God, reminds me of jeff dunhams spark of insanity
#general
golden gust
limber knotBOT
in my part of Ohio, there's ample warning
golden gust
foggy veldt
Only three natural disasters scare me: hurricanes, floods, and landslides
Actually 4: wildfires
golden gust
Well, that all precedes the first ultimate disaster you enfaced
ashen nacelle
I have sparks of insantiy on DVD
golden gust
being born
foggy veldt
D:
golden gust
wonder if this one lasts longer than %random_person%
golden gust
in the UK most we have is stormy weather
hexed dragon
Yep
golden gust
This one place I was living had an almost straight path down the road towards the sea, soo...
Like, perfect tunnel for letting it blow up
worthy geode
there was pretty bad flooding here in summer, but thats pretty much it. no wildfires, no hurricanes, no tornadoes, its almost boring
golden gust
This one time I heard somebody screaming in the morning, looked out the window and some girl was on the walk of shame almost getting taken in the wind
limber knotBOT
lmao
ashen nacelle
as a kid my borther, sister, and I experienced Ball Lightning
mild rune
ball lightning is cursed
ashen nacelle
it came down like slow mothing hit the slide and with a bright flash and bang it was gone. scared the shit out of us
golden gust
best I've got is seeing a UFO when I was younger
I hardly even remember it, but, was kinda weird, think me and my bro where just like o.O
ashen nacelle
I have also seen lightning strike a transformer.
plucky sparrow
I’ve rarely seen snow since my city is in a valley 😆
ashen nacelle
heres the tornado I took a picture of in Florida (2009)
golden gust
oh god, I remember this one time my and my grandfather went to go work somewhere
limber knotBOT
Lightning once took out my DVR. No other device in the house was affected, literally just the DVR
ashen nacelle
that picture was taking on an old crappy flip phone
limber knotBOT
TIL lightning can help fertilise soil
golden gust
as we where driving home, my grandfather got a call from somewhere and like, so, I used to work on switchgear, like, the huge breakers, and one common thing for us was hospitals, and basically some hospital was running the generator for some reason and the wall in between the switchboard room and the room where the generator set is started to fall apart, they couldn't figure out how to get the generator to turn off as they couldn't get to it safely
But, damn, those mother fluffers are loud af
mild rune
stop watching weird things
limber knotBOT
my friend keeps sending me chinese memes
All Of Me is where your city pop/jazz fusion rabbit hole starts
it starts with the happy skydiving man, and you end up with that same man playing a surfboard guitar
worn ember
get better friends
void void
super idol is amazing tho
wary meteor
What is waterfall velocity and hangar?
worthy geode
Waterfall is a proxy, used to connect multiple servers together. its a fork of BungeeCord. Velocity is a proxy as well, but its more modern and better.
Hangar will be a plugin repository, like SpigotMC's website
ashen cliff
unkempt drift
Ooo Apple won a stay of the ruling against them a couple months ago. It was just about to go into effect too on dec. 9th
(Not that it was in any way a meaningful decisions against Apple in the first place)
They would’ve had to allow links or buttons to in-app web view, or external web view payment systems and even then, Apple can require those payment systems to pay a cut back to Apple.
finite swift
why valk repository was deleted?
limber knotBOT
valk repo was deleted because the project manager is of lower intelligence
which, compared to me is impressive
potent fossil
henlo
foggy silo
Hello!!!
potent fossil
why are you yelling
swift root
why are you whispering, simple
void void
HELLO
void void
can anyone have a look on <#555462214606389275>
are you running an offline mode cracked server
@fringe moat
fringe moat
yes
potent fossil
running offline mode is pirating minecraft, it does not matter that a lot of servers are offline. this is a community rule
sorry please do not seek support for it here
fringe moat
.... ok
foggy silo
potent fossil
you can try other support communities
fringe moat
like?
foggy silo
Maybe but just buy the game.
potent fossil
all i can think of off the top of my head is mcmarket
fringe moat
But in generally, a lot of peoples haven t the game purchased and I have a small server momentary
cunning raft
this isn't the place to debate offline mode
potent fossil
that's not our problem
void void
I'll take "offline mode excuses" for 800
fringe moat
void void
There are bigger offline servers I am a small server and need players Many people where I am haven't bought the game
potent fossil
regardless, it is piracy and piracy is against the community rules so 
just leave it alone
cunning raft
fringe moat
ok
foggy silo
I hope you are all having a good day too
cosmic raft
potent fossil
My sister got my fiancee a coffee mug with a weed pipe built in
Has technology gone too far
foggy silo
👀
potent fossil
#gifs-and-memes
foggy silo
Yessir!
potent fossil
TIL my phone camera has a 5.4mm image sensor
that's 6.49 times smaller than my DSLR
twin lagoon
My sister got my fiancee a coffee mug with a weed pipe built in
link
bleak dagger
Is there any good coding tutorials on youtube for paper
Because I can’t find any without errors
brave radish
Is there any good coding tutorials on youtube for paper
no
brave radish
learn the language itself first, then learn to use the API
south matrix
i wouldnt recommend any minecraft-related video tutorial
bleak dagger
Oh ok
languid karma
Do u actually like know java?
spare venture
intro to java at your local university
south matrix
i'd use https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/creating-a-blank-spigot-plugin-in-intellij-idea/ this for creating the project itself
but for learning java don't start with minecraft
bleak dagger
Thx man
potent fossil
intro to java at your local university
bad advice CHAD
my two java classes at school cover sections 1, 2, some of 3, some of 5, a very very tiny amount of 6, and barely any of 7 here and don't touch 4 or 8 at all
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html
then naturally there are 3 more basic trails that are extremely useful and a shitload of specialized trails that school doesn't bother with 
limber knotBOT
my introduction java course last year was literally "make this button do this" and use AWT and java 8
applet's not.
potent fossil
anyone wanna see the random camel that was in my neighborhood last night
languid karma
my two java classes at school cover sections 1, 2, *some of* 3, *some of* 5, *a ...
I am a HS freshman taking a Comp. sci. which covers java (ik java a bit, I just wanted to join for python and to get into AP Comp. Sci)
The entire thing is so slow (we have covering Java for around a month ), and have just started IF statements and while loops.
he also throws things like naming convention out of the window
potent fossil
this is why i taught myself everything instead of learning it for the first time in school
languid karma
which would be good to get people into the habit of doing
potent fossil
i still have to take the classes but i slep
foggy silo
i still have to take the classes but i slep
Been there.
languid karma
this is why i taught myself everything instead of learning it for the first time...
self taught is better in some cases
im trying to help my friend in that class
and he is struggling quite a bit
potent fossil
anyway here is camel .
foggy silo
I learned a little bit of JS, god awful, but it helped me get off my feet and I was able to push myself with some 3 hour tutorial split into a bunch of mini videos to learn Java.
rare tiger
but for learning java don't start with minecraft
haha yea... don't... that would be a horrible idea 👉👈
well i mean i've used java before minecraft but not really
if by used you mean manipulate it so that open source shit can build properly
worn ember
show its toes
potent fossil
ngl i learned java for the first time because of minecraft but now i use it for fucking everything
foggy silo
I had a passion project I worked on to build my skills.
Mostly tho, it was out of Minecraft.
rare tiger
ngl i learned java for the first time *because* of minecraft but now i use it fo...
minecraft showed me how great java is ✨
foggy silo
ngl i learned java for the first time *because* of minecraft but now i use it fo...
Yea, it’s a great platform.
potent fossil
all my web APIs are in java
foggy silo
A great community… sometimes.
foggy silo
Yes Java is fine for lots of things.
languid karma
only motivation was minecraft
limber knotBOT
i put time into actually learning java with minecraft to ace my java test lmao
and i did, i got a 10/10
foggy silo
People always tell me to use more “””modern””” languages for stuff like apis.
But I feel that there is nothing stopping ya ;p
languid karma
i put time into actually learning java with minecraft to ace my java test lmao
i forgot there was a java unit test
rare tiger
all my web APIs are in java
JS users: *sweating profusely*
PHP users: *dripping wet*
Zapier users: *collapsed on the floor*
foggy silo
Kotlin 🥴
potent fossil
lul
worn ember
verbose != solid 
south matrix
i took two semesters of java in college, didn't really learn much in the second one until i started working with and making plugins... i think to make plugins you need a basic knowledge of coding, but a lot of it comes from the experience, i agree
potent fossil
no, it's more about how strongly typed it is that makes it solid
rare tiger
JaVa Is VeRbOsE (((world where IDEs no longer exist)))
worn ember
it can do basically anything
gluck when you gotta touch hardware tho
rare tiger
why would you need to when java is perfectly x-platform
potent fossil
then you just use java native interface (JNI) and run C
limber knotBOT
i've had to write java code for school in an ""IDE"" without autocomplete
foggy silo
And doesn’t get very crazy with syntax sugar
foggy silo
i've had to write java code for school in an ""IDE"" without autocomplete
Same…
We had this “coding buddy” IDE, Donno.
potent fossil
if you have to touch anything lower 
languid karma
my school uses Eclipse Oxygen from 2017
foggy silo
It was basically a test editor.
languid karma
and it runs as slow as hell
rare tiger
i avoid JNI like the plague because it ruins the compatibility you get for free
languid karma
auto complete is non-existent
potent fossil
well yea, but if you need to go to lower and want to keep using java then there ya go
foggy silo
limber knotBOT
it legit looks like a notepad++ fork from 2008 (javaeditor.org)
potent fossil
the interface to reach lower is there
but you get the fun of dealing with compat then
languid karma
At least you have something better than a note pad.
all of our java tests are on paper ;-;
i never realized how bad i am at writing {}
limber knotBOT
i had to do SQL on paper
limber knotBOT
SQL isnt that bad cuz it's plain english
rare tiger
> i ask prof why he hates java
> says he doesn't like OOP in general
> later reveals he used java for years without an actual IDE and now uses eclipse
potent fossil
if someone says they don't like OOP, I immediately have a strong desire for mercy killing
void void
i dont like oop
foggy silo
if someone says they don't like OOP, I immediately have a strong desire for merc...
Their opinion immediately becomes invalidated.
potent fossil
rosa, don't make me do this
foggy silo
i dont like oop
Cancelled.
left swift
and I oop
limber knotBOT
i had to a test on AI (simulations) and had to program (IN LOGO) (WITHOUT AUTOCOMPLETE) but with a checker so all was p good
left swift
I support simple
void void
the structure provided by imperative languages without objects such as C and Rust is far more conducive to programming and grants zero-cost abstraction through proper use and understanding of data structures
fite me
limber knotBOT
Logo is a terrible language though and i hope you never have to use it ever
left swift
even though simple hates me
limber knotBOT
unleashes the armies of Isengard on rosa.
potent fossil
who can
void void
noone
void void
everytime you kill me three new worker threads spawn
foggy silo
Dang
void void
im like the hydra but more thread safe
void void
good luck
foggy silo
I’ve done it before in production.
void void
ah but unfortunately i have rootkitted your pc rendering your silly terminal commands useless
languid karma
my teachers makes us do our code like this
int sum = 0;
int amount = 0;
while(amount <= 10){
sum += amount;
amount++;
}
System.out.println("Sum of 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 +6 + 7 + 8 + 9 + 10 is " + sum);
instead of for loops
bruh
void void
and if youre thinking about unplugging your pc i'm in your iot devices as well
limber knotBOT
lemme find some of my java code i had to write
void void
you are forced to listen to my "hot" takes on oop
languid karma
my teachers makes us do our code like this
```java
int sum = 0;
int amount = 0;...
not to mention the way people indent their code, like its ALL aligned to the left side, and its unreadable
limber knotBOT
hot take: OOP is just nice
south matrix
"Sum of " + IntStream.range(1, 10).map(i -> i + "").collect(Collectors.joining(" + ")) + " is " + IntStream.range(1, 10).sum().getAsInt()
void void
hot take: OOP is just nice
cold take: no
south matrix
👍
languid karma
`"Sum of " + IntStream.range(1, 10).map(i -> i + "").collect(Collectors.joining(...
the kids would die seeing arrows
foggy silo
I made a thread executor that had 1 idle thread always active….
(This quickly propagated to there being hundreds of idle threads)
limber knotBOT
goes to school laptop onedrive
foggy silo
I’m a good cod er
limber knotBOT
gets blinded by light mode
void void
languid karma
our school just uses GDrive
limber knotBOT
it's 1 am and my desk light broke down the other day
my school is a "Microsoft Showcase School"TM(R)(C)
foggy silo
Our school is a google enjoyer.
south matrix
https://github.com/mTvare6/hello-world.rs
that reminds me of https://github.com/Conclure/DeluxeAsyncJoinLeaveMessage
void void
that reminds me of <https://github.com/Conclure/DeluxeAsyncJoinLeaveMessage>
not async enough, we need to be memory chad and blazing pure and lightning based
south matrix
one class
public final class FinalProUltimateDeluxeAsyncChatJoinMessagePluginImplFactoryAbstractCommonMainProviderBootstrapExecutorHandler
extends @NotNull @Nullable @NonNls JavaPlugin implements @NotNull @Nullable @NonNls Listener,
@NotNull @Nullable @NonNls Plugin,
@NotNull @Nullable @NonNls CommandExecutor,
@NotNull @Nullable @NonNls TabCompleter,
@NotNull @Nullable @NonNls Serializable,```ngl the documentation from line 1221-32267 is very helpful
i understand the class so much better now
limber knotBOT
south matrix
limber knotBOT
just look at the paste i sent, it's so cursed
foggy silo
Lmao
limber knotBOT
basically what it does is calculate a fictional fine based on some restrains
foggy silo
It must be fun mixing English and Dutch!!
limber knotBOT
very
i've written so much V lately it's gonna be tough switching back to java
V really likes snake_casing
foggy silo
It’s okay java loves you
limber knotBOT
yeah i love java too
south matrix
ngl the documentation from line 1221-32267 is very helpful
i understand the clas...
https://github.com/Conclure/DeluxeAsyncJoinLeaveMessage/pull/11/files
this makes it even more clear
languid karma
ah alright
good move on his part, i was a little confused on what it did
south matrix
pretty great
foggy silo
No wonder my phone was literally killing itself
south matrix
1.2k lines of code
limber knotBOT
gonna change public class Piece** to public interface Piece because i'm dumb
languid karma
chrome almost crashed
foggy silo
Post post async leave event
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
hello kash
cosmic raft
hello
foggy silo
This reminds me of a project where basically all the code resides in this giant class 10s of thousands of lines long.
spare venture
my two java classes at school cover sections 1, 2, *some of* 3, *some of* 5, *a ...
i’m gonna be honest it’s not bad advice. learning the basic concepts of programming in an actual classroom environment is very useful for the majority of people, especially having a professor that you can ask questions to
foggy silo
All real code, just a lot of static. x)
limber knotBOT
sounds like the first version of monkebotplugin
rare tiger
<https://github.com/Conclure/DeluxeAsyncJoinLeaveMessage/pull/11/files>
this mak...
I'm having conniptions.
limber knotBOT
or monkebotJ for that matter
foggy silo
Mc plug-in programming promotes some terrible practices lol
spare venture
it’s not gonna make you an expert but taking an intro class gets your feet wet enough that you can then teach yourself from there a lot easier
rare tiger
@Contract("random")
foggy silo
I don’t even know, what does that mean?
limber knotBOT
but eh, i've decided with the rest of the team to shut down monkegame anyway so i don't need to rewrite any monkegame related things
foggy silo
Ahh wait,
Jetbrains annotation
I remember end behavior of method when given null or what not
potent fossil
method contract defines how the method should behave given certain conditions
foggy silo
Yea
potent fossil
this just says the method behaves randomly regardless
viral hornet
monkegame xD
limber knotBOT
lmao
foggy silo
Well pretty fair
limber knotBOT
what about it Camm >:c
foggy silo
That plug-in is pure comedy
waxen panther
monkegame xD
limber knotBOT
ok brocc
foggy silo
Gn
limber knotBOT
yeah i should go to bed but im looking at my very cursed java code
that i wrote last year
waxen panther
ok
foggy silo
that i wrote last year
That’s always fun
limber knotBOT
ik there was a really cursed mess of if statements i made
lemme find tht
yep there we go
if ((checkboxB.getState() == true && checkboxA.getState() == false) || (checkboxA.getState() == true && checkboxB.getState() == false))
limber knotBOT
this is what no intellij does to a mf
foggy silo
Yes.
void void
real chads write plugins in vim with C and JNI
limber knotBOT
i wholly blame https://javaeditor.org for this
real chads just modify the server instead of using plugins
foggy silo
Real
limber knotBOT
jk, real chads don't write plugins.
but yeah i gotta fix shogicraft :/
like actually
void void
i wholly blame https://javaeditor.org for this
epic apache fail
limber knotBOT
viral hornet
what is that program
limber knotBOT
it's java-editor, camm
limber knotBOT
school made me
void void
i hate drjava and java-editor with a fiery passion
viral hornet
😦
limber knotBOT
the version we used at school was so outdated it didn
t even allow theming
i don't know why i hit the enter key so early
void void
i love how on the OS versions part of the page it just basically says
foggy silo
void void
windows: ✅ linux+macos: go FUCK yourself (use wine lol we cba)
void void
true but funny
limber knotBOT
i can't think of a school not using windows computers
foggy silo
My school has pretty much just
void void
windows: ✅ linux+macos: go FUCK yourself (use wine lol we cba)
systemd for 4 hours
foggy silo
Converted everything to chrome books
languid karma
my elementry school used chrome books
limber knotBOT
reminds me, i gotta save up for a laptop for when i go to college
void void
B)
void void
yea i use systemd
but why did you added it as a game?
void void
makes sense
I use systemd too
because im an arch user and EVERYONE has to know exactly what operating system shit im using
everyone
limber knotBOT
not using artix pensive
limber knotBOT
(artix wouldn't let me boot its install iso so couldn't install it to feel superior to arch users)
void void
(I use Arch too but this GIF just fits)
god i wish artix devs would figure out basic web design
foggy silo
^ 💀
void void
they have the ugliest website
worn ember
good
limber knotBOT
lol
my school's website
looks clean, pain to find literally anything
and like
how hard is it to tag articles and add a search bar
with wordpress
void void
we have to reerite liunx kernel in rust 🚀 🚀 🚀 linxu must be memory fast and chad based efficiency and epic speed stable safe with thread
foggy silo
My school has redone it’s website twice in the last 2 years
void void
school websites suck as a universal rule
void void
my school's website
the dev just didn't care about a school website lol
languid karma
my schools front page is just filled with white girls smiling at the camera
and the school newspaper
void void
while girls
limber knotBOT
my school's homepage features a 3 year old picture of one of my classmates
languid karma
while girls
while(girls){
foggy silo
We also have a new domain + email domain because our old one was 18 characters long.
limber knotBOT
while (girls) { kissAndCuddle(); }
worn ember
cringe
limber knotBOT
girls 😍
void void
girls.stream().forEach(InternetMoment::creepyDM);
limber knotBOT
no.
viral hornet
void void
god i hate broccolai
limber knotBOT
girls.stream().forEach(HornyPost::twitterAnimeBooba);
waxen panther
ok furry
void void
i am NOT A FURRY
limber knotBOT
ok plant
viral hornet
naomi pls
void void
read my bio
viral hornet
aren't you like 15
void void
boomer
waxen panther
naomi you are 15
viral hornet
oh
waxen panther
why are you saying shit like this
void void
Broccoli is incredible
limber knotBOT
i do not care.
viral hornet
yeah wtf
waxen panther
i care
void void
naomi you are 15
wait what
viral hornet
petition to ban from IRC
void void
Who is the oldest person here?
viral hornet
Probably Aikar
waxen panther
@coarse lily
void void
idk im 16
waxen panther
average age of this channel is like 15 though
languid karma
average age of this channel is like 15 though
what about mental age?
void void
naomi has die
limber knotBOT
slutshaming me because of anime booba wtf 😔
languid karma
alright
void void
nvm
waxen panther
slutshaming me because of anime booba wtf 😔
????
void void
mental age of about 8
:((
viral hornet
Naomi pls
void void
simp for anime bob 🤔
worn ember
limber knotBOT
can't have real bob so turn to anime bob
void void
Okay, this server started being weird
waxen panther
15 year old btw
foggy silo
Welcome to paper mc
void void
darkeyedragon ruining everything b like
viral hornet
vestal jasper
I come back to THIS
viral hornet
Bye Owen
limber knotBOT
you ain't seen nothin yet emerqld
waxen panther
<@&748618676189528155> 
foggy silo
😩😩😩
mighty storm
da paper ping
foggy silo
Oh.
worn ember
yes post it again
mighty storm
we got it dw
viral hornet
Oh thanks
foggy silo
I didn’t know it was bad…
viral hornet
That word is terrible
foggy silo
I’m sorry…
void void
Welcome to paper mc
Can make anime booba joke but can't say Pucci is a priest for some political random reason idk what is political about Pucci
mighty storm
aint that the expensive belt brand
vestal jasper
Gucci
void void
Somebody told me "no politics" when I said my profile picture was christian weeb pp
vestal jasper
Pucci is a character from jojo part 6
vestal jasper
excuse me?
void void
Solid series tbh
worn ember
gucci gang gucci gang gucci gang
vestal jasper
jojo anime
void void
but everyone have their own preference
mighty storm
ah
foggy silo
Well yea that wasn’t very SMART of me.
viral hornet
True
limber knotBOT
some would say it's... dumb
potent fossil
im gonna get a haircut but im also feeling v e r y lazy
limber knotBOT
prob limited to a ?warn
static badge
you need a 3 month mute buddy
waxen panther
thanks naomi
foggy silo
😩
limber knotBOT
wtf leaf woke up
potent fossil
you get to wear the shame cap and be followed around with a bell so people know you approach
foggy silo
Not leaf my love
vestal jasper
leaf alive wew
potent fossil
worn ember
go back to bed leaf, its not worth it
foggy silo
worn ember
no
void void
about to make an et* joke
foggy silo
I made a poopoo oopsie
void void
o7
foggy silo
Good night!!
twin lagoon
@vestal jasper uwu
foggy silo
Yes for real get some sleep 🥴
void void
viral hornet
It's all good 🙂
olive marlin
I got my order canceled, which is illegal. I messaged them saying that they can't legally terminate our agreement, and they just keep sending the same message saying why they canceled it...
Some people are so clueless...
olive marlin
It's all good 🙂
viral hornet
Prof 
foggy silo
Did you get your money back tho?
waxen panther
moderators discussing owens greatest rule breakage
foggy silo
😔
olive marlin
Did you get your money back tho?
I got message I'll get it back in 2-3 days. They are still required to send it to me (according to law I can pay when receiving the package).
foggy silo
Oh wow
I’m curious, what country is this?
Cause I’d guess it’s possible to give them a rly hard time if this law applies here. x)
olive marlin
I can also demand remedies for not honoring the contract in timely manner and, if I want I can buy it from another seller even if it's pricier and send them receipt to pay me back.
Poland.
foggy silo
Ahh
olive marlin
I didn't know we had such good law around it until I read it 3 day ago lmao
foggy silo
Yea that’s good
foggy silo
I can also demand remedies for not honoring the contract in timely manner and, i...
But that’s just incredible here lol
Ask THEM to pay
Or well, demand them
Who ur buying from is based in Poland I’m guessing?
olive marlin
I just messaged them reminding that I have that right.
It's a company in Poland, yes.
fossil patio
moderators discussing owens greatest rule breakage
broccoli defending poor taste in emojis 
waxen panther
foggy silo
spare venture
what country has a law that you have to send something you bought instead of just cancelling it? unless you actually signed a contract
foggy silo
It's a company in Poland, yes.
Yea take advantage, that’s an incredible law.
foggy silo
what country has a law that you have to send something you bought instead of jus...
Poland ig
Which ain’t too bad, especially that most of the time what you order you expect to get.
cosmic raft
#bot-spam for bot/emoji/sticker testing
olive marlin
what country has a law that you have to send something you bought instead of jus...
I bought it on the site, which is equal with creating a sell/buy contract.
spare venture
seems like a very loose contract
olive marlin
According to it, since 6 years ago, seller can't terminate the contract due to unavailable goods.
They had law allowing them to, but was removed a few years ago.
spare venture
the word contract is what i guess i’m confused about. legally enforcing that seems… weird
unless it was explicitly stated in the contract that they agreed to deliver the items no matter what
olive marlin
It's great that we have some law describing what rights we have when buying stuff.
Nah, Civil Code covers that.
foggy silo
But props to you for getting on top of your laws!
spare venture
i create and enforce contracts for my job and that just seems… very strange
foggy silo
whats the difference between waterfall and velocity and paper
Waterfall and velocity are proxies
Paper is Mc server software
olive marlin
They are required to deliver the goods immediately, but no later than within 30 days, unless explicitly stated otherwise.
grand temple
yes
foggy silo
It’s basically that
spare venture
They are required to deliver the goods immediately, but no later than within 30 ...
and what if they don’t?
foggy silo
But velocity is a rewrite and doesn’t use any bungee cord code, but achieves the same behavior.
grand temple
thx!
spare venture
what are the exceptions, penalties
foggy silo
Np!
spare venture
it seems very weird that they HAVE to deliver the goods and can’t just refund you, unless it was written into an actual contract
unless you sue them and can prove not having the agreed upon item caused you damages
olive marlin
and what if they don’t?
I can seek remedies (including financial for not keeping the contract). If they also delay too much and the contract only specifies the count and type (but not exact, specific item like this exact thing), I can just satisfy the contract with a different party and charge them to pay for it, even if it was pricier.
foggy silo
And they shouldn’t even have allowed the purchase if they didn’t have enough in the first place.
You don’t give someone money only for them to say “oh I don’t have it, nvm”
olive marlin
unless you sue them and can prove not having the agreed upon item caused you dam...
The delay might force me to pay more for it - I can argue they canceled it because it got pricer and I would buy cheaper at another seller if I knew they didn't have it in stock.
spare venture
You don’t give someone money only for them to say “oh I don’t have it, nvm”
but that’s how things work… you can’t be perfect, and that’s why you just refund
waxen panther
uh yeah actually um among us
spare venture
damn i guess i’ll be sure to never sell anything in poland
foggy silo
I mean you’ll have to do a lot more research to be selling out of country. X)
It ain’t that easy.
And don’t abuse hosts. 😦
spare venture
for once i’m thinking the US is actually more sane than another country lol
olive marlin
but that’s how things work… you can’t be perfect, and that’s why you just refund
Actually, you are responsible as a seller to provide accurate listing, and this is counted as part of it iirc.
waxen panther
And don’t abuse hosts. 😦
how is it abusing them
foggy silo
Post in there,
waxen panther
oracle literally made a guide for running mc servers on their free tier server
spare venture
free stuff is always ymmv
foggy silo
Lots of time free hosts aren’t rly for putting Mc servers on…
spare venture
people have been burned by the free oracle stuff already
spare venture
you gotta be ready for everything to be shut off and deleted without notice for free lol
olive marlin
It's like when GPUs were released and stores sold them at pre-order at a loss compared to what they could charge just after they actually received the goods.
zenith maple
try to force stop your instance
IF YOU GET THIS NOTIFICATION you need to Terminate your instance WITHOUT terminating boot volume then create another
spare venture
i’m gonna be honest i think that’s absolutely crazy, i’m glad i don’t have to deal with that law
zenith maple
If youre not running bungee or something proxy-like for your server, disable firewall, delete rules and save. But its very easy to do and still not recommended
olive marlin
I'm glad I can buy stuff and are immune to company just deciding they want to charge me more.
spare venture
uh that’s not what we’re talking about?
you said they’re obligated to deliver that item under penalty of law
that they can’t cancel the order and refund lol
olive marlin
Yup. Unless it's objectively unavailable - which would be if everyone stopped selling it.
spare venture
wdym objectively unavailable. if i sold 10 candy bars to be delivered next week but my supplier only shipped 5 to me this week, i am going to the gulag because jimmy isn’t getting a candy bar?
foggy silo
Well this has surely gotten interesting.
spare venture
like my company would be shut down by this law lmao
olive marlin
The moment I got the message they cancel my order, I went to search for available sell offers and cheapest I found was 200$ more than what I paid. Otherwise I'd just buy another and let them do it.
spare venture
how does industry even work in poland with this law
olive marlin
You have plenty of time to get the product to make up for your mistake.
spare venture
you sell 1000 cartons of product, but your mixer blows up and you can only produce 500. get fukt i guess
olive marlin
You won't be repairing it for a month, will you?
olive marlin
Then you go to another seller and buy it. Or just pay the damages.
spare venture
i ordered a part back in july that was expected to ship in august. i still haven’t received that part. am i going to sue that company for not delivering it? no lol.
olive marlin
Am I gonna sue? Doubt. I just don't want to lose cash because they can't update their stock count and just put 9999 items in stock.
olive marlin
If I go right now to buy the phone, I'll have to pay more than I'd pay if they didn't have their offer up.
So yes, I'd be at a loss.
spare venture
can you really prove that this caused you damages
just because you have to pay a little extra from a competitor isn’t their fault. if they never accepted your order you would’ve had to buy from the competitor at that price anyway
olive marlin
just because you have to pay a little extra from a competitor isn’t their fault....
No, I wouldn't. When I placed that order, there were cheaper options than there are right now.
spare venture
most places i don’t think you could hold them liable for that, but i guess poland is not most places
olive marlin
I paid 2350 PLN. The day I got email they cancel my order, cheapest I found was 3300 PLN iirc?
When I was placing the order, I saw one for 2480PLN or so
spare venture
are there examples of cases where that exact situation was enforced? seems like such a stretch
olive marlin
I'd pay that price. I won't pay over 3K for it.
Yup.
A few cases, plenty of articles describing the law around this.
I mean, I didn't fully know them until 3 days ago.
spare venture
it just seems so crazy, you can be sued if your supply chain isn’t perfect..
like id understand if it was actually stated in a contract..
twin lagoon
@olive marlin 🥺
olive marlin
@twin lagoon 🥺
foggy silo
Hi Michael
twin lagoon
hello
waxen panther
HELLO MICHAEL
twin lagoon
BEST brocc
waxen panther
@twin lagoon 
foggy silo
☺️👋
twin lagoon
waxen panther
best michel !
olive marlin
Our Civil Code describes what is allowed and what is not when making a Civil contract. So no, it doesn't, as it's our right.
twin lagoon
waxen panther
why are you still awake ?
twin lagoon
yes
twin lagoon
working
waxen panther
zz
olive marlin
@twin lagoon eat some pierogies and go to sleep?
twin lagoon
pierogis 
foggy silo
Not a bad choice
olive marlin
I haven't had pierogis or Kabanosy in so long, since now I get my diet delivered 😔
But it's gonna be Christmas soon, which means lots of homemade pierogies 🤤
foggy silo
I haven't had pierogis or Kabanosy in so long, since now I get my diet delivered...
Delivered?
Is it like those services that send you ingredients and recipes?
olive marlin
Every night they leave 5 meals for the whole day at my front door.
foggy silo
Oh!
olive marlin
No, we sadly don't have them here.
twin lagoon
right now why the fuck does pterodactyl break java 17 cpu detection
olive marlin
I did research, found 3 but all were not existing when I wanted to order.
twin lagoon
"CpuPeriod": 100000,
"CpuQuota": -1,
and why does openjdk still use a jira version from like 1995
worn ember
Didnt know i was logged in on snoopas account
olive marlin
Oh, I forgot that the site I ordered from (Amazon competitor) has buyer protection and they can pay me if I didn't receive the item. Then they'll go after the seller independently 
foggy silo
So there ya go
olive marlin
Anyway, sleep time. Need to have energy to respond to them later.
foggy silo
Gn!!
foggy elbow
me scrolling on the whole discord to find how are overall 1.18 performances compared to 1.17, but can’t find a real answer 
foggy silo
What you need to know:
The worlds are much taller
More ram, more storage, more cpu!
Yum 😍
foggy elbow
More cpu yes, but if it’s not on the main thread
foggy elbow
So overall performances won’t be better I imagine
pale river
slightly worse performance
pale river
mojang's optimizations really don't matter, they haven't done anything paper hasn't already done yet
foggy elbow
Well compared to 1.17, it isn’t as good.
Okay :/
Hope 1.18.X can help (don’t hope)
pale river
maybe eventually they will catch up and get to optimizing new stuff so it isn't a waste, but for now they are still playing catch up
foggy silo
I wouldn’t, most of the slowdowns are caused by some of the quite major changes.
foggy elbow
mojang's optimizations really don't matter, they haven't done anything paper has...
Paul said they added up to 30% performances on some mobs Ticking/AI
Or something like that
foggy silo
Mojang?
lean kiln
they removed some streams in places we already were
foggy silo
Like moving around booleans, or using maps instead of lists
pale river
they made collisions faster in vanilla but paper already did that
foggy elbow
He told it could be up to 30% better in the best case
foggy elbow
they made collisions faster in vanilla but paper already did that
Yeah was that !
lean kiln
Like moving around booleans, or using maps instead of lists <:delawhere:78372228...
or immutablelist builders instead of streams 
pale river
still can't read 1.14 collision code lmao
lean kiln
those immutable list builders almost have as much or more overhead
pale river
it's so overcomplicated for no good reason. porting 1.12 collision code was easier than figuring out what the fuck mojang was thinking.
foggy silo
Mojang is fun
foggy elbow
Goats are more heavier than bees were ? Ahaha
magic river
foggy elbow
I remember when 10 bees were 5% of my server tick with 50 players on 1.15
foggy silo
You haven’t seen GOATS
foggy elbow
Have you seen that lovely goat jumping code
Just disable jumping 
foggy silo
Well you can do it thankfully with paper config
foggy elbow
foggy silo
I love that
foggy elbow
Maybe for my skyblock server 1.18 will be better than 1.17, as it has less issues with worlds
foggy silo
Well as Minecraft grows it inevitability gets more expensive
viscid wedge
I've never understood the appeal of vanilla skyblock
foggy elbow
I manage skyblock since 2012, before it was uncommon
Now…
It’s the pvp faction of 2021
warm anchor
it's pretty boring I guess most people just want time waster
foggy elbow
it's pretty boring I guess most people just want time waster
It depends.
I try to do things that change from other server, but change « main things ».
But of course you’ll have à majority of the gameplay that is common on all server
Now it’s « oneblock » not skyblock
void void
whats the best looking shader
foggy silo
Bedrock 😩😩
viscid wedge
LumiLights is quite good, though I have a feeling you won't like it lmao
Not compatible with Optifine or Iris
foggy elbow
I don’t use shaders, it makes my GPU overheating
I used the common chocapic shaders, pretty fine
With a good 256x faithfull like
viscid wedge
64x is the highest I go, anything more is just uncanny
I don't think Minecraft was designed with high levels of detail in mind
foggy elbow
The one I use is perfect to me, I used 64x faithfull for 6 years before
foggy elbow
I don't think Minecraft was designed with high levels of detail in mind
It depends
I couldn’t use less than 32x32
viscid wedge
Yeah, no thanks lmao
foggy elbow
And no real pack are fine except faithfull
spare venture
i like default textures
viscid wedge
I tried 16x once and while it's kinda entertaining, it's not pleasant
fallen oracle
Sir that's for classes.
languid karma
You guys go to sleep?
foggy silo
You guys go to sleep?
He’s humans require temporary subconscious
void void
https://twitter.com/SpigotDrama/status/1468747224146341888?t=dqBcKj1g6EDi2HxJLtN...
not a ddos, just a dos
md_5 uses ms-dos to ping fabric website over and over again
viscid wedge
DoS = denial of service
DDoS = distributed denial of service
the latter has participants in various areas
@void void
magic river
Dunno if I'll ever wear these out of the house but I had to get them
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(t-shirts)
foggy veldt
Bing bong
I think meme tees are fine as long as they are white
Like I have a teen Britney Spears tee and I wear it out frequently
marsh charm
what java does minecraft ship with their launcher? like openjdk/or some enterprise one or what
elfin steppe
vale saddle
recommended worldedit for spigot/paper 1.17.1?
warm anchor
worldedit?
warm anchor
yeah worldedit
vale saddle
oh okay
potent fossil
vale saddle
FastAsyncWorldEdit
potent fossil
im aware of what it is
vale saddle
oh okay
potent fossil
why ask for advice though if you plan to just ignore it
vale saddle
What advice is "worldedit" though
vale saddle
Worldedit is a general term though, there are many versions of it
void void
silly goose
viscid wedge
paper client
Just use Lithium, Sodium, Starlight, Krypton, Ferrite, and Alternate Current
Close enough
spare venture
expecting papermc members to be critical thinkers
this convo actually made me realize why i am not in this discord most of the time. my life is better when i avoid reading this
viscid wedge
This server isn't even bad, go read Purpur or Airplane
spare venture
the more mainstream something is, the worse the general channels are gonna be
im not saying any are better, im just saying paper general hits different
viscid wedge
Usually the real idiots get laughed out of here
potent fossil
?
spare venture
you havent been here long enough
potent fossil
i was joking lmao
spare venture
Worldedit is a general term though, there are many versions of it
.
potent fossil
oh yeah that kinda blew my mind
viscid wedge
How long have you been here chad? I joined months ago.
potent fossil
he was here under a different name a looooong time ago
viscid wedge
Ah
vale saddle
there are multiple terms for it, because they're all based on the OG
yes, and some are more stable than others, but I don't have time to test them all out. That's why I am asking what you guys would recommend.
potent fossil
i would recommend the OG
vale saddle
Thanks
spare venture
worldedit is always going ot be the only answer
spare venture
but temruin is also the same thing? i dont know man
spare venture
well adoptopenjdk is dead
potent fossil
i guess to temurin i go
spare venture
its the same thing
Eclipse Temurin is the name of the OpenJDK distribution from Adoptium.
idk why they didnt just call it Adoptium
potent fossil
yeah i know, just need to figure out what to install with sdkman cause they have a fuckload of candidates
spare venture
id assume temurin
the past year for jdks has been very confusing
everryone has one now
viscid wedge
i have made a grave error
do not google search libertybans and go under videos
(very nsfw)
potent fossil
spare venture
what the fuck
viscid wedge
temurin is the new adoptopenjdk right
yes
that's what Adoptium calls their JDK distribution
spare venture
oh at least its censored
potent fossil
alright
spare venture
ium so glad you shared this with me /s
viscid wedge
they kinda rebranded twice over the span of a month or two
caused a lot of end user confusion lmao
viscid wedge
yeah i know, just need to figure out what to install with sdkman cause they have...
TIL of sdkman. Thanks!
viscid wedge
damn they have JDKs I've never even heard of
potent fossil
yea, they have many lol
potent fossil
🤔 indeed
viscid wedge
this sounds bizarre. time to go down a rabbit hole.
rugged kernel
anyone know of any warden plugins or datapacks or somethin for 1.18
silver nexus
formal turret
one plus got ripped 😔 🪦
potent fossil
intellij really does not want to play with jdk 17 rn
gradle is shitting the bed repeatedly
formal turret
a timeless classic
spare venture
i’m able to use temurin on my project with 17
south matrix
trying to get this going on my worker with no luck, it shows me a blank page, if i navigate to url.com/test it tells me paste of name 'test' not found so it seems to be there, just not working https://github.com/SharzyL/pastebin-worker
potent fossil
worked for me https://shz.al/AjRE
south matrix
his example one works, but i couldn't get it going for myself
potent fossil
well gg i guess
coarse lily
<@!188417437295706113>
What
swift root
What happened
OxygenOS 12 seems to have been released for a bunch of people who all seem to hate it for a variety of valid reasons
It's like dumbOS12
plucky sparrow
I have noticed that
potent fossil
Good thing I LOVE Larry for a variety of valid reasons
swift root
Good thing I **LOVE** Larry for a variety of valid reasons
A very good thing indeed
plucky sparrow
I’ve also seen people call it just colorOS with a skin on top
fallen oracle
I sense some favoritism going on.
swift root
Hmmm? I don't know where how or why
In really glad I ordered a pixel 6 and not a new OnePlus now
viscid wedge
relatable
golden gust
paste of name test not found
Er, well, did you erm, create such a paste?
Like, if you're expecting it to just be hosted from /test, you may need to see if you can configure how the app recieves that stuff
ashen cliff
10cm of snow on the road.
My car keys missing.
Ah yes, someone is going to have a fun experience today.
ashen cliff
I legit went back to bed.
Someone else didn't. And somehow, my car, without traction control, was the best idea to take out.
golden gust
some people just live for the frill
reminds me of tech connections brother, aging wheels
He had a car which the steering alignment was completely out, so, he'd be driving down the road and all of a sudden one side would grip more and pick a random direction, basically
if you ever need something to take you up in the morning, you know
ashen cliff
Well, can't really send a FWD car.
I'm just expecting the keys back and the car to be long gone.
mellow quiver
<:thonkeng:682672656067198981>
dcevm is very useful
highly recommend looking into it
don't know if there's ever going to be a trava build for j17 but don't really need one, jetbrains runtime includes dcevm too now so you can use that + hotswapagent
viscid wedge
yeah, I was looking, seems interesting
viscid wedge
dcevm is very useful
what's an example use case of it?
golden gust
and, less limited than the build in hotspot stuff
Not to say that it doesn't have its own set of issues
mellow quiver
- Adding/removing methods
- Adding/removing static and instance fields
- Adding supertypes
golden gust
jrebel was muuuuuuuch better, but, free is free
vernal moth
holy shit that background
mellow quiver
yeah idk why discord does that
golden gust
oh god
I, did a horrible thing and opened twitter
#DickOut was trending and I was just like, wait, wu... tf
turned out that people are calling for booting out the "Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis since 2017", Cressida Dick
limber knotBOT
dude
i was just fucking existing when my eyes decided they didnt want me to see anymore
and just went tv static
like yeah it went away after a while but that's fucking terrifying dude
vernal moth
am still in love
is there something better than deploying an update to software you thought about for ages and spend ages implementing and then when its finally working in prod, look at the nerd porn
sex is nice and stuff, but I have been literally smiling non stop since first seeing the drop, lol
vernal moth
refactor and add a well thought out cache
mental meadow
