or no more void pics for michael
#general
fossil patio
waxen panther
yes i totally have perms for that
fossil patio
not here >:(
fossil patio
ok void pics incoming
worn ember
you guys have weird kinks
golden gust
you should try it, it's fun
void void
is that markiplier
golden gust
To be fair, every "kink friendly" place i've ever been is honestly kinda full of nerds
It's like, comical
worn ember
you should try it, it's fun
i have better places than paper for that
cosmic raft
is that markiplier
golden gust
just, always double check
waxen panther
To be fair, every "kink friendly" place i've ever been is honestly kinda full of...
like u
sunglass emoji.
golden gust
it's all fun and games until you're on our your roof naked, hand stuck to dong and noody VCR tape stuck in the other
mental meadow
wheres the drunk german smh
vernal moth
about to get drunk actually
cause carnival!
but outside is cold and peeps are scared cause rona so we gonna get wasted in discord instead
mental meadow
a.k.a. 2k incidence in about 2 weeks in cologne
vernal moth
what could go wrrong
vernal moth
a.k.a. 2k incidence in about 2 weeks in cologne
not vaccinating is a choice
mental meadow
not for everyone
golden gust
bear grylls: The sun is setting in the west, I must drink my own piss!
Germans: The day ends in day, I must get pissed!
mental meadow
I just need an email 
vernal moth
not for everyone
if you can't get vaccinated just avoid the city
best thing is, its an official company discord 😂
mossy vessel
mfw
magic river
it's all fun and games until you're on our your roof naked, hand stuck to dong a...
American Pie 2?
golden gust
yup
vestal jasper
if you can't get vaccinated just avoid the city
Not always an option
vernal moth
for one day it is
golden gust
It's simple
Just go around licking people
Either you don't catch it, you catch it and die, or you catch it and have natural immunity
either way it kinda sounds like a win
vernal moth
sad thing: people actually do that
vernal moth
in germany those were a myth created by elderly to stop them youth from gathering
golden gust
yea, apparently so
warm anchor
quiet mesa
Twitter
warm anchor
Use a plugin or reduce local difficulties
left swift
cat is a farm limiter
magic river
I finally had to just turn off aquasnap
I couldn't move a steam window without it snapping to the right edge of whatever monitor its on
Luckily the reason I bought aquasnap was the magnet (used to be the only "snapping" it did) so I'm okay with that
Basically every Linux WM has a feature where windows will snap together when you move them next to each other and I was really missing that in Windows
Oh, they also snap to monitor edges (but not the edge between monitors unless you go really slow)
golden gust
It's all the little stupid features which really makes linux DEs for me at times
Like, I don't think I ever wanna main linux again, but, like, there was just so many nifty features here and there
and not to mention, Compiz
magic river
Hey that's that thing I made
Well, I did some bug fixing on parts of it, ported it to GL2 and EGL/GLES2 (which was basically a rewrite of the renderer), wrote the dbus and session plugins, and worked on the packaging for Ubuntu
magic river
fossil patio
it's all fun and games until you're on our your roof naked, hand stuck to dong a...
wha
mental meadow
void void
The scroll effects feel like a poorly executed apple website knockoff
magic river
Like, the shit that animates or loads when you scroll to it is one thing but don't use the scroll as an arbitrary timeline advance input
oh wow, Skyrim Anniversary Edition is just Skyrim LE plus all the mods people put on Creation Club
And for sure reason it needed a 5 GB update?
Did they just dump all the CC mods in to my game and have them disable until/unless I pay or what?
vernal moth
it has poki, how can it be bad
fossil patio
left swift
golden gust
sigh
left swift
I cant wait to see how much of my life this year I used spotify in the spotify wrapped
I wonder if I'll top 118k minutes listened
golden gust
that cheering just kinda reminded me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60mLvBWOMb4
left swift
u had to link a 10 hour version
golden gust
ofc
left swift
weeb
fossil patio
the bookmarked version ofc
golden gust
And then follow up with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmPPCkF6-fk
magic river
fossil patio
what about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0q0QeQbw9U
magic river
iirc people blame a lot of what's happening in Syria on climate issues so that's probably about people trying to get smuggled out of the country
left swift
it's about a cyclone hitting a part of India and sex traffickers exploiting them to make money
this shit so depressing
every day nothing gets better anymore
magic river
It does, you just hear about the bad stuff more
golden gust
media knows that polarisation sells and gets people "invested"
so, good stories are like, somewhere in the back
magic river
Sadly hearing about that stuff more (and in a more polarizing way) makes more of it happen too
So... we're probably fucked at some point
golden gust
I mean, a good chunk of the news I see these days is practically shit that happens on social media
Yea, I mean, it's the cycle of horrors that we're stuck in
shits just getting more polarised and we're fucking idiots and turning against one another
woo society
ivory kite
not as many people are going to click on "people's average quality of life improves" as they are that
golden gust
people are just paying for polarisation 🤷♂️
as I say, there is much more in common between you and I than the bigwigs who control all this shit
I mean, look what cars all the big charity owners are driving
left swift
the real question is what car pokimane is driving
warm anchor
Yes
left swift
ever since she limited donations i just send her money orders in po box
eternity I got dm on ur discord saying I won $1 million but after I gave them my credit information all I've gotten are emails saying new accounts have been opened when do I get my money
golden gust
left swift
from 3 years ago
left swift
slow mode general chat
grave yarrow
bit sussy innit
ashen forum
epic
nimble depot
https://i.imgur.com/yLBMgIv.png
disturbing the peace ey
grave yarrow
bleak yoke
I have been kashike'd!
void void
https://i.imgur.com/yLBMgIv.png
grave yarrow
my fren-
bleak yoke
Cat thanos strikes again
grave yarrow
vim-
cold pumice
Dundundun
nimble depot
I was sitting there watching stuff and now we are going to get raided by a bunch of spigot kids
fossil patio
kashike what's the API endpoint for downloading a random version?
I don't care what MC version or Paper build it is
golden gust
it's the system in which we offer jar files
bleak yoke
If you don't know then it doesn't matter to you :>
toxic bone
https://i.imgur.com/yLBMgIv.png
general chat is now ruined for the next 12 hours
cosmic raft
still 175k requests in the past week
bleak yoke
Wow, that's a lot lmao
cosmic raft
not compared to overall
void void
https://i.imgur.com/Vw9AfAa.png
inb4 "why is my auto updat no work" when the api is dropped
fossil patio
make 0.1% of the requests fail so that people start switching
warm anchor
No no
fossil patio
i promise that'd work
warm anchor
That won’t update anything until last minute
cosmic raft
v1 downloads will do what jenkins downloads do :)
fossil patio
284k unique is insane o.o
void void
v1 downloads will do what jenkins downloads do :)
What do the jenkins downloads do? 👀
fossil patio
Bad host that don’t cache anything
even then, 284k unique IPs is huge
void void
https://papermc.io/ci/job/Paper/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/paper.jar
Was expecting something a lot ruder
void void
Why is this amazing piece of software not open source
cosmic raft
the point is that people who auto-update their servers will notice that their server is not up, and they'll see that when they go to see why
toxic bone
left swift
golden gust
drgs r bad, mkay
left swift
says who
golden gust
idk, am just chillin smoking
cosmic raft
that's on @slim nymph
slim nymph
ugh i keep forgetting
golden gust
jumps on aikar
primal charm
lmao
slim nymph
i know is tarted working on it lol
left swift
fitness dick in ur
warm anchor
Them streak are expensive now
warm anchor
warm anchor
slim nymph
cant wait to have one tomorrow
warm anchor
Do you like buy a lot and freeze them or ??
slim nymph
yeah
i buy all my beef on sale so its not bad price
i just rotate what steaks i eat based on sale
warm anchor
That would probably cut the price down yeah. I need one of them freezers in my garage lol
slim nymph
yep i got a small freezer in garage for extra storage lol
warm anchor
Yeah I plan to get one too since I now work from home a ton
slim nymph
but yeah im prob eating cheaper than my wife whos low fat diet lol
veggies are expensive
go spend like 2-3$ for a bag but gotta eat 2+ a day and still be hungry a lot lol.
wispy blade
@void void mental outlaw like's this one guy that only a certain type of people watch
but yes, i've been a subscriber for a while
warm anchor
go spend like 2-3$ for a bag but gotta eat 2+ a day and still be hungry a lot lo...
That’s awesome
void void
<@456226577798135808> mental outlaw like's this one guy that only a certain type...
he does fill a niche yes
left swift
if naomi watches means its bad
void void
nah his channel is "based"
wispy blade
i don't really watch his videos
void void
wait youtube removed dislikes?
wispy blade
he just spends 2 minutes talking about an exploit and the rest of the video is him talking about how it could've been prevented
lament patio
wait youtube removed dislikes?
Yes
void void
he doesn't go into the details but its whatever
left swift
remember they tried removing dislikes when they released that one YouTube rewind
golden gust
I think people can disable it already per video or something
turbid shoal
Today I think?
left swift
3 years ago
toxic bone
yeah 3 years ago
plucky sparrow
Oh yeaa thought so
slim nymph
How’s your fitness January <a:weebravemove:738228963721216012>
but I am down like 95lb, just now on those harder last 20~lb to go.
was actually bout to go buy some new smaller shirts cause everyone always telling me my shirts too big
warm anchor
Oh yeah. It gets harder the lighter you weight
slim nymph
but yeah dropped all that weight in less than a year
no excercise lol
still lazy about that
i do laps around house though some to warm up get circulation going
and to confuse the doggos
warm anchor
Lol your dog must be mega confused lol
wispy blade
always fun when you can abuse minecraft server logs to make friends behave
left swift
always fun when you can abuse friends
wispy blade
you send them their IP and they quiet down
left swift
u lose 96lbs from just dieting aikar?
void void
you send them their IP and they quiet down
void void
ip is basically just city tho
void void
what i meant is that their ip is useless to you since you already know where they live haha
daring gulch
make 0.1% of the requests fail so that people start switching
Lawful evil
left swift
ur so based naomi
void void
hi
left swift
reminds me of when I was 15 hosting minecraft servers
wispy blade
exactly
wispy blade
?
fringe void
so
toxic bone
so
wispy blade
os
toxic bone
ur
left swift
tropic flame
so uh, youtube did really remove the dislike count... from their frontend
invidious frontends can still access the dislike count and the app too, for now
"statistics": {
"viewCount": unsigned long,
"likeCount": unsigned long,
"dislikeCount": unsigned long,
"favoriteCount": unsigned long,
"commentCount": unsigned long
},
it's still in their API lmao, there's even still the "favoriteCount" (favorites haven't been a thing for years already? which makes me wonder if they'll actually give a fuck about changing the API)
magic river
Do they still update those fields though?
Maybe they're just set to 0 or whatever their last public value was to keep compat
tropic flame
i guess that's something we'll see in the next weeks
their video announcing the change has almost 36000 dislikes right now lmao, https://yewtu.be/watch?v=kxOuG8jMIgI
unkempt drift
what is yewtube
tropic flame
what is yewtube
it's a public Invidious instance - if you don't know what Invidious is, it's an alternative frontend to youtube
i kinda like it since it's more lightweight than the official website lol
left swift
go back to simping poki
toxic bone
damn bro ok
potent fossil
generally a good move to remove dislikes from showing up to most users simply due to mob mentality that results in brigading of dislikes
but maybe im the minority in that opinion
swift root
olive marlin
generally a good move to remove dislikes from showing up to most users simply du...
It was nice seeing whether people agree with the content of the video, without having to scroll down and read comments.
merry talon
Should just do it like reddit karma
silver nexus
Holy crap this launcher lmao
Worked fine until today
Get blue screened when trying to launch fabric. Idk what happens with vanilla
viscid wedge
Seems like the general consensus lately is that "the public is too stupid to have transparent rating systems for content"
potent fossil
Should just do it like reddit karma
yup that works well, show actual score (negative if it is, fine) and then what percent of the total score are upvotes
and well, soup, it's true
viscid wedge
yup that works well, show actual score (negative if it is, fine) and then what p...
Reddit karma isn't this transparent. The true value isn't shown until a certain amount of time has passed.
potent fossil
yup, to prevent vote brigading and botting (automated vote brigading)
it's almost like....that's my point
warm anchor
I will take youtube seriously if they start monitor those crypto scam livestream that rip off mainstream media or some famous guys speech and ask dumb ass for money
solid atlas
Hey there, is it possible that I can give permission to a linux user to execute the paper jar but at the same time giving him read-only permissions to the server folder?
golden gust
basically, no
Technically yes, but, you reaaaaallly don't wanna mess with that
really just worth using a panel if you need user access control stuff
coarse lily
Would be better off using a panel or some other kinda thing that runs the server and doesn't touch the files.
solid atlas
aight
yeah i thought maybe some group magic could be done but i guess it is harder than that
golden gust
stuff runs as the users it's ran as
solid atlas
ik and it makes sense
golden gust
you'd basically need to set something up to make the script execute as a specific user, which, iirc can be done with the sticky bit, but, I got no idea how that works, or, technically abusing sudo
Like, there are technically ways to get around it, but, then you're looking at ^, probably ACLs if you want read only perms for the user folder
solid atlas
ACLs would be?
golden gust
Somebody should do a poll for linux users and see if people have used ACLs and how much they love them 😄
access control lists, basically, extended perm flags more or less
solid atlas
I see
So about the panel thing, I know there is ptero, is there any other viable options there?
there there, smh
golden gust
after my last experience with them, I wouldn't wish having to deal with them on my worse enemy; even if I reaaaally hate eternity
ptero is pretty much the standard option these days
Theres whatever puffer turned into, but 🤷♂️
solid atlas
aight, will look into it, ty!
outer patio
twin lagoon
probably
twin lagoon
hello
cosmic raft
how are you
twin lagoon
epic
potent fossil
the reckoning begins
HARK YE ALL! Danger approaches
languid karma
so i have been able to shake my eyes since like 8 years old. i freaked my friends out and could never explain how i did it. today, i found out that it is called voluntary nystagmus.
still cant explain how i do it but at least now i can direct people to a google search
golden gust
I mean, it's like, for me
potent fossil
yeah that shows up on reddit every 3 months or so
golden gust
You sorta like, pull back on your eye, and it like, shakes
potent fossil
reddit is on a perpetual cycle of "woah i can shake my eyes can anyone else? TIL its called voluntary nystagmus" then the comments are filled with "woah what the fuck i can do it too i didnt know everybody couldn't do that!"
then the post dies
repeat 3 months later
void void
can anyone confirm this is true? https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/6803 im experiencing this also, treasure chests are in the wrong place etc
golden gust
Issue sounds wrong
if seed based search it used without the option to prevent chunk loading from it is disabled it will return "potential" locations, which isn't promised to have an actual structure there
void void
so sohuld i disable prevent chunk loading or disable seed basedf
golden gust
you want it to load chunks, basically
void void
do i 😨
is that the only option?
i swear you can do this without chunk loading normally? 🤔
void void
if seed based search it used without the option to prevent chunk loading from it...
this isnt what is happening
basically if i get a buried treasure map from a villager
100% of the time when i travel to the x there is no buried treasure
golden gust
try what i said
there is no promise that there is a structure there with the seed based without loading chunks
void void
let it load chunks? i fear the cartographer crash will return
golden gust
I mean, it's more optimised as it will only load "potential" chunks rather than all chunks
void void
true but its completely wrong always and I think its because of the structure seeds differing
golden gust
i think
void void
ok ill give it a shot 😄
keen aspen
is there any actual difference?
vestal jasper
From what I've read, TLDR don't update
void void
is there any actual difference?
the new launcher is a microsoft store app 🤮
vestal jasper
new launchers awesome, wont detect you own the games unless you sign into microsoft store as well, then it hard out crashes your pc when you try to download it. lol
toxic bone
i migrated and ive had no issues
vestal jasper
I have, i've had no issues
keen aspen
alright thanks guys
cosmic raft
I migrated back in May, have had no issues
vestal jasper
Yeah from the search history and a small amount of scrolling, most mentions of the new launcher are people complaining about it crashing their system consistently every use
I'm in no rush personally
twin lagoon
@vestal jasper uwu
tropic flame
if you have problems with the fancy shamancy new launcher then you can just get the old one at Minecraft.net
they name it the "Windows 7/8" launcher but ¯_(ツ)_/¯
toxic bone
wtf
they advertise it as the new launcher, the one you need for windows 10/11, and it doesn't even work?
golden gust
Well, theres been several dozen cases of it causing the OS to blue screen and shit
warm anchor
is there any actual difference?
Don’t do it bro
magic river
I thought it was just the same launcher but distributed via Microsoft/Xbox store
languid karma
the new launcher is annoying
took forever for me to switch
just stay with the normal one for like a couple of weeks
not to mention the icon 🤮
vestal jasper
well that failed, oops
magic river
TIL the book on how to identify, torture, and kill witches was written after a dude tried to bang a woman, tried to get her murdered when she turned him down, and was exiled from the town after the woman was acquitted and he wouldn't leave her alone
merry talon
magic river
I miss the days when I bounced between Full of Yarn and On Rails
merry talon
am soup
sharp spindle
austere ivy
(papermc adopting microsoft, that is)
golden gust
magic river
Some day Minecraft will stop getting updates and we'll get an OpenMW-style thing going for it
Not glowstone or any projects based on it, those are tainted and kind of bad design
austere ivy
OpenMW?
magic river
I want to see the kind of engine people can make when hobbyists spend a decade trying to remake Minecraft using the best tech possible
upbeat falconBOT
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austere ivy
Ah.
magic river
OpenMW is even mostly compatible with Morrowind mods, it's crazy
austere ivy
that’s really neat. I hope the same thing too
magic river
Of course Morrowind mods are mostly just new assets and scripts, as old and jank as it may be they at least have a proper engine design
pearl hearth
When joining a Cuberite 1.12.2 server from a PaperMC 1.8.8 hub over Waterfall with ViaVersion, on local:port servers using a 1.17.1 client, I don't get the "Loading terrain..." message. How can I replicate this on PaperMC?
magic river
Joking or not that's ban worthy
golden gust
that's more down to how fast the switch occurs
no surprise that a stripped down version of the server can do the join process much faster than the vanilla server software + plugins
toxic bone
When joining a Cuberite 1.12.2 server from a PaperMC 1.8.8 hub over Waterfall wi...
wtf
pearl hearth
All the servers are on the same machine, but I only get the "Loading terrain..." screen on java servers.
true canyon
merry talon
That's the most triggering sentence I've heard in a while
dull linden
i thought i couldn't understand stuff either lmaooo
golden gust
Yes, because the java servers are, well, mojang server software
once again, it's no surprise that a stripped down version of the server can process logins faster
toxic bone
I hate mojang!
pearl hearth
Are you saying Microsoft optimization is lazy? Because I agree.
golden gust
well, this is more on Mojang who are basically yet another dev team with targets which are more important than "mek fast"
magic river
Mojang cares about "fun for single player and maybe a 5 player realms instance"
pearl hearth
Mojang has to host their overpriced realms...
magic river
The difference is probably chunk hashmap lookup and how fast the code to convert from in memory format to packet format is
Possibly some netty vs whatever cuberite uses stuff too but I doubt there is much to that
golden gust
anti-xray too, etc
dull linden
isn't cuberite the software writing mc in c++ or something?
golden gust
yup
dull linden
damn lmao
pearl hearth
it's more Lua
magic river
Sure, there is also encryption which is probably kind of slow in Java, especially for smaller payloads
gilded steeple
Someone needs to make up their mind. In the #announcements there is apparently “no plans” to discontinue waterfall in the near future, however Tux’s announcement says otherwise.
magic river
Although cryptographic stuff is usually only efficient at large sizes anyway
cosmic raft
yes, discontinue
pearl hearth
Is there an easy way to remove the message that tells the cliant to show the "Terrain loading..." screen?
magic river
Sure, mod the client
cosmic raft
there's a difference between discontinuing something and deprecating something, @gilded steeple
gleaming galleon
Hi
dull linden
hello
potent fossil
just in case it's needed:
- deprecation: "it's old, dont use it. use X instead."
- discontinue: "we're not going to work on it at all anymore"
🚶♂️
cosmic raft
@gilded steeple ^^
ancient bolt
Well uh, the deprecation will end with us discontinuing it
peak dirge
Someone needs to make up their mind. In the <#492517675680006144> there is appar...
"Discontinue" means "we're not working on X any longer". "Deprecate" means "X is still supported, but no meaningful advancement is going to take place, you should move to Y instead"
potent fossil
peak dirge
in this case, Waterfall will continue to accept security fixes, bug fixes, and will update to upstream, but it's strongly recommended you start migrating to Velocity
civic atlas
Hey guys, i need a little help
potent fossil
civic atlas
thanks
chrome cosmos
managed to killl my ubuntu machine
golden gust
apt install steam?
chrome cosmos
ubuntu decided to force kill itself in a middle of a update
chrome cosmos
ubuntu decided to force kill itself in a middle of a update
i was just in my online classes
golden gust
define "killed itself"
chrome cosmos
smooth classes
laptop off
golden gust
and when booting again?
chrome cosmos
white screen of death
potent fossil
so basically your graphics drivers went wonky
golden gust
boot into recovery, no idea if you need to hit an option to enable networking, but, mount the root partition as rw, and then apt install -f
Failing that, there was a dpkg command to run
chrome cosmos
boot into recovery, no idea if you need to hit an option to enable networking, b...
i am stupid and it is a dual boot
i don't know ubuntu much
chrome cosmos
so basically your graphics drivers went wonky
"integrated graphics"
pearl hearth
eww
pearl hearth
apple stole the window system, and then microsoft stole apple's thing
magic river
Uh
potent fossil
well this is getting dumb fast
chrome cosmos
really it is actually bugs
magic river
iirc the only thing you could really say for sure Apple got from the Alto was nested menus
Otherwise before they visited LISA already had a GUI with a mouse
TIL LISA OS had preemptive multitasking
macOS wouldn't get that until OS X
chrome kite
I had a question, why spend time making a software for a pixel block game?
magic river
Asks the guy running the most cursed block game stack I've heard of
Oh wait that some someone else
chrome cosmos
I had a question, why spend time making a software for a pixel block game?
I need monke armour stand plugins and poop blocks in multiplayer
magic river
Whatever, all you NoRoles look the same to me
(their name is the same length and their avatar didn't load until I refreshed discord)
chrome cosmos
Casualy insults (nons)
golden gust
God dangit
viscid wedge
When joining a Cuberite 1.12.2 server from a PaperMC 1.8.8 hub over Waterfall wi...
underrated message
ancient bolt
God dangit
you've done this to yourself
added some role icons
wonder what people will think lol
magic river
Fancy
ancient bolt
I wish I could have my swifty role icon take precedence
jade flax
Ironic that they all show up as 
on the side
ancient bolt
i gave that icon to all of the paper team roles
golden gust
modern path
The merger with velocity got me thinking 🤔, would paper ever merge with spigot?
ripe sphinx
the entire reason paper exists is because MD doesn't merge paper's changes
oh cool I got a heart
limber knotBOT
well, there are more ideological reasons Paper exists over spigot as well. Like spigot requiring a CLA to view contributions or make contributions, or comment on potential contributions
unkempt drift
someone needs to tell the bridge that my profile picture is right there
cunning raft
underscore did that i think
ripe sphinx
I did what? nvm I see
unkempt drift
it should try to replace spaces with underscores and vice versa
limber knotBOT
cause you cant have underscores on irc iirc
unkempt drift
cant have spaces*
magic river
eww there is all this white stuff on the ground outside
modern path
well, there are more ideological reasons Paper exists over spigot as well. Like ...
Whats a CLA
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by Joshie - About 296,000,000 results (0.31 seconds)
limber knotBOT
Contributor License Agreement I think
you've got to sign it, and give a bunch of info to have access to the pull requests on md_5's stash repo
modern path
As if open source licensing wasn't complicated enough
little frost
The merger with velocity got me thinking 🤔, would paper ever merge with spigot?
the absolute opposite will happen
ancient bolt
paper will make spigot irrelevant, as soon as we're no longer a fork of spigot at least
potent fossil
magic river
It already kind of is irrelevant, except to the extent it messes with any plans Paper has https://kennytv.eu/secretgraph/
chrome cosmos
Worst case : spigot goes closed source
magic river
Not possible
potent fossil
everything's possible if you can't read
ancient bolt
It already kind of is irrelevant, except to the extent it messes with any plans ...
make sure to select both 1.17 and 1.17.1 for that graph to show the full story
spigot is relevant only until paper releases
but paper plugins being backwards compatible with spigot means it still is relevant to a degree
but once that is no longer the case, people will just move to paper so they can keep using their plugins
little frost
but paper plugins being backwards compatible with spigot means it still is relev...
unless you use the paper api? isn't it more that spigot plugins are compatible with paper, so the other way around?
ancient bolt
yes, and if you're using the new paper api additions we add then sure
what I mean is the core API is compatible
golden gust
theres a good bunch of paper plugins which still work on spigot as they can just disable features where the methods they require aren't available
chrome cosmos
When starlight Bobby compatible?
ancient bolt
when we are no longer a fork and our core api starts to fundamentally change thanks to the long list of things we want to fix but can't due to spigot - spigot plugins will no longer work on paper
little frost
😌
magic river
Wow, the Mesa project actually cares about zink on lavapipe performance
I guess maybe Valve uses it for CI or something
lean kiln
When starlight Bobby compatible?
when the author decides to implement it
magic river
What is Bobby?
lean kiln
iirc leaf already changed the way light is saved so it's easier for them to hook
some mod
with a funny name
it saves chunks client side for higher view distances
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by sharvesh - About 99,000 results (0.27 seconds)
elfin steppe
what happened here 
magic river
Sounds like a world downloader mod to me, time for a ban
little frost
first is bstats bug probably, second is .1 release?
turbid shoal
Bobby is not a world downloader mod
chrome cosmos
Sounds like a world downloader mod to me, time for a ban
Bobby is helpful on servers with 4 render distance or slow chunk load speeds
lean kiln
but yeah from my knowledge it's basically on them to support starlight at this point
little frost
bobby is helpful for nice screenshots
magic river
You're saving my intellectual property to your computer, you'll be hearing from my lawyer 😛
little frost
that's all i use it for (on servers)
chrome cosmos
You're saving my intellectual property to your computer, you'll be hearing from ...
Gasps in decompiling minecraft
cunning raft
You're saving my intellectual property to your computer, you'll be hearing from ...
you mean my nft?
elfin steppe
reminds me of this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/471264315736064031/906250778044424273/FB_IMG_1636137401708.jpg
magic river
That was kind of what I was going for
Except in this case with somewhat more of a legal leg to stand on
potent fossil
lol
warm anchor
reminds me of this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/471264315736064031/9...
it's epic!
wait I got a role icon now??
atleast give me sausage
potent fossil
welp my brother and his girlfriend have covid and i've got nowhere to go to get the fuck away from this place. im quarantining myself and wearing a mask indoors. if i get it, im fucked. i'll fail my physics class
this is amazing
magic river
I wish my role icon was 
warm anchor
TRUE. We should RIOT Amaranth
golden gust
~~atleast give me sausage~~
No comment
warm anchor
or use your bukkit connection
warm anchor
ok that's a lot of riot
cosmic raft
golden gust
God, I saw something on YT of that movie a few days ago, generally saying that it was towards the end of simpsons "good" years
Some part of me debates on rewatching it at some point
ancient bolt
mfw @magic river isn't a real swifty
livid cosmos
Hi
foggy veldt
Paper 2021 visualized https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/469519285287649291/546305992158085120/avqsyignry801.gif
magic river
https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Homer's_Enemy is where The Simpsons jumped the shark
magic river
foggy veldt
Manifesting in 10 years paper has an excess of money and creates an anime about paperchan running a Minecraft server
)
worn crest
you can DM aurora but I think shes sleeping (well she better be <:gunrie:8067099...
Wasn't aurora German?
warm anchor
yes
worn crest
It's 7am so could be that she's awake
worn crest
2021 is a big year for paper haha #announcements
limber knotBOT
hangar wen
warm anchor
@ mini 
quick pasture
spiral robin
Hi
cosmic raft
hello aber
fossil patio
who is that beautiful person in pink 
fossil patio
you're gonna miss your new laptop being delivered though D:
warm anchor
The pizza deal is still on the table 😉 @spiral robin
spiral robin
It’s coming on the 14th now apparently 
fossil patio
2 days :o
void void
Velocity 
magic river
I don't know what has gone wrong with my Windows system but when I open a new tab in Firefox my mouse lags
wtf
fossil patio
apple i'm angry 
spiral robin
The pizza deal is still on the table 😉 <@!271510274475819008>
I told zml the other day!!!!
warm anchor
magic river
It randomly does when I switch tabs in Firefox too...
fossil patio
hackintosh comes with its own problems unfortunately
spiral robin
No it’s 100% problem free wdym
magic river
I have nvidia 3070 so... nope
fossil patio
linux time
magic river
That's my laptop
fossil patio
magic river
The whole point of the desktop is to be a Windows machine to play games, watch movies, and open any random crap I need that is Windows only
fossil patio
makes sense. could try brave, it's not a bad browser. plus bat is worth quite a bit rn, so the ads are worth having on
fossil patio
didn't the last update have some rendering upgrade? could be with that
no i'm thinking of the stuff they're working on, nvm
just blame windows 
magic river
webrender has been a thing for a while
prime coral
just blame windows <:PepeLa:798951090539987004>
Stop that 
fossil patio
nah they're bringing gdm to rendering iirc
magic river
gdm?
marble lark
I don't know what has gone wrong with my Windows system but when I open a new ta...
the polling rate on Amaranth's mouse be like Ight imma head out
fossil patio
.> I should stop talking when I'm tired hah
it's egl and they're only bringing it to linux
so.. completely irrelevant
magic river
I already use wayland on linux so have had EGL in firefox for like a year
fossil patio
oo how's that been? tempted to take the leap since i already use gnome
magic river
It's a little awkward due to hidpi stuff
Xwayland doesn't support fractional scaling so all X apps draw at 1x and get scaled up, blurry mess
Instead I turned on the large text option in accessibility, means my theme is all out of whack since the padding on things doesn't scale
Under Xorg I just wouldn't have fractional scaling so it's hard to fault wayland for it
fossil patio
I was wondering what apps you might be having a problem with, googled intellij and seems like it doesn't have support yet..
magic river
Yep 😄
That's pretty much it
The rest are either wayland native or I don't use enough to care
fossil patio
https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/wakefield guess they're waiting on this
magic river
Maybe for Java 27
fossil patio
it says fully native wayland apps will take years to fully complete so.. you're probably right 😅
magic river
wayland has been a thing for like a decade, distros have been using it by default for like 4 years, Java started working on wayland support in September
fossil patio
possibly march, but it does seem very deprioritized
wonder why jetbrains doesn't use their own renderer by this point, i imagine it's something they've considered
magic river
Fixed a case where the in-game overlay appeared in some CEF based game launchers in a broken manner
Steam you can just say the overlay was broken in Melvor Idle, it's okay
Oh wait but that says launcher so maybe they didn't fix the bug I'm thinking of
Moving my mouse around causes 7.5% CPU usage in dwm.exe
warm anchor
merry talon
I can't use brave due to the taskbar icon being ugly
void void
look how they massacred my boy
wispy blade
idk still looks like a fox to me
fossil patio
for the record i think it looks slick and i understand why they did it but - the old fox with their brown little nose :((
void void
you sure?
marble lark
Why would you use any other browser when you can have a cute <:sleeping_fox:8132...
not accurate the fox in the emote isn't on fire
magic river
Maybe Firefox was a mistake
void void
wispy blade
time for NL lockdown #3 woo
wispy blade
NOS: beperkte lockdown duurt drie weken, horeca om 19.00 uur dicht
https://f7td5.app.goo.gl/7Jbn9q
Verzonden via @updayNL
potent fossil
i miss the iconic 2004 logo https://assets.turbologo.com/blog/en/2021/07/22032310/mozilla-firefox-logo-evolution.png
speak english we dont speak bastard german here
nimble depot
look how they massacred my boy
They massacred him even more
magic river
vernal moth
Now it's edge masterrace
nimble depot
Tbh I prefer the 2017 firefoz logo or Firefox dev / firefox nightly
wispy blade
ye 2017 ff logo is nice
marble lark
eh
vernal moth
@void void what's wrong with edge?
magic river
If I couldn't use Firefox I'd probably use Edge
wispy blade
haven't actually seriously used FF since 2019 lol
potent fossil
firefox is still my bae browser
stiff wadi
edge has a maths solver which imo is great
wispy blade
so does chrome
nimble depot
We call edge EGDE @ work. Just reskinned chromium
wispy blade
chrome
magic river
It's not just reskinned Chromium, it's just mostly that
void void
<@456226577798135808> what's wrong with edge?
I hate how aggressive microsoft is with edge
potent fossil
does the math solver do calculus or just basic algebra shit
magic river
afaik they have their own network and caching stuff and some other improvements
nimble depot
Firefox
stiff wadi
it does quadratics and stuff well
wispy blade
does the math solver do calculus or just basic algebra shit
it can solve some algebra
magic river
Most of their changes are in the UI layer though, for sure
potent fossil
useless
void void
I hate how aggressive microsoft is with edge
Not being able to close it while in the "welcome" wizard, constantly setting it to the default browser, etc
potent fossil
i need my browser to do discrete math and solve integrals
nimble depot
On my Debian box I build Firefox from source because I have a god complex
void void
of course you do
wispy blade
i only use firefox for opening login pages on public wifi networks
potent fossil
ok anyway im going to bed bye
magic river
Your firefox from source is probably like 15% slower than the build from Mozilla
wispy blade
o/ smilpe
vernal moth
Mircosoft doesn't change default browsers ever?
Once you did set something it stays, lol
nimble depot
Who needs to download git clone and gcc go BRRRR
void void
Mircosoft doesn't change default browsers ever?
It definitely did for me
multiple times
magic river
Mozilla uses profile guided optimization on their builds with the profiling data coming from running their rendering test suite, iirc
Firefox can change the default browser for you in 1 click on Windows 11
nimble depot
At least nobody brought up the browser all the kids use now a days. That rgb chromium reskin
magic river
Someone mentioned Brave earlier
nimble depot
No brave is somewhat okay (despite shoving referral links in people's faces)
Browser for gamers, my arse. Low memory usage for crying out loud. My Firefox build uses less resources that that thing stock. And I have like Ublock, NoScript, HTTPS Everywhere, Shodan and a lot more shit installed
magic river
ublock origin lowers memory usage
nimble depot
That's partly why I have it
marble lark
used to use it for PC as well but it just took up way too much memory
magic river
That's one of the big reasons I don't want to get an iPhone, I want real Firefox
Brave CEO invented JavaScript
That is pretty shady
warm anchor
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by TheShermanTanker - About 188,000,000 results (0.29 seconds)
nimble depot
True. And then you have opera with millions of different versions that all seem to be reskins
And the one all the kids use who think it makes their computer faster so they get more fps in whatever garbage they play now a days.
wispy blade
i used to use it on mobile cuz it actually has decent adblock
but eh
not like i browse the internet a lot on my phone
nimble depot
I support cryptocurrency but not brave
magic river
Brave raised money via https://basicattentiontoken.org/
nimble depot
Never heard
I remember tho when me and a few of my friends figured out you can mine crypto with GitHub actions
magic river
🤢
ancient bolt
If you use Brave you support cryptocurrencies
Lmao, of course
Ah, so destroying the Earth's ecosystems is cool
minor badge
Why didn't this migrate with Dyno -> Warship? I don't see any unban messages, and Warship has no history of it.
?ban 800437911287758848 Ban evasion (Chivitos100)
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned Chivitos#7007 (Ban evasion (Chivitos100)) [1 total infraction] -- Proximyst#6900.
minor badge
@cosmic raft ^
bleak moat
hello
marble lark
bedrock feels weird to me that's for sure
golden gust
We're currently the Paper Master Collective
wide chasm
So, PMC. Hmm, what does that remind me of... /s
swift root
maybe something like Ream. Lots of different sheets!
or 'Generic Conglomeration of Software Projects'
mental meadow
what do you mean soon?
swift root
and monetization, of which we all get a cut
AND also location information. from everyone, naturally. Then we can sell it to those nefarious actors over at kyori for heaps of cash
perfect scheme
minor badge
you seen that magic little bstats http spam we do? 
swift root
the bstats abuse was supposed to be a secret mari 😩
mental meadow
bstats is blocked by my pihole 😦
swift root
rip
chrome cosmos
Commuisim minecraft development
solar igloo
mossy vessel
That's like christmas, getting earlier within every year
minor badge
I wouldn't expect it (at the very least not stable) anytime before 2022
mental meadow
they've already started asking?
I think that was the first
minor badge
it was not
viscid wedge
good evening
viscid wedge
I wouldn't expect it (at the very least not stable) anytime before 2022
when is Mojang set to release again?
ok I thought so
that's really optimistic them
olive marlin
I know many people are expecting around end of month. But it's not backed by anything.
mossy vessel
pre1 dropped yesterday, take a look at the release line of past releases and you can guess how long it takes.
viscid wedge
I'm not worried about it anyways. I'll tell my players what I always do.
The server will be staying a stable version behind at 1.17.1, just like it has for every other major update
Any other university students able to tell me whether the feeling of not knowing what the fuck you're doing goes away?
spice ether
Never that's life in a nutshell
minor badge
A goal date is set (and obviously possible to move should it be absolutely necessary), but it's not public yet. I can tell you in good time ;)
viscid wedge
Never that's life in a nutshell
excellent
potent cradle
ok i know im going to sound stupid but how do i update my paper i tried putting the .jar many places xd
wide chasm
Any other university students able to tell me whether the feeling of not knowing...
I just do what they ask and then pray, seems to work so far
viscid wedge
ok i know im going to sound stupid but how do i update my paper i tried putting ...
wrong channel but you need to replace whatever jar you're currently running the server with with the one you downloaded
potent cradle
i know im sorry but i saw people in here xd and so the paper.yml
viscid wedge
I just do what they ask and then pray, seems to work so far
Seems to be working just fine
I don't know. I think I should've listened to myself and known I wasn't ready for another round of school right after graduation.
I'm probably gonna fail at least two of my classes
golden gust
Eventually you stop caring lol
viscid wedge
It's burning a hell of a hole in my wallet though man
If I work during the semester I usually make enough to pay for the next one barring stuff like rent
But it's not enough to live off of, just subside
golden gust
Like, most lecturers I had where okay, only one was kinda obtuse in what he asked for, like, meeting all of his askings on an assignment was worth like 70_80%
wide chasm
Failing classes is normal, just retry next year
golden gust
Might I suggest a wig, a maid dress, a TikTok and an of
wide chasm
Passing percentage on courses here is ~50%, so the other 50% fails.
viscid wedge
That's the thing. My struggles aren't really with the assignments or even midterms, it's entirely mental roadblocks. I've been so bored with life lately that I can't motivate myself to sit down and stare at a paper for three hours.
I don't know if it's ADD, depression, or some other shit, but I just can't do school right now
wide chasm
Might want to consider talking to your student counselor/advisor
You can talk to them and if they feel like there is more going on, they can redirect you to a suitable medical professional.
viscid wedge
I already know I have things wrong with me so I'm not particularly worried about doing that lol
viscid wedge
Night cat
Point is, I'm getting cabin fever in this small town I guess. I wanna see the world, make some meaningful memories somewhere, so I don't have to keep remembering how miserable my teen years were
But I can't even do that because the world is still assbackwards
wide chasm
You might want to look into options for travelling/studying abroad then. Even with covid, this might still be possible depending on where you live. You can ask a study advisor about the possibilities.
minor badge
if you're a good java dev, you could easily get a decent job also ^^
viscid wedge
I'm a modest Java dev. I can't do much more than port existing plugins yet.
minor badge
that might be a decent way forwards? if you enjoy it, that is
at least over here in Sweden, there are 3 month bootcamps where you go from beginner to pretty decent and get to try it out in the real world in a 6 month trial period job
viscid wedge
Interesting
I'm generally more interested in the system administration side of things, but it's definitely something to consider, thanks
wide chasm
Could try looking for a (paid) internship
viscid wedge
I don't think unpaid ones are legal where I live
wide chasm
Well, if you go that route you'll also be getting paid
vernal moth
Totally unrelated, we just posted 7 (!!) Positions for my team at work, come join me, lmao
viscid wedge
I'm sorry, but I don't speak German
vernal moth
Can learn that while learning java, np ^^
viscid wedge
Brutal
vernal moth
I just want somebody to click that link, apply, and be accepted, I would get 5000 euro for that because that's how desperate my company is apparently 😂
viscid wedge
Still probably better than school though
Goddamn
That's some high stakes headhunting
mossy vessel
Not only your company, we have mandatory open positions for years nobody applies/gets accepted lol
vernal moth
That's nothing, a professional head hunter normally gets a bonus worth the first 3 wages or something
It's insane
mossy vessel
Wondering if there's no policy to assign someone, working without team leaders for 2 1/2 years now
viscid wedge
That's nothing, a professional head hunter normally gets a bonus worth the first...
Typically yeah. Just crazy that they're incentivizing employees to do it.
vernal moth
Not all positions have such a high bonus
wide chasm
We had/have that going here as well, but for a fraction of that amount
wide chasm
Think it was like ~250 euros or smth
viscid wedge
Brother I spreche kein Deutsch
vernal moth
Half the position names are English anyways, lol
wide chasm
Well, you already have your first three words, sounds like you're good to go 😉
viscid wedge
Coincidentally the half I didn't look at
vernal moth
But it's insane, we have 339 positings, many for multiple actual positions
viscid wedge
Think it was like ~250 euros or smth
That sounds more common
vernal moth
We actually had an English team for a while, in data science
viscid wedge
It's a usual onboarding tactic
vernal moth
Well, it's a win win, I get to choose nice teammates, I get money, company gets more applications
viscid wedge
Yeah
vernal moth
But yeah, for my team alone the company is happy to spend like 50k to find new people, it's crazy
viscid wedge
Crazy how much money businesses can just throw around
50k would be life changing for me right now
viral hornet
Omg Entwickler
wide chasm
50k is nothing for a company
wide chasm
"Did someone update the servers from this old unsupported version yet?"
"No"
"Okay, I'll buy a couple extended support licenses then"
wide chasm
Why would you replace something when you can just buy extended support until the end of time /s
wispy blade
dev riot
viscid wedge
That seems to be the general tactic at work. Buy new things until you can't anymore.
Then wait a few and buy some more
minor badge
@vernal moth you should learn english and come work with me instead :)
wispy blade
dibs
wide chasm
Please ask this in #paper-help
vernal moth
Sadly I love my job mariell
And hey, my English definitely is passable in an work environment!
little frost
compiler tests take forever 🙃
olive marlin
Lmao: https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/3260807
Chromium disabling inspect element / viewing site source, because apparently schools were doing exams where forms had correct answers client-side in the source.
That's for enterprise/school setups, there's a list of urls for which it'll be blocked.
And then someone will use Firefox to fill the form and they'll call him a hacker.
olive marlin
Of course it isn't. It's all nioma fault.
worn ember
ah yes security through obscurity
if anything its their own fault for not having a proper system
little frost
reminds me of the "hacker" who stole social security numbers from HTML comments
worn ember
there was a bug in a delivery package service here were you could literally search the entire database for deliveries and not just your own 
vernal moth
Well, don't make a big fuss about it
There is already a policy to disable dev tools
That change just makes that policy actually consistent
worn ember
inb4 "you dont own the website you visit thus you shouldnt see the src"
vernal moth
The change is literally just a Bugfix
mental meadow
@quasi valley what is your opinion now that another weeb joined the org
quasi valley
worn ember
time to move to spigot 
wispy blade
knenyspigot when
marble lark
tacospigot
little frost
void void
role icons 
whole prawn
is #velocity-help meant to be a faster help channel than #paper-help ||/s||
marble lark
is <#908507866183372801> meant to be a faster help channel than <#28958790905141...
yes
why else would it be called velocity
warm anchor
@stray oyster 
stray oyster
<@371398411867521024> <:WatamePog:772205040274112532>
warm anchor
Guten Morgen 
twin lagoon
weebs
waxen panther
toxic bone
No
quasi valley
untold copper
day #157 of trying to get abs (yesterday): 22 Zone Minutes. no exercise.
day #158 of trying to get abs (today): no exercise, am very tired because school. so i just slept the whole day.
marble lark
am very tired ... so i just slept the whole day.
Relatable
nimble depot
my power just went out
toxic bone
get good
rose umbra
Does anyone know a 24/7 Good Free Hosting?
mental meadow
"good" "free hosting"
waxen panther
you wont find one :p
worn ember
i heard brocc provides free services
rose umbra
yeah..
turbid shoal
Does anyone know a 24/7 Good Free Hosting?
7/24?
worn ember
good free hosting
pick one
lament patio
There's aternos and minehut to host a couple of players or so, it doesn't get much better than those
void void
oracal cloud
rose umbra
oracal
worn crest
Does anyone know a 24/7 Good Free Hosting?
why not collecting bottles at the train station and buy one for 1€/Month 🤔
rose umbra
why not collecting bottles at the train station and buy one for 1€/Month 🤔
good idea
thanks
worn crest
you could self host though
nah... his pc must always run and free the port isnt easy haha