general

[magic river]

You mean you have the JS number type?

Yeah, crt0.o, that's the name, couldn't remember it

It's in libgcc_s or something

[frank otter]

I remember it cuz it gave me stupid amounts of linking errors

that sounds right

[marble lark]

yep it's the same

[frank otter]

I think with cpp it doesn't just to the stack, but also static class instances?

[marble lark]

there's a metric ton of platform specific stuff in crt

[frank otter]

or something like that, idk cpp

[marble lark]

?

[frank otter]

does crt stand for c runtime or is it the old TVs

[marble lark]

C Runtime yeah

Microsoft calls theirs vcruntime

[frank otter]

eh same names for the same things

*similar names

I'm brain dead today

[marble lark]

well same thing but different internal code

[frank otter]

wouldn't it be similar tho

[marble lark]

you know for a fact Microsoft made their runtime just to be different lmao

[marble lark]

well functionally yeah

but internally I'm pretty sure each group has very different code

[frank otter]

just like resb (stack size) and mov rsp, stack_ptr

and then all the signatures and maybe argument stuff

[magic river]

No, they made their runtime because they have their own C compiler 😛

[marble lark]

fair enough haha

[magic river]

And GCC wasn't a thing when they started it anyway 😄

[marble lark]

I don't recall seeing assembly in glibc but I could be wrong

[frank otter]

still find it slightly funny that crt0.o can't have much C code in it

wait how do you set up a stack with C

[marble lark]

If I'm not wrong a lot of the stuff the C Runtimes provide internally just make native OS calls

[marble lark]

might want to ask Ama

[magic river]

You can write _start yourself in C and have it call your main

[frank otter]

oh is it like syscall wrappers

[magic river]

No, syscall wrappers would be libc

[frank otter]

do elf executables need to set up their own stack?

[upbeat falcon]

What is the use of _start() in C? - Stack Overflow

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29694564/what-is-the-use-of-start-in-c

Apr 17, 2015 ... It sets up some stuff, populates the argument array argv , counts how many ... If a program does not want to use the C runtime environment, ...

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[magic river]

_start also initializes statics I think for C++ code

[frank otter]

yeah I though it did

seems like it does argc/argv stuff

interesting

[solid sapphire]

healp

[magic river]

Yeah, I think I was wrong about the stack stuff

[marble lark]

magic with the stack

[marble lark]

?

[solid sapphire]

i took a nap in the evening

cant sleep now

[frank otter]

was in the process of writing my own lang and now between crt0.o talk and JVM talk I think I'm doing it all wrong

[magic river]

I think ELF and the ld.so set up your stack?

Not sure there

[upbeat falcon]

ld.so(8) - Linux manual page

https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man8/ld.so.8.html

Aug 27, 2021 ... DESCRIPTION top · ld.so and · ld-linux.so* find and load the shared objects (shared libraries) needed by a program, prepare the program to run, ...

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[magic river]

_start makes sure you have the right alignment for the stack though

And sets up argc and argv, yeah

[waxen panther]

sez u

[marble lark]

just checked seems like the executable file itself includes a section in the header that sets the stack

guessing it depends tho

[mortal zinc]

@magic river would I be crazy to suggest that the previous Bukkit crew re-assemble and give a better direction of Bukkit than where spigot is taking things? is that something completely crazy to suggest? I figure I might as well go and suggest it and see what your answer is, lol

[waxen panther]

very crazy

[frank otter]

broccolai I like your emoji

[waxen panther]

they've all moved on

and the paper team is fine

[magic river]

Mojang might sue me just out of spite if I did that 😛

[waxen panther]

thank u mr tesseract

[mortal zinc]

well isn't the main issue wolvereness though?

[frank otter]

damn just got called mr, feeling very high society rn

[magic river]

Uh, yeah, sure

[marble lark]

a sacrifice for the greater good

:)

[mortal zinc]

well, technically he did that because of mojang, so...

its ugly either way

[magic river]

I was trying to sell my copyright to Mojang

[frank otter]

I feel like not sacrificing ama might be a slightly better approach to any problems

they seem to know a lot

[magic river]

Their lawyers sent me a response that I don't think counted as a cease and desist but might, I'm not a lawyer 😛

If not it was at least the threat of one

[marble lark]

guy owned Minecraft since 2010 and is an ex-Bukkit team member that shouldn't be a surprise

[frank otter]

eh good point

[marble lark]

Honestly I wouldn't mind if Mojang re-hired him to improve the renderer tho :P

[frank otter]

so hypothetically if I was trying to write a bytecode runner like JVM is parsing a map file? map header? and then just running a big switch statement over bytes not the way to go

because it feels very stone age but it works

[magic river]

They bought out the rights from the first group of maintainers (which I only just learned then), thought they might do the same with me and I could just wash my hands of it and let Dinnerbone do the update like he said he was going to do

[frank otter]

wait mojang owns copyright on what, bukkit?

[wide chasm]

Mojang owns Bukkit

[magic river]

Apparently? I don't think it was ever clarified what they bought

[frank otter]

huh interesting

[magic river]

Curse bought something, Mojang bought it from them when DB, Grum, Tahg, and ES joined them

[austere ivy]

false; I own bukkit. everything is owned by me.

[magic river]

They at least bought the name and crap, maybe the source code too?

I also found out then that Curse had been paying at least Dinnerbone to work on Bukkit

[marble lark]

the switch statement over bytes is the easiest and fastest option out of the several

[magic river]

We sure as shit never got paid to work on anything

[frank otter]

fastest as in running speed?

[marble lark]

that's what Python does at least

[marble lark]

yep

[frank otter]

python... bytecode?

[magic river]

What do you think .pyc files are?

[marble lark]

Unless you fancy writing Interpreters that pass bytecode calls directly to hardware that's your easiest option

[frank otter]

what the heck are pyc files

I did not know that existed

[marble lark]

Python compiles to an internal bytecode format

[frank otter]

welp I gotta head out

[wide chasm]

Well, not all the code apparently

[frank otter]

very interesting talk

[marble lark]

:(

cya

[frank otter]

feel like a bit of an idiot but hey

[magic river]

Well, no, they couldn't buy code those 4 didn't write

[frank otter]

cya

[magic river]

Well, they could, but not without talking to each developer

[wide chasm]

Yeah, I was under the impression that they just bought the name and stuff and the source code of those four

[marble lark]

Mojang never actually did anything with Bukkit anyway

[tropic flame]

so you have no faith on Paper? 😛

[marble lark]

makes you wonder why they even bothered

[magic river]

I think the original plan was for Bukkit to be the basis of an official API

Either via directly lifting some code or at least inspired by it

[marble lark]

was for Bukkit to be the basis of an official API
LOL

[tropic flame]

have they ever bothered with an official modding API for java edition? closest thing we've got is datapacks

can they replace what we've got currently?

[magic river]

So it made sense to hire the main developers and get the rights to use that code

[marble lark]

datapacks aren't mods

[tropic flame]

hence "closest thing"

[magic river]

datapacks will be mods eventually

[marble lark]

get the rights to use that code
Which they never did, gj Mojang

[magic river]

Hell they can already do some things Bukkit can't 😛

[marble lark]

really?

[magic river]

They did get the rights to the code those 4 wrote

Getting all of it would be hard/impossible and probably not worth it

[marble lark]

All they can do is execute commands from what I remember

[magic river]

They could just avoid or rewrite the stuff other people wrote

datapacks can make custom biomes

[tropic flame]

now they just gotta buy Glowstone and ditch the old CB code 😂

[marble lark]

that's not what I meant I meant they never actually made an API with the stuff they got

[marble lark]

when Paper hard forks they gon buy Paper

lmao

[magic river]

I think those 4 were under the impression ProGuard was a lot more powerful than it actually is

Like, they thought the code made more sense originally and it was just the compiler and obfuscator making it a mess

So when they got in to the actual code plans changed

[tropic flame]

LMAO

[stray oyster]

yo wut

[wide chasm]

I'm curious how much they paid for Bukkit

[magic river]

Step 1: Merge multiplayer and single player so future mods could work with both and they don't have to maintain two codebases for all future changes

Step 2: Make the bits they want mods to work with more generic and data driven so you can add to them without having to change large chunks of the code

Thus registries and tags and such

They're still on step 2 😄

It probably would have been easier to start over with a proper game engine but considering no one else has managed to do that yet maybe not

Big studios that play in that space always make things more like Cube World where the voxels are just an aesthetic and the indies either never release, make things worse than Minecraft, make something more like their ideal version of modded Minecraft, or some combination of the above

[tropic flame]

at this point imo an official modding API isn't much of a craze as it would be in the last decade

thanks to the game being written in Java the community just made its own tools and called it a day

[marble lark]

look at how Bedrock's modding API turned out lel

[magic river]

Oh, there was that Everquest game that died, I guess that was a big studio that failed to make something similar

[tropic flame]

and honestly we've got pretty nice tools

some better than others but-

😛

[marble lark]

they chose javascript of all languages

[tropic flame]

javascript 🤣

[rare tiger]

the world if fabric made a server implementation with plugin compatibility

[magic river]

JS or Lua of some similar simple scripting language is how modding usually works

[tropic flame]

i mean, i think it's called Fabric

just write server-side mods lmfao

[marble lark]

Fabric also has server implementations too

[magic river]

You do all the heavy lifting in C++ and handle high level behavior and, well, scripting, with your scripting language

[rare tiger]

I started coding by modding with lua and i'd rather it have been java

[rare tiger]

maintaining two codebases
you missed my point

[magic river]

Like, your C++ still does your physics, pathfinding, etc

Chunk generation would be a tricky one, you probably need a lower level language for that to be fast enough

[marble lark]

nah fam a tree walk language would suffice for that one

:P

[static badge]

just throw all of the cpus on the machine at chunk gen

that'll solve it

[marble lark]

ah yes

[magic river]

But datapacks work around that by letting you mix and match the chunk generation primitives and iirc define structures using some data files?

[potent fossil]

missing the point so hard that you actually offend yourself and sometimes the entire room is one of paper's pasttimes @rare tiger

fyi

[tropic flame]

what two codebases? just target Fabric only, then?

[stray oyster]

someone said bedrock

[marble lark]

ow?

[stray oyster]

oh no

[formal turret]

targeting any modded platform while trying to run a server in which unmodded clients can connect

[magic river]

They want a Paper API implementation on top of Fabric but also support plugins that use NMS

[tropic flame]

yeah i figured

[stray oyster]

not impossible

[magic river]

Since fabric mods are mixins you could actually do that without a ton of effort I think

Just have the final jar use spigot mappings, mixins will handle that for your mods

[tropic flame]

don't you just run into the same issues as a Forge+Bukkit hybrid though

[stray oyster]

well not entirely, some patches can't be 100% replicated by mixins alone

[magic river]

The problem is mods are going to break Paper and vice versa

[tropic flame]

like Bukkit not being aware of modded blocks

[magic river]

Yeah

Sponge is the solution there, surprise 😄

[stray oyster]

spongefabric?

[formal turret]

theres been like 2 attempts at spongefabric that i've seen

[stray oyster]

thats

[magic river]

SpongeForge isn't even a thing right now afaik

[formal turret]

lol i think they're both not actively being worked on

[marble lark]

nah

fool

clearly it's this

[magic river]

They have their 1.12 or 1.14 or whatever version that people use with mods but for 1.17 stuff it's only SpongeVanilla

[marble lark]

https://github.com/deoxxa/jsmc

[magic river]

Or was last time I looked in to it

[formal turret]

i think they're working on spongeforge for 1.16 or 1.17 now

think it's working in dev

[tropic flame]

1.12.2

[magic river]

They rewrote their build system to be a custom thing instead of using ForgeGradle

[tropic flame]

yeah they say they can now develop on snapshots too

[magic river]

I think doing a Forge version was dependent on getting a new ForgeGradle that was instead based on their build system

[tropic flame]

without depending on Forge

or something

idk

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/ai-SOVmU3zg Minecart go brrr

[magic river]

Yeah I think they autogenerate snapshot versions

They just disable any mixins that don't build so you probably won't get a working server

[stray oyster]

I have a working concept for a modern proxy impl with an open standard not bound to a single modloader sitting here collecting dust.

Modloaders are just awful to work with

fabric way less so than forge

[worn ember]

i understand about 5% of that

[magic river]

But it means they can just iteratively fix the broken ones as they go

Sometimes they might finish fast enough to get a working snapshot build but otherwise it should mean when 1.18 happens they at least don't have as much work to do

From snapshot to snapshot the changes needed are probably usually pretty straightforward

Except if some part of vanilla just got a big overhaul

[tropic flame]

https://github.com/CardboardPowered/cardboard

hey, here's what that other guy wanted

he can be happy now

muh plugenz

[tropic flame]

yeah

[void void]

👀

[potent fossil]

i dont think i recognize a single person on that contributor list

[magic river]

Oh wow they do remapping on load

[potent fossil]

maybe they're all mod devs, idk

[formal turret]

they're all mod devs yea

[magic river]

Well, they basically do what md5's maven plugin does but do it on first load instead of at build time

[potent fossil]

ive been in the server world for...erm. idk a long time, dont remember. but never really messed around w/ client

[magic river]

And go the other way, of course

Oh, and they try to handle reflection too, tricky

[potent fossil]

bukkit forum finally ded? :D i was gonna check my initial join date but guess not

[wide chasm]

Up for me

[tropic flame]

i think it's up for me too

[potent fossil]

yea came back up, idk, something hiccupped

[vernal moth]

I know rtm, but this is hardly a contribution 😄

https://github.com/CardboardPowered/cardboard/commit/1f0db5b952eb434dcb0dcb44577852f42be013dd

[potent fossil]

oh wait, actually, i recognize rtm but that's it

well, idk how to log into my old bukkit acct so whatever, i believe i joined in 2012 or something, so next year will be a decade

😭

[tropic flame]

iirc you had to migrate from twitch account to whatever new platform bought the website, i think overwolf??

[potent fossil]

thonk

[tropic flame]

except they completely borked the migration so you need to contact an admin to do it for you

[potent fossil]

i don't care that much, all i wanted to do was check a profile info

pre sure it's 2012

[wide chasm]

You had to migrate from a Bukkit account to a Twitch account and the Twitch accounts are still in use afaik

[potent fossil]

but it's just an XF acct?

oh i got in w/ a random pass

oh god

[wide chasm]

Actually, maybe not for the forums, I was thinking of dbo

[potent fossil]

jfc

i hit a decade on Sept 12th this year

noooooooooooooooooo

[tropic flame]

https://bukkit.org/threads/curseforge-accounts.489138/

[potent fossil]

im too old https://i.imgur.com/gfqC23W.png

[wide chasm]

Oh, so Bukkit uses Overwolf, but not dbo...?

[tropic flame]

i have no idea

I've thought of putting one of my plugins in there just for the shits and giggles but gave up with this migration mess

[wide chasm]

If I go to dbo in incognito it asks for a twitch login

I use dbo, just not bukkit forums

[tropic flame]

oh

[wide chasm]

Let me reset my password, see if I can manage to get in

[rare tiger]

Also if minestom ever finishes their vanilla implementation

Not going to hold my breath

[potent fossil]

minestom is great for making your own stuff, im not sure i'd really care for them to make a vanilla impl

[wide chasm]

Not at this rate, since it's currently on hold 🙂

[rare tiger]

Great tool for mini games though ^

[untold meadow]

jfc i can't believe it's been this long

[potent fossil]

kezz almost at a decade too

[untold meadow]

minestom's vanilla reimp is back in dev but if you're using minestom for vanilla you're an idiot

[marble lark]

^

[untold meadow]

decade buddies!!!

[potent fossil]

ancient mothballs we are

[marble lark]

I can't join y'all cause my dumb ass only exists on Spigot forums

[rare tiger]

If it fully replicates vanilla behavior then I don't really see the issue

[marble lark]

:/

[untold meadow]

🧓

the "if" in that sentence is doing a metric fucktonne of work

[rare tiger]

I would be willing to contribute honestly. Most of the trouble is on the client, the server by comparison does almost nothing

[potent fossil]

one month before me amaranth 😁

but you're ancient in general

[magic river]

After?

[potent fossil]

wait

[stray oyster]

wot

ancient

[potent fossil]

u right

shet

[rare tiger]

It did take 10 years to make the Minecraft server code how it is today but a lot of that is riddled in misteps and dormancy

[wide chasm]

Not getting a password recovery email, so I'm guessing my account is lost

[potent fossil]

i didnt get one either

guessed an old pass and it worked

[wide chasm]

I did a couple guesses but no luck

Oh, guessed it now, I'm in

[potent fossil]

i can try looking up your acc for join date, unless the profile is hidden

[ancient bolt]

https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-r2-object-storage/ looks dope

[potent fossil]

oh gg

[wide chasm]

lol

[potent fossil]

poggers

[wide chasm]

Guess my passwords back then were not very strong

[untold meadow]

this is a ridiculous understatement

[potent fossil]

it's a statement based entirely on ignorance

im not expending any mental energy here

[untold meadow]

very understandable haha

[stray oyster]

Didnt find my account

[untold meadow]

it's a server/client model, comparing their workload is dumb

[stray oyster]

still on password manager

[untold meadow]

they serve different purposes

[stray oyster]

but password was incorrect

[wide chasm]

Joined May 14, 2015 during the 1.8 era

Apparently my dbo is older than that though

[limber knot]

there were two name purges on DBO, unlikely that you could log in into it, even if you had the required info

[potent fossil]

you can log in with the email if you know/guess the pass

we're talking about forum

[meager tusk]

Ok Gimple

[potent fossil]

why are you mad at me idriz

[limber knot]

Did the forum also relocate a bunch of stuff?

*didn't

[potent fossil]

idk, i haven't logged into my bukkit before now since like 2013 or something, and it worked just fine

so maybe the purge just Left Me Alone (TM)

[limber knot]

okay, then there was nothing like it

[meager tusk]

Because your name is Gimple and not Simple

Makes me sad + cry

[limber knot]

why do you capitalize the 'g'?

[potent fossil]

i fixed it for u plz be happy

[meager tusk]

I am happy and now i love you

[potent fossil]

gud

[meager tusk]

I can't find my old reddit's password

It's a trove full of cringe shit and I want it deleted

Thankfully it was under an alias so it's not like anyone can find it but fuck

[unkempt drift]

found it

[lament patio]

Same with me and Yahoo! Answers

Thankfully the whole site was taken down

[ashen cliff]

Good thing it's fully archived.

[wide chasm]

Ah, so you were the one person using it

[formal turret]

ah yes the cringe shit we all posted when we were 14

[hybrid token]

rips

[hybrid token]

Hey I'm 14 😠

[formal turret]

well you'll know what i mean in a few years

[meager tusk]

Shut up Mittel European.

[ashen cliff]

Mittel.

[meager tusk]

Ok

[ashen cliff]

You know very well that your next job is going to be in Nemačka on a BAUŠTELA!

[meager tusk]

BRO!

[ashen cliff]

BRO!

IT'S A FACT!

[meager tusk]

Position was taken by Greek immigrant.

Can't bro.

[ashen cliff]

F.

Also bro! Air Serbia played me dirty today.

[meager tusk]

Air Serbia plays everyone dirty.

[ashen cliff]

They cut 20 hours of my vacation.

[meager tusk]

It's Serbia in the air. It's dirty by default.

[ashen cliff]

And if I want them back, I have to wait 16 hours... in BEOGRADE!

Also my brain broke... again.

[meager tusk]

You have to wait 16 hours in beograd. Bro.

[ashen cliff]

Yes.

[meager tusk]

I think it will be too late for you after 16 hours are gone.

[ashen cliff]

No way to escape.

[meager tusk]

You will have lips like VUCIC!

Everyone has them there.

[ashen cliff]

So Idriz bro!

Want to spend 13 hours in Vućić land with me?

[merry talon]

now this is epic

wow, I guess you guys are pretty scared DW lol

[wispy blade]

tfw puts effort into analysing speech

[marble lark]

you have no idea how much I do that excessively

anxiety ftw

[magic river]

Do they work at backblaze or something?

[vernal moth]

S3, B2, R2 😄

[little frost]

hm yes letter-number stands for object storage

[magic river]

Azure Storage

[wispy blade]

i love how those could actually be valid shogi moves

[vernal moth]

we put our website behind azure traffic manager on sunday and now crawl our prod website and put it on an azure static site storage account and use that as a fallback in traffic manager 😄

[magic river]

I wasn't saying anything about quality or if you should use it, just showing not all of them are letter + number 😛

Just fire up minio and you can make your own with a real name too

[ancient bolt]

B2 is still cheaper, and ironically egress is also free through cloudflare

so there should still be a place for us in the market

[ancient bolt]

i do

[vernal moth]

b2 is also not your only product, right?

I remember backblaze being advertised as this company you use to backup your shit to that will send you a harddrive if yours failed

[magic river]

I dunno what their revenue is like but their main product as far as mindshare is a backup tool

Although the cloud storage part is on the top of their homepage so I guess they want that to change 😛

I think I'm still paying for a backblaze account I haven't used since I got my XPS (no Linux version)

[warm anchor]

Amaranth is literally the best customer

[magic river]

Well, that was only May 2020 😛

I might have a Mac again in a few months, it'll get used again then

[wispy blade]

WHO THE FUCK WATCHED SAUSAGE PARTY ON MY NETFLIX ACCOUNT

[magic river]

Or I could use it via WINE and probably violate the EULA...

[void void]

that's on netflix?

[wispy blade]

yes

i would never watch smth like that

[void void]

[warm anchor]

It’s ok nioma we understand

You are on denial phase

Acceptance is first step to overcome your issues @wispy blade

[ancient bolt]

biggest product is backup

fastest growing product is cloud storage

[wispy blade]

bruh i don't watch movies

i only watch shows i find interesting

mostly anime (yes, burn me at the stake, i don't care, nanatsu no taizai is good)

[ancient bolt]

I guess I should start using backblaze considering I work here....

most people here are like super into data and storage and harddrives and backup and I'm like...I write code sometimes

[wispy blade]

lol

[ancient bolt]

my backup strategy has been to either have all of my stuff saved using cloud saves etc, using most programs without lots of modifications so they are easy to re-install, and having most of my stuff that I need saved in github

[vernal moth]

Ooops?

[ancient bolt]

switching computers for me is as easy as installing a few things and logging in to some places and cloning some repos

[void void]

are they actually selling those?

[vernal moth]

Yes

https://drop.com/buy/stack-overflow-the-key-macropad

[ancient bolt]

can it be used as command+C,V for mac as well?

[vernal moth]

It's programmable

https://stackoverflow.blog/2021/09/28/become-a-better-coder-with-this-one-weird-click/

[wispy blade]

LMAO

i need one

[vernal moth]

https://drop.com/talk/93641/how-to-configure-stack-overflow-the-key-macropad

[void void]

huh

neat

only use this keyboard for the paper 1.18 update

[ancient bolt]

1.18 will bet the test to see if paperweight was all worth it lol

presumably it should be much easier

though I suspect md_5 will change his tooling yet again which will be a pain

[wispy blade]

speaking of keyboards, i'm surprised my z and x keys haven't died yet

[vernal moth]

Jokes on you Noah, updating is not much more than copy pasting stuff left to right

[void void]

ikr

[wispy blade]

is it copypasting stuff right to left then?

[void void]

you won't even notice the difference

[wispy blade]

i read that wrong, mb

i should make my terminal font DFPKanTeiRyu XB

[void void]

don't

[wispy blade]

why not? it's my terminal

[ashen cliff]

OUR terminal.

[warm anchor]

Tfw they actually make the April fool joke into reality

[meager tusk]

What in the fuck is that font name

[void void]

someone smashed their keyboard

[wispy blade]

it's DFPKanTeiRyu eXtra Bold

[void void]

the same guy who comes up with monitor model names also named this font

[wispy blade]

but it's not bold...

it's a japanese font smh

hm, almost worked

[warm anchor]

勘亭流

[wispy blade]

yes

not putting it in nickname to prevent mods angery

[warm anchor]

Nioma played too much taiko

[magic river]

I think if you put that in your nick the bot would automatically rename you

[warm anchor]

Really??

I did not notice this new feature

[wispy blade]

hmmmm

[magic river]

There is/was a bot that renames people with some hard/impossible to type characters in their name

[warm anchor]

Discord does allow non English name though it would be funny

[wispy blade]

oh well i got my neofetch im happy

[warm anchor]

I think it’s people that purposely use certain symbols that’s annoying

[meager tusk]

are you japanese?

[warm anchor]

She’s just a weeb

[void void]

just a gigantic weeb

[meager tusk]

Most patriotic w*sterner @ashen cliff

[ashen cliff]

Fact.

[wispy blade]

not a gigantic weeb

[ashen cliff]

Touhou fan. 🛌

[wispy blade]

top 8000 on osu taiko

[meager tusk]

japanese font

weeb wallpaper

[warm anchor]

Wallpaper behind terminal is a crime

[ashen cliff]

Changing the wallpaper at all should be a crime.

[wispy blade]

bro.

i don't want to have a white screen bro!

idr what color dwm defaults to

[warm anchor]

Terminal screen should be black background. Wouldn’t want it any other way

[magic river]

Dark solid color anyway, black isn't always a good idea

[wispy blade]

0,85 opacity 😔

[golden gust]

aqua white best white

[warm anchor]

I am convinced nioma’s very existence is a crime against humanity

[wispy blade]

i am convinced eternity only exists to make sarcastic remarks about me

[warm anchor]

😉

[wispy blade]

at least you're not in my personal discord

[warm anchor]

???

Didn’t get the invite

[wispy blade]

gonna keep it that way

[warm anchor]

[wispy blade]

only people i give this invite to is school friends.

this is kinda where Elshout originated

[meager tusk]

with all of its 3 members

[wispy blade]

more like 20

[waxen panther]

askers ?

[wispy blade]

broccolai (didn't ask)

[toxic bone]

Ok!

[viscid wedge]

hypixel is a higher search suggestion than hypervisor

can we delete children

[tropic flame]

yes please

make children perish

[viscid wedge]

Because looking up PowerVM Hypixel is exactly what I wanted to do

[thick wharf]

https://youtu.be/1QKktMk33QE

No, this isn't Bobby.

This is a mod that adds a Level of Detail system.

[tropic flame]

that's pretty cool actually

volcano size type of cool

[lament patio]

Huh, that's a good idea

Hopefully it comes to modern Fabric versions

[magic river]

Huh, I wonder if I'm CPU bound

Watching an LTT review of a cheapish gaming laptop and it seems to have done better in Shadow of the Tomb Raider at 4K Ultra

Their gaming laptop has a mobile 3070 in it which I think is more like a desktop 3060?

Oh, it had a mobile 3080

And cheapish is still more than $2000 😛

[potent fossil]

opened chrome and my cpu usage went from 10% to 35% sustained

[toxic bone]

neat

[proper brook]

paper

[ancient bolt]

windows told me my computer isn't compatible with windows 11 lol

5950x, 3080, asus crosshair VIII formula

probably need a BIOS update

[languid karma]

when windows tells you that windows isn't compatible with windows

[fossil patio]

ok but does your pc case have windows?

[ancient bolt]

the age old, gotta enable TPM

I wonder how microsoft will handle the millions of devices with TPM 2.0 disabled owned by people who don't even know what a BIOS is

[golden gust]

All I can say is, gg MS, gg

even more fun for those who need a bios update to even be able to enable it

[ancient bolt]

yeah lol

[magic river]

They'll say "your computer doesn't support Windows 11" and never even offer it to you

And Dell will say "buy our new desktop to get Windows 11"

And they'll both be happy

People who know what a TPM is and know what a BIOS is (UEFI for the past decade btw) will figure it out

[ancient bolt]

oh guess now that I have TPM enabled windows is updating to 11

if it fucks up my linux partition I'm gonna sue bill gates

[tropic flame]

suhkyureetee, amirite

oh and a web-based explorer too

lovely

[ancient bolt]

microsoft flight sim, 3.19GB download

needs 108MB of additional storage

talk about a massive patch

[tropic flame]

at least you didn't just download a launcher that's now going to download the entire game

[ancient bolt]

I mean

I did when I first bought it

[tropic flame]

... oh well

[ancient bolt]

took longer than steam's refund time period to be able to fully install and actually play the game

cause it was like 150GB download

and microsoft's update code is super slow and inefficient, nothing is done in parallel, and it would do download file, decompress file, download file, decompress file, in that order, over and over again, for thousands of small files

[potent fossil]

there are way more packages in npm now

[ancient bolt]

is it normal that windows 11 start menu doesn't open

ah yes, microsoft is a multi billion dollar company

i mean the settings page is nice and I like the frosted glass look...that they took directly from macos

but I like it in macos so, checks out

[tropic flame]

do they still have that "Show more options" button in the new context menu which leads you to the old one?

[ancient bolt]

windows terminal makes gefore experience lol

god I wish gefore experience would die

I really wish I had an AMD card instead

[tropic flame]

everyone here was like "stop complaining about it, it's still in development"

guess what

it did not matter

it's still there, they didn't do anything about it

and my complaints are just as right as they were

[golden gust]

tbqh, I had issues with the start menu sometimes refusing to open on windows 10

Like, sometimes it's just kinda slow, sometimes it wants nothing to do with me

11 on my vm last I recall did seem to be worse, but, I just attributed it to the fact it's on a VM

[tropic flame]

I'll cherish windows 10 as the last windows where the taskbar is not rendered with web technology

[ancient bolt]

I mean it's just broken for me lol

but I'll wait until all of the extra updates finish installing

then I'll start digging more

this says to uninstall an update that I don't have installed https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-insider-program/start-menu-not-opening-windows-11-dev/m-p/2597199/highlight/true#M7044

this is cool, microsoft tweeted a fix to the issue rather than like pushing a fix or something idk https://twitter.com/windowsinsider/status/1433615378362503177?s=20

anyways it doesn't work

[ancient bolt]

okay found a note in the known issues here https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/09/16/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22000-194/ that says to uninstall KB5005635 and that fixed it.

What the issue was I didn't even have the windows 11 taskbar. Was still the windows 10 taskbar, and nothing on it worked

[worn kestrel]

how much data usage do your guys' servers use per month?

[warm anchor]

About tree fiddy

[worn kestrel]

350 GB?

[warm anchor]

There is really no answer to your question as it heavily based on usage (?)

[worn kestrel]

fair point. I have in mind a very small server with like two simultaneous and 6 max players, and some internet-connected plugins. I'd also be curious what larger server data usage looks like though. I'm just curious like what the range is, from self hosted to massive public servers

[merry talon]

Yeah when it comes time for windows 11 on my desktop I'm just gonna do a fresh install

don't even want to bother with the side effects of upgrading directly

[chrome cosmos]

https://www.reddit.com/r/admincraft/comments/pxhn91/you_have_become_the_very_thing_you_swore_to/

[merry talon]

Ideally you just don't write spaghetti code

package util functions separately

[potent fossil]

yeah that just sounds like the design of the codebase is very smelly

so the fix is to spray some air freshener

[chrome sentinel]

PaperMC when you haven't updated for 5 minutes: "You are 168 versions behind."

[potent fossil]

if there is no way to decouple things enough (untie it, as you say) then consider what else is using C? just A and B? is anything else using B? if not, then put B inside of A and C inside of B so everything is inside of A. Otherwise, maybe C needs to be an api package I suppose. B perhaps too. But I have no idea without seeing the code, which I don't have time for

[potent fossil]

Just means the team is working hard to bring the best software possible.

[chrome sentinel]

Yeah, you're right.

[normal atlas]

how do i get perms for adorable kitties?

[potent fossil]

only kashike gives perms for that

if you see him around ask (dont ping)

[normal atlas]

nuuu

[potent fossil]

thats the only way

[normal atlas]

can you post my picture and just tag me? 😄

[potent fossil]

you can send it in general, i guess, and someone might but im busy

[potent fossil]

v cute

ill be disappearing again, really need to finish this lecture

[normal atlas]

okay bud, good luck on that

[potent fossil]

anything? the parse method defines it as generic for T

i don't know what that specific thing in cloud is

maybe go ask the cloud support in incendo or whatever

that parse method says T can be anything, it doesn't define anything about what it should be

so, that's my answer. go ask cloud

[meager tusk]

least complicated incendo framework

[untold copper]

last

exam

today

[meager tusk]

you're using cloud for the annotations?

[north fossil]

is it posible to make my self hosted paper server run 24/7

like when my pc is off the server stil on

[swift root]

no, because if the PC is off what can run it?

also, self-hosting 24/7 on a PC is almost always a terrible idea - I've seen ISPs turn off service to homes running 24/7 servers, and a PC is certainly not designed to handle running a server all the time, and using your own IP will put your whole home's network down if some idiot tries to attack your server

[north fossil]

cuz my friend wants to play on my server but when my pc off they cant

[warm anchor]

give your friend your cellphone so they can call you to turn PC on

[north fossil]

lol

if like my pc crashes the server wil turn of

[warm anchor]

Yes that’s how it works

You can rent a cheap server. Just ask your parents to pay for it alternatively

But otherwise you live with what you get

[vestal jasper]

If the machine running the server is no longer running... there is physically 0 possible way whatsoever that the server could still be up

If the server is down the server is down

[void void]

Well, how are you supposed to pick up if they have your phone?

[warm anchor]

[vestal jasper]

are you ok?

ok just making sure

[warm anchor]

Just curious how old are you? @void void

[vestal jasper]

really adding to the image of the average 2b player that I have in my head, ty for this experience

Ah so you just hate yourself

You get all of the chaos and none of the history

Boy do I wanna wait an hour or more to sit in a queue to elytra millions of blocks and get my base discovered without my knowledge because of the nth exploit found in whatever ancient version it uses

[potent fossil]

ye i like it but idk how to help that lad

[vestal jasper]

idk those kinds of servers aren't for me

also please stop pinging me every reply

I'm already in the chat

I wouldn't say it's balls

[warm anchor]

You spell too much fucking time wrong

It’s biggest waste of time and the average age in that server are edgy kids

[void void]

After looking at your about me, looks like you'll fit right in

[warm anchor]

Ok can we change topic. This is pretty dumb

[vestal jasper]

Oh boy I didn't notice that one

[worn crest]

🥲

[vestal jasper]

edgy

and not the good kind of edgy

[potent fossil]

wonderful

[vestal jasper]

if there was one

[void void]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[swift root]

!ban 773408975169126402 homophobia and trolling

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned Larpinqq#4727 (homophobia and trolling) [1 total infraction] -- Larry#6086.

[warm anchor]

I hope you grow up one day and cringe at your old actions and stops being an annoyance to your friends and family

[vestal jasper]

thanks larry

that one got boring fast

[warm anchor]

Wtf Larry too fast

[swift root]

that was wayyyy too obvious

[vestal jasper]

smells fishy

[swift root]

wasn't that someone else

[vestal jasper]

I have nothing better to do rn than waste time arguing with strangers, feed the troll I shall

idk

[swift root]

idunno man just looked at the most recent message and banned kek

[warm anchor]

It’s different person. I think lol

[vestal jasper]

lemme just hide that

[warm anchor]

Well I hope lol

[vestal jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S8eNZ4fw5I

[warm anchor]

[vestal jasper]

"will I get banned for that" famous last words

[warm anchor]

Wow you are now popular with the kid

[minor badge]

@swift root BEST paper mod

[swift root]

uwu! hi mari

been a while

[minor badge]

[wispy blade]

lmao that troll

[void void]

They continued in the spigot discord ^

But were banned shortly after

[magic nebula]

New discord update is lit 😮

[vernal moth]

Spigot discord good nowadays, they found the bam button

Well, not good but better

[swift root]

You got dangerously close to heresy there, Mini

[vernal moth]

^^

[potent fossil]

yeah! im a heretic and im on fire!

[swift root]

simple you can say whatever you'd like, I'll always know your heart is pure

[potent fossil]

love u 2

[wispy blade]

[potent fossil]

<@&748618676189528155> self promo (but for a good cause? im conflicted lmao)

[mental meadow]

uh

same lol

I mean I did share a petition yesterday as well

[mossy vessel]

Is fine, is like our equivalent to betterplace.org

[potent fossil]

yea ik its just his specific fundraiser on there, not a general one

but it's w/e was just letting u know, am goin to bed

[mental meadow]

night simple ❤️

[vestal jasper]

night simple

[potent fossil]

nighty

[wispy blade]

[minor badge]

I'll just drop this link instead and delete that: https://www.stjude.org/donate/donate-to-st-jude.html
It seems tiltify gives the creator of fundraisers the money first.

[wispy blade]

yeah, was already sus of that

grr i hate dealing with overflow

[untold copper]

thats what she said

[untold copper]

growing up is cringe lmao

[wispy blade]

imagine being 15 and being more cringe than me

insane.

[untold copper]

literally can't

[wispy blade]

well, apparently you can

[solid sapphire]

hm?

is this normal?

[wispy blade]

yes

100%

[solid sapphire]

like it worked first time

now it wont

[wispy blade]

code stats 📈

[twin lagoon]

i don't think that's the case with tiltify

as you choose one charity with tiltify

we've used tiltify at noxcrew for MCC and i can't imagine it'll send $600k for us to handle, that sounds like a nightmare

https://tiltify.com/explore/causes you have to select from a list of charities aswell which makes sense

[minor badge]

aha interesting

[wispy blade]

wtf

it takes 60 seconds to load a login page

[limber knot]

mfw they list the EFF but not the FSF

I guess organizations have to list themselves or something? FSF probably doesn't like the proprietary-ness of the site lol

[twin lagoon]

they have to list themselves yes

[worn ember]

@twin lagoon i ended up using an iso i got from one drive and used that with VMware instead. I couldn't get vbox to run

Kinda cringe but at least it works. Mostly

[tropic flame]

[untold copper]

what new paint

[charred sleet]

win 11

[mental meadow]

It's new paint

For you room

[worn ember]

*Our room

[untold copper]

@potent fossil just finished watching doctor who 50th anniversary special and my mind is blown lmao

3 doctors all at once

epic

[left swift]

Wtf spoilers bro

[void void]

Banned for spoilers

[untold copper]

day #114 of trying to get abs: no exercise cos exams got over and im really distracted

[solid sapphire]

:fuu: i think i food poisoned myself

[untold copper]

sad

[wispy blade]

did you eat chocolate @solid sapphire

it just started fucking showering outside wtf

[ashen cliff]

Bro.

Go shower then. 🛌

[warm anchor]

True

[solid sapphire]

No

[wispy blade]

already did

this morning

on the bus

someone opened the window and let the rain in

[left swift]

Refreshing

[wispy blade]

no

[heady spear]

@quasi valley is bad

[wispy blade]

stfu city

be nice

[quasi valley]

wtf

[heady spear]

you r not my mom

[wispy blade]

thankfully not

[heady spear]

mommy ?

[left swift]

Sorry

Mommy?

Sorry

[heady spear]

Ew we have a tiktok viewer here

[left swift]

Ur just as gross for recognizing it

[heady spear]

I only know that because poki referenced it

[left swift]

[plucky sparrow]

Ew city is here

[heady spear]

this whole thing is tired and lame, can you find something new & exciting to do?

like idk

shit is just getting stale

[left swift]

U wanna see something good

Look in the mirror

[ashen cliff]

Thanks bro. But I saw a ghost in the back.

It do be good looking.

[wide chasm]

Probably Scroll Lock

[twin lagoon]

menu key

[wispy blade]

scroll lock and pause/break

[warm anchor]

Insert key probably on English keyboard

[wispy blade]

wtf insert hella handy

[twin lagoon]

i guarantee you there is not a single person who has ever used the menu key

[warm anchor]

[wide chasm]

For most people it's probably something like F24, since that isn't on most keyboards

[twin lagoon]

well yes that's cheating

f13 - f24 are useful though, great if you have a macropad

[wide chasm]

The entire numpad for me is also something I rarely use. Not the least used, but still I barely touch that.

[twin lagoon]

the only time i use numpad is in GTA V

[wispy blade]

i used it for modded mc and obs keybinds

[wide chasm]

You guys have all these fancy applications, but my pc can't run any of those 🙂

[warm anchor]

[wispy blade]

your pc runs intellij, right?

[wide chasm]

Yes, it does

[worn ember]

i run intellij on my fridge usually

[wispy blade]

if it runs IJ it runs OBS

[worn ember]

[warm anchor]

big oof

[ashen cliff]

Me working with legacy decides daily.

[worn ember]

i love that canceling an action in explorer takes as long as just letting it do its thing

[lament patio]

Flashbacks to when that started to happen to me a lot one day, turns out an update broke the USB power saving option in the power plans and I had to disable it entirely

[ashen cliff]

At least it's not SMB, that thing crashes forever and never times out.

[worn ember]

its not doing much better atm

[magic river]

My fucking keyboard has an Fn key instead of a second windows key and so I end up hitting that context menu key a lot thinking there must be two windows keys so it has to be that one

Then I remember

[worn ember]

lmao

[wide chasm]

Definitely not, I can't run OBS, but can run IJ fine.

[worn ember]

bruh what the fuk, it takes like 30 seconds to open a folder on my phone storage

[wide chasm]

I think for OBS it's more because of incompatibility rather than actually not meeting the hardware requirements for me, though

[wispy blade]

just download an old version

[magic river]

MTP is kind of shit

I miss the days when the phone would just unmount a partition and expose it to the computer as removable storage it could mount and use however

[worn ember]

doesnt help that my cable is sketchy as fuck, doesnt work half the time

i think thats what my phone does

[magic river]

With the encryption and other security things on a phone these days that wouldn't really work

Not to mention people want to be able to use their phone while plugged in to a computer

[wide chasm]

If I needed OBS, I guess I could give that a shot

[worn ember]

i'm just trying to copy 30gb worth of memes lol

[formal turret]

'memes'

[magic river]

Lots of small files? See you tomorrow

[worn ember]

around 7mins lol

[worn ember]

my homework folder

[formal turret]

yep yep

[magic river]

If I tried stashing porn in a "homework" folder my parents would have looked in there to make sure I was doing my homework 😛

Well, probably not since I had my own computer when I was like 13 and they didn't ever look at what I was doing on there since whenever I tried to explain they couldn't understand it 😛

[worn ember]

yeah same

they never really cared what i did on my pc

[toxic bone]

imagine organizing your files

my (actual) homework is scattered across my pc and it's a pain to find when I need it

[ashen cliff]

Everything.

[merry talon]

Not to mention lightning still being USB 2.0

[warm anchor]

@twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

[wispy blade]

[toxic bone]

no more

!

[spiral robin]

@warm anchor 😔

[warm anchor]

Hi aber

Why so sad

[spiral robin]

stupid people

dont understand that our codebase has to be modernized

they dont like change

[warm anchor]

Be the change you wanna be 😉

What could go wrong? At worse you would just be homeless on LA strip.

[spiral robin]

the thing is we are equals on the project, my opinion shouldnt necessarily override theirs

if im homeless on skit row in LA, could i crash on your couch for a bit

[wide chasm]

shouldnt necessarily
In other words, you can override theirs 😉

[spiral robin]

youre right :p

just dont want to overstep

[warm anchor]

No risk no reward 😉

[toxic bone]

Ok!

[spiral robin]

thanks for your helpful contribution to this conversation we are trying to have

[digital oak]

Is papermc in anyway multithreaded?

[wide chasm]

Parts of the codebase are, yes.

[warm anchor]

Yes

[worn ember]

man why are friends always so annoying to make plans with
you ask them something and they're like "yeah whatever we'll see" 3hours before the event

[spiral robin]

TRUE

those people grind my gears

[digital oak]

part of the code base what is using multi thread what is not

world, player / entity

or ?

[worn ember]

yeah... we're supposed to be in ghent at like 8pm from what i've been told and no one knows jack shit of how people are getting there xD

its 6:20pm now

[toxic bone]

No

[worn ember]

[wide chasm]

Chunk loading, chat, probably others I'm forgetting

[fossil patio]

generation and lighting

networking obviously

[wispy blade]

ofc, you can't not do networking off the main thread

[wide chasm]

Well, I mean...

You could if you really want to

[fossil patio]

with non blocking io you could, it wouldn't be the worst

but with the amount of processing you're doing on packets it makes no sense to not thread it

[wispy blade]

exactly

[hexed dragon]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-21w39a

[unkempt drift]

huh, server bundling changes

[hexed dragon]

lonely r

[tacit fern]

r

[void void]

what happened here

[toxic bone]

threatening

[void void]

Where is this screenshot from?

[vernal moth]

I would guess they fully embrace JMS for java 17?

[magic river]

Is that a cloudflare dashboard or windows defender? 😛

[void void]

I love cloudflare

It's so fucking good, and free

Speaking of

Does anyone here have users who cannot connect using a forwarded port using cloudflare? Mostly if they use a cracked client called tlauncher

They can only connect using ip:realport

[warm anchor]

You can buy them a legit copy of Minecraft to fix this issue

[void void]

We are talking about cheap bastards

They would sell the account and keep using the cracked client

[warm anchor]

They can play in other server then 🤷‍♂️

[void void]

I believe in letting poor people play too :/

[void void]

CF

[void void]

Daily/weekly?

This was all in a single day

~2 weeks ago

Wow

But wait

Are they stupid?

If what's behind cloudflare is not a website

They can easily find out the real ip and attack directly

3mil requests seem to have gone through

i now have a 500mb log file

[compact pulsar]

They should upgrade to Java 17, Java 16 is not good as it is not an LTS release

[golden gust]

LTS is irrelevant

[compact pulsar]

I know

[magic river]

They might move to 17 and stay there or they might just upgrade Java with every release

[compact pulsar]

Upgrading Java version every year is not too good for some people

They should stay in LTS version :/

[magic river]

We're already at the end of updates for Java 16 btw

[golden gust]

I mean

[compact pulsar]

Yeah

[golden gust]

if you can't maintain your shit, don't run a server, ez

[magic river]

So they have to move to 17 at least

[keen frost]

As I like to say, “if you can’t maintain your shit, you’re shit”

[magic river]

Although I suppose they're probably just using Microsoft's JVM builds for their bundled version and can get them to provide security updates until they move

[compact pulsar]

Hmm

[keen frost]

Moood

[magic river]

Goal selector optimizations

I can't believe we had all of those prefixed with 'Pathfinder' btw, awful naming

[keen frost]

That said, it is nice to be able to use the new features gained by staging up to date

[magic river]

Probably should have fixed that when we renamed NetServerHandler and the other crap

[golden gust]

Don't worry

[magic river]

Doesn't matter anymore since you use Mojang names but yeah

[golden gust]

We shall forever hold your naming of stuff as the forefront of any decisions we make in regards to your contribution to the community

[magic river]

To be fair I think those were named in the last update Dinnerbone and/or Grum did

They were added in 1.2, 1.3 was our first update I think

We joined in time for 1.2.5 but I think they did that one too before heading out

[golden gust]

it's the one thing which annoyed me the most with stuff like CBs and spigots mappings is that they were basically sealed behind closed doors

I mean, I wasn't really active in the community then so it's mostly the retrospect of, "woulda been nice to have them"

spigot at least publishes theres but that was more of a forced hand rather than a "We're gonna be nice"

not like he lets anybody touch them anyways

But, am not sure there has ever been a super amazing community entrusted set of mappings

[magic river]

iirc we didn't publish ours at first because hmod forks were using them

Then it was just inertia and then spigot

[golden gust]

MCP and now fabric is probs the best we've ever had, but, they're just never gonna be something that people super care about until they do

[magic river]

If MCP had updated their mapping faster we probably would have just switched

But they were also holding them back until certain mods using them could be updated

[golden gust]

Yea, That's the thing with MCP is that it's still heavily centralised

[magic river]

I think ModLoader and then Forge

And they just took longer to update

[golden gust]

yup

I mean, it was still primarily an effort of like 1 or 2 people on it, community based stuff only really came later on, which I mean, I get it as it's not like we where working off a stable base and you don't want 200 people all running over the same files at the same time, etc; am just glad we have mojmap now

[magic river]

I think a few of those releases were mostly just me with feildmaster doing a couple tricky classes he knew best and Wolv doing new API, testing, and fixes

But the last one or two were a bunch of people

[potent fossil]

i really need to stay out of youtube's comments. absolutely filled to the brim with ivan level brains

i commented on a video of linus torvalds giving a talk, and he mentioned a fake scenario of a library where only 2 ppl use it, one's the maintainer and one's crazy. i commented how that was funny, someone replied asking what library it is, i replied back saying it's just a fake scenario. this was like 6-7 months ago

[upbeat falcon]

message.txt by @golden gust: https://paste.gg/9a5865cd012a421aa308029d7d6ae1ac

[potent fossil]

to this day i still get people replying to it telling me im not a real programmer because this is a real thing that happens, it's not fake

[golden gust]

I, er, forgot the newlines, so, erm... enjoy that

[potent fossil]

very nice

[void void]

who's ivan

[potent fossil]

just search ivan in the searchbar

he started yatopia

[south matrix]

glad this was high on their priority list https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-116359...

[potent fossil]

lul

[void void]

MrIvanPlays?

[potent fossil]

yup

[golden gust]

I mean, dinnerbone is back

[potent fossil]

dinnerbone left?

[golden gust]

he's working heavily on the smaller "nitpick" style issues as he gets back into the swing

So, yea, all of the none important but somewhat highly annoying stuff is getting attention

he took a year MH break

[potent fossil]

ahh good for him

[south matrix]

nitpick issues like this https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-122477? 👀

[golden gust]

I mean, if it's not too mentally stenous or time consuming, 🤷‍♂️

he had a twitter post where he was kinda discussing it and I think people where pitching stuff to look at

[waxen panther]

why are you even complaining lol

[potent fossil]

me: needs to do physics badly

also me: no. ill look at adhd memes instead

[waxen panther]

who cares what he wants to fix

[potent fossil]

brocco is cute

[waxen panther]

simple is cuter

[potent fossil]

[toxic bone]

🔫

[potent fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/runover-kid-child-road-kill-running-over-gif-5744950

me to you

[toxic bone]

that might be illegal in some places

[potent fossil]

don't care

[toxic bone]

Mario cookie

[golden gust]

Yea, but, only get in trouble if they catch you

[merry talon]

classic adhd

specialist apparently sent no info to my doctor so he has to contact them now

I just want my free meth 😵‍💫

[potent fossil]

lol

[potent fossil]

did they tell you what type of adhd it was

[merry talon]

Yeah it's primarily inattentive

[potent fossil]

oof

[merry talon]

was just reading that you have the same

[potent fossil]

combined

[merry talon]

o

[potent fossil]

i mean, yeah. mostly inattentive ig

[golden gust]

ur not a valid person anyways

[unkempt drift]

while you're at it, update gson

[golden gust]

#gottem