whats the point then
#general
marble lark
you get to see the assembly at least
crystal compass
is there a tutorial on reading heap dumps somewhere
marble lark
that's pretty much it
crystal compass
to get to the bottom of a memory leak
sly lark
is there a tutorial on reading heap dumps somewhere
You could look at hprof, or some other tools
YourKit has one as well I think
void void
is there a tutorial on reading heap dumps somewhere
use spark
sly lark
jhat as well, there are plenty of options
void void
do /spark heapsummary
marble lark
inb4 decompiling ida pro in ida pro
the free version tends to explode when you do that
void void
if that isnt conclusive
install MemoryAnalyzer eclipse
do /spark heapdump
and open the heap dump in memory analyser, itll say right to you "leak suspects"
crystal compass
this is what im lookin at
twin lagoon
one question is why are you looking at your heapdump
void void
private github repos be like
void void
this is what im lookin at
lol
marble lark
private github repos be like
ain't just private repos
look at the commit message triangle kneny made when updating Paper
sly lark
crystal compass
one question is why are you looking at your heapdump
this happening every 10 hours, almost https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/685683819608670209/927364801536098374/unknown.png
void void
i was thinking about this in bed last night
what if somehow a chrome update got pushed that wiped the drive of the pc it was installed on
the backupening
void void
what if somehow a firefox update got pushed that wiped the drive of the pc it was installed on
marble lark
what if somehow a firefox update got pushed that wiped the drive of the pc it wa...
why would that even be a thing
sly lark
That's why you never automatically update things, and make sure things are stable before updating
void void
i was thinking about this in bed last night
it doesnt need to make sense
marble lark
though i guess the new minecraft launcher has/had that issue so your imagination isn't that farfetched (At least from what i remember)
sly lark
though i guess the new minecraft launcher has/had that issue so your imagination...
They fixed that pretty fast
marble lark
They fixed that pretty fast
well still doesn't change the fact that it was a thing
sly lark
Yea, true. Shouldn't have existed in the first place. 
marble lark
:P
marble lark
that one doesn't have a decompiler, only disassembly
crystal compass
this seems to be taking the most memory by far out of everything
sly lark
is piracy justified in this case
Work provided license
marble lark
they're the only ones with a decent decompiler of course they'd milk the hell out of it
sly lark
I've tried using other tools, but I always end up back w/ IDA.
Nothing can really compare to it
void void
wait you have licence?
sly lark
I have licenses to quite a few tools
void void
jealous af
charred oracle
for c# .net decompiling?
void void
where do u work
sly lark
Binary Ninja is another one, it's pretty good
sly lark
where do u work
For myself, at my desk
void void
you spent 3k on ida pro licence?
sly lark
Business expense :^)
void void
strong flex
sly lark
Binary Ninja is pretty good too, I bought it not too long ago w/ their student discount (makes it cost $75/year instead of $199/year)
they decompile code to their own IL-ish language
sly lark
and it's still easier to read the Ghidra 
sly lark
I'd still pick IDA any day, but Binary Ninja is better than Ghidra's output by a few hundred miles
but at the end of the day, its personal preference
if you can get used to Ghidra's output and you like it, go for it
sly lark
wait what is IL
intermediate language
void void
is this some c-type language?
sly lark
IL is just an abstraction layer to put it simply
charred oracle
i hate lazarus/free pascal. it is so difficult for me to understand, and my teachers want to teach us that.
I make the things they want me to do in lazarus, for which i literally take 2 weeks, in like 50mins in c# .net
void void
pascal looks ancient
charred oracle
right?
sly lark
Most things that are taught in schools are ancient 🤣
charred oracle
like bro, why pascal
short yarrow
does anyone know how online interpreters prevent people from doing malicious stuff? one idea i've heard is running the code someone writes in a docker container
charred oracle
but our school is upgrading to ssd's and 8GB of ram
sly lark
The high school I attended had an Assembly & robotics programming class, was pretty boring.
void void
this shit literally look like COBOL
sly lark
never seen Python or Java taught in my school(s)
charred oracle
or better said, we go from hdd's and 4gb single-channel ram to ssd's and 8gb dual-channel ram
charred oracle
never seen Python or Java taught in my school(s)
they teach python at my school, but my teacher really wants us to learn pascal
sly lark
My school was stuck in the past, all the machines in the building were ancient IBM Think??? (forget their desktop model names) running Windows XP
sly lark
They've gotten an upgrade since I was there about 10 years ago, my sister was issued a pretty nice modern laptop for her classes
charred oracle
oh wow
sly lark
Went from nothing to something
charred oracle
yea we get laptops on request, but I have a ms surface for school which I bought myself sooo
sly lark
How is the Surface? I looked at them for a bit but decided on getting a new Thinkpad
charred oracle
i have a pro 3
with an i7-4650u bc its a business model
but damn the fan gets loud when i start minecraft
sly lark
Nice. I mainly just use mine to carry around on the go to do some quick work or watch videos
so nothing fancy needed
charred oracle
yea, the only problem i have is the ghost touch issue which is known, and a large portion of the top area of the touchscreen sousnt react sooo
i disabled touch
void void
how is the laptop speed
charred oracle
the laptops are in drive-speed faster than my surface, but as a cpu they have a pentium 5xxx i think
but thats the infos i have from last year, idk the specs of the current laptops they give
void void
i mean how is ur surface
i had a laptop with windows and decent specs but it was slow af, switched to ubuntu on it and its way better
crystal compass
hrm
void void
damn
crystal compass
using 5gb on one server, 10gb on the other. Aikars flags on both
void void
hmm
crystal compass
both have the same issue
void void
is the 5gb the one crashingf?
10gb server, how many players does it have?
whats the render dist
void void
do you have a timings report
void void
view-distance: 12
crystal compass
simulation is only 4 though
charred oracle
10 is enough
crystal compass
I thought the value I had to worry about was the simulation distance that actually handles entities and shit
rather than just the view
void void
well render distance isnt 100% free
- it has to store the chunks in memory, my guess is reducing it would reduce the ram usage signifigantly
i understnad your need for 12 render distnace tho, the fog in 1.18 is attrocious
crystal compass
but really just the view distance can cause this shit to get that bad? haha
lament patio
Yeah, 15 players on 5GB with such a view distance is a little rough
Hm, I have something I'm curious about with that setup ...
crystal compass
will setting it to 8 make a big enough difference so that it wont start lagging severely after 5 hours lmao
lament patio
Can I DM you something? @ Sam
crystal compass
sure
void void
if i wanted to make this request from java
would i write json objects to string seperated by new lines?
or json objects inside a bigger json object
magic river
Looks like JSON Lines format
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by Amaranth - About 184,000,000 results (0.32 seconds)
void void
what are guidelines for final?
should i use final on local variables?
damn thats actually smart
cunning raft
ok
warm anchor
https://timings.aikar.co/?id=2cf7e61dc81448b39b4eeaa01d8df429
reproduce on paper since you are on wrong discord
its very likely you just didnt alocate enough of RAM since you increased your VD to 12
marble lark
should i use final on local variables?
probably not since local variables are usually there to store something that can change
marble lark
what are guidelines for final?
there aren't really any guidelines, most code doesn't actually use final unless absolutely required
i guess if you were fighting for every bit of performance you'd be using final a hell of a lot (javac loves it when you do this) but i doubt you need it in most cases since most Java applications don't need all that extra speed
also Scala isn't the only one to do that, Kotlin also does too for example
worn ember
swift also use var and val
foggy silo
Yea MM, you hear them, it's really sad.
void void
Sad to see 1.8.8 not being updated anymore, but it makes sense we have 1.18.1
??
are you a time traveller from 2014
worn ember
did you know back to the future isn't real, it was just a movie
void void
are you a time traveller from 2014
Lmao I knew I would get backlash but yeah I love 1.8.8 servers more than the newer
warm anchor
ok thanks for informing us
void void
ok thanks for informing us
Np 😋
viscid wedge
Discord terms of service states you must be 13 years of age or greater to posses an account
sly lark
Really unfortunate that 1.8.8 is no longer getting updates, might need to uninstall the game now! 
waxen panther
😂🤣😭😂
daring laurel
.startmc
limber knotBOT
foggy veldt
I wonder what would elicit the strongest reaction, stating you are using 1.8, stating you have a cracked server, or bringing up a political topic
viscid wedge
Where is my support for offline mode 1.8 without a vaccine
swift root
I wonder what would elicit the strongest reaction, stating you are using 1.8, st...
Options 2 and 3 would be about equal in a "please don't" sense, while 1 would probably get you ignored.
chrome cosmos
I wonder what would elicit the strongest reaction, stating you are using 1.8, st...
option 3
magic river
I wouldn't mind taking beta 1.7, adding some of the QoL changes but none of the new content from newer versions, and playing that 😛
QoL stuff like swimming, inventory drag, sneak and sprint toggle, dedicated sprint key, etc
I mean, I like some of the new content but if I said to bring any of it in that'd open up arguments about what was worth keeping
warm anchor
Hypickle don’t run 1.8 though
unkempt drift
1.9+ PvP is better imo
it can be really hard to kill someone in straight vanilla pvp in newer versions
first of all, they can just elytra rocket away. boom easy.
food regen is crazy fast making it hard to kill someone whos just got a ton of food
so I think the newer pvp is better, if you engineer situations where its actually meaningful, cause if everyones decked out in prot 4 netherite armor with tons of food, nothing will happen
silver nexus
1.12 iirc
silver nexus
it can be **really** hard to kill someone in straight vanilla pvp in newer versi...
True, but fights were just underwhelming and too fast in 1.8
in my not very expert opinion
icy jasper
Quick question about servers.
I cant run a server because im behind CGNAT. Now if I want to opt out of this ill still be on IPv4 will it be better to switch to IPv6? Or is this the wrong place to be asking this question
silver nexus
I don't PvP often but when I do I prefer 1.9+
viscid wedge
I wouldn't mind taking beta 1.7, adding some of the QoL changes but none of the ...
Maybe look at TrueCraft?
It's probably expandable
And I think it reached parity already
lavish compass
void void
ËæB6zîøç 😇
{
"world": 1,
"data": {
"tileEntities": [
{
"type": "CHEST"
},
{
"type": "MOB_SPAWNER",
"nbt": "{SpawnData: {entity: {id: \"minecraft:zombie\"}}, MaxNearbyEntities: 6s, MinSpawnDelay: 200s, SpawnRange: 4s, MaxSpawnDelay: 800s, RequiredPlayerRange: 16s, SpawnCount: 4s, Delay: 20s}"
}
]
},
"time": 1640356458413
}```how can i search in arbitrary data like this with elastic search?
anything i try just returns no results
lavish compass
why would you store entities in elastic search
to search for forbidden entities or something?
wheat fiber
how to deploy minecraft server using docker? what i want? i want use github for storing plugins configurations and server configuration. of course secrets must not be stored in github. i want github actions build docker image for my server and on vps just use docker-compose up. i am not found any guides or completely solutions in google. only itzg/minecraft-server but this is not what i want
currently i use tmux on my vps to start minecraft server and editing configs using ssh and vim
twin lagoon
create your own docker image?
seems like you already somewhat know what you're doing
or atleast knowing what you're looking for
minimal effort to just create your own image based off of jdk which is what i'd usually do instead of taking itzg's image
wheat fiber
yeah. image with jdk is my first thought but i paused on step where i want to insert secrets in plugins config. i even create small programm that parses env and insert it into configs, like envsubst but this program created using deno and typescript and it size is ~80mb
i am not able to use envsubst because i want change not one file but full directory
twin lagoon
well, rewrite it into something like bash or python kek
i'd just do a simple find and replace script and look for variables in .yml files
lavish compass
I also have a docker image in case you're interested
twin lagoon
and yes he has some docker images you can base off of for minecraft
just has the jdk + latest server jar
lavish compass
yeah. image with jdk is my first thought but i paused on step where i want to in...
I wouldn't call 80 mb small for a templating program
twin lagoon
i wouldn't include an 80mb typescript app for something that could easily be replaced with a bash script
wheat fiber
I wouldn't call 80 mb small for a templating program
yeah. 80mb isnt small that is the problem. my english isnt very well and i cant describe something very well
lavish compass
sed and awk could probably do the job
twin lagoon
can easily do the job yes
wheat fiber
btw how other peoples organize its minecraft server. i am not believe that tmux/screen is best practice
twin lagoon
tmux
lavish compass
depends on the use case
twin lagoon
either tmux or a panel like pterodactyl is what people will go for
lavish compass
I personally use docker compose for stateful servers and k8s for distributed servers
wheat fiber
either tmux or a panel like pterodactyl is what people will go for
yeah. i know pterodactyl but it looks difficult for deploing
and in pterodactyl no version controll
lavish compass
gitops with pterodactyl 
wheat fiber
ok im going try to create my docker image
lavish compass
make sure that your docker image is "pterodactyl" compatible though
more specifically, your home directory and stuff needs to be matching with what ptero uses
wheat fiber
no. i want to create just docker image not for pterodactyl
marble lark
1.9+ PvP is better imo
it's both better and worse tbh
primal charm
You mistyped "negligible". :)
Oh whoops
Lmao I was sat there like errr what
Who's dog did what lmao
(it's moved from #paper-help)
coarse lily
```json
{
"world": 1,
"data": {
"tileEntities": [
{
...
I'm echoing Cubxity's question here: why are you dumping entities into elastic search?
coarse lily
What?
desert hinge
The reason why I am going for 3600 is because I need a dedi to host few servers
I am just not convineced that 3600 will perform much better with the one I have in pebbelhost
twin lagoon
if you really need to host a reasonable amount of servers, don't really have much of an option to go for other than that server
the 3600 will easily outperform a 4790k
desert hinge
My goal is to have at last 50 players online if 3600 can handle that I will go for it. Because in the future I am looking to run a second server on there
In few weeks actaully
ashen cliff
easily.
Not really, it's kind of close to the limit with basic optimized configs.
left swift
handle
door handle.
meager tusk
> easily.
Not really, it's kind of close to the limit with basic optimized confi...
Krushiç once again shows his intellect.
By the way. Kin appealed.
Where is he?
ashen cliff
Dead bro.
meager tusk
Not that easy to kill Gordan, bro.
void void
```json
{
"world": 1,
"data": {
"tileEntities": [
{
...
you think elastic search will prefer easy data?
in a format like instead
tile entities: { chest, mob spawner, banner: pattern: asd3sd }
frank otter
wait hmm
given that minecraft servers run singlethreaded could I run like six on an right core system and they'd run at the same performance as if I was running just one (ignoring ram speed limitations)
or am I misunderstanding threads entirely
marble lark
TIL you can call non static methods on null in C++ if you don't refer to non static fields in said method
now NullPointerExceptions in Java just look weird to me
plucky sparrow
omg sherman is back
marble lark
given that minecraft servers run singlethreaded could I run like six on an right...
it's more complicated than that
Minecraft has actually become more multithreaded over the years
but it's not as simple as just making everything run in another thread
left swift
dap
radiant horizon
What is the name of this plugin?
vernal moth
radiant horizon
When a player join the max player set to 2
left swift
gluten tag mini
left swift
joke
radiant horizon
gluten tag mini
german?
left swift
no
radiant horizon
ok
radiant horizon
What is the name of this plugin?
So anyone nows that plugin when a player join the max player set to one more
radiant horizon
> sudo python3 Zachi.py
😂
radiant horizon
sad now
rare tiger
fake news
radiant horizon
yea
left swift
I think if you post it a few more times
left swift
what would asking more do if you aren't getting an answer
radiant horizon
nothing
left swift
besides being annoying
radiant horizon
._.
worthy geode
You also would need to provide more info. Do you want it to set the real player slots or just the displayed slots? Do you want that plugin for Paper, Velocity or Bungee?
rare tiger
So anyone nows that plugin when a player join the max player set to one more
idrk why you would want to do this, but just modify ServerListPingEvent ohwaityouwantthistoexistalready
marble lark
> sudo python3 Zachi.py
take my like and fuck off
dawn pond
Any devs here that wanna team up?
marble lark
well what are you planning?
dawn pond
A mine craft server I’m currently learning different mc softwares then ima start plugin dev.
To create custom plugin
plucky sparrow
naomi is banned
marble lark
i meant from discord
golden gust
that wa the discord ban
plucky sparrow
no
golden gust
She got banned from here afterwards
plucky sparrow
she got banned in this discord
golden gust
take my like and fuck off
I thought you said life, and I was like, yes!
and then I noticed it was like
and then I remembered, "oh, cliff yeet exists"
plucky sparrow
i think she sent an inappropriate link
marble lark
I thought you said life, and I was like, yes!
i would appreciate it if you manage to do that
frank otter
sounds like her
plucky sparrow
and got timed out but then ⭐ mods ⭐ made it a ban instead
frank otter
much hate to having to write responsive css
marble lark
and then I remembered, "oh, cliff yeet exists"
yeeting off high areas way more painful than it looks
frank otter
everyone should commit to a 1:1 aspect ratio and be done
marble lark
don't ask me how i know
dawn pond
much hate to having to write responsive css
Me and css are at a disagreement
Idk how to link it
Lol
frank otter
css made me give up on webdev
marble lark
is Ms. Dutch gonna be able to appeal after a while
frank otter
I think I tried using frameworks but they weren't that brilliant
like html is chill, js is pants but frameworks make it bearable
dawn pond
Rn for my website I used monitors
marble lark
webdev is awful
dawn pond
Mobirise
frank otter
css is revolting
dawn pond
And edited the html a bit
frank otter
what's mobirise
dawn pond
Basically it’s a templates
frank otter
.g mobirise
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Mobirise is a freeware web design application, that allows users to create and publish bootstrap websites, without coding. Mobirise is essentially a drag and drop website builder, featuring various website themes. It is headquartered in Eindhoven, Netherlands. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobirise)
frank otter
oh cool I wish css was drag and drop too
but no it's a drag and it drops 3/4 down the page overlapping with every other image
golden gust
left swift
thanks cat
this show and george Lopez were those fever dream shows u woke up to in the middle of the night
golden gust
blame that wasabi guy
I forgot to charge my phone before downing a cup of tea
||now to see how long I can hold out to get some charge in it before I commence a bombing run||
topaz mortar
Eat some salmon with wasabi guy.
golden gust
oh god
there was this woman who hosted a sushi shop nearby where I used to live, she closed it down like a year or so after because she really picked the worse type of place for that store
Used to love going there whenever I could, especially as she was nice
golden gust
godno
left swift
rare tiger
blame that wasabi guy
hey what the fuck did i do
my contributions to the server include
bashing kotlin
- end of list -
left swift
tropic flame
bashing kotlin
based, promote wasabi to project manager
merry orchid
Anyone know or able to make a single plugin that allows a enchant or attribute to a tool to mine in a 3x3(or bigger/smaller) radius?
golden gust
(This discord is also not the place for solicitation)
solid siren
hi guys
what damage indicator u guys using
spiral robin
left swift
mental
magic river
is Ms. Dutch gonna be able to appeal after a while
You mean naomi? I thought she got her account back, what happened now?
topaz mortar
You mean naomi? I thought she got her account back, what happened now?
Thought something worse happened to her, but let's not discuss it here.
void geyser
This is oot but how do i fix vgk.sys without uninstalling valorant. It sucks
Literally bsod'ed twice today
spiral robin
The outrage that would occur if anyone tried to pull some of his stuff now would be hilarious
void geyser
Also, im planning to buy Xbox gamepass, java edition is included right?
golden gust
idk how to feel
golden gust
I was just watching one of those like, old school AMV animation things
and, there was a scene
which showed an elevator, and I was like, "wait, I recognise that one"
worn ember
cant remember what he ate for breakfast but remembers a random ass elevator from an anime
golden gust
To be fair, the aesphetics, and it was my fave anime at one point, so, like
worn ember
worn ember
its the same with my mom, she doesnt remember half the stuff i tell her and the other half she'll never forget lol
void void
what anime is it?
golden gust
Another
worn ember
I think my favorite was Angel Beats lol
golden gust
stop mentioning
worn ember
golden gust
Angel beats was good
void void
oh... okay
golden gust
I mean, to be fair, I was still leaving my emo phase
void void
My favourite was AoT before the ending
sturdy moon
does anyone know about a plugin that adds this "information boxes" to prefixes (and suffixes)?
void void
I no longer have any favourite anime
worn ember
i havent watched anime in 10 years
back in my day it was super weird to be into anime lol
golden gust
To think
void void
i havent watched anime in 10 years
You're not missing much except increase in animation quality
golden gust
now practically everybody knows what it is
worn ember
yeah
golden gust
to be fair, DED
void void
back in my day it was super weird to be into anime lol
Now you're weird for not liking Naruto
golden gust
it wasn't that you liked Anime
void void
I don't like Naruto and all of my friends like Naruto :/
golden gust
it was cos you ran like a fucking weirdo
worn ember
i never did that though
golden gust
no, but, memes, and the people that did 😄
worn ember
true
void void
I didn't know anime other than Bakugan years ago
golden gust
Dw peeps
golden gust
the good news is that netflix will "adopt" all of your fave anime classes into live action series
worn ember
i grew up with pokemon, digimon, yu gi oh
golden gust
Then again, they may be giving up after bebop lol
worn ember
i never liked pokemon tho
golden gust
Beyblade
worn ember
oh yeah that too
golden gust
That was my siblings like sticker
it was 'eh
the older pokemons where okay
Then it got done up for the next generation and just noooope
worn ember
i still have a Brother Bear poster on my wall 
void void
I have never watched or played Pokemon in my childhood
So I have zero nostalgia about it
golden gust
edgy palm
as my sperm donor used to say to my birth giver
i hav doubt do u mean dad and mom just to clarify
golden gust
basically, yes
void void
Wait
edgy palm
ok.
void void
Orange can ping
edgy palm
i was confues
edgy palm
cuz im pro
golden gust
they disabled the mention thing
void void
oh
void void
they disabled the mention thing
okay
void void
they disabled the mention thing
How can I disable mention ping permanently?
golden gust
You can't
edgy palm
idk if you can
frank otter
you can't
golden gust
shift click reply
worn ember
you cant, cuz discord
golden gust
or, just don't reply
void void
shift click reply
mobile
golden gust
I mean, I learned the art of reading chat
without needing to be replied to with every single message
worn ember
very cool
worn ember
frank otter
does talking about discord plugins violate a rule
void void
Probably
edgy palm
SuSi
void void
Since the guild is verified
worn ember
existing violates a lot of rules already
void void
does talking about discord plugins violate a rule
wait, why it would break a rule?
void void
existing violates a lot of rules already
what
frank otter
discord don't allow modifications to the client by TOS
edgy palm
existing violates a lot of rules already
*only some people existing
void void
discord don't allow modifications to the client by TOS
Stupid rule imo
frank otter
yeah some of the addons are quite nice imo
chrome cosmos
yeahh
frank otter
I don't use them because my potato pc doesn't like nodejs
worn ember
just dont mention you have them and they cant do shit 
chrome cosmos
laughs in 19 plugins
frank otter
but I've seen some of the themes and they are much better than default
edgy palm
how can u say that is me
void void
that read all is th best
exposed
void void
I would not recommend openly talking about that here
chrome cosmos
but I've seen some of the themes and they are much better than default
yeahh
worn ember
people have been banned for it im pretty sure lol cuz some dickhead reported them
void void
There have been people who got reported by some random lurker in chat ^
frank otter
I forget how big this discord is
chrome cosmos
alex's theme rocks but the gpu usage eats up 50 %
worn ember
10k people and probably 9k bots
golden gust
god
void void
10k people and probably 9k bots
30
golden gust
I remember when this place was a dainty little IRC channel
void void
I forget how big this discord is
PaperMC cool server optimization and modification
golden gust
and upstream merges where basically me, aikar and taco man tag teaming
edgy palm
30k bot
void void
Max 30 members are chatting
worn ember
may Z rest in peace
frank otter
who was Z
worn ember
Z750
edgy palm
discord IS VERY BAD i cant use banner without nitro
edgy palm
also can u unban my main i changed my status
worn ember
he was core team
void void
also can u unban my main i changed my status
Ban evasion is against the rules…
void void
What kind of status do you even have to get banned lol
worn ember
ban jroy for encouraging ban evasion
worn ember
lmao
edgy palm
~~the status was related to politics, which is why he banned them~~
yes||no||
void void
The text below your name in the members list
oh
mine is simple
no status
no about me
only companion cube
chrome cosmos
only companion cube
politics
worn ember
mine is just links
edgy palm
now who will unban me
void void
wait, where did you guys get portal companion cube emoji?
hearty spear
worn ember
1.18 world gen is so slow 
void void
now who will unban me
Fill out the form on the site I guess
void void
1.18 world gen is so slow <:sad:768988901188567051>
Sodium
hearty spear
i was getting about 50 CPS on world gen with chunky
void void
wait, where did you guys get portal companion cube emoji?
am on mobile so can’t see it without sending it
ShareX apparently
void void
does that work on server?
oh, my bad
worn ember
now you dig down 10 blocks and you fall 50 blocks
void void
lol
short yarrow
does anyone know how online interpreters prevent people from doing malicious stuff? one idea i've heard is running the code someone writes in a docker container
chrome cosmos
????
worn ember
looks pretty swell though
worn ember
does anyone know how online interpreters prevent people from doing malicious stu...
what you're saying makes no sense
still cant believe this made it into the game tho lmao
and it just killed itself
rare tiger
does anyone know how online interpreters prevent people from doing malicious stu...
like tryit sandboxes? yeah definitely some kind of containerization, or better yet emulate it clientside if possible
frank otter
does anyone know how online interpreters prevent people from doing malicious stu...
I think they either emulate it or run it as an unpriveledged user
short yarrow
like tryit sandboxes? yeah definitely some kind of containerization, or better y...
yeah basically tryit sandboxes
worn ember
if you gotta question if its legit or not then dont run it 
frank otter
99% of the ones I've heard of I think have no intenet access either
frank otter
online sandbox where all the code is sent to ded for manual review before being run
rare tiger
bring back java browser applets
worn ember
lol
rare tiger
and undeprecate marquee too why not
worn ember
no thats illegal
frank otter
I'm not sure I agree with the applets sentiment but yes bring back marquee
worn ember
STYLING SHOULD BE DONE BY CSS
rare tiger
no thats illegal
you can't delete my propoganda if it's scrolling sideways at lightspeed
frank otter
it was one of the first html tags I learnt and I remember making the entirety of Google scroll upwards
how does searching for d in rofi bring up Youtube music
native wolf
search algorithm go brr
rare tiger
thats crazy
short yarrow
is containerization a pretty important thing to know in this day and age?
rare tiger
it's a lot of overhead and only good in specific scenarios
native wolf
is containerization a pretty important thing to know in this day and age?
I would say yes
rare tiger
unpopular opinion: don't need docker if you simply daily drive linux 🤓
frank otter
i use both docker and linux
crystal compass
anyone know why rsnapshot is spamming me with "cannot create hardlink" to my remote onedrive
native wolf
Docker on Windows is disgusting
rare tiger
setting up your environment is only a single aptitude command away
worn ember
im such an asshat in my comments lol
rare tiger
# make a program that sucks your dick
import random
native wolf
Interesting program
rare tiger
always import random
frank otter
help I wrapped discord in a marquee tag and now it's gone
rare tiger
help I wrapped discord in a marquee tag and now it's gone
call toll free number on screen, press bindows key and letter r type in "iexplore"
frank otter
is that a start Internet explorer thing
rare tiger
7gb of swap 
ok
golden gust
I mean
hearty spear
i dont use it really lol
meager tusk
unpopular opinion: don't need docker if you simply daily drive linux 🤓
Can you imagine
crystal compass
anyone know why rsnapshot is spamming me with "cannot create hardlink" to my remote onedrive
meager tusk
golden gust
unpopular opinion: don't need docker if you simply daily drive linux 🤓
not sure if trolling or dense
remote
hardlink
meager tusk
Yeah imagine using linux as a daily driver
hearty spear
7gb of swap <:thonk:463842968097521675> ok
what should i have more or something?
hearty spear
i dont hibernate the computer any
worn ember
bruh you didnt have to take my onedrive suggestion serious
golden gust
the FS that onedrive emulates doesn't support hardlinks
rare tiger
not sure if trolling or dense
ever since I rode a boogey board down the stairs as a kid I was destined to troll a fringe server with 2 members
crystal compass
well one drive gave me a TB for 8$ only a month
frank otter
turns out discord doesn't like being wrapped in a marquee tag
chrome cosmos
school gives that for free
hearty spear
i got 8TB for $200
worn ember
school gives that for free
they changing that
rare tiger
hardware shortage really be like
crystal compass
Will soft links work
crystal compass
myb thought you might know
golden gust
if you wanna use sane shit you'd be better off using some storage service specifically designed for backups or just storing shit on there
rare tiger
the onedrive discord is best for that 🙃
crystal compass
lmao
worn ember
rubba uploaded 107TB of rickrolls to his schools onedrive to check if it was really unlimited lol
worn ember
he still owes DO 900dollar and just dipped
chrome cosmos
he still owes DO 900dollar and just dipped
lelll
chrome cosmos
that dude is ultra pog
golden gust
though, most of them are
worn ember
did he get called up? 😄
no but he did it over DO's network and the fees racked up
golden gust
Like, you often can only top up by like $5 bucks or some stupid increment
and so, if you accidently forget to kill a VM, by the end of the month if you go over your allowance, you've now got a debt, often times like a buck or two
chrome cosmos
whut is DO?
worn ember
and now they're changing it to no longer be free by the end of febuari in 2022 no clue if he had anything to do with it but like probably
golden gust
and it's like, if you wanna pay that off to shut them up, you gotta toss a 5 on there
worn ember
yeah thats really annoying
golden gust
DO does apparently refund you after a few months without using their platform
got my nice juicy buck and a bit back
frank otter
stupid question: if I had multiple servers continuously exchanging data between them would establishing a tcpstream between the two and yeeting like JSON be better or worse than making them http request each others apis
worn ember
i just pay my invoices from Hetzner directly through paypal
golden gust
Use a message broker
worn ember
gotta do it every month but at least i dont gotta put money in the wallet
rare tiger
using hetzner 👀 better be a huge server
worn ember
its the cheapest ass VPS there is lmao
rare tiger
sys standing for
frank otter
wait so message brokers act like a nice buffer doing things like format translation and caching until back online
what if i don't need that
golden gust
SoYouStart
twin lagoon
and it's like, if you wanna pay that off to shut them up, you gotta toss a 5 on ...
just link your card and never manually top up
rare tiger
? i use ovhcloud :(
golden gust
I mean, this was like a few years back or somethin
twin lagoon
digitalocean is great nowadays
frank otter
and i just want two servers to exchange information on-demand in the same format and it doesn't matter if one is offline because of the way its designed
worn ember
my invoices are just 3 bucks lul
frank otter
also if I use http(s) requests, is there a way to establish that a request actually came from where it says it is coming from
golden gust
Well, I mean
void void
add some sort of auth token?
worn ember
well thats what certificates are for no
golden gust
In part, TCP is kinda what assures that
otherwise, you get into encryption/signing stuff, etc
frank otter
welp gpg it is
worn ember
i wouldn't worry about that, just whitelist ip's instead
frank otter
i might be completely wrong but iirc there might be a way to construct a tcp package in such a way it has someone else's ip as the origin ip
golden gust
well
TCP requires back and forth
So, like, if they can do that, they probs have control over the full network
worn ember
frank otter
even if i don;t care about a response
worn ember
tcp cares about it
frank otter
what's SYN? ack is acknowledge right
worn ember
syncronize? not 100% sure
void void
synchronization ^
frank otter
oh ok that makes sense
new pet peeve: the main discord window doesn't start in the same place that the loader/updater finished
left swift
who would want to handshake you ded
worn ember
austere ivy
why is hypixel skywars map in the background
also ok why am I blue this is terrible where’s my old prune color
:(
worn ember
gone
i wonder if there is a feasible way to hibernate a mc server without making it lag like this plugin does
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/hibernate.4441/
like just suspend the entire state or something
frank otter
hibernate the host machine
golden gust
nope
The entire game is stateful and dependant on stuff ticking
Like, plugins like that fuck up so much
worn ember
yeah i figured
golden gust
there are probs some improvements one can do for empty servers
e.g. wakeup in the spin wait less often
fix whatever the fuck caused CB to disable the world sleeping stuff
or, well, not CB, upstream
worn ember
fair
left swift
worn ember
wtf people taking my job
plucky sparrow
plucky sparrow
Last time I checked Skript required a few hundred dependencies in order to be useful
@worn ember how many dependencies does that require lmao
left swift
so does ded
worn ember
<@208641151509463051> how many dependencies does that require lmao
i dont even know how to use skript
plucky sparrow
You get Skript (the plugin) and then, the few hundred dependencies it needs
omg it’s Skript-only??
golden gust
remember to get skript reflections
or whatever it was called
Cos, nothing says "fucking moronic" as much as using skript to reflect into server internals and shit
void void
<https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/randomtp-skript.14980/>
updated 13 minutes ago
plucky sparrow
Don’t wanna miss that SkQuery
void void
is that like jQuery but skript?
void void
humanity truely is doomed
spiral robin
@void void 
void void
@spiral robin best aberdeener
twin lagoon
@spiral robin dont pepelove him
it's him or me .
spiral robin
😭
void void
wow, how rude
jolly schooner
:3
proven coral
Hello, I am having an issue, i can't connect to my paper server, nor can I load my dynamp. I just changed computer. My friends are currently online but i'm the only one not able to connect to any of those. Could anyone possibly help? I already tried updating java and disabling temporarily my firewall
frank otter
are you running the client & server on the same machine?
proven coral
I am not sure what the client is. But the computer I try to play with is not the same one the server is on
frank otter
oh ok, the client is the thing you play with
proven coral
When i try to login with another third computer, it works
I am able to connect to mineplex though
twin lagoon
mineplex is both
proven coral
It just is my own server and dynmap
frank otter
wait whats a dynmap
plucky sparrow
The online map website thing
frank otter
.g minecraft dynmap
void void
Dynmap®️
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://dev.bukkit.org/projects/dynmap
frank otter
oh interesting
proven coral
It can't identify the server, when i try to connect to it it says 'failed to connect to the server'
It seems like i can't reach my own public IP
plucky sparrow
Is the server on your same network
frank otter
can you connect to the server with the local ip
proven coral
Is the server on your same network
Yes
plucky sparrow
Yeah try using the local ip
proven coral
It does not work either
😦
Is there a possibility that i my computer blocks access to the ports?
I know they are fowarded on my router, but maybe for some reason my computer denies them
plucky sparrow
Port forwarding is only for people in other networks
It allows them to connect to your server
You should be able to log in the server through the local ip though
proven coral
My local ip is the one showed in ipconfig right?
plucky sparrow
It should likely start with 192.168…
proven coral
Ah i forgot to mention, my wifi is through an ASUS wifi usb key
frank otter
yeah, you want the local ip of the server
proven coral
ok yeah I tried with local and it did not work
frank otter
i dont think how you get the wifi should matter as long as you are connected to your router
plucky sparrow
Indeed
proven coral
OH maybe it is because i am on a guest network?
frank otter
what is a guest network
plucky sparrow
Could be
worn ember
you gotta be in the same network obviously
proven coral
But i used to play with my public IP
that i can't reach even on another network
Let me try to change networks
worn ember
well if your router is using DHCP your ip can change
plucky sparrow
I mean, their friends can connect
proven coral
Ok so i went to a non-guest network and it works now
plucky sparrow
It has likely not changed
proven coral
with the public IP
worn ember
usually you cant connect to your own routers public ip from locally but some routers do allow it
so idk
frank otter
usually you cant connect to your own routers public ip from locally but some rou...
wait wot
this is everything i do ever
golden gust
reverse NAT, as it's so called
Some routers support it, some don't
All depends on the routing setup, etc
worn ember
i know mine doesn't and i've torn my hair out over it years back lol
proven coral
I used my guest network to set up a specific band (2,4) because my ASUS key won't detect 5 ghz, and band steering makes me lose internet
golden gust
.ded
steel girder
Does anyone know a plugin that regens ores after they are broken like the hypixel skyblock mines ?
worn ember
hah
golden gust
Would it be wrong to add https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBS_Ukbe2Vk for ded?
worn ember
plucky sparrow
Yes please
worn ember
that would be cyber bullying
plucky sparrow
It’s ded so it’s fine
frank otter
Would it be wrong to add <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBS_Ukbe2Vk> for ded?
if this was a democracy I would vote yes
golden gust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aKuVAtYgv4 - enjoy this instead
hahahahaaa, I did a squirrel
worn ember
seen it
golden gust
worn ember
bruh
frank otter
my computers ram is having a hard time trying to render that image
plucky sparrow
Cat is truly a psychopath
worn ember
i get annoyed the moment i cant read what tabs are anymore
plucky sparrow
He reminds me of a librarian
but with videos
Can pull out a video for every situation
worn ember
my video collection is mostly nsfw
prime coral
frank otter
why is there no bonk emoji
worn ember
frank otter
it gets the job done
twin lagoon
@warm anchor STOP the weebening
frank otter
let the weebening continue i want to see how it will end
arctic cargo
twin lagoon
because it does not exist
mossy vessel
🔫 the de-weebifier 2000
twin lagoon
no-tick view distance is view-distance in server.properties
normal view distance is simulation-distance in server.properties
twin lagoon
surprisingly, no
https://is.paper.sexy/ViewDistance.png @cosmic raft can we get a slash command for this
crystal lilyBOT
twin lagoon
hot
austere ivy
it’s beautiful
cosmic raft
leaf woke up
yeah, and I'm mary poppins
left swift
hollow swan
Is there a good terrain generating plugin for servers? I don't want fancy random terrain, I just want to generate the world that is already started out to a certain point before users get on, to make it faster to move around so it doesn't need to be randomly generated while players are playing.
calm isle
i personally have been using chunky and it works well
raven cypress
Why should i compile my plugin with maven and not with build-artifacts?
golden gust
because build-artifacts is not a portable system
nor do we support anything outside of a sane build tool
raven cypress
i mean i can download libraries from mvn and build with build-artifacts
rare tiger
should just be mvn clean, compile, jar
golden gust
use whatever the heck you want
rare tiger
or shadowJar
golden gust
Just, if you decide to go with non-standard tooling, don't expect support for any issues you run into
hollow swan
i personally have been using chunky and it works well
I forgot about chunky.. seems like it crashed sometimes, but usually went ok.
rare tiger
or reobfJar if cring gradle paperweight thingamagig
grand pewter
I forgot about chunky.. seems like it crashed sometimes, but usually went ok.
most crashes at this point that I've seen are related to corrupt chunks existing in the world
but if you see errors, as always, try to report them (probably to the plugin first though)
hollow swan
most crashes at this point that I've seen are related to corrupt chunks existing...
I was using a terraform plugin.
grand pewter
or custom gen, sure
void void
Does anyone know how to stop sending block breaking sound packets?
void void
leaf woke up
rare tiger
Does anyone know how to stop sending block breaking sound packets?
ProtocolLib was made for this
Although idk if the sound is specifically networked or if the client infers it when a block is broken
You can just not break blocks and do #setType(Material.AIR) but then you won't get particles or anything, IDK your approach will entirely depend on what you want
worthy geode
considering even entity ambient sounds are sent individually im pretty sure the block break sound is as well
void void
ProtocolLib was made for this
I tried, but when using "NAMED_SOUND_EFFECT" any sounds of interaction with blocks are played
rare tiger
I wouldn't know since I haven't tried to do this, but there has to be some property specific to block breaking sounds that you can filter for
After all if the packets were the same they would do the same thing
Not helpful I know
void void
;(((
rare tiger
Also more like a #paper-dev question
worthy geode
Block break sounds are hardcoded, so they don't use the named_sound_effect packet, but the normal, old sound effect (0x5D)
void void
thanks for the support, I'll try to do something
jagged egret
Does anyone know why Discord would start on startup even after disabling that option?
golden gust
oh, is eyesore
check your OSes startup stuff
sometimes apps blow chunks at removing themselves from that stuff
jagged egret
Ah yeah I just found it, it was in a config folder on Ubuntu
limber knotBOT
gotta love them not stating anything about revenue share as far as I can tell 👀
worn ember
well so much for uploading to spigot
limber knotBOT
isn't the limit 5MB?
worn ember
4MB iirc
fallen oracle
4.5
worn ember
fallen oracle
If it's not premium you can just link it external.
worn ember
yeah but then i gotta host it
limber knotBOT
just use github releases 
fallen oracle
Throw up a Jenkins instance?
worn ember
its already running jenkins
fallen oracle
Or just an nginx instance if you want to go old-school
golden gust
nginx
fallen oracle
You can just link the archived jars then
south matrix
someone removed my throw up reaction
golden gust
that's called apache
south matrix
travesty
fallen oracle
Old school as in throw them on a webserver
worn ember
bruh why can non logged in users see accounts on the jenkins instance
true canyon
I don't think jenkins is designed with anything public in mind, still.
fallen oracle
Nexus instances can see the IP an artifact was uploaded from without logging in
It's been complained about for so long and they won't provide anything to fix it.
worn ember
lmao
well ig i could make a frontend that uses the jenkins api to list stuff
but that would be effort you know
true canyon
I've been scream-testing my repo for a few months now, because of that and the constant need to keep updating nexus.
mossy vessel
Or you fix your permission setup or don't care about it or err
void void
*Nexus instances can see the IP an artifact was uploaded from without logging in...
and this is why reposilite is superior
worn ember
i cant even find the permissions