wide chasm
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I mean, that was still quite a "major" break

golden gust
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yea, but not source or ABI break

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an alternative was/is available

pallid edge
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Would you say it's fine to upload closed-source premium (=paid) plugin jars on my public github repo? (since they're technically GPL even if they don't want to)

golden gust
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their violation of our license is not justification for you to violate theirs

pallid edge
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mh okay

golden gust
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I just upload that stuff to my own maven repo which is protected with a password which kinda sucks ass in many respects

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sometimes I've also done the erm, not so nice things

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cos, fuck you if you're gonna lock shit behind a door and not offer a proper API

pallid edge
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Well thing is, I wanna use their API. And my plugin is public, so I'd need to make them accessible to other developers wanting to contribute as well

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So a password iis suboptimal

golden gust
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really gotta make a tool which shits out a stub jar for crap like that

pallid edge
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But doesn't GPL state that a software using GPL is GPL as well? (Thus making their own license useless)

golden gust
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Once again

pallid edge
still sorrel
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obfuscated plugin detection in paper when?

golden gust
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their violation does not condone your violation

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Yea, just removes all the code

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leaves fields/methods, etc, there

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those plugins should be GPL'd, but, given that nobody has really enforced that for years, it's like, fun

pallid edge
still sorrel
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oh wow its finally inactive

pallid edge