ugh
#general
golden gust
.wa 1gbp in usd
frank otter
is there a point at which a lighter is no longer a lighter and is now a blowtorch
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Result: $1.35 (US dollars) (December 31, 2021) - https://is.gd/659XcE
potent fossil
they used to call those jet lighters
frank otter
wait what
golden gust
or even a glorified car ciggy lighter
golden gust
basically high voltage tip
limber knotBOT
golden gust
i.e. kinda like a taser basically 😄
void void
(DiscordBot) Result: $1.35 (US dollars) (December 31, 2021) - https://is.gd/659X...
damn
potent fossil
mfw differentiating between fire, a plasma, and plasma, a plasma.
golden gust
I defo wouldn't use one, but, they exist
void void
is that because money printer orr
frank otter
so it's like electronic ignition but it cuts the bit where we set gas on fire out
void void
because uk economy has been being ass raped by corona for ages
golden gust
I mean, our eco has been kinda sucky
frank otter
didn't we have like either negative or ridiculously high inflation at one point
golden gust
and, like, 40% of y'alls currency was printed in the last year or so
void void
yeah joe really wanted to save the stonk market
coarse lily
yeah joe really wanted to save the stonk market
No politics
frank otter
how are we expected to send help
magic river
Those cheap ones with an adjustable flame height if you take the metal shield off the top you can lift the wheel and move it back to the start then turn it up a second time
frank otter
wait what is that image domain
potent fossil
let it happen
golden gust
a second time
magic river
Repeat 5 times and make an 8 inch flame
frank otter
how long is 8 inches
golden gust
Enough to remove your eyebrows when you grab the wrong lighter
magic river
.wa 8 inches in cm
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Result: 20.32 cm (centimeters) - https://is.gd/mz4CcN
frank otter
that's quite impressive
short yarrow
what causes the messages to be temporarily out of sync sometimes on discord? is it because of the small delay when receiving messages?
magic river
When I was a teen the story was if you left the flame on too long when it was that high the lighter would explode
I guess because it overheated and melted the plastic enough for it to vent
frank otter
wanna try that
magic river
Never heard of it happening though so might just be bullshit
frank otter
I've been playing with lighters all evening anyway so my room already reeks of gas
void void
idk if this has been asked before
coarse lily
Never heard of it happening though so might just be bullshit
Half the shit kids say is bullshit
void void
but do you think log4j would have worked on mojang at one point?
like their auth server
magic river
Use Strength on the truck outside the SS Anne
magic river
but do you think log4j would have worked on mojang at one point?
Yes 😛
void void
is mojangs auth server closed source?
magic river
Dunno if it's written in Java these days but way back when it was
void void
i feel like it should be open source, the token name check thing that happened last year or so seems pretty obvious
brave radish
is mojangs auth server closed source?
well, yea, why would they make a closed source game and decide to open up the auth server of all things
magic river
I guess by the time the game started using log4j2 though the server stuff was a different team so there would be no reason to assume it would switch as well
Server might have been using logback or log4j 1.x
golden gust
I mean
they just need to rewrite a lot of that crap
part of the MSA migration is because they didn't wanna touch that stack
void void
there was an exploit with gamepass that would let you mint fresh mc accounts for free
seems kinda dum
coarse lily
Maybe they can rewrite it in perl
void void
microsoft integration doesnt make it any easier
golden gust
I mean
void void
Maybe they can rewrite it in perl
why perl
golden gust
that was actually intentional
void void
to get ppl to buy gamepass :troll:
whats that programming language thats mathematically proven
uses proofs like can never have a bug
void void
nah its something else i think
vernal moth
I dont remember
magic river
potent fossil
oh no
true canyon
Discord question: If you have new users start only with permission to view a channel only staff can view, does that prevent bots from seeing the rest of the user list for PM spam?
foggy silo
No
little frost
pretty sure you can always see the list of users through the api just like you can see the list of all channels, even if theyre locked
foggy silo
Correct they can still dm people
See user gating, i believe discord is expanding on it and it prevents people from messaging mutual members until they are “approved”.
true canyon
Hilarious.
vernal moth
didnt discord fix the userlist thing?
little frost
oh yeah if you haven't passed the gating stuff you're technically not a part of the server and can't dm ppl as you don't share a server
coarse lily
Yeah the API exposes a bunch of stuff because discord doesn’t really handle ACLs
true canyon
could drop the last two words of that sentence, ocelot
coarse lily
Channel names, all channel topics, etc.
void void
idk if this is ok to ask, but does anyone know any places i can connect with builders? looking to have something built(not asking for anyone here's services)
twin lagoon
builder's refuge discord iirc
limber trout
Is 1.18 paper stable enough to use now?
twin lagoon
yes
magic river
Probably something in #community-guilds
limber trout
Is 1.18 paper stable enough to use now?
Do there isnt a risk of corruption anymore? Or?
magic river
If nothing else syscraft might know where to send you
twin lagoon
the only useful discord for that would be helpchat
but i would definitely try builder's refuge first
void void
do you hire a sole person or a team, idk how this works
magic river
There is always a risk of corruption
twin lagoon
do you hire a sole person or a team, idk how this works
whatever you want / fits in your budget
void void
what are the budgets like
magic river
Upgrading from 1.17.1 build 300 to 1.17.1 build 301 has a risk of corruption
limber trout
There is always a risk of corruption
Fair...
twin lagoon
that depends on the builder you choose
void void
tens, hundreds, thousands?
twin lagoon
ranges from $50 to $500000
void void
dam
magic river
I don't think anyone has mentioned a corruption issue with 1.18.1 in the past few days though
limber trout
Imma upgrade my 13gb world to 1.18.1
void void
just a spawn about 512 by 512 i'd say
twin lagoon
probably less than $500
magic river
Just, you know, backups and etc
twin lagoon
look at mcmarket for builders, builder's refuge & helpchat for discord servers
void void
is there any kind of buyers protection, like lets say they started making it and i decided their building style wasnt working
mcmarket?
twin lagoon
other than paying 50% first, no
void void
alright
twin lagoon
and describe what you want clearly before purchasing
most will be able to do some initial design first before wasting time on it
golden gust
I mean, shit like that is why you talk to them and review their shit first
magic river
They're still doing the work, if you don't like it you can try to get them to fix it which may or may not involve paying them more
twin lagoon
communication is key
foggy silo
Man orange Michael… 😩
twin lagoon
i know @cosmic raft hates me
move sponsor under notable so i get some form of pink back 😔
twin lagoon
technically they can
but copyright is the last thing you'd want to worry about in minecraft
void void
🤨 🤨
magic river
Technically Mojang has the right to do whatever they want with that build you're paying them for
twin lagoon
as soon as it's in your hands you're generally free to do whatever with it aslong as it abides with mojang's eula/tos
void void
alright
magic river
And they'd still have the right to say they made it and showcase it
Whether they have the right to sell it to someone else or not is something you need to set terms for
By default for this kind of work I'm pretty sure the creator keeps all rights and is just letting you use it
So you would need to be explicit about that not being a thing if you're worried about it
lol, I'm sliding my socked feet across the floor trying to get my shitty chair to wheel out from my desk so I can answer the door
Forgot I can push off the desk now
My old one was on wheels so I'd just slam it in to the wall
potent fossil
socked feet
magic river
I don't walk around the house like that, I have slippers, but I take them off when I'm at my desk
potent fossil
Respectable
Hm, this is odd
Making a directory tree with JavaFX, and it tried to read /root which obv my user does not have access to
I expect a SecurityException for that...but, it's giving NPE. Not on listFiles() but on trying to loop the result of listFiles()
Nvm I'm just dumb
plucky sparrow
it was time you realised
potent fossil
someone was being unnecessarily rude to me on reddit so i went to their profile and clicked the "get them help and support" button
void void
the what
potent fossil
it sends you a bunch of self help stuff like numbers you can call in a crisis
plucky sparrow
you can do that..?
fallen oracle
What does the notifications look like
void void
that sounds horribly broken
void void
What does the notifications look like
wanna find out 
potent fossil
You get a DM from u/reddit with something like "A fellow redditor asked us to check in on you ..." and a bunch of self help resources
plucky sparrow
wanna find out <:pepela:915710830471970886>
i can help you find out 
twin lagoon
weebs
potent fossil
Not sure exactly
But in any case, that person needs some help cause they were way too worked up raging at me over animal control
coarse lily
Doesn’t abusing a feature designed for people actually worried about someone just so you can off someone who disagreed with you kind of make you the asshole too?
potent fossil
Sure why not
potent fossil
It kind of implies that a give a shit, which I don't
floral mesa
wait, what over animal control?
potent fossil
Some people kept feeding a fox and keeps showing up to a parking lot to get fed, which is not good. It'll lose its ability to hunt effectively, or it'll bring its skulk to the lot, or property may get damaged, or god forbid a human life gets lost because idiots don't realize it's a w i l d a n i m a l and not a puppy or something. So I said call animal control. And this person just showed up to rage at me about animal control euthanizing animals and a bunch of other shit, which of course is sad but not my point so I don't care. And they just wanted to keep going
So I told em to fuck off and sent helpful resources.
left swift
<@!121769553603723265> https://owo.whats-th.is/8sBtWUc.png
get owned
potent fossil
k
potent fossil
it popped up and i just clicked accept to make it go away
plucky sparrow
oh
potent fossil
magic river
ancient bolt
anyone ever got a unifi controller set up with a tls cert?
I followed all the steps, updated the keystore, but somehow it's still serving me the self-signed certificate, which shouldn't be possible since I replaced it in the keystore
magic river
Always wanted a unifi setup, went with some dd-wrt gear instead since unifi would be massively overkill unless I want to do the cameras and doorbell and such
unifi is the cheapest way to get a turnkey solution for home security that doesn't involve a cloud service
coarse lily
IMO their cameras and doorbells aren’t the best choice.
But yeah it’s cheap if you have the other hardware.
cosmic raft
anyone ever got a unifi controller set up with a tls cert?
I have, yes
magic river
At least last time I was looking in to it
cosmic raft
what did you follow?
ancient bolt
basing it off of this script https://github.com/stevejenkins/unifi-linux-utils/blob/master/unifi_ssl_import.sh
keytool -list -keystore /usr/lib/unifi/data/keystore
shows 1 cert, alias unifi, created today
cosmic raft
and you restarted the controller?
cosmic raft
pretty sure
what is the controller running on - os?
ancient bolt
debian 9. It's a cloudkey gen2
cosmic raft
hm
wonder if cloudkeys handle it differently
I've always hosted my UniFi controller in the cloud though, no experience with CloudKeys
ancient bolt
one super annoying thing is I can't change the hostname on the controller
changing them normally is overwritten on reboot
and the config field in the settings for controller hostname was either removed entirely or moved somewhere obscure
cosmic raft
cloudkey something new you got?
ancient bolt
what?
cosmic raft
is the cloudkey something new you purchased?
ancient bolt
no I've had it for years
cosmic raft
ah
ancient bolt
there used to be a hostname setting in the settings page
with the rewrite it's now gone afaict
cosmic raft
annoying
ancient bolt
you can specify the inform hostname but that's not the same thing
but none of that should really matter
yeah I have no clue. I can't imagine that /etc/ssl/private/unifi.keystore.jks is the wrong keystore
so idk what else needs to be done here
checked in firefox to see if chrome was caching the cert, but doesn't seem to be the case
yeah definitely the right file, defined in /etc/default/unifi
guess it's just magic, should probably stop trying to figure this out when clearly it's not following any known laws of physics
merry talon
see that's the problem, you should use thermodynamics instead
ancient bolt
jfc okay found this script which actually works https://get.glennr.nl/unifi/update/unifi-update.sh
not gonna question it, it works, I'm done
merry talon
dear lord that must've taken a while to write
ancient bolt
and now all I gotta do is add that script invocation to a deploy hook on letsencrypt and then I'm done, finally
left swift
short yarrow
are VPNs for privacy and VPNs used to connect to a network to access something different? like sometimes you would need to use a VPN to connect to a network before you can SSH into a server
left swift
no
short yarrow
like they use the same term, but seem different
left swift
one you would host and setup yourself
the other u can use some random service
thats teh difference
twin lagoon
the same term can be used for both usecases
magic river
Guessing you're mixing repos or you're installing an "all" package that depends on something arch specific that hasn't built for mips (yet?)
Although things missing like that for mips aren't a release blocker I don't think so it might just never be installable
golden gust
VPN i just for a virtual private network, proper use case is basically to connect to another LAN network somewhere, basically; i.e. connecting to resources at work from home over a secure connection without them having to expose too much more
magic river
It's the same tech either way
It's just how you use it that's different
That reminds me, I should really get a VPN set up on my router
red timber
where
viscid wedge
I don't think I'm supposed to talk about the specifics, it was discussed in this channel earlier today
red timber
log4j again?
magic river
Minecraft
Update your server
I think they only fixed 1.17.1 and 1.18.1 for this one though
warm anchor
yeah older version isnt supported
minor matrix
Is there any voxelsniper version that works with 1.18 build height?
muted river
Which web-hosting application for Ubuntu would be recommended?
...Apache2, NGINX, or a better alternative to the both?
magic river
Depends on what you're doing but when in doubt go with nginx
muted river
Depends on what you're doing but when in doubt go with nginx
Pre generic mc website.
zenith lodge
Yeah nginx is good
muted river
Just a bunch of info like rules, map embeds, etc
potent fossil
GitHub Pages.
🚶
magic river
If it's all static stuff caddy would be a good choice too
It's a batteries included kind of thing, it does a lot of stuff for you with almost no config
merry talon
Can 100% vouch for caddy
sly lark
If it's all static stuff caddy would be a good choice too
+1 for Caddy.
Very nice for basic things and getting things done fast
muted river
I think I'll use caddy because of it's ease of reverse proxy
merry talon
nginx is a bit antiquated now
magic river
Oh yeah it's much faster than caddy
But caddy is plenty fast and I doubt this is some facebook-scale stuff
dawn pond
guys
short yarrow
what prevents people from just sending packets to a game server to get what they want?
dawn pond
is anyone familiar with hetzner
dawn pond
what prevents people from just sending packets to a game server to get what they...
ddos prot
dawn pond
what prevents people from just sending packets to a game server to get what they...
I got ddosed before by some guys not fun
u just buy that domain
then set ur ip on it
and give that domain ddos protection
so its becomes
from
short yarrow
not packets to block traffic, but sending packets to get items for example
dawn pond
ddos prot
they cnat find the ip
if you use a domain
teh connection changes from
CLIENT----> SERVER
to
CLIENT---->PROTECTION-----> SERVER
so if they ping the domain you use
all they would get is some random ip
that changes every thirty min
due to protection
or thirty sec im not sure
This ultimately means they wont have the actual ip to send anything
coarse lily
not packets to block traffic, but sending packets to get items for example
For an offline mode server? Not a lot.
But the auth servers prevent random requests. If you auth against Mojang first you can send packets to do game stuff. That's what third party clients do.
The game will stop a rando from being in creative mode, though.
Or something like that.
You can't /give yourself stuff with packets.
short yarrow
Okay I see that's interesting. What I was more interested in is what prevents you from giving yourself items
coarse lily
The client is just sending packets to do everything, basically.
The same thing that prevents you normally.
If a player isn't an op they can't run commands.
If they don't have permission for creative mode then they can't access creative inventory. Etc.
short yarrow
Oh I'm dumb. I just realized everything is basically on the server side
coarse lily
"Packets" don't change how the game works. The client is just a fancy GUI that sends packets.
Not everything but a lot, yeah.
short yarrow
yeah a lot of the important stuff
random tide
Anyone ever have connection issues on a single individual server? Everyone else is fine but now I am having serious connection issues with my owner server. Ill be fin sitting there at about 30-50 and then i teleport and it goes into the thousands?
My internet besides this is fine. Over 300 down, over 400 up. Other servers seem to be fine
void void
anyone got any good guides for optimizing paper?
crystal lilyBOT
Community contributed configuration guide for Paper: https://eternity.community/index.php/paper-optimization/
coarse lily
There's that one
left swift
yeah thats the only thing on the guide
left swift
dam general really is archived
swift root
general lives
swift root
General Certainly Lives. Not to be confused with General James Lives or General Athanasius Lives, who are both admirable Generals but not quite at the level of Gen. Certainly.
left swift
I am the greater community of papermc general
unkempt drift
just make it work, ez
remote pelican
Oh come on, it's 2022 already
potent fossil
happy new year everyone, hope it is prosperous for you. this is my anticlimactic exit from minecraft. goodbye, if you are a friend then see you around. if not, then i won't
thick bear
Anyone know the idea how to make players cycle through this like items? (into soulsand elevator)
ashen cliff
happy new year everyone, hope it is prosperous for you. this is my anticlimactic...
See ya. Bro.
elfin steppe
oof
ashen cliff
Fact.
twin lagoon
literally where the fuck did those sites come from and who asked for them
twin lagoon
uBlacklist
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*://www.programcreek.com/*
*://githubhelp.com/*
really good extension, 0 issues so far
plucky sparrow
tysm
twin lagoon
plucky sparrow
is it on firefox as well
plucky sparrow
that's gonna be so useful
ashen cliff
So, in the end we will need like 10 extensions to use the web efficiently. 
void void
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tyvm
lavish compass
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vernal moth
I think I have another list for that
And use it in ublock
Can't find it and not at my pc
But my list is way longer
Der
No seperate addon needed
Thank you discord for letting me remove the embed
worn ember
You can put < > around urls to remove embeds
worn ember
Sounds like a bad keyboard then
vernal moth
I rather have actual important chars easily accessible
plucky sparrow
Or you can send the link and then click the x next to it to remove embeds
granite slate
Hi guys, quick question. I'm searching a GUI library fast to learn and with clean code. (I would prefer something with a high modularity if it is heavy). Do you guys happen to know any?
worn ember
for mc inventories or like for programming in general?
granite slate
mc inv
worn ember
i honestly loved using IF
void void
twin lagoon
have you heard of our lord and saviour, incendo interfaces
worn ember
sniped
golden gust
granite slate
Ok thanks I will get a look to everyone suggestion. Thanks all of you
worn ember
interfaces sounds like its too much abstraction for a simple ui lib lol
twin lagoon
clearly you are not using minecraft chest interfaces enough
worn ember
for obvious reasons
worn ember
wtf why so toxic
golden gust
time of the month, or something
plucky sparrow
well it’s cat
worn ember
its only the second of the year and i'm already being roasted
@vernal moth did you have to pay a lot of shipping for your ltt water bottle?
charred sleet
i did
worn ember
frick
charred sleet
to the UK it was about the same as the bottle lol
vernal moth
Yes
worn ember
well guess i'll keep drinking out of plastic bottles 
plucky sparrow
i just use the same bottle from those cheap 50 cent water bottles for months
charred sleet
do you have the 20oz @vernal moth
vernal moth
Wtf is oz
worn ember
UK logic
charred sleet
stupid imperial
vernal moth
Please use standard units when talking to me
plucky sparrow
lmao
vernal moth
I have the big one
worn ember
who?
charred sleet
shes a fucking unit
plucky sparrow
truly an antique
charred sleet
wait there is a .gay domain??????
worn ember
an imperial unit at that
void void
wait there is a `.gay` domain??????
has been for a while
worn ember
.xyz
charred sleet
im looking at that one rn
dim jungle
.uk?
charred sleet
not a thing
worn ember
im only 3 pages into my coursebook and i already want to stop living
dim jungle
I swear that got announced before
charred sleet
do we reckon this would qualify me as a student if i set up and email and shit from this
like for the cheap deals
dim jungle
not a thing
charred sleet
uh why is this taken
twin lagoon
do we reckon this would qualify me as a student if i set up and email and shit f...
no
twin lagoon
uh why is this taken
probably invalid
twin lagoon
they won't check for an entire tld
charred sleet
ik jetbrains or something has that github repo of some valid domains iirc?
ah yes swot
plucky sparrow
has anyone gotten the fleet preview
charred sleet
naw
bleak apex
Hi, guys which tab plugin u use, just looking for a new one, cause the plugin I use is too buggy
arctic basalt
we mostly do our own I guess?
bleak apex
Mostly, but don't think everyone has
worn ember
probably
One downside of discord is that i now can no longer google recent issues since they're not asked on forums anymore lol
spiral kayak
Hi, I cannot find my plugin on curseforge, only on bukkit.org
on curseforge, they say No results for "ItemMods" were found.
wet storm
🥱
spiral kayak
I published my plugin on the curseforge dashboard
limber knotBOT
ask them?
spiral kayak
ok
limber knotBOT
Overwolf has nothing to do with anyone here (pretty sure lol)
spiral kayak
I though someone knows why and had the same issue
worn ember
lol tiktok is now more visited than google 
limber knotBOT
according to one site lol
marble lark
is that a good or bad thing
worn ember
according to one site lol
one site being cloudflare
limber knotBOT
which is a proxy company, not a website/company ranking one ¯_(ツ)_/¯
worn ember
yeah cuz i trust random websites ranking other websites without any backup of stats more reliable lmao
limber knotBOT
also TIL that alexa was bought by amazon (of course lol) and is going to shut down
I trust a ranking company that was around since before the dotcom bubble more than some random startup that has taken control of the whole internet
runs
worn ember
i mean the fact they control the whole internet means they have accurate stats lol
limber knotBOT
no, it means that they think they have accurate stats. whether they do or not we (and they) will probably never know
worn ember
still better than guessing
limber knotBOT
but not better then proper research and employing data scientiests for that
limber knotBOT
I like how cloudflare doesn't even mention any of the methods tehy used to calculate those stats lol
worn ember
thats true
i'll give you that
probably the same way they track stats on the dashboard
limber knotBOT
it sounds like they just used raw data that was filtered in some proprietary way by some code
which of course says something about the technical popularity of sites (like the amount of requests made) but nothing about actual user interactions/retention
void void
anyone know how to make IJ index into a database or something instead of memory?
limber knotBOT
anyways, google is back at #1 https://i.moep.tv/gsWIuzih.png
worn ember
wat
void void
it has to rebuild index everytime i open a project which takes minutes and it uses 2gb of ram
worn ember
just dont close it
void void
just dont close it
wat
you need index to do basic stuff in intellij like ctrl left clicking methods
void void
worn ember
I just realized that not all jetbrains IDE's are free
pretty sure only intellij is
red timber
webstorm is free as well iirc
worn ember
is it?
worn ember
community is
limber knotBOT
which is pretty dumbed down
worn ember
its not that different
limber knotBOT
if you can, get Ultimate
worn ember
only db and enterprise features
limber knotBOT
it's like night and day
void void
which is pretty dumbed down
intellij is still the best java ide despite that
limber knotBOT
of course
red timber
it's using only almost 3gb, weak
void void
is its an xms thing or does it actually NEED 3gb of ram
worn ember
kek
limber knotBOT
void void
like i know for sure chrome does not need 2gb of ram for 2 tabsd
chromium does the same thing for like 300mb of ram
limber knotBOT
not sure how you get it up to over 1GB with indexing
red timber
back in the days when i used intellij it chugged 10gb and was still unusable
worn ember
well i do have 3 pretty big projects open
limber knotBOT
the initial startup for me with indexing literally takes like 10 seconds for me
worn ember
shush
i mean if you dont have enough ram its gonna have to free itup for other stuff
but usually i dont have to reindex all the time
limber knotBOT
it will also be slow if you still use a HDD lol
worn ember
yeah for sure, the difference is night and day
untold meadow
make sure you're up to date as well, they fixed a lot of indexing bugs in the latest version
charred sleet
anyone know a rainbow six stats api?
upbeat falconBOT
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charred sleet
i mean that one is actively hosted not one you have to host yourself
solar hearth
Any plugins that stop world download?
magic river
Any plugins that stop world download?
/ban
How are you going to send them the world so they can play in it while stopping them from saving it?
The only way to stop this is to not let them on your server
lavish compass
good morning
charred sleet
afternoon
magic river
Well, at least they appear to be real connections
Do they actually do anything or just stand around?
void void
good morning
where michael appreciation meter
magic river
GTA6 coming in 2025
edgy palm
GTA6 coming in 2025
magic river
They said it's going to take a while because they're trying to avoid crunch
vernal moth
worn ember
you mean they're still busy milking GTA5
edgy agate
so i got java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
in crash reports
i have a digital ocean droplet with 4gb ram i think
3 players on server during the crash
true topaz
were there people exploring? Loading chunks takes a lot of memory
edgy agate
i don't think so
magic river
This is sounding like some real #paper-help material
edgy agate
ill go there
void void
is LMMS somehow decent? Or should i stay with fl studio
twin lagoon
for linux?
magic river
I suppose that depends on how well FL Studio works in WINE and if LMMS does what you need
For these kinds of things I don't think there is one clear right answer
magic river
Was going to ask what a youtuber has to do with anything 😛
twin lagoon
the name is confusing
twin lagoon
probably blocked person
magic river
void void
hagar wem
vernal moth
like I would understand if they ignore me
but this makes zero sense
maybe they tried to exclude the owner but fucked up?
main flicker
Hello what would you reccomend for small server with minigames velocity or waterfall counting plugin support?
vernal moth
that 100% depends on what kinda plugins you need on the proxy
I personally would go with velocity first and see how far I come
worn ember
very little velocity plugins from what i found tbh
so if you need a lot of plugins i'd say bungee otherwise velocity for sure
twin lagoon
you shouldn't need many plugins on bungeecord
or on velocity
if you need more than 5 plugins on your proxy you have an issue
vernal moth
only plugin I can see is a ban plugin and maybe a perm one?
what else would you add on the proxy?
void void
depending on the gamemodes, queueing?
worn ember
who are you to tell how many plugins a person needs for their server lol
really depends what they're doing
worn ember
a proxy is also a server bruh
twin lagoon
a proxy shouldn't be doing much other than sending users and holding them
twin lagoon
a proxy is also a server bruh
a proxy should do as little as possible
void void
a proxy is also a server bruh
randomteleport for velocity when™️
worn ember
well anything that should work cross server should be handled by the proxy so depending on what you're doing that can be quite a lot of stuff
twin lagoon
you wouldn't necessarily need a plugin on the proxy to handle cross-server stuff
main flicker
Mainly i going to build some tab plugin, ban plugin and chat for proxy
twin lagoon
especially with plugin messaging channels
worn ember
well yeah ig thats true
main flicker
But the only thing is i don’t know velocity api
worn ember
theres not much api anyway runs
main flicker
theres not much api anyway *runs*
Bruh
I saw on github that people mainly use kyiori api in velocity plugin
twin lagoon
adventure?
worn ember
honestly havent touched velocity so wouldn't know
main flicker
adventure?
Yes
main flicker
And basically waterfall supports bungee plugins?
twin lagoon
yes
main flicker
Oh thanks then i am going with waterfall maybe
worn ember
randomteleport for velocity when™️
after i finish the sponge impl
red timber
for velocity, picking a random server to teleport to? lol
void void
Lol
worn ember
for velocity, picking a random server to teleport to? lol
random server and random location ofc
or a specified server
what could go wrong
annoying thing is that i gotta deal with stupid sockets again cuz theres no guarantee that someone is on that server
short yarrow
What prevents somebody without the necessary items to craft a recipe from just sending a craft recipe request to the server to get an item https://wiki.vg/Protocol#Craft_Recipe_Request?
Would it be the window id in this case? I don't see anything that would prevent someone from just sending this packet to get an item
unkempt drift
they probably can do that for their internal 2x2 crafting grid
because as far as the server is concered, that inventory is always open unless some other one is. There's no such thing as a player with no active inventory
void void
What prevents somebody without the necessary items to craft a recipe from just s...
The server checks if the player can actually craft the recipe
unkempt drift
I've got no clue what the mojang name for that packet is... so idk how to find what it does
void void
ServerboundPlaceRecipePacket
unkempt drift
is this the response then? ClientboundPlaceGhostRecipePacket
void void
Only if it can't craft it
potent panther
paper 1.18 is stable now
unkempt drift
What prevents somebody without the necessary items to craft a recipe from just s...
are you talking about this like a player can just get an item out of thin air, or that they can sent this packet without actually looking at a inventory?
untold meadow
void void
new wallpaper
void void
https://discord.com/channels/289587909051416579/555462289851940864/9272656572785...
we can only dream
Material enum might be getting replaced soon-ish
fr?
tropic flame
yeah, by Material2 enum
unkempt drift
has their been some activity on it?
void void
last activity on the 25th
meager tusk
https://discord.com/channels/289587909051416579/555462289851940864/9272656572785...
No.
little frost
Yes.
unkempt drift
Yes.
void void
wait so if you cant bind to a port under 1000 in linux without root
how do i make a webserver on port 80
doesnt it kinda violate the principle of least privilege
stiff wadi
Wow. Two incorrect opinions in a row.
How can an opinion be incorrect?
meager tusk
How can an opinion be incorrect?
Because I said so.
stiff wadi
æ
stiff wadi
wait so if you cant bind to a port under 1000 in linux without root
You can host on some arbitrary port and use iptables to reroute the port
void void
You can host on some arbitrary port and use iptables to reroute the port
alright, thanks
how does docker do it tho
potent panther
plugin for queue?
void void
because i feel like its kinda big oversight
stiff wadi
Docker runs as a system service so it probably has permissions
stiff wadi
no worries
potent panther
recommended plugin for queue?
void void
is anyone running 1.18 yet?
foggy silo
Yes. Many people are.
void void
maybe = many?
red timber
i'm running 1.18.1
foggy silo
maybe = many?
Yep, mb!
silver nexus
It has not caused issues for me and I’ve been running it since a week after release
foggy silo
It’s been working quite well for many.
potent panther
is anyone running 1.18 yet?
i am
what info about my server does paper send to paper?
potent panther
https://minidigger.github.io/paperstats/#1.18
how do you know
scan through every ipv4 ip?
foggy silo
Some data is sent in order for them to be able to see important stats. Most info on ur server isn’t sent, however things like your version, java version, and architecture is sent.
Your server sends the data to bstats
potent panther
Some data is sent in order for them to be able to see important stats. Most info...
how do you know if i 78002 out of 93313 servers on 1.18 run Paper!
That's 83.59 percent!
how do you know the servers that dont run paper
foggy silo
Spigot has their own stats too
potent panther
vanilla?
foggy silo
I’m guessing it just compares spigots stats to papers.
unkempt drift
this is all via bstats, paper itself isn't gathering it, its send to bstats which tracks this stuff
potent panther
I’m guessing it just compares spigots stats to papers.
oh k
unkempt drift
that site just uses bstats data to make a chart
potent panther
so there is more than 93313 server on 1.18
potent panther
I mean it’s possible… but that shows the majority.
to show your server on bstats do you need the plugin or not
raven cypress
What is the best way to get donations. I mean a link. And not paypal
unkempt drift
what's wrong with paypal
foggy silo
to show your server on bstats do you need the plugin or not
No it’s built into the server.
raven cypress
what's wrong with paypal
You have to be 18
unkempt drift
I'm pretty sure you can set one up if you are younger w/your parents assistance
raven cypress
ok i look
unkempt drift
oh nope, that answer was wrong
raven cypress
Okay they say minors aren't allowed to use there services
worn ember
you need to be 18 for any payment service
obviously if you use your parents bank card there is no knowing for them but then its not their problem anymore but your parents
warm anchor
You will need your parents permission to make any payment @raven cypress so you will need them to make the purchase for you
raven cypress
I know. I just want to receive donations
warm anchor
Pretty sure it falls in same bucket. No one will do it if you are minor
raven cypress
In my country i think you can receive donations, no matter how old you are
sly lark
You will still need a payment processor
void void
You would still need to be 18 to use Paypal, or use an account owned by a parent (with their permission)
warm anchor
Most payment processor will go with the most strict rule of all countries to avoid troubles
Especially if your donation involve people internationally
raven cypress
You will still need a payment processor
Yes and i want to find an alternative to paypal
warm anchor
I am not aware any payment processor for minor without legal guardian consent
sly lark
^
I mean, you could always accept cryptocurrency but you're not going to get many donations.
short yarrow
are you talking about this like a player can just get an item out of thin air, o...
Yeah I was talking about like a player getting an item out of thin air. What prevents that from happening?
void void
The server checks if the player can actually craft the recipe
^
it checks the inventory contents
sly lark
Meanwhile, in Bedrock Edition land, you can spawn items in on servers
short yarrow
So I guess the inventory is Window ID Byte?
void void
it checks the inventory contents of the player
the inventory contents of the crafting table are those nine slots you put the recipe in
short yarrow
Oh. I haven't played minecraft for a while. I guess that makes sense. I was curious how the crafting table works
are most minecraft clients built on top of MCP?
arctic cargo
why my Players can't go down below y=0
worn ember
me6
arctic cargo
what this means ^^
worn ember
i have no clue what you mean either ¯_(ツ)_/¯
arctic cargo
Players can't go down below y=0 on the map
worn ember
why not
foggy silo
Check your plugins.
worn ember
what happens when they try?
untold meadow
@twin lagoon BESTEST EVEREST micheiaelal
twin lagoon
no u
twin lagoon
untold meadow
foggy silo
Best Michael!!!!
meager tusk
Average Paper Convo
Was better when Kin was around.
Isn't that right, @ashen cliff bro.
twin lagoon
@meager tusk IDRIZ!
meager tusk
<@!589898090174218243> IDRIZ!
Bro.
Don't think I can hold on much longer.
There hasn't been any Balkon banter with Kin for a while.
meager tusk
Yes, where is Paper ban appeal form?
He needs to appeal for making a joke. Average Minecraft discord.
twin lagoon
@swift rootWhere is Paper Discord ban appeal form
meager tusk
Free my boy Kin. He didn't do anything wrong.
sour pendant
used this on my server, does anyone know any plugin or configuration to prevent
ashen cliff
Bro.
austere barn
Does anyone know a plugin that, when you click a mob, it runs a command?
not searching for citizens
meager tusk
not searching for citizens
Why would you be searching for citizens? I doubt anyone will run a command when they see somebody clicking an entity.
Unless you pay them.
warm anchor
used this on my server, does anyone know any plugin or configuration to prevent
Additionally, ban the player
That machine sole purpose is to grief
warm anchor
swift root
<@!347959633518002177>Where is Paper Discord ban appeal form
It's on the website somewhere at https://papermc.io
Wtf
twin lagoon
https://forms.gle/UzQcDUMTZF9vUf7P8 @meager tusk Send this to Kin!
swift root
Damn beat me to it
left swift
send it to duck
charred sleet
lol
radiant oriole
LOL
foggy silo
Done. That felt good!
vernal moth
The first kick was deserved, I posted https://spigot.download
That second one, I don't know
mossy vessel
Maybe he just doesn't like you
foggy silo
Oh wow didn't know that existed, lol
limber knotBOT
posting links to copyright violation on their verified discord 👀
merry talon
no it just links to the paper download page
charred sleet
anyone have the link to the md monologue
main flicker
The first kick was deserved, I posted https://spigot.download
I got banned for this on spigot Discord 😄
rocky flame
simple gone 
left swift
happy new year everyone, hope it is prosperous for you. this is my anticlimactic...
wtf
good job jroy
pale river
The first kick was deserved, I posted https://spigot.download
nice domain lol
quick pasture
👀
twin lagoon
@quick pasture send dog
quick pasture
coarse lily
Good dog.
worn ember
well ig i can remove this todo now since adventure is merged
void void
why would i use index mapping in elasticsearch?
does elastic search even allow arbirary json values to be ingested
twin lagoon
it does
void void
do i have to make mapping then
do you tihnk no mapping will cause a drastic performance hit
id like elastic search to know that certain json values are timestamps
twin lagoon
that's what mappings are for
void void
will it let you have mappings for only some of the rows?
void void
yeah
twin lagoon
yes
void void
should i use mappings
void void
wait wym
do you just create an index by doing rest call to
restClient.performRequest(new Request("PUT", "/" + index));
crystal compass
bruh is it possible for another plugin with a gui to overwrite a gui?
Basically somebody opened their backpack, and their backpack was replaced with the contents of a /recipe command lol
which pops up a gui displaying a recipe
unkempt drift
anytime a plugin opens an inventory it closes the previous one
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by Machine Maker - About 658,000,000 results (0.33 seconds)
crystal compass
anytime a plugin opens an inventory it closes the previous one
is this implying that the scenario I described might be almost impossible?
Could lag even replicate something like that
icy jasper
Hello Im new to servers I have a 1.18 paper server Im 48 versions behind on it how do I update it? I tried just replacing the paper-1.18.1-81.jar file with the newest version "paper-1.18.1-129.jar" but upon placing it in the server cmd box says its unable to access the Jarfile paper-1.18.1-81.jar. Anyone can explain and help me out?
crystal compass
change the name in the startup parameters
"paper-1.18.1-81.jar" is your old .jar file
it needs to access "paper-1.18.1-129.jar"
personally I just put "paper.jar" in the startup parameters and rename every new paper version
icy jasper
change the name in the startup parameters
Where is this located? I cant seem to find it
merry talon
I prefer just representing the jar as base64 in my starting script
charred oracle
Where is this located? I cant seem to find it
generally in the start.sh/start.bat file
crystal compass
Where is this located? I cant seem to find it
do you use a host
icy jasper
I use my pc
icy jasper
This is what I see
crystal compass
click edit
crystal compass
right-click run.bat
^
icy jasper
Lol okay
charred oracle
edit the file and find the line where it declares the paper.jar
icy jasper
Pls dont hate
charred oracle
and rename it so it just tries to calls paper.jar and you dont need to edit the file ever again
charred oracle
then rename file to the filename u declared in the run.bat
icy jasper
That was pretty simple sorry if it just wasn't coming across
charred oracle
no problem
icy jasper
https://gyazo.com/32499528edff4041624545f58612c113
purpur.jar? lol good name
charred oracle
purpur is a fork of paper.
crystal compass
remember if you ever need help, ping zzcat
charred oracle
i personally dont need to access the website as I made myself an application which gets the jar files through the v2 api
charred oracle
icy jasper
charred oracle
just C#. and Newtonsoft.json directly implemented in the exe
so I can easily deserialize the api calls
icy jasper
C#, is that short for see numbers?
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
charred oracle
E
charred oracle
we just have to wait for a proper announcement that it is out of experimental/early build state
crystal compass
I still haven't been able to solve this mystery of how another GUI just overwrote another
icy jasper
I still haven't been able to solve this mystery of how another GUI just overwrot...
Blame it on karen
timid willow
personally I just put "paper.jar" in the startup parameters and rename every new...
this.
charred oracle
it is public accessable tho
astral cave
Giv that pls
twin lagoon
i like how you've made a git repo to only use it's releases system
and not opensource the actual downloader
charred oracle
i forgot, I am searching the source rn on my drives 
found it
give me a minute
or 20
as i said, did it in school while i was in breaks and bored, so i somehow forgot uploading the entire source
@twin lagoon now full source is there
i kinda got into WPF with that project too
marble lark
remember if you ever need help, ping zzcat
rest in peace the poor bugger that reads this and actually does that
void void
https://github.com/NotJansel/Paper-Downloader/releases/tag/v1.0
Paper.Downloader.exe 😓
void void
exe should be banned, just make everything jar
that way we can decompile and check if safe
charred oracle
i literally put source up
void void
exes are painful to reverse engineer
charred oracle
but ok
charred oracle
but then my brain go smoke bc i then need to learn more java
sly lark
exes are painful to reverse engineer
Not really, Hex-Rays decompiler produces pretty good psuedo code
his program is also written in an IL language, so you can just throw that in dnSpy and basically have the source code
void void
well for dnspy to work the exe has to be .net
sly lark
his program is also written in an IL language, so you can just throw that in dnS...
Which his program is.
void void
oh lol
charred oracle
yea
.net framework 4.7.2
also it is even more complicated to decompile if it would be obfuscated
void void
how does it work
sly lark
and Hex-Rays decompiler is very good at producing psuedo code from assembly/compiled programs
void void
what does ms include in .net programs that makes it easily decompilable
this doesnt make any sense
you cant put multiple index requests in a bulk call?
because its the same "index" key
sly lark
what does ms include in .net programs that makes it easily decompilable
IL is more verbose than most things and compiled programs contain quite a bit of meta data that can be used to a persons advantage
void void
IL is more verbose than most things and compiled programs contain quite a bit of...
nice
so you know alot about decompiling?
marble lark
exes are painful to reverse engineer
just check the dll with dnSpy or something, it's a C# application
void void
whats difference between hex rays, ghidra and ida pro
sly lark
whats difference between hex rays, ghidra and ida pro
Hex-Rays is who makes the decompiler that IDA uses.
void void
okayt
sly lark
Ghidra is open-source, free, and made by the NSA (heh)
sly lark
IDA is like $5,000, closed-source, and made by some Japanese company
void void
fr?
sly lark
IDA is much, much better at making readable psuedo code
void void
oh there is an ida educational
sly lark
Ghidra uses an open-source decompiler which doesn't produce very good psuedo code
void void
im guessing is free
marble lark
yeah