#general

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limber knotBOT
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make the cache your servers

tropic flame
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just cache your website on cloudflare once and then stay indefinitely offline

golden gust
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So, I know that I tipple my words sometimes, if that upsets you, I have a challenge for you

potent fossil
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i couldnt watch after the first one

limber knotBOT
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an book

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which in my life is pretty much every single thing all the time

tropic flame
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do you guys know why knife manufacturers are so innovative?

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it's because they always come out with cutting edge technology.

golden gust
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0/10

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If you're not already a father, I'd be tryna trace all those whom you've done the dance with as that's a sign

potent fossil
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cat, most people here are like 14 or 15

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they're not old fucks like we are

golden gust
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I come from a council estate

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they should already be considering the 2nd now!

potent fossil
golden gust
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You know, surprisingly, there was only 1 pregnancy scare that I recall during school

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meanwhile, I was a pregnancy scare

potent fossil
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i was the only child my parents actually planned and i have 3 siblings

vernal moth
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Doesn't help if a single request is already too slow

sharp sentinel
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One thing we had an issue with at work, was that we didn't have metrics around time for internal requests (stuff like internal staff making changes etc)

That's fine as it doesn't touch the customer - but if the servers are being delayed for 3 seconds, every request the load balancer sent to that server is delayed too

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We were seeing small blips in request latency that was very regional, turns out it was an internal automated task doing a large data retrieval and causing delays to one specific server

vernal moth
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I can't recommend instana enough

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The insights it gives are insane

limber knotBOT
vernal moth
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This morning vs yesterday morning

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76% reduction in mean latency

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I also can trace every single of those 13k calls thru all my systems

golden gust
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oh god, I just found the longer version of a classic vine

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) xkcd: The Last Molecule (8 December 2021)

potent fossil
marble lark
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probably loss of circulation to the optic nerve, should go see a doctor if it happens on a regular basis

half hawk
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OH NO, ITS DEC 9TH

potent fossil
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medical advice in paper general Sussy

potent fossil
void void
potent fossil
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that's the only good advice in t here

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the 'probably loss of circulation to the optic nerve' is very sus

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even an ophthalmologist would not say that without examining lol

marble lark
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i mean i'm not in the netherlands so i have no idea what's really happening lel

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did tell her to go to a doctor though

potent fossil
marble lark
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is that

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is that ma boi thurston

mental meadow
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i diagnose her with dumb

summer rivet
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anyone know how to use overlays in MCAselector?
I want to show ChunkBukkitValues -> pluginname:key, min = 1, max = 200
but idk how todo it

potent fossil
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alright i gotta sleep, i have a thing to be up for tomorrow and it is not good that im still awake(TM)

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bai

marble lark
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night simple

olive marlin
ashen cliff
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Oh cool OnePlus 5 all over again.

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At least I know my OP5 can call 911... even by accident. kekwhyper

marble lark
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rip anyone being stalked by a killer lel

limber knotBOT
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Sherman: mom (doctor) thought it was to me not being fully healthy, breating in cold air rapidly cuz i had to hurry to the bus stop and not having had the time to eat breakfast

blazing flicker
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best damn song ever

limber knotBOT
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electronicboy, this one's for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh32sanojSk

YouTube
Kosmik Jukebox
Allan Holdsworth - Wardenclyffe Tower (1992) Full Album

A gem from Holdsworth's repertoire. Mainly jazz, but with a good space to ambient and electronic passages.

00:00 5 To 10
05:37 Sphere Of Innocence
11:35 Wardenclyffe Tower
20:20 Dodgy Boat
25:58 Zarabeth
32:30 Against The Clock
37:28 Questions
41:36 Oneiric Moor

Credits:

Composed By – Allan Holdsworth (tracks: 1 to 3, 5, 6, 8)...

▶ Play video
marble lark
tropic flame
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why is this so funny

20211209_103911.jpg
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what the fuck LMFAO

golden gust
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lol

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I mean, this stuff is often just produced by random people who have the means to print shirts

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especially if you can get people who don't care about licensing, and even more so if you're potentially doing stuff like that

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The joy is that most people wearing stufflike that will be doing it for the kicks, like, album artist shirts

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Not to say that there aren't some artists who have shirts out there which are dope af that you'd wanna wear even if you hated the band to all heck

limber knotBOT
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sadly the print quality on my frums tshirt was horrible

ashen cliff
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Papa Franko.

foggy silo
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Hello paper general

mental meadow
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krusic how are you?

ashen cliff
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I'm alright. Still suffering a bit.

mental meadow
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still in hospital?

ashen cliff
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Nope. Been home for about a week now.

foggy silo
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Yea I hope ur doing better

quick pasture
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Ay get well soon

waxen panther
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@ashen cliff

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best krusic

little frost
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hello Broccolai

twin lagoon
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best broccolai

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BEST @untold meadow

little frost
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best @untold meadow

ashen cliff
quasi valley
quick pasture
waxen panther
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LMFAO

vernal moth
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I love that meme

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Let's see how well they age

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Isn't Russia planning to invade Ukraine?

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And china still pretends Taiwan is part of china too

half hawk
void void
golden gust
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woooooo

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our YK licenses have expired \o/

half hawk
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what is that?

vernal moth
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Yourkit, profiler

vernal moth
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Who is gonna call them?

twin lagoon
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yourkit does their 100 eur commercial licenses in january right

golden gust
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yea, but, we get free ones

half hawk
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can anybody link that offline-mode bingo card

foggy silo
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Oh right paper gets free ones

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Yea I bought an education license a while about

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Your kit is pretty nice software

void void
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If you do a full render on dynmap does it show everything

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Or just chunks that have been loaded

half hawk
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i think it renders the whole world

worn ember
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it only loads generated chunks

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it cant magically know what those chunks will be without them being generated lol

mental meadow
worn ember
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linus is happy now

half hawk
mental meadow
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on one hand the beanies and mouse pads are in stock, on the other hand I kinda wanna wait until the maybe finally release the nice screwdriver

waxen panther
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@ jake when

mental meadow
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free ltt merch for community managers when

limber knotBOT
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free ltt merch for core team

mental meadow
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no

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i'm not core

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and mini already has enough

limber knotBOT
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i mean paper team

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my brain slow

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run at 1Hz

mental meadow
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i see my diagnosis was spot on

limber knotBOT
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yes

hexed dragon
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My brain blank

limber knotBOT
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you have brain?

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damn

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jealous

hexed dragon
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No me bot

limber knotBOT
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i have migrated shogicraft to java 17 because im too lazy to support any version but latest

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wee

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intellij and gradle screamed at me

vernal moth
limber knotBOT
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i am still using a cheap Action mousepad

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vertically.

hexed dragon
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Mini needs more?

foggy silo
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Hey Naomi

limber knotBOT
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Hey Owen

worn ember
mental meadow
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I don't need a desk mat, but it would be nice to have one 😄 I do want a water bottle and a beanie tho

vernal moth
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Aren't the beanies always sold out anyways?

unreal tendon
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What's the best server client including a decent front end in your guys opinions? Preferably running in a docker container

mental meadow
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I was looking at shoes because as I found out today my sneakers are
1 - not really good thermal insulators
2 - not watertight (thanks 15cm snow over night) and I think I found the perfect ones

mental meadow
worn ember
mental meadow
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ofc

plucky sparrow
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Time to code in dart

IMG_3508.png
worn ember
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ive had them for like 7 years or so

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they just keep going lmao, cant break down plastic

mental meadow
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meanwhile the other end of the spectrum in case I wanna drop a car on my feet

unknown.png
worn ember
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do they have steel toes?

plucky sparrow
plucky sparrow
mental meadow
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steel toes, heat resistance up to 300C, oil/gasoline resistant. you know, if you have to walk through burning gasoline

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happens to me all the time

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just yesterday

worn ember
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you'd be surprised how often that happens dupekappa

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exactly

mental meadow
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they look kinda pretty tho?

worn ember
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not bad

foggy silo
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How ya doing!?

limber knotBOT
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fixing minecraft shogi to make it slightly more performant

worn ember
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why

foggy silo
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Thinking

limber knotBOT
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because it's borked and ugly

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and i have nothing else to do

foggy silo
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I’m in class rn, gonna get ready for exams. x)

limber knotBOT
foggy silo
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Interesting, what game is this?

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Idk what shogi is x)

limber knotBOT
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it's chess

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but japanese and better

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but yeah i realised i can make a lot of methods in shogicraft static yesterday night lol

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decreased jar size by 2kb

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cool, that's all fixed now

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i can release 1.0.2

marble lark
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not the static inner classes

worn ember
marble lark
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oh

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i thought it worked different under the hood too

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kek

worn ember
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not that i know of

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and i wished Enums in C# were more like in java haha

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they can only have numeric values in C#

foggy silo
marble lark
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i have almost never used enums before in any language so i can't tell xd

foggy silo
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Enums in java kinda are pain sometimes

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I really wish they supported generic types

limber knotBOT
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why do you want an enum of T

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that's cursed

foggy silo
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No like

marble lark
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lel

foggy silo
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Ok look at JEP 302

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Basically being able to

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enum Argument<T>

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THING_1<Integer>()

trim nova
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We need 1.18 ASAP

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Does anyone know release date?

limber knotBOT
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.downloads

worn ember
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maybe open your eyes if ur so needy

limber knotBOT
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^

trim nova
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Not experimental tho

limber knotBOT
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well tough luck

crystal lilyBOT
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__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
trim nova
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my server crashes every 30 mins

foggy silo
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Then report those crashes

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Not here

worn ember
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report them so they can fix it lol

trim nova
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Hm

limber knotBOT
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my test server still has not crashed a single time B)

marble lark
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welp it's Paper + a new version of minecraft, should be expected xd

limber knotBOT
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  • a new version of Java
worn ember
limber knotBOT
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rtp devs:

worn ember
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true

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i blame deez nuts

marble lark
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kinda sucks that I can't compile the JVM with gcc on windows though

limber knotBOT
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use clang!

worn ember
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Me wanting to test stuff on 1.17: sorry we only support up to j15, ok starts server with j15, sorry your plugin has been compiled with a newer version of java
me: reeee

limber knotBOT
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wat

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isn't 1.17 j16

foggy silo
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1.17 uses java 17

marble lark
# limber knot use clang!

i use the ucrt gcc branch of mingw cuz it uses the newer Microsoft runtime library and it's kinda convenient

limber knotBOT
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whatever im gonna play roblos and wait for The Boys™ to join

marble lark
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don't really feel like using clang yet, and even if i did you can't compile the JVM with clang either on Windows :/

limber knotBOT
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how come

marble lark
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# These toolchains are valid on different platforms
VALID_TOOLCHAINS_linux="gcc clang"
VALID_TOOLCHAINS_macosx="gcc clang"
VALID_TOOLCHAINS_aix="xlc"
VALID_TOOLCHAINS_windows="microsoft"
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yeah I've tried tricking the configure script into thinking that gcc is a valid windows compiler before and it ends up trying to run gcc as MSVC lmao

hexed dragon
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Minecraft Now in 2 hours.

vernal moth
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U gonna give us a summary afterwards?

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Cause like, I refuse to listen to TikTok people

foggy silo
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x) for real

mossy vessel
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Cause like, I refuse to listen to TikTok period

limber knotBOT
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haha sherman you have to use msvc

marble lark
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well to compile the JVM anyway

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i use ucrt otherwise

unreal tendon
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still can't find a decent front end/minecraft server manager

twin lagoon
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pterodactyl

unreal tendon
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thanks man, that looks like exactly what i was looking for

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attempted to install AMP earlier bc it said it was free, aparently hasnt been free in forever

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  • finishes install process
  • asks for key
worn ember
unreal tendon
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oof

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did the grub thing for wings and killed the server lmao

faint crystal
unreal tendon
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aaaannndd, it was something running on my pc blocking lan connections

void void
faint crystal
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ah

spare venture
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hesitancy to do it if mojang is going to do it differently i’d assume

red timber
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The patch, in general, is fine, afaik the only real remaining issues are tryna deal with the side-effects of ID 10 T

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won't be ever merged probably, because there's no way to make spigot shit itself when it sees zstd/lz4 region files

golden gust
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The thing was brought up with mojang and they seemed kinda interested in it, but it puts us into this fun weird position where, say, if you go back to vanilla, it'll just toast the world more or less (and we've already had enough issues with people doing similar things to their worlds and expecting a "fix"), as well as the annoyance of having a patch which is literally "if (compressionType = 123) compressionType = 1" forever in the codebase

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We've already got that horror with the oversized regions patch in which we're probs gonna need to maintain for eternity

marble lark
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if (compressionType = 123) compressionType = 1
xd

terse tangle
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Hey, I was just trying out the new 1.18 release, but it keeps crashing (only in certain regions though, and after a random time). Going off the stacktrace, the error should be coming from this part random.nextFloat(100.00F / level.spigotConfig.glowBerryModifier) (https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/blob/7c8fdc1fb60212217e26040593b03d30642b5bcd/patches/server/0820-Fix-kelp-modifier-changing-growth-for-other-crops.patch#L28). Looking online shows nextFloat shouldn't have a parameter. I am running this inside the openjdk 17 alpine docker image. Am I missing something?

GitHub
Paper/0820-Fix-kelp-modifier-changing-growth-for-other-crops.patch ...

High performance Spigot fork that aims to fix gameplay and mechanics inconsistencies - Paper/0820-Fix-kelp-modifier-changing-growth-for-other-crops.patch at 7c8fdc1fb60212217e26040593b03d30642b5bcd...

void void
terse tangle
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Sure, one moment

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BTW, this happened on both an existing world, as well as a new one

void void
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the argument nextFloat takes should be the maximum value it can return btw

waxen panther
spiral robin
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Zzz

foggy silo
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Hi!!

warm anchor
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@spiral robin final over?

spiral robin
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3 more, 2 today 1 tomorrow

spare venture
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i wonder how much zstd or LZ4 compression of region files speeds chunk loading up? it would also be nice to have smaller region files

spiral robin
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Thank you for asking tho ❤️

spare venture
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compressing/decompressing with zstd is so much faster than gzip

potent fossil
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Good morning

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I'm tired as fuck

warm anchor
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go back to sleep

muted current
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Same

warm anchor
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💤

potent fossil
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No

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I have to go to campus soon and blow up liquid nitrogen with my professor

magic river
tough ledge
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Results please

magic river
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Well, I guess I don't know if they were measuring decompression of cached/in memory data or the whole loading and decompression process

tough ledge
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Where can I find them?

magic river
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I think Paper should at least do the tweak to zlib compression level

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It makes the compression ratio and decompression times very slightly worse but cuts the compression time in half

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Although those numbers might be different on 1.18

spiral robin
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@twin lagoon @warm anchor TT_02pats TT_happy

spare venture
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googles ads are so infuriating, finding actual results is such a pita sometimes

foggy silo
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I have my French final x)

spare venture
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i had to scroll 2x the window size to get to the first actual result on googling “ups label creator”

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actually the first page has 9/12 links as ads. the first 5, then the final 4…

dawn pond
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when do you think purpur will come

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because my server is fully optimized on paper 1.18

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and gets 11 tps on 8 people

foggy silo
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This is paper, we don’t know.

twin lagoon
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purpur doesn't do shit for optimization

foggy silo
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^ that too

dawn pond
twin lagoon
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if you get 11 tps on paper you'll get 11 tps on purpur

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they don't

dawn pond
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yes they do they have different software

foggy silo
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Yea rly they don’t

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They just offer a bunch of extra features

dawn pond
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i launched three servers before

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same specs

foggy silo
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But not optimizations

twin lagoon
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it's based off of paper and the only thing they add is bloatware that should've been in a plugin

dawn pond
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on paper it lagged like crazy

foggy silo
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Your testing is improper.

dawn pond
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then i finaslly discorver purpur

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and used same optimizations

twin lagoon
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that was probably before tuinity was merged into paper

waxen panther
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propaganda

dawn pond
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and i get steady 20 tps

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on more people

twin lagoon
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was that 1.16 or 1.17 when you found out about purpur

dawn pond
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1.17

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and purpur has a tps ctach up system

twin lagoon
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spigot has tps catchup too

waxen panther
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you dont know what you're talking about

foggy silo
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Yea..

dawn pond
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basically of a server tps drops

foggy silo
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Purpur just let’s you disable it

dawn pond
foggy silo
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This literally has existed for years

dawn pond
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bruh this is how much my server is using

twin lagoon
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that's normal

dawn pond
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out of what imgiving it

limber knotBOT
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ok

foggy silo
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I’m not sure what you are expecting out of this convo x)

twin lagoon
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tuinity was merged into paper on 2021-08-31 so if you used purpur before that it makes sense

dawn pond
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yea until

twin lagoon
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well, provide timings

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chuck em in paper-help

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someone will figure your shit out

dawn pond
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so its not server performance

void void
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Used*

foggy silo
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It uses to be based on airplane and trinity

waxen panther
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trinity

twin lagoon
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brocc 🥺

foggy silo
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😠

dawn pond
waxen panther
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micheal ?

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x

foggy silo
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Typing without looking on keyboard

dawn pond
foggy silo
twin lagoon
void void
waxen panther
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dude what are you even talking about

twin lagoon
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so i don't see much wrong

dawn pond
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its nto using it

twin lagoon
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that's normal

dawn pond
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its how much it can use

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but it dioesnt need it

twin lagoon
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correct

foggy silo
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Hi broc!! 😍

waxen panther
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i can assure you michael knows at least 1000000x more about servers than you

twin lagoon
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your server doesn't need more

waxen panther
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hello OWEN !

twin lagoon
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it will use up more when it needs to

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it does not need to

dawn pond
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yea but it does have more

twin lagoon
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it has more yes

dawn pond
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yet with paper every single server i used with it

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it got 11 tps

twin lagoon
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provide timings

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and someone will help you out

dawn pond
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whwn i crossed 10 players on

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i do have timings

twin lagoon
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then send them

dawn pond
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its saying entity

twin lagoon
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send them

dawn pond
twin lagoon
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severely outdated version of 1.18

void void
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  1. You're 30 builds behind, update
waxen panther
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timing cost 250 lmao

dawn pond
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oh but ist enity count

twin lagoon
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flags: -Xms128M -Xmx20000M
use equal xms & xmx memory allocations

dawn pond
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that breaks it

waxen panther
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??

dawn pond
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oh

twin lagoon
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check your sheep count / use farmlimiter

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what are you hosting this on, 900 entities shouldn't be an issue for most cpus

peak dirge
dawn pond
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the hsoting im using

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doesnt show what specs

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but im pretty sure its from hetzner

waxen panther
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😬

twin lagoon
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that's a red flag already

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what host are you using

dawn pond
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witehr hosting its not a red flag

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my friend works there

twin lagoon
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the fact that you don't know your cpu is a red flag

dawn pond
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hes also my dev

void void
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Not telling your customers which hardware you're using is a big red flag ^

dawn pond
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maybe they do

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but idk where to check

twin lagoon
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why not ask your friend

waxen panther
twin lagoon
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they indeed do not mention it anywhere on their pricing page, that's a major red flag

void void
twin lagoon
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okay that's better

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are you on budget or premium @dawn pond

dawn pond
twin lagoon
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no it gives you an entirely different cpu

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if you use budget, that's the reason you're lagging

dawn pond
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oh yea

twin lagoon
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if you use premium you have a different issue

dawn pond
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its not

waxen panther
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mf

twin lagoon
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if you use budget you're getting a shit cpu that you also have to share with other customers

dawn pond
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cause if you didn't read what i sent

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my freiends works there

twin lagoon
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ok

dawn pond
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he gave me a main domain

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and he trys to keep me

waxen panther
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bad news

dawn pond
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on an unoccupied node

waxen panther
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your friend gave you a shitty server

twin lagoon
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look if you're on a budget server it's simple

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you have a horrible CPU that will not handle 1.18 properly

dawn pond
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dude its not the node

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its not even using

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the specs

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i give it

twin lagoon
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the cpu usage you're looking at is irrelevant

waxen panther
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that's not how this works

twin lagoon
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if it was that simple everyone would be using raspberry pis to host their servers

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you have a cpu from 2011

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designed for stuff like webhosting

dawn pond
twin lagoon
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yes, that's horrible for minecraft

void void
dawn pond
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what about a i7-7700 intel

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cpu

twin lagoon
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that's better

dawn pond
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hmm

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would 15 gb of ram be enouygh for the server

twin lagoon
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plenty

dawn pond
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ok maybe i should ugrade to premium

twin lagoon
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you definitely should if you want consistent, good performance on 1.18

dawn pond
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hmm ok

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this would be better?

twin lagoon
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the 5950x is one of the best cpus you can get yes

dawn pond
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one sec

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im talking with my friend

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i wanted to end my life when server start first lagging

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we made such a great launch

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and 48 people

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then lag

twin lagoon
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i want to end my life after this conversation in paper general too

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so that's understandable

void void
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relatable

viral hornet
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@twin lagoon tacoplead

twin lagoon
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@viral hornet pleataco

dawn pond
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lol

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so server is gonna be 30 dollars plus dev costs 16 dollars

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pain

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the only reason i use wither hosting is cause of multi servers

twin lagoon
#

bloomhost has that aswell

#

and it's a lot better of a host

dawn pond
#

i have an i7-700 cpu and 32 gb ram server under my feet

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but my ip chnages alot

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and last time i used it

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a team called whitelist team

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ddosed my home network

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every time ip resets and i connect it to teh domain

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it gets ddosed

twin lagoon
dawn pond
#

like elgit

waxen panther
void void
#

Use a service like tcpshield then

dawn pond
#

these morons set up a bot

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yea i did

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but it causes lag

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so i would turn it off secretly

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but these guys set up a bot

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that pings my domain every two hours

spare venture
#

this is as bad to say as calling purpur having better performance IMO

dawn pond
#

and ddoses that

spare venture
#

wow great quote discord very good

spare venture
dawn pond
#

legit absolute no life's

twin lagoon
#

what

spare venture
twin lagoon
#

what

dawn pond
#

they set up a bot to ddos my domain every two hours

#

when i used my own server to host

spare venture
#

just pointing it out, not gonna argue about it

waxen panther
#

i dont understand your sentence tbh barty

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can you rephrase it

#

maybe im just tired

spare venture
#

sure, it was a rough sentence. i’m saying michael saying purpur is bloatware and adds stuff that should only be done with plugins is in my opinion just as bad and misinformed as that guy saying that purpur is a performance fork

waxen panther
#

thank you, that makes more sense

twin lagoon
#

that does make more sense yes i was actually confused about your sentence

void void
#

Do you really need a feature that damages you if you run with scissors in your hands though...

spice ether
#

I mean it's dangerous to run around with scissors...

spare venture
#

it definitely adds stuff that can be done via plugins, but it also adds api, bug fixes, and stuff that is really hard to do via plugins

void void
spare venture
#

so i guess you can call it bloat if that’s what you consider bloat, but there’s a lot of stuff in there that can’t be done via plugin

spice ether
#

Just joking around never used purper

remote oxide
#

Wait so I have a question about paper 1.18

#

Where nay I ask

waxen panther
limber knotBOT
#

I feel like extremely modding gameplay directly in the server instead of implementing API which plugins could utilise the same doesn't really help the overall ecosystem

remote oxide
spare venture
#

one example is there’s an option to prevent mushroom blocks, note blocks, etc from having their block states update. not really easy to do via plugin because a ton of redstone stuff causes block state updates without sending physics updates/events

limber knotBOT
#

(but even that is just not all about it, they add some api too so ¯_(ツ)_/¯)

spare venture
#

rideables also sound really difficult to do without modifying the server itself

limber knotBOT
#

just implement a Entity#setControlling(Player) thinksmart

spare venture
#

helps with recipes a lot

limber knotBOT
#

just steal it

#

runs

spare venture
#

i really don’t want to have to maintain my own fork on top of everything else. i have been working on a major plugin rewrite on my server for almost 3 months now

limber knotBOT
#

(I was more taliking about stealing it for Paper/Spigot xD)

spare venture
#

oh yeah if purpur ever dies i will be really annoying

frank otter
#

does anyone know docker I have a new problem with it

#

about accessing localhost properly

#

and why I can't

limber knotBOT
#

because they are containers?

void void
#

localhost for the container or localhost for the host machine?

frank otter
#

host machine

limber knotBOT
#

the whole goal is NOT to expose your local stuff

frank otter
#

shhh

#

I know I can alias host.docker.internal or something

#

but the issue I'm having is

#

a container is running on say

#

and it can't

#

how do I fix?

limber knotBOT
#

set up the network interfaces it forwards properly I guess

frank otter
#

docker networks?

#

that's a section of compose I've never messed with

obtuse jasper
#

Hi guys. I want to install linux but idk which distro, I have a very small knowledge with ubuntu. I want this to be my "workstation". Any suggestions?

twin lagoon
#

pop os

frank otter
spice ether
void void
#

They actually changed it so you can no longer nuke those types of packages

spice ether
#

Lmao

obtuse jasper
#

wdym?

frank otter
#

wasn't there a website tracking the Linus patches

#

found it!

hexed dragon
#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNrtP4lNmAE Gets released before the update comes out what?

YouTube
slicedlime
What's New in Minecraft 1.18.1? Fixed Fog!

Minecraft 1.18.1 is here - the first bugfix update to the Caves & Cliffs Update. This video is a comprehensive guide to all the changes!

This is an unofficial update video that aims to be the most comprehensive guide possible. Official announcement: [ Coming Later ]

Ore Distribution changes: https://youtu.be/arNJJwUa8Q0
Texture Changes: https:...

▶ Play video
void void
#

I mean, lime is a mojangsta™️

#

So he probably knows if there are going to be any more changes before they push this out

hexed dragon
#

The twitter post is like 1.18.1 is out and it isn't.

ashen nacelle
#

the prerelease is out

hexed dragon
#

Where have you been?

#

It is on RC2

void void
hexed dragon
void void
#

the video is hidden

hexed dragon
#

or hidden but he did too early.

ashen nacelle
#

now ready for 1.19

The Wild Update is the name of an upcoming major themed update set to release in 2022 as Java Edition 1.19 and Bedrock Edition 1.19.0.[1] It adds the Deep Dark biome, along with the warden, sculk blocks and the Deep Dark Cities, and makes various other biomes more atmospheric and immersive in the world. In addition, it also introduces several new mobs and biomes variants.

spice ether
hexed dragon
#

yeah

left swift
#

deep dark? they buying out the mod?

spare venture
#

deep dark was supposed to be added in 1.17, maybe that mod was in response to it being delayed by years

left swift
#

deep dark dim mod has been around longer than 1.17

ashen nacelle
#

From Minecraft Wiki
Deep Dark
New biome at the "deepest depths of the world".
Originally planned for 1.17, then moved to 1.18, and was then postponed to 1.19 due to increased scope.
May not contain any water or lava aquifers.[26]
May be the rarest cave biome.[27]
Tends to generate under continental/mountainous areas.[28]
Generates exclusively within the deepslate layer between Y=-1 and Y=-64.[29]
Contains Deep Dark Cities.
Wardens can spawn there through the activation of sculk shriekers.
Contains all sculk-related blocks.
With the exception of spawners, no mobs other than wardens can spawn there, similar to mushroom fields.[19]
Deep Dark City[unofficial name]
New structure that generates within the Deep Dark.
Includes all of the Deep Dark features within it.
Made of deepslate and its variants, basalt blocks and its variants, planks, and wool.[30]
Contains soul sand, soul fire and soul lanterns.
Contains candles and skeleton skulls.
Contains chests with unique loot.[31]
The loot is intended to be items that cannot be found anywhere else, and that provide unique abilities and mechanics to players that weren't possible before and are not attainable by other methods.[32]
Contains the unknown frame block.
Has different levels and open spaces.
May have been built by an ancient civilization according to Brandon Pearce.[33]

left swift
#

am I thinking of a different mod?

#

isnt there a mod called deep dark where you build portal with compressed cobble and it has increased ore gen but hella mobs and the dark kills you

ashen nacelle
left swift
#

oh it's in extra utilities 2

#

https://ftb.fandom.com/wiki/Deep_Dark

Feed The Beast Wiki
Deep Dark

The Deep Dark is a dimension added by Extra Utilities 2.

 	 	 		 		 		 			The Deep Dark spawn room 		 	 
 	 	 		 		 		 			The Deep Dark viewed without Night Vision 		 	 
 	 	 		 		 		 			A rare patch of natural light in the Deep Dark 		 	 
 	 	 		 		 		 			The Deep Dark viewed with Night Vision

The Deep Dark is an endless cavern....

ashen nacelle
#

deep dark featuring deep dark city

1000.png
void void
plucky sparrow
#

wow

#

so fun

charred sleet
#

you know when you have a puzzle

#

and you are just so confused

#

that is me rn

lean knoll
#

Is the dude who made the deep dark dimension getting any credit for the new official deep dark

#

*dude or dudette

foggy silo
#

So I can throw a snowball at you!

#

I don’t need a bot for that

worn ember
#

thats where you dump your quarries and chill out

foggy silo
#

@void void ❄️delawhere

(I may have forgotten there is no snowball emoji wtf)

#

(But I threw a snowball at you)

worn ember
#

🏂

void void
#

Nelly_Snowball2_Nana @foggy silo

#

can we get this dumb bot added to here

#

won't cause chaos at all

foggy silo
#

Haha I got in I can fight back!!

ashen nacelle
#

anyone read r/maliciouscompliance?

viscid wedge
#

The naming is (probably) coincidental

#

It's just an underground biome, not a whole dimension

hexed dragon
#

Mojang looking for a Senior Artist

lean knoll
unkempt drift
hexed dragon
vernal moth
#

yes

unkempt drift
#

that's hilarious

lean knoll
#

one of those things as a modder, sure a company as big as Mojang/Microsoft have these ideas written down years before they even start dev

limber knotBOT
#

uh nice, github now has star lists

#

it's almost as if that was a feature that bookmarks have supported for 20 years now

#

runs

waxen panther
twin lagoon
#

😐

faint crystal
#

love this

unknown.png
viscid wedge
#

Eventually reading garbage gets boring and a little disheartening

#

Enjoy it while you can

faint crystal
hybrid sphinx
#

whats the bug?

dusk plover
#

Does this affect 1.16.3?

slate wasp
#

what is the exploit

warm phoenix
#

exploit? 👀

wooden wyvern
#

what were the exploit used?

vestal jasper
#

Why are you on 1.16.3 to begin with

main hound
#

well good that all my users use AutoPlug hehe

vestal chasm
#

lol i saw the ping and instantly knew it would be a security risk

pulsar sinew
#

so

nimble berry
#

The inconsistency between weewoo_red and weewoo_blue is triggering me

pulsar sinew
#

a log4j bug

#

gave LDAP access?

vestal chasm
burnt heart
#

what is this exploit

vestal chasm
#

what if someone else does it for u

simple karma
#

what does the exploit do?

vestal chasm
#

they probably wont say

#

untill later

potent panther
#

what was the exploit about?

vestal chasm
#

when people update

earnest geode
#

is vanilla also affected or just paper?

ashen nacelle
#

Backport log4j bugfix

hexed imp
#

my server is dead so this won't affect me

main hound
#

nice

potent panther
wooden wyvern
#

lol

red pier
#

who pinged me!

wooden wyvern
main hound
#

true

worn crest
#

there is 1.17 & 1.18... drop that old plugins xd

autumn spear
#

great; not sure what it is but there are currently 27 people on the SMP and idk what the issue is lmao

ashen nacelle
plucky sparrow
#

Paper general average IQ dropping quickly

viscid raven
main hound
#

-1

mild rune
#

I feel like I'm getting dumber

simple karma
#

who can exploit the exploit?

mild rune
void void
plucky sparrow
simple karma
#

like players or plugin devs?

mild rune
#

I'll miss you dap

magic river
plucky sparrow
maiden arch
opal ridge
#

what was this new exploit ?

shy oak
#

no i will not update my paper client, i like having a destroyed server pepeplan

vestal chasm
#

probably

#

yes

shy oak
#

client or whatever idc

plucky sparrow
#

They should’ve just locked down paper general for a few hours

vestal chasm
#

they dont want ppl discussing it

shy oak
#

exploit discord? pogey

vestal chasm
#

no

vivid basin
#

We all love zero day exploits

plucky sparrow
upper dew
#

I think it was a op exploit

plucky sparrow
#

Have you tried to use your brain

autumn spear
#

what the exploit so i can go shut down competition servers 😄

wild ether
#

what was the exploit

potent panther
#

there should be a channel for important announcments like this one

vestal chasm
upper dew
#

As i got random people getting op

#

It wont

cosmic raft
tropic flame
vestal chasm
void void
opal ridge
#

what was the exploit

mild rune
#

The CVE isn't even public yet lol

spark crown
#

what was the exploit?

vestal chasm
wild ether
#

yeah probably

potent panther
#

update to 1.17.1 via backwards

vestal chasm
#

im just gannna reply to that to everyone that asks

void void
#

the exploit seems to be very specific though

tropic flame
#

#announcements mfw 1.16.5 backport

please backport to Beta 1.7.3 i need kekw

plucky sparrow
light sandal
#

Sounds like just a crash exploit

vestal chasm
#

i fully understand

sage egret
#

Whats the exploit

potent panther
#

why

vestal chasm
jade light
#

It won't be disclosed

autumn spear
#

They are probaly going to release a 1.16.5 update in hours.

finite cipher
#

paper when???

sage egret
vestal chasm
autumn spear
#

just shut it down for now

vestal chasm
#

fix was already released

autumn spear
#

Fix is not released for 1.16.5 though

orchid granite
#

what was the exploit

mental meadow
#

Details of an exploit will not be discussed publicly

#

Update your stuff

main hound
#

makessense

void void
earnest geode
#

are older versions affected as well? is vanilla or spigot affected?

vestal jasper
#

By happy it was disclosed in the first place.

main hound
#

thats why i developed autoplug lol

cosmic raft
#

not being discussed

sage egret
#

I also wanna know

cosmic raft
#

drop it

autumn spear
#

yes or no

potent panther
#

oh ok you can use via version so people of higher versions can join

sage egret
#

The severity

mild rune
#

Just update your server and go on about your day kekw

vestal jasper
#

No. You're not getting an answer. Fuck off thanks.

main hound
#

if they make an announcement its severe

upper wharf
#

Just look at the commits on github :^)

tropic flame
ashen nacelle
#

Improper validation of certificate with host mismatch in Log4j2 SMTP appender. This could allow an SMTPS connection to be intercepted by a man-in-the-middle attack which could leak any log messages sent through that appender.

lone ember
#

where on the CVSS scale does this exploit place

tropic flame
#

otherwise just shut the fuck up y'all

lone ember
#

that's all I want to know

potent panther
#

maybe try again with newer 1.17.1 paper releases

ashen nacelle
#

CVSS Base Score: 3.7 (Low) CVSS:3.0/AV:N/AC:H/PR:N/UI:N/S:U/C:L/I:N/A:N

tropic flame
autumn spear
#

you need to know? lmao

mild rune
#

adam that's not the exploit lol

mental meadow
quick halo
opal ridge
mild rune
#

There probably wont be a CVE for a few days

lone ember
#

I'll keep an eye out for it then, sounds really interesting

vestal jasper
#

If y'all can't read them saying they won't give info, are y'all going to read the info they do give?

potent panther
#

oh ok

sterile wadi
#

Oh my wow

potent panther
#

report that to paper

viscid wedge
vagrant marlin
#

does the exploit affect 1.8.8 though

void void
#

What is the exploit?

vagrant marlin
#

1.8 lads you guys should update 🙄

void void
#

What was found?

sage egret
#

Meh someone will find out anyways and post it on YouTube for me to watch for fun bc i’m curious what it is since everyone got pinged

void void
earnest geode
#

it would be good to know which versions exactly are affected

sterile wadi
vagrant marlin
potent panther
earnest geode
#

a lot of people are running older version servers

viscid remnant
main hound
ashen nacelle
vagrant marlin
viscid remnant
#

Why would they fix it on 1.8 if its there?

whole prawn
#

whats the point of backporting to 1.16.5 considering people still on 1.16.5 probably wont update anyway

vagrant marlin
#

that is exactly the opposite of what i said

hot hamlet
viscid remnant
#

Fair

cursive whale
#

nice

void void
#

What is the exploit that is found?

viscid remnant
#

1.16-1.18 are the only fixed one.. maybe they're the only affected one i think

idle dirge
#

does the recent exploit affect spigot too or is it exclusive to some paper patch

void void
#

What that exploit does?

hot hamlet
#

Can we finally get rid of 1.8 servers

vagrant marlin
viscid remnant
#

Announcement.

rough mural
vagrant marlin
#

as far as i know, 1.8 does use log4j

#

and thats what is affected

dim jungle
#

does this affect the client aswell?

earnest geode
hot hamlet
#

hell yea

sterile wadi
#

I am in commtech class

upper wharf
#

The only reason that's semi justifyable for 1.8 is the better 300+ playercount performance compared to post 1.12.

potent panther
magic river
#

It probably affects every version since like 1.3 when they started using log4j2

hot hamlet
rotund portal
main hound
#

dafuq

potent panther
viscid remnant
rotund portal
magic river
#

Actually I think we always used log4j2 in CraftBukkit

void void
#

This seems like it, not sure though

magic river
#

So every version

vivid basin
rotund portal
main hound
#

we fucked

vagrant marlin
#

yeah, sharing the exploit here

void void
#

LOL

vagrant marlin
#

lets go!

vernal moth
#

Let's not share links please

viscid wedge
#

I read the commits, this should be a non issue if you're using properly vetted plugins and java 17

sterile wadi
#

Woah what was that link

mild rune
#

some of y'all are braindead

brazen marsh
#

It's titled backport log4j

This might have something to do with porting a newer version of log4j, a Java logging service, to older versions.

vernal moth
#

No sharing of exploits

viscid wedge
vernal moth
#

How is that hard to understand

viscid remnant
#

Hi aurora i hope you're doing well

vagrant marlin
#

its just you

mild rune
#

All y'all really need to worry about is updating to the latest build and then going on with your lives again

main hound
#

how tf should log4j, a java library only used for logging stuff, be used as an exploit

viscid remnant
#

Also jok i dont rly think they'll update 1.8

cursive whale
ancient bolt
#

no

viscid remnant
hot hamlet
vagrant marlin
whole prawn
#

you can always update to 1.17.1 to get the fix

drowsy urchin
#

Does spigot also have the exploit?

brazen marsh
rocky scroll
#

Im just curious and Im not sure if I can ask but what the exploit can cause? Some file fuckery?

ancient bolt
whole prawn
#

or 1.18

viscid remnant
cursive whale
vagrant marlin
tropic flame
vivid basin
potent panther
rocky scroll
potent panther
viscid remnant
#

Cause i cant see your message jok anymore. deleted?

vagrant marlin
viscid remnant
#

Oh thanks

potent panther
hot hamlet
cosmic raft
silver otter
#

What's the exploit about ?

vivid basin
mild rune
#

The reason exploits aren't instantly publicly explained is due to bad actors being able to use that information to start attacking. Waiting a few days/weeks allows for people to update.

#

It's common sense

potent panther
mental meadow
vagrant marlin
vivid basin
potent panther
ashen nacelle
#

patched

vivid basin
#

It's a zero day, it's already in the wild

ashen nacelle
whole prawn
#

or you can update to 1.17.1

cosmic raft
#

that's horrible

latent bridge
#

what happend

#

big exploit?

rocky scroll
#

Man that version is 10 versions ago, almost 10 years

potent panther
#

paper doesn't like old versions

tropic flame
#

have the servers even changed ever since 1.7.5? i know 1.6.4 and lower basically don't have skins anymore but 1.7.5+ probably still works?

latent bridge
#

what does it do

rocky scroll
#

Drop it already lol

viscid remnant
mild rune
#

I know how it works too lmfao, doesn't change that they don't want more people to exploit it

winter raptor
rocky scroll
#

1.17 and 1.18 are the most important versions of paper lolz

void void
#

Is the exploit for 1.8?

onyx wind
#

RCE?

fickle rain
#

This is a circus

winter raptor
#

lmaoo

viscid remnant
rocky scroll
#

There was a web with stats but def 1.8 was like 1%

latent bridge
#

whats the exploit

main hound
#

with log4j

mental meadow
#

!ban @safe mason Troll/annoying

viscid remnant
#

Gullible

vestal jasper
thorny flickerBOT
#

:raised_hands: Banned neon#0111 (Troll/annoying) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.

winter raptor
#

poor guy

quick halo
#

Thats apparently a java flag that can be used to workaround the issue for now. I'm sure the paper devs have seen it.

viscid remnant
#

People are really sad

main hound
#

oof

karmic bay
#

😱

latent bridge
ashen nacelle
#

how ive censored any sensitive info out

vagrant marlin
#

you just listed all the non-important versions, thanks!

karmic bay
#

banned oof

latent bridge
#

I wanted to know what it does not how u do it D:

rocky scroll
tropic flame
viscid remnant
vapid sapphire
void void
#

Couldnt you just check the new github changea to see what it is?

vestal jasper
mental meadow
#

All you need to know is to update your software.

vernal moth
sterile wadi
#

I know nothing about this exploit but I hope it gets fixed soon cuz I don’t want to have to shutdown my server with my friends.

quick halo
sage vessel
#

if you are still running 1.8 then you should be able to fork Paper and fix the issue yourself

quick halo
tropic flame
mental meadow
rocky scroll
viscid remnant
void void
#

Exploit 1.8???

rocky scroll
brazen marsh
vivid basin
quick halo
rose obsidian
magic river
#

I don't think there is any mitigation you can do other than updating

vivid basin
#

I think I found what it was, not quite remote code execution severe but still pretty bad

mighty storm
#

I thought it was the man in the mirror

livid plume
#

MIRROR LMAO

mighty storm
#

Asking him to change his ways?

sterile wadi
mental meadow
#

1.18 is in active development, 1.17 is supported. 1.16.5 is EOL, we just backport it to there as a courtesy. Everything below that you should not use if you want any support at all.

viscid remnant
#

^^

tropic flame
potent panther
vapid sapphire
viscid remnant
rocky scroll
magic river
#

Usually you only tell what the exploit is along with mitigation instructions and the whole ecosystem being updated

#

The whole ecosystem isn't updated yet

nimble berry
mighty storm
#

Windows XP IS the latest and greatest version though

ember knot
#

🧐 ?

sterile wadi
vapid sapphire
#

waste of time

mental meadow
viscid remnant
rocky scroll
mighty storm
#

Install gentoo? That implies people installed Gen to begin with

potent panther
mighty storm
#

Send them to me aurora I'll hug them

tropic flame
viscid remnant
harsh oasis
#

Does this mean the patch isn't on the Github yet?

fast arrow
brazen marsh
vapid sapphire
ashen nacelle
#

everyone gets tagged in annoucnements and chat blows up

rough mural
#

Where can I download the newest version of Velocity (that exploit path)?

tropic flame
vagrant marlin
viscid remnant
#

Lmaoo

mental meadow
viscid remnant
#

Paper-chan pics owo?

vapid sapphire
mighty storm
#

No like had someone named "anime" asking me why I was trans then implied I abused my cat, was very sad day

coarse matrix
#

is this exploit minecraft specific? or does this also affect other java applications using log4j

rough mural
viscid remnant
cloud moat
#

Maybe think that pronouns are important for some people. Just shows your privilege hanging out

ashen nacelle
#

@clever mantle how would my image be a ban incoming?

harsh oasis
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Does this mean the patch is private for now so people can't trace back what the patch fixes and abuse the exploit?

viscid remnant
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Don't worry about it. Just update it

sleek ivy
mental meadow
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The patch we have done is public

brazen marsh
mental meadow
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We just don't want to discuss any details about it

void void
harsh oasis
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Oh guess I'm dumb, thanks

mental meadow
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Yes it is

tropic flame
viscid remnant
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Probably for both since it's to do with a dependancy

umbral parrot
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is that yes its spigot also or is that yes its only paper

tame skiff
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Is the exploit of the 'lets dupe items sort' or 'server software / os serious levle'

void void
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oh god

vapid sapphire
viscid remnant
ashen nacelle
vapid sapphire
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OHHHHH NOOOOOO

latent bridge
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oh the exploit is.. bad

void void
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Cubecraft is 1.12+ sooo they have an problem

viscid remnant
tropic flame
lavish compass
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This exploit is real bad

latent bridge
fast arrow
rose obsidian
void void
mighty storm
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Another reason to not use spigot!

latent bridge