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twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:27 PM

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the msi laptop below

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it has a 3080

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:27 PM

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That’s a 3070 max

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:27 PM

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they are not fucking around

vernal moth Oct 18, 2021, 5:27 PM

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Oh but it got beaten

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:27 PM

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That's not the 3070 Max

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:27 PM

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Oh nvm it’s 3080

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Wrong laptop

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My bad

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:28 PM

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It stomps the 3070 and slightly loses to the 3080 but uses 100W less power

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:28 PM

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This seems like a great win to me

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Are we talking about an igpu

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:29 PM

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Well, it only beats the 3070 by about as much as the 3080 beats it but it does it using like 40W less power

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:29 PM

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Well is it an igpu

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:29 PM

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Yeah, it's an iGPU

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:29 PM

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Damn

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An igpu beating a 3070 and almost the 3080

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Crazy

vernal moth Oct 18, 2021, 5:29 PM

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I mean

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It's not fair to compare it to an Intel igpu

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It's closer to an amd Apu

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It's a SoC after all

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:30 PM

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64gb vram?

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What in the world

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Intel iGPUs are also in an SoC...

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And beat the current AMD APUs

warm anchor Oct 18, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Apple is going ham today

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:30 PM

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I can totally see this being used in Mac pros

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:31 PM

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I think I might spend too much money today

warm anchor Oct 18, 2021, 5:31 PM

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LOL

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Will not go to waste

warm anchor Oct 18, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Let us know how it is amaranth

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:31 PM

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MagSafe

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:31 PM

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And they say Apple is bad

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MacBook time!!!!!

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:31 PM

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It has a notch!

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:31 PM

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IT HAS?

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:31 PM

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14" and 16", notch, probably miniled too then

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:31 PM

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LOL

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:31 PM

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FUCK

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I'LL STICK TO MY DELL XPS

cosmic raft Oct 18, 2021, 5:32 PM

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?

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:32 PM

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I love the notch but I feel like it’ll make the menu bar thiccer

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Seems like the leakers got all the external stuff right

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Ports, notch, sizes, etc

cosmic raft Oct 18, 2021, 5:32 PM

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magic river MagSafe

?

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:32 PM

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They brought back MagSafe

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:32 PM

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IT HAS SUCH A BIG NOTCH

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LOL

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:32 PM

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It has a magnetic charging port again

cosmic raft Oct 18, 2021, 5:32 PM

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WHAT does

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lol

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:32 PM

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MBP

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:32 PM

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What’s the purpose of such a giant notch

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If no Face ID

cosmic raft Oct 18, 2021, 5:33 PM

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why the fuck are they going backwards

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Camera, light sensor, microphone

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People really wanted the magsafe

cosmic raft Oct 18, 2021, 5:33 PM

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why though

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:33 PM

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No more touchbar, thank god

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And sure enough, full black keyboard

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Because MagSafe is great

cosmic raft Oct 18, 2021, 5:33 PM

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USB-C is better :p

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:34 PM

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There is still usb c

void void Oct 18, 2021, 5:34 PM

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magic river No more touchbar, thank god

touchbar was nice

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:34 PM

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it's so fucking ugly

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holy shit

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:34 PM

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HDMI, TB4, SD card on right, headphone, 2x TB4, magsafe on left

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:34 PM

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Is that HDMI full size?

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:34 PM

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It's not like they deleted a port to put magsafe in

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And you can still charge from all the TB4 ports

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:34 PM

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Why is the new MacBook Pro so thick

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And ugly

austere ivy Oct 18, 2021, 5:34 PM

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i don’t like usb-c’s mechanical port but please don’t tell me that apple’s switching to another port

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:35 PM

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magsafe is back

austere ivy Oct 18, 2021, 5:35 PM

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anyone got a link to the stream?

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:35 PM

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once again

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:35 PM

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They are!

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:35 PM

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https://youtu.be/exM1uajp--A

YouTube

Apple

Apple Event — October 18

Watch the special Apple Event.
October 18, 2021, at 10 a.m. PDT.
Set a reminder and we’ll send you an update before the show.

▶ Play video

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but that's not the worst thing

austere ivy Oct 18, 2021, 5:35 PM

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ty

austere ivy Oct 18, 2021, 5:35 PM

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twin lagoon but that's not the worst thing

?

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:35 PM

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The notch is ok I like it

void void Oct 18, 2021, 5:35 PM

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They still support thunderbolt charging

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nice

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:35 PM

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But this new mbp is so damn thick

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Good, thicker laptop should mean more battery and better cooling

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Fuck slicing cake with your laptop 😛

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:36 PM

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THE MENU BAR IS THICKER AS WELL?

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:36 PM

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austere ivy ?

it has a fucking notch

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:36 PM

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that’s so ugly

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:36 PM

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a dell xps 13 from 2020 has a smaller bezel

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:36 PM

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It’s the ugliest menu bar I’ve ever seen

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:36 PM

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and a webcam

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:36 PM

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It looks cheap

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It doesn’t even have Face ID

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:36 PM

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They're doing the weird resolutions

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Guessing that's so fullscreen apps can be pushed below the notch and be standard 16:10

austere ivy Oct 18, 2021, 5:37 PM

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dang the verge is fast lmao

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Promotion on macs

austere ivy Oct 18, 2021, 5:37 PM

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twin lagoon it has a fucking notch

good LORD. on a computer??

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:37 PM

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what an emotional rollercoaster

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Wait actually the menu bar looks great

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:37 PM

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ProMotion is either PSR, VRR, or both

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:37 PM

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I wish they made it full black tho

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Nothing amazing just most laptop makers do a shit job of those

austere ivy Oct 18, 2021, 5:37 PM

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plucky sparrow It doesn’t even have Face ID

what’s the point of the notch then :I

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:38 PM

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Small bezels

wispy blade Oct 18, 2021, 5:38 PM

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can yall maybe send screenshots next time thx

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:38 PM

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No

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:38 PM

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Notch has webcam, light sensor (I think it's a bit fancier than that?), and microphone

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:38 PM

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Watch the event

wispy blade Oct 18, 2021, 5:38 PM

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what if i can't

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:38 PM

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That’s a you problem

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The notch is so thick

quasi valley Oct 18, 2021, 5:38 PM

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can we get michael but with a notch

wispy blade Oct 18, 2021, 5:39 PM

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just bonk him

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ez

austere ivy Oct 18, 2021, 5:39 PM

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whoop dee doo a 1080p camera

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:39 PM

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THEY HAVE THIS BIG OF A NOTCH AND THEY ONLY HAVE A 1080P CAMERA

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:39 PM

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laptop webcams are shit

void void Oct 18, 2021, 5:39 PM

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austere ivy whoop dee doo a 1080p camera

about fucking time

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:39 PM

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If it's even decent that's worth the size 😛

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:40 PM

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6 speakers

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:40 PM

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Thicker laptop should mean better sound too

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:40 PM

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The new MacBook pros remind me of what they used to look like ages ago

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:40 PM

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Yeah they more or less reset to 2015 and tweaked from there

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:41 PM

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It’s so rounded as well

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Sure enough, 16" can have M1P or M1M

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Damn

void void Oct 18, 2021, 5:41 PM

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holy shit it has ports

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:42 PM

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14" can have M1M too!

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:42 PM

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I’m starting to like the notch tbh

austere ivy Oct 18, 2021, 5:42 PM

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plucky sparrow I’m starting to like the notch tbh

oh no

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:42 PM

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If only they made the text and the apple logo in the menu bar bigger

austere ivy Oct 18, 2021, 5:42 PM

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dang they’re ragging on intel lol

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:42 PM

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Fuck I'm going to spend too much money, I just got this laptop 18 months ago...

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:42 PM

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So it looks proportionate

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Intel is probably crying right now

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I love it how they laughed at apple

worn ember Oct 18, 2021, 5:44 PM

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void void holy shit it has ports

looks like it would make for a good mousepad

warm anchor Oct 18, 2021, 5:44 PM

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Ded you are too poor for this mousepad

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 5:44 PM

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doesn't mean hes wrong tho

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:45 PM

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Fast charge!

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1hr full charge

warm anchor Oct 18, 2021, 5:45 PM

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PepeLa

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:45 PM

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I think this it the biggest jump ever seen in a MacBook

worn ember Oct 18, 2021, 5:46 PM

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plucky sparrow 1hr full charge

make sure you do not put it on your lap if you want to keep your legs unbaked

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:46 PM

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Eh I doubt it will overheat

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If anything it might get slightly hot when charging

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That’s it

worn ember Oct 18, 2021, 5:47 PM

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well either they pass a shit load of current through it or the battery is tiny for it to charge that fast

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:47 PM

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The best MBP is probably gonna cost you a lung

warm anchor Oct 18, 2021, 5:48 PM

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$2k

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:48 PM

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$2k

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base model though

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:48 PM

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2.5k

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For the 16inch

austere ivy Oct 18, 2021, 5:48 PM

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haha yeah I’m not affording that

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:48 PM

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Can’t wait for M2

austere ivy Oct 18, 2021, 5:48 PM

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2.5k :’)

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:48 PM

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When M1 Pro Max

worn ember Oct 18, 2021, 5:49 PM

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a lung goes for like 75K

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:49 PM

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Well

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Two eyes will be then

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:51 PM

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lmao nevermind

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 5:52 PM

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please

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michael

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please

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don't tell me lightning is lichtnet

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WHAT EVEN IS DUTCH

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:52 PM

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It always throws me off that https://store.apple.com isn't really where you buy stuff online anymore

worn ember Oct 18, 2021, 5:52 PM

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man who has that kinda money to spend on a glorified tablet

warm anchor Oct 18, 2021, 5:52 PM

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Dutch is when you type while drunk

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:52 PM

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mental meadow don't tell me lightning is lichtnet

no

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that's just wall charger

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i don't think i've ever seen anyone use it except for apple

worn ember Oct 18, 2021, 5:53 PM

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warm anchor Dutch is when you type while drunk

we type afrikaans when drunk

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:53 PM

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ded you're belgian

warm anchor Oct 18, 2021, 5:53 PM

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Lmao

void void Oct 18, 2021, 5:53 PM

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twin lagoon i don't think i've ever seen anyone use it except for apple

^

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:53 PM

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you speak gibberish compared to proper dutch

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 5:53 PM

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like the reddit post i posted in the other server

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"knuffel"

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:53 PM

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hug

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 5:53 PM

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and "webwinkel"

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:53 PM

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Wtf

worn ember Oct 18, 2021, 5:53 PM

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kalender

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:53 PM

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twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 5:53 PM

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that one makes more sense

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:53 PM

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4k

void void Oct 18, 2021, 5:53 PM

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mental meadow and "webwinkel"

web store

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makes perfect sense

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 5:54 PM

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I'm not saying it doesn't make sense

worn ember Oct 18, 2021, 5:54 PM

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but do you mean knuffel or knuffel? thonk

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:54 PM

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Honestly I was expecting 64gb ram max?

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 5:54 PM

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I'm just laughing my ass off when reading it

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:54 PM

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I thought the M1M was 64GB max

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M1P is 32GB

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:54 PM

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Yeah same

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It has more vram than ram

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:55 PM

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It just has RAM

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:55 PM

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Oh you can get 64gb ram

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:55 PM

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There is no dedicated VRAM

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:55 PM

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magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:55 PM

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I can't even get the page to load

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:56 PM

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I’m using the app

warm anchor Oct 18, 2021, 5:56 PM

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Too many people buying wow

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:56 PM

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The Mac section of the website doesn't have the new models and the buttons on the home page don't load

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:56 PM

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7k for such a powerful laptop seems fair

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 5:56 PM

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people that preorder laptops are worse than people preordering games

cosmic raft Oct 18, 2021, 5:56 PM

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how so?

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I preorder games sometimes :p

wispy blade Oct 18, 2021, 5:57 PM

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imagine it exploding like note 7

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Oh I guess it is a preorder, Oct 26th

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:57 PM

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wispy blade imagine it exploding like note 7

Imagine you exploding

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I can only wish

wispy blade Oct 18, 2021, 5:57 PM

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that's kinda hot ngl

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Considering it usually takes about that long for an order of a customized laptop anyway that's not much of a preorder

worn ember Oct 18, 2021, 5:57 PM

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imagine not exploding twice a day

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Well, other than not having reviews yet

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 5:57 PM

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I was expecting apple to go softer

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Like M1X that’s it

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Slight improvements

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But damn

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:58 PM

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I think I'd stick with the M1P and 1TB SSD

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So with 32GB of RAM that's $2,899 for me

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I'm going to at least wait for reviews and such though 😛

worn ember Oct 18, 2021, 5:59 PM

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so i had to use a mac today and my wireless mouse wouldn't connect so i legit couldnt log in lmao

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 5:59 PM

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That's $1000 more than my XPS though

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Which I got over a MBP because of the touch bar, butterfly keys, and because the MBP was $1000 more 😛

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 6:00 PM

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Hey

cosmic raft Oct 18, 2021, 6:00 PM

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I like the touch bar

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 6:00 PM

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We got new ports!

cosmic raft Oct 18, 2021, 6:00 PM

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it's useful

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 6:00 PM

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That’s the best thing

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Touch Bar was cool tbh

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 6:00 PM

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I've kind of hated it since though. Like, I'm comfortable in Ubuntu and it works well enough but it doesn't work right and I can't fix it

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 6:00 PM

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Should’ve kept it

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At least on the 14”

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 6:01 PM

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And Windows for development is just a nightmare of nope, fuck that

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And also didn't really work right

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 6:02 PM

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fucking hell apple

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 6:02 PM

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The main problem with both of them is fractional scaling, the screen is 1080p (well, 16:10 so 1200p) which is too small but 2x scaling would be 600p which is too big

cosmic raft Oct 18, 2021, 6:02 PM

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my favourite:

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https://i.imgur.com/LmD1Fz3.png

Imgur

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 6:02 PM

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dell xps 13 is perfect in terms of resolution

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because it does not need scaling

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100% is the perfect size

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 6:02 PM

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damn

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that profit

worn ember Oct 18, 2021, 6:03 PM

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what the fuck

void void Oct 18, 2021, 6:03 PM

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cosmic raft I like the touch bar

^^^

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 6:03 PM

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X11 fractional scaling is a joke and mostly only a Qt thing, Wayland fractional scaling works just like macOS does (render at 2x, scale down to framebuffer) but XWayland doesn't and apparently can't support that so all X apps just look blurry

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If you're ok with 1200p on a 13" screen with no scaling or font size changes you must have better than 20/20 vision

austere ivy Oct 18, 2021, 6:04 PM

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cosmic raft https://i.imgur.com/LmD1Fz3.png

8tb of storage is a nice option but whew that’s definitely a price :p

wispy blade Oct 18, 2021, 6:06 PM

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god, laptops just frustrate me

worn ember Oct 18, 2021, 6:06 PM

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they go for like half that price in retail

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 6:06 PM

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iirc with xrandr you can do the same thing wayland does if you jump through enough hoops but I think apps then don't have a way to know the actual screen resolution

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So full screen stuff would still render at 2x then be downscaled

worn ember Oct 18, 2021, 6:07 PM

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wispy blade god, laptops just frustrate me

just take your desktop everywhere like a real chad

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 6:08 PM

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I like to carry around my three screens as well

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 6:10 PM

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I want to say macOS scaling is actually more advanced than just rendering at 2x (or whatever whole integer is closest, rounding up) then scaling down, I'm pretty sure they said they capture standard text rendering calls and draw them in last properly scaled

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But that might have just been them overselling the fact that everything other than images is still drawn by the OS so doesn't look blurry when you scale it up

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 6:11 PM

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FUCK i just forgot now everyone will copy apple's notch in laptops

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 6:12 PM

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Oh yeah, my XPS doesn't have a notch, has a smaller top bezel, and has Face ID (well, Windows Hello)

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 6:12 PM

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Lol yes

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I can’t wait for people to cry over the notch on a MacBook

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 6:12 PM

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I used the Hello thing like twice

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I was going to set it up in Linux but the program for it is kind of a hackjob someone made that isn't in a distro or maintained by normal DE or plumbing folks so I was worried I was going to lock myself out of my laptop or have it unlock from random inputs

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lol we got a fire warning today

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Unseasonably warm (77F) but also 20% humidity and windy

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 6:49 PM

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TIL "For players in South Korea, you must be 19 years of age or older to purchase and play the Java edition of Minecraft."

void void Oct 18, 2021, 7:01 PM

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but 18 year old can play in squid game 🤔 :thinkig:

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curious

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 7:02 PM

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It's an unrated game

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Well, has unrated play

tropic flame Oct 18, 2021, 7:02 PM

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haha yes minecraft +18 servers brrrrr

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roblox marriage type beat

waxen panther Oct 18, 2021, 7:03 PM

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twin lagoon FUCK i just forgot now everyone will copy apple's notch in laptops

its so fucking bad pepela

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glad i didn't wait for these now

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 7:03 PM

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The notch is good

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Y’all are just notch haters

waxen panther Oct 18, 2021, 7:03 PM

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the troll is saying troll-y things

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 7:03 PM

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It just games some getting used to

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 7:04 PM

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Just, why...

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Like, why...

waxen panther Oct 18, 2021, 7:04 PM

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💀

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 7:04 PM

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Why does everything need a fucking notch which takes away screen estate

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 7:04 PM

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waxen panther <:DD:485729794089156628> the troll is saying troll-y things <:DD:485729794089156...

Not trolling

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It’s literally not a bad thing

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 7:04 PM

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waxen panther Oct 18, 2021, 7:04 PM

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this dap person gettin annoying man

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 7:04 PM

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More screen and the notch only takes up menu bar space

waxen panther Oct 18, 2021, 7:04 PM

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@heady spear you were right

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 7:04 PM

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waxen panther its so fucking bad <:pepela:798950800894066708>

i'll wait for the air 2022

waxen panther Oct 18, 2021, 7:04 PM

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""only menu bar space""

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have you seen how big the notch is ? ?

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM

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It’s only menu bar

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM

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yes and the menu bar is twice as big now

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congratulations

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM

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it's the notification bar area too

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM

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They made the menu bar slightly thicker for a reason

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It’s not twice as big

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Not that much

waxen panther Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM

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lmfao they made the menu bar bigger OMEGALUL

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apple is brain damaged

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM

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I have iStat menus, that means that my menus are gonna be cut off/go nto what will probs be a dead zone

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM

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I think it’ll just go into the other side

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM

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I already gotta try and figure out how to cut down on the madness I have

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which would look even more stupid vs just the number of things I've got there

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 7:06 PM

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Well I guess apple was not expecting such a monstrosity

waxen panther Oct 18, 2021, 7:06 PM

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💀

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 7:07 PM

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Might have to get that app that puts all of those things into a folder

toxic bone Oct 18, 2021, 7:09 PM

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apple 💀

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 7:23 PM

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https://twitter.com/jckarter/status/1450165815563612161

Joe Groff (@jckarter)

Loving the squared edges, tiny bezels, assortment of ports, and dark keyboard on the new MacBook Pro design

Likes

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marble lark Oct 18, 2021, 7:26 PM

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limber knot TIL "For players in South Korea, you must be 19 years of age or older to purchas...

Wtf lmao

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Minecraft too violent

wise drift Oct 18, 2021, 7:26 PM

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https://www.tomorrowtides.com/big-chunguz-eats-chicken.html

Unbelievable Breaking News

You will never believe this unbelievable breaking news.

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 7:26 PM

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that link looks bad

wise drift Oct 18, 2021, 7:27 PM

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nah

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check it out

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 7:27 PM

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pretty sure that's the rick roll one

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 7:27 PM

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I'd rather not

wise drift Oct 18, 2021, 7:27 PM

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nope

wise drift Oct 18, 2021, 7:27 PM

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twin lagoon pretty sure that's the rick roll one

it isnt

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 7:27 PM

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it's the rick roll one

marble lark Oct 18, 2021, 7:27 PM

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5 bucks it is

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 7:27 PM

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KEKWHYPER

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 7:27 PM

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If it's a screamer there is a 90% of me fainting so I'm not taking the risk

wise drift Oct 18, 2021, 7:28 PM

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marble lark 5 bucks it is

what if it isnt

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 7:28 PM

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that reminds me that i haven't seen screamers in a long fucking time

wise drift Oct 18, 2021, 7:28 PM

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got paypal?

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 7:28 PM

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because they are fucking stupid

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 7:28 PM

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they're great

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brings you back to 2010

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 7:28 PM

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and dangerous af for people with health issues

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 7:28 PM

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well yes that's a less great part

marble lark Oct 18, 2021, 7:28 PM

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mental meadow If it's a screamer there is a 90% of me fainting so I'm not taking the risk

Can't be that bad

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 7:29 PM

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Aurora prefers howlers

waxen panther Oct 18, 2021, 7:29 PM

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best aaouwauowa and michael

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koriBroccoli

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 7:29 PM

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brocco uwu

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 7:29 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBziSx7RtqY

YouTube

Wizarding World

Ron receives a Howler | Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets

Ron Weasley receives a Howler from his mother. Is there anything more terrifying?

SUBSCRIBE ➡️ http://wizarding.world/6008yCNUA

Welcome to the official Wizarding World YouTube channel, home of Harry Potter and Fantastic Beasts.

WIZARDING WORLD TM and © Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc. WIZARDING WORLD Publishing Rights © J.K. Rowling WIZARDIN...

▶ Play video

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 7:29 PM

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waxen panther <:koriBroccoli:899646926239174696>

koriBroccoli

marble lark Oct 18, 2021, 7:29 PM

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mental meadow and dangerous af for people with health issues

Anything that can jumpscare is dangerous pretty much yeah

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 7:29 PM

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koriAyaya

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 7:29 PM

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marble lark Can't be that bad

that was not a joke from me lol, my body is pretty shitty lol

marble lark Oct 18, 2021, 7:30 PM

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Oh

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Soz

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 7:30 PM

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tries to find something aurora doesn't suck at

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Er... Living... er, no... breathing? maybe... er....

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 7:30 PM

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now that you mention it

marble lark Oct 18, 2021, 7:31 PM

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"aaouwauowa" lmao

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brocc has a stroke confirmed

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 7:31 PM

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https://github.com/aurorasmiles/aurorasmiles/blob/master/how_to_write_my_name.md

GitHub

aurorasmiles/how_to_write_my_name.md at master · aurorasmiles/auror...

Contribute to aurorasmiles/aurorasmiles development by creating an account on GitHub.

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 7:31 PM

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sees the list

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 7:31 PM

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that repo has the hacktoberfest tag so brocc you better PR that

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 7:31 PM

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tries to be good

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 7:32 PM

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""""tries""""

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sure

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 7:32 PM

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So

marble lark Oct 18, 2021, 7:32 PM

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Madlad has a repo solely dedicated to the spelling of her own name

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And said repo has 2 forks

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 7:32 PM

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Is that list for the way you've seen people spell your name, or, can we add the names that we call you behind your back?

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||jkily<3||

marble lark Oct 18, 2021, 7:32 PM

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The people who fork that repo be like

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Reality can be whatever I want it to be

waxen panther Oct 18, 2021, 7:33 PM

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mental meadow that repo has the hacktoberfest tag so brocc you better PR that

pepela

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 7:33 PM

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golden gust Is that list for the way you've seen people spell your name, or, can we add the ...

I mean if you want to add "cutie" or "precious" sure

marble lark Oct 18, 2021, 7:35 PM

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mental meadow I mean if you want to add "cutie" or "precious" sure

Someone should PR "The cute anime girl you've been dreaming of"

void void Oct 18, 2021, 7:41 PM

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lmaoo

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arizona tea is unnecessarily good

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why this shit gotta be so tasty 😔

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 7:53 PM

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oh god, I used to have their green tea almost daily once I found out that our college sold it

void void Oct 18, 2021, 7:53 PM

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its too sweet imo but this stuffs pretty nice

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im usually an unsweet tea person but oh well

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 7:54 PM

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Yea, it's just, just a notch too sweet but like, damn does it go down the cake hole

void void Oct 18, 2021, 7:54 PM

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its good stuff lol

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42g sugar per bottle tho 👺

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 7:55 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hNiofsR8XU

YouTube

Mostly Simpsons

The Simpsons - Sugar, Honey Honey

Please like and subscribe :D

▶ Play video

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(I really wanna pretend that the cassette player is Aurora, and not the best Aurora, our aurora)

void void Oct 18, 2021, 7:58 PM

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my brain is on autopilot

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typing "clear" into general like im in mf terminal

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 7:59 PM

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So

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what you're tryna tell me is that

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You have a brain?

void void Oct 18, 2021, 8:02 PM

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unfortunately yes

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sometimes

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Hey, how are you doing guys?

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im good hbu

frank otter Oct 18, 2021, 8:17 PM

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my brain is thinking of dumb stuff so fast it's not registering how dumb the stuff actually is

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which, now that I think about it, is in fact very dumb

void void Oct 18, 2021, 8:25 PM

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smart

ancient bolt Oct 18, 2021, 8:42 PM

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I need this new macbook so bad, but gotta be responsible with my money 😦

shrewd portal Oct 18, 2021, 8:43 PM

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ancient bolt I need this new macbook so bad, but gotta be responsible with my money 😦

oh man

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same

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idk if i should get the 14" or 16" though

potent fossil Oct 18, 2021, 8:44 PM

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i need a lot of things but i just thinned my wallet with a shitload of photography equipment that i impulse bought

ancient bolt Oct 18, 2021, 8:44 PM

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oh i like the 16" size

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gotta pay off credit cards for the foreseeable future

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god I want this so bad tho lol

shrewd portal Oct 18, 2021, 8:44 PM

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ikr

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i already have the m1 13" though

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and it's a beast

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so its not as worth of an upgrade for me but i still very much want it

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120hz

ancient bolt Oct 18, 2021, 8:46 PM

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yeah, and while the notch is funny, it really does provide more screen space since your top bar basically moves up into the bezel, so that's cool

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the extra ports are cool and magsafe is cool too

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it's like it's 10 years ago

shrewd portal Oct 18, 2021, 8:46 PM

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tbh i wish there were 4 ports

ancient bolt Oct 18, 2021, 8:47 PM

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I can go both ways

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having the ports built in is nice

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if they could have done 4 ports + the new ports and magsafe though, that would be ideal

shrewd portal Oct 18, 2021, 8:47 PM

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yeah

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 8:48 PM

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Okey, but, Den

ancient bolt Oct 18, 2021, 8:48 PM

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but then if people fully loaded up the thunderbolt ports they'd be mad that the HDMI port stopped working

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 8:48 PM

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ancient bolt Oct 18, 2021, 8:48 PM

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personally, everything I have is thunderbolt or USB-C so the additional ports don't help me that much other than flexibility

ancient bolt Oct 18, 2021, 8:48 PM

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golden gust

what are you doing to this poor machine

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 8:49 PM

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I erm, have a problem

shrewd portal Oct 18, 2021, 8:49 PM

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ancient bolt personally, everything I have is thunderbolt or USB-C so the additional ports do...

^^

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yeah

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idk

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i don't really know if hdmi even makes sense these days

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like, even in meeting rooms hdmi is not really used anymore

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it's either DP or TB

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which i guess are both DP but w/e

ancient bolt Oct 18, 2021, 8:50 PM

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they're all the same protocol

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 8:50 PM

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The notch is quite a smart design

ancient bolt Oct 18, 2021, 8:50 PM

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HDMI has the benefit of being able to deliver sound too

shrewd portal Oct 18, 2021, 8:50 PM

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can't DP do sound too though?

plucky sparrow Oct 18, 2021, 8:50 PM

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You’re getting an almost bezel-less screen for the price of a thicker menu bar

ancient bolt Oct 18, 2021, 8:50 PM

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not that I'm aware of, but maybe

shrewd portal Oct 18, 2021, 8:50 PM

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my monitors are DP and can transfer sound, not sure about the encapsulated-in-thunderbolt mode but i don't really think it should be different

ancient bolt Oct 18, 2021, 8:51 PM

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yeah the space that used to be pure bezel can now be used for status bar - and the screen is wide enough there's actually room to put stuff there

upbeat falconBOT Oct 18, 2021, 8:51 PM

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Does DisplayPort Carry Audio?

https://www.cablematters.com/blog/DisplayPort/does-displayport-carry-audio

Aug 17, 2020 ... Does DisplayPort carry audio? It can do that and more. DisplayPort can carry a video source, audio, and some forms of data too. It can do it ...

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 8:51 PM

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I mean, hdmi is still used heavily in like, consumer land, especially given that you'd need special cables otherwise iirc

shrewd portal Oct 18, 2021, 8:51 PM

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yeah thats true

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the other thing about the new 1m s is like

ancient bolt Oct 18, 2021, 8:51 PM

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HDMI is by far still the most common display port

shrewd portal Oct 18, 2021, 8:51 PM

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the memory bandwidth

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holy SHIT

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 8:51 PM

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TB4 is already DP though

faint crystal Oct 18, 2021, 8:51 PM

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yea displayport is never included in the box

shrewd portal Oct 18, 2021, 8:51 PM

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400GB/s in a LAPTOP COMPONENT

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 8:51 PM

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Like, hook up a USB-C->DP pin adapter and call it a day

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USB-C has a DP Alt-mode and TB4 requires that be implemented, iirc

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In any case MBPs support it

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Hell some monitors just take a USB-C input now since that's how laptops are giving you DP these days

shrewd portal Oct 18, 2021, 8:53 PM

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yeah I sort of want a Full Fat (TM) dp port sometimes though

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im waiting for the m1 max mac mini though

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i think im gonna get rid of my desktop

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 8:53 PM

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If you could only have one of them though HDMI is the obvious choice

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That's going to be useful way more often than a normal DP

ancient bolt Oct 18, 2021, 8:55 PM

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seems like all you really get with the M1 Max over the M1 Pro is GPU, so for my uses at lest the M1 Pro is cheaper

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 8:56 PM

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So I've got a coworker trying to show a browser widget to allow an oauth login, he is trying to count the number of URLs the widget tries to load and/or hard code the exact URLs it's supposed to visit in order so he can tell if it worked

ancient bolt Oct 18, 2021, 8:56 PM

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oh this page I don't understand the difference between the left and middle columns https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/16-inch

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 8:56 PM

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I kept trying to explain to him that the oauth flow is a black box, we have no idea what URLs the provider is going to send us to

shrewd portal Oct 18, 2021, 8:57 PM

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I'm also kind of worried about the amount of power the CPU draws

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like, on a 50W chip my intel mbp was a trashfire and sucked

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 8:57 PM

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I wonder if that's a typo, on the 14" one the left model has less CPU and GPU cores

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Probably the ones that failed validation

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I guess maybe on the 16" they have the same core counts but different clocks, would be a really terrible display if that's the case

mental meadow Oct 18, 2021, 8:58 PM

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Ugh

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 8:59 PM

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They're trying to do that stupid thing they do on their phones where you don't know what the clocks are, it's just models

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But it seems like the clocks might be important here 😛

ancient bolt Oct 18, 2021, 8:59 PM

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nope, the left is just the absolute bottom configuration

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middle is the left with 1tb of storage

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go into the left and select 1tb and the price is identical lol

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 8:59 PM

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huh

ancient bolt Oct 18, 2021, 9:01 PM

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will wait for reviews to see if M1 Pro and M1 Max really do have the same CPU and the only difference is GPU, or if the Max is clocked higher or something

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but if they really are the same, baseline M1 Pro with 32g of memory would be all I want, and that's a little more reasonably priced

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really sad that I have been waiting for this day for so long, but have too much credit card debt 😦

worn ember Oct 18, 2021, 9:17 PM

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me after paying college

peak dirge Oct 18, 2021, 9:20 PM

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ancient bolt will wait for reviews to see if M1 Pro and M1 Max really do have the same CPU an...

The M1 Max apparently has higher memory bandwidth (possibly resulting in higher performance depending on the workload) and it's the only option with 64GB of memory.

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 9:30 PM

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Pretty sure that higher bandwidth is going to be only if you have 64GB

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I doubt they're making SoCs with the same number of RAM chips but half the capacity

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They're probably just putting in half the chips

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I just realized these are the first devices that use the new USB PD spec

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It was only like a month or two ago we were making fun of USB-C being versioned when they upgraded it from 100W max to 240W max

worn ember Oct 18, 2021, 9:43 PM

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does anyone still keep up with USB versions? i sure as hell don't

true canyon Oct 18, 2021, 9:45 PM

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and that's why we don't buy your custom-made USB cables, DED

foggy veldt Oct 18, 2021, 9:51 PM

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worn ember does anyone still keep up with USB versions? i sure as hell don't

My case has a usb c header but my motherboard doesn’t

worn ember Oct 18, 2021, 9:51 PM

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true canyon and that's why we don't buy your custom-made USB cables, DED

they'd just be a fire hazard anyway kek

worn ember Oct 18, 2021, 9:51 PM

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foggy veldt My case has a usb c header but my motherboard doesn’t

gottem

true canyon Oct 18, 2021, 9:52 PM

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You're a fire hazard

worn ember Oct 18, 2021, 9:52 PM

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cant help i'm so hot

hidden harness Oct 18, 2021, 9:54 PM

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Finally got it all working!

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PaperMC and waterfall in podman in fedora coreos in qemu

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It's one file and it creates a vm and installs everything

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 9:56 PM

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but why

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podman and coreos i can understand but the vm

proud lance Oct 18, 2021, 9:59 PM

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I missed the Macbook convo, for those who have the M1 one do you like it? Anything you wish it had?

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I am considering getting the new 14 inch one

shrewd portal Oct 18, 2021, 10:02 PM

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proud lance I missed the Macbook convo, for those who have the M1 one do you like it? Anythi...

5G

proud lance Oct 18, 2021, 10:06 PM

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well I dont think most laptops have 5G, so thats not really a loss tbh

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but would be cool if you are traveling

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:07 PM

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why would you get a business laptop without mobile data?

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(also the Thinkpad X13 has 5G ;D)

proud lance Oct 18, 2021, 10:07 PM

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dont need it

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anywhere I go has Wifi

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:07 PM

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it's notabout need, it's about a thing that you can't just remove from a Thinkpad. Mobile modems have existed for ages in Thinkpads now ;D

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(and why would you get anything that isn't a Thinkpad?)

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runs

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they are actually rolling out 5G to every model, nice https://www.windowscentral.com/lenovo-2021-thinkpad-announcements

Windows Central

Lenovo just announced a load of new ThinkPad laptops

Lenovo just announced updates to its ThinkPad lineup of laptops. The new devices range from the more affordable L series to the powerful P series of mobile workstations.

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I really wish I could justify buying a laptop lol

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 10:10 PM

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I just don't think that mobile broadband on a laptop is that much of a need for most, especially when many already carry a device in their pocket in which unlimited data is potentially cheaper than getting an external mobile broadband plan

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:10 PM

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yeah but wifi tethering is against some contracts!

proud lance Oct 18, 2021, 10:10 PM

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yeah you can hotspot it

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:10 PM

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(as if anyone cares about that)

proud lance Oct 18, 2021, 10:10 PM

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forgot about that

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 10:10 PM

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Yea, but cases where wifi tethering is banned, so is putting the sim card into a tablet

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:11 PM

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I mean nowdays I personally am not really anywhere that isn't at home so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 10:11 PM

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Yea, I mean, that's part of it these days, tbqh

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:12 PM

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my laptop is an old T430 which works for watching streams in the garden

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 10:12 PM

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how often are you away from somewhere which doesn't have public wifi in which you're gonna laze about?

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:12 PM

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and doing some light gaming/coding

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 10:12 PM

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especially given that most screens these days are fucking horrible for being outside anyways

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:12 PM

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well... about that. Germany is really dumb about public wifi

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it only got legalized a couple years ago so most venues still don't offer it

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like half of our trains still don't have wifi lol

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 10:14 PM

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at least over here idk anywhere I could go which isn't a park in which I would have access to public wifi if needed

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:15 PM

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don't get me wrong, it's not a problem in big cities like Berlin but I don't exactly live in the most progressive state 😅

wet smelt Oct 18, 2021, 10:17 PM

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I honestly barely use public wifi. Hotspotting from my phone is way more convenient. And unless you watch videos, you barely use any data. Have you considered one of those StreamOn flatrates? 👀

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:18 PM

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I have 200MB for free each month and that has been enough for years now lol

wet smelt Oct 18, 2021, 10:19 PM

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Netzclub?

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:20 PM

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yeah

void void Oct 18, 2021, 10:20 PM

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5g hotspots are insanely fast for mobile

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:20 PM

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(and yes, I'm aware about them being able to monetize my geolocation data)

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there isn't much to monetize though lmao

wet smelt Oct 18, 2021, 10:20 PM

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Haha nice, I just ordered one of their sims for my second phone last Friday 😄

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 10:21 PM

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dealer phone?

wet smelt Oct 18, 2021, 10:21 PM

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😳

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🤫

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:21 PM

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who doesn't have two phones? one with stock android for shitty banking apps and one rooted/linux/whatever one to tinker with ;D

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currently running SailfishOS and it has been pretty nice (besides there not being good solutions for shitty platforms like youtube)

void void Oct 18, 2021, 10:23 PM

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i got one phone for each app 🤔

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 10:24 PM

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Yea, I mean, I got the joys of deciding what I wanna do for my phone in the next year or so

wet smelt Oct 18, 2021, 10:24 PM

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I keep spending LineageOS onto my mom and dads old phones and then put them in a drawer and never ever touch them again 😐

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:24 PM

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do the environment a favour and get a used one

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runs

void void Oct 18, 2021, 10:24 PM

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i just got the oneplus 9 and its dope

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 10:24 PM

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Like, I'm still in a headspin over switching to iPhone or stucking with android

void void Oct 18, 2021, 10:24 PM

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dont switch

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not worth it

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imo

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:25 PM

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US carriers are using VoLTE to lock us back down

wet smelt Oct 18, 2021, 10:25 PM

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Go iPhone if you wanna go full Apple. Macbook. AppleTV. Apple Music. Apple Watch. Apple Everything. Otherwise stick with Android tbh.

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:25 PM

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yeah... if I learned anything from trying to daily drive SailfishOS: don't switch the UI/UX and ecosystem lol

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 10:25 PM

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I mean, this is my first phone which I bought new, outside of like an LG cookie and an E61 I got years ago for birthdays, etc

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:25 PM

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Verizon already doesn't allow you on their old 3G network iirc and only allows phones they sell to use VoLTE

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:25 PM

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muscle memory is a bitch when changing OS

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 10:25 PM

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Like, at least for me, I don't use my phone for much bar YT, spotify and the odd bit of web browsing, so I'm kinda eering towards apple for the sake of just having a device which is supported for longer than 2 years

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:26 PM

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AT&T is turning off their 3G nework in February iirc and does the same shit with VoLTE

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Although I think I was able to force enable it on my grandma's Xiaomi phone, we'll see

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:26 PM

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I mean, Samsung phones still get security updates e.g. my android one is an S8 which still works great

wet smelt Oct 18, 2021, 10:26 PM

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Fair enough. Apple got solid devices if you want it to "just work" and want a nice user experience.

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 10:27 PM

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I kinda wanna avoid samsung for various reasons

void void Oct 18, 2021, 10:27 PM

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I switched from at&t because of the whole supporting OAN thing plus they were expensive for not the best service

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got a oneplus9 for free

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:27 PM

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Samsung phones are... weird

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 10:27 PM

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had a few samsungs in the past and they always ended up dying for stupid reasons

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Like, my S4

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The only way to get wifi on it at one point was to literally take off the back casing

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:27 PM

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They're like Amazon shit, its their own little corner of the world and everything works differently

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:27 PM

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I personally would advocate for Sony because they let you easily unlock shit and flash whatever you want ¯_(ツ)_/¯

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:28 PM

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If I was going to use a stock Samsung phone I'd probably rather get an iPhone

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:28 PM

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and they are the only ones commited to a sub 5 inch line of compact phones lol

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at least the stock system on the s8 is pretty nice tbh ¯_(ツ)_/¯

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 10:28 PM

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I have an OP 5T now and it's just, am at the point where I kinda wanna LOS it but I kinda can't be assed reinstalling everything and such

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:28 PM

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was actually a bit surprised because samsung used to be pretty shit

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you can probably dirty flash 👀

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 10:29 PM

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can't

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Gotta unlock the bootloader which will wipe the device

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:29 PM

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oof

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that's what I get for being used to sane companies I guess

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:30 PM

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Eh? That's a sane thing to do

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:30 PM

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did you check if there isn't a vulnerability that lets you unlock without the vendor way?

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:31 PM

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It's a security thing so people can't flash random shit to the device to try to access your data

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:31 PM

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the sane way would be to have the option if your phone is unlocked

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:31 PM

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If he unlocked it when he first got it this wouldn't be a problem 😛

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:31 PM

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also seeing as most people probably don't even encrypt the phone getting to the data isn't exactly difficult anyways lmao

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(but I believe more and more models ship encrypted nowadays)

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:32 PM

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It's encrypted by default, that's a part of why it wipes it

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I think that's actually the technical reason why it wipes it

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:33 PM

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well it wouldn't be too difficult to disable the encryption? thonk

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 10:33 PM

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yea, android is basically encrypted by default these days afaik

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:34 PM

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Disabling the encryption requires wiping it 😛

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:34 PM

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I mean if you have the password just let the user do that lol

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that's just stupid by design then though

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:34 PM

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It's the kind of encryption like business laptops have where even if there is no login requirement when you power the device on (why!!!) you still can't just take the drive and slap it in another device to read the data

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:35 PM

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if you can decrypt to use the device then there shouldn't be anything stopping you from decrypting it to flash a custom os

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:35 PM

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It might be possible to unlock the bootloader without wiping the enclave but that gets back to being a security problem

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 10:35 PM

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issue is getting the access to do stuff like that without having the bootloader unlocked

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pretty sure the reason I didn't unlock it cos I wanted to ensure that my banking shit would work

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especially as natwest where kinda tiptoing on being assholes for it at one point

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:36 PM

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well that's my point: it shouldn't be an issue. vendors just want to inconvenience you so that you keep their os

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imagine if they would do that on a PC... oh wait, Windows 11 is doing exactly that

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:37 PM

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Vendors want to stop the FBI from getting in to your phone without complicating the fastboot environment with PIN management

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Actually I think Google might require it work this way...

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:37 PM

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well fuck them then lol

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I guess that goes back to why I'm running SailfishOS thonk

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although it's even less open source than some android roms -.-

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:38 PM

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Even if they don't fastboot needs to always work and this is a use case they don't really care about

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Like, the user experience here doesn't matter, you're about to flash a half working OS to your phone so clearly you're okay with pain

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:39 PM

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it would be better working if they allowed the user more freedom though thinksmart

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:40 PM

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Err, no?

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This part has nothing to do with how well the OS you flash to it works

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Oh, I just remembered the name of the business laptop thing: BitLocker

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:41 PM

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bitlocker can be disabled extremely easy though, all you need is access to the microsoft account lol

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:41 PM

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It unlocks the drive before you get to a login page but the encryption key is stored in TPM

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And not all versions can unlock with the microsoft account, some need you to have written down the recovery key

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:42 PM

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I guess

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but the point still is: you can completely decrypt the drive so that you can access it outside of the PC being booted ab and then install whatever you want

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which for some reason isn't possible on phones?

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*up

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nice German-phonetic brain fart there

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:43 PM

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UEFI upgrades can break bitlocker, not much difference

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Break it as in require the recovery key (which is what logging in with microsoft account does, they store the key)

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:44 PM

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well yeah but there is a solution there which phones don't seem to have?

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:44 PM

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That solution would be going somewhere in settings and turning the encryption off before you switch to fastboot, I guess?

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:44 PM

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yes

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:44 PM

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I'm more sure that Google bans that 😛

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:44 PM

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that's what I would like to see which apparently is too much to ask

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heck it could even be a menu in the recovery or something (that's how you can do it in windows, don't ask my how I know -.-)

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:48 PM

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The recovery partition is unable to access the DE-protected storage on the userdata partition. Devices implementing FBE are strongly recommended to support OTA using A/B system updates. As the OTA can be applied during normal operation there is no need for recovery to access data on the encrypted drive.

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DE = Device Encrypted

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FBE = File-based Encryption, required as of Android 10

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Before that they just used dm-crypt 😄

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It looks like if they put Gatekeeper (and all the possible login mechanisms) into the recovery they could probably unlock it still though

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They just don't by policy, afaik

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:53 PM

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I see

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:54 PM

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Although some devices as of Android 11 (probably just the Pixel 4, 5, and 6?) actually keep the encryption keys out of main memory at all times so are even more limited in when/how you can decrypt the drive

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The rest just have ME/PSP/TrustZone manage the secrets

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Apparently Pixels DMA the encrypted data in to a coprocessor that has dedicated memory or something?

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I have no idea how this shit works at this level 😛

limber knotBOT Oct 18, 2021, 10:56 PM

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yeah me neither, I just believe that it should be a solvable problem lol

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:57 PM

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Yeah, it looks like it could be if they basically put the unlock screen and the Gatekeeper system behind it in to the recovery

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Which iirc my Essential phone actually did?

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Or at least the TWRP for it did

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I remember doing pattern unlock in TWRP before I could flash

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 10:58 PM

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yea, I remember twrp supporting the security stuff at some point

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you could throw you pin in and it would mount the user partition so you could go find your actual image to flash

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 10:59 PM

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I think that was before either Android 7 standardized full disk encryption or before Android 10 standardized the file-based encryption with device-level and user-level keys

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One of those two changes broke that setup

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btw with an unlocked bootloader and/or the option toggled in developer settings to let you access fastboot I'm pretty sure you can delete the partition that keeps a phone locked with a particular google account

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afaik that anti-theft feature that makes you login with the original account if wipe the phone from recovery or too many password attempts is just a partition that stores the email

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Not that it matters, if someone steals your phone whether they can use it or not doesn't help you 😛

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:21 PM

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is it possible that using a mobile hotspot would route your traffic to another state?
and multiple people all around the united states with the same provider connecting to hotspot would have their traffic routed through the same ip block?

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cg nat?

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how can that be detected

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 11:22 PM

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google it

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sanely? er...

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:22 PM

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using proxycheck.io on it returned a residential ip

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not a hotspot

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ik its not 100% accurate but

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 11:22 PM

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even home broadband providers are using cgnat

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if you mean, "can I a random person check if some IP is a cgnat", you can't, basically

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:22 PM

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On my phone things think I'm somewhere in Illinois iirc

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:23 PM

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yeah

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thatsd happening

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 11:23 PM

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best you can do is google the isp and see if there is somebody complaining about it

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:23 PM

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people in pencylbania being in texas from a geoip perspective

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google isp?

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 11:23 PM

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well, boils down to where the POP is

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and geoip's accuracy can be shaky af

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:23 PM

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heres something else weird

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using maxmind ASN

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all these ips have different isps?

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 11:24 PM

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I know these days theres more info being fed into it, so, it kinda shows up as fairly accurate these days

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:24 PM

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VPNs these days sell "doesn't show up as a VPN" as a feature

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So good luck there

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:24 PM

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some are UUNET some are ATT-INTERNET4

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some are COMCAST-7922

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:24 PM

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UUNET is Verizon, dunno why you'd see Verizon, AT&T, and Comcast when you're tethering

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:25 PM

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these ips aren't showing as vpn or anything

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just residential

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 11:25 PM

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magic river VPNs these days sell "doesn't show up as a VPN" as a feature

they can still be detected most of the time though

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:25 PM

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ive got this guy who uses a hotspot and everytime he logs in he is at a different side of the country

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^^^

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 11:26 PM

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and yeah don't rely on geoip

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:26 PM

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most vpns are just some company renting OVH servers

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 11:26 PM

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no reputable vpn does that

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:26 PM

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No, most VPNs are buying access at residential ISPs

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:26 PM

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🤔

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ehh i doubt that

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 11:26 PM

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magic river No, most VPNs are buying access at residential ISPs

residential vpns can still be detected most of the time

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:26 PM

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oh

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:27 PM

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That space is mostly for things like Netflix to have a local (to the ISP) cache but if you stick a VPN service in there it has residential ISP IP addresses so...

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 11:27 PM

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Yea, but somewhat less of a major red flag for it using an ISPs network vs somewhere like OVHs which is probs already blacklisted by most places

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:28 PM

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okay

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people also can use hotspots to ban evade very effectively

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am i outta luck there?

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 11:29 PM

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pretty much, yea

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 11:29 PM

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got an example IP?

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:29 PM

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sure

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:29 PM

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IP bans are basically a joke anyway

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 11:29 PM

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ip bans are a joke but blocking vpns / proxies from joining is less of a joke

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:29 PM

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there is one big spot in el paso

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 11:30 PM

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I was with one ISP and my IP changed every few dozen hours

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(I mean, each time the router rebooted almost, which, like, yea)

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:30 PM

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CGNAT ruins them on accident for IPv4 and on IPv6 you'd have to figure out if a user has a /128, /96, /64, /48, or /32 so you know how many billions of IPs you need to ban

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:30 PM

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gimme a min to scrape these

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:31 PM

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The only way to detect VPNs is blacklists, basically

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 11:31 PM

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ip reputation services to the rescue

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:32 PM

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Which then you have to hope the person who figured out a particular IP was a VPN knew what they were doing

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From that IP to you there is nothing to make it look like a VPN, you have to gather data on a large number of IP<->user pairs then look for IPs that have a lot of users

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That could just mean it's a coffee shop or something but you're probably fine banning those too 😛

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:35 PM

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📎 message.txt

upbeat falconBOT Oct 18, 2021, 11:35 PM

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void void

message.txt by @atomic horizon: https://paste.gg/139e0bd044a449d08c8c300b8e7317a8

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 11:36 PM

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ok yeah those are pretty rough

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PepeLa

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quite a few get through getipintel and that's impressive considering the fact that's usually the go-to for residential ip finding

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:37 PM

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If those are residential IPs I would guess either the geoip is wrong or someone is telling their VPN to connect to Texas and keeps cycling it to get a new IP

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:37 PM

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this is the player in question

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that has their ip change all the time

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📎 message.txt

upbeat falconBOT Oct 18, 2021, 11:37 PM

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void void

message.txt by @atomic horizon: https://paste.gg/a95e60b7484c4b24a2d36c24acd82698

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:37 PM

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literally day by day 3k miles

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:37 PM

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Just ban their UUID 😛

golden gust Oct 18, 2021, 11:37 PM

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ATT-MOBILITY is the mobile branch

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:38 PM

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minecraft needs more fingerprinting techniques 😢

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:38 PM

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Pretty sure VPN IPs can come from ATT-MOBILITY too

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:38 PM

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there is a really shitty "fingerprint" you can do

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its pretty bad tho just client settings + mouse sensitivity + client brand

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which half of the time is default settings so useless

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:40 PM

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Time to go email the getipintel dude so you can give him money to use his service

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:40 PM

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proxycheck.io is better

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:40 PM

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Then you can write a plugin to check every connection against it and pick an arbitrary number between 0 and 1 for the threshold for when you decide it's too likely to be a VPN and block it

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:40 PM

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❤️ proxycheck.io

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:41 PM

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You just said none of these were tripping on proxycheck.io

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:41 PM

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they respond to my emails fast their service is epic

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oh

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yeah buuuut

potent fossil Oct 18, 2021, 11:41 PM

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lol

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:41 PM

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hmm

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well i mean

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do these ips trip any antivpn?

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time to try the best one (ipqualityscore)

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😓

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:43 PM

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First one I tried on abstractapi says not a VPN

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:43 PM

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yeah same

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damn

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so its not a vpn buts abused

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proxy check .io my fav doens't even check that

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:43 PM

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Perhaps they just have a lot of RATs

twin lagoon Oct 18, 2021, 11:44 PM

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proxycheck.io + getipintel is my usual goto

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getipintel generally gets the residential ones but uh

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PepeLa

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:44 PM

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whats their ratelimit like?

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:44 PM

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This looks less like VPN and more like hacked Windows machines and routers and shit running proxies

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:44 PM

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these ips tho are mobile hotspot AT&T apparently

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:45 PM

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void void

these

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:45 PM

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My grandpa's laptop is probably one of those 😛

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:45 PM

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thats big brain tho

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using compromised computers as a proxy

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ez residential clean vpn

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:45 PM

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They have an "unlmited" mobile hotspot and he signs up for a lot of survey things and porn

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:45 PM

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gramps watches porn?

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i thought people lose their sex drive after like 70

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:46 PM

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Dude when we stayed over there when I was a kid he'd put that shit on after we were supposed to in bed even though we were sleeping on the floor in the living room 😛

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late night cinemax shit

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:47 PM

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whatt?/

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:47 PM

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He just watches it afaik

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:47 PM

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oh so like those channels

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the lewd tv channels

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:47 PM

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Well online he was getting in to more explicit stuff

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I don't help clean up his computer anymore 😛

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:48 PM

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216-2161844_frog-with-red-lips-meme-hd-png-download.png

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:48 PM

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I got him a chromebook, anything he does with the old windows laptop I set up for him before that he is on his own

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:48 PM

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chromebook is a good solution for old people

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:49 PM

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I've never seen him do any of the stuff 14 year olds do when the think they're secretly masturbating but everyone knows

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Like going in to his room to use his laptop or spending too much time in the bathroom

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So yeah, I think he just likes to watch 😛

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:50 PM

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well

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idk what to say

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:50 PM

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Anyway, that laptop is probably one of those ATT-MOBILITY IPs 😛

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:51 PM

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how does getipintel work

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it seems very abstract

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:52 PM

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Seems pretty easy to me

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It doesn't give you any extra details, just the probability the IP is "bad" in a 0-1 range

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:55 PM

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void void minecraft needs more fingerprinting techniques 😢

no

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they do

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:57 PM

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I'd release a mod to spoof all those fingerprinting things to the same value

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:58 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-cry-gif-20104177

Tenor

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web development is so cool

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:58 PM

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jesus fuck that is active

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:58 PM

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browser fingerprinting is just like minecraft fingerprinting but better

magic river Oct 18, 2021, 11:58 PM

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I'm probably hard to fingerprint there too

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Although if you aren't careful avoiding fingerprinting can be a fingerprint

void void Oct 18, 2021, 11:59 PM

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yah

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have you watched snowden

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movie

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looks kinda good

magic river Oct 19, 2021, 12:00 AM

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oof, my user agent got reset to the real one

void void Oct 19, 2021, 12:06 AM

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magic river oof, my user agent got reset to the real one

what os do you use?

magic river Oct 19, 2021, 12:06 AM

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Linux

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lol going through these videos where Linus does a home tech upgrade for various employees and he keeps finding shit they stole from the office

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LTT Linus, not Linux 😛

void void Oct 19, 2021, 12:10 AM

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yeah i watched those to

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gtg eat now cya

shrewd saddle Oct 19, 2021, 12:14 AM

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yes

toxic bone Oct 19, 2021, 12:19 AM

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super mario

magic river Oct 19, 2021, 12:58 AM

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TIL this abomination exists

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That plugs in to an M.2 slot on your mobo and turns it in to a PCIe slot

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I think it's meant for when you put a microATX board in a bigger case and want to get more slots

warm anchor Oct 19, 2021, 12:59 AM

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Can I then plug it into an M.2 extender?

magic river Oct 19, 2021, 1:00 AM

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The video I'm watching they use it to plug in a capture card to try to get it on its own IOMMU group so they can pass it through to a WIndows VM

warm anchor Oct 19, 2021, 1:11 AM

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damn that's some jacked up shit PepeLa

marble lark Oct 19, 2021, 1:55 AM

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Yo are temps these low normal

ancient bolt Oct 19, 2021, 1:55 AM

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god I want that macbook

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I'm just gonna be saying this every day for the next few months

swift root Oct 19, 2021, 1:57 AM

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me 3

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I'm gonna do it too. eventually.

void void Oct 19, 2021, 2:36 AM

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warm anchor Can I then plug it into an M.2 extender?

i-

potent fossil Oct 19, 2021, 2:56 AM

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marble lark Yo are temps these low normal

looks decent for air cooling, but there are a lot of variables. what's the ambient temp, and it looks like your pc is under at least some load so, seems ok

true canyon Oct 19, 2021, 3:07 AM

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glances at 31C CPU and 25C GPU

potent fossil Oct 19, 2021, 3:07 AM

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mine sits around 35 at load

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with my space heater on

true canyon Oct 19, 2021, 3:07 AM

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Not sure why you repeated yourself. We know it's on, you just said it's at load.

potent fossil Oct 19, 2021, 3:09 AM

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wat

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mbax my brain is fried plz no confoos

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oh i see what you did there, i had to buffer for 6 minutes

marble lark Oct 19, 2021, 4:23 AM

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potent fossil looks decent for air cooling, but there are a lot of variables. what's the ambie...

It's I think 30 right now

untold copper Oct 19, 2021, 4:24 AM

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i

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have awoken

marble lark Oct 19, 2021, 4:24 AM

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I'm more surprised because this is the same PC that overheats to such extremes under absolutely no load at all that it usually melts the casing underneath the keyboard

marble lark Oct 19, 2021, 4:25 AM

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true canyon _glances at 31C CPU and 25C GPU_

Can I has your PC ples

floral mesa Oct 19, 2021, 4:29 AM

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might want to see about clearing dust out or getting better thermal paste

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unless its a mac, then I cant help you on that part

sharp sentinel Oct 19, 2021, 4:29 AM

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Lmao that's below room temp for me

warm anchor Oct 19, 2021, 4:53 AM

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PepeLa

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People around equator wondering how you get pc that cold when their room is literally burning

strange raven Oct 19, 2021, 5:08 AM

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what's an OK performance but really cheap laptop

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I'll need it for basic web browsing, light programming, and connecting to RDPs (shouldn't have any performance issues)

potent fossil Oct 19, 2021, 5:09 AM

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some thinkpad from ebay

strange raven Oct 19, 2021, 5:09 AM

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ty simple

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so helpful

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T420?

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Which one you got

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I'll probably run something light on it like puppy linux

potent fossil Oct 19, 2021, 5:09 AM

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i dont have a thinkpad but a thinkpad will do the job

warm anchor Oct 19, 2021, 5:10 AM

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What’s light programming? Writing python code in notepad??

cold pumice Oct 19, 2021, 5:10 AM

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Programming LEDs to light up?

meager tusk Oct 19, 2021, 5:10 AM

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older thinkpads are tanks

strange raven Oct 19, 2021, 5:10 AM

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writing python code in vsc

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simple scripts

potent fossil Oct 19, 2021, 5:12 AM

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t420 with i5-2520M, 8gigs ddr3, and the onboard intel hd 4000 graphics should be fine for those activities.

definitely old, not flashy, and it won't be mega high speed but it will do the job

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and it should run you less than $300

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spend a bit more and you could get a bit more 🤷‍♂️

strange raven Oct 19, 2021, 5:13 AM

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Ok, what do you think?

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The money's not important

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Getting the job done is

potent fossil Oct 19, 2021, 5:13 AM

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thonk

strange raven Oct 19, 2021, 5:13 AM

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Check my profile picture

cold pumice Oct 19, 2021, 5:13 AM

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I highly recommend spending a little more to get something that'll last

strange raven Oct 19, 2021, 5:13 AM

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I'm willing to spend what's necessary

cold pumice Oct 19, 2021, 5:13 AM

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I made the dumb decision years ago to just go for a cheap laptop

strange raven Oct 19, 2021, 5:13 AM

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I need to make sure it'll last a while too

potent fossil Oct 19, 2021, 5:13 AM

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ok then get a newer laptop if you have the money

cold pumice Oct 19, 2021, 5:13 AM

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Didn't even get 10fps on Minecraft half the time

strange raven Oct 19, 2021, 5:14 AM

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Ah I won't be running games at all

potent fossil Oct 19, 2021, 5:14 AM

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your requirements are creeping up into normal laptop land so just go on bestbuy and look at stuff

strange raven Oct 19, 2021, 5:14 AM

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I can do that on my desktop

south matrix Oct 19, 2021, 5:14 AM

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using a T430 rn

strange raven Oct 19, 2021, 5:14 AM

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You fucking with it

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Is the performance good?

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I'll probably just be running like, arch with i3 or puppy linux, something really light

south matrix Oct 19, 2021, 5:14 AM

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good with discord spotify minecraft IJ

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firefox

potent fossil Oct 19, 2021, 5:14 AM

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i ain't got time for this, this is making me dehydrated

strange raven Oct 19, 2021, 5:14 AM

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DRINK plenty of water

potent fossil Oct 19, 2021, 5:15 AM

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i drink over a gallon a day and the way you type still drains me of my life force

bright pollen Oct 19, 2021, 5:15 AM

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Whatever you buy, make sure to replace the HDD with an SSD

long tree Oct 19, 2021, 5:15 AM

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Why isnt my motd working on bunge?

strange raven Oct 19, 2021, 5:17 AM

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potent fossil i drink over a gallon a day and the way you type still drains me of my life forc...

I'm sorry that I type different from you

meager tusk Oct 19, 2021, 5:19 AM

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potent fossil i drink over a gallon a day and the way you type still drains me of my life forc...

I will Replenish Your Life Force Bro!

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👉❤️👈

potent fossil Oct 19, 2021, 5:23 AM

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yay idriz :pepelove:

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i have no nitro but just pretend

meager tusk Oct 19, 2021, 5:26 AM

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potent fossil i have no nitro but just pretend

I love Simple. Nitro or not!

potent fossil Oct 19, 2021, 5:26 AM

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Happee

nimble depot Oct 19, 2021, 6:24 AM

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Who needs nitro anyway?

merry talon Oct 19, 2021, 6:26 AM

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weebs

wispy blade Oct 19, 2021, 6:28 AM

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true

untold copper Oct 19, 2021, 6:36 AM

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filthy weebs

warm anchor Oct 19, 2021, 6:37 AM

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koriCool

potent fossil Oct 19, 2021, 6:55 AM

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etern buy me nitro???

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🥺

nimble depot Oct 19, 2021, 7:07 AM

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The only reason I need nitro is to send 100 megs worth of garbage to people

wispy blade Oct 19, 2021, 7:11 AM

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yeah that sounds like a felenov thing to do

swift root Oct 19, 2021, 7:11 AM

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sending 16k closeup pics of the thinkpad nub again?

nimble depot Oct 19, 2021, 7:14 AM

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Yes indeed

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TrackPoint is great

potent fossil Oct 19, 2021, 7:20 AM

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i've never really used that thing ngl but i know exactly what you're talking about

nimble depot Oct 19, 2021, 8:04 AM

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It's always annoying that files are just 1KB over the limit

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So longcopy, split into multiple and then the person on the other end merges them back.

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One of my friends made a tool to use discord as a cloud. With encryption and stuff

wispy blade Oct 19, 2021, 8:22 AM

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lol

worn ember Oct 19, 2021, 8:43 AM

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nimble depot One of my friends made a tool to use discord as a cloud. With encryption and stu...

my friend was the reason they put restrictions on sheets on google cloud kek

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cuz he would upload terrabytes of data in xsl files

nimble depot Oct 19, 2021, 8:43 AM

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worn ember my friend was the reason they put restrictions on sheets on google cloud <:kek:5...

I used google sheets as a database myself

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nothing much of note really.

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Also we figured out how to mine crypto using github actions and would just spam commits to that repo

peak dirge Oct 19, 2021, 8:44 AM

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nimble depot Also we figured out how to mine crypto using github actions and would just spam ...

Bad, bad, bad!

worn ember Oct 19, 2021, 8:44 AM

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wtf

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the efficiency of that would be about 0 kek

nimble depot Oct 19, 2021, 8:45 AM

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peak dirge Bad, bad, bad!

come on they have far too much money since they are owned by michaelsoft

worn ember Oct 19, 2021, 8:45 AM

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its not cuz their parent company swims in money they have unlimited budget too lol

peak dirge Oct 19, 2021, 8:45 AM

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shitcoin mining is why developers can't have good CI any more without paying for it

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it's also why gamers can't buy GPUs too

worn ember Oct 19, 2021, 8:46 AM

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well thats only part of why there are shortages

nimble depot Oct 19, 2021, 8:46 AM

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I do admit to scalping but I like money

worn ember Oct 19, 2021, 8:46 AM

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wtf

peak dirge Oct 19, 2021, 8:46 AM

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thonk

worn ember Oct 19, 2021, 8:46 AM

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ban this guy

nimble depot Oct 19, 2021, 8:47 AM

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blame my bank account. 7 digits is not enough to satisfy it's hunger

worn ember Oct 19, 2021, 8:47 AM

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i dont even have 4 digits

sand shuttle Oct 19, 2021, 8:49 AM

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You know what else is fun about the malware I brought up in #paper-dev ?
The random classes it needs, like why does it need org/apache/maven/plugin/AbstractMojo and what's it from

nimble depot Oct 19, 2021, 8:50 AM

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worn ember i dont even have 4 digits

why not join the mafia ¯_(ツ)_/¯

worn ember Oct 19, 2021, 8:51 AM

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nimble depot why not join the mafia ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

i like to live

nimble depot Oct 19, 2021, 8:51 AM

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worn ember i like to live

lifeform will bre preserved but you will have to go to horny hell later

worn ember Oct 19, 2021, 8:53 AM

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nimble depot lifeform will bre preserved but you will have to go to horny hell later

excuse me what

nimble depot Oct 19, 2021, 8:53 AM

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nevermind

sand shuttle Oct 19, 2021, 9:04 AM

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org/apache/activeio/journal/Journal Anyone have any idea on wtf dependency this comes from?

peak dirge Oct 19, 2021, 9:12 AM

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sand shuttle `org/apache/activeio/journal/Journal` Anyone have *any* idea on wtf dependency t...

Originates, apparently, from the Apache ActiveMQ project.

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https://github.com/apache/activemq-activeio/blob/trunk/activeio-core/src/main/java/org/apache/activeio/journal/Journal.java

GitHub

activemq-activeio/Journal.java at trunk · apache/activemq-activeio

Mirror of Apache ActiveMQ ActiveIO. Contribute to apache/activemq-activeio development by creating an account on GitHub.

sand shuttle Oct 19, 2021, 9:12 AM

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peak dirge Originates, apparently, from the Apache ActiveMQ project.

I'm gonna be very confused if this malware doesn't actually use that

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maven-plugin-api-3.8.3.jar, ant-1.10.11.jar, cglib-3.3.0.jar, aspectjweaver-1.9.8.RC1.jar
Using the most random ass dependencies

peak dirge Oct 19, 2021, 9:13 AM

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It's Minecraft. It's likely a case of a botched shading.

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Unsurprisingly, malware is typically made by the least scrupulous.

sand shuttle Oct 19, 2021, 9:13 AM

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Nah, this is well..something... the obfuscation alone is a pita

peak dirge Oct 19, 2021, 9:14 AM

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my only suggestion is to redouble your commitment to security

sand shuttle Oct 19, 2021, 9:15 AM

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Yoinked it off spigot before deleting it and banning the user, I'm just trying to RE it at this point lol

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😐

sand shuttle Oct 19, 2021, 9:32 AM

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peak dirge https://github.com/apache/activemq-activeio/blob/trunk/activeio-core/src/main/ja...

I can't even find a jar with this in it. Where the hell did this malware dev get this class 👀

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at least their META-INF is a thing, guess i can hope I can use that lol

worn ember Oct 19, 2021, 9:56 AM

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@warm anchor https://youtu.be/vJdxeezDAVs this is why dota is better than league

YouTube

elwonoccino

is this satisfying or disgusting?

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#dota2

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gleaming galleon Oct 19, 2021, 10:34 AM

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Hello

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Can i ask about plugins here

peak dirge Oct 19, 2021, 10:46 AM

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I’m really bad at closing tabs

minor mantle Oct 19, 2021, 10:52 AM

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just press close all 👀

worn ember Oct 19, 2021, 11:01 AM

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gleaming galleon Can i ask about plugins here

If it's about developing them #paper-dev if it's with help or configs #paper-help

gleaming galleon Oct 19, 2021, 11:02 AM

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worn ember If it's about developing them <#555462289851940864> if it's with help or configs...

Ok thanks

tribal basin Oct 19, 2021, 11:17 AM

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Just out of curiosity, as any of you considered minestom ?

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https://minestom.net/

wispy blade Oct 19, 2021, 11:21 AM

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minestom is more suited for minigame servers where you need a small base server

marble lark Oct 19, 2021, 11:21 AM

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Naomi beat me to it

tribal basin Oct 19, 2021, 11:22 AM

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So if you wanna create your own gamemode you could possibly go for minestom and program your minigame ?

marble lark Oct 19, 2021, 11:22 AM

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But yeah their design philosophy is that it's easier to add the parts that you need than to disable/remove and handle features that you don't

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Pretty much

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You don't have to though, it's really up to you

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Also ello naomi

wispy blade Oct 19, 2021, 11:23 AM

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ello sherman

marble lark Oct 19, 2021, 11:23 AM

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How ye been

wispy blade Oct 19, 2021, 11:23 AM

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hi mari ❤️

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im feeling kinda sick so im omw home

minor badge Oct 19, 2021, 11:23 AM

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Keep in mind that minestom requires you to build your own car, while Paper is more just painting it. There's a lot more work to it, but it really, really pays off if you're large enough and need that flexibility and have the time.

marble lark Oct 19, 2021, 11:24 AM

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Guess we're both not feeling that great haha

wispy blade Oct 19, 2021, 11:24 AM

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i blame elshout

marble lark Oct 19, 2021, 11:24 AM

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Xd

wispy blade Oct 19, 2021, 11:24 AM

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elshout

marble lark Oct 19, 2021, 11:24 AM

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Inb4 Elshout gets an extension module called Rene

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I have no idea what that would do though

wispy blade Oct 19, 2021, 11:25 AM

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who needs modules

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when you can just shove everything into the standard library

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looks at v

marble lark Oct 19, 2021, 12:13 PM

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Who needs a standard library

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Looks at

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Ok I can't think of a language nevermind

viral hornet Oct 19, 2021, 12:28 PM

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minor badge Keep in mind that minestom requires you to build your own car, while Paper is mo...

Can you please build me a car happy

minor badge Oct 19, 2021, 12:28 PM

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I can't 😔

viral hornet Oct 19, 2021, 12:28 PM

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oh

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Sadge

wispy blade Oct 19, 2021, 12:40 PM

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i remember a while back a friend showed me this website that'd just ship you a container of car parts so you can DIY your own car from scratch

tribal basin Oct 19, 2021, 12:44 PM

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Or just follow jerry rig everything to build your own ev

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might need a bit of cash

void void Oct 19, 2021, 12:57 PM

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wispy blade i remember a while back a friend showed me this website that'd just ship you a c...

One of the teachers at my school has a diy car lol

marble lark Oct 19, 2021, 1:08 PM

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minor badge I can't 😔

You could still buy em one :P

tropic flame Oct 19, 2021, 1:11 PM

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is that even legal?

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to have a DIY car

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(in public road at least, i guess that in private property no one gives a shit anyway)

worn ember Oct 19, 2021, 1:13 PM

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Man the last thing I want to see on Instagram are "hacking" tutorials lmao

untold copper Oct 19, 2021, 1:14 PM

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day #134 of trying to get abs: no exercise cos i literally can't, every muscle in my body hurts.

toxic bone Oct 19, 2021, 1:14 PM

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HOW TO HACK THE NSA: go to cmd, enter ipconfig /flushdns

untold copper Oct 19, 2021, 1:15 PM

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toxic bone HOW TO HACK THE NSA: go to cmd, enter `ipconfig /flushdns`

wont that

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do a thing

worthy geode Oct 19, 2021, 1:16 PM

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tropic flame is that even legal?

sure, most countries have some process of approving individual vehicles (that don't have a type approval)

golden gust Oct 19, 2021, 1:17 PM

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Yea, most countries have a process, theres generally a good number of requirements you've gotta meet in terms of road worthyness, at least over here, but, you can 100% build your own car

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Just, economies of scale, safety, etc, etc

plucky sparrow Oct 19, 2021, 1:30 PM

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This doesn’t seem right

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Look at the navigation bar

native wolf Oct 19, 2021, 1:40 PM

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Huh, probably Discord on mobile being buggy as usual

quick pasture Oct 19, 2021, 2:02 PM

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discord forgot for a sec iphone 1x series have bezels

gleaming galleon Oct 19, 2021, 2:16 PM

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Does PaperMC have YouTube Channel?

chrome cosmos Oct 19, 2021, 2:17 PM

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gleaming galleon Does PaperMC have YouTube Channel?

just
whyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

gleaming galleon Oct 19, 2021, 2:17 PM

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just
whyyyyyyyyyyyyynot?