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marble lark
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nope

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source code is still public for 1.7

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but you'll have to maintain it yourself

wraith trail
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to extend on that we currently only support 1.17.1/1.18.1

twin lagoon
unkempt drift
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Ban it

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Need to block certain media from loading via discord

marble lark
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wat

unkempt drift
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The rat gif

viscid wedge
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that might work

left swift
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no politics

cunning raft
left swift
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thanks i learned it from you

cunning raft
left swift
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pogging jroy finds me funny omg pogging

marble lark
viscid wedge
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first day of online class

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my professor poured a bunch of whiskey into a coffee cup on stream and then slammed it

left swift
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cool

cunning raft
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@static badge

static badge
cunning raft
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thank you

magic river
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There was a split in the circuit courts before that though

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Some circuits required it, some it was only needed to get extra damages awarded

warm anchor
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Shouldnt you be resting leaf? you just get your furry vaccine

left swift
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god damnit jroy

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look what you did now

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now we gotta talk politics

limber portal
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like why

left swift
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no one cares

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no one asked

limber portal
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u cared to respond tho

left swift
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i like to make fun of idiots

golden gust
left swift
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its my fetish

limber portal
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well thats sad

marble lark
left swift
marble lark
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:P

left swift
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make being a furry against papermc TOS

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make 3.0 great again

proud lance
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RIP leaf patches then

void void
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šŸ™ˆ

turbid spade
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For those that remeber G-r-a-k-k-i-t, it's now on Spigot

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The reason I'm not typing out the full name is because i want to keep the results at 69

spiral robin
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Grakkit

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šŸ™ƒ

turbid spade
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more like

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sus

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😳

silver nexus
turbid spade
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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My grandma has impostor syndrome too

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shes so sus

silver nexus
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i do as well

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the rehab helps

turbid spade
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thank you, I really appreciate this ā¤ļø

crystal compass
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.flags

limber knotBOT
crystal lilyBOT
limber portal
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free nitro

viscid wedge
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hilarious

edgy palm
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imagin

vestal kettle
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@zealous remnant you didn't happen to play RuneScape like 8 years ago and being to a clan named Twenty Seven did you?

vestal kettle
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Aight, that would have been weird lol

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Carry on o7

left swift
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god papermc general so normie now

pastel reef
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Just curious, which server type is more optimized, Paper servers or Bedrock servers?

plucky sparrow
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I believe bedrock servers are easier to run (doesn’t take as many resources), not precisely sure

whole prawn
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funny thing, some official partnered bedrock servers you could do /icanhasbukkit in at some point and it would work, which says that they were using geyser instead of an actual native server

pastel reef
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That's very strange

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Isn't cubecraft one of these?

whole prawn
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i think so

pastel reef
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I noticed from the fast regeneration

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The CubeCraft lobby is even used as a background for https://geysermc.org

vernal moth
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Cube doesn't use geyser

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They have an in home solution

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Cube sponsors geyser tho

thorny totem
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Heya there, is it common to notice minecraft bot crawlers? Remember mclist? There's a new kind of bot crawling (I've reported that to ploxhost's abuse deps and it seems to have stopped, terminated(?)) and seems the guy moved on another hosting company and it continues. I bet the "guy" used the Xbox Game Pass to create accounts

vernal moth
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whats the issue?

void geyser
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This is not related to paper, but im currently getting lagged back. in my LOCAL world. does anyone know what's going on or how do i fix it? i feel like im playing in server with 10 tps. (again, its my local world, lan is not opened). i once got disconnected from my own WORLD. wtf

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yes, im playing demo version since i want to test it first on my laptop, before buying the game, using optifine

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if this is some RAM issues (i have 4gb which only have 1.5gb usable, planning to upgrade later, no money). i might go to bedrock for now. at least until i got a new ram.

vernal moth
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your local world is just a server, so 10 tps makes sense

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what kinda specs do you have?

thorny totem
half hawk
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latest minecraft version is particularly heavy but you might find some help in some fabric mods like sodium, starlight, krypton, hydrogen, and some other scientific-ish named mods

stiff wadi
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Hydrogen for 1.18 is unreleased, ferritecore is out though

stiff wadi
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but one issue with starlight is that it was made for servers, and so it winds up being too quick for clients and causing framedrops as the renderer tries to keep up

void geyser
vernal moth
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yeah you will have no fun with thatz

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its way below the recommended specs by mojang

void geyser
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will dual channel will solve these issues? i read that amd perform better with dual channel

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alright then i guess bedrock is the way to go

half hawk
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dual channel won't help if the rest of the computer is underpowered

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do try old versions though, maybe 1.12 is more your thing if you're desperate to play

void geyser
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it actually perform in 70-110fps, ofcourse sometimes dropped a bit, but the lag back tho. it sucks

half hawk
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its probably because you have only 2 slow cores

vernal moth
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its also below bedrocks recommended specs

void geyser
warm anchor
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Have you try fabric client with entire periodic table installed?

half hawk
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they went with optifine (sad)

warm anchor
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So they want death

void geyser
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so i go with it

half hawk
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maybe you'll have better performance with a paper server + joining localhost in the minecraft multiplayer menu ??

void geyser
half hawk
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just try out the fabric performance mods

void geyser
half hawk
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yeah

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do you need a list of recommended mods?

void geyser
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i will try this "periodic table" first

half hawk
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uh

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eternity pls

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y u do dis

void geyser
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im gonna try without mods

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first

half hawk
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you need performance mods to get better performance

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fabric alone won't do anything

void geyser
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how do i remove optifine? does deleting it from mc launcher enough? i want to keep things simple

half hawk
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i have no idea

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i havent used it since 1.12

void geyser
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dude my explorer literally crashed

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alright 1 fps without mods, seems about right

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download link pls

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can't find it

warm anchor
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You don’t have to remove it.

half hawk
# void geyser can't find it
  • sodium: better rendering engine with big fps improvements
  • lithium: optimizes a lot of the game logic for faster performance, will help the vanilla server tps
  • starlight: rewrites the lighting system for huge performance benefits
  • krypton: optimizes the networking part of the game
  • lazydfu: will make startup faster by not loading the minecraft code that upgrades worlds
half hawk
warm anchor
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All my music mod is still stuck in 1.17

meager tusk
warm anchor
meager tusk
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pR oR shUt Up.

warm anchor
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I will probably die first before going into modding so..

void geyser
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yes i put everything at "fast" or "off". it still does that

half hawk
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did you read eternity's guide

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theres like 20 performance mods and i just mentioned like 4

void geyser
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i might do it later

half hawk
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  • cull leaves: stops rendering of leaf blocks that you don't see
  • cull particles: stops rendering of particles that you don't see
  • entity culling: hide entities and block entities that aren't visible
  • enhanced block entities: reduces fps stutter with block entities (like chests)
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ferritecore, nofade, dynamic fps, sodium extra, item model fix, okzoomer

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etc

void geyser
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i still reading the mod list, i will give you any update later

tropic flame
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the absolute state of replacing one single mod with 20 small ones

void void
tropic flame
proud lance
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If the single mods do something well it's better than the one mod that does everything okay

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That being said fabric and the performance mods are better imo than optifine, and you can still use shaders

serene bolt
void geyser
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staying w/ optifine ig, or not gonna play java at all. might buy bedrock instead, and play with geyser

void void
void geyser
void void
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Use OptiFine + OptiFabric + other optimization mods mentioned before

void geyser
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here's what my specs.

void void
void geyser
main python
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nice specs overview

void void
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You absolutely need mods that decrease RAM usage

void geyser
void void
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It would be better to buy entirely new laptop/desktop instead

void geyser
void void
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and run AdwCleaner to clean your laptop from AdWares

void geyser
void geyser
void void
void geyser
void void
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Windows 11 has high memory usage for no reason, it is still unstable about memory usage

proud lance
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Or just switch to Linux

void geyser
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i already want to downgrade. but i don't want to lose my ms

void void
void geyser
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for student

void void
void geyser
void void
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You won't use it

void geyser
void void
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why did you tried Arch as a first example?

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Use Linux Mint if you are going to switch to Linux

void geyser
void void
void geyser
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i was using ubuntu, but a little bit of challenge won't be a problem

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and it was a problem

proud lance
void void
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Linux can be tedious sometimes and you want to use Microsoft Office officially

proud lance
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Just use it for Minecraft gaming windows for everything else

void geyser
proud lance
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You have 4GB RAM

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There's no miracles here at this point

void void
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Just get rid of Windows 11 ASAP

void geyser
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i will try and hope that wont happen again

void void
proud lance
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I hate those scripts

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Figure out what they do and do it one by one, don't run a script that does god knows what to your system

void void
proud lance
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What I am saying is don't blindly run those scripts without knowing exactly what they do and what they change

void geyser
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again, does downgrading remove all apps? and is it possible to downgrade without making bootable usb?

void geyser
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redownloading 28gb of genshin impact data with 5mbps wifi is a pain in the ass

void void
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Because Windows 11 is just a reskin of Windows 10 with some small features

void geyser
proud lance
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You can always shrink your main ssd make a second partition and copy that stuff over there.

void void
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I have an idea

void geyser
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60mbps is also a pain in the ass

void void
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I switched to Windows 11 back in the day using Rufus without formatting drive

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Steps:

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1: Install Windows 10 ISO from Microsoft itself

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2: Format it to an USB using Rufus

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3: Do NOT close the system, just open USB and run Media Creation Tool program inside it

proud lance
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60 MB/s isn't long

void void
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4: Start installation. At one point it will ask for "If you want to keep your files". Choose yes

void void
void geyser
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will program files formatted

void void
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no

void geyser
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alright, time to download windows 10 iso

void geyser
proud lance
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Yeah I would just back up anything important regardless. I still suggest Ubuntu + MultiMC personally and see if you get more performance that way

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4GB was like okay for XP not for 10

void geyser
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2gb ram

proud lance
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It can run, doesn't mean it should

void geyser
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work good, at least after ssd, before ssd it took 5 min to get to desktop

proud lance
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Plus I dunno how true it is with Linux being better choice for AMD graphics

void void
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AMD drivers are superior on Linux

proud lance
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So yeah more performance

void void
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but... he/she/they will play Genshin Impact and Valorant in his/her/their computer

proud lance
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Yeah they can switch to Windows for that, you can dual boot after all

proud lance
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You don't need to be one or the other

void void
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There is a setting in Linux Mint that directly sets up Dual Boot for you

void geyser
# proud lance Plus I dunno how true it is with Linux being better choice for AMD graphics

limited space currently, 256gb nvme, i have another ssd, but opening the back of the laptop will void the warranty, this laptop is not even a month, so im not doing it. (the seller says i need to upgrade ram with them if i don't want to void my warranty. which is suck considering their ram is a bit overpriced, so im planning to move ssd from my old laptop to new laptop when i bought new ram)

proud lance
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I think all main distro will do that for you now if you have windows installed

proud lance
void geyser
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if i have this ssd, i'm gonna dual boot arch

void geyser
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i still need it

proud lance
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Nothing about that changes what I said

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Dual booting just for Minecraft won't take up a lot of space

void void
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Switching OS just for Minecraft is a bit tedious

proud lance
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Valid point

void geyser
proud lance
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If you are moving it, then it's the same thing won't consume any extra space because it will be on Linux not windows

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But anyway, that's just my 2 cents

void geyser
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alright downloading windows 10 with 5mbps wifi, i'll go offline since this will take a while, im gonna put this laptop to idle so it won't consume lot of power

plucky sparrow
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256gb is plenty enough for windows and lots of programs

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For games of course not but windows & programs most definitely

marble lark
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even for games 256GB should be decent unless said games are massive

golden gust
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256GB

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So, that's what, 4, 5 games?

void void
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I'm fine with 128 GB SSD with Windows 11 in it because I also have a seperate 1 TB HDD

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I also disabled Hibernation, resulting of deletion of 13 GB hiberfil.sys file from my SSD

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There is still 59 GB empty space in 128 GB SSD

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All my games and files are in HDD

proud lance
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Disk cleaner can clean out that

void void
golden gust
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I mean, not all that was said

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the updates need that space as they're running

marble lark
golden gust
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I've had issues with updates failing once disk space starts getting that low

untold copper
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someday i'm gonna buy an ssd

marble lark
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simply run it to wipe your drives

proud lance
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Just don't do updates

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Ez

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I like my 2TB name even though I have like 150 GB space left

golden gust
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I erm, 1TB SSD for macOS/bootcamp

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pci is its own sepearete nvme which apple hid in the machine

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and, the yellow ones are a 2TB HDD

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(dual partition because APFS go brr, or some shit)

marble lark
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bootcamp

edgy palm
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youtube messing up a ping

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IT IS YOUTUBe

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also why karljacobs arent there anyone btter

cunning raft
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@waxen panther ^

waxen panther
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wow !

rancid void
silver nexus
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Awww

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That’s an acceptable reason to not have internet

sullen jasper
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Chunky going hard rn

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holy

rancid void
sullen jasper
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517734400 blocks per second

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jesus

rancid void
twin lagoon
sullen jasper
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I figured that out after it slowed down lol

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makes sense

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I'm just dumb

marble lark
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ello Mini

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how's Christmas been

chrome cosmos
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raiding free hosts that claim 24/7 with crpyto miners is fun

vernal moth
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also an asshole move

sullen jasper
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its a free host

vernal moth
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yours?

waxen panther
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😬

vernal moth
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soon?

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we should bet on the rotten tomato score

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closest to the score one week after release wins something

marble lark
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quiet as always

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not sure if that's a good thing since lot of people i know from school long ago celebrate quite a lot

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then there's just me sitting at home alone looking out the window

worn ember
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rated R minecraft movie wen

vernal moth
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I can get used to this šŸ˜„

tropic flame
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been surviving with a single 149GB disk since 2016

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can fit multiple games in here

ember vapor
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ok i'm just bored

chrome cosmos
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looks clean

plucky sparrow
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you can make it dark mode

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uhh you can select the theme in the footer

chrome cosmos
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it already is

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it is a better discord or powercord theme

plucky sparrow
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wha

chrome cosmos
plucky sparrow
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it's the forums

marble lark
void void
vernal moth
chrome cosmos
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me dumb

golden gust
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yes.

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yes you are.

chrome cosmos
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will be cool if a dude makes a theme like that tho

vernal moth
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theme for what?

chrome cosmos
worthy geode
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at least you can change the saturation now, we are getting closer and closer to official custom themes kekw

marble lark
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what's your job about?

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if they're hiring people I need the cash

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:/

limber knotBOT
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I don't think you have any difficulty finding a job as a software engineer lol

vernal moth
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do you speak german? šŸ˜„

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I get a 5k bonus for anybody getting hired thru my recommendation

marble lark
marble lark
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I know 1 word

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schisse

golden gust
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I know a few words

limber knotBOT
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at least your spelling is as good as the average German one's

golden gust
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Just

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Joys of growing up in a racist families

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all the words I know would get me into shit

marble lark
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ouch

limber knotBOT
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depends on the city šŸ˜…

marble lark
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true that some would probably cheer you on lmao

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5k for getting someone hired is a lot though dayum

magic river
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Kill me

vernal moth
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feels like -30

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wat

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oh is that F?

void void
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.calc -30f to celcius

limber knotBOT
magic river
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They cross at -40 so yeah, not too different

vernal moth
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but -6f is like -20c so its not that big of a difference

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between actual and felt

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thats what looked wrong to me

worthy geode
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is there at least snow on the ground? cold without snow is boring 😦

crisp coral
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why aren't the villager prices going down everytime I cure them

pale hinge
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hi guys. i set the worldspawn height around 3, but the game keeps spawning me on the surface. around 50 or something. is there any way to fix it?

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im on 1.18

crisp coral
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sorry lol but which
1

pale hinge
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i didnt understand your question, sorry

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what do you mean by "which one"

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i mean Y coord (height)

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i think the game thinks its not safe

worn ember
void geyser
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Can't keep anything. the only option is to wipe everything

little frost
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sounds like windows

worthy geode
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at least it tells you whats wrong, windows likes to just say "oh, an error" and thats it

void geyser
worthy geode
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Well, downgrading not being supported is pretty standard

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Paper also does not support it for example kekw

void geyser
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yeah i guess i'll just add more ram, because windows takes half of it on boot

worthy geode
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how much do you have? Win 11 runs pretty well for me, been using it since the first insider builds

void geyser
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4g

worthy geode
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uh okay that is indeed quite low

void geyser
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yep, it's the minimum requirement

tropic flame
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Windows 10 supported downgrading to 7 or 8.1 if you had done an in-place upgrade

void geyser
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it took 74% of my ram, 5 minute after booting. yes, the other 500mb got into the video ram thing

tropic flame
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I'd expect 11 to be the same and you could downgrade to 10 but ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

void geyser
tropic flame
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and see if your hardware has drivers for Windows 10 first

hearty spear
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it will have drivers for windows 10 lol

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there is a reason why adoption is slow for windows 11

worthy geode
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not sure if ram usage is better on 10 tho

tropic flame
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Windows 11 is a hog and is getting even more "streamlined" (read: they're removing even more features) because they want to push their UWP crap

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people talk about Win32 being trash but what's trash is the new explorer

void geyser
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it's using lesser than a gig

worthy geode
hearty spear
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its like trying to immitate mac os with the rounded crap

void geyser
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i hate using shift + f10 to get the old thing

tropic flame
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iirc it's in Folder Options

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same place where you enable hidden folders

worthy geode
tropic flame
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... or regedit

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that also works

rain delta
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Use winaero

marble lark
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this is why I stayed with 10

void geyser
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which one is it

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the option to disabled

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meh im gonna google it
edit : alright got it

rain delta
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Anyone have any ideas for how to handle PVP on a survival server? I have an RPG server and I want to incorporate PVP into it in a fair way that makes the game more interesting.

Ideas we’ve had:

  • After being killed, the victim respawns where they were killed (10 second cooldown) and with strength/health buffs for 60 seconds so they can track down their killer.

OR

  • After being killed, the victim respawns somewhere random near where they died, up to 150 blocks away, and a chest is placed near them with their items (minus 30% of their ores/gems) and a piece of paper with their death coordinates.

OR

  • Victim respawns at their bed, items drop like normal (so vanilla mechanics) BUT the killer gets flagged with a bounty, which gives anyone who kills them extra XP. The bounty is announced in chat, and likely would last 24h or something.
worthy geode
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1 seem problematic if building is allowed, because the killer would just build something around the victim and they become trapped when respawning.

I have a system similar to 2 in place, but the respawn locations are fixed (like in MMORPGs sometimes) and they don't loose items

rain delta
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Good point on #1

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Why don’t players lose items on your server? What is the penalty for dying then?

worthy geode
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there is none. its not survival, its a gamemode where you fight against two other teams in a long battle, and killing people gives you points. So there is an incentive to kill someone, but no penalty for dying

rain delta
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Ah gotcha

void geyser
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add to malfrador #1, can't you add some kind of "ghost mode"? the player will be invincible for 5 second, can go through block. after the "ghost mode" expire (say 30 sec), the player will teleport on their spawn point

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if the player dies on ghost mode, they would respawn like normal

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i got this idea because you said "track down their killer"

rain delta
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With #1, We were planning to have the player enter spectator mode for the 10 second respawn cooldown. The idea was they would spectate their killer like a kill cam, and then when they respawn they know where the killer is

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I suppose we could let them use the spectator mode to determine where they spawn

void geyser
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don't allow the ghost to break block, since it can be exploited

void geyser
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you don't want the ghost spawn at 20k when he dead in 500

rain delta
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I also see what your saying. So if they die they have 30 seconds as a ghost to get revenge before they respawn at their bed

worthy geode
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I also see some potential for exploits there. e.g. they die in front of a wall designed to keep them out, and then respawn on top of that same wall

rain delta
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Yeah true.

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I kind of like this ghost idea tho. So if they get revenge while they are a ghost, then they get their items back.

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Otherwise they respawn at their bed with nothing

hearty spear
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imagine doing that on a factions server lol

worthy geode
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could be fun if done right

rain delta
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I wonder if I could enable auto-respawn just for entering ghost mode and then have them see the kill screen after ghost mode times out?

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A command like /giveup could let them skip the 30 seconds if they don’t want to try.

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How would the battle between killer & victim work? Does the killer see them as a normal player? Can they fight back?

void geyser
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auto respawn? why don't just cancel the dead, put them to spectator, and do whatever you want to do

void geyser
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probably give them speed

worthy geode
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give the target player a outline as well

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(glowing effect)

void geyser
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yeah i forgot about outline, too much playing bedrock

rain delta
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How would the ghost travel through walls? Should they get fly?

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The killer could just build up a few blocks and be safe

void geyser
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does plugin like coreProtect have API? to check who put block in X

rain delta
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So the ghost can break blocks placed by the killer?

worn ember
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yes

half hawk
void geyser
half hawk
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you can barely run windows why are you installing an even more bloated one

void geyser
half hawk
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oh no that's awful i'm so sorry

void geyser
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i don't even think about using win 11

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it shit

worn ember
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reinstall DOS

void geyser
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i know

half hawk
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or do you swear by windows 7 master race?

warm anchor
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Life is hard

void geyser
half hawk
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😦

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maybe proton is your chance to escape windows 11

void geyser
void geyser
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i was having issues with wine, literally. always one issues,
#1 ubuntu
i can't install wine because its broken

#2 ubuntu
i can install wine but my game installer just won't run

#3 ubuntu
i can install wine and install games, but the internet is gone

#4 arch
no issues, but the installation is a pain

void void
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then you are stuck with win11 until you back up everything

void geyser
#

i mean windows installation won't remove all partition right? i can make a backup partition now ig

void void
#

btw, you used Rufus and used "extended options" as ISO setting, right?

plucky sparrow
#

What’s the pain with installing arch

void geyser
#

not iso or anything

void geyser
half hawk
#

it downloads an .img same thing

plucky sparrow
#

Just use arch-install

void void
#

Use Rufus + Windows 10 ISO and prefer "Extended" setting

#

Format an USB

plucky sparrow
#

Or manjaro or even endeavourOS

void void
#

DO NOT FORMAT PC

#

just open USB from Explorer

#

run mediacreationtool inside USB

void geyser
#

maybe tomorrow, downloading windows 10 iso is taking like 3-4 hour with this wifi

void void
void geyser
#

yes my timezone is GMT+7 so its midnight

void void
#

use the Rufus configured one

void geyser
red panther
#

16 cores, 32 threads of CPU

golden gust
#

epyc

#

200 players

#

walks out

red panther
half hawk
#

it wont work

#

you need fewer fast cores

#

32 threads won't do anything for minecraft

half hawk
#

what do you want me to see in this page

golden gust
#

sigh

red panther
#

ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

golden gust
#

Minecraft is a game

#

the server for the game follows the typical system design, etc, for games

#

using a web CPU for a game would be stupid

warm anchor
#

Just use game4

#

Or something like that I forgot the name

red panther
#

I currently have a 16GB Bloom VPS (proxy, lobby and skyblock, and with around 80-100 players TPS are down to 12-13, optimized configs)

red panther
golden gust
#

idk what hardware they use

warm anchor
#

Game4 they got new naming @red panther

golden gust
#

pretty sure what they offered was pretty high end in the scope of things

#

So, how much you'll be able to scale on just hardware alone šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

frank otter
#

actually now that I think about it

red panther
rain delta
frank otter
#

out of curiosity (I don't know much about alternative architectures) is x86 the best generally for servers

red panther
warm anchor
#

Oh it’s game 2

spiral robin
#

OMG @warm anchor hi

half hawk
warm anchor
#

Good morning @spiral robin

half hawk
#

arm seems to be working towards that but there arent consumer cpus

red panther
#

Ok, thank you all for advice

golden gust
#

It's a web CPU

#

high core, low CPU

#

not designed for consistently turbo'ing

#

the epyc being 2 years newer does help bridge that gap, but, theres also many dozen other caveats

#

epyc's suck for MC

rain delta
golden gust
#

it's commodity hardware in a box

half hawk
#

just me or is that real expensive?

golden gust
#

typical, you get what you pay forā„¢

#

They're pretty nice but their network reliability is far from perfect

rain delta
#

It’s like half the price of something comparable from OVH.

warm anchor
#

That’s pretty standard price

rain delta
#

Ah so network is the weak spot?

warm anchor
#

OVH game server comes with ddos mitigation idk how good hetzners

red panther
#

Also I'm not that experienced with dedis, but I'm pretty familiar with VPS. Do dedis require any special configuration?

warm anchor
#

No

#

It’s same as how you operate your vps

#

Just now the whole ass machine is yours

tropic flame
half hawk
golden gust
#

AyyyyyyMD

plucky sparrow
tropic flame
#

pog

warm anchor
#

apparently the card smells like anime EmaBkr

golden gust
#

cruuuunch roooooooll, taaaakeee me hooooome

warm anchor
#

I see zcat is a true Gura enjoyer EmaBkr

plucky sparrow
#

The cat one looks better

left swift
#

anime smells like pennies and high school locker rooms

warm anchor
#

no mana, that's just your average pokimane subscriber you got it mixed up

left swift
#

they're both the same

plucky sparrow
#

tbh

void void
#

Wtf

warm anchor
#

I know I know. Don’t get too excited Noah

shell kelp
crystal lilyBOT
magic river
#

So, uh, metaverse is the new cloud huh?

left swift
#

pog

golden gust
worn ember
#

Thing needs tank tracks

golden gust
#

kinda looks like it fell off the curb lol

worn ember
#

dum bot

void void
#

new PaperMC Forum??

worn ember
#

no your mind is playing tricks on you

golden gust
#

new?

#

feels like it's been there for like a month

warm anchor
#

True EmaBkr

golden gust
worn ember
#

fake

#

ur not admin material

golden gust
#

Trick is to get in early and make your way up the chain so that when they start tryna be nice about stuff, you're already there

worn ember
#

worked in cv for me kek

vernal moth
#

CV

#

kek

worn ember
#

good old days amirite

#

did paper even have a discord back then?

cosmic raft
#

when

golden gust
#

!serverinfo

worn ember
#

early 2018

golden gust
#

!info

thorny flickerBOT
#
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cosmic raft
#

yes

vernal moth
#

nobody used it tho

cosmic raft
#

!server

thorny flickerBOT
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golden gust
#

5 years

#

jesus fuck

cosmic raft
#

9 March 2017

worn ember
#

damn

#

we getting old bois

cosmic raft
#

hey, cat

#

remember the good old days?

#

single irc channel

limber knotBOT
#

it this message automatically sent

vernal moth
#

no

limber knotBOT
#

omg im scared

#

so many big people there

viscid wedge
#

gepron1x: what IRC client are you using?

left swift
#

u calling them fat?

golden gust
#

single IRC channel, everything done in there, 0 other channels, etc

#

god, what a time

worthy geode
limber knotBOT
#

"serious"

left swift
#

!info

golden gust
#

Just some small ass project with a few dozen users

left swift
#

unlucky

limber knotBOT
#

i havent been there for a while

worn ember
#

Sponge moment

left swift
#

info me catdad

#

why doesnt discord display this info on your profile tho real talk

#

join dates n shit

worn ember
#

your braincells wouldnt be able to take the load

limber knotBOT
#

soup6020: i use hexchat

magic river
worn ember
#

octochat for the win

#

looks like thats not the only thing that stopped working

#

haha i sure hope so

limber knotBOT
#

goodbye BillyRae

left swift
#

what if it doesnt

#

the oven becomes sentient

limber knotBOT
#

does someone rember me? i was whining about bad server performance in 2020

magic river
#

If it doesn't turn off when you remove power we need to harness it for infinite energy and save the world

left swift
#

it uses us as power

limber knotBOT
#

is new papermc forum a good place to post my plugin

worthy geode
#

if its only runs on Paper its probably the best you get, otherwise I would post it on spigot as it reaches a wider audience there

worn ember
red timber
#

shit still performs bad compared to 1.7.10

#

:^)

worn ember
#

you should just get better hardware bro

left swift
golden gust
#

if you mean posting a release of a plugin, use the forums

#

it's a work in progress

worn ember
#

its not abandoned

golden gust
#

It's literally not released yet

#

Once it's released you'll post on hangar rather than the forums

#

the forums is just there make-shift until hangar is out

worn ember
#

spigot new theme wen

#

@cosmic raft you found out the cause of that bottom nav bar? Or you havent looked yet?

worn ember
golden gust
#

check your network requests page

void void
#

any extensions?

golden gust
#

something is probs getting blocked maybe?

#

did anybody else reproduce it?

worn ember
#

nah nothings blocked

#

its also only when i'm logged in

void void
worn ember
#

well i have a bunch but non of them touch css

golden gust
#

oh god

worn ember
#

lmao

golden gust
#

light theme looks ok

inner pumice
#

is it possible to have plugins and mods on the same server file

worn ember
#

you can look into sponge but the dont run bukkit plugins

golden gust
#

with paper? no

limber knotBOT
#

btw i was just running a 2ghz vds those days

golden gust
#

there are hybrid servers but are unsupported and expect issues

worn ember
#

mods bypass plugins anyway

twin lagoon
golden gust
#

that was the "default" theme

worn ember
#

seems like some random class gets added under the footer for whatever reason

viscid wedge
#

yeah idk why people insist on hybrid solutions, you can accomplish so much more with a modern modloader than you ever will with Bukkit api

#

different audience obviously, both have their place

lean kiln
#

maybe forge is better, idk

worn ember
worn ember
fallen oracle
#

Dark, what's a good starting character for dota?

lean kiln
#

on fabric I just monitor basic player place and break block

worn ember
#

what role?

lean kiln
#

and even that requires mixins PepeLa

fallen oracle
#

Idc

#

I'm in new player mode

viscid wedge
worn ember
#

dont you get a suggested one for each role?

fallen oracle
#

I'm doing drow ranger

worn ember
#

yeah not the easiest to play in practise, relies a lot on good positioning

#

dragon knight is a good all rounder

#

bristleback if you just wanna mash some buttons

fallen oracle
#

I got counted off gold because I forgot to lock in LOL

worn ember
#

you playing vs people or bots?

fallen oracle
#

Idk

worn ember
#

or is it trainer mode?

tropic flame
worn ember
#

i should probably finish all those kek

fallen oracle
#

Oh no

#

New player mode

worn ember
#

honestly dont worry too much about the picks in the beginning just pick something you think seems fun and then learn game mechanics

#

but try to stick to one hero so you can focus on the game rather than trying to figure out what the hero does

left swift
#

ded is teaching someone to be an instalocker gross!

fallen oracle
#

I think I picked the wrong difficulty

worn ember
#

how so?

fallen oracle
#

This is hard lOL

#

I just had 4 guys come and take me out

worn ember
#

xD

fallen oracle
#

I just need to learn the mechanics a little better.

worn ember
#

play some bot games, the bots arent the best representation of real people but it'll help get mechanics down

warm anchor
#

Glare Dota enjoyer now?

fallen oracle
#

Wtf this dude just shot fire charges at me and I couldn't move until he killed me

worn ember
#

dude on a bat?

fallen oracle
#

Yeah

worn ember
#

bat pickers in new games PepeYikes

magic river
#

Not sure why Intel thought this slide made them look good

worn ember
#

thats one useless looking graph

magic river
#

I mean, I guess if it's believable it means they're faster when you're on the extreme end of the M1's power usage curve

unkempt drift
#

MAX power use

fallen oracle
#

This dude is level 26 already and I'm level 18 wtf

magic river
#

But that's just the start of the 12900HK's power curve so...

worn ember
#

probably a smurf or just played more than you

#

are those turbo games?

magic river
#

Like, sure, you can probably get a faster laptop with the Intel chip but only if you want something that sets your pants on fire, weighs 15 pounds, and gets maybe 90 minutes of battery life

worn ember
#

you dont really want intel chips in your laptops anymore tbh

void void
#

I'm happy with my M1

worn ember
#

@warm anchor do people actually know those out of their head lol

void void
#

Battery is near-unlimited lmao

unkempt drift
#

wait, why does that graph have "Mobile" in the title?

warm anchor
#

If it’s edgy case @worn ember maybe

magic river
#

Those are mobile CPUs

warm anchor
#

I doubt anyone will know those

unkempt drift
#

M1 Max is a mobile CPU?

void void
#

also it doesn't lose performance when you unplug the laptop from electricity

worn ember
#

yeah i know right

fallen oracle
#

Oh hey we won

magic river
#

M1 Max is in the 14" and 16" MBP so yeah

worn ember
#

šŸ‘

#

100% winrate

void void
#

My absolute dream is M1-style laptop but for gaming

unkempt drift
#

I didn't know that was considered "mobile". thought those were for literally mobile phones

magic river
#

The M1 Max in theory has plenty of GPU power for gaming

void void
#

1- Same performance with both plugged and unplugged

#

2- Light or passive cooling

worn ember
#

@warm anchordo you know if you can windwake someone out of bh? i never tried kek

magic river
#

Dunno if it's bad drivers, poor tuning in the games for mobile-style GPUs and/or Metal, or if the GPU has some bottlenecks

void void
#

for example OpenGL support is incredibly bad

magic river
#

From a TFLOPS, ROPs, etc measurement the M1 Max GPU should be somewhere around the 3070M iirc

#

But it's more like a 1650M

void void
#

Sodium devs want to yeet Mac support just to improve Minecraft performance a lot more

worn ember
void void
#

Apple refuses to update it's OpenGL drivers

warm anchor
#

Oh yeah

magic river
#

OpenGL is a dead system for them, I'm kind of surprised they didn't use the ARM move to get rid of it

limber knotBOT
#

Reminder for @vernal moth: L4J GO BRRRRR

magic river
#

I guess they wanted to show off their compatibility with Rosetta though

#

OpenGL is just a poorly written layer on top of Metal now, iirc

#

GLES on iOS is like that at least

warm anchor
#

I think you can yes @worn ember the person being windwalked need to control it though many people dotn know

void void
magic river
#

People are working on getting ZInk to work on top of MoltenVK so you can finally have a good GL driver on macOS

golden gust
magic river
#

I wonder if that means it works or if this was just step 1

#

If they made MC work with GLES you could use MoltenGL instead

vernal moth
#

fuck you cat

golden gust
#

ur welcom ā¤ļø

pseudo pilot
#

im sorry

worn ember
ashen cliff
#

MSI laptop. kekwhyper

pseudo pilot
#

rtx3060 tho

#

for 1k

void void
#

wait... github does allow you to search for forks

ashen cliff
pseudo pilot
ashen cliff
#

Amazing.

void void
golden gust
#

repository search

#

You mean, searching for repos?

#

cos, the issue is searching in repos

void void
#

oop, nvm then

#

I said nothing

#

you saw nothing

livid furnace
#

Hey team! I was wanting to reach out to a staff member here but I don't wanna be rude. Was wondering if there's someone specific I should contact?

void void
#

Depends on what you're trying to reach out for

#

Use /modmail for moderation related stuff

void void
ashen cliff
#

No idea why, but they legit allowed undervolting the audio IC in the bios. kekwhyper

magic river
#

iirc the 2021 G14 has Intel+nvidia versions too, looks like for 2022 it's pure AMD

livid furnace
void void
#

I hate Optimus with my entire existence

ashen cliff
#

Same.

#

So Google is your friend. kekwhyper

#

In my case it's legit just eDP directly from NoVidea.

magic river
#

Yeah, without a muxer you either always have the dGPU on using 1-5W driving outputs or lose 10% on your framerates by making the dGPU stream the framebuffer to the iGPU

golden gust
#

idk how this ended up in my suggestions

#

but, it did, and, so, enjoy

worn ember
golden gust
#

first comment doe

left swift
#

perv

magic river
#

Oh yeah I think nvidia has always had kind of shit idle power usage so... oof?

ashen cliff
#

Good thing it has 2 GPUs... so 60W constant.

magic river
#

iirc if you plug in a "big" enough screen it ramps the clocks up even if you're only using it to show a 2D framebuffer

#

Like 1440p+ or 90Hz+

ashen cliff
#

They "had" to do that on older GPUs, even without having "big" displays.

#

Like, the first display was like 5W, everything after that was like 10W added.

#

So, the GPU 1 always ran super hot compared to the rest.

#

Talking about a 5°C~10°C diff in some SLI setups.

magic river
#

Huh, I don't think anandtech ever got any RDNA2 GPUs to review

#

Was looking for a comparison on idle usage

#

Oh, or their bench section is just super outdated, they don't have anything from the last year or two in there

ashen cliff
#

The idle is fine with just 1 display.

hearty spear
#

sounds about right

ashen cliff
hearty spear
#

i have a 1080 also

ashen cliff
#

I love how Anand has a total system power consumption with the 1080 OC at 388W running Crysis 3... while mine pulls 363W alone with playing BL3. kekwhyper

#

And that 7k RPM max fan reading... dedusting while running. kekwhyper

worn ember
#

not sure what else it should return lmfao

warm anchor
#

Pog ded personal website?

left swift
#

dedsite

worn ember
#

just nothing on it except my ci

warm anchor
#

I see

#

Should post your Dota montage

worn ember
left swift
grim ice
#

Hey, quick question :D
Anyone know of a Plugin that simply disables TNT explosions?
One plugin I found was supposed to be "updated a lot", with last update 2021 lul
Preferably also disabling placement, but not required

half hawk
static ermine
#

I need to stop being lazy and add papermc to systemd

void void
#

paperd

static ermine
#

I would absolutely call it that

tardy wren
#

. flags

#

.flags

limber knotBOT
unreal pike
#

anyone know if gold or amethyst is rarer

viscid wedge
void void
#

was*

viscid wedge
#

right

#

hasn't seen a commit for nearly a year

worthy geode
# unreal pike anyone know if gold or amethyst is rarer

Amethyst geodes have a 1/24 chance of generating per chunk, while gold ore blobs are generated up to four times per chunk. But amethyst geodes contain a lot more amethyst so in the end its probably pretty equal.

I don't think anyone has done the exact math yet

hearty spear
#

Plus you can regrow it

#

From the funny blocks

#

And get more

#

Sadly you can't silk the ones that grow stuff

#

The easiest way to find them I've found is to go lots of caving

#

Although if you do a mine with lots of shafts

#

Parallel and you will find some

marble lark
#

lmao

magic river
#

So what are the odds the Steam Deck is just using a Ryzen 6000 series APU and the delay to February is because AMD took longer than expected to release those?

warm anchor
#

it will be funny if it is delayed again PepeLa

rain delta
#

.

#

šŸ˜‚

crystal compass
#

So my entire dedi becomes unresponsive and i get this, does anyone know what is going on here? ```
thread 'main' panicked at 'Can't create symlink!: Os { code: 30, kind: ReadOnlyFilesystem, message: "Read-only file system" }', src/commands/env.rs:44:58
note: run with RUST_BACKTRACE=1 environment variable to display a backtrace

#

@twin lagoon pepeJam

#

basically all my servers and website and discord bots hosted all turn off, I login to ssh, greeted with that error. Restarting whole dedi fixes it but until it happens again every day or so.

spiral robin
#

@winter pasture peepoClapJamminMoment peepoClapJamminMoment peepoClapJamminMoment peepoClapJamminMoment peepoClapJamminMoment

void geyser
golden gust
#

read only filesystem

#

er, well, it's saying that the FS is read only, and, if that's the root fs, gl

crystal compass
#

it is, and a restart fixes it

#

idk how tf this happens

#

i checked out my system logs, turns out rclone has been trying to mount my onedrive every second for the last 12 hours

#

google, people are telling me that the FileSystem randomly becoming read only could be signs of a bad harddrive.

golden gust
#

that's the default behavior for when a filesystem error occurs

#

could be the FS, could be the disk, could be the kernel

#

check dmesg if you can

crystal compass
#

gonna restart the dedi and get rid of the systemd onedrive mounting as I dont need it or want it anyway

#

then ill monitor dmesg

rare python
winter pasture
crystal compass
#

Not sure if this has anything to do with the file system suddenly becoming read only, but this is spammed before things get fucky. dockerd: time="2022-01-01T10:15:56.692130076-05:00" level=warning msg="got error while decoding json" error="unexpected EOF" retries=0

void geyser
# void void use the Rufus configured one

alright just an update, i won't downgrade to win 10.

according to the warranty card, the software MUST be on it's original state, that mean downgrading to windows 10 will 100% void my warranty.

this laptop isn't even a month, so im not voiding the warranty. because as someone on the internet said, some problem comes in 1-6 month after you bought an item

proud lance
#

thats absolute nonsense

#

"I deleted my OS because I have financial documents that are sensitive"

red timber
#

it is lol

#

heck, i expected mac warranty to have a clause about software

#

"dual boot and ur rip"

#

but they don't, which was kind of surprising...

viscid wedge
void geyser
proud lance
void geyser
#

"All software that comes with the unit is provided as is (original)."

Another one

"The serial number and or IMEI number has been lost, deleted, damaged or changed"

The card says, in my language of course. Translated

void geyser
proud lance
#

its utter nonsense

#

I work for a company that deals with all the laptop manufacturers

#

and I have done my share of RMAs in the past, never a thing

#

if you are worried about it you can always clone the original drive to an image and put it somewhere and restore when you need warranty

#

"The serial number and or IMEI number has been lost, deleted, damaged or changed"

Has nothing to do here, serials aren't stored in the OS, they are read by the OS from the hardware

void geyser
#

Yes i will do that later, just not now.

void geyser
#

And also, i probaby voided my warranty over a block game. I think it's not worth it

proud lance
#

you didnt

void geyser
#

Im going to bedrock instead

void geyser
proud lance
#

daddy acer does not

#

sold their products, they dont invalidate warranty

#

for OS installs

void geyser
#

I know, i only can claim a warranty if the hardware is damaged, not software, but daddy acer say that i need to get every software is in its original state, so im not taking the risk

viscid wedge
void geyser
proud lance
#

you haven't even tried to claim warranty, so you cant claim you invalidated a warranty, so its moot. But no laptop manufacturer has ever denied service on the grounds the OS isn't original

#

they wipe the drive and install their image

viscid wedge
#

That's cool

proud lance
#

daddy acer say that i need to get every software is in its original state, so im not taking the risk

So if you get a virus and it deletes your system32 folder you can't claim warranty? Utter nonsense.

#

Its not a thing

proud lance
#

Its not

#

stop making things up

void geyser
#

Yeah im gonna downgrade anyway, just not now.

radiant pumice
#

hey

#

anyone want to join my map?

#

it's good

upbeat falconBOT
waxen panther
#

not the place

radiant pumice
#

what

#

why?

waxen panther
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this server is all devs and admins

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no one’s going to want to join someone’s server

radiant pumice
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:(((((((((((((((((((((((

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hold up

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so why it's have public

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?

waxen panther
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?

radiant pumice
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why it's public when on only have admin?

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??????????????????????

waxen panther
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what

radiant pumice
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it's public

waxen panther
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this is a server for users of paper/velocity

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those users would be devs and server admins

radiant pumice
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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ok

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i only join to share my map...

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so bye

chrome cosmos
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it is just no one likes being invited to other servers when they are admins to their own ones

edgy palm
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BOi

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i dowloaded 100 gb of gta after 4 yers

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just for it to get infinite loading screen

left swift
void void
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?????????????????

plucky sparrow
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why publick¿¿¿

prisma ridge
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hey i am wondering if the paper has changed dropper seeds

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i neeed to predict it for a little trolling

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is there a way for us to create a tickey

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its urgent

left swift
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no

crystal compass
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wtf is have publics

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ok so my dedi is mounting as read only randomly due to file system errors I believe