general

[golden gust]

etc, etc, etc

it makes sense that omething simpler would be nice

but, people aren't going to bork their setups and have to resolve issues that the tooling solved decades ago

okay, just shy of 2 decades

[still sorrel]

simplicity is king though

[topaz mortar]

Maven (13 July 2004; 17 years ago) / Gradle (21 April 2008; 13 years ago)

NPM (12 January 2010; 12 years ago)

😄

[still sorrel]

yeah maven is old

I just remember how many hours I wasted trying to do stuff with maven

wait has no terminal at the bottom

[golden gust]

simplicity is not king when you kill everything that was destroyed before

or, well, solved before

you gain a simple json file to specify deps

[topaz mortar]

Of course it has.

[golden gust]

you lose custom repos, you lose deployment, you lose invocation of custom tasks to do stuff, you lose pluginability, etc, etc

[still sorrel]

oh I clicked a few random things and now its here

[topaz mortar]

Basically you lose.

[still sorrel]

you wouldn't lose custom repos, that'd be easy to implement

[golden gust]

the way npm and node in general works just doesn't translate much elsewhere

well, you'd need to implement maven support in your tool

and, yea, I guess you could keep custom repos, but, last I knew that generally went against the mould

[still sorrel]

life as a PHP/JS dev has been too good on me

[topaz mortar]

You basically named the two worst languages in my opinion.

[still sorrel]

everything has its purpose

[golden gust]

the thing is that those tools basically just slap some stuff in a folder and that's basically that

[still sorrel]

yeah there is no compiled version

[golden gust]

maybe they'll invoke a few custom things to process out resources through compose or whatever

in java, you have much stuff which is handled through the dependency management/build tools which wouldn't translate over

you'd still be bound to processing maven poms and maven repos as your core consumption

you'd need to figure out deployment, hooking in javac properly, ensuring annotation processors work, etc, etc

[still sorrel]

now how do I compile this

somehow built it

I think... no clue where the build went```
BUILD SUCCESSFUL in 416ms
1 actionable task: 1 executed
20:22:03: Execution finished.

[golden gust]

build/libs

[topaz mortar]

build/libs

[still sorrel]

maybe I didn't build it

....

[golden gust]

idk what you ran, but, running the build task should build a jar

[still sorrel]

which built task should I run

[golden gust]

build

[still sorrel]

there is a jar now

[zenith dragon]

Anyone using an OVH dedi and knows how to set up automatic backups? Final step before we transfer from our awful host to a dedi and we're a little stuck.

[golden gust]

er

well, basically

rdiff, borg, rsnapshot, etc, etc

[zenith dragon]

Okay I'll be honest, it's my partner that's setting it up I'm just doing the run around to try and find info for him and I've no idea what any of that means.

[waxen panther]

google them

[golden gust]

those are different tools for managing backups

assuming that you have some space to store those backups

[zenith dragon]

I was going to reply with the standard "wow google" response but...

but yeah, I'll pass that info on - thanks!

https://tenor.com/view/owen-wilson-owen-wilson-amazing-wonderful-gif-6103373

I was aiming for this ^

but thank you for the tip 😛 I was heading to google!

[waxen panther]

i am so proud of you

[zenith dragon]

thank you, thank you

I shall take a bow

😂

[left swift]

you wouldn't understand, googling is an advanced debugging method used only by people with masters in compsci (computer science for you laymen) and a full understanding of windows vista operating system in a professional setting. hmph. I would understand why it would be so hard for a commoner to use.

[rare tiger]

to be fair you have to have very high IQ in order to Google a technical question

[golden gust]

why does my urine smell like burning

[rare tiger]

Not gonna be active on Discord tonight. I'm meeting a girl (a real one) in half an hour (wouldn't expect a lot of you to understand anyway) so please don't DM me asking me where I am (im with the girl, ok) you'll most likely get aired because i'll be with the girl (again I don't expect you to understand) shes actually really interested in me and its not a situation i can pass up for some meaningless Discord degenerates (because i'll be meeting a girl, not that you really are going to understand) this is my life now. Meeting women and not wasting my precious time online, I have to move on from such simple things and branch out (you wouldnt understand)

[left swift]

why doing taste the metal when sneezing?

[golden gust]

just cos you use hand moustiriser now doesn't make your hand a girl hand

||it just makes you seem like a bitch||

[rare tiger]

i'm in a long distance relationship with my body pillow

[waxen panther]

we know

[rare tiger]

i will never consider the opinion of a 3D woman

[waxen panther]

where

[left swift]

ur in a long distance relationship with my fist

[lavish compass]

@twin lagoon

[golden gust]

mfw long distance is about an inch

[waxen panther]

@lavish compass

cubxity when

[lavish compass]

when

[left swift]

@plucky sparrow BEST DAP OMG BESTEST🍦 🍦

[waxen panther]

when cubxity

[lavish compass]

idk

when

[waxen panther]

hurry up!

[twin lagoon]

[twin lagoon]

TRUE when @lavish compass

[waxen panther]

when

[lavish compass]

when (cubxity) {

}

[twin lagoon]

when (cubxity) {
write(microservice)
}
???

[plucky sparrow]

@left swift BEST NOMANA OMG OMG OMG THE BESTEST OF THE BEST 🧱⛵

[fallen oracle]

Mfw rebuilding a docker container completely kills the machine. System load 37

[lavish compass]

how

[fallen oracle]

Because the system it's running on is some cheap VPS.

I'm going to switch it to publishing to GitHub registry and just pulling probabaly.

[runic drum]

@void void According to my benchmarks single core perf of E cores are only like 20-25% lower than P cores. Which is impressive and can compete with regular cores of past gen CPUs

[void void]

yeah, I'm pretty sure they are just last gen cores lol

with a power limit

[magic river]

Alder Lake E cores are Atoms

Not Tiger Lake cores

[tawdry hazel]

computer

[magic river]

Looks like the ones in Alder Lake are Gracemont

[golden gust]

Transistors: Intel 7 (previously known as 10ESF)

😄

[magic river]

They're just aligning their bullshit names with TSMC's bullshit names

[void void]

ooh, that's impressive then

[golden gust]

I just remember some of the discussions around it some time ago

[magic river]

Neither one has a part that is 10nm long/wide

[golden gust]

7 is the new 10

[void void]

intel 10 process was closer to tsmc 7nm than anything else yeah

dumb naming anyways but what can you do when everyone else is marketing what their node size is called

[still sorrel]

I remember several years there being libraries included in spigot by default like gson but at some point somebody decided to remove some libraries from the jar

is there an active list of libraries included?

it was related to something like shading with maven, don't quite remember

[vernal moth]

lmfao

so I run a teamspeak server for friends

have been for a decade

and for some reason in my current docker setup, all users have the same IP?

and as such, since someone did a ban, they banned himself and every other useer too

which is fucking hilarious

in the last few years nobody ever did a ban it seems

[vernal bone]

Do you have a proxy in front of the TS serbur?

[vernal moth]

just dockers internal networking it seems

and network_mode: host doesn't work with docker stack deploy 🥳

phoenix616, you are one of the few sad souls that still run a ts server, ever experienced this?

[warm anchor]

[limber knot]

I don't use docker 👀

[worn ember]

overhead kekw

[vernal moth]

guess ill just deploy manually again

fucking useless software

and docker is useless too

why can't I use host network when I do stack deploy?

I don't even use swarm?

[golden gust]

.rekt

o, yea, rip paper chan

[warm anchor]

[vernal moth]

ill just set an IP ban again and link to some discord

[warm anchor]

Time to nag kashi to put out new feature

[void void]

what happened to paper chan

[golden gust]

pimple who ran that instance left the community

[void void]

ah rip

[vernal moth]

somebody should send me the configs

clearly am competent enough to run it

[golden gust]

simple had them and offered them but I was dead and kinda didn't care

he may still have them

[still sorrel]

what was the thing for building paper locally again?

[vernal moth]

paperweight?

[still sorrel]

not build tools?

the server jar

[vernal moth]

ewwww

thats spigot stuff, we don't talk about that

[void void]

sp*got

[golden gust]

buildtools its spigots crud

[still sorrel]

I have been gone for several years ok

[golden gust]

paper uses paperweight but there is very little reason to build a paper jar locally, especially post 1.17

[still sorrel]

but what if you want automatic paper updates

for your dev server

[golden gust]

I mean

[void void]

for adding backdoor to it and then redistributing

[golden gust]

we don't recommend it, but, we have a downloads API you can query for stuff

theres a few scripts floating around to parse the latest build from the API and pull it

[still sorrel]

sounds like more work then worth it

was any revolutionary stuff added afther the persistent data containers?

[void void]

here's a python script, doesn't autoupdate but makes updating a one line command

https://github.com/Owen-Cochell/PaperMC-Update

if you really wanted to, you could have it check for an update and download in your start script ig

[south matrix]

eeeww, python

[void void]

no reason to poop on python for scripting usecase

[south matrix]

just do it in bash

[golden gust]

kinda just maybe wanna make some diddy rust thing or something

ofc, that means doing stuff, and, like, is it bed time yet?

[void void]

the only bash one I saw required extra dependencies anyways

this python script is more full featured

[still sorrel]

python

[golden gust]

Well, yea

but, requires that you install python

[still sorrel]

nah python is cool

[warm anchor]

You gonna wake up the bash wizard

[still sorrel]

already have it installed

[golden gust]

I apparently won't soon 😄

[void void]

is python not preinstalled on a lot of distros? plus likely a dependency for something else you use

[golden gust]

linux is basically the only environment now where python is available by default

[warm anchor]

Not on my

[south matrix]

i made a bash one with curl and jq ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[golden gust]

and that's more cos they have so much shit written in it

[still sorrel]

sounds terrifying

[golden gust]

(which last I knew they where slowly tryna get away)

[south matrix]

i made a spigot auto update script too

[still sorrel]

hm I guess my plugin did alright

basically didnt gain downloads over the past few years

it got forked trice

[void void]

hm, you could use regex probably

to parse curl output for latest build

for no dependency script, except curl

[lavish compass]

https://github.com/Cubxity/docker-minecraft-server/blob/master/paper/build.sh

🙃

[still sorrel]

oh nice

[lavish compass]

requires jq though

[still sorrel]

jq?

[lavish compass]

https://packages.debian.org/stable/jq

110.0 kB install size

[still sorrel]

cannot be bothered

[vernal bone]

Too much. Custom JQ package written in Kotlin when?

[lavish compass]

that would be fat

[still sorrel]

wait is there a JRE for java 17?

[lavish compass]

yes?

[still sorrel]

I thought jars could run standalone in java 17

[lavish compass]

what

[still sorrel]

like you can create a fully functioning java application that doesn't require you to install java

[golden gust]

You can create them

idk anybody who actually uses them though

uses jlink, creates a stripped down jre to ship, basically

[void void]

would it compile to a binary?

[lavish compass]

yeah afaik you need jvm to run java code

[golden gust]

afaik in some capacity yes

never used it cos it's mostly somewhat of a gimmick outside of specific use cases

well, it wouldn't compile paper into a binary, the class files are still class files

[lavish compass]

would rather write in go or rust instead at that point

[golden gust]

it just helps with a shimmed down jre bundle

[void void]

sounds good if you're a java one-trick and need to distribute some apps to non-savvy end users

[still sorrel]

public static @NotNull String getName(@NotNull ItemStack itemStack) {
    return (itemStack.hasItemMeta()) ? itemStack.getItemMeta().getDisplayName() : "";
}
```oh right every non-primitive return type is nullable by default

java™️

[golden gust]

Kotlin is love, kotlin is life

Just, er, adoption, and, kotlin devs...

[still sorrel]

just become a PHP dev and let all your worries slide

optimising code? we don't do that here

[vernal moth]

and your sanity

[void void]

god

[still sorrel]

client needs faster speed? let them pay for a beefier machine

[void void]

I hate php with a passion

[still sorrel]

needs even faster speed? make them pay for making faster machines run in parallel

client doesn't know what optimising code is

hard to internally justify the budget for the client to optimise code if they all monkeys

[golden gust]

I love php

[still sorrel]

Symfony is love

[golden gust]

Like, there are many aspects of the language which are shit

[void void]

you and aikar both

[golden gust]

I've yet to care to get my head around any of the frameworks because, my primary use for php, is when I just wanna get shit done without pissing around

[still sorrel]

I am a Symfony contributor

I built an entire blog with admin panel and login in 1 day

I mean PHP should not be used outside of web stuff

btw did you know it used to be possible to make mc bedrock edition mods with javascript?

[golden gust]

that's the one major thing I love about php is that it generally just lets you get shit done

I mean, why not the full server

[still sorrel]

yeah with java you have to carefully plan out your code and then still end up refactoring it 30 times

[wide chasm]

I mean, make a simple Java plugin to execute JS code, write plugins in JS

[still sorrel]

PHP shines for web stuff because 90% of the lifting can be done by some sort of cache

you cant cache jack shit when it comes to minecraft servers

[wide chasm]

Depends on what you define as caching, you could argue keeping chunks in memory is a form of caching

[still sorrel]

eh when I say caching and bring PHP up its not the sort of cache that is stored in the memory that I am talking about

[void void]

that exists I believe

https://github.com/walterhiggins/ScriptCraft

[wide chasm]

Not surprised

[void void]

doesnt look like still maintained

but seems a much better alternative to "human" code like skript

[still sorrel]

I used to be so invested in skript

that's how I learnt how to code

[wide chasm]

Skript users will use skript, that's not going to change any time soon

[still sorrel]

I knew a guy who made some serious money with his server which was basically running on skript

its fun for people who want to try to make something themselves, but should not be used long term

did aikar release optimised flags for 1.18?

[wide chasm]

Same set of flags as always

So, no, not specific to 1.18

[void void]

apparently the 12GB+ flag changes don't do much good on new versions tho

[left swift]

u don't do good

[void void]

[left swift]

if ur setting more than 12gb on a server something is wrong and its ur fault

[still sorrel]

[void void]

@warm anchor is there rie emote like this

[warm anchor]

Not yet

[void void]

[still sorrel]

2022

is /reload stable now?

[void void]

nope

[still sorrel]

typing /reload answered my question

[waxen panther]

perfect discussion

[left swift]

is brocc stable yet

[void void]

idk but they're a good source of vitamin K and calcium

[warm anchor]

Do you know broccoli has little to no calories and is basically empty inside

Just like @waxen panther

As he pushes through his 20 hour daily Destiny addiction

[waxen panther]

haven't played destiny in at least 20 hours

[little frost]

how many calories in a Starbucks

[warm anchor]

Oh shit. The withdraw is about to kick in

[waxen panther]

depends how many people are in the building emilia

[warm anchor]

[little frost]

how much does the old guy add

[tired heath]

How could I miss that Minecraft supports SRV, since when is this a thing 😄

[vernal moth]

always

but its dodgy cause some ISPs don't implement them properly

[tired heath]

A you mean that some people have problems joining than because of their ISP

I c

[left swift]

celery takes more calories to eat and digest then u get from it

[cunning raft]

@waxen panther

[waxen panther]

@cunning raft ?

can i help

shouldn't you be arguing with someone rn

[cunning raft]

@waxen panther i was seeing if you knew who asked nomana

i couldn't

[waxen panther]

i ask myself that a lot

who can really say who asked mana

[left swift]

I thought this was my diary

anyways

release new essentials xdiscord update

[cunning raft]

md has to wake up

[waxen panther]

leaf woke up 🤣 😂 👐 😂 🤣

[cunning raft]

[waxen panther]

🦅

[left swift]

ok

cringe

[void void]

@south matrix I am proud to announce that there is a small gecko at my place!!

Wh

[south matrix]

by choice?

[void void]

It's about 2~3 in. long and no it just appeared out of nowhere

It's on the wall rn

[south matrix]

so yes, by choice

[void void]

Oh

epic

This fucking picture is 7 MB

[foggy silo]

entry by force

[magic river]

lol the new pokemon game is an isekai

[void void]

another new pokemon game??

since when did hetzner's console look so nice

[still sorrel]

https://github.com/google/guice

ok so this handles autowiring for me

now I just need to get a list of all the classes tagged with a specific interface or annotation

probably a lib for that too

[vernal moth]

Class graph

[still sorrel]

why doesn't paper automatically register event listeners

and command executers

[vernal moth]

Because it robs you of control

[still sorrel]

maybe I have been playing in the PHP sandbox foor too long where automatic service tagging was a thing

how so?

[vernal moth]

What if you only want to register a listener if it's enabled in the config?

[still sorrel]

uh

fair enough

[vernal moth]

And you can easily build something yourself for that

[golden gust]

literally nithing ^

stoping you doing that

but, theres many dozen of caveats to deal with

[still sorrel]

ok so you make an interface that extends the basic event listener interface and make it auto register the classes that implement it

[golden gust]

e.g. now you've gotta scan every class in a plugin which eats time, then you've got the caveats around potentially initialising classes before other stuff is even ready, etc

[vernal moth]

Classgraph can do it at compile time iirc

[golden gust]

well, yea, I mean, theres always APs, etc

just, not everybody likes relying on them, etc

[still sorrel]

this is a really good point, so there would just have to be a method that you'd have to call that registers all of these tagged classes which you can call after your async stuff is done or whatever

what are APs?

[golden gust]

annotation processor

[still sorrel]

is guice an AP?

[golden gust]

basically you could just make an AP process stuff and dump out the data into some file

I wanna say that they use one, but, idr

[still sorrel]

I am seriously wondering why dependency injection is not talked about in any of the java books I read that cover java

[golden gust]

oh, apparently not, I thought that they used one for some magic but maybe not

[still sorrel]

cannot imagine coding without it

[golden gust]

passing stuff in through the constructor is DI without the perils of having to teach a DI framework

I've honestly yet to have a strong reason to use one outside of spring, and even there it was more just "that's the spring way" rather than a want

[still sorrel]

I mean you no longer have static stuff

or at least to some degree

util classes are now instantiated by guice

basically any logic that doesn't need to be instantiated multiple times

[golden gust]

my joy is that many times somebody wants something, I just kinda wanna get it done without fluffling about

I try to leave toying with new framework to play time but my brain is kinda arse recently, so, like, I just prefer to facedesk instead of spending free time playing with java and frameworks, etc

These frameworks defo help with some issues, ngl on that aspect, but, for much stuff, they just seem overblown

[void void]

https://www.twitch.tv/ish13c

another implementation of MC sharding

700 people on with like 10(?) shards

[golden gust]

I mean, no surprise

it's one of the recent fats which has kinda been picking up as nobody really releases their impl as it's a scratch project they don't wanna support or it's a private commision

they all generally take the same impl ideas and all have the same flaws

some of them adress a few extra things here and there, e.g. some mostly leave the world as immutable, some broadcast changes over, etc

[void void]

mhm

worldql's regions with seamless borders seems like the most compatible implementation atm, but since it's a physical region, you can't guarantee load balancing

[golden gust]

well, yea, none of them solve the real underlying issues and just cater the cons for their environments

[magic river]

A whole region is probably too big but you'll never be able to guarantee load balancing, it's a shared simulation

If 100 players are in a 200x200 block area you aren't going to be sharding that usefully

[void void]

yeah, best case scenario is predicting where players would be

smaller regions around spawn, etc

[golden gust]

issue is that you start hitting limitations unless you wanna start replacing core parts of the server

you're always gonna have X amounts of chunks expected to be loaded at some level around a player

[magic river]

Keeping each player's set of chunks ticking independently unless they overlap with another player's chunks seems like the obvious approach to me

You could end up with players chaining together into a large area on one core/server but that's not likely

[void void]

with their own chunks though, how would shared entities work?

[magic river]

What shared entities?

If they're close enough to share entities they're sharing chunks too

[still sorrel]

are yall talking about using the players pc for server computation?

[magic river]

No

[proud lance]

dislike that its called MultiPaper in that twitch stream, but its an Airplane fork

[void void]

ah, I thought you meant that each player has totally independently ticking chunks

as in their own entities and stuff as well

I just realized I could use the service loader API to fetch and register all event listeners and other "registerable" types

Fucking big brain

[crystal lily]

https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/java-update/index.html

[crystal lily]

https://youtu.be/GdZn7k5rZLQ

[magic river]

[warm anchor]

Wow amaranth they famous twitch streamer /s

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/GaigscTbuTs i totally didnt pay attention to this scene but turns out they planned everything for the future

The Celestials that is

[magic river]

https://giphy.com/gifs/uofcalifornia-spoilers-spoiler-alert-l0K4dsvmepTLMEMO4

[worn ember]

i mean its from 2014

if you havent seen it by now its on you

[magic river]

The thing it was setting up for the future isn't from 2014

[worn ember]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i mean its like saying there might be a spider man in the new spider man

[tawny spindle]

uhm, is that normal?

[golden gust]

no, that's generally cos your browser didn't download the font for some reason

[tawny spindle]

thanks, looking in my browser addon's

[proud lance]

oh its the icon font

I was wondering what the hell fight_takeoff was

why do you want my ipinfo cat

[void void]

yeah that happens for me if I use decentraleyes/localcdn

[edgy palm]

epik games store

[warm anchor]

Wht is there two orange

[void void]

[warm anchor]

Oh god I remember making that emoji as a joke in 2019

It’s 2022. And it’s still going

[void void]

heh

it was the only good emote that came up when I searched scared

[magic river]

[waxen panther]

peeposmilers

[neat oyster]

[golden gust]

https://twitter.com/notameadow/status/1487056867281018888

🌻 𝙼𝚎𝚊𝚍𝚘𝚠 𝙴𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚜 (2).arj 🌻 (@notameadow)

I'm just a girl, standing in front of an Ubuntu server, TRYING TO FUCKING CHANGE THE DNS AND MAKE IT STICK.

Yes, I ranted about it few days back but I wanted to scream this out loud, one more time.

Likes

1000

Twitter · Jan 28, 2022, 1:35 PM

[neat oyster]

thats why you use windows

[glacial delta]

That is why you should not use Ubuntu and use a better distro. 👀

[golden gust]

they're all shit these days

[glacial delta]

Vanilla debian is much better and pretty easy to use for everyone.

Then there's Manjaro, EndeavorOS (and vanilla Arch for more advanced users.)

[golden gust]

yea, gonna run my server on manjaro, k

[warm anchor]

have you consider Arch?

[golden gust]

Z did that for a few years 😄

[glacial delta]

Arch is probably the best choice for a server, light and stable if you configure properly.

[warm anchor]

I have this picture on my phone for some reason

[south matrix]

and now it's on mine

[glacial delta]

That is totally not an average arch user.

[tall flame]

u guys know any plugin that does this? when a player kills another players a percentage of their balance will be taken by the killer

[south matrix]

could make it for you

[warm anchor]

he installs all the packages.

[south matrix]

or you could make it yourself

[south matrix]

bloated

[golden gust]

installs steam

yeets desktop environment

[glacial delta]

WHY

[glacial delta]

||I use KDE||

[neat oyster]

pov linus

[golden gust]

you know

when you spell a joke out like that

it kinda ruins it

[warm anchor]

[neat oyster]

sad

[glacial delta]

Uses Pop!_OS

[neat oyster]

atleast he yeeted desktop i deleted my whole hard drive while installing linux

[golden gust]

this one time , I used DD to wipe a drive which I wanted to clean install on

then i found out that that drive wasn't plugged in

[neat oyster]

yes we did the same thing

[glacial delta]

Sigh, I couldn't recreate that.

Installed normally, I am now sad.

||/jk||

[viscid wedge]

https://manjarno.snorlax.sh/

[warm anchor]

[glacial delta]

Uses anyways...

[plucky sparrow]

[viscid wedge]

Why would anyone take distro advice from you if you're knowingly compromising yourself

[void void]

https://github.com/Amog-OS/AmogOS

[neat oyster]

the god the single best distro @edgy palm vouches

[proud lance]

We all know Hannah Montana Linux is the best OS

I dont want to hear these talks about "Arch"

[neat oyster]

amongus will imposter you

[proud lance]

the only Arch linux is Arch you gonna install Hannah Montana Linux?

[neat oyster]

who said arch

[proud lance]

some weeb and some cat

[neat oyster]

[proud lance]

look how clean it is

you can easily get used to it coming from Windows

[glacial delta]

No one.

[glass delta]

https://luminescent.dev/forks now updates properly compared to the old link
old link will be removed february 8, so use this one instead

ok bye

[warm anchor]

This graph is very misleading. Stop posting it everywhere

[neat oyster]

why is fabric mods there

[glass delta]

wdym by misleading?

explain pls

i'm the dude who made the graph

[glass delta]

some forks have patches from fabric mods, those are included to show them

the graph is meant to be as chaotic as possible

[neat oyster]

oh nice

[warm anchor]

So an infographic means to be chaotic

If you don’t think that’s a problem I don’t know what to tell you

[glass delta]

i never said that it was specifically for info?

[warm anchor]

Not one ask asked for it and you spammed it across paper, airplane, and purpur discord

[glass delta]

it's used frequently so i spread the word out

there's nothing wrong with that

at least i'm not spamming it across every single channel

[warm anchor]

The only relationship waterfall and velocity are even remotely close to is they are both proxies

[glass delta]

open ur eyes and look at the legend and the color of the arrow

[warm anchor]

You are doing nothing but add on to an already confused area for people and you are actively spamming it when no one is asking for it

[glass delta]

ok?

it's not really confusing once u look at the colors of the arrows and the legend on the bottom left

[warm anchor]

🤷‍♂️

[void void]

https://www.pcgamer.com/unofficial-minecraft-nft-game-blockverse-disappears-with-more-than-dollar1m/

[warm anchor]

[glacial delta]

Uh, well, people would probably use Rocky/Arch/etc in a server, definitely not ubuntu if they need stability.

[whole prawn]

Outlook just asked me if they could show me advertisements as if they were an email (instead of banner ads like currently)

and just said "outlook will load faster" if i were to choose it

Im surprised they even bother to ask but what the fuck

[red timber]

that's life nowadays

[glacial delta]

Amazing that they even asked.

[grave yarrow]

arch

[vernal moth]

imagine using a web client for email

[meager tusk]

imagine not

[worn ember]

Emails lmao

marked as spam

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/e9o0Ss4.png

[void void]

[golden gust]

yea, I replied to them, told them to use the forums/discord

ended up basically in a 20 minute discussion around how the maven config has nothing to do with the value they shoved in their yaml file :L

[void void]

Funny how they used the contact button on the forums

Like, they were already there

[worn ember]

1.0.0

[tidal valve]

guys, can you recommend a good stiller with sending virus-free logs to telegram

[vernal moth]

a wat

[worn ember]

Me: downloads a VS project
Windows: Someone should scan that file (when i try to run it)
Also windows: We won't tell you how lol figure it out yourself but i wont let you run it

[vernal moth]

do you have smart screen enabled?

yoink that shit

[worn ember]

pretty sure i disabled that

lemme check

inb4 it reenabled with an update

[vernal moth]

I do it via the gpo

https://i.imgur.com/cIjhLkM.png

🙂

so even windows can't turn it on 😄

[twin lagoon]

meanwhile defender turns itself on every update

[worn ember]

^

[twin lagoon]

even if you disable it through various ways

[vernal moth]

defender I don't mind

[twin lagoon]

group policies don't mean shit™️

can't even properly disable windows security anymore

[rare python]

Solution: Linux

[vernal moth]

one day I will write a dockerfile without an issue

today is not that day

https://i.imgur.com/gCrNLXf.png

[vernal moth]

.cake Me

[limber knot]

buys Me a delectable medium-sized Stack cake and serves it with a small dollop of chocolate sauce!

[vernal moth]

\o/

for anyone who cares, the bot is back https://github.com/MiniDigger/CloudBot

[void void]

ah, so that's what the actions were for :D

[mossy vessel]

Luckily nobody cares about IRC

[vernal moth]

well neither do I, but we have the bot back now

.lart NotMyFault

[mossy vessel]

?

[limber knot]

fills NotMyFault's ketchup bottle with Dave's Insanity sauce.

[mossy vessel]

Seems to do nothing

[vernal moth]

wdym?

[mossy vessel]

https://i.imgur.com/JEv1vcJ.png

[vernal moth]

wat

[wide chasm]

Shows for me

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/2sUOUWn.png

.xkcd ballmer

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) No results found!

[vernal moth]

urg

I thought I fixed it

oh deployment iddn't work

.xkcd ballmer

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) No results found!

[vernal moth]

fuck you

ill get lunch

[jagged widget]

im thinking of making a 1.16.5 modded forge server, can i still use akair's flags or are they specific to paper/spigot

[vernal moth]

oh is it because its a volume?

[rare python]

1.16.5 bad

I don't know much about how the JVM GC tuning works, but I would imagine it applies to Minecraft Servers in general, not just the bukkit of forks.

[jagged widget]

i agree, 1.16.5 is bad

thanks, i might do a little googling as well just in case

[vernal moth]

.xkcd ballmer

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) xkcd: Ballmer Peak (1 October 2007) | http://xkcd.com/323 https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/ballmer_peak.png

[vernal moth]

\o/

[sullen shore]

Hey

Can is somehow dupe in paper server ?

[vernal moth]

hopefully not!

its our goal to fix all of such exploits when we find them or people report them

[charred sleet]

how are we all today

[rare python]

fine

[pastel reef]

Is 8gb ram a lot for a 13 year old laptop?

[rare python]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[glass delta]

well yatopia is back..kinda

[tropic flame]

i mean i would assume they are actively tested against Paper but i guess

(1.16.5 indeed bad tho, no SpongeForge yet 😔)

[shadow basalt]

Hi, guys. I need some help.

[worthy geode]

its above average, but its still a 13 year old laptop, it will be really shit

[jagged widget]

Reject arch, embrance AmogOS

[marble lark]

am fine

implementing locals and scope is pretty confusing

but I'm fine otherwise

[humble stirrup]

Hi there,

Does any of you experimented a 3D XPoint SSD for minecraft ?

[magic river]

You won't notice it

[humble stirrup]

so it won't perform more than a normal nvme one ?

[magic river]

Essentially, no

[humble stirrup]

it's pretty stupid to believe that something with an higher price performe better (like I am doing), but why is it soo expansive then ?

[magic river]

It has lower latency (closer to RAM) but that only matters if you're doing a lot of random lookups and need them to finish before you can make progress

[twin lagoon]

disk i/o is hardly the issue for minecraft

what makes you think a 3d xpoint ssd makes it worth using for minecraft over a normal ssd

[magic river]

Right, when an SSD can do 7GB/s sequential reads nothing that can organize its data is IO bound anymore 😛

3D XPoint is for random reads

For a while when async chunk loading first landed I was saying you didn't even need an SSD anymore 😛

You did if you wanted a better experience for players but your TPS wouldn't die without it

[humble stirrup]

Ok, thanks !
So going to something like RAID 0 or RAID 10 to increase I/O is not even needed ?

[twin lagoon]

you're not io-bound

having faster disks (assuming a normal ssd is what you'd be using now) won't improve performance

[ashen cliff]

Any kind of non broken SSD, is fine.

[magic river]

Even a SATA SSD is probably enough, with an NVMe one you aren't IO bound

[humble stirrup]

Ok, thanks a lot guys

[marble lark]

it probably would help with loading stuff stored on disk like worlds tbh, but that's pretty much it

[magic river]

Nope, blocks of data in region files should be large enough to mostly count as sequential reads

3D XPoint's main draw is latency and (somewhat related) random read performance

[worn ember]

i asked a game dev to provide some tools to convert custom maps to json and he delivered but they might need some optimizations lol

[rare python]

just compress it 😆

[neat oyster]

https://pastebin.com/tqsVr7aa
thank me later

i have provided you the sacred texts

[worn ember]

still a lot of data to read

[magic river]

I bet compressed JSON is a similar size to NBT

250KB is nothing to read

[worn ember]

also i dont get how it gets to 260K lines, the map is only 360x360 tiles

[magic river]

Oh, that's lines

Who cares about line counts

[worn ember]

its like 2MB, i mean its not that crazy

i just feel it could be less

[neat oyster]

i rickrolled 3 ppl good

[marble lark]

piss

[untold meadow]

is dbo down/dead?

[void void]

curseforge is having some problems

[untold meadow]

cringe

[torn kelp]

Hi
Do you know any lite plugin for tab?
I mean that actually plugin for tab I use is very heavy for my server

i mean quite resource-hungry

XD

[worthy geode]

TAB is pretty efficient if you don't overdo it with placeholders and animations

[granite slate]

Do you guys know if it is possible add new particles inside resource packs without replacing vanilla ones?

[worthy geode]

no

not possible

[floral mesa]

could always go for 10k sas disks from 6-7 years ago and they would be fine for minecraft

couple of those in raid10 can outperform certain ssds

actually

hell

15k sas can outperform certain ssds

[magic river]

Every cheap SSD can max out SATA 3 these days

btw on the 3D XPoint talk from earlier, basically they'd make this last number higher

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555469074080202765/933592934702530621/unknown.png

Wordle 224 4/6

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[wise pawn]

Can you tell me what the problem is? After such an error, the server's tps drops to 16

[upbeat falcon]

message.txt by @wise pawn: https://paste.gg/f1a385908f7c4b5c8404c5fe711461f9

[magic river]

err, wrong window

[magic river]

#paper-help

[strange crown]

I've got a world which is basically a planetarium, with a void island for each planet. For lighting what I'd like to get is stars in background, as you would get at midnight, but also full illumination from sun, as per day

is that something that could be done in server config, or am I looking at plugin?

[worthy geode]

how bright does it need to be? You could try making it an end world, but its not thaaat bright

[strange crown]

hmm I'll try that. Thanks!

[magic river]

You have to tell the client it's night to get the stars but if you do that the client will also decide the sun light value of blocks should be considered 0 so you can't keep things lit

So yeah, end is going to be the best way

[worthy geode]

and if you don't like the weird end sky texture im pretty sure you can change it using a server resource pack

[strange crown]

yeah, I'm looking at that now.

[magic river]

Oh if you can replace the skybox with a resource pack you could just use a normal world and do that

[strange crown]

has a purple hue which could be replaced

[magic river]

Then lock it to always be day

[strange crown]

though the other thing is night potion effect seems to be pretty close

[magic river]

Make the day part of the skybox a copy of the night one, make the sun invisible, and lock it to be noon or whatever

[onyx cape]

I wonder, did mojang add tablist header/footer specifically for plugin/modded servers

[worthy geode]

yes

[magic river]

Yes, so you'd stop fucking with the tab list

[onyx cape]

weird, i wish they added more of those features

[worthy geode]

aren't there enough places to display messages?

[onyx cape]

like plugin server specific features in general

[true canyon]

and yet, people always want more

(also who even looks at the tablist for any useful information other than "is my friend or enemy online")

[worthy geode]

I would like if they added model data for entities, but other than that im not really missing anything major

We have current score & objective status in the tablist, I think its a good place for stuff like that because its easily accessible when needed but not always in view

[neat oyster]

ping lol

[true canyon]

... I spent way too much time trying to figure out why you were pinging me and laughing about it.

[neat oyster]

bad

it took me 4.69 seconds

how much did it take you

[worthy geode]

just clicked on the plugin page on your profile. fix your percentage rounding

3,33333333333333%

[neat oyster]

tru

math.floor am i ryt

[worthy geode]

well, floor will do what it says. 3,3 -> 3%. round will do the same for 3,3, but e.g. 3,5 will become 4

[neat oyster]

oh yea

i forgor that exists

[potent panther]

sometimes are crashes like this
The game crashed whilst unexpected error
Error: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Tried to mark light data as ready for chunk [28, 24] but it hasn't been loaded yet
Código de error: -1

when tping sometimes

and when on spectator you are in the view of a mob and teleport to another entity

[left swift]

that sucks

[worn ember]

make a bug report on the issue tracker and provide all the info asked about in the template

[worthy geode]

assuming its 1.17/1.18 of course

[still sorrel]

does paper have a command framework included in its api these days?

[magic river]

Nope

[still sorrel]

ACF still the stuff everyone uses?

[magic river]

That or cloud, I think

[cosmic raft]

highly recommend cloud over acf.

[magic river]

Sounds like cloud will be in Paper after hard fork 🙂

[cosmic raft]

nope

[still sorrel]

cloud looks nice

@CommandDescription("Test cloud command using @CommandMethod")
@CommandMethod("command|alias <input> <number>")
private void yourCommand(
    Player sender,
    @Argument("input") String input,
    @Argument("number") @Range(min = "1", max = "100") int number
) {
    player.sendMessage(String.format(
        "I am %d%% hyped for %s!"
        number,
        input
    ));
}

[lean kiln]

cloud-annotations was a mistake

[little frost]

??

[vernal moth]

Annotations are so much nicer compared to nested builders

[still sorrel]

this reminds me of making a discord bot command in python

[lean kiln]

sure, cloud builders are not nested though

[worthy geode]

I considered using cloud but before finding out about annotations I would have never used it, looked way to complicated

[lean kiln]

assuming you mean nested in the way brigadier works

[vernal moth]

How would that example look as a builder?

[lean kiln]

it's in the readme

[cosmic raft]

link?

[still sorrel]

manager.command(
   manager.commandBuilder("command", Description.of("Test cloud command using a builder"), "alias")
          .argument(StringArgument.of("input"))
          .argument(IntegerArgument.newBuilder("number").withMin(1).withMax(100).build())
          .handler(context -> {
               String input = context.get("input");
               int number = context.get("number");
               context.getSender().sendMessage(String.format(
                       "I am %d%% hyped for %s!"
                       number,
                       input
               );
          })
);

[vernal moth]

Yeah I prefer annotations to that

[cosmic raft]

^

[little frost]

^

[lean kiln]

and you're free to have opinions :)

[vernal moth]

But then again am a huge spring fan

So am biased

[lean kiln]

I stand by my opinion that cloud-annotations was a mistake

let those people use acf

[vernal moth]

But even before I did spring I wrote my own annotation based command framework

[cosmic raft]

no offence to aikar

but fuck acf

[tropic flame]

i'm more of a fan of builders tbh so I'm with jmp

[vernal moth]

Before I switched to acf

[crimson haven]

Well good we have both options and can choose our preferred ones

[still sorrel]

I have everything set up to develop a plugin and I know exactly what I need to do

just cant get myself back into it

[waxen panther]

TRUE

[true canyon]

With annotations I can't let users configure everything about commands, so here I am doing hardmode in cloud instead. 😄

[magic river]

I've been moving to prefer builders because in TypeScript you can do type magic with them

Instead of defining your type and then annotating it to do things you can write your builder and then infer a type from it

With input validation that means you can have reusable fragments and combine them

And don't have to worry about your annotation and type being out of sync

Fuck off

What part of this channel or the conversation you interrupted to tell me to "speak normal" made you think this was a place to ask for help?

[vague lagoon]

whats that supposed to mean @zinc arch

[magic river]

Of course you're like that

[mossy vessel]

!ban 899367440503406624 Anti-lgbt stuff isn't tolerated here

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned Mqxim701 🗕 🗗 🗙#5516 (Anti-lgbt stuff isn't tolerated here) [1 total infraction] -- NotMyFault#3732.

[still sorrel]

did he just start out of nowhere?

[true canyon]

Yup

[rare python]

ACF is alright but it has issues which are starting to put me off a bit, such as the command contexts and completions system, as it results in a really long block of code that is all in one file.

[true canyon]

Came in, described a problem in the wrong channel, got upset when conversation was happening that wasn't about fixing their problem.

[vague lagoon]

whats the irc bot that logs every message called again?

or a link to it

[magic river]

Anyway, yeah, builders are great and annotations were a mistake 😛

[rare python]

I at some point may make a replacement for ACF for my purposes, because there are issues with ACF I am starting to get a bit sick of.

[rare python]

Annotations are better, more readable.

[magic river]

Except for stuff like @Nullable, those aren't a mistake they're just a sign Java has a bad type system

[rare python]

Solution: Kotlin

[magic river]

I suppose I'm okay with stuff like @Injectable too, marker annotations basically

[waxen panther]

di stuff and nullablity is the only stuff i'd use ann*tations for

[void void]

Korobi, it's no longer in here though

[meager tusk]

TALK THAT TALK.

[worn ember]

finally some sanity

[cosmic raft]

it isn't?

[worn ember]

.joke

ded

[vernal moth]

.kill DarkEyeDragon

[limber knot]

smashes DarkEyeDragon's head in with a heavy iron rod.

[cosmic raft]

...

[worn ember]

[worn ember]

!stats

[limber knot]

Uptime: 10 days, 2 hours, 7 minutes, 31 seconds
Message Handling: 3ms / 0ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 112990 (4.619%)
Messages from Discord: 2333171 (95.38%)

[vernal bone]

/join #velocity-help 👀

[worn ember]

no

[waxen panther]

4.6% 😬 💀

[meager tusk]

.kill DarkEyeDragon

[limber knot]

gets some friends together and shivs DarkEyeDragon a few times.

[meager tusk]

Based.

[void void]

that's surprisingly large

[waxen panther]

i get that a lot

[ashen cliff]

Based Balkan moment.

[worn ember]

its cuz phoenix talks so much lol

[meager tusk]

Westerner Experience in Balkon:

Speak english to clerk.
Clerk smiles ear to ear.
Great hospitality.
Walks out.
Someone's stalking you from the store.
Your wallet's no longer in your pocket.

[ashen cliff]

🇧🇦 moment.

[meager tusk]

🇽🇰 moment after the war.

[ashen cliff]

Fact.

[meager tusk]

Peacekeepers being followed by police to make sure they aren't mugged.

[granite slate]

Can anyone explain me how mob attacks players? What I mean is the cycle of operation they perform, for example, path finding through a player, when it is near a player send damage packet and do some other stuff

[warm anchor]

It’s just pure magic

[meager tusk]

Most helpful Paper response to a query

[glass crag]

you can look through it in the server source, zombies for example have a bunch of goals, this is from Zombie class

[granite slate]

Idk the spell

[warm anchor]

Thank you if I do say so myself

[granite slate]

I'm going to look into it, ty

[topaz mortar]

Would recommend to dig through Mojang mapped source code.

[serene matrix]

Are there ways to reduce resource usage in world generation in 1.18?
The overworld takes 4 times longer to generate than in 1.17. I expected no more than 3 times. But what surprised me the most was that the nether, in which nothing was changed, took 3 times longer to generate. (Chunky)
Sad.

[left swift]

get a better server

[worn ember]

thats just the state of the game sadly

[ashen cliff]

State of the art.

[limber knot]

https://www.zdnet.com/article/major-linux-policykit-security-vulnerability-uncovered-pwnkit/ 😅

[cosmic raft]

that's old news phoenix

[limber knot]

oh right, 25th 👀

[cosmic raft]

:p

[limber knot]

sucks for people that run systemd

runs

[worn ember]

linoox users

[left swift]

this is why everyone should use windows vista in their production environments

nothing bad ever happened to windows vista!

[mortal radish]

is there anyplace to help me with my minecraft server?

[warm anchor]

#paper-help for 1.17 1.18 paper related issues @mortal radish

[mortal radish]

isnt there for 1.7.10

[void void]

[ripe sphinx]

no. This is 2022, why are you still using 8 year old software

[mortal radish]

because for mods that i want from there

[warm anchor]

You are on your own then

Those version are unsupported

[mortal radish]

frick

but its really easy

its not about 1.7.10

[warm anchor]

Then you should be able to figure out

[mortal radish]

what?

[warm anchor]

.

[mortal radish]

easy for other people not me

i dont know anything about pc

[golden gust]

I mean, we can't comment on your question or where best to ask it with 0 info

[mortal radish]

ok well ill try

if i dont get anything well to bad

[tired heath]

Atm I sort out all plugins what do a lot of chunk loading but do not uses papers async provider, it looks like dynmap did not implement it since Aikars request in 2018. Anyone knows a map plugin that does?

[true canyon]

I bet squaremap does - https://github.com/jpenilla/squaremap

[tired heath]

I gonna check that, if yes, I finally switch to it

thx

[void void]

how do i fix rates for minecraft farms (in the paper.yml)

#paper-help

geekbench5 results with some references if you care

[magic river]

Wait what does PolicyKit have to do with systemd?

phoenix giving old news and incorrect news 😄

[warm anchor]

ampere does shine on that multicore task

[magic river]

Server would run faster on an iPhone SE 2 😄

[tropic flame]

use Thermos (or don't, since Forge+Bukkit were never meant to be merged together), good luck have fun you're on your own

1.12.2 + SpongeForge has been the superior modded (Forge) experience for a while

so just update if you want modded

[mortal radish]

ok thanks

[still sorrel]

Hm why do people list pronouns like he + him and not just he. Might as well be he/him/his

Can only think of he, she and they. Why do they state the 2nd part since its obvious

[golden gust]

I'd imagine it's just whats on forms, etc, and covers the many typical cases where a pronoun is used commonly 🤷‍♂️

[still sorrel]

Should I be running my mc server in WSL2

Would there be performance gains

[void void]

I run both 1.17.1 and 1.18.1 on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS

[spare venture]

some people prefer he/them, vs he/him, for example

it’s kinda also a good way for them to list all their pronouns they are comfortable being called

those are my thoughts on it as someone who doesnt know a whole lot about it

[void void]

test it out

you get a bit more virtualization overhead, but jvm performs a bit better on linux iirc

[magic river]

There isn't much overhead for CPU bound stuff

[serene bolt]

I run MC servers (for dev testing) in WSL1 all the time, haven't noticed any issues... that being said, my testing sessions are not exactly representative of a server with multiple players on it :P

[magic river]

https://twitter.com/curator1of1/status/1487364584516239369

Omar Farooq (@curator1of1)

If you could own color on the blockchain—and earn royalties from it each time an NFT that uses those colors trades, which colors would you mint? This is what we're going to make possible at the upcoming @colordotmuseum NFT market.

Likes

119

Twitter · Jan 29, 2022, 9:58 AM

[void void]

yeah, I do test servers in WSL2, any perf difference is likely marginal

I've had some players join but not for benchmarking it or anything

[spare venture]

i hate nfts

[true canyon]

Dibs on #4A412A thanks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantone_448_C

[cosmic raft]

popcorn!

[south matrix]

umm wtf #food

how could you send an image in the incorrect channel

[cosmic raft]

:o

Nothing wrong with sending food in here too :p

[south matrix]

i think you need to be banned

[left swift]

no politics kash

[foggy veldt]

If you eat popcorn with chopsticks how do you lick the butter off of your fingeys

[warm anchor]

same color

[void void]

wha-

[wraith trail]

you saw nothing

[void void]

someone reported an exploit ig 😳

log4j rce: 2

[south matrix]

tomorrow morning there will be a commit

[void void]

or actually like #3 or smth

[void void]

lmao

commit log:

bump log4j to 2.17.7
bump log4j to 2.17.6
bump log4j to 2.17.5
bump log4j to 2.17.4
bump log4j to 2.17.3
bump log4j to 2.17.2

then one of those commits also fixes another exploit secretly

[neat oyster]

secretly

[magic river]

Ok I think I can safely blame my ISP for my internet being garbage right now

Ping to my router: 0% loss
Ping to my modem: 0% loss
Ping to google.com: 18% loss

[ashen cliff]

Nah. It's Google.

[void void]

winmtr time

[void void]

they use the unix patch system afaik

[vernal moth]

It's not hard at all

You do changes to the source and run some magic commands and get a patch file

The magic commands are explained in the contributing.md

It's a bit weird and stuff, but you get quickly used to it

[oak charm]

Hey guys, its possible to convert a 1.12.2 map to 1.8.9 right? 🙂

[wide chasm]

There might be a tool for that somewhere, but that's not supported natively

[oak charm]

I did try to just switch out the server jar and it seems to be working fine. I was just not sure if I would sooner realize something was wrong. I only experience something with antixray and FAWE which I can see is a general problem but I have no idea how to fix this and if its related to the version switch.

[worn ember]

You're pretty much on your own with those versions

[oak charm]

I know I just hoped someone had a quick fix 🙂

[worn ember]

I got earbuds at a convention a few weeks back and i don't think i've ever heard sound so bad lmao. Like i wasn't expecting anything from them but holy shit why would you make something so trash to give away? What the hell does that accomplish other than stating you're cheap af and give away ewaste for no reason

if you give away a 2gb thumb drive at least you can put something on it and use it, the earbuds are literally unbearable to use lol

[grave yarrow]

ah but is it always a thumb drive?

[vernal moth]

Downgrading maps will lead to world corruption

Gotta use a tool like chunker

[oak charm]

Thank you Martin, what If i had no problems just doing it. I have heard its only a problem with maps above +1.13

[vernal moth]

It works until it doesn't

It's subtile stuff like the height map

[oak charm]

Alright, thanks 🙂

[prisma portal]

idk how to set permission.yml

[plucky sparrow]

a

[charred sleet]

b

[rancid void]

What have I done

[void void]

created a masterpiece 😄

[rare python]

An abomination you mean.

[serene oriole]

Sus

[rancid void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/911734580074147880.webp?size=48

[serene oriole]

Hahaha

Ultra sus

[tropic flame]

https://github.com/ErikMcClure/bad-licenses

Hot Potato License

Transfers exclusive ownership of the entire project to whoever committed the last change.

this is brilliant

Bukkit wouldn't be dead if it had this license /s

[rancid void]

lol

[rare python]

If you read the whole license it gets even better...

All rights reserved by the last person to commit a change to this
repository, except for the right to commit changes to this repository.

[neat oyster]

[dawn pond]

anyone does discord.js?

[turbid spade]

hey guys

can someone help me with mathsss

i forgor how to do

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther

[waxen panther]

i forgorrrr

me when papermc general do my math homework 😎 👊

[turbid spade]

yesssss

[waxen panther]

Ye its a no from me 😃

[turbid spade]

sus!!

thx anyways lol

[cunning raft]

wouldn't it just be 3pi/2

[turbid spade]

i thought they could only be in multiples of 2pi but i might be stupid

bc i know everything thats a multiple of 2pi is out of the range

[radiant oriole]

Literally add 2pi

Until it’s in the specified range

[waxen panther]

https://tenor.com/view/pie-dean-winchester-gif-24574041

[turbid spade]

so i should be able to solve that algebraically then, x(2pi)

THANK YOU

[cunning raft]

man

idk what fucking calc class you're in

[quasi valley]

@viral hornet

[cunning raft]

but this shit should be the first thing they teach you

[lavish compass]

@twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

@viral hornet 🥺

@lavish compass

[neat oyster]

i broke minecraft idk how

[formal tusk]

what should be the best for minecraft server? 4 core shared cpu vs 2 dedicated (digitalocean droplet)

[twin lagoon]

none

[formal tusk]

what do u mean none, what do u suggest

[spare venture]

fucking calc lessons in paper general

[twin lagoon]

there likely won't be a difference between the two

digitalocean doesn't provide cpus that perform well for minecraft

or well, they don't stand out

[viral hornet]

[void void]

does server dev experts here approves Insights as a plugin to stop big redstone machines?

I want to here some experiences from people around here so... 🙂

[waxen panther]

best solution is to tell your players to stop being selfish

[worn crest]

Yes!

Was my idea to implement it 😋

[void void]

true, sure, you can still manually detects heavy machines but I don't want to wait for it to happen... It's better to prevent it than fix it, you know 😄

[boreal frost]

just use grief prevention to stop piston outside claim

[waxen panther]

the insights plugin is pretty good for stuff like this

[void void]

Redstone is a part of Minecraft experience, I want people to use it even though it's limited

[boreal frost]

they can use it in claims and claims are limited (win-win)

in our server we never face any issue with redstone with greif prevention

[neat oyster]

as a player no as a server owner yes

when i play on other servers i expect them to not limit shit

but when it is needed

it has to be done

[foggy veldt]

A server I used to play on would turn lag machines into obsidian and I always thought it was the funniest solution

Just press the stop lag button server owner smh why are u limiting our playability

[boreal frost]

even i have seen server that strikes lighting on placing redstone 😂

[foggy veldt]

If I ever hosted a server I would ban redstone altogether and come up with some intricate lore for why redstone doesn’t exist

Ez fix, redstone can’t lag if it doesn’t exist

[neat oyster]

i would build lag machines to make obi farm

[foggy veldt]

It was modded server so you would spend days grinding the recipe for some machine then the server would hit a lag spike and it gets turned to obsidian then you’d have to make a refund request on the forum and wait like a week for staff to process it

[magic river]

And now this morning I'm getting 3% packet loss on my local network too

wtf

[neat oyster]

wow thhat would suck no discord back then?

[magic river]

--- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
104 packets transmitted, 100 received, 3.84615% packet loss, time 106931ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.263/33.517/2126.400/236.478 ms, pipe 3

Fucking OpenWRT

[foggy veldt]

There was a discord but iirc there was a form so people wouldn’t randomly request 1000 diamonds so they used the forums

[neat oyster]

oh i see

[pastel reef]

Is an Intel Pentium enough for a 200x200 Map?

E5300 I think

[twin lagoon]

[tired heath]

I really would like to outsource Squaremap to my external webserver instead of proxing it, so the load of all web requests hits only the webserver. Since it does not support MySql I'm thinking or syncing the directory either with sshfs or lsyncd but I'm missing expirience in the possible overhead of connecting/reconnecting and encryption what I can not turn off since it uses ssh. Anyone ever did something like that?

[warm anchor]

rsync

[tired heath]

lsyncd is using rsync in default config yes

[worn ember]

@warm anchorpatch wen

[warm anchor]

Idk

Quitting Dota now lab is done

[true canyon]

boooooooo

[warm anchor]

My server is trying lost ark @worn ember

[worn ember]

i still gotta do 8 for the cour