general

[waxen panther]

@viral hornet

[warm anchor]

Ticket v6

[plucky sparrow]

Who wants to be my representative

[warm anchor]

When?

[waxen panther]

next week

[lean kiln]

what are you pinging @viral hornet for @waxen panther

[waxen panther]

camm will defend me

[wispy blade]

i'll gladly contribute

[waxen panther]

camm is based

[lean kiln]

tickets is based I have starred it on github

[warm anchor]

Wow

[wispy blade]

star monkeModMail? 🥺

[warm anchor]

Jmp star should count for 10

[potent panther]

@waxen panther i am useless and have to leave papermc discord?

[warm anchor]

Coz Jmp epic

[wispy blade]

Fact!

[potent panther]

@waxen panther Am I considered as useless and it would be better to leave papermc discord?

[wispy blade]

@potent panther cannot be more useless than me

[waxen panther]

stop spamming

what do you want

be here or dont

[wispy blade]

literally misses deodorant spray 5x in a row

[potent panther]

thanks

[plucky sparrow]

can u code bedwars 2.0 plugin for me?? 🛢️

[viral hornet]

??????

[potent panther]

depends on the simplicity of bedwars 2.0

[twin lagoon]

camm 🥺

[mossy vessel]

@viral hornet best camm??

[viral hornet]

[plucky sparrow]

very simple

[viral hornet]

BEST nmf

[plucky sparrow]

just a few lines of code

[waxen panther]

bedwars 5.0

[plucky sparrow]

BedWars plugin = new BedWars();

[wispy blade]

@viral hornet check src/main/java/online/monkegame/utils/SuspicionLevel.java
on https://github.com/monkegame/monkeModMail bro.

[plucky sparrow]

plugin.start();

[potent panther]

plugin.stop();

[wispy blade]

no

you do that in onDisable

smh

[waxen panther]

why are all your variables one letter long lmfao

[wispy blade]

i am lazy

[plucky sparrow]

@wispy blade why do u use submit()

U dingus

Use queue()

[wispy blade]

submit() works >:c

[plucky sparrow]

Queue is better

[potent panther]

use more than 26 variables

[wispy blade]

no

[wispy blade]

explain.

[plucky sparrow]

Async

[wispy blade]

hm, good point

[potent panther]

do you also do 1 letter functions?

[wispy blade]

no, i'm not completely insane

[potent panther]

ok

[potent fossil]

i do emoji functions https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/HeBJe2WT0qZO1ppELgxkDVMCNuR9fZbCrPaCm1a-N3U/https/i.imgur.com/WtEeFa8.jpg?width=922&height=702

[potent panther]

but 1 letter classes?

[wispy blade]

no

[potent panther]

no pls

[wispy blade]

i would like to know what my functions and classes do thx

[plucky sparrow]

Also can you pls name your variables something better ☹️

Use actual names

[waxen panther]

i would like to know what your variables are 😁

[wispy blade]

they are defined.

[potent panther]

funny

[plucky sparrow]

Psychopath

Look at those variable names

Oh lord

[waxen panther]

c g p

[plucky sparrow]

user -> a

😭

[waxen panther]

a for author bro

PERFECTLY clear

[plucky sparrow]

I wouldn’t even remember those variable names

[wispy blade]

they're mnemonics

[waxen panther]

[lean kiln]

they probably couldn't afford a proguard license

[plucky sparrow]

I name mine “author”, “channel”, “cuteString”

[potent panther]

oh no i rembered the sus word

[waxen panther]

self obfuscation

[plucky sparrow]

Not a, g, p, a

Death

[wispy blade]

dude

i am lazy

and mnemonics WORK

[potent panther]

use macros?

[plucky sparrow]

I also dislike your command system ☹️

[waxen panther]

good job your ide would suggest you better names

[wispy blade]

i hate it too

[plucky sparrow]

Are you really using a switch as a command system, all on a single class? 😭😭😭

[wispy blade]

yes.

[plucky sparrow]

This is a hate crime

[wispy blade]

nope, just lack of having seen a better system

[plucky sparrow]

As a bot developer I’m heavily offended

It’s so easy to create a command manager that will make your commands look fancy and cute

[wispy blade]

send code then

[plucky sparrow]

I’m not on pc smh

[waxen panther]

just use cloud 4head

[plucky sparrow]

no

I store my stuff on my hdd

[waxen panther]

no

im talking about the cloud command library

[plucky sparrow]

Oh

Well

[wispy blade]

we are talking about discord commands

dum vegtebal

[waxen panther]

cloud has a discord module

that i wrote

you're the dumb one

[plucky sparrow]

Btw @wispy blade there’s a library for commands in jda

Not just commands

[potent panther]

i reeanabled notifiactions on papermc

[plucky sparrow]

It’s called jda-utilities

[wispy blade]

will take a peek then

[wispy blade]

true but why would i use a minecraft command framework in a discord bot

[waxen panther]

what

cloud is a generic command library for anything

actually though please do not use cloud

[plucky sparrow]

Why no download

[wispy blade]

nobody want it :(

[plucky sparrow]

aw

😔☹️

Wait it is?

I don’t use it but I thought it was maintained, they have a whole channel for it in the jda discord

[wispy blade]

switch is still a decent secondary solution and you cannot prove me wrong 😤

[plucky sparrow]

No it’s not

It’s ugly

[wispy blade]

ugly != bad

[plucky sparrow]

Ugly makes your code look bad

Well the variables make it worse

[wispy blade]

we do not talk about the variable names in any of my programs

[plucky sparrow]

We do

I’m not sure if you could call those letters names

[potent fossil]

I'm trying to get a really repetitive task done fairly quickly but I need to switch between windows and input focus. So got a text editor (vscode) and my web browser on another monitor. After each step I need to change the URL but in a predictable way.

What can I do on my keyboard (if anything?? idk) to switch between the window without having to alt-tab through every app and also when going to web browser to focus the end of the address bar so I can change the param in it?

Prob noob question but teach a man to fish and he eats for life i guess lol

basically dont wanna use mouse for this over and over

[wispy blade]

i think you can alt tab (number)

not sure

[brave radish]

you can use ctrl+l to enter the address bar and the end key if your keyboard has one to go to the end of the line

(p sure that works on Chromium but not sure)

[potent fossil]

thank you jesus yep that works

ok let me try the alt tab thing

hm nope

i mean i can tab multiple times but would rather just focus directly back to vscode with hopefully 1 or 2 keys not tab 6 times

[brave radish]

oh you're on Windows yes? or your Mac?

[potent fossil]

atm yes

windows

[wispy blade]

you can take these to make up for it :)

[brave radish]

yeah then idk a faster way to switch

[potent fossil]

rip well alright, thanks

the address bar one works well

[plucky sparrow]

Are you storing a duration in a string

[wispy blade]

nope

it's literally "Average duration: "

[plucky sparrow]

Still ugly names

[wispy blade]

yes

because i made those strings at like 1 am

[plucky sparrow]

So what

It’s ugly

[potent fossil]

alright alt-tab works well and so does ctrl+l end. thank god this is gonna be much quicker. thanks peeps

[wispy blade]

1 am's past peak programming hrs

[plucky sparrow]

I refuse to believe that you can properly name variables

[wispy blade]

you may believe so

[plucky sparrow]

I’m sure

[wispy blade]

brb adding comments to explain the naming of each variable

[limber knot]

I fork what

[wispy blade]

fork jda utilities

[mighty storm]

Oh Yee

My only appreciated work so far

[wispy blade]

hi ch e w

[mighty storm]

i dashes

[wispy blade]

my only appreciated work is my discord bot because it does some cool stuff 😳

[mighty storm]

All mine has goin is the Rory command

[plucky sparrow]

@wispy blade

I will personally find you and then I will bury you alive

WHY

WHY

Why do you have to specify the name of the role

Why can’t you just get the message mentions

[mighty storm]

My dude forgot about slashcommand mentionable

[wispy blade]

because, like i've said before: i'm lazy

[plucky sparrow]

No your system is not good

[mighty storm]

message.getMentionedRoles()

[wispy blade]

but thanks for the suggestion

:)

[plucky sparrow]

Why are you storing the name

Use role ids 😭

[wispy blade]

ok, will do

just create one giant issue on github with all nitpicks and i'll check it tmr

[plucky sparrow]

No

Go over your code

Repent for your sins

Start a new life

[wispy blade]

already do, everytime i touch java

or any programming/scripting language for that matter

but yeah idk what i was thinking with the role thing

that's actually such a dumb thing to miss

[plucky sparrow]

It’s ok

Everyone makes mistakes

[wispy blade]

except i am 100% mistake and brainless

[plucky sparrow]

No you’re just unique

Special some would say

[wispy blade]

:')

still the only one at monkegame that knows java 😔

[native wolf]

It happens

I was editing a webpage once and i was frustrated because it wasn't updating

Well i was dumb and didn't even reload the page lol

[wispy blade]

happens

that's why you use a live testing server

vscode has a nice extension for it

[native wolf]

Yep

I use WebStorm now and it has a live server integrated

[brave radish]

I wish WebStorm were open source :(

[native wolf]

Oh hi ZCM

[wispy blade]

oh yeah fuuuuck i have to make a nice website for myself still

[native wolf]

Haven't seen you on Discord in a while

[wispy blade]

HATE css

[brave radish]

yeah was doing stuff irl

[brave radish]

really can we start it over from scratch?

[native wolf]

Same, it's so stupid sometimes

And JS is even worse when you get into libraries and frameworks and stuff

[wispy blade]

node 🤮

[brave radish]

?

what's wrong with Node?

[native wolf]

Node itself isn't bad

[wispy blade]

shit eats my C: drive like it's candy

[wispy blade]

and also node-gyp doesnt want to run anything for whatever reason

[vestal jasper]

Node gyp fucking sucks

Especially on windows

[warm anchor]

https://wiki.theory.org/YourLanguageSucks

[tropic flame]

is if (i < 5) faster than if (i <= 4) in Java? I can only find an answer for C, which says that the only difference is the instruction for the operator at assembly level and that they both execute at the same speed (in x86 at least). What about in the JVM?

[ancient bolt]

No. Also not any different in C

older compilers targeting older processors could potentially have small improvements in C, but that hasn't been true for a long long time

[tropic flame]

alright, thanks!

[plain cypress]

here's something i found out the hard way with the oracle always free tier

just thought i'd post here because i've seen some of you talking about it

i was able to delete my first instance without deleting the boot volume, then i just made a new instance with that previous boot volume (so my config and servers stayed intact, I just had to get a new public IP)

[warm anchor]

yeah most us are way passed the 30 day already

[peak ginkgo]

@warm anchor i need a ping subscription service on san jose avail

[warm anchor]

In theory, you can automate a script to check it for you daily but I think that's a bit of overkill

[plain cypress]

I made my account only a few days after the announcement, I just passed the grace period now

[warm anchor]

huh what announcement lol

[plain cypress]

the ampere a1 being available

[warm anchor]

That was back in May

[plain cypress]

Yeah

Apparently it took nearly a month for the grace period to end

[warm anchor]

huh

Trial is 30 days

[plain cypress]

yeah

Would you happen to know if an instance would be disabled if it was recreated during the grace period? I'm planning on helping a friend setup an account soonish

[warm anchor]

I have trouble understand what you mean by grace period

[brave radish]

https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/api/#/en/iaas/20160918/Instance/LaunchInstance seems simple enough

[warm anchor]

You should be able to grab the instance right after you provide the payment info and trial starts

wow chicken man it's now your duty to make a working tool

you know like those RX3080 checker

better yet if you host the tool using their free cloud

LOL

[brave radish]

lol yes "Oracle Cloud Monitor - Hosted on Oracle Cloud"
what could go wrong?

[plain cypress]

okay they sent me a 'trial expired' email on June 28th, and in the more recent 'grace period ended' email it says the trial ended July 27th??

I'm confused

[brave radish]

how many processors and how much RAM did you have on your instance?

[plain cypress]

4 cores, and I think I started with 24gb but then I changed it to be lower, then higher (but still below 24gb the entire time)

[warm anchor]

Your trial starts the moment your payment method is verifed.
You get one email on the 23th day (7 days before trial end) reassuring that there will be no service interruption.
You get one final email on the 30th day (trial ends)

There is no grace period of any sort.

[brave radish]

I got no emails ever 👀

[warm anchor]

It may not be available to you due to the node being out of free slots.

[plain cypress]

There is a grace period, let me see if I can find an article on it. I could probably also screenshot the email I got

https://www.oracle.com/cloud/free/faq.html#:~:text=What happens after Free Trial,date to upgrade to paid.

[warm anchor]

Yeah that's for if you ever used the "free credit" provided

it has nothing to do with the Ampere instance offering

[plain cypress]

idfk
Maybe me changing the RAM made it not always free

Even though it was still under the 24gb limit

That's my only guess at this point

I assume this never happened to you?

[peak dirge]

That being said, I'm tempted to move stuff to Oracle Cloud

I've always had an interest in Arm server instances and even though I hate Oracle, AWS EC2 is just too expensive

[brave radish]

wow it's Tux

also yeah hating Oracle is an advantage when it's a free service you can use to take money away from them

[peak dirge]

As I mentioned elsewhere though, it’s actually intentional

The purpose of the generous free tier is to get developers in to try all of the Oracle Cloud services. They hope a lot of people will bite. It’s a loss leader for a reason. It generates goodwill for Oracle and gets the word out. It’s a very smart move.

[brave radish]

Yeah I mean it's fairly good pricing even outside of the free tier (for the A1 instances at least)

[warm anchor]

That's correct. Tux you should be hired as PR!

@brave radish espically they have REALLY obsurd regions such as in Mumbai and south africa

region over there has really little choices when it comes to service like this

[true canyon]

Good will for Oracle? Oh boy do they have a lot of work ahead...

[peak dirge]

I’m quite aware of that lol

[warm anchor]

L O L

[peak dirge]

But you can bet they’re trying hard.

[warm anchor]

They are kinda late to the market so they put in a good amount of money for it

AWS is like lightyear ahead of them

[plain cypress]

eternity, did your instances get disabled after 30 days? Really sorry to bother, just want to see if it's just an issue only I had lol

[warm anchor]

nope

[peak dirge]

AWS is stagnating in my opinion

[warm anchor]

@plain cypress proof

[plain cypress]

I'm pretty sure it was just me changing the RAM amount, then. Thanks for your time!

[warm anchor]

52 days ( I removed mine somewhere in the middle to reinstall stuff)

RAM amount should matter. The free limit is done by the CPU hours so you can either get 1 instance of 4core 24GB RAM or 4 instances of 1core 6GB RAMs

combined total cannot excess 4c and 24g rams for it to qualify for free

[peak dirge]

They’re still the market leader by far, but Azure is eating enterprise customers away and Oracle seems happy to eat the more casual customers in the hopes they evangelicize the Oracle Cloud offering. It worked for DigitalOcean after all.

[warm anchor]

I mean yeah if they play the card right

The more players in the market, the better for the consumers 👍

[brave radish]

I feel like Oracle's real PR team just watches the Paper Discord and thinks "gottum"

hi @ oracle 👋

[static badge]

hey oracle

[plain cypress]

I only had one instance though, and it always stayed below 24gb allocated. I don't know what happened there lol.

[brave radish]

...I'm waiting for the insult

[plain cypress]

I'm not worried about it at this point, I'll just recommend to others not to mess with the shape settings in the future

[static badge]

you're an insult

[warm anchor]

Leaf cant insult me I was even talking about anime

[peak dirge]

Hi Oracle, please don't sue us with your massive legal team!

[static badge]

weeb garbage

[warm anchor]

oh shit Tux there's an audit your way

[peak dirge]

And we're out $200k in Oracle database licenses. Crap.

[warm anchor]

[brave radish]

Tux did you use their precious JDK builds without a subscription 👀

[peak dirge]

nope

OpenJDK builds from Red Hat and AdoptOpenJDK

And I use Azul Zulu on my M1 MBP

[brave radish]

it'd honestly be funny if they started trying to stop people from using it commercially

[peak dirge]

java.vm.vendor=Red Hat, Inc.

And my distro, well... Fedora release 34 (Thirty Four)

[brave radish]

adoptopenjdk looks nicer but ok sure change names for no reason :(

Useless name changes annoy me; now thousands of developers have to change all their projects to say "temurin" just because Eclipse decided so

[peak dirge]

Because of high demand for Arm Ampere A1 Compute capacity in the US West (Phoenix), US East (Ashburn), Germany Central (Frankfurt), South Korea Central (Seoul), Japan Central (Osaka), Japan East (Tokyo), and South Korea North (Chuncheon) regions, A1 instance availability in these regions is limited. If you plan to create A1 instances, we recommend choosing another region as your home region.

oh boy

[brave radish]

Because of high demand for Arm Ampere A1 Compute capacity, A1 instance availability on the planet Earth regions is limited. If you plan to create A1 instances, we recommend choosing another region as your home region.

[peak dirge]

Southeastern USA

[warm anchor]

Early Ashburn enjoyer here

Damn that warning is getting a lot bigger when I first did mine only the west coast nodes are full and Japan

[peak dirge]

I guess Toronto is really my only option, and I guess the 51ms latency isn't terrible

Better than the only other US region with capacity, which is San Jose

[warm anchor]

@static badge

[static badge]

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[warm anchor]

[static badge]

[plain cypress]

how long have they had san jose as a region for the ampere a1? my friend signed up at the same time I did with san jose selected, and it wasn't listed on their support page as one

[warm anchor]

They've updated a lot in the last two month that's for sure

[austere ivy]

you're not a real developer unless you only use ed

[warm anchor]

that's why there is discrepancy between the original blog post and the actual steps.

[plain cypress]

cool alright
hopefully he'll be able to finally make an instance for himself now

[warm anchor]

I mean 50~100 ms isnt bad

[brave radish]

how'd you measure that, out of curiosity? just realizing their firewall rules block ping by default

[plain cypress]

I made one in a region that wasn't optimal for latency, because it was listed on their support doc while my preferred one wasn't yet
too bad I can't move it (unless you're able to now?)

[peak dirge]

Just got my instance spawned... it is actually an AMD EPYC one

welp

[warm anchor]

wait the ampere option wasnt available for you?

that's the good one

[peak dirge]

there we go

I went with the defaults kek

[brave radish]

cat why are you awake lol

[warm anchor]

You will need to change it Tux

go try!

[peak dirge]

yeah I saw now

[warm anchor]

coz the epyc one has only 1 core 😒

[peak dirge]

Anyway, free tier is going to be pretty good for cutting down on the "rent someone else's computer" habit a bit

And as I said that, I just realized I had some DigitalOcean server running since late October of last year, untouched. I wasted $80 on it.

Yoinked it, but never a fun surprise to find.

[warm anchor]

this thing is a beast too.

[peak dirge]

$10 per month in a thing I didn't use.

[warm anchor]

go through your credit card statments and cut out the subscriptions

[peak dirge]

I use a budgeting app

[warm anchor]

This reminds me of that story about someone paying for aol for decades without knowing

Which one you used? Tux

I still have a custom made (for myself) excel for budgeting lol

[peak dirge]

https://www.youneedabudget.com/

It's subscription based, but the subscription is absolutely worth the $83.99 yearly price.

[warm anchor]

Nice. I will check it out

[peak dirge]

You will be able to pay for it out of the savings you can make

[little frost]

so much oracle shilling here recently so i try out the cloud thing and the signup doesn't even work 👏

[peak dirge]

In fact, the two ghost charges I had from DigitalOcean and Google Cloud that I whacked was enough to pay for YNAB

[merry talon]

lol I don't understand how someone could be paying monthly for something they aren't aware of

I get notifications for every charge

[peak dirge]

That was $17 per month, or $204 per year.

[peak dirge]

I do get them, but I wind up ignoring them. I'm a busy guy and rarely have time to sit down and really think about this stuff.

Working on some more changes. Too late for me to downgrade to Nitro Classic as I only wanted the emote stuff and was charged this month, but I have now

But that's a nice $50/year savings

$5/mo Linode running for 2 months and not used. lol.

That's now a $314 per year savings from looking at my crap

Already paid for itself almost 4 times.

Alright, so I trimmed ~$32/mo in recurring expenses.

Good stuff.

I'll make sure to funnel this surplus into my investment accounts.

[warm anchor]

You can always outsource this cost to your community "Whoever donates Nitro has a chance to get their [Velocity] question answered"

the beauty of that is you only gonna take time to answer ONE questions but I am sure with how big velocity is now, you will get mutiple Nitro donations lol

[static badge]

is that how you run your community

you fucking degenerate weeaboo trash

[warm anchor]

zzzz

no I wouild not do such things

that's just soemthing I learn from the other community

I mean it is really harmless its not like you turn around and sell those ntiro from donations

[static badge]

the other weeb communities?

not shocking

[warm anchor]

well that's generally the patreon route of things

or more so Onlyfans

[static badge]

weebs aren't on onlyfans

[warm anchor]

"pay to get a chance for a request" not even guaranteed

I mean the model

stop picking on me leaf! or I will expose your furry to MORE people!

[static badge]

try

you're just a weeb

nothing more

[warm anchor]

true. I think everyone in MC already knew

leaf = furry

[rotund portal]

I dont think this is a paper problem so not posting in paper help but does anyone know why level-seed= is not in my server.properties

that makes a lot of sense, ty for the help

[limpid comet]

sup gnerds

[warm anchor]

hi bluely

[limpid comet]

hi etertnity

how are you

[warm anchor]

not bad. Getting ready to sleeeeeeeeeeep

you??

[limpid comet]

myself as well

its a nice cool night

[untold copper]

idk lmao

not really, doing it for myself as well

[warm anchor]

snoopa is in the horny stage now?

[untold copper]

wut

[toxic bone]

This is the first thing I saw when I clicked on general

I don't know what this means, and I don't want to know.

[warm anchor]

The guy name Snoopa. He's horny @toxic bone I hope that explains it

[untold copper]

...

[toxic bone]

This is a ton of information, a lot more than I had before.

[untold copper]

shut

[toxic bone]

🤨

[rocky scroll]

Hi there ppl, anyone have experience with JavaFX? Feel free to ping or dm, thank you

[minor badge]

@potent fossil helo

[potent fossil]

helo

[minor badge]

good morning

[void void]

[vapid hinge]

ello 🙂

i have a question

how do i see all the plugins

[lean kiln]

wat

you mean like the /plugins command?

[vapid hinge]

?

i am making a server

with paper mc

i dont know any plugins to add

cus i cant find

[lean kiln]

oh

you can look on the spigot resources page or bukkit

paper works with spigot/bukkit plugins in general as long as they are up to date

[vapid hinge]

ok

[lean kiln]

#paper-help if you have more questions

[vapid hinge]

thx

[lean kiln]

yw

[vestal jasper]

thx @lean kiln

[lean kiln]

yw

@vestal jasper

[vestal jasper]

@lean kiln

[lean kiln]

#general @vestal jasper

[vestal jasper]

Sorry I go

Ok hi

@lean kiln !

[lean kiln]

[vestal jasper]

[lean kiln]

you're trolling me

[vestal jasper]

Perfect discussion

[waxen panther]

Perfect discussion

[lean kiln]

shouldn't you be managing services

[waxen panther]

I am managing your service

[vestal jasper]

Imagine being someone else and trying to make sense of this conversation

[lean kiln]

get back to work

[vestal jasper]

We must look insane

[waxen panther]

We are insane

[vestal jasper]

True

[warm anchor]

Looks like I am the only normal person in this hour

sigh

[merry talon]

dude i never knew how much data my watch could actually collect about a workout

[warm anchor]

Apple Watch?

[merry talon]

It knows every aspect of how I run and tells me exactly where I can improve

galaxy watch active2

[warm anchor]

That’s nice

[merry talon]

I never used to wear it because I thought my phone was good enough

[warm anchor]

Pretty sexy ngl

[cosmic raft]

@potent fossil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbiyKJchkEY

[cedar spade]

@waxen panther

[waxen panther]

Hi there service manager reporting in

How may I help

[cedar spade]

I would like service please

[wispy blade]

why are you below core team @waxen panther

[waxen panther]

i decided to let them handle the pings

[cedar spade]

Excuse me where is my service?

[golden gust]

Do you have a reservation?

[vernal moth]

lmao fuck airbnb

https://i.imgur.com/iWsnN6H.png

[quasi valley]

lmao wot hiding reviews

[golden gust]

gg

[quasi valley]

inb4 "awful germans"

[golden gust]

I mean, odd, somewhat dumb that you have no means to really respond to the contents of the review, I mean, I guess if shit went sideways it's good to just say that shit when sideways, knowing who to eer with in these cases where both give a negative review is pretty shoddy

But, I mean, I'd much rather stay at a hotel than airbnb, tbqh

[vernal moth]

oh it was fucking great

igor was the nicest person ever

check-in was 16, we arrived at 12, he said like, no problem, ill just leave the doors open and come by later to show you everything, lol

and he gave us this amazing cheese and wine, we brought 10kg (4 wheels) of it to take home, lmao

[ancient bolt]

I thought it was good design on airbnb. Means you will write an honest review by itself, not biased from what the other person said

[vernal moth]

I guess

its just really strange

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/3559301

this is where we stayed, it was really nice

[potent fossil]

[quasi valley]

looks really nice

sounds like you had nice vacations :p

[vernal moth]

I had

I even got a bit of a tan

[wispy blade]

MiniTan :p

[vernal moth]

you wouldn't notice until I pull down my pans, cause then you see how white as fuck I am normally, but still 😄

[quasi valley]

hahaha

the trick is to just not get any tan, so you don't have that line on your lower body/arms

[vernal moth]

no lines on arms

cause I mostly didn't wear a t-shirt, lmao

I got a nice white spot where my watch is however 😄

[wispy blade]

good job

[rich cove]

Is there a plugin that lets items stay forever in one particular spot if you die?
I don't mean a temporary time limit I mean infinitely

Like DeathChest but without the time limit

[magic sand]

😑

[rich cove]

I would also make that face if Minecraft Steve lost his fifth letter

[pine gate]

any one of here knows a discord server support for authme or something?

[wispy blade]

there is

probably a link to it on the github page

[surreal zinc]

Who knows minecraft hosting server can 100 players without lag?

[golden gust]

modern MC sucks at high player counts

i forgot the two hosts that's generally recommended here, but, your configuration matters at much there

[low niche]

Hey, I've added you.

[wispy blade]

bloomhost and dedicatedmc cat

[golden gust]

Read the rules, this is not the place for solicitation

[ashen cliff]

[robust plank]

Test

any1 have world edit plugins ?

[wispy blade]

enginehub has worldedit

[waxen panther]

Do not use the summer host

[quasi valley]

summer hosts best hosts

@waxen panther wanna make a summer host with me

[waxen panther]

Yes bro we charge custom $4 a month for a6800x

[queen tusk]

It's a tag

[limber knot]

no, the keys are in the namespace of your plugin

and they are in the BukkitPublicValues namespace, just look at an item with it

[warm anchor]

Not without major compromises. With default high 60 to 70 is the ceilings

[untold copper]

@vernal moth @warm anchor @worn ember and finally @potent fossil

this is what i have

till now

[warm anchor]

[untold copper]

not bad eh

[worn ember]

fap arm

[untold copper]

...

ur mom

[golden gust]

Post lockdown snoopa

[untold copper]

lmao

not really tho, i can feel some light abs

very slight

but yes they're definitely there

[warm anchor]

Snoopa

just measure your overall strength

those very defined muscle lines are result of cutting and dehydration and really is mainly for shows

[untold copper]

mk

day #56 of trying to get abs: 50 minute upper body workout. my arms are dying pls help

[quasi valley]

day #🇽🇩 part 9 of trying to get abs: Pack. and get dressed. Befoooooore your faaaather heeeeeears us. Before. all hell. breaks loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose

good ping

[warm anchor]

smh Mini

[vernal moth]

Looking good @untold copper

In other news, discords mobile app is still a clusterfuck

[untold copper]

tysm uwu

[vernal moth]

I forgot how young you are, lmao

[plucky sparrow]

Why’s that

[vernal moth]

If you @, and start tying, and press something, it will change what's on top while you press

[plucky sparrow]

The iOS discord app works perfectly fine for me

[potent panther]

instead o using a single server but with multiple worlds use multiple servers with one or two worlds with waterfall that will make the player count be able to be a lot higher because minecraft servers usually don't want to use all the cores

[golden gust]

The apps are broken as all shit in varying dozens of different ways and it's amazing

[plucky sparrow]

Honestly I’m tired of discord’s design

Been using it for over four years and it’s gotten so boring ☹️

I’ve even considered light mode just so it feels different

[untold copper]

yes mini why

plij explan

[plucky sparrow]

Yes

Step One: stop using chrome

Omg I know how to fight my boredom

I’m gonna install Fedora on my hackintosh

Wish me luck

[worn ember]

why do i still even touch this thing xD

[warm anchor]

hold up

[rapid bough]

?? are you flexing?

[wispy blade]

@untold copper

git fukt

[rapid bough]

..

what are you guys flexing

[wispy blade]

joe

[rapid bough]

whos joe

[wispy blade]

joe mama

[rapid bough]

dies

[worn ember]

[untold copper]

oof

nice i guess

[rapid bough]

snoopa

why do u have a big as veins in your elbow

[worn ember]

yeah snoopa explain your genetics to us

[rapid bough]

yes

[warm anchor]

@rapid bough this pic explains it really well

[rapid bough]

ejaculating?

that was a good episode

my arm muscle also increased exponentially during covid

but for other reasons

not that stuff

i stubbed my toe

ow

[worn ember]

thanks for the info ig

[rapid bough]

np

[dusty crag]

what's a good server host (best performance to price ratio)? gonna use paper on it so ye

[rapid bough]

self hosting is best

[twin lagoon]

it's not

i suggest looking into dedicatedmc or bloomhost

or extravm

[tame pendant]

bloom, dedicated for bigger servers
Enviromc for smaller imo

[dusty crag]

i'm currently self hosting rn and my DSL connection aint gonna hold if my server gets big which is why i ask

but yeah i'll take those into consideration

[rapid bough]

apexd is good or maybe nood

[warm anchor]

apex is budget

[rapid bough]

what about

forgot the name

[twin lagoon]

k

[warm anchor]

@twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

[rapid bough]

?

try exatron

[twin lagoon]

absolutely not

anything aternos is a no

[warm anchor]

if you are 18+ and has a credit card, consider Oracle Cloud

Aternos is still trash like before?

[dusty crag]

i'm 16 so cant :(

[rapid bough]

wdym

[dusty crag]

aternos is free and most of the commands are locked

to avoid DDOS

[warm anchor]

and also, most self hosted server dies within first few months, so really tht's somethijng you look into way after

[warm anchor]

that's really false but ok

that's not how you avoid ddos

[rapid bough]

aternos isnt even that bad. Obviously doesnt compete with paid hosting but it isnt horrible

[dusty crag]

the timeout command is locked

[warm anchor]

they are service for kiddo who cant afford anything so any resonable thing they do is out of window

[lyric hinge]

timeout command

[dusty crag]

this is why i self host

[twin lagoon]

the hell is a timeout command

[lyric hinge]

[dusty crag]

inactivity timeout

[warm anchor]

they probably mean afk command? they obv dont want people to afk in the server

[twin lagoon]

that's because it's a free host

[warm anchor]

[twin lagoon]

they don't want you to waste resources

[lyric hinge]

Not to prevent DDOS lmao

Aternos does the job for what it is

[warm anchor]

do they REALLY tell you that's the reason? I dont know they are so low

[dusty crag]

still, self hosting is better than aternos

[lyric hinge]

Isn't the best but at least you get... something... you can play on, for free

[warm anchor]

Oracle 😉

[rapid bough]

its the best free hosting service

[warm anchor]

one little trick to dumpster all summer host

[lyric hinge]

Well yeah but most people aren't going to be able to figure out Oracle Cloud

[dusty crag]

what about server.pro

[twin lagoon]

both are bad

[rapid bough]

nah

[warm anchor]

they are also budget host.

[twin lagoon]

avoid all free hosts

[golden gust]

free hosts are all underpowered

[rapid bough]

server pro is bad

[twin lagoon]

it's that simple

[golden gust]

some of them are basically paid traps

[warm anchor]

minehut is like MLM

[golden gust]

e.g. "free" but if you need more power you need to pay for a month of overpriced shit in order to get access to your files

[rapid bough]

minehut isnt as good as aternos sorry

[warm anchor]

outsoruce all risk to server owners who decide to pay and provides an audience

[golden gust]

if you're expecting any good review here from free hosts, "good luck"

[twin lagoon]

minehut is different

[golden gust]

All we get is a torrent of tears from them in here

[dusty crag]

fun fact: the PS1 makes a beep on startup, the beep is it reading the CD boot sector to verify the disc is legit

[lyric hinge]

Yeah I wouldn't put Minehut in the same category

Minehut is more, a free private world than a free server

[golden gust]

if the price of a coffee is out of your budget, hosting a server is really not for you

[rapid bough]

didnt know that thx

[warm anchor]

^

wow zcat that's a good statment

[golden gust]

ye, sumtyms i sez smrts stuffz

[untold copper]

cash

why do i have cash

and not a paypal

this sucks

[lyric hinge]

I do think the development work that goes into the actual half-decent free hosts like Aternos is quite cool

[golden gust]

stop pimpin' snoopa

[rapid bough]

aternos can handle 5-6 plugins on paper well

[lyric hinge]

The way they use temporary proxies and DNS to dynamically spin up servers, on-demand VPS'es to handle extra load, etc

[golden gust]

you can't tweak the configs all too much and the hardware is pretty weak

for a handful of friends, yea, sure, go for it

Just, please don't ask us for support when you're using those platforms

[rapid bough]

i mean yeah... I wouldnt have more than 50 players on aternos though

[cunning raft]

so I see a lot about Oracle cloud, how much storage do you even get with that

[twin lagoon]

200gb iirc

[cunning raft]

Not bad

[warm anchor]

200 GB

[twin lagoon]

you get surprisingly good stuff for free

[cunning raft]

How much ram

[warm anchor]

Jroy read what tux said in other server

24GB

[rapid bough]

shadow

[lyric hinge]

You also get a call from one of their free trial engineers a few days after signing up

[cunning raft]

24gigs??????

[lyric hinge]

Mine woke me up

[cunning raft]

wtf

[warm anchor]

yes Jroy

[rapid bough]

24 gb

[lyric hinge]

Yeah, pretty mental free tier

[warm anchor]

they are going all out to get you hooked

[twin lagoon]

it's ARM hardware though

[lyric hinge]

24gb RAM, 4 ARM vCores, 200GB storage

[golden gust]

marketing want their moneys worth

[warm anchor]

Jay have you consider getting all your employee sign up for one and expend your service

xDDDD

[lyric hinge]

Lmao that wouldn't made a dent in it

[cunning raft]

Looks like I'm moving a discord bot it

[lyric hinge]

Plus that would be shitty to host paid customers on free oracle cloud plans lol

[warm anchor]

It's only time until someone make use a cluster of those free plan to do summer host

[lyric hinge]

Yeah unfortunately it is

[rapid bough]

has anyone tried shadow?

[golden gust]

I mean, it's free in a sense of they hope to upsell you, stuffing you onto their custom nodes is cheap in terms of costs that it all just probs comes from the marketing budget

[lyric hinge]

Shadow

Come back when they have stock

[rapid bough]

LMAO

[lyric hinge]

I did have one ages ago a few months after the launch

[rapid bough]

shadow is good.

[lyric hinge]

Their Linux client was super immature at the time and I had too many issues to justify it

As well as at that time I only had a 5mbit connection

Now I would pay for it since their Linux client is better and I have a faster home connection, but no stock so...

[rapid bough]

Java runs better on linux than on windows for me

[warm anchor]

[lyric hinge]

I mean Linux client as in, the thing you install on your real PC to connect to the shadow blade

[golden gust]

most places neglect their linux clients, tbqh

[lyric hinge]

Tbh the issues might have been caused by me using a laptop with switchable graphics but either way, their client was pretty new and hacky

Yeah, it's sad

[golden gust]

God, I remember the skype days

[rapid bough]

yep

[lyric hinge]

My worst hate is the "ubuntu is the only distro" mentality

[rapid bough]

Linux deserves more support

[lyric hinge]

Give a .deb file and nothing else

[golden gust]

oh, btw

I use arch

[rapid bough]

it isnt?

[lyric hinge]

Although usually the AUR repackages that shit properly

[lyric hinge]

The only other distro is Arch

btw

[golden gust]

weak

install gentoo

[lyric hinge]

What compiles faster

Paper, or Gentoo kernel

[golden gust]

kernel

[lyric hinge]

based

[rapid bough]

no wdym the only 2 distros arent just ubuntu and arch. theres debriana and fedora

[twin lagoon]

he was joking

[lyric hinge]

*debin

[twin lagoon]

*debian

[rapid bough]

-------> the joky

[twin lagoon]

certified debriana linux user

[rapid bough]

my head

[cobalt surge]

Cat oh cat where for art thou cat

[golden gust]

oh god it's the beast

[cobalt surge]

Hello cat

[rapid bough]

I like ubuntu the best

[cobalt surge]

How have you been cat

[golden gust]

I wish it was bedtime

[lyric hinge]

(credit to https://www.reddit.com/r/okbuddylinux/comments/opld5e/debinunixpornrice/ lol)

[rapid bough]

nicer logo

[golden gust]

and how are thou?

[cobalt surge]

I'm good..

[golden gust]

shame

oh, I mean, that's good

[cobalt surge]

I got sideswiped last night though

[golden gust]

oof

[cobalt surge]

I was thinking about going back to get the insurance but...

[rapid bough]

certified freak

Suns in 8 btw

[cobalt surge]

Don't think the buck had full coverage

[rapid bough]

why do people buy NFTs?

[warm anchor]

why do people "do things?"

[untold copper]

eternity

are you free rn?

[rapid bough]

yeah

y

[warm anchor]

no. I charge $120 an hour with a minimum of 8 hour

[untold copper]

ok so

i need help with a school project

[vernal moth]

NFTs aren't things

[untold copper]

can you help

lmao

because i dont have friends

[golden gust]

I'll give you the change in my pocket and a used stick of chuddy

[rapid bough]

theyre people?

[warm anchor]

depends on what kinda project school was an ancient memory for me @untold copper

[golden gust]

art project

[warm anchor]

is this one one those dumb survey thing ._>

[golden gust]

I wanna paint you like one of those french girls

[untold copper]

i need you to do interiors in a minecraft world

[warm anchor]

I suck at MC

have you ever seem my base

[untold copper]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

i have until tomorrow to do this

and i've haven't done ANY interiors

[warm anchor]

oh so project just announced?

or you just lazy? and wait til last minute?

[untold copper]

no

[warm anchor]

[untold copper]

i have too much to do

[austere ivy]

snoopa is professional builder team??

[untold copper]

BRIAN

jesus anyone willing to help lmao

i really want to win this competition

because its the ONE THING im actually good at

[austere ivy]

i'll hire you eternity

[warm anchor]

[austere ivy]

hm yes cannot offer advice but best of luck

[untold copper]

aaaaaa

[warm anchor]

where is the train

[untold copper]

what train

which train

[warm anchor]

you building a train station? on your pic??

[rapid bough]

hey snoopa

[untold copper]

this is my society smh

or an attempt

at my society

[ashen cliff]

Cat. Since you didn't buy me the Volvo, buy this instead: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/blahaj-soft-toy-shark-30373588/

[warm anchor]

let's ban Snoopa until tomorrow

so he can finish project

[ashen cliff]

His project is to finish 12-3.

First try.

[untold copper]

noooo

[golden gust]

fuckin' weeb

Don't tell me

You're after a hydro-dynamic mouse pad too

[ashen cliff]

TF is that?

[dusty crag]

the playstation was so bad at being the playstation that polygons would warp, stretch or just simply be out of place

[golden gust]

smh

Gura

She's hydrodynamic

[warm anchor]

zcat is actually more into anime than most of us. He just good at hiding it

[golden gust]

I just wish thursday would come sooner 😦

[dusty crag]

fun fact: the xbox is so similar to a PC that it will run an OS if you give it one

[ashen cliff]

You mean the PS4?

But that's not a PC.

[golden gust]

I mean

all consoles are PCs

[ashen cliff]

No bro.

[worn ember]

it personal and it computes

[golden gust]

Just, many basically make it a royal bitch to get custom software on there

Okay, well, not PC's per the dictionary but they're not revolutionarily different from a traditional PC

[warm anchor]

consoles are just PCs that locks out of most features at at budget price that's subsidy of buying into their eco system.

[ashen cliff]

aka. not a PC: https://posili.me/i/2021-08-01_18-35-27.png

[golden gust]

bro

go find a cliff and yeet yourself

[ashen cliff]

Bro.

[twin lagoon]

BRO!

[ashen cliff]

Cat just hates me because of my "I am very smart" badge.

[golden gust]

Okay, I lied, I can't wait for wednesday, I forgot it was thursday in another country and timezones, woooo

[ashen cliff]

[wispy blade]

bro! Need the blahaj.

[austere ivy]

all my friends got this and I literally

went to ikea and did not get it

can not believe that I forgot to get blähaj

[golden gust]

typical brian

[cosmic raft]

this song is stuck in my head now x_x

[golden gust]

That's what you get ||wheen you leeet your heeaart wwiiiin||

[ashen cliff]

Bro. It's this or the 1.5m FUMO.

[cosmic raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbiyKJchkEY

enjoy

[warm anchor]

I am convinced kashi has a song for every situation

[golden gust]

2009

old people music?

[warm anchor]

True

[cosmic raft]

yes am old

and since you're ancient it fits too

[warm anchor]

Kashi boomer confirmed

[golden gust]

Yea, but, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RRyniZG0Jo

[cosmic raft]

how old do you think i am eternity

:|

[warm anchor]

You prob a bit younger than mini

So like 26?

[twin lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/ayaya-yeah-happy-hapinness-kiniro-gif-12992329

[cosmic raft]

25

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrFYVd8BiL8

[warm anchor]

Pog I was almost correct!

[worn ember]

#music

smh

[golden gust]

Our names our blue

fite me

*are

wow, am DED

[warm anchor]

True

Ded you are worthless infront of blue role

[void void]

does villager work in nether?

[dusty crag]

me when

[ashen cliff]

Aight, just got this epic new widescreen setup: https://posili.me/i/2021-08-01_19-44-05.png

[twin lagoon]

gregtech

[ashen cliff]

Space race just started bro.

[austere ivy]

literally could've been me >:(

[ashen cliff]

🦈

[arctic basalt]

anyone there who would like to test my survivalgames shooter like plugin (minigame)

[potent fossil]

nop

[potent fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/jungle-book-good-job-bravo-sarcasm-gif-5957978

[untold copper]

:)

[wide chasm]

Windows 10 giving me a popup to "enhance my experience" by "connecting to a few more Microsoft services" smh

Of course no way to completely get rid of the popup, just "remind me in 3 days"

[potent fossil]

dum

Who do these people think I am https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Intent-Antlion-11.png

And where are they getting their information

[ashen cliff]

A public spam list.

[potent fossil]

Oh it's a phish

gg

[placid thicket]

So someone used pizza to beat dark souls...
https://nintendowire.com/news/2021/07/26/man-beats-dark-souls-with-a-homemade-pizza-controller/

[potent fossil]

Should be illegal. I would've eaten that

[placid thicket]

You still can

[magic river]

What's special about build 89?

[potent fossil]

prob just hasn't updated yet

[placid thicket]

Nobody has logged in since build 89 so at build 89 it stays XD

[worn ember]

[novel horizon]

My friend probably got hit by https://blog.cyble.com/2021/07/22/openly-accessible-elasticsearch-servers-under-ransom-attack/ , lost Pterodactyl DB, there is just the message in DB about the payment, lol

[potent fossil]

he had ptero in...elasticsearch?

[twin lagoon]

yeah that's not how it works

it's just a standard ransomware attack

i've only seen it happen to mongodb servers myself

[novel horizon]

Yeah, but they use the same message etc.

Even samé btc

Which Is weird

[twin lagoon]

well it doesn't take much work to apply the same ransomware technique to every other database

[potent fossil]

eh, well, keep your fuckin server secure and this wont happen

From this image https://i0.wp.com/blog.cyble.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/5-1.png?resize=1024%2C546&ssl=1

It's the sysadmin's fault entirely lmao

[golden gust]

Issue is that so much of this shit is unsecure by default

[novel horizon]

Not sure what is the problem, they talk about some public connections, do you need to block it yourself?

[potent fossil]

yea but it's the admins fault for leaving it at defaults

[golden gust]

and it's fucking moronic and downright malicious by software vendors to do this shit

They know people are dumb and do this shit

[novel horizon]

Well im not sure if I have it too 🤔

[golden gust]

Like, even just only allowing socket connections by default and requiring you to go setup auth manually to get a network socket would be muuuuuuuuuch better

[potent fossil]

I mean, they have copious guides (in mongo's case) all about authentication, security, and sys administration...and they're all free at any time

like, this shit isn't hidden from you

[golden gust]

Yes, but end users failing to configure this stuff is nothing new

[potent fossil]

Well end users get fukt

[golden gust]

even mysql across distros these days doesn't speak on the network by default these days, or, at least, defaults to only localhost

shamefully, as devs, we need to accept that end users are stupid

[potent fossil]

iirc mongo binds to localhost as well

[magic river]

Debian and especially Ubuntu used to make a big deal about being secure by default

[potent fossil]

so these people are making the choice to rebind it

and then getting fucked

[magic river]

So when you install something it can't talk to the internet without configuration

[potent fossil]

In what version does that happen? Cause I haven't experienced that

But would be nice to play with

[novel horizon]

Yeah, not sure how they got there, thought they will have it to localhost only too

So there is some default settings that allows connections without auth?

[twin lagoon]

anything on debian 9 & 10 from my experience

[potent fossil]

really? o.O I haven't experienced that at all

mucho interesting

[ashen cliff]

Debian didn't fix MySQL/MariaDB auto upgrading till last year bro. That was fun.

[languid karma]

my friend says windows is better than linux for hosting

[waxen panther]

Your friend is an idiot

[magic river]

Your... ^

[potent fossil]

^

[untold meadow]

my friend names classes in screaming snake case

[waxen panther]

oh my god

😭

[potent fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/pineapple-express-pineapple-express-gif-7402252

[magic river]

Debian 9 (stretch) mariadb-server install appears to have it only bind to a unix socket

[wide chasm]

I would complain, but I've seen so much shit code when doing TA work, I literally can't be bothered

[golden gust]

aBSTRACTmODELfACTORY

[autumn relic]

I have a 1.12.2 public survival server what anti cheat do you recomend

[mossy vessel]

___main___

mods and an audience not younger than 10

[magic river]

ABSTRACT_MODEL_FACTORY is screaming snake case

I don't know what cat was trying to do is called 😛