telling me to run fsck without options manually
#general
worn ember
how do you even get your OS in that state lol
crystal compass
apparently that happens when it detects file system errors
to protect from further damage
¯_(ツ)_/¯
either ill have fixable filesystem errors or the harddrive is
left swift
rekt
ashen cliff
It's way more fun when the NVMe PCIe controller is dying and causing CPU lockups. 
crystal compass
wtf man, trying to run fsck and says my nvme1n1 is in use even though its not mounted
stiff wadi
try using live gparted or something
silver nexus
it's 0 degrees here which is unusual for texas this early in the year
worn ember
make a snow angel
crystal compass
fuck the snow
worn ember
i havent seen any snow yet 
crystal compass
its -32 celsius here rn without wind chill
worn ember
sounds like a russia moment
crystal compass
more like prairies canada
left swift
same thing
crystal compass
probably
jagged widget
anyone looked into using oracle always free tier for hosting a server? you can get 24gb of ram, 4 cores and 200gb storage
worn ember
people keep getting fucked over by oracle and getting them shut down for no reason
jagged widget
really?
jagged widget
im currently self-hosting a server for my friends and ive been messing around with it and im considering changing it over to there
worn ember
seems like a weird thing to hand out free servers
golden gust
they kill your server after 60 days and you gotta reprovision it
it's marketing
they get the new generation raised upon their platform
crystal compass
bruh is there a way to check what tf is using my disk
jagged widget
@void void how long have you been using it?
crystal compass
im in rescue mode and my disk isnt mounted and and fsck is telling me its in use
ffs
worn ember
great marketing if you try to find a reason to cancel your service the moment you turn a stone lmao
golden gust
that generation then goes for startups, "oh, so, we're plannin to AWS because X, Y, Z", "Oh, well, am familiar with oracle cloud, and it does all that stuff, cheaper"
void void
<@456226577798135808> how long have you been using it?
four/five months
worn ember
Can we send a cease and desist to Oracle?
jagged widget
oh yeah no doubt it does the trick that banks do to give kids like a million % apy
jagged widget
they kill your server after 60 days and you gotta reprovision it
will that mean if i dont do offsite backups ill lose all of the server files?
worn ember
i pay 3euro for my server and have had it for like 2 years now 
half hawk
they kill your server after 60 days and you gotta reprovision it
I KNEW IT
golden gust
That's literally in writing
void void
never had to reprovision it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
worn ember
nono free means free with no strings attached!!
golden gust
and, yea, if you don't have backups you'll lose the data
This is the corporate world
worn ember
Free* != Free 
golden gust
They're not offering that service out of the kindness of their hearts
it's free as in beer
worn ember
i dont get free beer? Where do i sign up
golden gust
What you do is become a party trick guy, but, most sports there are in shots
worn ember
lol
jagged widget
i mean, it does have like 10tb of bandwidth for free, with like 1000 mbps (i speedtest'd it) could just regularily backup the world & plugin folder to google drive or something incase that does happen, or in @void void 's case you wouldn't have to bother
worn ember
i dont go out often so i usually just set a round for my friends
void void
i mean, it does have like 10tb of bandwidth for free, with like 1000 mbps (i spe...
I still take regular backups because I'm fully aware they can yeet me off of their free tier for whatever reason they want
worn ember
so they have reason to keep asking me
jagged widget
being in australia, most peoples internet is like 10mbps so i just laughed when i saw the free tier had uncapped 1000mbps
warm anchor
it's actually 30 days zcat but they allow you 30 extra grace period
that's how they get you. Making you think you are safe
intentional by design
worn ember
being in australia, most peoples internet is like 10mbps so i just laughed when ...
dw, its only double on mainland
warm anchor
fast internet
half hawk
at least 26 Mb/s is acceptable... doesn't australia have 999ms latency to everywhere?
worn ember
tbh i can get like 3MB/s when downloading at full speed
jagged widget
at least 26 Mb/s is acceptable... doesn't australia have 999ms latency to everyw...
yeah even to australian mc servers, getting anything under like 200ms is unheard of
jagged widget
tbh i can get like 3MB/s when downloading at full speed
on a good day where no one else is using the internet i can just push 3MB/s
warm anchor
doesnt help that your country is 90% middle of fuck where
jagged widget
but that is like only on steam downloads
worn ember
dont you have like some spider that can transfer data at light speed?
jagged widget
steam downloads are the goat
bro i love how everyone thinks australia is only outback australia like in the city/suburban areas its legit the same as anywhere else, everyone i know will still freak out about spiders/snakes etc.
worn ember
yeah but 95% of Australia is outback
jagged widget
and like 95% of people in australia live on the east coast
worn ember
i only have spiders the size of my hand, but non that will eat me alive if i'm not looking
jagged widget
mhm
worn ember
when they harvest the corn we get a shit load of spiders in our house the size of hands lol
always fun waking up with one on your wall
warm anchor
wtf
jagged widget
anyone know how to auth an oracle cloud instance with a password instead of a key file
jagged widget
i switch between pc's alot and using a pass is much more convenient
waxen panther
It’s not hard to copy your key file over
jagged widget
much rather just whack a pass into bitwarden and be done with it
warm anchor
have your key shared in your microsoft drive
waxen panther
I mean you could store your key in bitwarden
warm anchor
^ that too
waxen panther
nothing stopping you
jagged widget
I mean you could store your key in bitwarden
h o w
waxen panther
c o p y t h e k e y i n t o i t
jagged widget
b u t i t s a f i l e ?
waxen panther
files contain things 🙂
jagged widget
lmao u mean just save the plaintext in the key as a note
omg just opened it in notepad
ok imma actually do that now lmfao
left swift
granite flax
i switch between pc's alot and using a pass is much more convenient
have two keys then
jagged widget
lmao u mean just save the plaintext in the key as a note
more than two pc's :/ imma just see how ^ goes for now
granite flax
to be fair key based authentication isn’t that much more “secure” than a really strong password anyway
jagged widget
key based is alot better for stuff like keyloggers, its more the fact that its a file makes it more secure iirc*
warm anchor
I mean at the very minimum you cannot be keylogged via password
merry talon
you're supposed to use a passphrase on top of it as well
granite flax
key based is alot better for stuff like keyloggers, its more the fact that its a...
well if your machine has been compromised then you can assume your ssh key is compromised as well
merry talon
hey I haven't seen eternity shilling in a while, they still offering that?
warm anchor
yeah
jagged widget
will protect against script kiddies
merry talon
jagged widget
hey I haven't seen eternity shilling in a while, they still offering that?
what r u on about
left swift
I stopped coz people come to me when they didnt read fine print
Oracle support
warm anchor
still have my instance though 
since May
crystal compass
wait, is it not letting me fsck because of the raid ?
golden gust
if you're using raid you'd need to fsck on the block dev which raid exposes
crystal compass
wdym by blockdev
golden gust
the block device
crystal compass
also cant mount the partition in rescue mode mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'
golden gust
because that's not how raid works
that's the raid partition
i.e. magical
you need to get mdadm or whatever you're using to assemble that into a block device which exposes the actual partition
limber knotBOT
mount your raid like you did before again and then check on the partition the raid creates
crystal compass
fuck I wish I could better understand this shit
okay so I have to mount the raid first?
i see a lot of shit on google about running mdadm commands however I am weary of just copying down commands somebody wrote without knowing much about handling this raid shit
midnight kite
Hey all. Im not sure about is this is a right channel to ask, but do somebody know a good anti-cheat plugin for vanilla server which will not interfere with normal play? I tried few but all of them are triggering without a real reasons D:
limber knotBOT
I mean technically you just need to start it the same way as you normally did when you setup your raid first
if you fear that you destroy data then take a full disk backup first I guess
crystal compass
I didn't setup the raid, ovh did
limber knotBOT
oh
crystal compass
yeah its my first time having to use fsck and shit basically
limber knotBOT
well... that's what you get for running stuff you don't understand I guess, time to learn how raid works (I suggest using a local machine to play with it)
hearty spear
(me looking at my 15 servers I use as furniture)
left swift
I mean just reinstall the operating system at that point and have it reset up your vps if you got it from ovh
limber knotBOT
I mean I personally had good success with just running random commands from the internet but it was never data that I couldn't afford loosing (backups ftw :D)
golden gust
otherwise, google, theres probs many tuts around it, etc
crystal compass
well, my mc servers are backed up
nothing else is really important on there
however id like to avoid copying 300gb of data if possible
😂
left swift
unlucky
crystal compass
so this is what I have going apparently ```
md2 : active raid1 nvme0n1p2[0] nvme1n1p2[1]
499054528 blocks [2/2] [UU]
bitmap: 0/4 pages [0KB], 65536KB chunk
this means I already have the raid setup no?
golden gust
yes
limber knotBOT
looks like it
crystal compass
so that is what I need to mount or scan with fsck in that case
golden gust
yes
crystal compass
ty
/ contains a file system with errors, check forced.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found. Fix<y>?
``` running nowappreciate the help yall
I feel like that was too fast for 300gb
its done alr
golden gust
there are some flags for a more indepth scan iirc
worn ember
when you live in alabama
golden gust
when your family tree is a family star
worn ember
when your family tree is a family star
when your family does recursion
left swift
ded family tree is more like a family bucket
worn ember
ded family tree is more like a family bucket
Paper
frank otter
what was the joke about a family cactus
blissful geyser
Nice to know the fine print of Oracle's "always-free" instances, anyway it's still a good way for getting started with the basics of cloud services
I use one of their instances to host a Discord bot and a Bungee proxy (just so skids can't get my house IP easily), but there are programs that just won't work properly on Ampere instances
Like Chromium, just refuses to run, even on a pod/docker
And for some reason I couldn't get Waterfall to be seen outside of the VCN, but with Bungee I had no issues
marble lark
that's the raid partition
that shit gave me a headache when i tried setting it up
golden gust
btrfs go brr
hearty spear
I prefer raid cards over a software raid usually for this reason
Once they are set up the OS doesn't even know other than a driver for the raid card
ashen cliff
Just wait till your hardware raid nukes the config.
magic river
I wouldn't trust the "hardware" RAID on a consumer mobo
But if you have a proper PCIe card for it (that probably cost more than your mobo) that's obviously better
Although ZFS does their own RAID modes that hardware doesn't support
iirc LTT uses hardware RAID 5 for three groups of drives then using ZFS RAID to join those 3 together for their NAS but that only makes sense if you have like 20 drives
ashen cliff
Hardware raid on consumer hardware is just software raid.
tropic flame
computers 🤝 SWAT
raids
worn ember
Raid shadow legends
ashen cliff
Another one to block.
magic river
Yeah iirc they just use SMM to hijack the CPU to do their own special software RAID that isn't compatible with anything else
ancient bolt
Hardware raid on consumer hardware is just software raid.
hardware raid is also largely useless
ashen cliff
JBOD life.
tired heath
Can somebody recommend a good anti tab complete plugin, maybe running on velocity, for plugins what do not get the command registration done right?
ancient bolt
calculating raid these days requires almost no CPU usage
ancient bolt
I wouldn't trust the "hardware" RAID on a consumer mobo
consumer "hardware" RAID burned me when I was younger and more naive. Ended up losing a lot of data
stuck lava
meh, most of raid solutions are good until they stop working
magic river
I dunno, you can max out an EPYC doing parity calculations and have your write speeds be CPU limited
stuck lava
I imagine getting data from synology raid might be interesting (without buying another synology for example)
or tryint o get data off old collapsed freenas raid
magic river
Of course, that requires having 40 enterprise SSDs in your array but it's possible 😄
stuck lava
and so on
ashen cliff
I dunno, you can max out an EPYC doing parity calculations and have your write s...
Depends on what you count as maxed out.
Just doing IO operations or actual calculations?
magic river
According to LTT it was doing parity calculations
iirc they had to get a switch with a 100Gbps port to support the read/write speeds they had out of this thing though
It's not a realistic scenario for any of us, just saying you can still max out a CPU with software RAID
red timber
Like Chromium, just refuses to run, even on a pod/docker
huh what
how are you running it lol
blissful geyser
how are you running it lol
Any binary of Chromium just gives this message (this one is from the Oracle Linux repo)
void void
oracle linux?????
blissful geyser
Rebranded Centos 8*
And in docker i'm not sure what happens but any image I've tried, just crashes and don't really give a error message or doesn't output anything at all
twin lagoon
Centos
blissful geyser
Anything wrong with it?
blissful geyser
Anyway, I just given up, searching I found a tool named wkhtmltoimage that does exactly what I needed chromium for, but I quickly figured out it is severely outdated (and buggy), so I don't really know what to use now
red timber
wkhtmltoimage is yikes
i made https://github.com/eteu-technologies/pdfgen some time ago
buut it requires chromium
i don't have problems on nixos at least
stiff wadi
Any binary of Chromium just gives this message (this one is from the Oracle Linu...
You need a binary compiled for arm, and you probably need an xorg server
You can look into x11 forwarding but the performance will suck
red timber
error would be diff if they didn't use arm binary
blissful geyser
You need a binary compiled for arm, and you probably need an xorg server
Xorg is installed and the chromium binary is an aarch64 one
red timber
chromium can run fine headless, don't need to have xorg installed for that
red timber
anyway i have a docker image published for pdfgen project, mind giving it a go?
blissful geyser
anyway i have a docker image published for pdfgen project, mind giving it a go?
Sure, I have nothing to lose, but make sure you have a image for aarch64/arm64
red timber
lmao right
now i remember
i had a bizarre error on gh actions which i couldn't be arsed to solve
blissful geyser
get an strace
mprotect(0x4200001000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument)
--- SIGTRAP {si_signo=SIGTRAP, si_code=TRAP_BRKPT, si_pid=-169628392, si_uid=43691} ---```
This was the last line before hitting the breakpointNo idea what it is or means tho
harsh orchid
…to look into it more to learn why. (#nutrition-science description)
What is this sentence?
stiff wadi
That sentence doesn't seem to make sense
I assume that the description is asserting that fat is not bad, and you should do your own research to find out why if you want
worn ember
haha he said the f word
tropic flame
fiddlesticks? what now
stiff wadi
haha he said the f word
daring gulch
Wow DotA has changed a lot. I don't even recognize the first two items
worn ember
first one is an upgraded urn, and the second is meteor hammer, channeled aoe stun
daring gulch
Ah yea those didn't exist when I played
stiff wadi
https://tenor.com/view/your-mother-great-argument-however-megamind-your-mom-yo-m...
okay i don't want to post more memes here lol
ashen cliff
I really dislike opening that AP up again.
Also love the fact that the instructions for flashing are incorrect.
prime pawn
It'd be nice if there were like a "mini game mode" where it optimises the jar for minigames instead of regular Minecraft =.=
Just an idea xD
golden gust
a bleh one at that
stuff like that is a cool idea until you remember people wanna be able to configure much stuff stupidly indepth
you end up with a patch which is unmaintainbly long used by like 1% tops of the community
prime pawn
What I mean by that is having it default off but if it gets turned on, it overrides a bunch of settings and changes them based on the optimization with a description of what it changes xD so it wouldn't really limit anything since you can always turn it off
warm anchor
<@!177150983258767360> what maniac builds dagon on riki <:kek:594643029994897408...
Riki?
worn ember
yes
warm anchor
XD
golden gust
What I mean by that is having it default off but if it gets turned on, it overri...
I mean, that makes very little sense
if you mean just a paper.yml file, I mean, basically, go for it
There is nothing stopping people creating custom config files and sharing them
We generally rather people don't at least not without stupid amounts of info saying all that they've changed, but, they are just text files
warm anchor
If reading is proven to be such a difficulty, you should probably resort to being a player instead of server owner.
plucky sparrow
no
prime pawn
I guess it wouldn't take too long to learn what everything does x)
I'm just focused on a super duper cool concept rn
unkempt drift
https://twitter.com/stats_feed/status/1479480872319524867?s=21
How did I miss the 5,037,000,000,000th day since the Big Bang?
I feel like that would’ve been a story somewhere
plucky sparrow
didn't know there were multiple big bangs
unkempt drift
Doesn’t need to be multiple, just the most recent was then 🙂
plucky sparrow
then it should be "Days since the Big Bang"
unkempt drift
But there could be more in the future.
viral mulch
i made <https://github.com/eteu-technologies/pdfgen> some time ago
I know what I'm using this for 
jagged widget
anyone know an easy way to backup a server to google drive from cli? (linux)
golden gust
rdiff supports it iirc
jagged widget
Why particularly would you want to use google drive?
easy to access, + my server is only 1.4gb so easily fits in a free acc
golden gust
I mighta got the wrong one 😄
limber knotBOT
I just forgot the name https://rclone.org/ - its the best thing sliced bread
jagged widget
dang that looks spicy
jagged widget
k imma go look at that
limber knotBOT
Think rsync but supports everyting
*everything
You can even mount it as a FUSE filesystem :D
golden gust
FUSE all the things!
limber knotBOT
I use a script to take nightly XML backups of my text messages, download them with rsync, and use git's delta-encoding to compress them.
jagged widget
thats some gigachad work right rthere
viscid wedge
using fuse google drive as swap
jagged widget
using fuse google drive as swap
like, swapspace, for ram, off system?
limber knotBOT
Theoretically possible
golden gust
oh, it is
limber knotBOT
I was looking for the best way to transfer files between my Mac and my Linux, and it turns out NTFS is the best way to format the file system
void void
unlimited free ram!!!
golden gust
but it's so beautiful
viscid wedge
I've done it, just to see if it's possible. It is, but there is absolutely no utility in doing so.
limber knotBOT
soup6020: Did you get a call from google?
golden gust
other beautiful things include dd'ing the HDD windows is running from as its going brrr
limber knotBOT
Also it turns out a NTFS formated HDDD is the best way to transfer files between Mac and Linux if you need a shared hard drive
viscid wedge
Techcable: I didn't get one for that, just for abusing the search API a little
limber knotBOT
laughs
golden gust
I had to use exfat 😦
limber knotBOT
I don't use windows, but ntfs-3g works flawlessly on Linux and Mac
jagged widget
not even dual boot windows?
limber knotBOT
No
jagged widget
how u play da gemes?
golden gust
I dual boot, very rarely but when I game sometimes I wanna just watch something while steam patches or windows does stuff
golden gust
having the drive where I store all my media crap and such on exfat works a treat
I kinda wish proton would come to macOS
jagged widget
i used to use linux on my old laptop and it was a godsend, went from laggy and literally 10 minute minecraft start times to like 1 minutes on linux
golden gust
thought you meant start times in general
jagged widget
oh, it was bad
golden gust
I was like, wait, who turns off their laptop? o.O
jagged widget
i had a batch file on my desktop to force close unresponsive apps
because thing would randomly stop responding
void void
peak windows
golden gust
Oh god, I had a fun machine like a decade ago
limber knotBOT
Arch Linux is absolutely amazing, and if you want a nice install step and easy config there's always endeavouros
worn ember
i used to ahve a batch file on my desktop to restart explorer cuz it would break occasionally
golden gust
if you know this memonic, same bro, same
limber knotBOT
My first laptop I installed Arch directly dual-booted, but I almost never used Linux
void void
Arch Linux is absolutely amazing, and if you want a nice install step and easy c...
arch linux is 👌
I've used a bunch of distros and arch is the best I've found
limber knotBOT
Arch is amazing
void void
I use it on literally everything 😂
jagged widget
manjaro was my favourite
golden gust
Reboot, Even, If, System, Utterly, Broken
red timber
i discovered nixos about 1.5 years ago
limber knotBOT
Software is minimal diffs from upstream. never breaks
limber knotBOT
@jagged widget: Consider using endeavouros
void void
manjaro was my favourite
manjaro shudders
red timber
don't want to use other distros anymore
limber knotBOT
No
plucky sparrow
Thanks for your contribution ded, leave the server now.
golden gust
limber knotBOT
If you want a pre-configured Arch use EndeavourOS
jagged widget
hey, it was my first distro, i needed something with less of a learning curve than arch lmfao
void void
i discovered nixos about 1.5 years ago
yea, nixos seems super neat. I've been meaning to mess around with it
jagged widget
aur is pretty based
limber knotBOT
worn ember
Thanks for your contribution ded, leave the server now.
dont need to be toxic cuz you got owned in roblox dude
limber knotBOT
It's the successor to Antegros
golden gust
if you want preconfigured arch use ubuntu
limber knotBOT
Much better than manjaro because manjaro makes like a ton of changes
plucky sparrow
I’m not naomi ded
viscid wedge
arch provides an installer now
limber knotBOT
then breaks all the Arch beauty
worn ember
i wish you were, so you'd be banned too
void void
arch provides an installer now
a terminal one
plucky sparrow
Yeah arch-install was super useful
limber knotBOT
soup6020: Yeah, still not is good as Endeavour
void void
same
jagged widget
i just use windows now becuse i have a decent pc and its not worth it to me to reboot for every 2nd game i play
limber knotBOT
And its kind of klunky
void void
My first attempt of the arch installer went bad
it instantly broke my machine. then I just did it the manual way like usual
limber knotBOT
EndeavourOS is basically a nice installer and a pre-configured windowing system
golden gust
for me some package or something stupid was missing
limber knotBOT
YEah
void void
for me, i was trying encryption. which just failed with grub
golden gust
I already have an arch VM setup for stuff, I just wanted to toy with it to see how good it went
limber knotBOT
I used Antegros (the predecessor to EndeavourOS) to install my second Arch machine and it worked pretty much perfectly.
void void
they later fixed that like a week later
plucky sparrow
EndeavourOS looks too new for me tbh
golden gust
I also toyed with nix a few weeks ago, that was pretty nice
void void
I also toyed with nix a few weeks ago, that was pretty nice
aren't they the ones developing maui shell?
golden gust
not sure I'd wanna full time it, but, overall it seemed kinda cute
limber knotBOT
They don't change the packages
viscid wedge
Nix made me hate using my computer
limber knotBOT
Oh we're talking about Nix
Yeah I don't know, I'm kind of skeptical. Seems magic
I mean it's at least better than Homebrew
golden gust
I install it along side brew on my laptop
limber knotBOT
hmm
jagged widget
also im having troubles when i run my server's start.sh as a background job, it seems to get somewhat through the starting and then freezes until i bring it to the foreground
golden gust
ran some nix-info command inside of nix-shell and the packages folder like, tripled in size...
limber knotBOT
Only sad things about moving from Arch -> Mac M1 is homebrew and that an x86 Arch VM is very slow :(
golden gust
Works entirely differently to nix-os too at least from what I can see
limber knotBOT
It's 100-1000x overhead to run x86 Arch VM inside an Apple M1 :(
Rosetta is like 20%
void void
well one thing to look forward to is linux support on the mac. tons of progress is being made in that aspect
and there's always arch linux arm 🤷
limber knotBOT
That project seems mostly dead :(
Also the official Arch people are like "nooooo"
Not allowed on the wiki
golden gust
long term for me is really just gonna be to have a proxmox host or something on a box in the corner
limber knotBOT
And documentation is garbage
limber knotBOT
What is a proxmox host ?
golden gust
proxmox hypervisor
void void
Also the official Arch people are like "nooooo"
yea, I run an arch linux arm repo. I tried adding it to the "unofficial repositories list" on the wiki. and they just reverted my change lol
jagged widget
does anyone know how i can properly run an mc server in the background
(arm linux)
void void
limber knotBOT
Define background?
jagged widget
(not rpi)
golden gust
that way I can just VM everything I care about and remote in with nomachine or whatever the cool thing is
limber knotBOT
Alpine looks like a nice distro for ARM
golden gust
usually you just run the server in tmux or screen
limber knotBOT
yes
golden gust
people also runs stuff on systemd but then you lose the console
jagged widget
- so i can close putty and have the server still run
- so i can do other stuff without opening a new putty window
jagged widget
Define background?
.
limber knotBOT
There are some nice server managers too
void void
people also runs stuff on systemd but then you lose the console
What I personally do is that I have a systemd service that starts a script that is run inside of a screen
limber knotBOT
Hey man I'm a mathematician
void void
then I can just do screen -r mcserver
limber knotBOT
You gotta define everything
plucky sparrow
Use screen or tmux
limber knotBOT
gsand wrote a nice wrapper mark2
viscid wedge
Alpine is fantastic
limber knotBOT
Oh good :)
golden gust
❤️
limber knotBOT
:)
soup6020: I haven't used it very much, but I need a Linux VM for my Mac M1
Probably need like 3
x86 Arch, ARM Arch and Alpine ARM
viscid wedge
long term for me is really just gonna be to have a proxmox host or something on ...
this is basically what I ended up doing, I have multiple GPUs in one tower, my VMs all have PCI passthrough
limber knotBOT
wow
viscid wedge
But I don't play games anymore
golden gust
Q is generally "does it need to be on the same device", like, if you're toying around a lot it's generally kinda worth considering just getting a box to shove in the corner and using it as a VM host
jagged widget
i tried using screen, but when i close the terminal window it still closes the tasks
golden gust
I mean
that would scream that you either did it wrong, or, screen bork
both of them as believable as the other
jagged widget
oh wait... the task is still running but i can no longer see the screen that is running the server
or see it in the ctrl+a " list
golden gust
screen -ls
jagged widget
there are two - one says attached and the other says detached
golden gust
well, thats your issue
jagged widget
how do i "attach" it?
golden gust
you started a new screen session instead of connecting to the old one
screen -r, iirc
jagged widget
how do i connect to it?
golden gust
close that screen you just opened (exit/ ctrl-d)
limber knotBOT
yes?
tropic flame
i just wanted to say hi, i remember you used to be around
especially with a certain fork 👀
jagged widget
huh what fork?
jagged widget
taco fork lmfao
golden gust
jagged widget
oh please no
void void
Anyone got a good server host?
plucky sparrow
BloomHost, DedicatedMC and I think extravm is also recommended
viscid wedge
proxmox is pretty decent
viscid wedge
my fucking god I forgot how bad effexor gutpunches you when you forget to take it for a few days
spare venture
@left swift poki got banned????
left swift
idk
spare venture
she was banned because she was streaming avatar the last airbender
spare venture
that’s wild
isn’t she like one of the least problematic streamers too
like she isn’t a hot tub streamer
jade flax
dmca trumps hot tub streams
left swift
big dumpy
jagged widget
is oracle cloud a static ip or dynamic?
warm anchor
static
tropic flame
pokimane got pokibanned for pokibreaking the pokirules
warm anchor
I mean she really think DMCA doesnt apply to her or something watching that on twitch
golden gust
waxen panther
if i read the word metaverse one more time in the next 24 hours im going to go clincally insane
cunning raft
@waxen panther metaverse
jagged widget
lmao i just wget'd paper jar in 0.1 seconds... 250mbps is reaaaly nice to use
waxen panther
<@!264203519806930944> metaverse
1 blocked message
golden gust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDOI0cq6GZM - somebody needs to do this, but, like, meta-verse! meta-verse!
golden gust
svg files aren't supported I think
(I think sulu was basically looking into it or something, xenforo go brr, or something)
wraith trail
yeah the built in image proxy does not support a variety of formats, I've made an addon to support using an alternative media proxy but that has not been implemented yet
Ideally, yes
magic river
unkempt drift
pokimane got pokibanned for pokibreaking the pokirules
.
magic river
Twitter
She has been doing naruto streams too and just deleting the VODs and any clips people try to make, apparently
viscid wedge
if i read the word metaverse one more time in the next 24 hours im going to go c...
zuck lynch mob when
(not serious, I do not condone violence)
worn ember
pokimane more like pokiowned
unkempt drift
🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
void void
pokigone
magic river
Apparently she was even distorting the show to try to make it harder to detect
And was streaming it for hours, not just half an episode or something, almost watched the whole thing 😛
lapis shale
WARNING:
I run an "Online" server.
We just had a user named "bead456" join and use a hacked client "I am not sure the name"
And was able to spawn items/shulkers/fly thousands of blocks instantly.
Please all of you ban him before he joins you
magic river
warm anchor
is this chain mail in 2022
magic river
Meanwhile half of Twitch is watching Master Chef and Death Note
grand pewter
is this chain mail in 2022
its missing the "if you don't post this 3 times in other servers he will join your server"
warm anchor
grand pewter
did you update paper
lapis shale
Looking at console, he didnt seem to know any commands, or type any valid commands on our server. Entered the Nether, used /wild and was flying around.
I do not have any sketchy plugins, and only about 40 of them total. Mostly mainstream. I am not sure where to start looking.
No "Creative" plugins or inventory management plugins of the sorts
waxen panther
def something on your server lol
warm anchor
Just because a plugin is named mainstream_name.jar
golden gust
stuff like that is either misconfigured bungee or something installed on the server gave them perms to do stuff
warm anchor
doesnt mean it is actually it
but then again, we dont know what you did and can only go by what you tell us
I sure hope your server is offline rn
lapis shale
Everything is from spigot with verified downloads and possitive feedback 😦
We do not use Bungie
Is it not possible there is a new hacked client going around?
golden gust
Everything is server validated more or less
Like, you can't just magically get a shulker without something creating that shulker, only way to be in creative mode is if something explictly puts you into creative mode
lapis shale
Alright, from your guys experience, do any of these plugins stick out which I should consider looking into?
(Everything is kept up to date with configs and settings)
lapis shale
😦
spare venture
use squaremapp
golden gust
dynmap is fine
it's just loaded with features and such
squaremap is dummer but lighter as a result
spare venture
no it is actually bad
lapis shale
So it looks like, the very first thing he did after logging in- was find the nearest Shulker box, and open it. From there, he obtained items
spare venture
if you want 20% of your tick being thrown away
golden gust
I mean
the default config is bad
but, past that, literally had 0 issues with it
.dynmap
limber knotBOT
Optimize (Reduce) dynmaps load on your server: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/1-15-server-performance-help.431154/#post-3776848
spare venture
i've tweaked my config a lot and it had results but squaremap is significantly better anyway
lapis shale
(I am currently doing /dynmap fullrender with 20 players online with 20TPS)
Edited configs of course, but its not a shit show if done correctly
grand pewter
both are fine tbh but if you are super worried about lag, tbh, dont even run a map
spare venture
tru
golden gust
had servers with 100 players and dynmap has caused 0 issues
also, pretti resource packs :3
serene bolt
I've always done a full rendered map, but then manually went through and updated it like once a month instead of using live updating
grand pewter
but cat, if you run 0 plugins then there's no lag
spare venture
i've had it cause many problems so ymmv, all anecdotal..
golden gust
big thing is that the thing has too many stupid triggers by default (like, redstone, really...), but, dynmap + nginx = ❤️
spare venture
i made it not update at all and still saw worse performance than squaremap
grand pewter
lol does it really
spare venture
yeah by default shit like pistons will make it update
grand pewter
ah. yes. piston head. must redraw chunk
grand pewter
next thing you tell me is that grass growing makes it rerender
serene bolt
i made it not update at all and still saw worse performance than squaremap
did you spark that at all? i'd be curious to see what's actually causing the problem, if all the live updating stuff is disabled I have no idea what could be the issue lol
spare venture
yeah it was showing up in spark. no i dont remember what parts were nor do i have it
i stuck with dynmap for a really long time despite paul and co. telling me it was shit until i realized
serene bolt
I use squaremap now though too, but not because I had performance issues, just because I only needed a flat map and squaremaps storage size is like a percentage of the massive dynmap storage requirements
spare venture
i prefer the squaremap art style anyway
serene bolt
I do too
grand pewter
yet still people ask for mysql with it
i dont understand why a map that takes only a few mb needs sql
golden gust
last I saw the thing looked too kinda monotone for me
spare venture
some hosts give mysql dbs with unlimited* space
golden gust
To be fair, depending on what you're hosting on, mysql makes a lot of sense
Like, that file tree is a bitch
if you're not hosting on an OS with a sane filesystem, that thing huuuurts
spare venture
if you're limited to 30gb, it's nice to not have a ton of space taken up by it
also yeah if you can only use sftp, good luck ever moving it lol
spare venture
yep
also if you use some dum backup plugin it might try to backup the plugins folder
golden gust
I always moved the dynmap folder over to the spinning rust
grand pewter
well i mean you would probably want to tar/zip it and not transfer individual files
spare venture
there's a lot of reasons why people on shared hosts might want mysql
grand pewter
but also yeah moving maps is a waste
golden gust
for the amount of pissing around it's just easier to full render it again
inb4 shared host runs out of inodes
grand pewter
easy way to do that, just create an infinite amount of 0KB files
they don't take any space
jk
void void
dawn pond
whats a good cheap anti ddos
golden gust
TCPShield, basically
if you want app level protection, pretty much
if you want super cheap deals with ye' ol' booters nobody really uses much, OVH vps for with a proxy
left swift
turning the router off works, pretty cheap
dawn pond
turning the router off works, pretty cheap
cant do that on hetzner hostings
and that gives us a reputation that server crashes alot
viscid wedge
systemctl poweroff
shutdown command is legacy and for compatibility only according to poettering
dawn pond
is the 25 dollar plan good?
void void
huh?
dawn pond
the tcp shield
void void
never used it. I pay $5 a month for my anti-ddos and that covers all of my services i host
warm anchor
void void
🤷
warm anchor
Talk to their sale
They also have a free tier
Most small server is fine on it
Plus tcp chan is cute 
Did you read it
It tells you exactly what it means
viscid wedge
didn't read the rules that's for sure
void void
lmao
feral vector
didn't read the rules that's for sure
also wdym
warm anchor
viscid wedge
This ain't the channel you want chief
void void
or that
feral vector
well uh idk where to ask
viscid wedge
offline mode
why is this always your default assumption
void void
(the logs said he was using offline mode uuids...)
viscid wedge
oh I missed that, my mistake
void void
xd
feral vector
(the logs said he was using offline mode uuids...)
ye ik but that wasnt the error lel
void void
what?
jagged widget
Error: DBUS_ERROR: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
i get this when trying to set firewalld settings ._.
viscid wedge
Error: DBUS_ERROR: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: ...
Start your dbus
jagged widget
how do i do that
viscid wedge
systemctl --user restart dbus.service
jagged widget
mmk
dang it, after 99999999 years of searching 20 year old forum posts, all i needed was to restart :/
viscid wedge
that error indicates that dbus is not running, or has failed somehow. restarting the service should be enough, but I'm not sure exactly how it's running in the first place on your system. some distros do it differently than others.
viscid wedge
dang it, after 99999999 years of searching 20 year old forum posts, all i needed...
the trick to searching for errors is understanding exactly what terminology to use already, which is not exactly efficient
warm anchor
when in doubt, restart
serene bolt
works perfectly fine for me
void void
is papermc 1.18.1 safe?
please reply so that i can get the notification
warm anchor
is papermc 1.18.1 safe?
please reply so that i can get the notification
it's pretty safe.
void void
it's pretty safe.
alr
south matrix
no it will hack your computer
serene bolt
it's stable, you can read more about it in #announcements
pastel reef
Why is the world border traversable?
void void
it is not
pastel reef
But why for me? I'm using the latest version of paper.
hearty spear
In spectator?
pastel reef
Survival
unkempt drift
That’s a client thing
hearty spear
Set from game or the config?
unkempt drift
Worldborder collision is handled by the client
pastel reef
I'm on fabric but my friend is on vanilla and it happens for them as well.
unkempt drift
Worldborder collision is handled by the client
.
Happens on a vanilla server with a vanilla client on some sides of the world border sometimes
I’m sure there’s an open mc issue about it
timber venture
hello there is a problem with portal linking from the nether to the over world and i appear under the location near the place where the portal is
with a fresh portal
void void
damn, it's gods birthday today
void void
damn, it's gods birthday today
Also Demon's birthday
vernal moth
why would that be a MC dev?
void void
I misread their bio and their avatar looks very similar to the ones used by some mojang employees
vernal moth
I see
there arent too many mc devs to be able to know them all ^^
can somebody try running docker pull oryd/kratos:latest please?
void void
works for me
vernal moth
yeah I think my demon is broken
median wing
Does anyone here experiencing this error while using aikar startup flags? Screen Terminating
median wing
After running a few tries, seems like removing -Xms24G and -Xmx24G from startup flags stop the screen terminating error but the problem is the server is now allocating 6 gb of ram instead of 24 gb
void void
how much ram does the server have in total?
median wing
24 gb exactly
twin lagoon
stop trying to launch the java process in your screen
start a screen manually, then run a start script of some sort
void void
You need to leave room for JVM overhead and the os, decrease the Xms and Xmx by a few gigs
vernal moth
you can't give the heap 24gb if you whole OS only has 24, lol
I wouldn't go over 20 in that situation
also worth saying that you prolly don't need that much ram for one server anyways
median wing
Try allocating 20 gb still didn't work
java -Xms20G -Xmx20G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=50 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=16M -XX:G1ReservePercent=15 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=20 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs/ -Daikars.new.flags=true
-jar server.jar nogui
Did I put something wrong with the flag?
vernal moth
oh hi there phoenix616 https://i.imgur.com/2cJ2QO6.png
void void
I wonder if I should move my server to the US, I currently host it in the EU but a fair amount of people complain that the server is too laggy for them. I do feel like those people probs just have shit internet though and would still have a shit connection even if it was hosted in the US
Seen as though most people on my server have < 150 ping
proud lance
I wonder if I should move my server to the US, I currently host it in the EU but...
Figure out where your players are based out of
Then host there
void void
If you have all US players then yeah
Well it won't be all US but historically I have seen the most players from the US
void void
But your EU people will probably complain
Yeah this is the thing
Someplayers might have a better connection
worn crest
but some a worse
void void
exactly
left swift
just move ur players all into one city
void void
yes
vernal moth
hypixel solves it by deploying network tech to minimize latency
void void
Yeah its quite impressive
plucky sparrow
Hypixel tries to solve it?
proud lance
Hypixel uses cloudflare spectrum doesn't it?
plucky sparrow
I thought the most they did was adapt hit register so those with worse ping could stand a chance
proud lance
Idk if that's true or not, I don't go there
void void
I thought the most they did was adapt hit register so those with worse ping coul...
Nah they will do a lot of fancy stuff behind the scenes to reduce ping as martin says.
plucky sparrow
I see
left swift
ya I can confirm I am hypixel
worn ember
oh hi there phoenix616 https://i.imgur.com/2cJ2QO6.png
lol how they getting from spigot to papermc? banners?
vernal moth
Proxis forum signature has a ton of impressions ^^
worn ember
inb4 banned by choco
left swift
bump
wide chasm
I believe advertising in signatures is fine or smth
limber knotBOT
that feels like some wrong data, I would be very surprised if over a thousand users clicked on the footer link lmao
oh wait, that's link cound on individual pages? if so then that's probably due do it indexing every forum thread page lmao
*count
ashen cliff
What rank do you have?
left swift
69
quick pasture
left swift
what's so funny about my rank?
worn ember
nomana
left swift
darkeye
soft tusk
Any good custom recipes plugin
worn ember
lol so mc can make pickles give light but not the glowsquid ok then
warm anchor
Have you seem frog light @worn ember
warm anchor
New light source block from frog
worn ember
wut
worn ember
how you gonna add so many light blocks when your light engine is literally trash lol
warm anchor
So if you let a frog eat a magma mob, it puke out this frog light thingy
worn ember
dont frogs like eat any mob?
warm anchor
I think that is a joke? Or I hope 
worn ember
how am i going to give players the true LSD experience now
ashen cliff
What can't you mod?
worn ember
cuz i dont get paid to
worn ember
pretty much
worn ember
Daily reminder that blue fire is blue cuz its cold
left swift
someone should warm it up
worn ember
hug it
limber knotBOT
if anyone is as annoyed as me that chrome doesn't have a dedicated "Open Link in specific window" option in the right click menu: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/open-in-specific-window/nkgphogbgnehgdfkpiknbdnjaamlbgmo
worn ember
No
turbid turret
anyone know how to control the direction of a flowering azalea?
quick obsidian
yoo personal achievement
vernal moth
you left bed?
quick obsidian
got round to making it so you can make your own enchants in config in ecoenchants
well that too
worn ember
potent panther
left swift
no where
wraith trail
https://GitHub.com/papermc/paper/issues/new for paper issues
worn ember
nomana != notable
plucky sparrow
nomana != notable
Can you stop being rude? The 🌟 mods 🌠 might bark at you for breaking the Paper 3.0 rules.
void void
dont be rude! Paper 3.0 remember
which memo did I miss
worn ember
which memo did I miss
pretty sure NMF said to be less toxic
worn ember
who's larry?
left swift
idk
worn ember
left swift
plucky sparrow
agree
worn ember
do you know who also took the L this week
imagine streaming copyrighted material smh
unkempt drift
How long is the ban?
worn ember
permanent i hope
left swift
do you know who also took the L this week
who are you
unkempt drift
Kenny is in charge of all twitch bans
quasi valley
my last name is Twitch
left swift
quasi valley
I am actually Kenny Twitch
left swift
kennyttv
unreal pike
anyone recognize this rankup plugin
left swift
yes
unreal pike
do u know what it is
left swift
yes
unreal pike
what is it called
left swift
why should I tell you
half hawk
why are you like this
left swift
who
silver nexus
Lol
unreal pike
u dont have to
left swift
I put in as much effort into answering questions as the people who ask the questions
quick obsidian
unreal pike
i couldnt find it on spigot..just a question i figured someone on paper would know
dont have to go out of ur way to be an ass
left swift
dont worry I wasnt
unreal pike
yeah clearly not
left swift
thank you for thinking about me though
void void
my last name is Twitch
explains why you stream a lot
plucky sparrow
https://twitter.com/pokimanelol/status/1479656806876024838?
damn, this is gonna cost nomana a lot of money
Don’t think he’ll be able to keep up with the donations
plucky sparrow
Can’t imagine anyone else being the top bits / subs donator
left swift
you'll pickup my slack dap
plucky sparrow
you’re on your own
knotty oasis
Why is it that in Eclipse, you can fudge the build button in the context menu and click 'run build...' , and it adds a new configuration even when you say dont save
pisses me off so much tbh
made worse that you cant use the del key in the run configurations menu to delete the extra config
general eclipse disliker thread
worn ember
simple solutions really... dont use eclipse
crystal lilyBOT
worn ember
smh always changing bots
worn ember
Is there a plugin that limit how much netherite ore you mine in like a hour
whats the use case?
paper has built in anti-xray
crystal lilyBOT
Anti Xray configuration guide: https://gist.github.com/stonar96/ba18568bd91e5afd590e8038d14e245e
stoic skiff
paper has built in anti-xray
Its not a xray problem
but we have a small world thats a point of the server
and we have limited resources
people go to nether and like mine all netherite and there is no more left
i would like to limit how much netherite player mines
hearty spear
Shoot since the new Minecraft update some siblings have been wanting to get a pet axolotl. They live like 15 years
Now it would look legit for a Minecraft LAN party
And they are low maintenance
golden gust
for some reason, I wanted to hear that, then I saw the thumbnail, and kinda remember the music video being... "interesting"...
I forgot why I remembered it was being "interesting"....
wat
waxen panther
def not a vps lol
golden gust
Do you have anything to actually contribute or are you just here to be an annoyance?
golden gust
I mean, am sus on that one
Like, I mean, in my friend group of people, paki is just short for pakistani, my colored mates even call themselves that
but, like, in "white spaces" so to speak, at least over here, that can be deemed as offensive
twin lagoon
just get rid of the user already
golden gust
yea, am inclined to agree
!ban @atomic minnow contributing nothing to the server other than spamming a borderline racist image
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned Fr#3957 (contributing nothing to the server other than spamming a borderline racist image) [2 total infractions] -- electronicboy#8869.
waxen panther
👍
void void
best cat
plucky sparrow
🧱
golden gust
if it was a 1 off, sure, idk, but, given that's all that they seemed to be sharing, far too close to the line
left swift
wat was it
left swift
nice
golden gust
apparently there is some weird ass character called a "makipaki"
and so somebody for some reason kept sharing an image which was basically that characters face on a picture of somebody assumidly of pakistani decent
vernal moth
if I had to guess I would say its indians making fun of pakistani
fair blade
is timings.aikar.co down rn?
worn ember
Aikar done with mc confirmed 
limber knotBOT
just use the config option to use a custom instance 
void void
the wordpress blog is actually fast now
limber knotBOT
maybe he is updating/moving stuff right now 👀
worn ember
aye, rtp works on sponge too now
tropic flame
aikar rap, aikar rap
worn ember
well i implemented it on api 7 so thats 1.12
still thinking of how to do versioning for the new api's when they get stable
void void
is timings.aikar.co down rn?
back now
void void
the wordpress blog is actually fast now
nvm it's slow again
worn ember
the api is nice
dont like their use of optionals though
@Override
public RandomWorld getWorld(String worldName) {
Optional<World> optionalWorld = Sponge.getServer().getWorld(worldName);
return optionalWorld.map(SpongeWorld::new).orElse(null);
}
Quality use of optionals
unkempt drift
lol, why does that return an optional?
worn ember
in case the worldname is invalid i assume?
tired heath
Did somebody know if a benchmark exists like comparing dynmap vs Pl3xmap/Squaremap.
I do not care so much about the render time more about the resource use. But I also like the 3D surface in low res so I'm wondering how much switching would reduce the load.
unkempt drift
in case the worldname is invalid i assume?
no I get that, but why not just null
worn ember
you'd have to ask them, its like that for a lot of stuff
couldve been said about the whole optional concept, why not just return null
@Override
public CompletableFuture<RandomChunkSnapshot> getChunkAtAsync(RandomWorld world, int x, int z) {
return this.world.loadChunkAsync(x, 0, z, true).thenApply(chunk -> {
final Chunk finalChunk = chunk.get();
return new SpongeChunk(new Location<>(finalChunk, x, 0, z));
});
}
this one is really weird too, chunk here is an optional lol but theres no way for it to ever be null im pretty sure
half hawk
no I get that, but why not just null
i've always wondered this, i quite hate how some methods return null aand others Optional<T>
worn ember
well maybe if generate is false, so yeah nvm
round grove
quick question:
what are diamonds worth
like if i were to set up a marketplace, and wanted to sell diamonds, what would i be selling it for
(ofc in minecraft)
unkempt drift
that 100% depends on your server and the economy present on it
round grove
like in resources
iron cant be an option since there are tons of it
gold, same
worn ember
ah the good old days of determining item worth, now try to do it for modded minecraft