general

[golden gust]

companies have had their entire IP ranges blacklisted meaning that the customers on their network can't send emails properly, which, you can imagine has massive implications on income for the DCs when people need to leave so they can send emails, as well as the potential hit on web trust scores, etc,

[hushed pasture]

Yeah, i Understand the Virtual Card Part

but it's Still Super Buggy

[ashen cliff]

Virtual card = Prepaid card.
Aka. not accepted by most sites.

[neat oyster]

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/WqqMMphD-2022-01-24_13-25-21.png

[marble lark]

hey

that's where i live

kek

[left swift]

ovh

[golden gust]

singapore?

ouch.

[rare tiger]

the monitor is surprised that it hasn't crashed yet

[golden gust]

OVH has direct to cloud uploads

or, well,at least they where trying it last year

[lavish compass]

How reliable and reputable is it compared to something like hetzner?

[rare tiger]

battle of the german hosts

[twin lagoon]

not comparable

[warm anchor]

You live in OVH’s Singapore datacenter??

[rare tiger]

free central heating

[golden gust]

hetzner, ittt's greeeat

[lavish compass]

how so? I've never used/heard of netcup before

[twin lagoon]

i've known them for a while, very reliable from what i've heard, but it's just virtual servers in the end

fun for personal usage assuming you don't need the latest and greatest hardware that hetzner offers

but such hardware for cheap pricing is generally also the only reason people use hetzner

you're not getting more than an epyc 7702 at netcup

[golden gust]

oh, damn, need to go for "pro" for dedicated servers from netcup

[lavish compass]

speaking of which, has anyone used 12th gen intel on hetzner yet?

[golden gust]

I've been with hetzner for a few months now, not really used the box much but network wise they seem to lag a good chunk behind OVH

[marble lark]

yes

[rare tiger]

pricing and scalability are very related when it comes to server providers

[neat oyster]

https://heavynode.com/ is this good

i heard that these are kinda reliable

[golden gust]

last I knew they where okay

nothing to write home about

[neat oyster]

i will prolly switch to netcup next month

before billing

[golden gust]

not really recommended, but, you do you

[neat oyster]

but it is WAYYY better than time4vps

[vernal moth]

netcup is a small cute hoster, not even in one of the big cities with internet connects, but they have a long tradition and are part of a big network nowadays

[lavish compass]

imagine if hetzner got good ddos protection and network like ovh

that would be fire

[void void]

ovh is already fire

[rare tiger]

i use vultr to host a small mc server alongside other things 😳 feel free to spitroast me

[golden gust]

very few hosts are gonna invest like OVH

OVH is great for boxes as a commodity but when you wanna go "big", you need the enterprise plans to get hardware catered towards your needs

[lavish compass]

equinix be like

[golden gust]

smaller hosts do semi accomidate for that, but, generally selected configs otherwise week deploy times

[lavish compass]

hold my beard

[waxen panther]

@lavish compass

[lavish compass]

@waxen panther

[waxen panther]

[twin lagoon]

@lavish compass

[lavish compass]

@twin lagoon

[worn ember]

[neat oyster]

[rare python]

You are all crazy

[young oriole]

does anyone here use "fast async worldedit"? if so, can you recommend it over the standard worldedit? is it as stable and as compatible with other plugins and paper as the standard worldedit is?

[limber knot]

you should not run it on a server where players actively play nor without backups

[young oriole]

oh alright! so it´s not really stable? then I´ll probably keep working with the standard worldedit

ty! 🙂

[limber knot]

it depends on what you do really

[crimson haven]

I only use it on the creative server. So not an important one. You have a lot more features with it and it's pretty fast and can also handle extremely huge operations very well. But sometimes it's buggy and als causes Server crashes from time to time. So if you can live with that use it. Otherwise use standard world edit

[limber knot]

on a live server you want to only ever use normal WorldEdit for small stuff

[young oriole]

these information are really helpful! thanks a lot you two! I´ll definitely stay with the normal WorldEdit then. I prefer having a stable server over one that has maybe a couple of additional features but is buggy sometimes

[crimson haven]

If I have to perform a really big operation i usually do it like 8 in the morning and put it in the live server, do what has to be done and change back to normal worldedit afterwards

[lavish compass]

Half corrupt pastes my beloved

[young oriole]

alright!

[left swift]

no fawe command

papermc changed

[tropic flame]

https://kotaku.com/pokemon-fps-pikachu-unreal-engine-pc-mods-nintendo-lawy-1848408209

haha yes

Nintendo so lovely

[warm anchor]

I mean at this point you should know this

“Let me use assets that doesn’t belong to me and make this game” then get surprised it’s being asked to take down

Whoever wrote that trash article has no concept of IPs it seems

[tropic flame]

i know about copyright and i still don't stand for a multi billion dollar company, thamk

but i guess they were faster for this specific one because it's about shooting the monsters lol

not like making creatures battle each other as it is in the games couldn't be considered animal abuse but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vernal moth]

is that even nintendo assets or did they recreate them from scratch?

[golden gust]

whom created the assets is generally irrelevant

[rare tiger]

the likeness is copyrighted either way

[vernal moth]

it isn't, because thats copyright vs just IP

[golden gust]

noting that trademarks are a "defend or lose it" type thing

[vernal moth]

theres also a difference between small hobby project and a commercial use

[glass crag]

it looks a bit like that new pokemon game too

arceus or w/e

[vernal moth]

the new pokemon game people have been meming about because it looks like a ps2 game?

which, considering its on the switch, is fitting I guess

[rare tiger]

nintendo still bad, they take down completely free passion projects that take years to make just cause muh IP

[golden gust]

they literally branded it as a pokemon FPS

because "defend or lose"

[vernal moth]

is it even downloadable?

[warm anchor]

Just because your project is fun and free doesn’t mean IP law doesn’t apply toyou

[vernal moth]

they took down tweets

[golden gust]

companies aren't gonna fuck over their exclusive licensing rights because you wanna pet project

[vernal moth]

I mean, come on

[rare tiger]

ps2 games can look great i think you're giving it too much credit

[glass crag]

i mean.. where do they draw the line of "passion project"

[rare tiger]

every other studio on the planet doesn't seem to be at threat of dissolving into nothing because of a kid's romhack but okay

[tropic flame]

they don't

[golden gust]

thing is that much of this is use or lose

[wide chasm]

It's Nintendo/Game Freak/Creatures Inc./whatever, they don't care, they'll take anything down

[golden gust]

if nintendo start allowing every project to run around taking their protected names, they'd lose them within the next 10 years

[warm anchor]

“Other people don’t care” is not a valid argument for this

[golden gust]

Now, some companies are much more open to this as they wanna create a wider community and thus take those risks

[vernal moth]

nitendo are just dicks

other companies don't care

[golden gust]

comic books could easily take down fan art but the communites which spew around them are the biggest assets that they have

"don't care" is subjective

every company looks after its own profits

[wide chasm]

If this wasn't an FPS, maybe it would have stayed up for an hour longer

[rare tiger]

I'm not talking about legally, if everyone just acted in the most selfish legally accepted ways then the world couldn't go round.

[golden gust]

Sometimes they're willing to turn a blind eye to IP infringement because it works good for them to have a blazing fan sub around stuff

but, for companies like nintendo where their biggest means of profits is their IP and only their IP, they don't wanna risk losing their claim on that stuff

are they assholish about it? yea, sure

do I really blame them with how trademark laws, etc, work? eeeeeh, not exactly

[warm anchor]

I still didn’t see the wrong in Nintendo. They are protecting their IP rights

[rare tiger]

There's actually a pretty big debate if people streaming games are providing a substitute for the actual game, especially for movies disguising themselves as games. Most studios don't talk about this though because the backlash from angry gamers wouldn't be worth it

[golden gust]

some companies have talked about it

[wide chasm]

It's not so long ago that the Nintendo Creators program was still in effect

[rare tiger]

They don't need to do so anywhere near to the extent that they do

[golden gust]

the question is is can they do much about it

bearing in mind that the streamers are one of the best marketing tools they have

[warm anchor]

You can still submit request

[golden gust]

like, AAA games are pretty much insta-sold on the shops from EA, etc; but, for the smaller games and such, the biggest advertisement is word of mouth

[warm anchor]

That’s how hololive and 2434 did. You have your studio to send in stream request and they will look and approve it.

[golden gust]

I didn't buy factorio because I saw an advert for it, I bought it because I saw some gameplay and figured, if I can get into that, it might be fun

[warm anchor]

That’s the proper way of doing things instead of just assuming

[rare tiger]

Good point, games like factorio have much more value in playing yourself than watching someone else play it. I feel like those kinds of games are the most ethical to stream. But watching a streamer make le funny reaction to windows movie maker jumpscare gets a lot more views

[golden gust]

part of it is that people make shit games these days

[warm anchor]

Trash AAA title

[golden gust]

I watch the odd factorio video here and there cos even though I've gotten into it a few times I've never gotten crazy far, but, the vids don't impede my ability/will to play the game, tat's more because I have the attention span of a potato

[warm anchor]

With 20 hour playtime

[golden gust]

Well, the big thing these days is online play for the AAA's

[rare tiger]

Some of the best games require patience to appreciate (addicted to satisfactory)

[wide chasm]

May I recommend 100% completing games, sucks all the fun out of it, but it does increase the play time five times

[golden gust]

COD even tried removing the campaign oneyear iirc

[warm anchor]

Remember the good old day of playing age of empire with actual quality quest and historical reference

[left swift]

wololo

[rare tiger]

100%ing used to be a lot more fun and rewarding, it used to be possible to 100% a game by just keeping your eyes peeled in a normal playthrough. now it's just a chore so that the box can say 500 hours of playtime

"gotta look up the walkthrough to find the 69420th golden egg"

[neat oyster]

A

[wide chasm]

The game I'm currently playing has permanent missables. "Oh you forgot to do this? Well, fuck you, go play the entire game from the start again if you want 100%."

[neat oyster]

i keep falling into the void when i join any server (internet is not the problem other games are fine)

[worn ember]

play on better servers then

[tropic flame]

cease & desist your internet problems

Nintendo style

😎

that's how i do when my ping is high

suddenly i do be playing with -10 ms ping and start predicting the future

[golden gust]

Okay

can you C&D your life span?

I mean, what

[worn ember]

lmao

[tropic flame]

that's pretty easy to do, i just gotta start smoking

[worn ember]

smoke some ethanol

[tropic flame]

even though... my father's lungs must've been made of steel because he managed to die of a workplace accident before a cancer appeared

[warm anchor]

Ded just coz you love on top of gas station doesn’t mean you can be a free loader

[neat oyster]

it does to every server

[tropic flame]

quite a feat

[neat oyster]

lol even hypixel

[worn ember]

just cuz you live on the same planet doesnt mean you can talk to me

[tropic flame]

DAMN

[warm anchor]

Wow!

[tropic flame]

why you do eternity dirty like that, bro

eternity is based

[worn ember]

he knows i love him

[tropic flame]

they are anime person

[wide chasm]

Are you just assuming Eternity lives on the same planet as you?

[worn ember]

since there have not been any other signs of life in space i'ma assume what i want xD

[wide chasm]

Not very inclusive of you Dark, let me find my ban hammer

[rare tiger]

"next you'll say 0x45"

[neat oyster]

i have apparently 0 ping lol

[worn ember]

[neat oyster]

when u lag so hard u become best wifi man

[worn ember]

just lag 86400000ms behind

[warm anchor]

[neat oyster]

nice view man

[pastel lodge]

@terse dew where can i find documentation for the mineskin api

sorry for the wild ping

[warm anchor]

oh yes pinging people at random discord for support

[vernal moth]

have you, uuuhm, tried the website?

[warm anchor]

That would require effort!

[left swift]

@warm anchor how do I find out where to buy valorant skins

[warm anchor]

idk I dont play riot game

[worn ember]

@vernal mothhangar docs were???

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/nVx3fYl.png

[neat oyster]

@edgy palm where can i buy vbucks??

[left swift]

ban ded

[vernal moth]

@pastel lodge

[pastel lodge]

yes i can't dm her

[warm anchor]

yeah dont

tha'ts even worse than pinging

[vernal moth]

just read the website, lmao

[warm anchor]

LOL

[pastel lodge]

i can't read

[worn ember]

same

[warm anchor]

well I cant read either but you dont see me bothering people

[worn ember]

you're bothering me rn

[pastel lodge]

i don't think a tag is bothering

i asked literally information

and you're literally bothering me rn

[vernal moth]

information thats easily available

[warm anchor]

which is available on the website

[pastel lodge]

you're being annoying

[warm anchor]

lol

[neat oyster]

better than kids pinging everyone and failing lol

[pastel lodge]

i can't read

[vernal moth]

!kick @pastel lodge can you read this?

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Kicked NiceCraftz#2657 (can you read this?) [2 total infractions] -- MiniDigger#3086.

[warm anchor]

LOL

[neat oyster]

LMAO

[worn ember]

still typing

oh nvm

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor

@lavish compass

[worn ember]

now he gonna complain on spigot discord how paper mods are abusive

[pastel lodge]

bruh lmao

[golden gust]

she literally has a discord

[vernal moth]

good thing that I am not a mod, lmao

[warm anchor]

good morning michael

[golden gust]

there is literally documentation

[worn ember]

true

[pastel lodge]

i can't read

[golden gust]

don't ping random people on our discord

[pastel lodge]

one of my issues

[golden gust]

Then you can't get support

[vernal moth]

finding that requires reading

[pastel lodge]

i couldn't dm her neither find anything on google under the search "MineSkin API"

[golden gust]

they literally have a discord link in the footer.

[vernal moth]

like, its literally all in the footer

[void void]

Helo

[pastel lodge]

i don't read footers, they most of the time contain useless info

[golden gust]

the common place on any website for providing information towards contact links and documentation.

[left swift]

no answers only support!

[worn ember]

clearly

[vernal moth]

people like you are why our society is failing

[pastel lodge]

bruh lmao

[left swift]

I am pogchamp

[worn ember]

lmao calm down mini

[vernal moth]

I mean, its true, no?

[pastel lodge]

its not

[worn ember]

but yeah imagine if someone like you showed up 20 times a day pinging people to ask for basic support questions that are covered by the docs

[pastel lodge]

even you are bad at something

[neat oyster]

im going to speed run finding its api

start the timer

[warm anchor]

Remember the good old day of doing your own research and spend time on issues?

[pastel lodge]

if you know where it is it doesn't count

[worn ember]

i literally googled it

[golden gust]

there is a difference between being bad at something and expecting extra entitlements because you're lazy/"can't read"

[worn ember]

and found it in like 3 seconds

"i use your service so you're at my mercy"

[pastel lodge]

i also googled it

[neat oyster]

i dont even know what mineskin is

before tday

lol

[left swift]

show ur passwords

[worn ember]

i mean, google is pretty good at giving you what you want

see, even cat can do it

[vernal moth]

bruh get an ad blocker

[worn ember]

i have ublock origin

[pastel lodge]

lmao

[golden gust]

welcome to the internet

[neat oyster]

https://rest.wiki/?https://api.mineskin.org/openapi.yml

spedrun complete

[left swift]

ur bad adblocker is why society is failing ded

[worn ember]

wtf

its our bad adblocker

[pastel lodge]

if you support trashy ads ok

[left swift]

communist adblocker

[worn ember]

yes

[pastel lodge]

you're kinda nonsense

[left swift]

you really can't read

I pity whoever you trick into giving you money for work

that must be a nightmare

[pastel lodge]

im nice to everyone

you're being annoying to me everytime i ask for something

[worn ember]

you called him nonsense, that not nice

[pastel lodge]

literally he's shitting on me

[vernal moth]

lets not degrade to personal attacks

[left swift]

I'm telling my therapist

[vernal moth]

I was already walking the border, lol

[pastel lodge]

u crossed the border

[neat oyster]

waut

[golden gust]

listen here, russia

[vernal moth]

I also think we got our point across

[worn ember]

deport mini

[warm anchor]

bad troll lol

[worn ember]

he crossed the border without visa

[left swift]

no politics

[pastel lodge]

if it's too hard to give an hand lmao

[vernal moth]

it literally is

[neat oyster]

and his passport expired 69 days ago

he did the illegal that is bad

[pastel lodge]

well i was in general someone else could have replied without annoying me

[vernal moth]

because if I would do that every day to the 30k people in here, I would not be able to do anything else

[pastel lodge]

and starting this mega thread

[worn ember]

Giving people shit for not doing basic research gives me life

[golden gust]

well, I mean, you coulda just like, not ping a random person in our channel

[left swift]

2 people literally showed where you can find the docs man

[pastel lodge]

it's the developer

[left swift]

move on with ur life

[golden gust]

We don't care

random person

[warm anchor]

ask to not be annoyed
pings others to annoy others

This guy has no selfawareness lol

[pastel lodge]

its not random

[golden gust]

they have no association with this project, thus, it is a random person in the community

[pastel lodge]

how am i annoying others

just put yourself in do not disturb and reply when you can

[golden gust]

I really don't care to argue the sementics

[pastel lodge]

if you think a ping is annoying then you really need a therapist

i find it cool to be pinged

[worn ember]

or you could do a basic google search and be on your way, why are you making such a big deal out of something so trivial

[left swift]

its YOUR fault for being online!

[vernal moth]

well, you got pinged once a week

[warm anchor]

ok that's a bit too far now therapist lol

[pastel lodge]

not true

[vernal moth]

if we didn't tell people not to ping us, I would get pinged once a minute

[golden gust]

I mean, I don't want to be pinged for sight issues, you know, basic curtesy

[worn ember]

cat has it in his name and still gets pinged 50 times a day

[pastel lodge]

cuz you know reply thingy puts itself to automatic ping

[left swift]

stunlocked

[golden gust]

I don't want people to ping random people associated with random projects in the community cos they wanna ask for support with some random thing

[left swift]

when's ban

[pastel lodge]

its useless

[left swift]

yea?

[vernal moth]

literally 16 pings yesterday

[neat oyster]

nomana no i got bullied for saying this by 2 ppl

[left swift]

the difference is I am the papermc general

[pastel lodge]

it would not make sense, you ban me because I could not find something on google and I sent a notification to the developer of the site lmao?

[vernal moth]

nobody is banning anyone right now

I mean

unlesss

[pastel lodge]

lol

[golden gust]

I mean, we told you not to ping random people

we showed how easy it was to get the info

[left swift]

ur lucky I cant ban people

[vernal moth]

nomana wiz 3.0

[golden gust]

you started the "I can't read" bs, and then wanted to get into a sementic argument over how we enforce the rules

[pastel lodge]

tho you're still annoying me by doing "sped run omg im so good"

[left swift]

I would be worse than wiz

[pastel lodge]

like i couldn't care less thanks for the link that's it

if i can't find something i ask someone to help me

i don't think that is annoying

[left swift]

5 times already

people have provided you the information

to find the link you want

[pastel lodge]

yeah by making fun of me

lol

[golden gust]

People showed how easy it was to find the info

[left swift]

well somethings deserve to be made fun of

[golden gust]

if people showing how easy it was to find the info is "making fun of you", maybe, as you say, need therapy

[vernal moth]

this topic is stupid

[pastel lodge]

like

[vernal moth]

lets stop

instead

tell me what I should order to eat

[left swift]

[worn ember]

could always go do arena fights if developing isn't your thing, dense bone structure it seems

[pastel lodge]

gran crispy mcbacon

[glass crag]

this server is sending me

[golden gust]

random moron in the community made random stupid comment

[left swift]

sending you where

[glass crag]

to hell

[worn ember]

its sending me bro, its lit, we be vibin, cope harder

[vernal moth]

I wanna eat food, not whatever mcdonals sells

[left swift]

u dont need our help for that

[neat oyster]

big pizza

[pastel lodge]

then pizza

[left swift]

döner

[pastel lodge]

without ananas

pls

its an insult to my country

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/09XjhKh.png

[glass crag]

whats an anana

[vernal moth]

theres so much to choose from tho

[golden gust]

you know bro

maybe it's time for a health start

quit smokin

[pastel lodge]

pineapple sorry ananas

[golden gust]

quit drinking

[worn ember]

dutchie confirmed

[neat oyster]

there is only once correct choise ||dominos||

[pastel lodge]

no im italian

[golden gust]

order from "healthy food"

[glass crag]

oh

[warm anchor]

healthy food

beer

[glass crag]

pineapple goes with every pizza sorry

[pastel lodge]

WHAT THE FUCK

pineapple doesn't belong on pizza.

[worn ember]

https://tenor.com/view/fruits-pineapple-gif-10329373

[left swift]

if the website you're buying from has to mention something is healthy I wouldn't buy from there

[vernal moth]

actually dont like them

[tropic flame]

ananas is the true name for pineapple, periodt 💅

btw I'm Portuguese so it's ananás but screw diacritics in English

[left swift]

I dont think anyone actually likes dominos

they just eat it

[vernal moth]

they don't sell meat so they out anyways ^^

[pastel lodge]

why don't you get this

[worn ember]

my soap bottle says its vegetarian

[glass crag]

uk dominos is my fav

[pastel lodge]

is good, not healty, but its good

[vernal bone]

Get a bio pizza. I have doubts that it's actually bio but who knows.

[tropic flame]

bio as in biohazard?

jk

[worn ember]

bio as in bio

[golden gust]

God, I love my pizza

Like, you're just monching on the somewhat reasonable consistency of molten cheese, the thin layer of tomato paste, and the bread

the only thing that could ruin it, would be the squirt of a pineapple as you bite into it

[pastel lodge]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

[golden gust]

(seriously, wtf, how do people put pineapple on a pizza, like, tf)

[pastel lodge]

NEVER PUT PINEAPPLE ON PIZZA

[worn ember]

pineapple in general is pretty bad

[pastel lodge]

I HAVE SOMETHING TO GIVE U

this

its literally sheep meat, its good

with a spice of salt, made in italy

[worn ember]

man you're making me hungry

[golden gust]

implying you weren't already hungry

okay, I'll give credit, not said as often as I recall

[spare venture]

i have had a tough time finding a good pizza place here in seattle

[vernal bone]

It's actually pretty good, it makes the pizza, "juicy", not dry. With some ham it's great.

[spare venture]

i knew the best spots in town in columbus, so it’s kinda tough

[pastel lodge]

WANNA GET THE BEST PLATE IN ITALY

[glass crag]

yes it breaks up the cludgyness of pizza

[worn ember]

not even close to the real quality content

[pastel lodge]

carbonara

[void void]

Cat actually “inspired” me to make a bot for that lol

[pastel lodge]

italy is the capital of food

[golden gust]

if I wanted moist food I'd have mac and cheese, or a pot noodle sandwich

[void void]

Didn’t expect him to be inspirational tbh

[worn ember]

permaban on mention

[magic river]

Unless you're looking for that meat pie people call chicago deep dish pizza Seattle probably has better pizza places than Columbus

[golden gust]

Hey, I do some sane things bar scratch my ass

[magic river]

Just have to find them

[pastel lodge]

i just discovered what the colors of the italian flag mean
🟢 for the hills
⚪ for the hospitals that helped the people
🔴 for the blood dropped in war by the soldiers
🔵 for the faith in alliances during ww1 and ww2

[void void]

Careful, you’re going to summon Jroy

[warm anchor]

this is too early for JRoy to be awake

there is no need to worry

[pastel lodge]

imma ping him rq /j

[void void]

He’ll just randomly wake up

He has a sixth sense for this

[golden gust]

Okay, so

brexit

runs

[worn ember]

https://github.com/DarkEyeDragon/RandomTeleport/issues/197 i cant tell if this is an actual issue or he just confused why his server uses all the ram it gets lol

[pastel lodge]

ngrok is so useful for testing

i don't have to buy a server to run my instance

[warm anchor]

@worn ember ask for his startup flag

lol

[tropic flame]

imagine confusing history with politics

runs

[vernal bone]

cloudflared >

[worn ember]

sounds to me like its just related to chunkloading

[warm anchor]

inb4 Xmx=20G

and he is wondering why java use that much

[tropic flame]

the more the merrier, Brrrrr

/s

[magic river]

I want to say this is /r/im14andthisisedgy but it doesn't quite fit

[void void]

Can’t get GC lag if your server never has to garbage collect

[worn ember]

2TB RAM sticks

[tropic flame]

(ngl that's actually valid logic in my poopoo brain but i somehow know that's not how it works)

[spare venture]

the real way to summon him is to mention NFTs

[void void]

That has the side effect of summoning mini aswell

[worn ember]

tbh that wouldn't be such a bad idea, just let the 2TB fill and then do a 5second gc every couple of hours or something

[tropic flame]

just PR a GC to the JVM where it only collects when you call System.gc()

manual garbage collection brrrr

[wraith trail]

Already exists

Well, not that exactly

But close enough

[worn ember]

C moment

oh you can delete issues now

or has that always been a thing?

[limber knot]

been for a while

[golden gust]

was added in the past year or something

[worn ember]

oh well, my software is so good i dont get many issues

so hadnt noticed

[spare venture]

mmmmmmmmmm

[worn ember]

[unkempt drift]

You can’t delete PRs yourself tho, but you can just ask gh support to.

Not sure why 🤷‍♂️

[bright vale]

Does anyone know how to get rid of this

[worn ember]

git history related maybe?

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/YVt7s1e.png

[worn ember]

is that w11?

[vernal moth]

theirs is mine isnt

[golden gust]

er

what mini screenshotted

[lavish compass]

[worn ember]

my windows just likes to give up on icons

[golden gust]

ded, have you ever watched i, robot?

[worn ember]

with will smith?

[golden gust]

yea

[vernal moth]

from back when will smith made good movies

[worn ember]

yeah

[golden gust]

you just reminded me of the scene where smith was like "why does shit always malfunction around me"

[worn ember]

i am legend

[worn ember]

man thats so me

[golden gust]

ifkr

[worn ember]

i should do QA tbh

i'd find bugs by twisting the cosmos

i am legend is probably my favorite will smith movie

[golden gust]

don't recall watching that one tbqh

oh, wait, actually, yea, I did, a few times

zombie like thing?

[worn ember]

yeah

[spare venture]

i robot is harder to watch, didn’t age as well

i am legend is such a good movie, but so damn stressful to watch

[worn ember]

i didn't like the ending but oh well

good movie non the less

[spare venture]

yeah the alt ending was better

[worn ember]

well i got 2 weeks off, time to do a DSP playthrough

[left swift]

best will Smith move is pursuit of happiness

[golden gust]

Well, back in the days of pre-streaming, all you had was your DVD collection

we used to watch VHS

[worn ember]

bish my VHS collection is bigger than my dvd collection

[left swift]

we had a whole bookcase of VHS and another of DVDs

[golden gust]

DVD had a shorter lifetime vs DVD, at least here

^^

Like, peoples VHS collections started in the 70s here

[warm anchor]

remember HD-DVD?

[golden gust]

DVD came like mid 2000s-ish

[worn ember]

we ripped VHS to dvd's at some point lol

[left swift]

digging through the $5 DVD bin for new movies

[warm anchor]

digitalize VHS is still a thing here ded

[golden gust]

and then DVD kinda started phasing out early 2010's with streaming being more of a thing

[warm anchor]

for those old stuff

[golden gust]

ever obtained a movie over dialup?!

[left swift]

blurays were annoying

[worn ember]

those never really caught on here

[warm anchor]

eMule moment zcat

[golden gust]

Never got into blu ray

Like, I mean, as I say, grew up at a fun time

[vernal moth]

I though blu ray were for nerds before I realize my ps3 is a blue ray player

[worn ember]

by the time blueray was a thing we already used sat and streaming

[golden gust]

on a council estate, when your TV is a huge fuckin CRT still, like, you know 😄

[warm anchor]

remember needing 5 people to move your TV??

[golden gust]

moving the tv

bro

[worn ember]

we needed 2 to move our plasma tv

[golden gust]

people used to fucking leave CRTs with the house

[left swift]

our tv that we used for the longest of times used to be the size of a car window

[warm anchor]

yeah its too huge

[vernal moth]

lmao, plasma

[warm anchor]

[left swift]

that's nuts thinking of what we have now

[golden gust]

like, especially when flatscreen was a becoming a thing

people would just leave the CRT and get a new flatscreen 😄

[worn ember]

say what you want but the quality on those is 10x better than LCD/UHD

[warm anchor]

I mean if you are in your late 20s to 30s

you will remmber the most big changes in tech

[vernal moth]

uhd is not a panel type

[left swift]

yea cat is old

[worn ember]

well ion curr

[left swift]

boomer

[warm anchor]

[vernal moth]

what age is late 20s?

[golden gust]

yea, am 27

[vernal moth]

am not late 20s yet, right?

[golden gust]

my knees started clicking many years ago

[left swift]

25-30 is late 20s mini

[vernal moth]

ill be 25 this year! 😮

[warm anchor]

Remember waking up everyday without pain?

[golden gust]

Like, I remember growing up with 5 TV channels

[warm anchor]

[left swift]

mid life already

[worn ember]

damn i'm almost late 20's

[golden gust]

well, basically 4 unless you figured out how to dangle the antenna

[worn ember]

i'll be 24 on the 3rd of feb

[golden gust]

but, that was channel 5, and channel 5 was mostly shit bar the odd movie

[warm anchor]

move it just to the right spot to get best signal

just to hae your house cat to fuck it up

[golden gust]

like, I remember the days of BBC being the king of TV

[vernal moth]

a friend of mine got electrocuted by his TV when fiddling with the antennas

passed out for a few mins, then just went on with his life

[worn ember]

oh cat that reminds me, i also distort radio signals, i used to have a radio and it would start playing white noise if i came near it, but it would only happen to me xD

[vernal moth]

until he told his parents and the got him to the hospital where he stayed 2 days, lmao

[golden gust]

everything you'd wanna watch was on BBC 1 sometimes 2, and thursday movie night on 4, and the odd daytime movie on ITV

[worn ember]

so i had to put it in the corner of my room

[golden gust]

lol, i mean, electric shocks are deadly even after the fact

[spare venture]

moving a 65 in tv on you is a tough task

[golden gust]

like, people get a shock, man it out, and clock out a few hours later

[warm anchor]

It burns your inside

Sometimes people dotn know

[spare venture]

55 in is about the limit

[golden gust]

it mostly just fucks your heart muscles up afaik

[warm anchor]

And you get infection coz of the internal burn

[golden gust]

and it doesn't take much

never heard of internal burn being a thing but 🤷‍♂️

[vernal moth]

its mostly the hearth that they monitored

[worn ember]

oh its a thing

but only high amps

[spare venture]

oo my company is making me sign a document that says i have not been bribed at my job or had a conflict of interest in the past 12 months

love those

[warm anchor]

Literal human bbq

[golden gust]

"Yea, I had a conflict on interest with my bed"

[worn ember]

basically your blood vessels boil or your nerves scorch

[spare venture]

they’ve been successfully sued for violating anti trust laws like 4 times so it makes sense

[left swift]

lol

[warm anchor]

Look into your right before signing anything

[worn ember]

dont forget your left

[left swift]

then look into ur left

[warm anchor]

There is a reason why they want you to sign and you should be fully understand why first

[worn ember]

legal documents are always fun to read

[warm anchor]

I mean for a few thousand you can get a lawyer to read it for you

[left swift]

in other news my ovh commitment demon ends in march

been paying for a beefy dedicated server for like 1 player daily average for past 4 months

[spare venture]

i got an idea for you nomana

[left swift]

been fun

[worn ember]

💩 server

[warm anchor]

Could start your own host

[left swift]

pokihost

[warm anchor]

[spare venture]

when your contract is expiring, click the “do not renew after contract ends” and then go back and set it to auto renew

[worn ember]

get kiddies on your server then dm them that you got their ip and will ddos them unless they pay you $10

[left swift]

aight ded

weirdo

[spare venture]

you’ll probably get at least 6 months of “free” server access

[left swift]

lol

[spare venture]

then they’ll make you pay for it

am pretty sure they didn’t fix their panel when i did that

[left swift]

I already set it to terminate, also what's fucking cringe about their commitment shit is they dont let you change your auto renew status until the last few months lol and all their emails are being blocked by spam right now

[spare venture]

yeah switch it to auto renew monthly

[left swift]

so if I didnt already know the date I would've probably not known it was coming up

[spare venture]

their panel probably won’t charge you

[left swift]

and they default to auto renew the 1 year deal

[worn ember]

sounds scummy

[left swift]

yes

their commitment shit is full scum

[spare venture]

they couldn’t even fix it on their end

[left swift]

and if you dont do a commitment they charge like double the initial cost for "setup fees"

[spare venture]

they made me use their api to fix my servers billing stuff, gave me instructions and everything

[worn ember]

my next relation i'm making them sign a commitment contract otherwise you gotta pay a seperation fee

[spare venture]

good luck with that

[worn ember]

well ig thats just marriage

where the seperation fee is half your networth

[warm anchor]

The trick is

Just be broke

Half of $0 is still $0

[worn ember]

quick maths

[left swift]

trick is dont get married

loving others is for suckers

[worn ember]

true

they do be suckers

[marble lark]

you have way bigger problems than that if the amps are that high

[worn ember]

sure, but its interesting to know that while you die you're also being cooked

[left swift]

medium rare human

[neat oyster]

A

i need to have like 4+ minecraft open to test my plugin

[magic river]

Holy shit a coworker has had literally 3 months to support calling an API I made for logging in and it should have only taken him like a day, the only complication was it was hard to test

He is still bugging me at random about it

[worn ember]

lol

you know the saying: if you want it done right, do it yourself

[magic river]

It's slightly jank because he is basically hijacking the website login flow and then just has to avoid showing the website at the end and instead just snag the cookies and run (this was literally my best option)

That's probably the part he is still stuck on, he probably just has it open the website at the end and make the user manually close it

Although he has spent enough time on it we probably could have taken the time to get everyone on board to custom a custom login process for the app at this point

I gave him example code for how to do the take the cookies and run part

Like, I don't even do iOS stuff or Swift stuff and it took me like an hour to figure out how to write that part

[worn ember]

yeah i mean if you know what you need its pretty easy to just google stuff

but apparently thats not a given

[golden gust]

You know, like, I suffer from imposter syndrome very much

and then stories like that...

[worn ember]

oh yeah same

[vernal moth]

I hate stuff like that

its like, it takes me longer to explain a coworker on a different team how to implement something in their software, but if I continue to just do other peoples work, they will never stop

like, I care about the success of my projects, so I often do that kinda stuff, but its really bad

[worn ember]

all you need to do is your job and work on hangar

[vernal moth]

but I also had cases where I literally wrote the code, send in a MR and tested it on dev and they still didn't deliver on time, when they only had to merge and deploy

[magic river]

Yeah I had a similar problem, the other two on the team were still getting up to speed on things so I was always the best choice to do something because they always wanted it done now

But that meant the other two spent most of their time doing nothing and never got any better

[worn ember]

yeah thats not a solution either

[vernal moth]

oh in my own team I can at least make them watch or hold their hands

[magic river]

Meanwhile I was thinking about how long my savings would last me if I quit

[vernal moth]

that I don't mind

its other teams that are annoying me

[worn ember]

holding hands with mini

[magic river]

I finally pushed back hard, made them assign some of this stuff to the other two, and it turns out having it take a month instead of a day was okay after all

[vernal moth]

I need to be careful tho, there are at least two team members in this discord 😂

[worn ember]

its ok, they dont speak english in germany

[vernal moth]

prolly more employes I don't know of and who hopefully don't know my online name, lmao

[golden gust]

at-everyone hai peeps if u work with me he said. urbad

mini* brain, wow

[vernal moth]

the two that are in here are sane

[left swift]

mini you have your real name in ur name and on github dont you

[golden gust]

Oh, yea, he's just sayin' that. tocover his ass

[worn ember]

sane people in paper?

[warm anchor]

Hangar when ??

[vernal moth]

yes I don't try to hide ^^

[left swift]

[vernal moth]

people at work know me as a direct person and they respect that, I can say whatever basically

[warm anchor]

You don’t use real name ? @left swift wtf

[magic river]

Huh, I thought that was just a German thing

[left swift]

who are you why are you pinging me

[warm anchor]

It is but let’s let mini pretend

[magic river]

Maybe it's only the direct ones who get involved in open source stuff

[vernal moth]

oh am extreme

[warm anchor]

[worn ember]

when hangar releases first thing i'm making an apt install plugin

[vernal moth]

I think I called myself an insensitive asshole 3 times today already 😄

[left swift]

could be like cat with a ||made u click||

[worn ember]

jokes on you, i have spoilers disabled

[golden gust]

mfw I thought you was just an asshole

[left swift]

lol

[vernal moth]

you know it

assholes are attracted to each other 😂

[left swift]

[worn ember]

weird image in my head now

[golden gust]

i'd lick you

[worn ember]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-absolutely-fucking-not-gif-4496112

[vernal moth]

||the human centipede but reverse||

[left swift]

is the guy that made that movie in prison yet

[worn ember]

yeah pretty much xD

[magic river]

What guy that made what movie?

[left swift]

human centipede

[vernal moth]

the one about the german surgeon that stiches people together ass to mouth

[worn ember]

https://tenor.com/view/rio-dab-sspin-gif-12684706

[left swift]

no politics ded

[worn ember]

[warm anchor]

The only human centipede I encountered was in South Park

[vernal moth]

its kinda funny, the director/writer didn't tell anybody about what happens in the movie, not even the investors knew

[worn ember]

i remember that episode

the last one is pretty much a parody on its previous iterations

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozezG1zpxXQ

[vernal moth]

southpark has a good parody of the movie

[worn ember]

cat be like "wait i got a song about this"

[golden gust]

😄

[vernal moth]

he shared this before

[golden gust]

it's beautiful

[worn ember]

first time i hear it

[vernal moth]

in #music, lmao

#music message

[golden gust]

is more fancy than some of the other stuff I share

<scary movie pee video.gif>

[vernal moth]

is that the scene with kevin?

[worn ember]

https://tenor.com/view/thomas-it-was-time-for-thomas-to-leave-he-had-seen-everything-it-was-time-for-thomas-to-leave-he-had-seen-everything-gif-19039945

[golden gust]

was like #2 or maybe #3, was where they mocked the exorcist

#2

[magic river]

bleh, talked to coworker, his question basically boiled down to "so you're saying I have to log in to see orders?"

[worn ember]

so he has no clue

[short yarrow]

how often do you folks actually use a debugger? i haven't had to use a debugger yet since the bugs i encounter are usually easily identifiable through the stracktrace

[golden gust]

depends

it's a tool, one of many in the toolbag

sometimes the debugger is the best course of action

sometimes adding additional logs is all I can do to try and detect what is going on, etc

[void void]

I use it a lot for server related development

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[magic river]

Pricks

[rare python]

The glories of making code designed to run on the proxy and the server.

// Velocity gives us the data directory as a Path, and I prefer that to a File, so we will use that.
    fun startCommon(dataDirectory: Path) {

// The Bukkit of Forks gives us the data directory as a File, so we will just convert it to a Path and move on.
    fun startCommon(dataDirectory: File) = startCommon(dataDirectory.toPath())

[worn ember]

i use it a lot for debugging when i dont get a stracktrace or when i dont get a desired result so i step through the process

recursion and futures being one those those things that seem to often go poopoo

[golden gust]

really need async networking and keepalives, bleh

[worn ember]

yeah could use those too

hate timing out and then the watchdog shitting itself lol

[left swift]

stef is here run

[void void]

you can disable the watchdog btw

[wide chasm]

GDB can be very helpful in C/C++, for Java it's quite rare to be honest. But that's also because for plugins I run my code on a different device than where I program it, so good luck attaching a debugger to that.

[worn ember]

i remember it not working for me, maybe i set the value too high

[golden gust]

i mean, it's called printf debugging

[wide chasm]

Could be, had that in the past too

[golden gust]

just throwing debug statements around, etc

there is a system prop to disable it

I think spigot now supports disabling it with -1 too

[worn ember]

ill give that a go

[golden gust]

you can attach a debugger remotely, btw

[wide chasm]

printf is nice, but if you mess up in C/C++, your results may be different because of the printf. Technically can happen in Java too, but it's rarer in my experience.

[golden gust]

there is even a flag to make it wait until you connect the debugger to start running

[worn ember]

i mean ik about the remote debugging, didnt know about the flag for it

well ig you can remote debug to any machine in your network

[golden gust]

big issues really come with docker, etc

you've gotta make sure to forward that port, ideally to the machine, and then ssh forward it

[worn ember]

big words

[left swift]

small ded

[raven basin]

anyone know any plugins that allow you to warp to other servers for waterfall/bungeecord?

yk like the npcs that you can click and it sends u to a server

preferably free

I cant find any

[worn ember]

you can just use any npc plugin and make it execute commands on interact

should be possible with citizens

[crimson haven]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/masuitewarps-bungeecord-wide-warps-1-8-1-16.60454/
But it doesnt support npcs. But i'm sure there is another plugin that can perform the warp command for you

[raven basin]

thx

[raven basin]

is it free

[worn ember]

yeah

[raven basin]

alr it says 10$ on spigot

[worn ember]

you can build it yourself from github

[raven basin]

ok

[worn ember]

if you want cross server warps that wont work though only like /server <name>

[raven basin]

wdym

[crimson haven]

this one does it

[worn ember]

oh ok

[raven basin]

I get an error when trying to build

[night tartan]

Can someone possibly help me with a server to get the MSPT lower without restricting the players? https://timings.aikar.co/?id=7975c568a5414db8b35b388227a5b257 https://spark.lucko.me/IhOylc7HZO

I wonder how other freebuild servers do this without extremely restricting players.

[worn ember]

#paper-help

[raven basin]

alr

[worn ember]

building what

[raven basin]

citizens

[crimson haven]

citizens also has a jenkins for devbuilds linked on their spigot page. You can also download from there

[raven basin]

ok that would be easier

ill do that

thx

do I need to setup mysql for ranks and permissions to be across all the servers

[worn ember]

your plugin has to support it too more or less

[raven basin]

ok

it does

im using luckperms

[golden gust]

if you want all that stuff to be shared across servers, yea, you probs want mysql or some other database

[raven basin]

kk

[tired heath]

Well has been asked 1000times I guess, but I've been trough a lot of posts and videos, looks like current recommendations are NCPreloaded for free and Vulcan for premium AC, hyped stuff like Alice did disappear. Is this still actual?

[void void]

for what version

[tired heath]

1.18.1 only

with BE support

[void void]

vulcan is best 1.18 AC in ~$20 price point for sure

updated ncp if that's what you mean by ncp reloaded, is pretty meh and has some falses

[tired heath]

Price is not the most important factor, I just want no more headache 😄

a yeah, updated npc right

[spare venture]

https://tenor.com/view/shinegifs-gif-8555544

anticheat with BE support

[tired heath]

at least skipping stuff for BE

[void void]

soaromasac is decent too, but since price isn't an issue just go vulcan

it might be a good idea to use separate AC for BE

maybe themis on bedrock only mode

[warm anchor]

Best anti cheat is having a mature community

It’s free and no server performance hit

[void void]

^ that and a whitelist

[tired heath]

I know, I saw that messages on my research through discord 😉 but I can rather afford a premium cheat than mature players

^^

[void void]

in that case, for survival 1.18, vulcan is a no brainer

[tired heath]

Well, than I give it a shot

[worn ember]

when you play DSP but you cant forget about Minecraft

[tired heath]

By the way why Themis in BE only

so good?

[worn ember]

wat?

[void void]

there aren't many good BE options

themis is one of the better ones

[silver nexus]

Assuming we’re talking about bedrock, just use geyser

[worn ember]

i thought he meant Belgium lmao

[daring laurel]

in other platforms for minecraft development, are there other strategys other than bukkit’s event api for propogation of events that allows cancelling them?

[worn ember]

sponge has one but i'm not sure how that works

[waxen panther]

That’s such a vague question

Event buses are not a mc only thing

[daring laurel]

I understand that, but are there other solutions to events?

[void void]

I'm assuming we're talking about BE players as geyser players

[tired heath]

Yeah thanks, I check out Vulcan for now and think about Themis as BE option

[daring laurel]

other than an event bus, where you subscribe to it

[worn ember]

Observable collections, but i suppose those more or less act the same

[waxen panther]

you could go for a reactive design, its a little different to event based

dont think that'd work very well in mc but

[twin lagoon]

<@&748618676189528155>

[wide chasm]

!kick @sinful wharf Don't advertise

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Kicked ESHKERRITTO#9229 (Don't advertise) [1 total infraction] -- stefvanschie#7609.

[waxen panther]

best stef

[warm anchor]

that pfp is so typical

MC skin which appear to have brain missing

[rare tiger]

so long gay bowser

[magic river]

Is that more or less stereotypical than having an anime girl avatar?

[worn ember]

nothing is more stereotypical than having a weeb pfp

this is not how snow works but ok

its been saying that for 3 days and i havent seen a single snowflake

outside that is

[grave nymph]

hey, someone knows the plugin for rollbacking items?

[magic river]

Tomorrow is colder 😄

[worn ember]

what kind of items?

inventory items? Chest items?

is that °C?

[magic river]

Yeah

[worn ember]

why does that not say it lol

[magic river]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[worn ember]

i mean 99% of the world uses C but still

[grave nymph]

inventory items, a plugin that saves in the database who has what items and you can restore them to him

[magic river]

That is a really complicated problem that doesn't really have a sane generic solution in Minecraft

Assuming you also want to ensure that doing a rollback doesn't result in duplicate items or items being destroyed

[grave nymph]

I understand, I thought so

[worn ember]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/inventory-rollback-plus-1-8-1-18-x.85811/ could give this a try

[worthy geode]

Just disable chests and other containers

[grave nymph]

oo nice

[worn ember]

Disable Malfrador

[plucky sparrow]

shut it ded

shut it

[neat oyster]

nuuuub

[magic river]

The way you track every item so you can log movements of that particular item between inventories, the world, etc is to give each item a unique id

But doing that means they don't stack

If you just want to be able to see "Player A took Diamond Sword from chest" and roll that back (as in putting a sword back in there) I think CoreProtect does that kind of thing

But it won't take the sword from the player or know that they gave it to Player B and take it from them instead

Or know they put it in another chest and take it from there, etc

[grave nymph]

nope. coreprotect only block, at least I didn't discover such an option

[worn ember]

that plugin does it by tracking the inventory on certain events

[magic river]

It just restores a single inventory, items are not unique things so aren't tracked like that

[spare venture]

inventory rollback is more for if you die, it saves your inventory. it also saves inventory on login, logout, and world change

[magic river]

LogBlock could do containers, I thought for sure CoreProtect would too

[spare venture]

coreprotect does

[magic river]

But player inventories would probably be a different plugin, yeah

[worn ember]

just not player inventories

[spare venture]

if you rollback a chest 1 hour it’ll restore it back to what it looked like an hour ago

[worn ember]

you dont say

[spare venture]

some times you have to explain it

[grave nymph]

yes, i know it, but only chests

[magic river]

Just saying, this is going to cause your item economy to inflate

Although it's against the EULA to sell items anyway so it'd only be a virtual economy

[grave nymph]

[waxen panther]

based

[worthy geode]

Just sell currency as well

[worn ember]

sell hats

[magic river]

Well unless you have a server-run market that has fixed prices it'll buy things you won't increase the gold in circulation, inflate wasn't the right term

You'll have more ValuableItem in circulation which will drive the price of it down

Unless you can use that item to get more gold

[worn ember]

thank you for the economy crash course lol

[rare python]

heh heh heh https://gist.github.com/Peter-Crawley/98fa48f3ca7fbcb1f4ce439cd9564f5a

[magic river]

This is a Minecraft discord, you can't assume people understand these things 😛

[waxen panther]

ok?

[spare venture]

it’s not against the EULA to sell items

only if it gives a competitive advantage

[magic river]

If you're selling "NFT Dirt" that's true but who would buy that? 😛

[spare venture]

selling a diamond on a casual survival server is perfectly fine

[magic river]

Nope

I believe this was actually one of their examples

[crimson haven]

They changed that I think

[magic river]

It's not egregious enough to get you noticed, especially since the company doing the checking probably doesn't understand that nuance

[spare venture]

i’ve reviewed and discussed the CUG extensively. the approximate wording is you may sell anything as long as it does not grant a competitive advantage, and complies with their branding guidelines

nah they do

this has been the case for 3 years

[magic river]

So they changed their mind

[spare venture]

3 years ago, yeah

[magic river]

"competitive advantage" used to include the ability to "beat" whatever the goal of your server is faster

[golden gust]

has been that way for a while, issue is is their understanding of "competative advantage" was especially premature during the days

[spare venture]

“sell entitlements that affect gameplay provided that they do not adversely or negatively another player’s experience and provided they do not give a competitive gameplay advantage. A competitive gameplay advantage is something that, given identical skill levels, time investment, and circumstances, can cause one player or group to perform better than another.
Be aware that certain games or game modes can be designed as non-competitive (such as a player-versus-environment (PvE) game) and become competitive by adding gameplay elements such as a leaderboard.”

[magic river]

Even if that was just "I have all the items and a cool base"

[golden gust]

they've gotten a more "fair" understanding of what it means

[spare venture]

cant really go into specifics without going danger territory

[waxen panther]

@twin lagoon

[magic river]

Hmm, maybe they didn't change it and I just forgot about the leaderboard requirement

[spare venture]

why did you ping him

[waxen panther]

had to check something

carry on with your monkey nft discussion or whatever

[spare venture]

they only included that leaderboard thing to probably include PVE servers that have payouts based on winning a leaderboard

[golden gust]

Well, there was a bit of a talks a while back with them to clean up and make it more clear

The general feel hasn't changed, just, it's more clear now, and they have a better understanding of the environment

[spare venture]

i doubt they will, the more ambiguous it is the easier they can enforce

[magic river]

That more or less reads like how I understood it, although it requires an explicit leaderboard

[golden gust]

well, that's an example

[spare venture]

pretty much just having a baltop is fine, but rewarding people for being on the baltop is a competition

competing for a server designed prize

[golden gust]

ofc, there is some nuance in the fact that like, what do you deem as competitive and what do players deem as competitive

[spare venture]

that’s the way i interpret it

[magic river]

If you don't have an unlimited world you could argue giving items on a PvE server still gives a competitive advantage since those people can consume all the limited resources faster

[golden gust]

theres still many grey areas and ofc, I gotta be weary on how much I say 😄

[spare venture]

well i think they mean if the server is rewarding you for a competition

[crimson haven]

I would say a baltop is also competition (since its a leaderboard)

[spare venture]

if you really go into it, anything can be competitive

but that’s hopefully not what they mean

[magic river]

That used to be more blatant with the dragon being on a one-off

Now you still have it with stuff like elytra though

[spare venture]

yeah i don’t want to be sued

[magic river]

If I give you $200 and because of that I can get all the elytra on the map I got an advantage over everyone else due to money

[spare venture]

right but what do you win by getting all over the map

does the server have a prize for that

[worn ember]

more items

[magic river]

Bragging rights, trolling, and control over the economy

[spare venture]

from the way i’ve seen them enforcing it, they are talking about specifically server designed competitions

[magic river]

The goal of their rules is to ensure playing on a server isn't miserable for people who can't pay

[spare venture]

if the server has no real objective i.e a survival server for fun, there isn’t a whole lot of competition there

[warm anchor]

They’ve failed pretty badly I’d say but the worse network are usually running offline anyway so I doubt those server owner gives two shit about tos

[spare venture]

and mojang probably gives two shit about enforcing the EULA on them

[vernal moth]

https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-alpha-1

https://c.tenor.com/9VuG1d2QOOQAAAAM/oh-my-god-its-happening.gif

No c# yet, booooh

[worn ember]

booo

[magic river]

Huh, I wonder how they generate the SDF for the whole scene for GI

That's usually kind of expensive so the obvious answer would be to bake it but they say it works for dynamic actors too

Based on what I can find it's "just" a technique to improve distribution of a probe grid and then do "standard" GI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1ocYFrtsM4 looks more interesting but requires raytracing hardware

[pastel reef]

Assuming I pair my Intel Core Duo E7500 with a beefy gpu, how long can you go for with Minecraft?

[warm anchor]

Minecraft doesn’t use your gpu

[pastel reef]

Really??

[worn ember]

it does, but its mostly cpu

[pastel reef]

So It's cheaper to just use the integrated graphics of an i9?

[warm anchor]

Your cpu is also old enough to play Minecraft itself so don’t expect too much

[worn ember]

not sure that'll run really well

[warm anchor]

released on 2006

[magic river]

The GPU usage is the same when you first spawn in the world as when you're at 12000000x12000000 10 years later in the same world

More or less

[warm anchor]

Actually your cpu will be able to drink in 2 year

[worn ember]

when will you

[warm anchor]

[magic river]

The integrated GPU on a modern Intel chip will do alright with Minecraft, especially if you use Sodium

[warm anchor]

Forever 17 @worn ember

[worn ember]

[waxen panther]

Eternity is 28

[magic river]

If you're trying to decide what to upgrade first go with the CPU

[warm anchor]