Hey Debian
#general
hushed pasture
granite slate
Does anyone know something like DataGrip but free?
ashen cliff
DBeaver maybe?
No idea what DB support you need.
granite slate
I was searching a general one. I would like to only have one software to manage all dbs
worn ember
it is general?
granite slate
I think I will try DBeaver
worn ember
left swift
community funded
cerulean blade
what's a good server host for like a few people in a very local area (besides just using my own computer)
twin lagoon
define very local area
cerulean blade
a town and it's surroundings
i think just having it be in germany/europe would be good enough though
twin lagoon
i think just having it be in germany/europe would be good enough though
then get a hetzner server if you want to spend some money
or a shared host like bloomhost or dedicatedmc
cerulean blade
thx
worn ember
@twin lagoonyou should request some affiliate links 
twin lagoon
<@!215448923681062913>you should request some affiliate links <:KEKW:62824942225...
use code MICHAEL for 15% off your first month at dedicatedmc.io
void void
iirc he has a 20% off co🥷
twin lagoon
@umbral tiger 
worn ember
PErson: requests support
Me: maybe try this?
Person: *never replies again
Me: alright then, keep your secrets
left swift
best is when you find a support thread of the issue you have and the replies the OP says "thanks figured it out" and no other info
worn ember
lmao yeah
cerulean blade
PErson: requests support
Me: maybe try this?
Person: *never replies again
Me: al...
:)
queen phoenix
How does both Paper and Spigot get money?
ashen cliff
Paper is mostly donations.
queen phoenix
Is that enough to the amount of money they pay ?
queen phoenix
hmm
left swift
no
vernal moth
Worth noting that that money isn't a wage to use
worn ember
4k in the bank ez clap
vernal moth
We use it to pay our bills and have some future plans that require more money
left swift
like papermc strippers for papercon
vernal moth
But it's not used to buy beer for me for example, for that I got my personal GitHub sponsors and so do the others
left swift
a ball pit for papercon
worn ember
and extorting people with insurances /s
neat oyster
good idea
vernal moth
If minecon ever is a thing again, having a proper booth there would be so cool
Maybe share it with the sponge peeps cause they cool
neat oyster
LMAO
vernal moth
Imagine a panel, with a drunk mini and stinky cat 😂
rare python
someone coming up to the booth asking for an eta on next update
I'd do it just as a joke.
neat oyster
someone coming up to the booth asking for an eta on next update
I will do that jus for fun
left swift
cat cant be at a booth, he needs a cage
vernal moth
We will bring our golems
neat oyster
lmao we typed same thing
cerulean blade
a ball pit for papercon
sure hope nobody pees in it like last time someone set up a ballpit for a convention
neat oyster
pulls out netherite axe
left swift
pee pit
vernal moth
I still have memories of the guy who shat into a bag in the line for the Fortnite booth at gamescom 2019 😂
worn ember
if ya gotta go you gotta go
cerulean blade
guys papercon footage leaked??
left swift
he needed a gift for the devs
radiant oriole
Oh no
worn ember
poo bag for poo game amirite
cerulean blade
haha i get it its cause fortnite bad!1
vernal moth
For papercon we need paper merch first
left swift
can we have a poo bag and pee pit for papercon mini?
cerulean blade
For papercon we need paper merch first
sell the paper logo as an NFT
vernal moth
I would rather jump for a bridge
left swift
vernal moth
This is a crypto bullshit free community
rare python
Ew, NFTs are for idiots who fall for get rich quick schemes.
vernal moth
Pyradmid schemes are fuuuuun
worn ember
Infinite money trick: buy your own NFT for 20million, now your NFT is worth 20mill but you didnt lose any money, now sell it at 50K and it'll be a bargin 
left swift
all the people shilling those pyramid scheme beauty products are now invested in nft
cerulean blade
I think NFT prices are actually hyperinflated
rare python
I think NFT prices are actually hyperinflated
Ya think?
vernal moth
It's all fake and a scam and a waste of time and resources
cerulean blade
I think NFT prices are actually hyperinflated
like i think its a scheme where people buy and sell them to eachother to make it look like people are actually buying internet pictures for millions of dollars
left swift
yea invest in real capital like CSGO skins and knives
edgy palm
I was thinking of throwing a paper logo onto my gaming shirt too
my pfp 😏
cerulean blade
so that some fool actually buys an internet picture for like 100 dollars
vernal moth
40k persons own 80% of NFTs by value
rare python
It's not a sustainable market, NFTs have no tangible value, once people realise that, they are worth nothing.
stray oyster
It's all fake and a scam and a waste of time and resources
Plus there is a lot of copyright violation …. which will never become undone because blockchain
vernal moth
It's a realllyy small community
void void
For papercon we need paper merch first
paperchan body pillow
vernal moth
Plus there is a lot of copyright violation …. *which will never become undone be...
The images aren't on the Blockchain
That's the joke
cerulean blade
and all of the nft bad coping is just making them even more rich cause its free publicity
crimson haven
every penny that someone makes on nfts, some other person lost it lol
neat oyster
yea invest in real capital like CSGO skins and knives
vbuk
vernal moth
If opensea goes down you can't view your NFTs 😂
worn ember
well if they're stupid enough to spend money on it its on them lol
vernal moth
Cause all these stupid platforms don't even see the Blockchain for verification
stray oyster
I know mini but you remember the CSAM scandal with bitcoins blockchain?
I hate crypto currencies for that kind of reason
void void
~~paperchan body pillow~~
I know at least two people here would buy it 
left swift
the real capital is making a large donation to open collective for papermc so it shows up on main page with message "sub 2 pokimane"
vernal moth
I hate them first and foremost for the people
worn ember
damn some open collective orgs making bank
neat oyster
I know at least two people here would buy it <:pepela:915710830471970886>
make it 3 
cerulean blade
sell a DIY paper airplane as merch 
neat oyster
sell reverse origami
vernal moth
I wonder at what point I have to optimize the website because it got too large with all the images
stray oyster
I know at least two people here would buy it <:pepela:915710830471970886>
Count me in
rare python
PaperMC merch ez
left swift
nothing
rare python
i just searched "pack of paper" and picked the first one I saw
worn ember
ok enough relaxation, back to the matrix grind
crimson haven
Imagine the paper booth made out of paper O:
neat oyster
*i just searched "pack of paper" and picked the first one I saw*
why did "pack of paper" remind me of 5 paper planes in suit acting like thieves
rare python
¯_(ツ)_/¯
left swift
46.0433° N, 114.9533° W
left swift
papercon is sus
cerulean blade
https://www.google.com/maps/place/46%C2%B002'35.9%22N+114%C2%B057'11.9%22W
is that where they make bitch lasagna
neat oyster
I need some profile picture idea
left swift
bitch lake drains out into bitch creek
cerulean blade
I need some profile picture idea
zombatar
twin lagoon
paper general quality degrading rapidly as per usual
rare python
paper general quality degrading rapidly as per usual
Not sure why you are surprised.
left swift
michael connoisseur of papermc general and head of papermc quality protection bureau
neat oyster
decisions
worn ember
imagine having to relocate to higher ground in 5 years
neat oyster
michael connoisseur of papermc general and head of papermc quality protection bu...
that "was" me
untold copper
I want to be so rich that I determine the price of something by the number of commas it has
left swift
that "was" me
wrong
void void
@haughty bear i wanted to dm u but couldnt
fuck brexit
brexit doesnt mean brexit
\s \s \s \s \s (\s means sarcasm)
paper general moment
left swift
<@!178476954280787969> i wanted to dm u but couldnt
fuck brexit
brexit doesnt ...
@waxen panther thoughts
ashen cliff
Daily Paper General Moment.
foggy silo
engine (4)
void void
noah is copying my tag line
can't help it 😔
worn ember
can't help it 😔
paper general moment
left swift
brocc (paper brigadier general)
sick junco
Guys, is there a plugin in which the color of the nickname will change in the tab depending on the measurement?
limber knotBOT
"measurement"?
left swift
lol
sick junco
Of the world
limber knotBOT
that's even more confusing
sick junco
that's even more confusing
Dismension - end, world, nether
Changed color name in tab list
limber knotBOT
that makes more sense
sick junco
is there a plugin that will change the color of the nickname depending on th world?
ashen cliff
BungeeTabListPlus can do that.
Or, if you have a permissions based tablist, just use LP and filters/contexts.
warm anchor
@twin lagoon 
warm anchor
waxen panther
@lavish compass !
worn ember
Discord moment
true canyon
I have someone showing me video of being able to climb walls in a situation where a plugin denies block placement, because with high latency the client isn't told to fall fast enough before the next block is placed and the server just... doesn't care? How does that not trigger anti-flight stuff in the game if the client is spending multiple seconds hovering a dozen blocks up?
ashen cliff
That's like... a very old "feature".
golden gust
So, heres the fun one
Mojang has "fixed" it
but their fix for that basically involves hard resetting the client
it's also still affected by latency anyways, actually
true canyon
That's like... a very old "feature".
Never been something I'd have noticed ^_^
golden gust
but, if you perform a block change which the server says nope of, it resets the clients velocity, etc
true canyon
Should I just tell the person to grab an anti-cheat and hope that fixes it then? 😄
golden gust
the servers anti flight check is also a "has there been enough ticks where the client has said it's not on the ground"
basically, yea
the servers fly anti-cheat is practically client sided lol
ashen cliff
Never been something I'd have noticed ^_^
You never had to escape mini game spawns by jumping over fences that way? 
worn ember
Never had to deal with 2000ms
true canyon
You never had to escape mini game spawns by jumping over fences that way? <:kekw...
I only did some cleaning up mini-game code, never really played it myself, and wasn't covering anti-cheat because there were plugins handling it.
left swift
I have someone showing me video of being able to climb walls in a situation wher...
oh yea this one of the oldest tricks to get over walls or fences in protection zones lol
dont even have to be laggy
click fast
true canyon
I still sometimes get flashbacks from that minigame code. It was so clearly decompiled code that they didn't have source to because their last dev left on bad terms and they denied it so hard but the checks cleared (until they later ripped me off, shocking I know) 🤣
And, just to really hurt somebody:
Did I mention another of their plugins I was called in to fix was set up to query SQL for every access check (permissions, but not using bukkit permissions api) on its own newly made connection, and if SQL query/connection failed the perm check would default to true? And that included a custom command to grant the player op?
ashen cliff
Not as bad as us fixing a plugin, by "shading" the whole bukkit API one time.
40MB jar file.
twin lagoon
40mb? clearly doesn't have the kotlin stdlib
ashen cliff
Good thing we didn't have 
back in my days.
umbral tiger
<@!158577328874586112> <:pepelove:742679670301917237>
waxen panther
best tehlo
vernal moth
A friend recommended me to watch "in the heights" and I did NOT know what I signed up for but am down for it
neat oyster
i added sus to my pfp
vestal jasper
Even low latency it's easy to do
If you time it right you can just climb up any wall it's great
spare venture
neat oyster
what?
pastel reef
What cooler should I use for an Intel Core Duo E7500?
pastel reef
Stock cooler?
neat oyster
yes
pastel reef
What's that?
neat oyster
ye
twin lagoon
the better question is why are you looking for a cooler for that cpu
pastel reef
the better question is why are you looking for a cooler for that cpu
I used to play Minecraft every day for a month on a Computer with that cpu and it needed fans.
pastel reef
the better question is why are you looking for a cooler for that cpu
It needed them more than ever when I made it compatible with 1.18.1 with the help of Linux, that thing literally sounded like a plane that was taking off.
pastel reef
core 2 duos are like 5 - 4 dollar
Do you mean dollar?
neat oyster
Do you mean dollar?
yes
lavish compass
@waxen panther @twin lagoon
waxen panther
best cubnixmixinty
lavish compass
where'd m and n come from
untold meadow
cubzitty
untold meadow
bes t michael ! !!!!
warm anchor
@twin lagoon @lavish compass @waxen panther 
lavish compass
@warm anchor 
neat oyster
soul🍞
lavish compass
if there was a coincidental rewrite PR to papers main website, would someone accept it?
twin lagoon
@cosmic raft
that sounds like something you'd maybe want to discuss with someone beforehand
but i think kashike wants the site to be rewritten at somepoint anyways
cosmic raft
100% I do
cosmic raft
basically we want it to have the same type of look as https://forums.papermc.io/ does, and in modern non-hacky tech
lavish compass
ok Cubxity rewrite it it next.js and tailwind
since when did you become a nextjs fan
golden gust
I mean
twin lagoon
since when did you become a nextjs fan
mcc.live next js 
golden gust
we're currently in a low bar situation where you'd need to do something amazing to make our site worse
lavish compass
I only stand for 100% performance score on lighthouse desktop
void void
the site could definitely use a bit of work 😅
pale hinge
hi guys. do you think orebfuscator plugin can perform better than paper anti xray mode 2 on 1.18.1?
somber fog
pale hinge
the client is lagging on my server because of bigger chunk size on 1.18.1 and its a client side issue.
so this plugin can be worse for my server performance but reduce packet sizes maybe?
golden gust
papers anti-xray performs better
orebfuscator has a few extra features which can run at the side of papers
pale hinge
im sure with that but my issue not server-side
pale hinge
orebfuscator has a few extra features which can run at the side of papers
oh can i use them together?
golden gust
And, these tools generally both work the same for obfuscating the core world
don't mention
if you used the xray guide for paper, make sure that you actually read the thing
default guide adds air but also has a note on that one
pale hinge
thanks i will check that once again
i really missed mode 2 though...
i had no issues until 1.18
waxen panther
ok
magic river
Science based dragons?
tepid sail
how is papers anti x-ray working nowadays? good enough?:D
golden gust
it works well within the limitations of it that have existed for years and the limits of a game which sends everything
haughty bear
what is the technical term for handling how a vehicle collides with obstacles, like changing direction and handling damage and stuff?
worn ember
what is the technical term for handling how a vehicle collides with obstacles, l...
collision detection?
haughty bear
that's a bit vague I think, I'm trying to find info online on how to code a vehicles physics in terms of collisions and I keep getting road collision data
worn ember
well your question is also vague lol
why is this vehicle specific? should work for any object
check which part intersects with the object when it collides etc
haughty bear
feels like there would be more resources on if it was e.g. collisions for cars in a game
worn ember
well you gotta be specific with this stuff
golden gust
aabbs?
collision boxes?
I mean, you're not reall giving much to define a more specific set of areas
worn ember
"why me pyysics no werk" wont give you much useful results
golden gust
collisions work quite the same across games in the scheme of things
you have a shape and you detect if this other thing intersects with it
worn ember
If you ask me you dont know yourself what you're looking for
golden gust
I mean, things like changing direction is just physics
implementing aspects like observing the laws of energy/motion
worn ember
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/physics/vehicle-physics-pro-community-edition-153556 this looks cool
not sure how useful it is though
seems more for car tuning
golden gust
handing damage is naunced because there is no gold standing thing for that, often its just acting as like a deformities to your model at potental hardcoded points
or, you get into shit like beamng type level of physics where you simulate almost every aspect of the car including the body, but, generally you don't care to do that
softbody physics, I think is the term there
but, that gets fun
spare venture
updatedd mobaxterm and now it opens its shitty text editor by default now, with seemingly no option to change iot
so nice
magic river
TIL US airlines are worth negative dollars
American Airlines loses half a cent per person per mile to fly them
They all have frequent flyer programs worth $20b+ but the market cap of the companies is like $10b so the airline itself is worth -$10b
pale hinge
hi. a quick question: will removing entries from hidden-blocks on xray mode 2, increase the performance or not?
or reduce the packet size somehow
south matrix
pale hinge
sure, sorry
golden gust
daring owl
Is it true you dont need tcpshield/ddos mitigation on ovh
golden gust
false
daring owl
someone said tcpshield is just ovh anti ddos
golden gust
it's not
they use ovh's anti DDoS for some stuff but then have some application layer stuff
daring owl
is that the anti bot stuff
twin lagoon
someone said tcpshield is just ovh anti ddos
ovh's anti ddos + their own l7 proxy for minecraft
golden gust
guy I do stuff for has talked to TCPShield a good chunk a good time ago
where they've actively addressed stuff which can't really be dealt with cleanly on our side
they don't deal with anti bot
daring owl
Would you recommend tcp shield for a decent size server
warm anchor
I remember when the log4j thing was going on they did a MITM to prevent their offline server owners from getting hit 
some cursed and cool shit
twin lagoon
yes
golden gust
if you're getting traditional DoS attacks, OVH itself is generally okay to a degree
if you want actual protection which will work for mc and modern attacks, you pretty much need TCPShield
daring owl
kk
warm anchor
Plus TCPshield chan is cute 
foggy veldt
What’s her blood type and interests
warm anchor
You should sign up TCPshield and ask their support 
foggy veldt
I joined their discord but I don’t see anime girl anywhere
Also there is an announcement called “my statement” which looks like it involves drama but the link is dead
I got blue balled out of tea
twin lagoon
Also there is an announcement called “my statement” which looks like it involves...
there was some drama involving 1 - 2 employees starting a competitor
ended preeeeeeeeeeeeetty quickly though, nothing happened in the end
warm anchor
I joined their discord but I don’t see anime girl anywhere
It’s there for me.
warm anchor
twin lagoon
@static badge thoughts
static badge
warm anchor
static badge
warm anchor
Bruh momentos
grand pewter
It’s there for me.
is that a tcp-chan i see 
warm anchor
grand pewter
i dont even use them but thats hilarious
golden gust
That's the goal, really
grand pewter
hey, it's free advertising, right
golden gust
chan-ify all of the mc related discords possible
foggy veldt
Oh I see her now
warm anchor
Pretty much just kanban musume. It’s a really Japanese thing. They will make anything into anime girl as billboard girl
left swift
idk what's being discussed right now but
foggy veldt
I wanna ask my question but there’s no general and I don’t wanna clog their ticket system
left swift
golden gust
Pretty much just kanban musume. It’s a really Japanese thing. They will make any...
oh, oh! me next!
foggy veldt
<a:pokiwiggle:912570825733976104>
Stop promoting poki or you’ll get sued for defamation
grand pewter
someone should do it for paper
left swift
i'll sue u for defartation
warm anchor
@grand pewter pretty accurate if I’d say so myself
Don’t believe this is a thing in western culture aside from redlight dist
left swift
hey thats me but instead of a shop it's papermc and instead of a pretty girl i'm a hot, ripped, awesome, poggers, pogchamp, cool, handsome, epic male
dawn pond
spartan go brrr
warm anchor
No mama I died twice reading that
left swift
That is a thing in western culture but it's not a separate like job
just the cashier wears low cut shirts
or yoga pants
heard of hooters?
golden gust
Yes, I heard of a devision of it, called fe... wait, no, nvm
left swift
crystal lilyBOT
Community contributed configuration guide for Paper: https://eternity.community/index.php/paper-optimization/
dawn pond
destroys my mobs
golden gust
I mean, if you expect vanilla mob levels, don't tweak the settings for mobs?
otherwise, generally, learn how the mechanism works and try to tweak within it
dawn pond
yea but the only reason my server lags usually is due to mobs
Im developing a server for 1.19
golden gust
only guide I know of which properly understands mob spawning is eternitiy's
mob spawning is far from amazing and is generally broken af on servers
so, is always a fun game of tryna find the balance
dawn pond
yea although per player spawns should fix that for some reason
it fails
misrably
lol
golden gust
per player works fine but exposes some other issues with mob spawning, etc
especially on craftbukkit based stuff
dawn pond
yea
dawn pond
Player dum
facts
they had 2000 total villagers
loaded
on the server
this guy had 5 villager breeders in his base
warm anchor
“Technical players” who can’t adept to the change in server view distance”
paper broke my farm
left swift
what version
warm anchor
You really only need 10-15 if you are good at it. It just sucks that it will be slower volume
golden gust
ah, yes, technical players
left swift
golden gust
aka, the , i sawded it in utewb clan
left swift
i like this
dawn pond
“Technical players” who can’t adept to the change in server view distance”
> pap...
My fav quote from players is "FIX UR SHITT SERVER"
and im over here reading 6 diffferent guides
LOL
foggy veldt
Why don’t you just fix your shit server instead of reading guides
foggy veldt
Spartan is the anti cheat right
waxen panther
😬
dawn pond
its so sexy
golden gust
zips his lips before the spartan dev goes crazy over something he says
foggy veldt
Oh so cmi anti cheat edition
dawn pond
yea i didnt know what it was tbh my friend uses it
google latest 2022 article said its the best
so i bought and had 0 life for 2 days
waxen panther
dawn pond
trying to figure out config
foggy veldt
Just tell your players not to cheat
void void
but it has chat control
why does an anticheat have chat control
dawn pond
Just tell your players not to cheat
tell god to make me fly
golden gust
it's a jack of all trades
peak ginkgo
Visual griefing
dawn pond
why does an anticheat have chat control
idk but i like it its chat control allows like full phrases
void void
in case they cheat in the chat noah
how did I not think of that!
dawn pond
you can ban "fuck you"
left swift
all servers gain 50% more protection when you ban brocc from it
dawn pond
without banning the you
peak ginkgo
why does an anticheat have chat control
Reminder that GriefPrevention ships spam control too lol
void void
all servers gain 50% more protection when you ban brocc from it
only 50%?
warm anchor
Chat filter is fun since Minecraft supports a lot more than just A-Z
foggy veldt
I wanna host a Minecraft server sounds fun
peak ginkgo
Exhausting
dawn pond
I wanna host a Minecraft server sounds fun
hosting it is pain developing it
is sexy
its just fun to see something work
warm anchor
Hosting it is easy. Harder part is build a community
left swift
I develop my minecraft servers! i coded changes in my essentialsX config to turn op colors from red to blue
void void
I develop my minecraft servers! i coded changes in my essentialsX config to turn...
"Looking for developers"
warm anchor
You get paid swapping jar???
dawn pond
Im at a point where i cna deal with ddos even if ip egst leaked
left swift
dawn pond
menaing if you ping it
it would show a random ip
like instead of joining 5.973.xxx.xxx
etc
foggy veldt
Packet teleportation
left swift
lol
dawn pond
they join play.Servername.net
twin lagoon
@waxen panther best destiny player ??
twin lagoon
shut up csgo player
left swift
dawn pond
I found this really cool plugin developed by the spartan comapny
apperently when it senses a ddos attack up to 20 bots per sec
it closes entry gateways
twin lagoon
my guy if ddos attacks were preventable by a minecraft plugin we wouldn't have billion dollar companies specialized in ddos mitigation
twin lagoon
and terabit-scale ddos attacks on minecraft servers
left swift
ddos attack with bot accounts?
dawn pond
yea the plugin is paid
waxen panther
<@!264203519806930944> best destiny player ??
i am GRINDING right now
left swift
is this a troll
dawn pond
ddos is just sending packets
waxen panther
<@!264203519806930944> best destiny player ??
rate the new fit
twin lagoon
epic
left swift
broc stop doing that
dawn pond
mainly sending false users into ur system cauing traffic
waxen panther
void void
mainly sending false users into ur system cauing traffic
which is exactly why you can't really prevent it with a plugin?
warm anchor
rate the new fit
Is this NFT available for purchase??
left swift
this is a new kind of papermc general
dawn pond
which is exactly why you can't really prevent it with a plugin?
the plugin turns off entry gateways
left swift
classic
waxen panther
Is this NFT available for purchase??
its not a hexagon
dawn pond
only players with 2+min can play
warm anchor
Oh shit
dawn pond
cause their path will be whitelisted
I really think its a bit scuffed havent got it yet
foggy veldt
rate the new fit
Warframe looks different
dawn pond
but I do have a ddos problem
twin lagoon
if you have a ddos problem, invest your money into a service like tcpshield
not a plugin
foggy veldt
Why does your server get ddosed
dawn pond
having extra stuff never heart anyone
dawn pond
Why does your server get ddosed
long stroy u sure u wanna hear it?
left swift
michael take notes
foggy veldt
Nah nvm
left swift
tell us the story we're reading
dawn pond
hmmm ok
So I joined this server after i shut down my own this guy called amy was on it
long story short he was being an annoying jackass
so we had a vote and we banned him
then I decide I wanna start up my community again
keep in my mind he was fighting with the other owner for banning him
so when i start the community goes well I merge with the other server
and by then this amy guy has ban evaded on vpns alts
hacks
and keeps griefing
he found my new server and I was like here we go again
so he said if i unabnned him he will just play
and im like ehh sure thats fine
unabnned him
foggy veldt
inb4 rate limit for sending a new message for every sentence
twin lagoon
dawn pond
That was my first mistake
dawn pond
So then he decides to invite his friends, Then when they join people that hate amy decide to kill his friends on join while I was asleep!
warm anchor
Y’all got more drama than daytime TV 
dawn pond
They apparently didn't like that and the only logical solution they found was to ddos the guy that was asleep! And since then they kept tracking me down and I started protection!
Used discord srv linking as reuired
And asked my bot developer to create a discord bot that bans acc below 30 days to avoid alts
basically i stopped him
got a community to 960 discord members
cunning raft
dawn pond
then decided I wanted to learn plugin dev
so I sold the server and now im starting a new server in 1.19
waxen panther
dawn pond
<a:DonoWall:797699032406818817>
someones asked for the story
golden gust
hey jroy
Did you know that in minecraft
When a creeper blows up
it will drop a lingering effect potion from its active entity effects
south matrix
plis helap??
south matrix
no no i use offline mode for dungie
dawn pond
oh
south matrix
so it is ok
dawn pond
then idk
south matrix
sory not dungie i use waferfeal
dawn pond
can u show us any errors
south matrix
i threw the server in the garbag already sorry
dawn pond
lol
lament patio
I thought I was in the 1.8 support server for a sec
cunning raft
south matrix
i try to build paper?? it no work :(
dawn pond
how old is ur pc
void void
you need to install yatopia first 👍
twin lagoon
have you tried turning it off and on again
golden gust
gecko is literally everything wrong with the world, prove me wrong
warm anchor
you need to install yatopia first 👍
I will ban you in yatopia but discord no longer exist 
dawn pond
im sexy
void void
I will ban you in yatopia but discord no longer exist <:PMA:585698251630706689>
you were a yatopia mod?
golden gust
no-ping
left swift
sponsor is trolling
dawn pond
I am?
left swift
nah ur just like 11 years old
left swift
how long u had discord
left swift
dawn pond
waxen panther
@ electronic cat
spare venture
esel
rancid void
rancid void
waxen panther
#gifs-and-memes
silver nexus
Bro i manually breathe everytime I put on a mask
at least you wear them
silver nexus
yea its the same here
spare venture
gradle
languid karma
why cant you just add the jar to the build path manually
as a dependency?
cuz i remember hearing somewhere that you could add it manually still
languid karma
o ok
zealous spear
is gradle better?
the problem I have with maven is that sometimes I cant export my project
golden gust
- the jars on the site are magical bootstraps, not the server jar
- with 1.18, the server jar contains just the server, no api, etc
nor is the maven info in that jar for it to find the api, etc
given that you can't even build against the patched jar fully anymore due to method clashes, it makes 0 sense to generate that info, etc
spare venture
ew disney plus going to $80/yr now
golden gust
disney
ah, yea
"We'll make the food smaller and charge more, our customers are fat enough anyways" 😄
spare venture
so hbo max $16/mo, netflix $16-20/mo, disney plus $6.67/mo, hulu $13/mo, and others that i’m not thinking of
golden gust
cutting the cable be cheaper, yea
warm anchor
Amazon prime comes with that yesh(?)
spare venture
netflix is a terrible value for its price in my opinion
warm anchor
My entire family share one account so it’s been ok
spare venture
amazon prime video is kinda annoying because their selection sucks and the rest you have to rent
yeah same, so that itself is already way better than cable
golden gust
netflix had a good film on it here and there, but, I can't justify buying it ever
spare venture
yup, i only use it because my parents have it
golden gust
and, after what they did to death note 🔪
golden gust
prime is nice because prime features, and it has the good shows here and there
spare venture
they have some good series but nothing worth keeping a constant subscription
$20/mo is a lot
i mostly stick to hbo and disney
golden gust
Never really got into dr who
Like, first time I was watching it was with my sperm donor around the time when it was kinda like, dying the first time
or, maybe it was the repeats from before they started it up again, god knows
I recall being a young kiddo then
jade plume
! mira mi estado
spare venture
at jroy
void void
who is him?
neat oyster
who is him?
Eddy Burback
brittle tinsel
south matrix
neat oyster
neat oyster
Hey sexy people anyone has a name Idea for a server
start with mine and then add some random words to the back
i did that
minefree minequest minegym etc..
twin lagoon
use github actions it'll be fun they said
glass crag
"maybe this will work"
ornate spindle
I ended up giving up on actions with 1.18 https://i.yive.dev/QQW0wW9s600kn2UM.png
twin lagoon
ornate spindle
twin lagoon
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we're back to step 1
ornate spindle
gg, at least it worked once
twin lagoon
gg, at least it worked once
took 14 attempts but it works flawlessly now
ornate spindle
ayy nice, I probably should try and get mine working again
worn ember
took 14 attempts but it works flawlessly now
Now im curious on the commit history
rain solstice
Hello there, I've one little question. Which CPU (clock speed, maybe some product?) and how much RAM would you suggest for 25 players, ~20 plugins, 10 worlds+? It should be a setup for a building server 😅 . Thanks for helping me!
dawn pond
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we're back to step 1
simple just dont use github
dawn pond
why do people even use github
crimson haven
Hello there, I've one little question. Which CPU (clock speed, maybe some produc...
hard to say. Depends on what the players are doing.
native wolf
Nah GitLab is shit bro
rain solstice
hard to say. Depends on what the players are doing.
constructing things in large worlds 😅
viral hornet
twin lagoon
🥺
void void
bold wigeon
stream time 😮
supple jay
someone can help me pls?
supple jay
#paper-help pls
rain solstice
hard to say. Depends on what the players are doing.
constructing things in large worlds
We planed nothing more. No PvP, no modpacks and so on...
Only standard plugins like FAWE, Luckperms, Essentials, ...
supple jay
how to fix that?
crimson haven
constructing things in large worlds
We planed nothing more. No PvP, no modpacks...
Well I have a ryzen 3600 and I hit the limit already at 30 players. But it's survival. They have farms and all that shit. But the server utilizes max 25% of it
waxen panther
who r u ?
rain solstice
Well I have a ryzen 3600 and I hit the limit already at 30 players. But it's sur...
I've the same CPU in my computer 😂
Hm and how much RAM need your server?
mossy vessel
!ban 101711613228244992 Cheap troll
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned Kaizo#5656 (Cheap troll) [1 total infraction] -- NotMyFault#3732.
twin lagoon
rolled
waxen panther
fr
twin lagoon
on god
waxen panther
on g
crimson haven
I've the same CPU in my computer 😂
Hm and how much RAM need your server?
Well I allocated 12gb to it but I think it could also go with 6. But I have enough so I gave it 12
rain solstice
Well I allocated 12gb to it but I think it could also go with 6. But I have enou...
👌 Thanks for the information.
tropic flame
be Bulgaria
select your entry for Eurovision song contest
your singer is a wanted criminal in Spain
probably will have to select other entry
nimble kettle
Spy goat
meager tusk
<@!589898090174218243> bro!
Most talented Bulgarian.
ashen cliff
Least Wanted Bulgarian.
solemn crescent
Anyone aware of any plugin which can provide haste2 power in a pickaxe? (permanently)
spare venture
custom enchants plugin typically do that
magic river
Surely the way you picked the Eurovision winner automatically picked a #2 to take their place
worn ember
mm yes, thank you maxima
pastel pivot
I mean, now at least you know these numbers don't have a common divisor. 😅
quartz vapor
anyone know how to get 1.18.1 on lunar client? My normal MC launcher is greyed out and i can't play lol
warm anchor
ask Lunar support? I think you are on the wrong discord lol
pastel pivot
When setting (private non-static) final fields via reflection: Is it really necessary to modify the Field#modifiers field? I always thought that's only required if the variable to change is static, but then I saw this question on SO: https://stackoverflow.com/q/47983064/3882565
golden gust
Basically, last I knew, yes
because there is a check for final somewhere else even with reflection
removing the final flag iirc can help with some jit related stuff where replacing a final field won't work for various cases (but, is still not fool proof, etc)
pastel pivot
So it could also work without it? Because I've never run into issues without it so far, but it could fail in certain cases? (Yeah, I'm aware about the problems with constants and potential compiler optimations.)
golden gust
I've seen cases where it's been happy without
I've seen cases where its only happy with
pastel pivot
Hmm, I'll do some tests. 🤔
Edit: Oh I misread your message.
golden gust
you don't need to remove the final mark, but, there are afaik some cases where removing that can prevent JIT from screwing you over from inlining
pastel pivot
Thanks. 👍
worn ember
reflection is always fun
shy shuttle
Wrong channel, sorry
lavish compass
@twin lagoon 
twin lagoon
@lavish compass
lavish compass
frank otter
"Qubes OS: A reasonably secure operating system"
claims to be (one of) the most secure
how secure is everything else
golden gust
I mean, it runs everything in isolation
so, day to day? 🤷♂️
theoretically, much good
twin lagoon
qubes os always seemed interesting
worn ember
i have someone complaining about rtp using 12gb of ram when players join leave but i literally have nothing in my code thats tied to join/leaves lol
twin lagoon
it's just a hypervisor turned into a privacy OS
lavish compass
surely if ed uses it, it must be reasonably secure
pastel reef
If I put a 1995 graphics card into my pc, will it replace or add on to the on board graphics of my Intel Core Duo E7500?
oblique current
its ok for a manager ? im new in py
https://pastebin.com/D0kaDjqc
i can update the server jar before i start the server everytime
lament patio
Auto updating is a recipe for trouble
As far as code goes, look into using a loop to simplify the printing of stop/restart times
magic river
RIP Souls games online
magic river
Yeah, Fromsoft took down the servers
spare venture
glad they're taking it seriously now
magic river
Was happening in every version so probably would have been a problem in Elden Ring too, seems like they were reusing the same code which makes sense
storm sleet
ubuntu or debian which one?
magic river
storm sleet
why
untold meadow
If I put a 1995 graphics card into my pc, will it replace or add on to the on bo...
@twin lagoon please assist this poor man
twin lagoon
If I put a 1995 graphics card into my pc, will it replace or add on to the on bo...
add-on
untold meadow
thank you Michael
storm sleet
you need both stable and performance
magic river
I'm an Ubuntu Member and former Ubuntu Developer/MOTU so... biased
storm sleet
hmm
magic river
Closed source stuff is more likely to support Ubuntu, if that matters
PPAs exist for basically everything
And Ubuntu is an easy way to get a fairly up-to-date but not rolling/unstable Debian
untold meadow
basically, if you have to ask, use Ubuntu
worn ember
if you have to ask dont use linux 
twin lagoon
I'm an Ubuntu Member and former Ubuntu Developer/MOTU so... biased
when are they getting rid of snaps
magic river
I have snapd pinned at -1 (uninstallable)
twin lagoon
magic river
Means I can't have chromium but I didn't want it anyway
magic river
twin lagoon
i just hold it back after uninstalling
magic river
Some day I'll switch to Fedora Silverblue but that feels like it'll take some time to adjust
I thought I was going to do so on my last vacation but...
untold meadow
got rid of snap as soon as Spotify released a Debian package
magic river
flatpak
untold meadow
love flatpak
magic river
I only have a couple things installed via flatpak
void void
Hello linux people
magic river
Ubuntu's goal seems to be to eventually have most/all of the distro done via snap
That's their alternative to Fedora Silverblue and the OSTree tech behind it
TIL flatpak actually uses ostree too, but not in the normal way
It uses it to dedup files that are in multiple images
foggy veldt
I try to avoid flatpak snap and the likes packages when I can. They have a lot of random issues like not being detected by discord or other programs
thorny crest
Does Waterfall have a seperate logo or is it all the same?
worn crest
Does Waterfall have a seperate logo or is it all the same?
Nah only a simple Minecraft waterfall 😅 no professional like papermc
thorny crest
Haha okay thank you 🙂
magic river
At some point these sports betting sites (in the US) stopped pretending they were fantasy football leagues and just became open gambling
Like, they used to say "one day fantasy leagues" that was basically just you betting on a game but wrapped up in pretend fantasy football
I thought online gambling was still illegal in the US
spare venture
it’s becoming more legal
there’s a lot of money behind it
pretty sure Ohio recently made it legal
15 years ago there weren’t even casinos in ohio
magic river
So the law directly banning sports gambling was ruled unconstitutional in 2018
I guess that law getting tossed makes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlawful_Internet_Gambling_Enforcement_Act_of_2006 somewhat toothless
spare venture
i really don’t like that gambling is becoming more and more common in everything
magic river
I remember when the 2006 law happened, that's when all the online casinos went away
spare venture
it’s been prevalent in most video games for a decade with loot boxes, it’s everywhere in sports, casinos are everywhere, people bet on everything
magic river
Telling them they were breaking the law and occasionally throwing someone in jail didn't stop them but threatening Visa and Mastercard unless they stopped doing business with them sure did
Ah, but the 2006 law had a carve out for fantasy football which is why they used to be advertised like that
It was meant to let a website run a betting pool for a group of friends but it got morphed into generic sports gambling
spare venture
the only people who can push for that change are the ones who make money from it
so… that’s probably not going to happen unfortunately
cunning raft
neat oyster
pov seagull
warm anchor
the only people who can push for that change are the ones who make money from it
I am sure Mojang actually hire a team and blacklist all illegal lootbox server will also do it
But yeah let’s leave to server owner
radiant oriole
I’ll stop selling crates when there’s a law that forces me to stop selling crates
stoic raft
Hi guys, I have a doubt. Nowadays is there any machine that can handle 150 players on a survival server in the newest versions and in a single instance without problems?
magic river
Sure, just ban mob farms (including villagers)
languid karma
i can tell you from experience that when me and my friend made a villager breeder factory
TPS would drop to like 6
when we loaded it in
with 2 players
now TBF i did upgrade hardware, but villagers just kill TPS sometimes
vestal jasper
not a fan of villagers in servers
they changed trades just to make them much more abusable
gg
on top of infinite trades players can now infinitely trade for dirt cheap :D
void void
so why does my computer warn me that the paer file or sum can hurt my computer .... ???
magic river
It's not signed so Windows and macOS give you that message
Not by anything they care about anyway but I don't think it's signed at all
void void
What?
upbeat falconBOT
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warm anchor
do you mean the egde warning you about .jar file is harmful? 
magic river
I opened a jar once and it messed things up so bad I lost my job
lavish compass
I opened a jar once and my hand got stuck in it
magic river
(that jar was Minecraft)
magic river
More like 5 but yeah
lavish compass
relatable
void void
uhmmm it doesn't tell me to download java do i still download it
lavish compass
Are you going to run a server on your desktop or
void void
video contains some interesting prototype models of the warden, very interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd7cVNeb0Uk
void void
Are you going to run a server on your desktop or
I found another way to run it <333333
lavish compass
ok?
twin lagoon
@lavish compass
full fjord
If a armorstand is set at Mark, Will it dissapear when you get further away from them?
neat oyster
I remade a dead plugin POG
limber knotBOT
Which one?
neat oyster
Which one?
vote restart
marble lark
all jar files are harmful according to browsers
for real lmao
sometimes actual executables are given the all clear but a jar file? nah it's sure to be fine
void void
Could someone ( I would if I could) make a plugin in which red stone requires power sources require energy like solar, kinetic(water/wind) or fossil. So like red stone blocks and torches need to be powered / charged by the energy sources
Where can I open an SMP server?
I want the cheapest and best host.
I want to get as much as performance as possible, while it being cheap and secure
vernal moth
Cheapest and best contradict each other
hushed pasture
and Secure too
you Probably would get Hacked with a Very Cheap Host, Because their Security would also be Very Cheap
vernal moth
that sounds like fearmongering
do we actually know about hosts being successfully attacked like that?
hushed pasture
well, they can just get Your ip if they enter a Unsecure Panel
imagine it's http
i've seen Much of those
neat oyster
even if they r cheap they will be experienced lmao
worn ember
@hushed pasture ur full of shit and clearly have no clue what you're talking about so just don't
hushed pasture
not Necesarily
and even if they are Expendive they can be not Experienced in Security
Expensive*
hushed pasture
<@431882101269331969> ur full of shit and clearly have no clue what you're talki...
what
i was Just trying to Help
How Toxic
hushed pasture
You did not, don't worry
it's Just that Dude
you made me Explain Better, thanks
I Just got Roasted by a Shitposter of the age of my Dad
tall flame
Is revivenode good? Been looking for a hosting with sigapore
hushed pasture
Seems Good seeing their Page, but i don't know if i can Help in this, it has been a Long Time since i've Used Hostings
It is 1$ per Gb, right?
does not Seem Bad
it has an i7-6700K with DDR4 and DDoS Protection
neat oyster
pebble host
hushed pasture
That's Cool, i've used it once
neat oyster
pebble host
also same price
hushed pasture
True
tall flame
Sadly pebble doesnt have singapore
hushed pasture
Sad Moment
golden gust
$1 a GB is not a good price point
neat oyster
Sadly pebble doesnt have singapore
night nodes also has similar pricing but havnt used that before
golden gust
that generally implies that they're loading nodes a good chunk of the way to make a profit
neat oyster
oh
hushed pasture
that generally implies that they're loading nodes a good chunk of the way to mak...
or maybe they Just want to Help People giving Better Prices! :)
quasi valley
Probably not, no
void void
you can't really turn a decent profit with such prices
pebble's low end plans are especially bad
hushed pasture
Probably not, no
Yeah, they usually go for the Money, not the "i want to Help People" but it's Nice to Imagine that they do it for the People
quasi valley
No matter what you do, you can't run a hosting business without at least breaking even lol
neat oyster
im going stick with a vps
ashen cliff
No matter what you do, you can't run a hosting business without at least breakin...
Oracle moment.
hushed pasture
Oracle has that much Money that they do not Care
ashen cliff
Bro.
worn ember
It's a marketing stunt
golden gust
well, maybe if you weren't a nigerian princess
void void
their anti-fraud/fake acc checks are super strict
my friend couldn't register anymore either after messing up on their first time attempting to register
ashen cliff
Can't even use my UK™️ Visa for it.
void void
Oh did you never even get through the initial credit card check? I was more talking about the "we'll get back to you after reviewing your sign up info" part after registering
neat oyster
ye
lavish compass
<@!290921387655430144> what are you thoughts on ktor
very sick
that's what i would use if i were to write http services in kotlin
neat oyster
i coudnt go past that it kept saying cannot register
lavish compass
it's actually fun to work with
neat oyster
it took like 3 dollors then refunded
twin lagoon
BEST cubxity ???
tall flame
im going stick with a vps
How much u payinng for vps
tall flame
What hosting
neat oyster
time4vps
lavish compass
BEST michael ?!?
tall flame
Isnt vps the same as shared hosting
vernal moth
big fan of netcup, 6 DEDICATED cores of a epcy 7702 and 32gb ram for 27 euro https://www.netcup.eu/vserver/
vernal moth
Isnt vps the same as shared hosting
no, since many VPS providers give you better guarantees than oversold shared hosting
plus you got more control
neat oyster
big fan of netcup, 6 DEDICATED cores of a epcy 7702 and 32gb ram for 27 euro htt...
sheeeesh
i might consider swithcing much better price and good cpu
tall flame
big fan of netcup, 6 DEDICATED cores of a epcy 7702 and 32gb ram for 27 euro htt...
No singapore?
vernal moth
no, its a german host, lol
void void
you could look at OVH's singapore offerings
tall flame
Too expensive for me TT
tall flame
30$ for 8gb
hushed pasture
my friend couldn't register anymore either after messing up on their first time ...
I used a Virtual Card and it Rejected it
Also the Page is Super Buggy
I Couldn't Fill the Form Sometimes
golden gust
many places reject virtual cards given that they're often use by scammers, etc
Like, hosting is an environment prime time for abuses which can impact your entire network
jagged temple
Hello
void void
especially if you're offering a very lucrative trial that needs card to activate