#general

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wide chasm
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It's called perfection

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/s

potent fossil
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it's like meme reverse pascal case, i see it on twitter

golden gust
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What I was tryna do was beautiful

autumn relic
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partyparrot I have a 1.12.2 public survival server what anti cheat do you recomend

potent fossil
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1.12 is not supported, so we don't recommend anything

olive marlin
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^^

autumn relic
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Just a recomendation

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of plugin

potent fossil
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Don't have one

autumn relic
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ok

potent fossil
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I only know of stuff for latest

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Good luck

golden gust
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Please just google or use the search feature

autumn relic
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ok

golden gust
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This exact convo comes up practically almost every day so I'm sure you can find some info out there without us enduring this convo yet again

magic river
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Checking mongodb on stretch now

potent fossil
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if i knew of one i'd give the recommendation but i don't. 1.12 is already old af lol

novel horizon
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Is there something to make sure Im not vulnerable to that thing I talked about? I'll check some info or guide too when I get on PC, but it got me thinking

magic river
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Debian 9 (stretch) has MongoDB and MariaDB both bind to 127.0.0.1 (MariaDB also has a UNIX socket)

potent fossil
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i literally do not know any of those

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you clearly have found some

magic river
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So no, they don't listen to the internet by default

potent fossil
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so go try them yourself

autumn relic
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ok

potent fossil
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we don't know. end of

novel horizon
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That Is weird, Amaranth

limber knotBOT
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Updated-NoCheatPlus is the only open source one

potent fossil
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i guess phoenix knows

novel horizon
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Maybe that friend changed it and that's why they got there? Hmm

limber knotBOT
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actually Warden is open source too

magic river
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Maybe they set up some upstream MongoDB repo and the MongoDB developers are idiots

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Or your friend is the idiot 😛

limber knotBOT
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and AntiCheatReloaded too thonk I thought most were just proprietary crap lol

novel horizon
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Yeah, idk, but now I am worried if I am an idiot too, but I didn't change it, so.. 🤔

magic river
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Did you add the MongoDB upstream repo and install the mongodb-org package instead of mongodb?

novel horizon
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But even if you allow it, how can they get access ?

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I'll look to see

magic river
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I think the default for MongoDB is no password

novel horizon
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Really, wth

magic river
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Which is silly when you bind to localhost but catastrophic when you bind to a public IP

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Pretty sure upstream used to have no password and bind to a public IP by default

limber knotBOT
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it did

novel horizon
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I'll get juicessh and check lol

exotic crest
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its been a few years since ive been involved in mc, just wondering, has there been any open source attempts at single world sharding?

ashen cliff
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Don't they disallow remote login without password? Oh wait, that's a SQL only feature. Can't be having that in our NoSQL code base. kekwhyper

exotic crest
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and been a while since ive spoke to you @wheat quarry , thanks for maintaining ftop for me 😄

potent fossil
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there has been at least one thing like that but i dont think it was opensource, it was based on a proprietary engine

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but it has been done

novel horizon
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Or I'll just get to PC i Guess to see

potent fossil
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Is ded now

magic river
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That's a really hard problem

potent fossil
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yea

magic river
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Like, harder than making a Minecraft clone

potent fossil
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they tried tho

exotic crest
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interesting, thanks @potent fossil !

potent fossil
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spatialos does make it such that you have to host with them tho, which is a few Ks a month

magic river
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Just checked, mongodb-org from the upstream repo also only binds to 127.0.0.1 by default

potent fossil
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overall prob not worth

magic river
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So you would have to either have a really old version or you changed it yourself

potent fossil
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yea

novel horizon
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That's weird, why would they do that.. I mean, my friend has a friend that is working for some IT company and did a lot of things, installed proxmox for him along with ptero etc.. why would he do that 🤔

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for that address i can just check mysql bind-address, that's it, right? 🤔

magic river
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Yeah

golden gust
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there have been attempts for single world sharding, some OSS ones, but they often die due to lack of interest or end up getting bogged down by all the technical stuffs

novel horizon
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So by default you can auth with no password?

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If you change it then it should be kinda safe?

magic river
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Used to be able to

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In general the less you expose to the internet the better, even if it has a password

golden gust
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the use cases are highly limited and the only real win of a move would be to create a piece of software from the ground up designed to actually scale, and none of the general "lets create our own MC server" platforms have gotten even close to vanilla

novel horizon
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Should be only 127.0.0.1, right

magic river
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Yeah

potent panther
novel horizon
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Hmm, I'm not sure why, but I got 0.0.0.0 there 🤔 in my.cnf

golden gust
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Gotta have a company in Monaco for .mc domains

potent panther
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oh

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ok

magic river
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So your mariadb is open to the internet

novel horizon
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I think something may need it before, but I don't know what now lol

waxen panther
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looks like you better move then huh cat

novel horizon
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And how can I disallow access without auth? I thought that was enabled by default

golden gust
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run the secure install script

novel horizon
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🤔

golden gust
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will yeet the anon accounts

magic river
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mariadb doesn't let you do passwordless auth unless you setup an account that way

exotic crest
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i guess its just a problem id been mulling over for quite some time, interesting problem but definitely not of much use solved for most game types

magic river
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mongodb I have no idea, that shit is bonkers

novel horizon
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That's really weird, how could they got into theirs, they also use mariadb afaik

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kinda weird

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I'll change it to 127.0.0.1 anyway tho to be sure

magic river
waxen panther
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no

magic river
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I think MongoDB has been 3 different databases since that video was made

exotic crest
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get the feeling the one game type it wouldve been cool to see it on was factions, but i suppose that game mode was so 2016s?

magic river
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Like, they gutted it and started over from some tech they bought

untold meadow
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mongodb have the best official tiktok account out of all databases

magic river
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Multiple times

golden gust
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Not really

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maintaining state across instances is janky

potent fossil
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i mean honestly sharding is not that big of a deal, just run a proxy and a few servers. You can have keep all the servers is sync using some central system shrug

golden gust
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many of the cross server solutions have complex issues around borders as-is

magic river
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If someone ever gets the dynamic threading system going where isolated islands of chunks run entirely independently it wouldn't be that much work to expand that to some RPC system and run on different hardware

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looks at leaf and cracks the whip

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Wouldn't help if you had players spaced just right to have one massive "island"

exotic crest
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yeah thats for sure

novel horizon
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Damn, thought so, Pterodactyl requires you to use 0.0.0.0, so servers inside containers can connect to the database, otherwise it won't work

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Still though if mariadb got it okay, no connection allowed like that, how could they get there, lol, i have no idea what they did there

potent fossil
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Depends where the db is running

magic river
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pterodactyl doesn't know how to configure docker

golden gust
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bind to the ptero interface

vernal bone
magic river
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I bet the interface is somewhat random

novel horizon
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Can I connect to the db from the machine itself tho? If I bind it to docker only?

golden gust
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Yes

vernal bone
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Yes

golden gust
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docker client uses the socket by default

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I mean

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the mysql/maria client

novel horizon
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hmm

magic river
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Yeah local stuff should always work thanks to the unix socket

novel horizon
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so if I bind it to docker0 ip it should allow only connection from containers, but from the machine itself too, that sounds good

vernal bone
novel horizon
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Yeah, already did this now

magic river
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If your Database and Wings are on the same machine and won't need external access, you can also use the docker0 interface IP address rather than 127.0.0.1. This IP address can be found by running ip addr | grep docker0, and it likely looks like 172.x.x.x.

vernal bone
magic river
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This should be the default instructions and it should have the "if remote bind to 0.0.0.0 but security" bit at the bottom

novel horizon
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Yeah

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Exactly ^^

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But still it's fine, some people use it like that (a lot actually) so.. idk

magic river
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If you're running the DB on a separate machine you probably don't need ptero to teach you how to set it up

novel horizon
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It shouldn't be that big of a deal though if it doesn't allow any auth without pass

golden gust
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i would make sure to run the script

magic river
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How many people set their password to somepassword?

novel horizon
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yep

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may happen too 🤷‍♂️

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I'll look for the script

golden gust
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mysql_secure_install or something

novel horizon
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yeah

potent fossil
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my email:
some company i havent been to in forever:
my email:
that company: hey you won our customer loyalty award please come buy something NOW!

golden gust
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p l z

novel horizon
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i'll run the secure install to see, should not affect anything else tho, right? I'll .. or can i just check if anon users are allowed 🤔

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now that I think about it, my mariadb root pass is so secure even I don't know it lol

twin lagoon
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if you have a mariadb root pass you're doing it wrong

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unix socket authentication chatting

ashen cliff
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Bro.

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Can't be having that.

novel horizon
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That allows you to connect from the machine itself without that anyway or what 😄

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seems like it, thats nice

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reading through the wiki now ^^

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Hmm seems like I don't have unix socket auth on 🤔

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can't connect if i use docker ip to bind

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If I don't have anon users though and really secure password, it should be okayish to use 0.0.0.0 as bind though thinking_gun

void void
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I think i found the reason of my pc crashes

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I didnt enable swap

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freezing system > system that didnt respond

limber knotBOT
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You can disable Swap?

twin lagoon
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yes

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you don't need swap

void void
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maybe, if you have enough ram

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But i absolutely havent

olive marlin
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I love guides saying how SWAP is bad and you should not use it.

golden gust
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swap is not needed but there are some niceties of having it

olive marlin
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SWAP is slow!!11!11!

golden gust
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ur slow

olive marlin
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Still faster than you though.

twin lagoon
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kubernetes still recommends disabling swap

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so no swap it is

worn ember
twin lagoon
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not that good of a reason to disable it tbh

golden gust
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if you're swapping that much you're doing it wrong

olive marlin
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Ah, yes. Because it'll surely use up my thousands of TBW my disk is rated for.

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You are not meant to use swap as a replacement for ram.

shrewd portal
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kubernetes wants to disable swap b/c otherwise you'll run into nondeterminstic performance

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tbh I don't really think I've run into a situation where swap has helped me

golden gust
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see, I remmeber when I was younger java had some oddities about system memory and not having swap enabled

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but, tbqh, that was years ago and when I was like, far from a "linux pro"

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am do the bed thing I thinks

twin lagoon
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for 1.22

ashen cliff
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Just set swappines to like 5 and 🛌.

shrewd portal
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I think the only issue I’ve run into is like

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Some databases really love their 4kb pages

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But the kernel doesn’t keep enough of them around

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So it can oom without using all the ram

ashen cliff
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4kb is normal.

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When something hogs all the huge pages. kekwhyper

untold copper
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can i have yestable role plz

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kthnx

waxen panther
static badge
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in windows using a pagefile is required

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even though I have 64GB of ram it will refuse to allocate more than 20GB without adequate pagefile

worn ember
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spotted uwu pepefurry

cosmic raft
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hi leaf

wispy blade
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@green turret ended up hopping on linux to do the c++ stuff kekw

worn ember
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Betrayal

green turret
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Hahaha

wispy blade
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friend gave me a vm in a container 👌

worn ember
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so i have my laptop like 2-3 years and now when i want to close it the screen literally pops open on the bottom from the downward force and its very unsettling cuz i'm scared it'll snap off at some point xD

green turret
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Well, I don't know, I think it takes a special kind of patience to use Wndows as a software developer. Mad respect for anyone who can deal with it. I can't.

wispy blade
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same tbh

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for java and webdev: absolutely fine

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anything else: agony, agony and agony once more

worn ember
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yeah no issues for webdev and java stuff, its only when you go low level that it gets painful

wispy blade
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yup

worn ember
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embedded stuff and the things you need to flash etc

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absolute nightmare on windows

wispy blade
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X2GO is actually really epic

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we do a little

worn ember
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ubooontooo

wispy blade
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thanks 727pp.how for giving me a free vm ❤️

full ginkgo
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Does paper patch tnt duping?

wispy blade
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"yes"

cosmic raft
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hm

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twitter is down for me

wispy blade
lean kiln
worn ember
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fine for me aswel

cosmic raft
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images load

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the site itself doesn't

lean kiln
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nice

cosmic raft
wispy blade
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lmfao nice

worn ember
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what high level service broke this time

wispy blade
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redis

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bro

worn ember
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redissus

wispy blade
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no

worn ember
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sticker

magic river
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4kb pages get fucked

cosmic raft
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tl;dr?

magic river
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More or less a better implementation of transparent huge pages

cosmic raft
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gets out his crayons

magic river
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Converts the page cache and XFS to use folios instead of pages and then folios can span multiple pages

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Should have made that a reply to the talk about kubernetes and DBs wanting 4kb pages

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It makes the kernel smaller and faster and apparently gives an up to 80% perf boost to postgres

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It mostly only helps DBs, of course, although iirc even kernel compiles are like 7% faster

unkempt drift
rich cove
warm anchor
gilded raven
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RIP paper

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XD

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cant believe they did something like that on a game

warm anchor
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Thanks for sharing this information with us “suppaGamerYT”

wispy blade
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literally already fixed years ago?

gilded raven
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no?

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they HAD paper devs make a bug for them

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by making a specific out of memory crash log

warm anchor
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Can you go back to firMC discord

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Thank you

gilded raven
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dont have his discord...

warm anchor
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The glitch is no longer working in current version

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No one gives a shit about 2b2t here

gilded raven
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oh its 2018...

worn ember
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It's been posted like 5x already cx

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this seems legit, lets hope i win

unkempt drift
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dude a $1000 gift card?

worn ember
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3 times too!!

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3k ez money

unkempt drift
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bezos is distributing his wealth

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I love the A_M*A/Z_0-N

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clearly from Amazon

worn ember
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ikr

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even my grandma without glasses could see this isnt real

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and shes dead

wispy blade
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F

foggy veldt
worn ember
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coomstar

dusty crag
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gonna try to add a donation page to my server

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lets hope this works

tribal flicker
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mrsunglas gl

tropic flame
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apparently Termux added an openjdk-17 package to their repositories just 3 days ago

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i can literally run my bot, which is written in java 16, on my phone

nimble depot
novel horizon
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!kick maverick xd

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i'm not here

formal turret
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wow bro why'd you ping me

novel horizon
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but first thing, don't ping people without reason (although everyone doesn't work) and don't ask for free things like that

formal turret
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you did

novel horizon
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that doesn't mean there's bad people if they don't want you to buy something lol

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wtf

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yep go away

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😠

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for fun

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sure

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I'm not interested

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maverick?

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no thanks

viscid wedge
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check out this cool bread I found at work

novel horizon
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ew

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that's horrible

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ban maverick rn

viscid wedge
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It has four different kinds of mould on it

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That's a new record!

novel horizon
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yeah, really nice

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so much colours ❤️

magic river
novel horizon
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maverick don't bother people though or ask for free mc or you're gonna get kicked soon thumbs_up_parrot

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uh

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what

silver nexus
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that seems like a bad idea

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plus im listening to something rn

magic river
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I love that they got him to come back for the Marvel Spiderman movies

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The character is completely different, from yellow journalism to Alex Jones expy but the same actor

silver nexus
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im good

magic river
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And probably the best actor in those films 😛

novel horizon
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sure 👀

silver nexus
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i can't say you are wrong

novel horizon
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-_-

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okay kick

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don't ask multiple types to join vc and also ping people, don't bother people for your keyboard

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it's actually the opposite

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okay...

viscid wedge
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my boy here got the good brainworms

magic river
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Well it was nice knowing you

static badge
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not pinging me :(

novel horizon
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yep

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@static badge hey ❤️ love u

cunning raft
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!ban @snow locust no thanks VeryPog

thorny flickerBOT
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:raised_hands: Banned frizura1#1831 (no thanks :VeryPog:) [1 total infraction] -- Joshie#0001.

novel horizon
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maybe kick also maverick 👀

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you are pinging random people too along with asking for free mc lol

static badge
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peperlaugh

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jroy

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take em out

novel horizon
unkempt drift
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WHO PING

mighty storm
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skipped right over me lmao

unkempt drift
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YOU SHALL PERISH

novel horizon
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hehe MM ❤️

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😠

unkempt drift
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did this guy ping wiz?

mighty storm
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no

thorny flickerBOT
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:raised_hands: Banned maverick#1111 (Pinging Staff Members + This isn't a marketplace) [1 total infraction] -- Joshie#0001.

novel horizon
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someone else did, but hey

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already got this ❤️

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thanks jroy

void void
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omg its leaf from tuinity

novel horizon
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it's leaf from like dozens of projects

static badge
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is that chucky cheese from chucky cheese

void void
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leaf from @tuinity and @fringe valleylight and @fallow kernelwrittenDFU

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why did those

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hmm ok

static badge
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d

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i

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s

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c

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o

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r

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d

void void
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woudl you agree that discord is kinda slow

novel horizon
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discord sucks

void void
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js slow

novel horizon
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but also is great, so

void void
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what if it was rewritten with performance in mind

true canyon
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Hey are you Spottedleaf from the Spottedleaf gaming forum?

cosmic raft
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spottedleaf is not doing mbaxter is doing

static badge
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there's a what now

warm anchor
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Spottedleaf from furry universe

static badge
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silence weeb

warm anchor
vestal jasper
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@static badge

static badge
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@vestal jasper

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@vestal jasper

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@vestal jasper

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@vestal jasper

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@vestal jasper

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@vestal jasper

vestal jasper
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woah

novel horizon
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😮

warm anchor
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Y’all shitposting on Sunday night

static badge
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better than what you do at night

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you filthy fucking weeaboo

vestal jasper
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I poked the sleeping bear

warm anchor
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Leaf what do you think I do poutrie

true canyon
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Don't make me wave the banhammer around in a threatening manner!

novel horizon
warm anchor
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Furry is a threat to our society. Let’s remove them

novel horizon
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you could wave the banhammer in a loving manner ❤️

void void
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dont install funny exe

novel horizon
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🤦

warm anchor
void void
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sad

novel horizon
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okay, thanks for the tip, i wont install exe on debian

void void
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dont install .idk on debian

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rpm

novel horizon
waxen panther
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@static badge hi there mister 🙂

void void
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0.015btc lmao

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oh wow thats 500 dolalrs

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i thought it was like 10

novel horizon
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..

void void
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still tho

novel horizon
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first thing, it's not that low, but my friend got that message in db with "0.15 btc" and that's quite a lot

void void
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rip friend

novel horizon
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🤷‍♂️

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just making sure im not vulnerable too

void void
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oh w ait

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it just puts a txt file

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doesnt actually do anythinh

magic river
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Why would you pay $5000 to get an elasticsearch DB back?

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Isn't it just an index for some other data to make it easily searchable?

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I could see paying to stop them from leaking it but it should just be a matter of some time to reindex everything

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But whether they leak it or not knowing they got it still triggers all the same processes for notification and such

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That's probably why they only asked for $500

novel horizon
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That's just some article

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He got it in mysql

magic river
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Then that's a completely different attack

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mysql has never had a default install with no password or some random junk one, afaik

novel horizon
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It's just the btc address and text is exactly the same and such

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yeah it's weird

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i have no idea how they could get there

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just making sure i'm alright

magic river
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The Windows installer makes you pick a password as a part of the install process and Linux distros ship it with the root user locked so you have to use the mysql CLI to unlock it or make a new account with a password

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If you're dumb enough to make a user without a password and then put it on the internet that's your problem 😛

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Or really putting it on the internet at all, weak passwords and exploits are a thing

novel horizon
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i have no idea how they got it to do that

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I was thinking I could switch to unix socket auth + only allow ptero, now though it is allowed by everyone, kinda

upbeat falconBOT
warm anchor
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Just ssh in from your phone krappa

novel horizon
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I am using that too already ^^

warm anchor
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What you use? Prompt on iOS is life saver rieEggplant

magic river
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If you have a firewall that blocks the mysql port from the internet then it doesn't matter what you bind to, it won't be available from the internet

novel horizon
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I'm curious about them though, because the guy making it is someone who works for it company and has access to quite a few things, lol

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I did it today, Ama ^^ just to be sure

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I should be fine then, so ^^ thanks for the additional info ❤️

magic river
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Our stuff at work is either firewalled to company owned IPs only or to very specific IPs

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Assuming it ever leaves a single machine or vnet at all

novel horizon
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He said that he may forgot something, but still, quite bad to do that, someone deleting whole Pterodactyl DB and such, like wth? someone working in there

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"pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by" is just crontab right? 🤔

magic river
novel horizon
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Thank you, Ama ❤️ Was reading through something too, just making sure ^^ 🙂

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That my friend got a lot of "failed password" in var/log/auth.log too lol

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I think I'm fine though

radiant oriole
lapis shale
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Thank you

potent fossil
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What a day

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Baby showers are always interesting affairs

worn ember
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i dont think i've been to a baby shower in like 10 years xD

potent fossil
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It was for my 2nd niece. There was a game where they melted random chocolate bars into diapers and you have to open the diaper and sniff it, then guess the chocolate bar. Some of it straight up looked like legitimate shit PepeLa

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Other than that, it was pretty boring. Just sat in the shade and watched it all go down

true canyon
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That's just... no thank you.

warm anchor
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SImple wtf

vestal jasper
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Wtf

rare herald
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Googled to see if that’s an original idea

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Apparently it’s a thing

novel horizon
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not my kind of fun :/

vestal jasper
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I'd rather be a Rocky horror picture show noob again than experience that

spiral robin
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Hi

turbid oar
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Hi kekwhyper

potent fossil
#

That is very much so a baby shower event

#

More common than you might think

potent fossil
knotty monolith
#

Hi, not sure if this is the right place.. (please let me know if there is a better one) I'm looking for a plugin that i can use to keep the chunks where my crop farms are to keep growing. I tried KeepChunks but it seems it doesn't work with farms because of a "Minecraft Limitiation"

novel horizon
#

You can use in theory /forceload (vanilla command), not sure if it works on crops though 🤔

#

There are some plugins that try to keep chunks loaded, but I haven't used any

knotty monolith
#

ok, ill give it a try! Thanks @novel horizon

novel horizon
knotty monolith
#

Just found this: Crops do not grow in forceloaded chunks unless a player is nearby. Crop growing (without the use of bonemeal) depends on chunk ticks.

#

😦

novel horizon
#

Sad 😦

knotty monolith
#

is there maybe a mod / plugin that i can use to drop an invisible person into the world maybe?

novel horizon
#

Afaik citizens can make npc like a player 🤔

#

not sure if it works still

knotty monolith
#

hmm..

novel horizon
#

I guess you have to try

#

there's a lot of plugins for that

#

someone for some reason said that i destroyed their server (or spawn directly), no idea why 🤔

#

And sometimes I look at their website to see if the server is running, they had there like "maintenance" or smth but now it has default apache page, sad

knotty monolith
#

thank you!!

peak ginkgo
#

linux friends

#

pick me a desktop os

novel horizon
#

windows 11

peak ginkgo
#

already using windows 11 lets go

#

My monitor has KVM but I need a Linux host to try it

#

Thinking popos just to install on another partition and try

warm anchor
tawdry girder
#

chimeraOS, steamOS but better

warm anchor
#

no no I thought the goal is recommend him worse OS

tawdry girder
#

freedos

foggy veldt
#

This is the desktop

vernal moth
#

More like windows aesthetic?

foggy veldt
#

It has an app launcher that resembles chrome, this is an old pic I had on my phone I’m too lazy to get up

rich cove
potent fossil
#

Because I went to a baby shower and it was one of the activities

warm anchor
potent fossil
#

Maybe that's a struggle baby shower activity. I don't know what upper middle class or rich people do for babyshowers, but it was good enough lol. They got quite a good start for everything they're gonna need when she comes, which should be in the next few weeks

#

Sorry y'all think it's the weirdest thing ever or whatever, won't share next time

silver nexus
#

ive seen weirder things done

potent fossil
#

We also had "taste this babyfood and guess the flavor", "do a trivia about mom and dad", "predict the delivery date", "throw balls into the hanging diapers" etc

#

so, whatever. i thought it was fine

silver nexus
#

the last one i went to had a baby piñata and it just felt wrong to see people bashing a babies head in at a baby shower

potent fossil
#

not like anyone was forced to sniff chocolate, it was just a game you could play if you wanted to

potent fossil
#

idk it might be a parent thing as well as this is a 2nd child they are both well acquainted with shit in diapers so it's not as gross to them

peak ginkgo
#

which one of you is this

novel horizon
ashen cliff
#

At least one of them. kekwhyper

rich cove
#

Do you people know if "ban", "unban", and "ban-ip" are minecraft: commands, or bukkit: commands?
(commands.yml)

lean kiln
#

minecraft

#

those commands are in vanilla

rich cove
#

same with "warn"?

#

(/warn)

vernal moth
#

Never heard of that command

lean kiln
#

not sure about that one

rich cove
#

nevermind then

lean kiln
#

that has the list of vanilla commands

#

not seeing a /warn

rich cove
#

Is there a vanilla command to unban someone?

rich cove
#

Ah yes

#

thanks

#

is there a wiki to all commands bukkit added?
(or spigot or paper)

peak ginkgo
#
BukkitWiki

The following are all the server commands either a server administrator or admin in-game can enter with CraftBukkit out-of-the-box. In addition to the original vanilla SMP commands there are 4 additional commands which are specific to CraftBukkit. CraftBukkit provides built-in permissions which can be used in a permissions manager. Defaults are ...

vernal moth
#

First time checking GitHub notifications after vacation

#

Only 245, that's not as bad as I thought!

golden gust
#

hahahaaa..haa...

wide chasm
#

I kept checking those and marking them as done during vacation 🙂

vernal moth
#

I actually read them multiple times a day cat

void void
#

github just unverifies my e-mail every once in a while

#

so i don't get a shit

golden gust
#

I tried keeping up

#

I failed

vernal moth
#

This isn't email mikro

#

It's the notification tav

void void
#

oic

vernal moth
#

I disabled emails

wispy blade
#

@mossy vessel BEST nmf

mossy vessel
nimble depot
#

the only e-mails I read are from Hetzner and I panic when one comes in

ashen cliff
plucky sparrow
#

I read all of my emails

ashen cliff
#

How many emails do you get per day?

wispy blade
#

200, mostly spam

#

too lazy to unsubscribe

vernal moth
#

Fancy

wispy blade
#

not using std::endl

#

unacceptable

nimble depot
late plinth
#

how much RAM is allocated for one person?

void void
#

thats not how it works

late plinth
#

I have 7 GB of RAM. How many players

nova plume
void void
#

Depends

late plinth
#

So what

left swift
#

5

#

Sometimes 7

#

Maybe 500

#

Somewhere between there

vernal moth
#

It's impossible to make predictions like that since there are way more factors

#

Just start letting ppl join and then grow as needed

golden gust
#

memory usage is easy?

#

It's always a multiple of 1

worn ember
#

0 if the server is off

#

probably more than 0 if its on

left swift
#

Ur easy cat

golden gust
#

Tryna compete with mari for miles

worn ember
#

4 2 1

limber knotBOT
#

mfw I find a bug in PayPal that sends money to the wrong account 😅

ashen cliff
#

So working as expected?

vernal moth
#

Paypal is just socialist

wispy blade
#

Based PayPal?

left swift
#

Anarcho socialism

wispy blade
#

no

left swift
#

U

#

U think my pfp will be a good tattoo

wispy blade
#

no

left swift
#

Ok I get it then

frank otter
#

niome why is reading a LLC

austere ivy
frank otter
#

are you afraid of liability from books

wispy blade
#

it's an LLC because i need to have some kind of for-profit organisation

#

to stimulate people to read

frank otter
#

are you trying to privatise reading

wispy blade
#

no

#

i've never said such a thing

frank otter
#

fair enough

#

did you know that iirc some countries in the middle east have no public libraries

wispy blade
#

the Reading company is actually a book publisher as well

frank otter
#

oh ok fair enough

#

what books have been published do you know

wispy blade
#

Paper: How A Small Group of People Revolutionised Minecraft

worn ember
#

theres a lot more people involved than you think

wispy blade
#

yep

#

still, a small group began the project :p

worn ember
#

uwuwuwu

frank otter
#

I'm curious where do I join

worn ember
#

join what

wispy blade
austere ivy
#

wait wait hire me toooo

wispy blade
#

sure

plucky sparrow
wispy blade
#

no cuz i've been busy with cleaning my room n stuff

olive marlin
#

Sounds like an "I think I forgot to turn off the oven" excuse.

wispy blade
#

i've been doing other stuff

#

smh

#

gonna get new furniture in my room

olive marlin
#

Sure, sure... :P

plucky sparrow
#

Absolutely

#

Well

#

You will be punished by the Java gods then

limber knotBOT
#

so, is anyone running any kind of metrics dashboard for their instances?

wispy blade
plucky sparrow
#

That’s what I thought.

limber knotBOT
#

i've built my dashboard using telegraf, grafana, influx, and loki/promtail

wispy blade
#

htop is enough for me :p

limber knotBOT
#

haha

#

well, i track who logs in/off, number of users, users blocked (not in whitelist), mem/cpu/processor stuff

#

plus local logs via promtai to loki

#

promtail

void void
#

anyone know any cool chat mini games plugins ::~>

limber knotBOT
#

oh, yeah, added overload metrics alls (ms/ticks behind)

#

s/alls/also/

#

Correction, <underdog> oh, yeah, added overload metrics also (ms/ticks behind)

plucky sparrow
void void
#

O lol

worn ember
#

there are those scrambled word solvers and such

#

idk what they're called tho

wispy blade
#

wtf maven

#

why delete my dependencies

plucky sparrow
#

because you are using maven

worn ember
#

cuz u bad

plucky sparrow
#

(it’s ok tho, I use it too, but it never deleted my dependencies)

wispy blade
#

it legit had to go redownload them kekw

#

never changed my pom.xml btw

worn ember
#

cache probably expired

wispy blade
#

yeah that's likely it

worn ember
#

if i build at 23:59 it'll be fine, if i build after midnight it redownloads them

frank otter
wispy blade
wispy blade
frank otter
#

brilliant

#

what exactly does this job entail

wispy blade
#

when people fail to follow simple instructions, tell them to read

#

:)

#

@plucky sparrow realised i actually didn't need the role thing, just set it so that you need manage channel perms

wispy blade
#

yes

plucky sparrow
wispy blade
#

because it's easier that way kekw

plucky sparrow
#

I’m sure people would prefer if they could assign a task to a role instead of it being locked to a permission

#

No?

wispy blade
#

most mod roles in discords have manage channel

plucky sparrow
#

Well I mean it is

#

Not all do

wispy blade
#

and otherwise: admins/owner does

plucky sparrow
#

I also used permissions instead of roles before and it wasn’t good

#

Well, you do you 😶

wispy blade
#

monkemodmail is purely administrative so /shrug

plucky sparrow
#

It’s better to let your users choose

wispy blade
#

which users kekw

plucky sparrow
#

You have one download 😒

wispy blade
#

pog!

plucky sparrow
#

You have one user

#

Make the plugin good for him smh

wispy blade
#

see, if only i could see who downloaded 😔

plucky sparrow
#

I tried to but it wouldn’t let me

plucky sparrow
wispy blade
#

do what?

plucky sparrow
#

Download smh

wispy blade
#

well, that's easiest

plucky sparrow
#

Does it add to the counter though

wispy blade
#

yes

#

that's what it's for

plucky sparrow
#

It didn’t tho

wispy blade
#

takes a while i guess

left swift
#

Read

warm anchor
#

no mana new profile pic??

wispy blade
#

he's had it for a while wdym

golden gust
#

how long until one shits on em?

ashen cliff
#

5s.

#

Since Reimu can't get a break. kekwhyper

mortal zinc
#

so md_5 shot down my PR of something I had contributed to paper about 3 years ago, said it was a terrible idea... bleh

#

everytime i see / encounter attitudes like that, it makes me glad that I was convinced to use paper and not spigot

left swift
#

Hi eternity best friend

golden gust
#

Hello mr shitty super villian

left swift
#

Wow

#

Ur the shitter

golden gust
#

oh, that was victor, close enough

left swift
#

Good

#

Oliver tree lookin headass

twin lagoon
#

when you buying @vernal moth

golden gust
#

what the fuck is up with the visor

mossy vessel
#

Looks like when someone repairs your phone with duck tape

golden gust
cunning raft
#

google finally bit the bullet on zoom lenses

wide chasm
#

That camera bar looks horrible

mortal zinc
#

calling me a super villain

golden gust
#

Hey, don't think so highly of yourself

#

I said shitty

#

;P

mortal zinc
#

lol

golden gust
#

❤️

mortal zinc
#

❤️ silly cat

cunning raft
#

mkbhd dropped a video on them too

golden gust
#

mfw vector actually has victor as their pfp

mortal zinc
#

my name has always been catchy

#

like i didn't even pick it because i wanted something catchy lmao

#

it was during the time I was learning C++

#

came across the Vector class

turbid oar
#

Nice

wide chasm
#

Can't do that with Java since our names would exceed the max name limit

#

/s

mortal zinc
#

people talk about me all the time when i'm not looking, specially those pesky mathematicians

vernal moth
turbid oar
#

#iphones

#

is better

vernal moth
#

assuming their soc is actually good and the new cam delivers

#

really liking the design too

magic river
#

They called their SoC Tensor?

vernal moth
#

I loved the nexus 6p and thats kinda a new version

magic river
#

Is it a TPU with some midrange trash SoC hanging off the side?

golden gust
#

the plain one sorta looks like you left some ye' ol' plastic case out in the sun for too long

vernal moth
#

TPU is an asic, would that even work with an arm soc?

golden gust
#

I mean, yea?

magic river
#

That question is kind of nonsense

vernal moth
#

well, I dont fully know what the TPU really is

#

but I just read that my phone has a tpu already

cunning raft
#

it's the whitechapel chip

vernal moth
#

"On October 15, 2019, Google announced the Pixel 4 smartphone featuring the Pixel Neural Core, which contains an instantiation of the Edge TPU architecture"

cunning raft
#

(that was the codename for it)

fossil patio
#

tensor processing unit, basically for machine learning

cunning raft
#

google has already had a Neural Core and their Titan M custom chips before

vernal moth
#

I know what its called paul, lol

fossil patio
#

:p

vernal moth
#

just don't know how it actually works

golden gust
#

Simple

#

it does stuffs

vernal moth
#

my van neumann machine doesn't have a TPU?!

#

why did I even study this shit

golden gust
#

you should lick it just to check

cunning raft
#

Titan M is likely still separate but the Neural Core will likely be integrated with the SoC now

magic river
#

It being an asic or not has nothing to do with if you can put it in the same device as another chip

fossil patio
#

from what i understand a tpu is solely a coprocessor and a gpu is basically its own processor+operating system which allows the tpu to be more efficient

vernal moth
#

so the TPU has the instructions baked into hardware?

magic river
#

A TPU is just more specialized hardware than a GPU

vernal moth
#

kinda like video encoding?

#

just, broader

magic river
#

A TPU is basically a chip that knows how to do 8-bit matrix multiplies and nothing else

vernal moth
#

that makes sense

#

ty

magic river
#

I don't know the dimensions of the matrices, just that they use INT8

#

That's about as far as my machine language knowledge goes 😛

vernal moth
#

anyways, ill of course wait for reviews and benchmarks, but after the underwhelming 5, am excited for the 6

#

dimension depends on all kind of shit

#

like how many in and outputs you have and how many hidden layers

magic river
#

I wonder if it'll flop like Exynos did

#

Turns out it's pretty hard to do better than ARM does for CPU core designs

#

Just because Apple makes them look like they're asleep doesn't mean it's true

vernal moth
#

apple can do it

#

"#Pixel6 is also built with the most layers of hardware security in any phone.* Shield

*Based on count of separate hardware security layers"

#

kek

#

layers man, we need more layers!

topaz mortar
#

I'm happy to see a 5+ Years update cycle for the phones.

vernal moth
#

thats already a thing if you want

magic river
#

iPhone? 😛

vernal moth
#

even on android ppl do a good job at providing updates

topaz mortar
golden gust
#

I got 2 years of updates on my oneplus, even got in an extra major too because of the timing of it all

cunning raft
#

well the problem google is trying to solve is companies like qualcom don't always update their modems/firmware, thus preventing updates

golden gust
#

OEMs rarely support their devices after 2 years

#

that's a well understood and long reported fact

vernal moth
#

you can still install the latest android on a galaxy s2 😄

golden gust
#

officially?

cunning raft
#

no

vernal moth
#

hell no thats a 10+ year old phone

topaz mortar
#

Nope custom rom of course

vernal moth
#

thats not what I was saying

golden gust
#

point in case.

vernal moth
#

am saying the hardware isn't a limitation in providing updates

golden gust
#

Yea, sure, you can go out of your way and induce a headache which the majority of phone owners don't wanna deal with

topaz mortar
#

I was talking about official updates. 😄

vernal moth
#

so nothing is changing for pixel

#

if google would want, they could support for shit for 10 years

#

but why would they

#

why would anybody

#

not even apple does that

golden gust
#

For all the shit that apples gets, at least they actually support their devices for longer

vernal moth
#

but android is open so you can do it yourself

cunning raft
#

well the hardware can be a limitation mini, as you update software with older hardware the experience could get worse than it would if you halted feature updates

golden gust
#

Except that you then have to hack around the security crap

warm anchor
#

Apple user also on an average upgrade their hardware more often

#

compare to average

vernal moth
#

oh yeah, your hardware will be too slow, but thats not the point mkbhd was making (which ysl referred to)

warm anchor
#

Their upgrade program is also one of the best and I dont see any other company that can compare

#

Effectively turn the phone into a monthly subscription

vernal moth
#

they made the point that google having control over the SOC means they can provide updates longer, which doesnt make much sense

golden gust
#

want android pay? Gotta get whatsamacalled running so you can bypass the security crap, and pray that your banking app or android pay doesn't update and break it again

warm anchor
#

LOL

vernal moth
#

you only loose secruity net if you root cat

cunning raft
#

when you use custom roms, they need to ship with unoffical modems

vernal moth
#

but this is a non issue cause custom roms can do it jroy, that was my point

#

oh do they?

cunning raft
#

yeah

vernal moth
#

I thought they just shim

cunning raft
#

or hack the existing one

golden gust
#

majority of them use the original roms and patch them manually

cunning raft
#

it's not safe and carriers will not certify them

vernal moth
#

I only know the roms that use official firmware and make that work with android with shims

golden gust
#

thankfully google is kinda working on that but it's probs gonna be years if we ever see the fruition of that work

vernal moth
#

why would my carrier need to certify my phone?

magic river
#

Custom modem firmware would be news to me

cunning raft
#

they patch them

#

shouldn't have said custom

#

point is companies like qualcom are a block for long term android updates

plucky sparrow
#

Could a modified version of the M1 fit on an iPhone?

#

Just like they did for the iPad Pros

#

Ofc stripped down

magic river
#

Yeah, it's called the A14

plucky sparrow
#

Not as fast

magic river
#

The M1 is mostly just an A14X

#

So if the one in the iPhone isn't as fast that's going to be because they couldn't put that kind of perf in a phone

#

Not because of the architecture or whatever

plucky sparrow
#

Well

vernal moth
#

its power and thermal limits that make up the difference in speed

plucky sparrow
#

I mean the A14 is faster than the SD888 while having less cores and better power consumption

#

Why can’t they just upgrade the batteries?

magic river
#

Uh

plucky sparrow
#

They will have to do so if they want a better refresh rate on the screens

vernal moth
#

its all trade offs

#

if you put a bigger battery, its gonna be thicker and heavier

plucky sparrow
#

Hmm

magic river
#

To put M1-level perf (even matching the iPad Pro) in there they'd have to make it thicker and put in a fan

plucky sparrow
vernal moth
#

isn't the smallest macbook fanless?

plucky sparrow
#

No it has one fan I believe

golden gust
#

Oh, hey, maybe they can put in a big enough battery to justify having a headphone jack

vernal moth
#

but it got more surface area I guess

magic river
#

The MacBook Air is a lot bigger, yeah

golden gust
#

the air afaik has no fan

plucky sparrow
#

Oh the M1 one doesn’t have a fan

#

It’s only the previous models that did

golden gust
#

pixel 5 and the iphone 11 has around the same battery size

plucky sparrow
#

Doesn’t sound right

vernal moth
#

pixel 5 is a mid range phone so it makes sense

#

my 4xl has way more

plucky sparrow
#

The capacity is bigger though?

vernal moth
#

3700mah vs 3110 mah

plucky sparrow
#

Doesn’t the pixel 5 have 4080 mah?

twin lagoon
#

pixel 5 epic

plucky sparrow
#

Why does the iPhone 12 have less mah than the iPhone 11

#

Doesn’t seem right

#

At all

cunning raft
#

they improved battery efficiency in the ios version it launched with, cut costs on battery to get same battery perf

warm anchor
#

They are more optimized

fossil patio
#

it was intentional because of their jump to 5nm for the processors

twin lagoon
#

ew paul

warm anchor
#

iOS has never been a fan of just putting bigger things inside but making it more efficient @plucky sparrow

fossil patio
#

to be fair though, i wish my iphone 12 had better battery life by like 2-3 hours lol

twin lagoon
#

@warm anchor AYAYA

plucky sparrow
cunning raft
#

how do you know

warm anchor
#

Epic Michael @twin lagoon Hype

plucky sparrow
#

It says the time

#

Right on the middle

cunning raft
#

where is that from

fossil patio
#

but it is cool that my fanless phone is faster than my desktop at web benchmarks though, apple's cpus insane

plucky sparrow
#

Um

#

Toms guide

#

Regardless I’ve seen similar results on YouTube vids and etc

magic river
#

That seems to be comparing LTE vs LTE-A

warm anchor
magic river
#

It's mostly a radio benchmark

plucky sparrow
#

I get that the regular iPhone 12 could’ve lost some battery life since they upgraded the screens (finally)

fossil patio
magic river
#

Unless that was their wifi benchmark

plucky sparrow
#

Ohh no the phones were using 5g

#

Makes sense then

fossil patio
#

compared to people with iphone 11s i'm actually fairly certain my 12 gets better battery life, anecdotally

warm anchor
magic river
plucky sparrow
fossil patio
#

I do have 5g, we were the first city to roll it out

magic river
#

Only way you don't see a 16" M1 MBP is if they call it M1X or M2 instead 😛

plucky sparrow
#

16” MBPs will likely launch with an M1X or an M2

#

Yeah

magic river
#

Still seems likely to be a thing in either September or October

plucky sparrow
#

Tbh they will likely launch with the M1X

magic river
#

Would be weird for the MBP to be better than the iMac though

fossil patio
#

idc, i'll take it

#

although i admittedly am curious to see what 5nm amd laptops will look like, but that's probably not coming for a full year

warm anchor
#

Wait it's August it means it's apple announcement month Hype

twin lagoon
fossil patio
#

huh, so I guess apple beat amd to tsmc 5nm laptops by a full 2 years? that's kinda crazy ngl

plucky sparrow
#

I’m more interested in RTX Chromebooks kekw

fossil patio
#

720p screen and 2 core processor, rtx 3090 enabled chromebook

plucky sparrow
magic river
#

Apple paid for TSMC 5nm to be developed 😛

plucky sparrow
#

I bought a crucial ssd btw

plucky sparrow
#

I was looking for the Sandisk SSD Plus but i think it’s actually slower

plucky sparrow
wispy blade
#

BX500 is fine

plucky sparrow
#

Why is it **

#

fine

wispy blade
#

it works

#

and it hasn't corrupted my data 1 year after purchase

plucky sparrow
#

Is it fast though

wispy blade
#

fast enough for a $20 ssd

plucky sparrow
#

Hmm

#

Well I want to move my whole macOS partition to that ssd

warm anchor
wispy blade
#

i rarely use my laptop so eh

golden gust
#

Crucial is a pretty well reputable brand

#

while they're probs not the fastest SSDs, you're primarily getting towards the region where it really doesn't matter anyways

warm anchor
#

Samsung enjoyer here

plucky sparrow
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I’ve seen reviews about the speed on the crucial falling to 50mbps and not recovering at all 😶

fossil patio
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never had a samsung ssd fail, had to get replacement ssds for 3 different crucials

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which was "fine" because each time they sent a newer version, but still

golden gust
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I got some like ocion or some crap in my laptop, been there for years with no real issues, other than TRIM slowing down the PC boot by like a minute, so, disabled that, gonna see how it goes...

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I have a samsung SSD in my lapop and it's been good, but, I think it's all down to your needs

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crucial is a fairly reputable brand, but, it's cheap shit, in a sense

wispy blade
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i just needed some cheapo SSD to dual boot with

warm anchor
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Just buy another pc

golden gust
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I ain't seen such reviews but god knows, depends on what you're doing with it and such

warm anchor
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Don’t take our word too seriously lol it’s all down to our personal experience

golden gust
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any SSD will bolt down in speed if you start tryna jam crap into it

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some deal a bit better with it, some don't, 🤷‍♂️

plucky sparrow
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I’ve checked the bad reviews and even though they’re just a few, they don’t seem to be good

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Battery life went down to 58% for someone in one month

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And write speeds suck

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Might get a Samsung 870 evo

wispy blade
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definitely a better choice if you want speed and reliability

shell vine
plucky sparrow
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I want reliability mostly

golden gust
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Yea, I mean, if you've got the cash, defo recommend the samsung over any other

plucky sparrow
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Yeah I’ll get one then

golden gust
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I ain't had any real issues with the SSD in my laptop but I really just treat it practically like it's a HDD

plucky sparrow
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I just hate that it delivers past tomorrow and not tomorrow 😭

golden gust
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But, for my desktop where I do the grunty stuff, having a good SSD is great

fossil patio
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ram is cheap rn, just get a terabyte and ramdisk it to a hdd TE_Shrug

golden gust
wispy blade
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true

formal turret
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my crucial boot drive has been fine for me :p kinda regret getting one so small but that was like 5 years ago at this point

golden gust
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Yea, 1TB was far too small

wispy blade
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yeah, with your 700 GB media folder

golden gust
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different disk

formal turret
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it is only a 250gb boot drive

peak dirge
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I could still use a 250GB boot drive...

btrfs filesystem df / 
Data, single: total=137.01GiB, used=135.93GiB
System, single: total=4.00MiB, used=16.00KiB
Metadata, single: total=6.01GiB, used=4.59GiB
GlobalReserve, single: total=376.23MiB, used=0.00B

laughs in 1TB 970 EVO

wispy blade
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cries in 1tb HDD

plucky sparrow
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I have a 240gb nvme for both macOS and Windows

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I have another 2tb hdd for windows data tho

wispy blade
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👀

ashen cliff
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My Ubuntu install is still on 16GB. kekwhyper Not fun.

wispy blade
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bro!

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install gentoo bro.

viscid orchid
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How to import worlds using Multiverse in Aternos server?

plucky sparrow
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  • my macOS partition has 30gb on "other"
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:(

golden gust
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"other" is basically anything that's not the OS or in the users folder

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e.g. if you have brew installed

plucky sparrow
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i do have brew but i barely used it

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what other stuff is not stored in the users folder

west ridge
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So, here we are.