I cant believe this
#general
left swift
still turtle
Dam my bad forgot to turn of mention
limber knotBOT
lol noob
golden gust
hooters, tutors, computers
left swift
thanks cat
void void
bridge is a bit bork
golden gust
void void
iirc phoenix made an issue for it
left swift
just use discord 
olive marlin
With the bridge gone, the bug would be gone too.
left swift
yes bloodstone
limber knotBOT
^
left swift
they wouldn't be gone
spare venture
i’m surprised the bridge survived after the wiz spam incident
left swift
they would just be on reddit
limber knotBOT
they would need to figure out how to IRC first 
void void
oh?
void void
they would need to figure out how to IRC first <:kekw:674093681963302933>
webchat
spare venture
the bridge has caused me nothing but pain
void void
is V just like
worn ember
we'd only lose like 2 users
void void
go and rust and cpp all together
worn ember
phoenix and biome
void void
jesus
limber knotBOT
with hundreds of compiler bugs
void void
i think i'll stick to rust
limber knotBOT
:D
golden gust
I mean
void void
g*olang 🤮
magic mesa
Just use rust, go and cpp 
spare venture
phoenix and biome
acceptable losses
void void
golang is meh
golden gust
I love the idea of learning and prgramming a language primarily designed around the concept that developers are fucking useless!
magic mesa
golang is great, we're getting generics in jan
olive marlin
Rust >> GoLang
magic mesa
^ true
olive marlin
sez u, mister bash
Bash > GoLang
golden gust
(I mean, I've done an hour or so with go, I refuse to touch it anymore)
summer rivet
like in the same folder as my jdk or a new folder and in start.bat a path to it in the startcommand?
marble lark
y'all nerds
void void
golang is great, we're getting generics in jan
"we're getting generics in jan 12 years after release"
marble lark
javascript is better than all languages
void void
rust > everything else
void void
javascript is better than all languages
wtf u on
rust is the best programming language ever invented and absolutely smokes JS in web applications
(when compiled to wasm)
magic mesa
I love the idea of learning and prgramming a language primarily designed around ...
A lot of things infuriate me about go but I just find it easy to develop in, rust is something I am working towards
void void
rust is a very steep learning curve
viscid wedge
I still can't believe wasm is a real thing
void void
it's been a little easier for me coming from c/cpp systems stuff but still
void void
i cri no one ever gets sarcasm wen i do it
obviously lua is the best language 🙄
olive marlin
rust > everything else
Bash > Rust ||/s||
golden gust
"be stupid enough that skids out of college can program for us"
that's why they originally refused to expose generics and shit
void void
beats python
marble lark
Python is just eh
void void
once you really start to understand Rust there's no going back to anything else
unless you need to write UIs, then youre fucked lel
olive marlin
Please someone make a good interpreted language so that I can get rid of Python and Bash 🥺
viscid wedge
Just go back to C
golden gust
I kinda wish that there was like, a nice OOP style kinda modern shell environment
marble lark
Please someone make a good interpreted language so that I can get rid of Python ...
PHP
golden gust
Issue is that I wouldn't wanna give up my bash stuff doe
marble lark
lmao
magic mesa
"be stupid enough that skids out of college can program for us"
I understand that, but once I've done my project in golang I'm going to try make it in rust. It's not like I can't program in anything else other than golang, I can do C/C++ when I need to
void void
"oop shell" cursed
golden gust
I mean
viscid wedge
Object oriented scripting
golden gust
Like, imagine bash, but if it was sane
olive marlin
I just need something I can store and run as source, without waiting 10 minutes for it to build. And what is strongly typed, has built-in imports etc.
golden gust
made it easy to pass data around..
viscid wedge
Like, imagine bash, but if it was sane
Can't happen, it's gnu
golden gust
Then again
void void
agreed
olive marlin
Python doesn't enforce types, is loosely interpreted, managing packages is a mess...
foggy veldt
I love pretty much every language except for php
Php is the only language I have strong feelings about and that feeling is hate
void void
I mean, I'd rather self yeet than python
this tbh
olive marlin
I have a few thousands lines of Python to manage server configuration. I'd love to rewrite it in a better language, sadly there's nothing more suitable that I know :/
foggy veldt
Python gets the job done for me for small scripts that would normally be bash. For full programs i just go with java or crystal
tropic flame
use JShell
foggy veldt
Typescript if I’m feeling spicy
tropic flame
there's your OOP shell
olive marlin
Java 🤮
spiral robin
Php is the only language I have strong feelings about and that feeling is hate
why?
foggy veldt
Java > 11 is good, I used to use scala but switched back to java after 15 or 16 where they brought detailed null exceptions
marble lark
btw @summer rivet seems like there's a related issue on the issue tracker: https://github.com/Querz/mcaselector/issues/252
foggy veldt
why?
It feels all over the place, with other languages I can usually predict the syntax / stdlib methods and then here comes php with explode()
olive marlin
I hate JVM ecosystem and would prefer to avoid it where possible. Only want to deal with it where I can't use something else.
I hate the ecosystem, Java and Kotlin.
tropic flame
other languages don't have it better imo
void void
It feels all over the place, with other languages I can usually predict the synt...
php has str_split too!
tropic flame
C/C++ has no equivalent of maven or Gradle, at most you got CMake but like... it's not the same thing
JavaScript/node.js and python? all good until you want to compile some project and oh hey look you need to download VS!
marble lark
well if you're in that kind of niche where scripting is everywhere Java isn't really the best language for you anyway
olive marlin
Rust has significantly better ecosystem. But it also is compiled and takes time, so not very suitable for smaller projects.
tropic flame
because mfs couldn't write anything in pure python
rare python
C/C++ has no equivalent of maven or Gradle, at most you got CMake but like... it...
One of the many reasons I ditched C++ for Rust.
marble lark
C and C++ are really fun somehow
foggy veldt
php has str_split too!
Ah haven’t touched it in a while, when I used to use it there was only explode
marble lark
no memory safety = all sorts of sh*t you can do, whether or not it crashes your binary 
tropic flame
i really enjoy how maven and Gradle serve as build tool and repository management at the same time
marble lark
well
tropic flame
does Rust have that? @rare python
marble lark
for me it's Java and C# that are my go to languages
hallow beacon
Any plug-in recommendation for a server with my friends?
tropic flame
good then
rare python
Its called Cargo
olive marlin
Cargo is great.
foggy veldt
Once crystal windows is finalized it will be my go to for everything
olive marlin
And is "built in".
rare python
Cargo is perfection
marble lark
And is "built in".
hey so is npm in Node ;)
tropic flame
for me it's Java and C# that are my go to languages
eh my thing with C# is that it's still too tied to Windows even with their efforts in .NET 5+, can't do much about it when you need VS to develop
i guess there's monodevelop though
foggy veldt
npm is built in but no one uses it like built in Minecraft commands. Everyone immediately switches to yarn or pnpm
tropic flame
it's just Microsoft Java imo
waxen panther
C/C++ has no equivalent of maven or Gradle, at most you got CMake but like... it...
there's a lot of wrong statements in this message 
there are a lot of build systems for C but people just tend to use CMake because its what they're used to. not sure what you meant by js needing VS though
c\c++ has a pretty great ecosystem if you understand it, it just tends to require a little bit more work
marble lark
i still do prefer Java better yeah, C# is kind of when you want Java's safety with the insanity that you can get in C and C++
tropic flame
i really enjoy how maven and Gradle serve as build tool and repository managemen...
later on you see here what i mean by that, broccolai
does CMake do both of those things?
marble lark
cross compiling for .NET is actually pretty good honestly
tropic flame
are there CMake repositories with artifacts?
plucky sparrow
I like dart but that’s just me
tropic flame
can I publish my libraries to a CMake repository online?
marble lark
you can even compile the runtime itself into your binary for another platform
tropic flame
can I declare a repository and dependency and it will take care of downloading and importing for me?
marble lark
npm is built in but no one uses it like built in Minecraft commands. Everyone im...
npm install event-stream
foggy veldt
I played with dart for like an hour when I was trying to untangle chatsen code, It’s not bad but there’s nothing I particularly love about it
waxen panther
what you really like is the package management side then, they do exist for C (see conan for an example) but they're generally not used because C developers tend to like just using git submodules, which is also no extra work really
nuget is another big one iirc, but i think thats mainly used by visual studio people
marble lark
the only gripe I have with Rust is a massive nitpick; the declaration for functions/methods is just fn which is pretty lame
tropic flame
yeah, i guess i didn't pick the right words
but yeah I really like the package management side
tropic flame
what you really like is the package management side then, they do exist for C (s...
i see
plucky sparrow
I played with dart for like an hour when I was trying to untangle chatsen code, ...
I like that it’s like java
So super easy to learn
waxen panther
not trying to shill C or anything , all languages have their problems
marble lark
all languages have their problems
^^^
spiral robin
imagine IGNORING a dm from me 
solid siren
any fun plugin u guys suggest i have a smp with my friends
marble lark
still would be nice to be able to pass by reference in C but I guess that's just me being lazy :P
tropic flame
any fun plugin u guys suggest i have a smp with my friends
StairChairs (or whatever it's called)
foggy veldt
any fun plugin u guys suggest i have a smp with my friends
Coreprotect, friends are the biggest griefers
golden gust
wtf is an aberdeener?
tropic flame
Coreprotect, friends are the biggest griefers
also this and it might not even be on purpose
golden gust
is it like, some tool for aberdines?
spiral robin
i will ping you cat .
tropic flame
sometimes it's just a creeper but you don't want to disable mobGriefing because it fucks with villager breeding
foggy veldt
Tfw friend 1 quits because friend 2 burnt down friend 1s house as a prank
ashen cliff
As they should.
limber knotBOT
@stray oyster 338171
solid siren
StairChairs (or whatever it's called)
thank you
tropic flame
<@371398411867521024> 338171
sharing nhentai codes?
left swift
foggy veldt
I read the title and still bursted my eardrums
plucky sparrow
ima beat you to it
Gonna wake up to a shit on your pillow
marble lark
i hope i suffocate on it before i wake up
left swift
pink eye moment
marble lark
cmon cat do me a favour
left swift
wtf
plucky sparrow
Oh I can help you on that
left swift
Sherman wants to choke on shit
plucky sparrow
LOL
plucky sparrow
.kill TheShermanTanker
marble lark
lmao
limber knotBOT
slices TheShermanTanker's limbs off with a sharpened katana.
left swift
why u adding me
left swift
foggy silo
It’s good to be friendly
void void
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm5EBnLTG90
Oh, mom is here
foggy silo
😩😩
void void
I can spank you
foggy silo
left swift
yes
dire flint
spice ether
left swift
anyways
worn ember
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm5EBnLTG90
lmao that scream
pseudo shadow
It's been a pleasure doing business with you folks for the past long ass time idk how long
im gonna cancel my mc servers
yall are amazing tho, staff and dev team 👌 👌
potent fossil
henlo
void void
Hi simple
pure junco
Is there any plugin that can allow one to add custom music discs?
stray oyster
Got pinged here by Naomi?
stray oyster
Is there any plugin that can allow one to add custom music discs?
Something that plays .nbs files?
void void
my nitro gon :(
waxen panther
sadge
pure junco
Something that plays .nbs files?
That's note blocks, right? I wanted something that could play normal audio files
I'm not sure if it's possible though
stray oyster
That's note blocks, right? I wanted something that could play normal audio files
That’s not possible without a custom resource pack
pure junco
Oh that sucks
void void
Got pinged here by Naomi?
Apparently
pure junco
Thanks for the help!
golden gust
noah, give it back!
stray oyster
@wispy blade yo that’s mildly fucked up
pure junco
That’s not possible without a custom resource pack
I haven't ever made/used custom resource packs, how does that work? Do all the players on the server have to download it, or can the server send it to the players...?
Sorry for my ignorance
void void
no
limber knotBOT
stray oyster
I haven't ever made/used custom resource packs, how does that work? Do all the p...
Yes essentially
potent fossil
Server can send it, but it gets to be a bit hairy if the player declines it
Then you need to detect if they declined it and kick their asses 
stray oyster
You can force resource packs since 1.17
potent fossil
Oh okay 
stray oyster
There is no decline button only accept or disconnect
pure junco
Oh neat
potent fossil
Can you tell I haven't run any minecraft server since 1.16
pure junco
I guess that'd be the solution to the discs
I'll look into making custom resource packs, thanks for the help!
potent fossil
I remember having to go through quite a lot of hell with resource packs
stray oyster
You have to host the resource pack on some https server
potent fossil
Glad that forcing exists now
proper iris
when is paper 1.18 coming out
pure junco
You have to host the resource pack on some https server
Alright, that's not an issue
potent fossil
pure junco
when is paper 1.18 coming out
whenever it is ready
golden gust
god
proper iris
which is when
potent fossil
golden gust
I wish that there was two channels with that kind of info
potent fossil
.eta
void void
kasheek fix your bot
potent fossil
oh my god both bots are dead
pure junco
which is when
It is ready whenever it is ready
void void
he removed all the bot commands earlier
stray oyster
Alright, that's not an issue
Careful though; no cloudflare; it will detect that as a bot and send it to hell
void void
on irc
void void
moving to slash commands
potent fossil
ooookay
pure junco
Careful though; no cloudflare; it will detect that as a bot and send it to hell
Oh wait really? I have a server hosting sites via Cloudflare, I can't host on that?
stray oyster
Some clients will simply not be able to download it
golden gust
CF is fine so long as it's configured properly
stray oyster
The request is an automated one and cloudflare doesn’t take kindly to that unless you have a zone config for it
golden gust
Literally never had any issues there
radiant oriole
If you configure cloudflare to serve your pack properly it's not an issue
I've hosted a pack for an 800 player network on cloudflare with ZERO issues.
pure junco
Well, I guess I'll just try it and then cross that bridge when/if I get to it
left swift
br*ccolai
waxen panther
can i help u
left swift
sup
waxen panther
broccolai
left swift
how dare you
golden gust
Broc, I just want you to know that
waxen panther
i agree
pure junco
🥦
golden gust
If we where like, close buds, and you ended up in an accident
I would unplug you to charge my phone
void void
british people problems
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by xSynaptic - About 142,000 results (0.42 seconds)
void void
bri'ish "people" problems*
left swift
cat is Scottish
waxen panther
the is no problems here because i am not northern.
left swift
ya you
golden gust
"That's not a sandwich. This is a sandwich!"
faint relic
is there anyone from mars here
waxen panther
left swift
golden gust
"Have you ever thought about it, like, the queens a human just like us... Like, she still shits and wipes her own ass"
left swift
these sound like you
potent fossil
just realized i was in #❗-1-18-experimental
left swift
now u gotta finish supporting that person
potent fossil
wasn't supportin anyone
native wolf
It gets easy to confuse the two channels sometimes
left swift
expiremental channel keeps all yatopia kids out of general as the politics channel kept all the boomers out of general
#bringbackpolitics
potent fossil
.eta
limber knotBOT
There is no ETA (Estimated Time of Arrival)! Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.
potent fossil
there's a stand in till kaguya decides to work
left swift
sounds like a loser but a hot loser
potent fossil
ill disable it later
viscid wedge
Is there anything like Valgrind for Java?
Apparently the JVM can run under Valgrind. That works.
still turtle
Eta
potent fossil
.eta
limber knotBOT
There is no ETA (Estimated Time of Arrival)! Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.
still turtle
.eta
limber knotBOT
There is no ETA (Estimated Time of Arrival)! Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.
potent fossil
Thank you.
still turtle
In a week i predict
potent fossil
Read what my bot JUST told you.
viscid wedge
you gonna see a looooooot of leaked stuff then
It's gonna be ugly
still turtle
Read what my bot JUST told you.
I predict in a week
potent fossil
Ok, thanks. There are no ETAs.
still turtle
Yea ik but im making a prediction
potent fossil
Soup is about to stare into hell itself and try to debug it
potent fossil
What...exactly...do you think an ETA is, @still turtle?
Do you think it's somehow not a prediction?
meager tusk
It's estimated, men.
still turtle
What...exactly...do you think an ETA is, <@!325631195993866258>?
i make my own eta
in a week
potent fossil
still turtle
Lol
meager tusk
i make my own eta
Okay, irrelevant + Hey, I'm Halos I'm pretty cool I stream on Twitch and I'm very nice.
frank otter
slash-eta is broken since when
still turtle
Okay, irrelevant + Hey, I'm Halos I'm pretty cool I stream on Twitch and I'm ver...
Ok
void void
slash-eta is broken since when
couple of hours
limber knotBOT
kash borked it
void void
kazheek needs to fix
still turtle
im just making my own prediction when it could come out
potent fossil
Since this morning which is why I patched it into paperchan, so you can use .eta for now and I'll remove that later
potent fossil
But unfortunately it has to be used in a channel that's bridged
potent fossil
Cloudbot doesn't have that, or at least I don't have it set up so I literally went and added some code into it and restarted the bot
I don't think paperchan has any list
potent fossil
frank otter
wait no thats the attacks thing
potent fossil
that's for korobi
golden gust
.list
limber knotBOT
potent fossil
kash removed some commands from korobi, it had .eta but not anymore
so i patched it over to paperchan temporarily
frank otter
https://korobi.vq.lc/network/esper/channel/paper/commands/
@frank otter commands list wq
.1.17
limber knotBOT
frank otter
oh it does work
potent fossil
someone tell me later when to remove that .eta command from paperchan, but i gotta start working on physics stuff. got a lab soon
frank otter
what is a lab
potent fossil
yes korobi is fine, kash just removed some commands bc moving to slash commands. but the slash commands are broken right now
laboratory?
gotta go do an experiment
frank otter
wait you have a laboratory
golden gust
best dog breed, if you ask me
potent fossil
my school does lol
frank otter
ohh you have time in a lab
potent fossil
yes
frank otter
sorry my brain is full of revision
potent fossil
best dog breed, if you ask me
yea, am miss mine 
frank otter
run out of space for logic
viscid wedge
plucky sparrow
Hey
You’re not supposed to send dog pics
I don’t see where it says dogs
only cats
potent fossil
shut up dap
limber knotBOT
shut up dap
void void
shut up dap
plucky sparrow
wow
void void
shut up dap
plucky sparrow
Just accept that we live in a cats only world
potent fossil
dis my dogger, she passed away 10/15/20 tho 😔 https://cms.jacobandersen.dev/assets/ecd5da3b-86d0-4048-90fc-1242403d0368
was a very good girl
had to fix my fucking cms first
potent fossil
but she has a very nice box for her ashes
left swift
yoo
void void
dis my dogger, she passed away 10/15/20 tho 😔 https://cms.jacobandersen.dev/ass...
aww cutie
left swift
feeling some flu symptoms googled what the new variant symptoms are
first thing I see
golden gust
congrats
plucky sparrow
Omicron?
golden gust
ur fukt
left swift
it was nice knowing u guys
plucky sparrow
what’s that
potent fossil
limber knotBOT
new corona mutation
plucky sparrow
wtf
potent fossil
dont get covid, it le sux
ancient bolt
getting my booster on monday
left swift
feeling fatigue and cloudy
plucky sparrow
How many mutations are there
ancient bolt
gonna have covid super powers
potent fossil
u srs mana
ancient bolt
lots, viruses mutate rapidly
left swift
yes
plucky sparrow
Last time I heard about one was like nearly a year ago
potent fossil
i just got over my covid, lost my taste and smell. go smell some peanut butter
limber knotBOT
technically infinite, dap
void void
dis my dogger, she passed away 10/15/20 tho 😔 https://cms.jacobandersen.dev/ass...
sorry to hear that :(
potent fossil
can you smell it
left swift
I can still smell and taste
plucky sparrow
Not interested in COVID at all tbh
ancient bolt
Last time I heard about one was like nearly a year ago
you only hear about (and they only give special names to) the notable variants
potent fossil
dap: i am not interested in the current worldwide pandemic 
ancient bolt
in reality there are tons of variants which are only very slightly different
potent panther
encourages paper to work on 1.18
left swift
I just ate some pizza 
ancient bolt
well I hope you're vaccinated at least
potent fossil
i care bc I've been trying to go to the philippines to see my fiancee since april 2020
plucky sparrow
Just my google feed
potent fossil
and now omicron just closed them up again right as they were about to open
:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
left swift
potent fossil
oh well, maybe summer 2022 i guess
was going to try for this month but nope, thanks rona
viscid wedge
I just watched a squirrel pick up a rotten apple that fell off my tree and run away with it
potent fossil
once again
potent fossil
I just watched a squirrel pick up a rotten apple that fell off my tree and run a...
i hope the squirrel likes the rotten apple
potent fossil
and now omicron just closed them up again right as they were about to open
actually no it's more like a slap in the face tbh, because they opened but only for green countries of which USA is not one because people refuse to get vaccinated and help contribute to case reduction. so, i'll get to see people from green countries enter and will probably start seeing YT videos about it just to tease me while I have to continue to wait in this god forsaken country of idiots
okay anyway, ill be back later
plucky sparrow
wait only 80% of Spain is vaccinated
spare venture
only?
potent fossil
at this point those unvaccinated either 1) have legitimate medical exemptions but i dont know what they are, 2) are assholes, or 3) are underserved by their government
bleak dagger
hey
potent fossil
i think 2 is biggest cut
vernal moth
It's easy, get vaccinated or get covid, those are your options
vernal moth
My company announce today they will get me a booster at work so I don't need to do shit \o/
bleak dagger
How do I get 1.8.8 PaperMC api for my plugin?
golden gust
add the maven repo, add the dependency like any other
bleak dagger
You time traveling?
Im trying to :/
void void
actually no it's more like a slap in the face tbh, because they opened but only ...
welcome to the usa, the greatest country in the world*
*for wealthy cishet white men
potent fossil
im vaccinated and got covid, so it's a thing, but it was much less of a big deal than unvaccinated and getting it
vernal moth
get vaccinated and get covid
That's unlucky AF, especially if you got your booster
golden gust
maven repo is linked in #welcome , idk nor care what the old artifact was, you're more than welcome to look at the repo
void void
Texas government deciding what basic human right its gonna make me beg for this week
vernal moth
I'm not gonna enable you to support ancient shit, lmao
plucky sparrow
That's unlucky AF, especially if you got your booster
yea but for example simple is vaccinated yet he got covid
Although getting COVID while vaccinated is less bad
potent fossil
welcome to the usa, the greatest country in the world*
*for wealthy cishet whi...
and filled with a bunch of people who are not that class who are brainwashed to believe it's the greatest country in the world meanwhile living paycheck to paycheck from backbreaking work
ancient bolt
yeah it happens, very rarely
left swift
Texas government deciding what basic human right its gonna make me beg for this ...
hey but it's okay right because its your body your choice for everything but womans reproductive healthcare! god I love this country
bleak dagger
add the maven repo, add the dependency like any other
I tried but it only shows up as 1.17
viscid wedge
1.8 players stay losing
golden gust
Don't ping,
potent fossil
getting covid while vaccinated is called a breakthrough infection, and they exist. CDC and WHO are both aware of that
viscid wedge
:kekw:
void void
and filled with a bunch of people *who are not that class* who are brainwashed t...
and then blame people living on welfare instead of the billionaires oppressing them because they're conditioned to do so
golden gust
The package name was different.
potent fossil
I'm waiting to get my booster
viscid wedge
ok thanks discord
bleak dagger
oh sry
golden gust
Go look at that branch of go look for wherever it was in the repo
was in some like github userthing package
void void
a divided population is easier to control
viscid wedge
getting covid while vaccinated is called a breakthrough infection, and they exis...
Almost always milder than it'd be otherwise regardless
potent fossil
and then blame people living on welfare instead of the billionaires oppressing t...
those fucking lazy welfare collectors! they are the reason everyone else is suffering. if only they would work a little harder top keep propping up our beloved Bezos.
left swift
this sounds like #poli... oh wait
golden gust
ina. country which offers countless programs to get out of that trap
void void
daddy bezos has a hard job, he has to decide what critical worker benefit he has to cut this year so he can buy 15 new yachts!
potent fossil
I live in a welfare family right now.
if you can't tell we're being very sarcastic
sorry we're not using /s for this level of sarcasm
golden gust
yea, some people have a hard time, some people just can't be fucked to get out of it
plucky sparrow
I'm waiting to get my booster
Do they give it even if you had COVID?
plucky sparrow
In Spain you only get vaccinated once if you’ve had COVID previously
Like the first dose
So I’m guessing the same might apply to the booster shot
golden gust
My sperm donor has 0 qualifications, would basically screw off on his job apps and when he did get a job he'd stop going because he wanted to go fishing, birth giver kicked him out, he was on a homeless program within a week, he apparently overstayed the timeframe they generally allow and they seemingly sorta gave him a temp job, which, from what I understand he blew that too
potent fossil
daddy bezos has a hard job, he has to decide what critical worker benefit he has...
that's it! i will go on facebook and encourage my local community to work at the jobs that are available now. it does not matter if they barely pay you minimum wage with absolutely no benefits and no free time, and demand that you essentially sign your life over to them unconditionally and that you are on-call 24/7 with no personal space whatsoever and if you are slightly late or unresponsive you will be fired even in the job market that so desparately cries for workers on the daily.
the reason is because we are all lazy as a community! we must work harder....... the modern generation is so shit!
vernal moth
I'm waiting to get my booster
Don't you have to wait a while to get vaccinated after an infection?
potent fossil
10 days
vernal moth
I thought that was much longer
potent fossil
Pharmacy told me 10 days so idk
vernal moth
Guess it's different per country
golden gust
my mother had me at 16, flunked out of school, didn't wanna go on any of the programs over the years really to help you get the basic degrees you pretty much need for a job these days, only ended up getting a job after my grandfather basically pulled her into it, but, I mean, before that, there was times we barely had food in the kitchen because most of the money was basically spent on cigs and paying back of bumbing hash
potent fossil
Dunno
yeah cat, that's a shitty situation and definitely is sometimes common but the kind of welfare collectors we are talking about are by and large not that
just good people trying to live, who quite literally have no upward mobility
golden gust
I live in a country where the system literally throws programs and shit at you TO move you up
potent fossil
USA does not do that
golden gust
Not to say that there is injustice in the system, I've seen it first hand
potent fossil
But glad UK does
golden gust
But, like, the benefits trap? it's fucking real
potent fossil
Yup. My sister is on disability and if she starts work, she will lose her health insurance which she needs for her bipolar schizophrenia meds. So she'll start working for a net pay of less than she gets now on disability insurance (gross may be similar, but that doesn't matter because taxes) and won't be able to pay for separate medical and therefore won't be able to get the meds she'd need
She would need somebody to supplement her for a while, which she doesn't have
It's stay in the program or try and get out but end up on the street
That's how it is
golden gust
Yea, That's one of the "joys" my mother had, but for my mother it was pretty much 100% her own fault and decisions
She had 0 qualifications and basically pop'd a child out every time it started to lead towards that
vernal moth
People abusing the welfare system are mostly a myth created by conservatives btw, there are studies estimating how much money we loose to people abusing the system and it's so much less compared to what we get out of it
golden gust
So, anything she'd do would be the type of shit job you'd take up at 16 before deciding what you wanted to do as college
Bro
I literally lived in that situation
You complain about people ignoring others lived experiences it, but, I literally fucking lived that experience
potent fossil
My dad got his legs cut off and is similarly on disability. If he works, he'd lose insurance that he needs for his legs which otherwise costs like $100,000 or more when he needs stuff for his legs. So the disability is helping
I also lived and am living that experience
golden gust
The entire system sucks ass
potent fossil
So not sure why you think you're the only one 🤔
golden gust
The people who wanna take advantage of it can
The people who actually need it get fucked over
vernal moth
I know cat, but that's anecdotal evidence, the waste amount of people actually need the help, are thankful for it and eventually get out
golden gust
Like, my mate, she has HS, google it, it's fucking fun
her disability claim got denied because she put her jacket on.
The thing is that the entire system is fundimentally misguided
waxen panther
i regret going to images 😭
vernal moth
Am not saying it's perfect and I don't know your system
golden gust
it's well proven that social programs have been a massive hit on specific communities
vernal moth
I was referring to German studies
left swift
i regret going to images 😭
golden gust
The thing is that many of these programs are not designed suitabily for what they should be tryna do
potent fossil
Yeah, it sucks dude. Horribly. Different countries implement it differently but at least in USA, if you get welfare it's often very hard to get out and back on your feet without external support which varies on your local community as it's definitely not a state or federal program to help you get out. Sometimes your city has help, and if so, great. Maybe you can get out. In my area, none of that shit exists so if you don't have friends or family to help you get on your feet who are well off enough to supplement you while you try and get back on your feet it's probably not going to happen
spare venture
the fact that people can be rich as bezos, musk, gates, is disgusting
vernal moth
If we wanna talk anecdotal evidence I have seen the system work multiple times to get people back into jobs, heck, my dad fell into it for a while cause financial crysis and stuff and got back out, one of his sister's was down there for almost 10 years and can live on her own again now
potent fossil
Unless you are able to save money while on those programs and it's not going to bills that continue to pile up because the insurance ain't enough to pay them
golden gust
and that's great, that's a good aspect of the system and I support it
void void
the fact that people can be rich as bezos, musk, gates, is disgusting
this is starting to turn into #politics 
golden gust
I just hate it when my experience is entirely dismissed because hurr durr right winger
potent fossil
#politics doesn't exist anymore, this is off topic chat and it fits
if you don't wanna read it then don't
vernal moth
I didn't say that cat
Am just saying that you focus on how you get treated (which is awful) instead of the bigger picture
wide chasm
This is politics and politics is no longer allowed, Noah has a point
vernal moth
And no system is perfect and there is always stuff to make better
spare venture
you should see how seattle does it
vernal moth
But we gotta start somewhere
The big problem is that sometimes we settle for bad systems
potent fossil
there are legitimately people who abuse the system because they don't want to get out of it, and their kids are horribly disadvantaged because of it. my elder sister did that, used her welfare to supplement her alcoholism while her child fermented in a trash dump house. almost got her kid taken away by CPS (that her own mom called), but she cleaned up her act.
vernal moth
In Germany we "fix" the unemployed statistic by not counting people that are in education programs
potent fossil
there are quite a few drug addicts who use welfare to stay on drugs
but by and large a lot of people use it to live
vernal moth
So send a doctor to help them
golden gust
legally not allowed
potent fossil
Yeah, in USA, where medical costs 10s of thousands of dollars?
Ain't going to happen
golden gust
HIPPA, etc, etc,
potent fossil
That too.
golden gust
They can force you onto programs and shit and say if you don't attend you'll be booted
We endured that one a few times \o/
potent fossil
Like I understand germany is basically heaven and that german 20 somethings and well off as fuck but, like, I'm not at least
vernal moth
It always comes back to the fact that the US fails to get the fundamentals right, lol
coarse lily
<#738890587721302097> doesn't exist anymore, this is off topic chat and it fits
Kinda.
vernal moth
Germany is definitely not heaven and our system is plagued with issues
potent fossil
The US's federal failings is not my fault as a citizen
But I have to live here
It's not a way to brush it off, I still have to live it
golden gust
bruh
potent fossil
I vote to fix it but can't
golden gust
get a paddle boat
velvet timber
You dont have to live here
vernal moth
I didn't mean that as an attack, it's extremely frustrating to me so I can't imagine to have to live in that reality
potent fossil
I do have to live here because I'm too poor to leave
Sure I could leave if I had the money
But I can't get the money
Lmao
golden gust
- Dress like gril
velvet timber
2): Profit.
static badge
didn't you degenerates remove the politics channel for a reason
potent fossil
Once I get my degree and my $80,000 of debt, I will do my best to get a foreign job and I'll leave. I promise that because this is nowhere near a great country
void void
1) Dress like gril
grills are very hot
potent fossil
Ok
coarse lily
Someone mark that on a calendar
vernal moth
Am where I am at in life because gov supported my family in bad times, allowed me to get academic education for free, helped me when I had problems in school and removed a ton of burdens from my family in general. I realize how privileged that is
potent fossil
Basically what's happening: "Wow I don't like how real this is, and/or I don't want to/can't debate this, and/or disgusting poor people are talking about their lived experiences! I don't like it, it makes me feel bad! Let's suppress it."
plucky sparrow
i wanna live in tokyo
potent fossil
But that's fine, peace I gotta do physics
limber knotBOT
dap hf learning japanese
wide chasm
Basically what's happening: "Wow I don't like how real this is, and/or I don't w...
No, we got rid of politics for a reason, that doesn't mean that suddenly general is a politics place
potent fossil
Ok you can tell core team that
plucky sparrow
dap hf learning japanese
that’s the issue
potent fossil
I just joined the discussion my friend
plucky sparrow
so I might just do uk
golden gust
potent fossil
I don't need mods hopping on me when core team is literally talking about it
golden gust
enjoy
wide chasm
Everyone in the discussion should stop
golden gust
Imma have to change my underwear after that vid
left swift
cat wears underwear?
potent fossil
I used to like Walter Lewin but he sexually harassed some female students so I don't like him anymore
limber knotBOT
kek
limber knotBOT
@dap japanese is easy, just, hf learning words n shit
left swift
dire!
golden gust
I ean, player use unknown 100% exists in 1.17
left swift
why is this bot talking
tepid wigeon
<@!505329115516108810> please add me so that i can explain
lmao didn'T expect that
limber knotBOT
why is this hooman talking
left swift
limber knotBOT
nomana, go toothpick toe wall <3
plucky sparrow
why is this hooman talking
why are u talking u dumb webhook
left swift
sounds like some other discord drama
potent fossil
@dap japanese is easy, just, hf learning words n shit
I learned the other day that American sign language grammar is more related to Japanese than it is to English and that was interesting but I know nothing about either language
pastel reef
Why isn't sodium extra working?
void void
<@505329115516108810> i accidentally declined it
@tepid wigeon please add me again
plucky sparrow
@dap japanese is easy, just, hf learning words n shit
Oh I didn’t see your message
potent fossil
Bro
plucky sparrow
Japanese is far from easy wtf
tepid wigeon
calm down xd
void void
i cant
left swift
tepid wigeon
it's fine
void void
please add me
tepid wigeon
already did xd
potent fossil
did you see what i said about the grammar naomi
viscid wedge
Japanese isn't bad, but fuuuuck kanji
limber knotBOT
no because i'm blind
viscid wedge
all my homies hate kanji
mild rune
imagine being blind and a bot
limber knotBOT
is a bot supposed to have eyes then?
viscid wedge
naomi is no longer a human therefore does not deserve rights
limber knotBOT
down the uncanny valley?
mild rune
I wrote too much python today
plucky sparrow
kanji is scary
mild rune
It wasn't even that much
plucky sparrow
So it’s a no
mild rune
but 1 line is too much
plucky sparrow
Oh there’s this free game on epic games about coding
limber knotBOT
a single character of python is more than enough
plucky sparrow
Called while True: learn or smth like that
limber knotBOT
yes, the title/logo is literally python code
plucky sparrow
I’ll be playing it
limber knotBOT
not gonna touch that even with a 10 foot pole
mild rune
Python is the only language I know a webserver in and I had to transition my web storage to s3 and write a new file browser for it
potent fossil
i said american sign language grammar is apparently more similar to japanese grammar than english grammar
limber knotBOT
learn V instead if you hate yourself enough to use python
mild rune
no
potent fossil
but i know nothing about ASL or japanese so idk, just something i saw on le reddit
limber knotBOT
dunno ASL either
mild rune
finally done with this tho and no I won't make it dark mode
limber knotBOT
da jars
plucky sparrow
ooo Seoul is cool too
viscid wedge
A/S/L?
mild rune
yeah I've got a fuck ton of jars for stuff in my bucket
limber knotBOT
American Sign Language
viscid wedge
yes I know
mild rune
age sex location
left swift
asl deez nuts
mild rune
21 m ur walls
potent fossil
this is not omegulllllllllllllllllllll
mild rune
plucky sparrow
finally done with this tho and no I won't make it dark mode <:kekw:6740936819633...
what that
mild rune
Lets me browse my s3 bucket
plucky sparrow
I also wanna learn flutter
limber knotBOT
almost 16 i don't remember irc
mild rune
as well as other people
plucky sparrow
banned
viscid wedge
i remember browsing XDCC shares as a teenager
potent fossil
21 m ur walls
mild rune
nice
plucky sparrow
https://gist.github.com/simpleauthority/2818aedd357de3425580cf61948a8496
what if I burn my walls
potent fossil
You cannot escape me
plucky sparrow
checkmate
viscid wedge
then you no longer have walls and simple can no longer live in them as a consequence
potent fossil
As it happens, your skull happens to be walls made of bone.
As I said you cannot escape me
plucky sparrow
Are you a brick then
foggy veldt
Supah hole in the wall
plucky sparrow
https://gist.github.com/simpleauthority/2818aedd357de3425580cf61948a8496
this should become a copypasta tbh
potent fossil
I thrive on listening to you
plucky sparrow
well I will be silent then
potent fossil
I am very sensitive to noise, I can hear your heart beating and the blood rushing through your veins
golden gust
How about if I whisper scalalalallaaa in your ears?
potent fossil
That is the only way to escape me, I will simply move on
left swift
pspspspspspspspsps
left swift
yooo what does it mean if ur headache moves
wet storm
How about if I whisper scalalalallaaa in your ears?
Monads?😳
plucky sparrow
you might be dying
left swift
nice
plucky sparrow
probably only 2 hours left
left swift
I'm leaving my zowie ec2 mouse for simple in my will
potent fossil
yooo what does it mean if ur headache moves
migraine
viscid wedge
yooo what does it mean if ur headache moves
like the pain shifts?
left swift
yes
ashen cliff
I'm leaving my zowie ec2 mouse for simple in my will
Bro. I'll give you 1€ for it.
left swift
1€ plus inflation
left swift
fax
potent fossil
dat sux
viscid wedge
brain freeze yourself
potent fossil
well, that's the attack phase of the migraine and when it passes you'll be in the postdromal phase which is also no fun and, for me at least, usually makes me pretty confused so if you have to drive it may not be a great idea to stick it out at work
but, i'll leave that up to you
anyway im leaving to go to campus now, good luck with that
coarse lily
A CALL TO ACTION
viscid wedge
lol
coarse lily
The idea that their stuff was being deleted because of some sort of conspiracy and not because they were banned/kept spamming/etc.
viscid wedge
holy fuck this is long
coarse lily
RIP random Paper Discord troll #598493
mental meadow
and I'm a tyrant abusive moderator? or what was it
viscid wedge
https://twitter.com/zachbr_/status/1380265179754139652
This guy takes commissions on Fiverr to read buyer submitted shit
mental meadow
gotta embrace that
viscid wedge
something this long would've been expensive
cosmic raft
This guy takes commissions on Fiverr to read buyer submitted shit
yup!
Z750 paid him to read that
mental meadow
This guy takes commissions on Fiverr to read buyer submitted shit
you don't want to know how much money a certain person here spend on him...
I don't think it was Z
cosmic raft
It was
mental meadow
you don't want to know how much money a certain person here spend on him...
@cunning raft could you please enlighten us
left swift
j r 
y
mental meadow
That one was paid by Z, but there are more :p
plucky sparrow
https://twitter.com/zachbr_/status/1380265179754139652
LOL
viscid wedge
https://yatopia.lol/
use only two in eye tea by our lord and saviour SpottedLeaf
mental meadow
2️⃣➡️👁️🍵
viscid wedge
rose torrent
could i get some help im so confused why my server is not working
plucky sparrow
Yea sure go to #paper-help and redact your issue there
rose torrent
im not sure what the issue is
plucky sparrow
unfortunate
plucky sparrow
use only two in eye tea by our lord and saviour SpottedLeaf
only now I’ve realized it spells tuinity
pure junco
That’s not possible without a custom resource pack
I was looking into this more and it turns out resource packs can't add more items. (Which I guess is pretty obvious, I don't think about that.) So how would add more music discs, instead of just changing the audio files for the pre-existing ones? You'd have to have a plugin on the server-side to add the new items, and then a resource pack to provide the audio for them on the client-side...?
viscid wedge
Yes
worn ember
Well you could change existing items that aren't used
civic crystal
Hey can someone tell me what Mod API is compatible with Paper?
viscid wedge
Hey can someone tell me what Mod API is compatible with Paper?
Bukkit
no mods, only plugins
viscid wedge
Yeah
spare venture
https://twitter.com/zachbr_/status/1380265179754139652
god i love that guy
two n i t
coarse lily
they're not even in paper discord anymore <:pokiSad:795208126373822464>
Z ABANDONED us.
He is but a memory.
Every time I have tacos I pour one out in his memory.
And whisper "Come back someday, sweet Prince."
While shedding a single tear.
spare venture
z killed my firstborn
limber knotBOT
wtf
spare venture
that was my reaction too
coarse lily
z killed my firstborn
barty why do you have a new name like every two months?
left swift
lmfao
barty more like farty
hes trying to mask his name so the people he bans doesnt come ping him in here to get unban
limber knotBOT
fair enough
limber knotBOT
LOL
coarse lily
He's on the lam.
limber knotBOT
you mean run?
coarse lily
limber knotBOT
basically the same thing
worn ember
So for mods it looks like my choice is Fabric?
There's Sponge but if you run mods you might as well just add mods to the server
spare venture
barty why do you have a new name like every two months?
i have changed my name two times in the past 3.5 years
worn ember
There's plenty that do what you want from plugind
spare venture
bardy?
civic crystal
Yeah I think I'm still a little confused on mods vs plugins vs datapacks.
coarse lily
Right?
viscid wedge
Sponge hasn't actually had a release since 1.12.2
civic crystal
I'll read up some more
coarse lily
Maybe bardy is someone else.
spare venture
barty/party/chad
spare venture
and chad is just a joke name because some of my players were convinced my real name is chad
they thought they found my instagram i guess
limber knotBOT
about half of the guys active in the dutch osu community know me as daan
left swift
good cover story
limber knotBOT
so yeah, that's fun
left swift
fake sarcastic
spare venture
./fs?
limber knotBOT
i just went in on the joke
it's why my username there currently is DaanDaanKikoeru
spare venture
nomana you could use a name change
spare venture
pokisimp69
left swift
I think a better name is xXEpicDemonReaper420Xx
spare venture
exactly it’ll keep him off of twitch
left swift
limber knotBOT
what about xxXnomanabhop2021Xxx
tropic flame
Sponge hasn't actually had a release since 1.12.2
nah they released 7.4.0 a few days ago... for 1.12.2
actually based tbh because 1.12.2 is a decent version for mods
limber knotBOT
anyway im gonna go slep gn yall
spare venture
bye
void void
Gn
wicked geode
In which channel I can report website problems
warm anchor
What’s the problem?
wicked geode
In the mobile version of the website on Downloads page it's not made responsive after they added the sha256 and the warning about 1.18 experimental versions. I just thought I would help by informing You
viscid wedge
actually based tbh because 1.12.2 is a decent version for mods
It pisses me off that I need Java 8 for Forge
Meaning I have three different JVMs installed
Java 17 temurin for Minecraft, Java 11 Semeru J9 for Lavalink, and vanilla OpenJDK 8 for Forge
tropic flame
well i also got 3 jdks because i ended up needing java 8 for some reason
cuz for minecraft i use openj9
viscid wedge
Server or client?
tropic flame
client
viscid wedge
That makes more sense
I was using it on Minecraft 1.16.x, but I moved back to hotspot because my framerates were significantly better that way
I have enough RAM in my workstation that I don't mind
wicked geode
Anyone know how to specify the java version the server jar should use. Something in the start.sh (or start.bat for windows)
tropic flame
1.16.x gracefully fails to load under OpenJ9 now anyway
viscid wedge
Does it?
viscid wedge
Anyone know how to specify the java version the server jar should use. Something...
You can specify an absolute path to your java executable, as well as set the JAVA_HOME env variable
wicked geode
Oohhh thanks 👍
viscid wedge
so instead of using java -jar use /usr/lib/jvm/17/bin/java -jar or whatever other location you have your java
golden gust
don't blame them
viscid wedge
They have no obligation to support alternative JVMs, it's not a problem
left swift
crash if eclipse detected
viscid wedge
I was on Fabric, I don't think J9 has ever really worked properly for forge
Do we ever see people using Graal here? I can't imagine it'd make much of a difference for Paper.
golden gust
I know an idiot who played with graal
floral mesa
openj9 is a very different implementation compared to normal java and graal, which just builds on top of what oracle has.
golden gust
the big thing is the language features but, not something I support
yet another impl which has been a PITA at times
viscid wedge
Graal is basically a commercial extension of hotspot, right?
Whereas OpenJ9 is a cleanroom JVM
cosmic raft
OpenJ9 is dumb
left swift
hi kash
red timber
Whereas OpenJ9 is a cleanroom JVM
wrong, it's based on openjdk
viscid wedge
OpenJ9 is fine, just not really in the context of Minecraft
viscid wedge
wrong, it's based on openjdk
my bad
floral mesa
openj9 really has a different goal compared to hotspot, which is mainly memory consumption in cloud computing
your meant to deploy a shit ton of instances running the same program
viscid wedge
wrong, it's based on openjdk
Eclipse OpenJ9 is an independent implementation of a Java Virtual Machine. "Independent implementation" means it was built using the Java Virtual Machine specification without using any code from any other Java Virtual Machine.
red timber
wrong, it's based on openjdk
...or not
viscid wedge
from their git
red timber
yeah just figured, i confused it with something else
viscid wedge
no worries
languid karma
i just opened up inspect element on the discord app
idk u could do that
the more u know
void void
Discord's client is just a glorified webapp
languid karma
yea i just learned that now xD
viscid wedge
glorified chromium
unreal tendon
viscid wedge
sounds like you either need to rethink your own scripts or tell your host to stop being brainless
void void
someone tell me later when to remove that .eta command from paperchan, but i got...
slash command is back btw
worthy geode
only for the global commands as far as I know
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
viscid wedge
bazango
worthy geode
oh it even has an animated paper logo, fancy
plucky sparrow
Oh I see
left swift
it was cat
waxen panther
cosmic raft
let's just say that someone did something I didn't expect :p
worthy geode
would it be possible to add .optimize to the slash commands as well? having two different commands is a bit confusing
cosmic raft
it already does exist
crystal lilyBOT
worthy geode
oh, it didn't when I last checked or I am blind. lol
cosmic raft
type / and you'll see a list of commands
worthy geode
oh nice