general

[magic river]

No, I mean RAM is going to be the limit for how many players it'll hold

Can probably do 100 though I'd think

[neat oyster]

that would be enough for a hub

[void void]

uhh wtf https://forums.papermc.io/threads/before-and-lets-see-what-happens-so-we-brought.96/

[magic river]

This numbers are completely pulled out of my ass, I haven't run a server with more than 5 people on it since 2012 and haven't profiled a server since 2014

mmm spam

[neat oyster]

thanks 💜

[ashen cliff]

I think the biggest bottleneck would be compression (so disable it) and protocollib.

So try to avoid that, if you want a super efficient lobby.

[neat oyster]

oh okay

[ashen cliff]

Aka. backend servers should have compression disabled, since the proxy is supposed to handle that.

[olive patio]

I already own the ram, I just need to replace the motherboard and processor.

I also have an extra hard drive sitting around that is M.2 but the current motherboard doesn't support M.2 so I haven't been able to use it

[lean kiln]

if you have a pcie slot open can use an adapter

[olive patio]

I was under the assumption an adapter would be slower

[lean kiln]

same speed

[olive patio]

Really?

[lean kiln]

yes

[olive patio]

Thats wild

[lean kiln]

the m.2 slot is just another physical connector essentially

well, iirc there are two different standards that use the m.2 connector

one is pcie based/nvme and one ins't, but the one that isn't is mostly on older drives

I might be wrong on the specifics though

[magic river]

If it's NVMe it's just a protocol on top of PCIe

So a PCIe card is going to be the same thing

[lean kiln]

yeah

[magic river]

If it's not NVMe then it's just SATA so PCIe won't be the bottleneck for a card (do they make cards for those?)

[neat oyster]

yes they make cards

[lean kiln]

yeah it was just sata over m.2 I was thinking of

/sata using m.2 connector

[olive patio]

Is TR short for threadripper?

[lean kiln]

I would assume so in that context

[golden gust]

I mean, if they're keeping the ram

like, assuming, they're saying that the ram is gonna come from their existing machine

latest models of CPUs gonna be like 7 years old

[magic river]

If their current RAM is DDR3 then yeah

[olive patio]

I'm going to check if its DDR3 or 4

cuz i do not remember

[magic river]

You probably don't want TR though even if you have DDR4, AMD CPUs are (were?) more sensitive to slow RAM

If it's DDR3 you're going to need to replace it otherwise the parts you get to upgrade probably won't be worth it

[golden gust]

Yea, that was basically my thinking but brain, words, etc

[lean kiln]

still are afaik

[magic river]

Intel says your current CPU only supported DDR3

[golden gust]

it would be an improvement but unless you're getting budget bin used hardware for the most point, given that you're probs gonna wanna replace it again if you grow 🤷‍♂️

[magic river]

So yeah, you're going to need a full upgrade

You have a 10 year old CPU now so maybe you could get something a little better but unless you find good deals on used you'd probably be better off getting a consumer board with an i3-10100F or something and getting new RAM too

Like, the CPU, mobo, and RAM for that setup would probably cost less than just the CPU for an X299 or X399 system

[golden gust]

(This is part of why we often say that owning the hardware for an MC server is generally stupid outside of an old box for a few friends when you consider everything)

[olive patio]

This machine has run fine for quite some time. I'm not looking to upgrade purely for more performance, but I've been having some issues with hardware and making a build just in case it turns out its something I can't fix without a whole new build.

The machine's run very well with 20 or so people online the server too, so I don't think an upgrade is necessary, but if I need to replace a bunch of parts I figured I might as well upgrade

[golden gust]

I mean, boils down to your investment and aims

Like, you're looking at old hardware if you don't wanna replace the ram

you're in the realms of looking for used hardware or what is basically old stock of 'legacy' hardware; for such a small server makes sense that you don't wanna do a full upgrade, but, I mean, at that point, I'd maybe be looking at what's on the used market in terms of hardware or maybe even the prebuild market

[void void]

Is there a way to disable reddstone from a server. And only enable it in certain areas on the server

[spare venture]

worldguard?

prevent them from placing the redstone?

[civic island]

Any1 recommend any fun plugins for an smp that doesnt cause too much lag but also keeps players entertained?

[spare venture]

that's so general, if you don't know what you're looking for, try browsing the spigot plugin page

[magic river]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ZacharyDiaz/status/1486058318023954436

Zachary Diaz (@ZacharyDiaz)

hahahahahahhahahahahahahahah @JeffBezos no

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Twitter · Jan 25, 2022, 7:28 PM

[void void]

bruh

[ripe sphinx]

the fuck

ignoring that it's $50, if it matters that much take it out of their next paycheck

[hearty spear]

Okay if it was like $10k or more sure

But $50

Heck the effort it takes to get the money back is more than that

[magic river]

Replies say they aren't allowed to just take it from your next check

[hearty spear]

I googled it

It's allowed

[ripe sphinx]

then eat the bloody $50

[hearty spear]

To take the $50 from the next paycheck

[magic river]

Might be a California thing even if it's legal in general in the US

Dunno, never had something like that happen to me

[ripe sphinx]

just eat the bloody $50, you can pay for it https://f.u11.io/N2A5DQ

[hearty spear]

Same if you were under paid they are legally obligated to pay you

[ripe sphinx]

or take it out of the paycheck of whoever fked up

[hearty spear]

Now in California

They allow stuff like that

They also allow their cities to be dumps lol

[magic river]

Other states, such as California, go one step further and require the employer not only to notify the employee, but also to get his or her written authorization before making the deduction.

[civic island]

Idk like plugins that keep people engaged in the server

[magic river]

factions

that rpg one, forgot the name

[hearty spear]

Well doing that is known to the state of California to cause cancer and birth defects.

[magic river]

some economy plugin

[hearty spear]

Chunky

[magic river]

There are a million answers to that question

[south matrix]

chunky will keep people engaged for sure

[magic river]

Pretty much every plugin is meant to keep people engaged in the server

[hearty spear]

Rn the chunk loading is so crap

It's slow

And oofs server performance

That's why people pregen

[magic river]

Chunk loading? Have heard the opposite, it's too fast 😛

[hearty spear]

Well that's sending chunks to clients

[magic river]

Chunk generation like 40% the performance of 1.17.1 though

[hearty spear]

But initial chunk genning

[magic river]

It's also generating twice as much and doing more complex terrain

So... yeah, that checks out

[hearty spear]

The fact that my 5900x takes like 2 hours to gen my map is just a such a disappointment... 😂

Man I need to move to velocity this weekend

[magic river]

mmm, fun, privilege escalation exploit in polkit

[hearty spear]

Heard that's all the good stuff these days for server proxy stuff

[grand pewter]

yeah its pretty good

i mean i cant say i've used bungeecord much ever but been using velocity and its easy

[hearty spear]

I self host

And my ISP modem died after a few years

So it's down this week

[spare venture]

velocity has no impact on how fast chunks are going to generate

[hearty spear]

Perfect time for me to upgrade

[grand pewter]

i think that was an unrelated note

[hearty spear]

Bruh that is kinda assumed

[spare venture]

oh

[hearty spear]

We are talking about a proxy now

Not chunky lol

[peak ginkgo]

Velocity is way better, lighter on perf

[spare venture]

it was so obvious

[hearty spear]

Then I start talking about how I need to move to velocity

Lol

[spare venture]

ok

[hearty spear]

See that line?

[worn crest]

But with less players not mentionable 😅 in fact that old crap plugins dont work there

[spare venture]

that's a good thing

[hearty spear]

Basically I just want it to get clients between servers faster

And without having to use bungeegaurd and whatnot for security

[spare venture]

never had to use bungeeguard

[hearty spear]

Well I haven't had any issues

But prevention is the best defense

[spare venture]

a proper firewall is a better solution

[hearty spear]

I use pfsense as a firewall

Even then the authentication for bungee is crap

[worn crest]

Switching with an 1.8.9 client on a Bungeecord instance is kinda instant. But with 1.18.1 it could take a moment. So in fact, I guess Bungeecord/waterfall isn't the main problem

[spare venture]

how exactly are they going to get to your backend server if you dont have the port open

[hearty spear]

I open the port I want

[golden gust]

bungee semi cheats on server transfers

especially as minecraft goes forward and stuff starts getting data driven, that may cause some interesting issues

[hearty spear]

Look the fact is that velocity is better than waterfall/bungee as far as how it handles stuff

[spare venture]

im confused why you'd need bungeeguard if you have a firewall

[golden gust]

I mean, nobody is saying that velocity isn't better

outside of plugin ecosystem, I don't see anywhere where bungee wins

[worn crest]

Yeah, velocity is better. But for servers with old plugins that use bungee internals not possible to switch without loosing some plugins that doesn't exist in velocity in the form I want 😅

[hearty spear]

Well thats the main thing keeping velocity adoption low

Literally peoples plugins

[worn crest]

Correct

[golden gust]

yea, but, that's fixable

[spare venture]

well, the vast majority of people never run into an issue with bungee

[golden gust]

Just need devs to work out the needs of people and have a reason to write it

[hearty spear]

Luckily now all the ones I use are all using SQL or have velocity support.

[worn crest]

That's a bit thing 😅

[spare venture]

paper adoption started happening a lot coincidentally when a lot of people started having issues with spigot and paper seemed to solve a lot of them

[magic river]

Well, sure, but it's not like velocity can fix it

[worn crest]

For example bungee internals

[magic river]

You're locked in to bungeecord, okay

[golden gust]

paper was growing slowly over the years as-is, fairly steadily last I knew, but, 1.13+ was a massive boost

[magic river]

That doesn't mean bungeecord is superior

Just means you don't get a choice

[spare venture]

yeah it was pretty linear before 1.14 even, after it started growing really fast iirc

[golden gust]

To be fair, bungeecord was created X many years ago and unlike many softwares never really developed a cycle which allowed for mass cleanup, etc

Now the thing is in the state where the API lacks so much or theres so many quirky details that have leaked into plugins that you literally cannot touch anything without breaking something

[magic river]

I don't understand why you'd have more of a plugin API than some basic lifecycle stuff, maybe commands, and what is basically protocolib

[golden gust]

You shoulda seen how many bloody times it took me to get entity metadata rewriting to have a config option you could disable that didn't consistently break because of plugins

issue is that stuff leaked into the proxy because vanity/laziness/compromise

e.g. scoreboards

then you get into many fun behaviors where you wanna do stuff but then you need to do horrible, horrible things in order to do something stupid

[magic river]

Yet another thing fighting over the scoreboard, fun

[hearty spear]

Man I remember when my friends first server was just running on spigot for 1.12. when 1.13 came out it ran like absolute crap. Paper saved us

[golden gust]

not to mention all of the plugins which over the years which have been abandoned which are in such a sorry state that making them multi-platform without just a rm -rf is a no-go

[spare venture]

spigot didnt run that bad in 1.12 tbh

[magic river]

1.13 is when spigot removed my async chunk loading implementation

[golden gust]

1.12 was a core start of the massive downfall

[hearty spear]

Ya but 1.13 on a Q6600 and windows 7 home and a mechanical HDD

[spare venture]

1.14 was so painful

[hearty spear]

Then I got spicy and went right to 8gb of RAM, did a tape overclock to 3ghz instead of 2.4. put an SSD in it, installed debian.

Ran great

1.14 still sucked

[golden gust]

I recall 1.12 being somewhat bleh on performance, i don't think it was that bad but it did impact a good chunk of people, 1.13 was when it started going down hill, then 1.14, I think 1.15 was when they slowly started working on stuff?

[hearty spear]

Remember the ghost chunks in early 1.14?

[golden gust]

I mean, much of that stuff has been around for years so 🤷‍♂️

[hearty spear]

Where they would just fail to load

[golden gust]

it gets worse some releases, it gets better

[hearty spear]

It was real bad in 1.14.1

[golden gust]

Yea, that used to happen to be in 1.8

part of the fun is that the client can refuse chunks

[hearty spear]

Then 1.15 I was so happy because they tried to do some bugfixes

[golden gust]

i.e. if the client thinks that it's too far away it will just shout in the logs and drop the chunk

I recall that being an issue around then as that's what lead to me knowing that that logic existed

think I kiiiinda recall looking over that logic, but, obfuscated mess I didn't care too much about

(god, I wish that there was a IJ project for aliasing lvars in methods)

[hearty spear]

Then we moved to an old westemere xeon in an R610

Got the server for free

Put $20 CPU upgrade in it

Was fine other than when people were exploring the nether at 2am

Then server go brrr

Then moved it to an HP I got for basically free

Then it was quiet

As it was 4U and not 1U

Then moved to 5900x after trucking 2 million pounds of potatoes and I didn't know what to do with the money

[worn crest]

I could've switch to that CPU, but that was 8€ more than the i9 7900 😅

[hearty spear]

Per month?

[worn crest]

Yes

[hearty spear]

Well it is faster than that

And since I self host the power consumption is also better

😁

[worn crest]

Yeah 30% faster was it I guess, but is literally too much performance

[hearty spear]

To be fair I don't need all the power

But like I want to use this for a few years

Would not be upgraded until 2025

[worn crest]

Yeah I can always upgrade if I want but have that afford to move the servers, installing all apps, certificates usw

[hearty spear]

I also see what people mean when hosting servers

Usually you are not CPU constrained

It's usually the ram amount

[worn crest]

I have 64gb but 32gb last server was too much haha

[hearty spear]

Containers and virtualization is a hell of a drug

[spare venture]

memory is so cheap i dont know how you could be memory constrained

[worn crest]

Sooo I don't use it

[hearty spear]

Man it's fun to have the rest of the hardware to screw around with it

Well I'd you want to get good Minecraft performance you have to stay on a consumer platform for a CPU for clock speeds.

[worn crest]

As far I didn't have some mentionable impact, I haven't to mess around with it

[hearty spear]

And if you want lots of RAM on a consumer platform

With only 4 slots

It's expensive fast

Them 32gb dimms don't come cheap

Especially with the fastest ones as Ryzen CPU performance likes RAM speed

So the RAM costs a bit

And you can't get tight timings because of the high capacity dimms

The memory controller is like nope

[worn crest]

My speed in the timings is even with the i9 7900 not under 200 😅 mostly 300

[hearty spear]

So I got 64gb rn

Will probably get another 64gb later

For some VM stuff I wanna do

[worn crest]

Same because my host removed the 32gb ones haha

[hearty spear]

Not related to Minecraft

Just because I spent big bucks on a Minecraft server doesn't mean I can't use it for something useful.

[nimble kettle]

3600mhz

Because then you don't need to underclock the fabric

[kindred lake]

Does any one knows a good free minecraft server host

[void void]

good and free don't really go hand in hand

[kindred lake]

I see

:(

[magic river]

https://aternos.org/:en/

[kindred lake]

My pc has better performance than this host

[magic river]

Then you need to pay money

[kindred lake]

Im looking for 24/7 and decent performance

[kindred lake]

Oh

[magic river]

I don't mean pay for aternos, I don't think you even can

I mean if that isn't good enough you're going to have to pay for a host

[warm anchor]

Nothing is free in this world my friend

[kindred lake]

I see.

How to make uptime bot for a mc server

[untold meadow]

you can use something like uptimerobot

[void void]

I think they want a bot to keep a free server running...

[untold meadow]

cringe

[warm anchor]

Damn Noah is professional free host enjoyer

[vernal bone]

NoahNodes when?

[warm anchor]

Noah.host

[void void]

already taken :(

[kindred lake]

Cmon guys you must know something

[untold meadow]

i mean, you're asking for a good free host

the fact that they are free means they aren't good

[kindred lake]

I see

[spare stone]

anyone know a multi-project (or multi-module, some people say) repository in github which uses gradle & shadow & github packages (for publishing)?
there isn't any documention on how to publish a multi-project repo in github packages with shadow. i'm just looking for an example instead

[foggy veldt]

Go on mc market hosting page and message all the hosts that you’ll give them a vouch if you get a free host

[foggy veldt]

Doesn’t luckperms + half multi platform plugins do this

Actually iirc luckperms doesn’t shade deps nvm

[spare stone]

they don't use github packages either

i know how to publish a single-module repo with shadow in github packages i just don't know how to do the multi-module one

[vernal moth]

It's no different tho?

[spare stone]

right now when I publish my single-module repo to github packages (with shadow), the asset's name would be myrepo-1.0-all.jar, so what i'm confused about is how to publish a multi-module one with the name myrepo-core-1.0.jar and myrepo-velocity-1.0.jar
I really can't find any documentions on how to achieve this

[vernal moth]

You just publish every module?

[spare stone]

uhm so you mean I should have a separate publication config in each module with a different artifactId?

[vernal moth]

Yes

[spare stone]

oh, great. thank you!

[kindred lake]

Whats a vouch

[foggy veldt]

It was a joke don’t do that

[kindred lake]

Ok

[neat oyster]

Is there a plugin which hides all the players other than themselves

(not toggle)

[warm anchor]

you can just change your entity-tracking-range to 0 for player @neat oyster

[neat oyster]

ty ❤️

[warm anchor]

it's very cursed though

-1 works too. it's even more cursed

[neat oyster]

[warm anchor]

I've gone through all the cursed config when I was making that paper chan guide

stuff like 0 simulation distance -1 and -2 simulation distance

[neat oyster]

no yea this is very cursed

it not only made players disapear also blocks lol

[warm anchor]

but it works

you can hear player

infront of you but you cant see them

😉

[neat oyster]

thats alr

[warm anchor]

its a fun game for game of tag mini game

[void void]

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-4533

they fixed it

only took nine years

[rare python]

Lolol

Took them that long

Why...

[neat oyster]

what does it mean??..... so there are bigger bugs than this that took 9 yers to fix WHATT so they where fixing that or mojang lazy

[worn ember]

mojang lazy

not making game for my 600player survival = lazy

[hexed dragon]

Sad no snapshot this week.

[warm anchor]

@twin lagoon

So early

[twin lagoon]

[worn ember]

9 years ago

[unreal pier]

@low herald Can you accept my friend request, I have something unrelated to PaperMC I wish to ask you about

[crystal lily]

https://papermc.io/downloads

[ashen cliff]

_I already know it's going to be amazing, when you share 4 wanted criminals as friends. _

https://posili.me/i/NZdUwUwL-2022-01-26_15-03-01.png

[worn ember]

why are they your friends 👀

[ashen cliff]

Maybe I'm also wanted or a fed.

[worn ember]

Wanted for molesting old hardware

[void void]

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1485976190410235906

Tom Warren (@tomwarren)

YouTube NFTs may be in the works. In a letter published today, YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki suggested the company is looking to branch into NFTs 😵 https://t.co/QvY1A2LrYM

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oh god

[worn ember]

when will this joke end

it stopped being funny months ago smh

[foggy veldt]

When rich people stop getting richer

[tropic flame]

when the internet stops becoming more and more corporate by the day

read: never

[spare venture]

that’s ignoring the snails pace they usually work at

[vernal moth]

https://c.tenor.com/iolJ1ZKkTaIAAAAM/thes-simpsons-lenin.gif

I hate prime video with a passion

Suuuuuch a bad product

Dubbed version is included but the OV they want me to rent?

And people wonder why piracy is still a thing

[golden gust]

Yeeeaaaa

Theres been a few times when a show has been available on prime and I've ended up sailing the 7 seas because there is something stupidly wrong, etc

best part is is being somebody who watches anime once in a while, most of the dubbing studios seem to have people whose voice just makes them sound like they should probs be banned from being within 500 yards of a school or something

mfw high school anime has a character which sounds like a 50 year old chain smoker from ohio

[charred sleet]

how come intellij community never crashed, but i upgraded to ultimate and it always crashes on me

[golden gust]

I mean, dozen more features, etc

they've been toying with some of the core stuff

[charred sleet]

oh wait KEK im out of ram

lol

its eating it all up 😳

[golden gust]

yea, all the extra indexing BS

it's nice but damn can it eat resources

[golden gust]

!ban @frank nest Piracy is not supported here

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned Chomeles | ᶠᶸᶜᵏᵧₒᵤ#9999 (Piracy is not supported here) [1 total infraction] -- electronicboy#8869.

[tall flame]

what's the difference between paid domain and subdomain that hosting gives

[golden gust]

well

one you "own", one you don't

one you have virtually full control over, one you don't; etc, etc

[golden gust]

dumcord be lyk

[mossy vessel]

Remember the days it used to be below 30

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvvjiE4AdUI

[safe plover]

Anyone got VPS recommendations ? Im looking for the cheapest one cuz i only need it to run a openvpn server and a waterfall proxy for like 10 people max

I guess absolutely anything gonna work for that

preferably somewhere in the EU

[ashen cliff]

Contabo.

[left swift]

bloom.host has ones in germany

ovh

[glass crag]

dont use ovh

i tried their £8 vps and it was so slow and kept killing the server

it couldnt even load a few chunks without dying

[ashen cliff]

TF were you doing?

And yeah, OVH is bad for IO.

[glass crag]

just loading a world

[golden gust]

VPSes for MC is just dum

Like, competent shared host / dedi > VPS / shithost

[left swift]

good thing they just wanted it for openvpn server and a proxy server

[golden gust]

yea, for both of those you've got really do something bad for it

probs just wanna go for OVH or one of those if you want a vpn server, assuming youre not expecting to bypass geo fencing

[neat oyster]

is root server better than vps

[golden gust]

depends on what a "root server" is

many terms are just wanketerring BS

[neat oyster]

netcup

[golden gust]

Basically, "root server" either means a VPS or a Dedi

depends on what they're saying, generally more-so the former

it's just one of many dozen terms used for a VPS

Some companies try to sell them as VDS

[neat oyster]

it has dedicated cpu and ram but storage and stuff virtual

[golden gust]

it's still a VPS

the CPU is virtual, the ram is virtual, etc

maybe something like openvz rather than KVM, etc, which pros and cons

[spare venture]

may be best to just link what you’re talking about

[golden gust]

But, at the end of the day, it's all the same general area

nutcup is a well known VPS reseller afaik

[neat oyster]

i see they have 2 things v server and root

so confusing

[golden gust]

they're just different lineups with different specs, etc

hint: You can't magically split a CPU up without a hypervisor

[neat oyster]

oh like pebble budget ans premium

[spare venture]

cut the cpu in half

[granite slate]

Guys I was wondering. I need an animated particle. I was thinking of using an armorstand that changes head every 3ticks. How resource demanding is this task for the client?

[golden gust]

some plans may offer better resource assurances, e.g. you get 2 cores which are always yours vs 1 core on overprovisioned hardware

[neat oyster]

i understand now ty

[golden gust]

Like, it's all the same area with potentially different provisions but it's all marketing BS, basically

[wide chasm]

That depends on the client, but with respect to the other tasks a client has to do, I would imagine it isn't too much of a problem.

[safe plover]

Vultr has a 512mb plan with a single core and 10gb of storage for 2.50 a month

I guess that might be enough.....?

[wide chasm]

For a server? 512MB RAM is not that much.

[safe plover]

for a proxy

and a openvpn server

[wide chasm]

For a proxy it should be fine

[safe plover]

Like

20 players at once is the absolute max its gonna need to hold

so..

[twin lagoon]

step one is not using openvpn

but using wireguard

[safe plover]

Whats the difference

[spare venture]

penny pinching usually makes things more difficult

[twin lagoon]

wireguard is faster

[safe plover]

Hmm.. Gonna look into it i guess.

Im using OpenVPN cause we needed to set it up at school in computer science classes, or whatever theyre called

[void void]

aaaand we're back

thank you discord

[limber knot]

#HugOps

how did you got colorful nick names

although it might be older, not sure

that's just how irc works, it's a client setting usually ya

(afaik)

which client do you guys use?

The lounge or busg

Bust*

I'm this guy https://xkcd.com/1782/

xkcd: Team Chat

2078: He announces that he's finally making the jump from screen+irssi to tmux+weechat.

You can just query the clients of other users

i use revolution irc since im on phone

bust is the worst name ever for an irc client lmao

^^

Is teamspeak opensource btw?

lol no

https://bounce.noah.pm/a/5f4364316aeb74b2/image.png

Guess you're going to jail phoenix

TeaSpaek is though

*TeaSpeak

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I only do gray shit

runs

[ashen cliff]

Working as expected.

[unkempt drift]

smh discord

FIX URSELF

[ashen cliff]

It's not summer yet, but it still fits: https://posili.me/i/Thu8RGHf-2022-01-26_21-30-04.png

[limber knot]

I shouldn't have restarted it 😔

[ashen cliff]

Thanks Discord.

[limber knot]

it's now stuck in a login loop

[vernal moth]

Database cluster corruption is no fun

[limber knot]

have a link to that mini because google is being dumb: https://i.phoenix616.dev/gxFBZJa3.png lol

What's cluster?

See I can't even tell anymore if people are joking

blame the oxford comma not being taught in my school I guess lmao

(or, you know, you writing it as a proper noun :P)

Damn i feel bad

I can hesr my heartbet inside of my ears

[haughty bear]

a potentially dumb idea, but what about a weather/climate plugin which uses some backend app of sort to calculate climate conditions (maybe a nice web interface?), which is then used by a plugin or fabric mod to change state and do stuff on the minecraft server side

[magic river]

I think this has been talked about before but https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i3-12100f/ looks really good for a MC server

[limber knot]

Boris: idk sounds overcomplicating

[magic river]

https://tpucdn.com/review/intel-core-i3-12100f/images/cinebench-single.png

[tropic flame]

thanks discord

[limber knot]

hi

this is my first time using irc

who needs discord anyways

[tropic flame]

i think it's back

[limber knot]

It is not

[magic river]

Even with that OC it's less than 200W for total system power when hitting it with a power virus (prime95)

[plucky sparrow]

It is back

[tropic flame]

it is for me, i even have friends in a voice channel at my server

coincidentally I started a modded server yesterday so i could still talk to one of my people cuz he was online there lmfao

[limber knot]

Still stuck logging in for me 🤷

[void void]

hii

[glass crag]

hay

[tropic flame]

reopen the client, maybe

it might just not log in unless you do

[limber knot]

okay seems to work now

[tropic flame]

it's a thing

gg

[limber knot]

Im banned here anyways so

[tropic flame]

[limber knot]

Banned from the dicord?

[tropic flame]

ban evasion mfw

[plucky sparrow]

[limber knot]

am i violating the rules

[plucky sparrow]

I think so yea

[tropic flame]

i mean yeah and you just admitted to be violating the rules

[glass crag]

that is kind of the point of a ban

[limber knot]

Yes, ban violation is against the rules

[tropic flame]

you took too much to add the /s

[limber knot]

ban evasion* lol

can you ban by ip on irc or smth

username or ip, yes

uh oh

[magic river]

https://tpucdn.com/review/intel-core-i3-12100f/images/performance-per-dollar.png

Yeah this thing seems like a slam dunk for dedicated MC servers

[proud cedar]

Good Photo!

[magic river]

You're not going to be running more than 1 server at a time on it so it'll take a lot of room though

So unless you're hosting at home it might not be cheaper

[void void]

eyyy we're back

[stray oyster]

Was never gone

Knowing which gateway to use is key to stay online in this kind of outage

[worn ember]

Five has insider info 👀

[stray oyster]

If I had I could attach myself to a gateway outside of staging and laugh at all you mortals who have to use the public entry points

But alas

That’s not the case

[worn ember]

wasnt it only login that was down?

[stray oyster]

No; api in it’s entirety

[worn ember]

ah rip

[void void]

they partially shut down logins to allow everything to come back up tho

[stray oyster]

Average response time of my bot went to around 7sec during all of this

But it stayed online

As did most other bots

Back to studying it is

[worn ember]

Upgrading mssql server
everything grays out and does nothing so i close it
restart the instance and get this error

M$ moment

[vernal moth]

Just use PG like any sane person please

[worn ember]

PG-13

foking hell time to yeet this shit

[worn ember]

trust me, i'd love to. Sadly its out of my control

[pearl mason]

Hello! Can you guys recommend me an Economy plugin and a plugin to protect chests? 1.18.1

[limber knot]

CraftConomy3 should work and LWCX for protection

[stray oyster]

Force uninstall is the only way to fix it if you don’t wanna break yourself by manually deleting hundreds of directories and registry keys

[lyric stone]

Any reccomended plugins for Endless Enchant for 1.18.x?

[turbid oar]

_ _
^\ | /^
|
/\

[warm anchor]

@worn ember @true canyon I've beaten my addiction.

[true canyon]

holy cow

[warm anchor]

Never again

[ashen forum]

ive been searching for so long and i swear i figured it out once, but does anyone knowhow i would make random wandering npcs with citizens2?

[worn ember]

[void void]

Yeah it was a command like uh... /waypoint or /path I think?

I set it up ages ago on my server, its one of those two.

[rancid void]

Oh you’ve got to be..

[magic river]

https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/25/22899586/youtube-nfts-crypto-susan-wojcicki

[rancid void]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[unkempt drift]

I'm pretty sure this is fake

[magic river]

https://twitter.com/discord/status/1486463929563828229

Discord (@discord)

Hey @ everyone connection should be fully restored now! Hope you touched a little grass while we were out. Thx for the patience. https://t.co/smYJJdJm3e

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Twitter · Jan 26, 2022, 10:19 PM

[foggy silo]

Oh my god

[magic river]

oops, wrong one

https://twitter.com/discord/status/1486427589879103489

Discord (@discord)

We are currently investigating a widespread API outage and are working to resolve this ASAP. More details on our status page: https://t.co/rq97JXB3gV

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Twitter · Jan 26, 2022, 7:55 PM

[foggy silo]

“Touch a little grass”

[unkempt drift]

no, the outage wasn't fake

[magic river]

I was giving the real downtime tweet

[unkempt drift]

but I don't see a tweet from discord today talking about crypto or NFTs

oh yeah ok

[foggy silo]

Well ya, but their twitter is funny sometimes

[magic river]

https://twitter.com/IntelGaming/status/1486482453912948739

Intel Gaming (@IntelGaming)

@discord We almost downloaded Skype while you were gone 😢

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Twitter · Jan 26, 2022, 11:33 PM

[spare venture]

can we ban the NFT acronym

[magic river]

Right after we get rid of pfp

[spare venture]

everything about them just makes me angry

[worn ember]

NFT NFT NFT NFT

[spare venture]

can we ban ded

[worn ember]

No.

[silver nexus]

The outage came as soon as I was trying to not pay attention in Spanish class :(

[warm anchor]

@void void this is the only correct solution to bot problem

[void void]

LOL

[neat oyster]

good idea

im going to execute this

[spare venture]

or just don’t have bots in the first place

[void void]

just don't have a server

[spare venture]

smh

although the hacked account ones kinda suck

[warm anchor]

not possible for publicly available discord though

[void void]

kinda on them

[spare venture]

you know it is

[void void]

they had shitty opsec

[spare venture]

you just don’t want to do it

[void void]

and they paid the price

[warm anchor]

I mean you can require basic security test on join but yeah

[spare venture]

bots aren’t enough of an annoyance to lose maybe 1% of your potential joins

haven’t had a bot hit my server in nearly 2 years since i fixed it

hacked players are tougher though.. but that’s on discord to fix or give us better tools to fix

[jade flax]

this is amazing

[foggy silo]

There will be people that will post in here i bet, at that point tho they deserve to be banned for not being able to read.

[neat oyster]

my server wen someone finds treasure map

[void void]

disable it then

[neat oyster]

you cant do that easily

[void void]

yes you can

it's in paper.yml

enable-treasure-maps

set it to false

[hearty spear]

What about the treasure maps?

So they lag the server or something?

[void void]

yes

[neat oyster]

oh i see

[hearty spear]

I didn't know that lol

[neat oyster]

lol

[void void]

i forget the specifics. but it does cause a considerable amount of lag

[neat oyster]

to 10 tps

at some times

[void void]

lolololol

yea... disable treasure maps lol

[hearty spear]

What hardware?

[neat oyster]

10g ram

*14

[void void]

that-

that is not indicative of your cpu performance lol

[neat oyster]

yes

[void void]

no

[neat oyster]

i mean i agree with u lol

[void void]

oh lol

[hearty spear]

What CPU?

[void void]

||14g ram|| /j

[neat oyster]

it is 2.6 * 4

in a vps

[hearty spear]

Lol

[neat oyster]

they didnt specify

[void void]

run neofetch?

[hearty spear]

That kinda matters

Lol

[void void]

just run neofetch and see

[neat oyster]

it says some xeon

but hides most stuff

[void void]

feel free to share

[neat oyster]

ok

[hearty spear]

Neofetch would show

I would think

Just would show the cores available to you

[void void]

unless they set it up so the kvms are explicitly blocking that info

or like changing the architecture lol

but that would also be a hit to perf

so i doubt it

[hearty spear]

(like if the CPU really sucked and they wanted to hide what it had lol(

[void void]

ig lol

[neat oyster]

processor       : 3
vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
cpu family      : 6
model           : 85
model name      : Intel Xeon Processor (Skylake, IBRS)
stepping        : 4
microcode       : 0x1
cpu MHz         : 2593.906
cache size      : 4096 KB
physical id     : 0
siblings        : 4
core id         : 3
cpu cores       : 4
apicid          : 3
initial apicid  : 3
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 13
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc rep_good nopl xtopology cpuid tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq ssse3 fma cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch invpcid_single pti ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 hle avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rtm mpx avx512f avx512dq rdseed adx smap clflushopt clwb avx512cd avx512bw avx512vl xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 pku ospke avx512_vnni md_clear
bugs            : cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2 spec_store_bypass l1tf mds swapgs taa itlb_multihit
bogomips        : 5187.81
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 46 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

[void void]

Intel Xeon Processor (Skylake, IBRS)

yup

they set the architecture manually in the kvm

[void void]

you could've just of run neofetch lol

[neat oyster]

lol

[void void]

idk why you sent that much info

[hearty spear]

Literally neofetch works cleaner lol

[neat oyster]

wait afk brb

[void void]

figures out neofetch

[neat oyster]

no my class started

brb in an hour

[hearty spear]

Neofetch is not installed would you like to install it?

Lol

Well I guess we have an hour to wonder what CPU was sold to him. @void void

Anyways I'll probably head to bed

[void void]

lmao

[void void]

it's only midnight for me 🤷

[hearty spear]

Only 23:07 for me

[void void]

lul

[hearty spear]

But I have a crappy day job rn

So it's ehh

[void void]

i don't have a job

im 16

xd

just school 🙄

[hearty spear]

What with the wacc pfp

It's almost as bad as an NFT

[void void]

my friend drew it

BRUH

[hearty spear]

To be fair my phone is in b+w mode

Because night

So everything looks like crap

[void void]

turn it off and see smh

[hearty spear]

Good idea

Wow it even has color

😂

[void void]

yes, the hair color is actually my irl hair color lol

my hair is not that long tho

*yet

idk how long I want it

[hearty spear]

Idk I like to keep mine short

Ez to clean

[void void]

I've always hated having short hair

then after begging my mom for ages, she finally let me start growing it out lol

[hearty spear]

In the winter I like to grow mine out enough to keep my head warm lol

But summer

Ya I don't like it

[void void]

🙄 xd

[hearty spear]

Well I'll be moving to Canada soon for a while

So I guess I'll need to find some warm stuff

[void void]

I live in florida

it sucks

they're even going to maybe pass a bill that bans discussion of lgbtq+ stuff in school

and making teachers report students for being gay and stuff

to the parents

this is also a state where "conversion therapy" is still legal

it sucks

i want to move out of here asap

[hearty spear]

I find it interesting how many people are moving out of California

It's so cheap to rent a U-Haul one way into Cali

But going out it's 3x the price

[void void]

lul

[hearty spear]

If that doesn't show the state of California I don't know what else does

But imagine selling your crappy house for like a million bucks then moving somewhere else and getting like a big house

Because they don't tax the crap out of you

[void void]

it's better to live in an apartment though. better for the environment

fun fact. about 40% of energy consumption is used for climate control

[hearty spear]

Considering how poorly most apartments are made

They don't insulate them properly

[void void]

it's still better than houses

apartments have less surface area exposed to the outside

[hearty spear]

Well right now the biggest issue in cities is water consumption in the southwest

Lawns use up so much water

[void void]

lawns are so dumb. literally useless

we could grow so much crop with that land

[hearty spear]

I guess people don't wanna use a rock garden

I assure you we have enough food

[void void]

yea ik. but im saying that water would be better used growing something productive

instead of grass

[hearty spear]

Produce is cheap to grow

Cheaper than store

[void void]

well ofc

[hearty spear]

Although you have a very limited harvest and season depending on scale of a garden

[void void]

and where you're located

[hearty spear]

I happen to do a little gardening

[void void]

(that looks all dead, idk)

are you legit a farmer? lol

[hearty spear]

Ya that's before the growing season

Crop rotations

[void void]

ah

based

[hearty spear]

It was wheat

But then it's gunna go to hay

Hay stays in for a few years

[void void]

better for the soil! (crop rotations i mean)

[hearty spear]

You cut it 3x

A season

[void void]

hm

[hearty spear]

First of all a lot of people think farmers are stupid

[void void]

really?

[hearty spear]

Ya

I've had people tell me that fertilizer is bad

Also it's hard to overdo fertilizer because it costs so much

Literally try to avoid it

[void void]

interesting

[hearty spear]

So the whole run off thing

It doesn't really happen

As the fertilizer is very targeted

And metered

[void void]

i thought the run off stuff was with fertilizer they use for like lawns? i have no clue 😂

i never heard about run off from industrial farms

[hearty spear]

Simple nitrogen isn't gunna hurt anything

[void void]

well doesn't it like create algae blooms?

or smth

that has happened near me

(big algae blooms I mean)

[hearty spear]

The algae die off as they hit a population cap when they run out of resources

[void void]

yea

but it kills a ton of fish in the meantime

[hearty spear]

There are also bacteria that consume crude oil

Interesting things

[void void]

that's interesting

[hearty spear]

It takes time but it does happen

People just haven't farmed those bacteria yet

Literally imagine just dumping what is effectively a yeast culture on an oil sill

Spill

That would be cool

[void void]

interesting

yea

fr

[hearty spear]

Someday I guess

Lol

[void void]

yea

🤞

[hearty spear]

Hay

Lol

[void void]

lol

[hearty spear]

It's basically a glorified grass

[void void]

anyways. i should go to bed. 12:31 for me lololol

cya around

[hearty spear]

Ok lol

[rare geode]

Anyone ?

[hearty spear]

What?

[rare geode]

Come to voice

[hearty spear]

Ya I have a life

I need to sleep

😔

[rare geode]

Ohh I forgot

😬

[south matrix]

your name still has that S

[hearty spear]

I'm sure someone else can talk

[rare geode]

Lol you again 😆

[rare geode]

How bout now ?

[south matrix]

halfway there

[rare geode]

Nah I know what do you mean

Btw @south matrix How can I sell my Minecraft server to someone ?

[spare venture]

bruh

the way you sell anything else. this isn’t the place for it.

[rare geode]

Huh ?

@spare venture Are you not having enough sleep ?

[spare venture]

yes because i’m always with yo mama

[rare geode]

LOL

OFFENDED !

[spare venture]

made a good decision tonight

[magic river]

https://twitter.com/ryiron/status/1486207465918468097

Ryan Mallon (@ryiron)

I even wrote a patch at the time, which I sent to the maintainer and polkit-dev list. I can't find it in the archives though, so maybe it got bounced (I don't think I was subscribed). Wonder if the maintainer ever got it.

My 2013 patch mail is here: https://t.co/mYTOjpdZdt

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Twitter · Jan 26, 2022, 5:20 AM

[left swift]

bruh I would kill right now for tagalongs

[neat oyster]

susy

[proud lance]

good call on the thin mints

I like the coconut ones as well

but only 1 box

samoas or something

[golden gust]

thin mints

oh, I got them confused with something else

had in my head after eights

[magic river]

I order 3 thin mints, 2 trefoils, and 1 tagalongs every year. If I run in to some girl scouts in February I'll do it in person otherwise I just get them online

Sometimes I order more than that too, depends on how hungry I am when I do it 😛

[void void]

hey everyone, i want to ask about donator perks. i have a server that is not pay to win, all money spend by players will be used for cosmetics. but i want to make players can buy more claim limit, is it considered pay to win?

claim limit is a feature that's in griefprevention plugin, fyi.

[vernal moth]

Talk to your community to find out what they find acceptable

You need to support the hosting costs, they will understand that you need to make money somehow

Legally wise it's not an issue at all since it doesn't give you a competitive gameplay advantage

[void void]

okayy, i'll ask about it with my community.. thanks a lot!

[warm anchor]

remove mending from server and sell mending and exp bottle

[sudden tundra]

I'm wondering, can i make server devs laugh by just saying 0x1E ?

[whole prawn]

tbh sometimes i wonder if the reason why mojang doesnt do a good job at optimizing their server is because projects like paper exist

[vernal moth]

they just have other priorities

you know, they need to make content and the client

and they do spend time on the server for stuff like that, 1.18 showed that pretty good

[vernal moth]

no

[marble lark]

^

they also have to worry about the entire community too, and not just specific parts of the community

that's why modders are often perceived as better at creating content for the game; They only need to worry about the people that like the changes they make, as opposed to Mojang, since their changes affect everyone, and not just some people

[sudden tundra]

Can't they just ... Hire more peoples ?
It's not like it's small / indie studio

[marble lark]

they have been doing that

albeit slowly, over the years

[golden gust]

if "throw more devs at it" ever worked, we'd be in the metaverse already

[meager tusk]

the more devs the more bureaucracy

[upbeat falcon]

The Mythical Man-Month - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

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[golden gust]

an extra person doing large amounts of refactoring on the branch is an extra person whos work has to be merged into the tree, while not blocking the actual money making efforts, etc

Yea, was thinking it sounded mythical man month-eqsue

[magic river]

But yes, they could greatly improve things if they hired one or two people whose only job was to find ways to make things more efficient

[meager tusk]

its pretty simple actually

when you work on a team you have to actually care about the code you write

so other people don't fuck up

if it's just two people they can fuck around with hacks all they want to get shit done

[magic river]

Like, some of the stuff in Paper and Sodium should definitely just be in the game

A lot of it is "performance hacks" that either modify behavior or make the code messier for future work though

[meager tusk]

why doesn't mojang promote paper more?

i think it would be nice

[magic river]

Paper is, strictly speaking, not allowed by their licenses

They can have an unofficial official position that it's allowed but promoting it would be weird

[marble lark]

they're on great terms with Paper, that's good enough

last I heard they talk to each other virtually all the time

[tropic flame]

^ and that's why usually features that seem to come from mods feel simplified, e.g. bees, because truth be told, not everyone would welcome bee mechanics like in for example Forestry lmfao

where you can breed different species and do funny stuff with machines

[glass crag]

Tbh the only similarity is they're both based on bees, forestry ones aren't even entities

Should have copied the forestry butterflies 😻

[tropic flame]

yeah, they're items, right?

but i mean that's about the only thing that could be seen as an upgrade

i think forestry would benefit from having bee entities

[foggy elbow]

It's nice to see hetzner always providing latest best cpu for server (5950x/i9 12900K)
Some shared host will provide it so it's nice

[ashen cliff]

That price tho.

Do note, they spec their server cooling without turbo.

So... very fun, when you actually start using the CPUs.

[worn crest]

I'm fine with my i9 7900 for 75€

[marble lark]

aren't items entities

wait I'm confused

forestry spawns item entities as bees?

I'm overthinking it again aren't I

zzz

[ashen cliff]

Since I know people here work with networking, what do you use to map out clients on the network?

[foggy elbow]

Yes I saw that when I tried their 5950x that runned 3.8Ghz and 90°c
and they told me "it's upper default cpu clock, so it's fine"

my 5900x at ovh run well better

even if it's "hot" it runs at 1.65V lel

[ashen cliff]

Why TF is 83.3°C "overload"?

[foggy elbow]

because cpu is burning

[plucky sparrow]

Huawei has released their new P50 phones

They’re absolute dogshit

One of them is a foldable, which is quite a direct copy of the Z Flip 3

They don’t have google, 5G and have an ehh CPU (Snapdragon 888), considering how there’s already the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1

[worn ember]

https://tenor.com/view/dad-as-heck-cope-trying-to-cope-tower-of-babel-gaming-fwob-gif-22835903

[quick obsidian]

https://github.com/kennytv/list-of-shame/pull/73 the gc list of shame entry develops

@quasi valley read for a laugh

[spare venture]

that dude is kinda obsessed

people use stack overflow - shocking

the beef people will have over hurt ego in this community lol

[quick obsidian]

yeah nothing against using stack overflow, but copy pasting the full class with the debug method, and then even having it still be private - so that class is in the source tree, pasted directly, and then isn't even used because it's all private

[waxen panther]

hey barty

guess what

[spare venture]

no

[waxen panther]

willfp is auxilor

[quick obsidian]

thats me

[spare venture]

and?

[quick obsidian]

[vernal moth]

some people build confidence by shitting on others

[spare venture]

should spend more time on other things than adding to a “plugin list of shame”

[quick obsidian]

in this case ae really is every part as bad as its made out to be

[spare venture]

yeah he looks pretty bad

most spigot developers are

make a bot that loops through the entire repository and creates a pr for each

[quick obsidian]

true, but most spigot developers haven't made tens of thousands of euros from their shit code

obvioulsy some have - ae (obviously), ewg, and probably a couple others

[spare venture]

it would make more sense to remove them from the list of shame than add them

yeah that’s true

[quick obsidian]

ae is one of the most profitable plugins ever made while being one of the worst made

[spare venture]

making a lot of money violating a license definitely opens you up to criticism a little more

[quick obsidian]

exactly

[vernal moth]

if you don't have morals, making money is easy

for some money is more important than morals

[worn ember]

Selling pet insurance be like

[vernal moth]

I feel attacked DED

as an apprentices I literally did build our app that sells health insurance for cats and dogs

"health"

only operations are covered iirc

and that product is like exclusively sold on facebook and tiktok

[quick obsidian]

morals are cringe that's not the point

[vernal moth]

morals are the fundament of our society

[quick obsidian]

depends on the society lmao

[vernal moth]

guess you are an american

[quick obsidian]

but yeah obv im exaggerating, morals are the groundwork for any civilization

[quick obsidian]

nope ,but i was talking about americans lol

[spare venture]

did you see that reddit mod that interviewed on fox news

[quick obsidian]

yeah

funniest shit ever

[worn ember]

thats why i said it 😉

[spare venture]

an admitted rapist who works 10 hours a week walking dogs is not a good representative of a labor movement

[vernal moth]

insurances are weird products, they can be a giant scam or literally safe your life

[quick obsidian]

insurance is gambling thats how it is

[vernal moth]

whats important is that you make an educated decision when purchasing one, thats what I want to empower our customers on

thats why I am rewriting literally every single customer facing app that allows you to purchase one, lmao

first one is already the worst one, car insurance, thats such a complicated product

after that the others are hopefully easy, lol, altho the health ones are complicated too I guess

[worn ember]

just dont get sick and dont crash ez

altho i think they're required to have by law

[wide chasm]

Depends on where you live

[twin lagoon]

@lavish compass

[rare python]

So the list of shame claims that FAWE is good at breaking things

How good at breaking things exactly

And what evidence is there?

[mossy vessel]

Is that an NFT in general

[jagged widget]

anyone know a more stable fork/implementation of FAWE for 1.8?

I keep getting ghost blocks all the time

[rare python]

1.8 is not supported

Be gone

[jagged widget]

that brings back memorys

[cyan obsidian]

Lol I was gonna send that I'm pmmp server I send it here by mistake

[lavish compass]

@twin lagoon

[rare python]

What is it with people randomly ping eachother

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther

[jagged widget]

@rare python 💀

[rare python]

Oh no

[waxen panther]

@untold meadow

[untold meadow]

@little frost

@lavish compass out of curiosity do you play genshin

[twin lagoon]

@lavish compass out of curiosity do you play genshin

[lavish compass]

no

[untold meadow]

okay carry on

[lavish compass]

fuck random spywares

[untold meadow]

but it's fun spyware

[little frost]

@untold meadow best kezz

except for the genshin part

otherwise best kezz

[rare python]

Your all crazy

[untold meadow]

can't believe im being attacked for playing genshin by two different people both of whom have weeb profile pictures

crazy world

@little frost best emilia though (except for the except for genshin part)

[little frost]

it's one thing to have a cute profile picture and another thing to play spyware

[untold meadow]

i do both 😎

[little frost]

true

[rare python]

I see no difference between software and spyware.

They have become the same thing.

Windows in a nutshell.

[untold meadow]

the only good spyware is @waxen panther

[twin lagoon]

TRUE

[waxen panther]

(three)

[untold meadow]

you don't have a weeb profile picture

it's just weeb-adjacent

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor thoughts on tokyo ghoul

[warm anchor]

Don’t be bullied kezz. It’s ok to play genshin. Just be broke so they cannot take your money

[warm anchor]

Edgy anime.

[untold meadow]

@warm anchor BEST eternity

[rare python]

Minecraft is the only game you will ever need.

[untold meadow]

and dw, i am lucky that my favourite characters are all 4*s :D

cheap af

[warm anchor]

[lavish compass]

@warm anchor

[warm anchor]

Hi @lavish compass

[lavish compass]

@warm anchor thoughts on domestic girlfriend ?

[warm anchor]

Not my cup of tea. hori san to miyamura kun if you want those type

End of an era

[tropic flame]

honestly? if i had to pick one game to play forever and only that one, it'd be Minecraft

with the right mods you can turn it into basically anything

[rare python]

Minecraft is not really a game anymore, it's a platform.

[tropic flame]

so i wouldn't feel like I'm running out of game genres to play

[tropic flame]

eh, the Java Edition still feels more like a game to me

Bedrock is what really got platformized though

good for Mojang, i guess, but microtransactions 🤨

[rare tiger]

really a shame that the vast majority of players play an objectively worse version of the game

runs

[viral hornet]

Where are you running to

[rare python]

Even if mojang tried to kill off java edition the game would not die.

Proof: People still play 1.8.9 🤣

Honestly if mojang were to attempt to kill off Java Edition I could see there being a group of devs who make a mod with the aim of keeping Java Edition feature level with Bedrock, possibly a few different projects all competing to do this?

[left swift]

if java edition ceased I can finally be free

[warm anchor]

but you are still sub to pokimane

[neat oyster]

why do plugin apis have java docs as documentation

it doesn't provide enough info

[rare tiger]

the java circlejerk

[rare tiger]

they probably know this, so they at least keep supporting it so they have some semblance of control over the java edition of the game

by adding shit features or stop updating people are just gonna mod it and become less dependent on microsoft

[rare python]

👀

I hate AnvilGUI with a passion

There maven repo keeps causing issues.

Don't know why.

[left swift]

[neat oyster]

[warm anchor]

You will only truely be free if you stop subbing to pokimane @left swift

[left swift]

[neat oyster]

where is pokiman

[rare tiger]

wtf nomana is still doing this :(