general

[vestal jasper]

If you think they're gonna punish you for stuff you do then either stop doing them or find a place that allows it.

[warm mesa]

I'm happy they are switching Mojang accounts to Microsoft accounts. I want 2FA and it's one less account I need to worry about since I already have a Microsoft account.

[warm anchor]

Normal people wouldn’t have issue

[peak ginkgo]

I've already migrated and it's a dream.

[warm mesa]

I bet I'm on the end of the list. ☹️ 🤣

[peak ginkgo]

I was invited by hand

I just kind of asked nicely and one morning I could.

[cloud moat]

Just startet learning Kotlin. I'm amazed. It's like the devs thought about what they are doing for even a second

[vestal jasper]

@kindred storm I'm not saying they should use the Bukkit logger. I have code that addresses people who do that too...

[fickle bridge]

Wait, just curious, what's your claim to fame

[peak ginkgo]

"Upstanding community member"

Developer for streamers, sometimes server owner, etc.

It was already my xbox gamertag

[warm mesa]

Stop making me jealous.

[peak ginkgo]

You know what doesn't work?

Windows Hello

[ashen cliff]

You still own the game. They can't legally really take it from you.

[meager tusk]

What if the account I used for my mojang account is a microsoft one?

[peak ginkgo]

@meager tusk They merge

[meager tusk]

Neat

[peak ginkgo]

It added my mojang email to my xbox account

It offered me to change my name to my gamertag

[meager tusk]

Fuck no

[peak ginkgo]

Wouldn't do anything for me bc/.... DeJayDev

[warm mesa]

I doubt Mojang will implement that in the Launcher unless Microsoft tells them to.

[peak ginkgo]

They're using an embedded Chromium page so I can't use my pin

[meager tusk]

Mine is like Idriz$randomnumbers

[peak ginkgo]

It's technically the Microsoft signin page so the button is there

It just fails to initalize bc the embedded browser can't say Hello to Windows

(get it)

[warm mesa]

Yeah they aren't even using WebView2 in the Launcher.

[fickle bridge]

If you break these rules we may stop you from using our Game.
https://account.mojang.com/documents/minecraft_eula

[meager tusk]

good one

[peak ginkgo]

You can still play single player.

The reddit post outlines greyed out Lan and Multiplyer.

If the game didn't have single player, then they could ban you

[warm mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tuss-jokes-gotcha-burn-ouch-gif-5645546

[peak ginkgo]

You get banned from GTA Online in the same sense

[meager tusk]

FiveM > GTA Online.

[novel horizon]

FiveM < poop

[peak ginkgo]

This is what happens when I pick Windows Hello

[novel horizon]

have you seen those fork bombs they distributed ? lol

[meager tusk]

ShadowHacker's opinion < dirt

[ashen cliff]

GTA Online used to have servers with just hackers in it, to prove that they stopped hacking.

[meager tusk]

uwot

[peak ginkgo]

FiveM actively shits on Open Source communities and thats not pog

[fickle bridge]

Also, how does Windows Hello work internally? Do they just trust the PC to not tell the server that someone else authenticated?

[meager tusk]

yeah but the freeroam servers are fun

[warm mesa]

I thought the built the Launcher using chromium but maybe they did just use an embedded version of Chromium.

[fickle bridge]

I assume Microsoft isn't that insecure

[fickle bridge]

The launcher itself is made with Chromium Embedded Framework

[peak ginkgo]

Windows Hello is a request to the OS

[novel horizon]

pterodactyl ditched fivem for those reasons about security, their ego and the malware/fork bombs they distributed

[peak ginkgo]

A little IPC packet type thing

"hello yes :)"

[warm mesa]

You don't understand Windows Hello. It works the same way as FaceID on iPhone.

[peak ginkgo]

And then the user can... use Hello

[worn ember]

I just came to say Hello

[potent fossil]

my school is giving $250 to anyone who is fully vaccinated

[peak ginkgo]

And it sends back the associated microsoft account (in this case)

[novel horizon]

nice simple ^^

[fickle bridge]

I mean to sign in to Microsoft. Does the PC's OS just tell Microsoft that "yes, this person authenticated" and Microsoft's servers just take the PC's word for it?

[meager tusk]

wtf can i go to your school?

[warm mesa]

How do I enroll?

[peak ginkgo]

Yes :)

[potent fossil]

[peak ginkgo]

If you're signed into Microsoft on your OS it just kind of

Sends the account back

[meager tusk]

oh wait nvm you're there

forget i said that

[potent fossil]

WTF Idriz

[peak ginkgo]

If you're not, you can have Microsoft + Windows Hello linked online and your PC's signature is inately trusted to say it's you.

[meager tusk]

Hacked

[potent fossil]

Why are you ALWAYS so MEAN

[meager tusk]

I GOT Hacked

[potent fossil]

Don't trust you.

[fickle bridge]

Aaaand what stops someone from making a PC that allows them to auth as anyones

[meager tusk]

@minor badge hacked me.

[fickle bridge]

Oh

[potent fossil]

No Mari loves me

[fickle bridge]

It's signed

[peak ginkgo]

A LOT of Security.

Ye it's signed

[meager tusk]

Apparently not.

[potent fossil]

.kill Idriz

[limber knot]

slices Idriz's limbs off with a sharpened katana.

[peak ginkgo]

The technology is called FIDO

.g FIDO auth

[unkempt drift]

simple, did you get robbed? I didnt hear about the resolution of your "situation"

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://fidoalliance.org/fido-authentication/

[meager tusk]

WTF that hurts

[fickle bridge]

.g what is paperchan

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://paperchain.io/

[potent fossil]

No I told him we need to meet in a public place & I want a cashier's check and he ghosted me

I set up my security camera to alert me to any motion out of paranoia and nothing sus has happened so far

I also moved my car to a different location

[warm mesa]

You have to have a Microsoft account signed into your PC and when you setup Hello it associates your face to your account. There are certain requirements your PC has to meet to use Windows Hello. The most important requirement is an IR camera.

[peak ginkgo]

I used Windows Hello on a test website.

[worn ember]

i cant even migrate

[peak ginkgo]

my security key is in my bag so i wont be finishing

[warm mesa]

I want a security key but I'm worried that if I get one that all the USB-A ports will switch to USB-C as soon as I get one.

I swear it will happen.

[peak ginkgo]

Get a USB-C Security Key

My cheif complaint is my new PC doesn't have a USB-C Hookup

I have to use the port in the back of my computer

and that's far away

[fickle bridge]

USB-C:

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png

[warm mesa]

Yeah my desktop doesn't have one either. I need an adapter.

[worn ember]

Pin code gang

[peak ginkgo]

usb-c is our savior

I can change my phone, connect a monitor, and read from a hard drive all with the same cable

[warm mesa]

Isn't there an xkcd bot on this server?

[peak ginkgo]

.xkcd standards

[fickle bridge]

.xkcd

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) No results found!

[potent fossil]

there is but it's stupid

[worn ember]

yeah but its usesless

[peak ginkgo]

.xkcd 927

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) No results found!

[fickle bridge]

.xkcd How Standards Proliferate

[peak ginkgo]

yeah its dumb

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) No results found!

[potent fossil]

I believe xkcd changed their API and it's not updated. I need to go fix it

[worn ember]

👏 very nice

[potent fossil]

But, just haven't had time

[fickle bridge]

.xkcd Situation: there are 14 competing standards

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) No results found!

[worn ember]

if you have time to type you have to fix it

[potent fossil]

Stop please

[warm mesa]

.xkcd 2493

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) No results found!

[warm mesa]

Oh damn. Sorry

[potent fossil]

It's not gonna find any, the only thing it can do is pull up the xkcd title from the link which is useless lol

[worn ember]

[fickle bridge]

Also, why is explainxkcd down?

[potent fossil]

Like I believe if I do this:

https://xkcd.com/2496/

xkcd: Mine Captcha

This data is actually going into improving our self-driving car project, so hurry up--it's almost at the minefield.

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) xkcd: Mine Captcha (30 July 2021)

[potent fossil]

That's all it can do

(atm)

[warm mesa]

https://xkcd.com/2493/

xkcd: Dual USB-C

Small devices use two-prong USB-AC, but there's also a three-prong version with a USB-B plug as the ground.

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) xkcd: Dual USB-C (23 July 2021)

[potent fossil]

I'll fix it eventually

[worn ember]

very useful xD

[warm mesa]

USB-C is awesome but it would be nice if more companies continued transitioning.

[potent fossil]

yea that thing where it replies to the link is really dumb, not sure why they added that in cloudbot at all

[worn ember]

i dont even have any USB-C on my motherboard

irc maybe

cuz they dont have embeds or something

[potent fossil]

Oh yeah lol, big brain

[worn ember]

dum dum irc users

[warm mesa]

When you want to buy a flash drive in a store the only options you see are USB-A.
I don't even think that TV's have a USB-C port yet.

[worn ember]

i bought a 2020 model just a few days ago and i didnt see any usb-c connections

only usb

[warm mesa]

I can't believe that USB-C didn't kill Micro-USB though. How is micro-USB still a thing?!

[twin lagoon]

barely a thing

[worn ember]

it was a thing for a bit but got phased out rather quick

[vestal jasper]

Barely a thing

[warm mesa]

Fire TV devices use it for their plugs.

[vestal jasper]

That's one thing

[worn ember]

why would you do that tho? just use a power cable lol

[warm mesa]

They have the fire tv cube, fire stick, fire stick lite, fire stick 4k

That's multiple things.

[vestal jasper]

USB c and the fire TV came out the same year

[twin lagoon]

@vestal jasper uwu

[vestal jasper]

It's likely they don't want to put the cost in to switch

[worn ember]

not like it has to transmit any data

[warm mesa]

They've had multiple generations though and don't they have to pay to use the USB standard?

[warm mesa]

They actually do they have ethernet adapters.

[worn ember]

so then what? you gonna have an ethernet adapter and no power

[vestal jasper]

Sorry to break it to you but there's other factors like supplies, the ports, and potentially yeah royalties for using USB c, they have to change their cases to fit the new connectors

Ig the new ones could've from the get go but

I'm not gonna claim knowledge into anything they do

[warm mesa]

The adapter provides power and ethernet. Idk how it works since I can't use one. My house isn't wired for ethernet and it is too expensive to wire my house for it.

[worn ember]

yeah ig thats a thing barely anyone uses that tho

in most cases you just pull an ethernet cable to wherever you need internet and do the same for the power

[vestal jasper]

That's what I do ^

[worn ember]

no point in combining them cuz not all your devices will need internet anyway

dear god i hope not

inb4 in 2050 all your devices need to be connected to internet to operate

[warm mesa]

I wish I had ethernet throughout my house. Stop making me jealous.

[vestal jasper]

I have a cable running into my room from the routerv

I also don't have WiFi on my desktop so wired is required

[worn ember]

actually now that i think about it, thats not entirely how it works. your internet is basically on your power cables, so any cable that has an outlet has potential to provide internet

or something like that

[warm mesa]

I have Verizon Fios so we have to use their router because the TV coax needs to plug into it. So I can't even get a nice mesh wifi system.

[celest ridge]

wifi sucks

[worn ember]

ok boomer

[celest ridge]

if u play online games

wifi is so bad

competitive online games*

[vestal jasper]

Yeah Comcast here. They bundle the modem and router. Though they let you use your own router.

[celest ridge]

yeah i used my own

[worn ember]

yes and getting crushed by a giant bolder is bad too

[celest ridge]

they make u pay rent if u use their router

[worn ember]

*if you want to live

[vestal jasper]

So without their modem you can't do anything.

[celest ridge]

no i used my own

it was fine

[void void]

Just use enthernet lol

[vestal jasper]

The xfi gateway?

[celest ridge]

exactly

[celest ridge]

I was able to use my own modem for xfinity internet

[vestal jasper]

Huh

[worn ember]

idk if you can use your own router here

[vestal jasper]

May look into that

[celest ridge]

they have a list of modems on teir site

that will work

[warm mesa]

I could use my own router but then we loose stuff like the remote DVR and live TV away from home. We would switch to Comcast but we don't want data caps on our home internet.

[vestal jasper]

Bet

[timid ginkgo]

Bruh I use cox which also bundles…

[void void]

I like when some minecraft player says "buy WiFi"

[vestal jasper]

Don't switch to Comcast lol

[void void]

lmao guys just use cable

[vestal jasper]

That's a downgrade and a half

[celest ridge]

yeah i switched to webpass

its inssanely fast

but webpass is very limited in availability

[warm mesa]

I mean it's cheaper and better in a few ways but I know we would regret switching.

[vestal jasper]

Not here it's not

[celest ridge]

when I was on comcast my internet would go to shit every night during covid

around like 1-2am

once i switched to webpass that never happened ever again

[vestal jasper]

$200/m for gigabit down and 10 megabit up. With the hardware rent fee.

[celest ridge]

also my internet would randomly go from the promissed speed to like 1 Mbps

which is unusable

webpass was 600$/yr

[vestal jasper]

My internet dies every other night in the middle of the night

[celest ridge]

for 1gb up and down

[vestal jasper]

I've seen places do $100 for gig up and down

I don't even have gig up

[celest ridge]

600$/yr is a steal for 1gb fiber

[warm mesa]

I said a few ways. Saving money by using xfinity mobile would be one of them since xfinity mobile is literally just Verizon Wireless.
Your internet price is like more than double what they offer where I live.

[vestal jasper]

I'm also limited to downloading 1tb a month.

[worn ember]

i get 500gb/m

[warm mesa]

That's why I haven't switched.

[worn ember]

"Unlimited" amirite

[vestal jasper]

It's another $50/m to remove the cap

[celest ridge]

yikes

[worn ember]

yeah they throttle you hard if you go over the cap

[left swift]

My ISP got 1gb last year and upgraded my service for me cuz I asked about it lol

[warm mesa]

My state threatened to sue Comcast over the data caps since they were going to implement them during the middle of the pandemic when everyone was still online. And they were going to raise prices.

[worn ember]

30mbit gang

[celest ridge]

comcast internet when to sht during the pandemic

[left swift]

Comcast is literally scum

[celest ridge]

im assuming their infra couldnt handle the increased load

[vestal jasper]

I can't change my plans on their website btw

Never have been able to

I've always had to call. The site always breaks.

It offers the functionality but it's been broken for better part of 5 years.

[left swift]

Nope

[vestal jasper]

At this point I'm convinced they know their website is broken and use it to fuck you over on the phone. Anti consumer.

They tell you different deals than the site lists

[celest ridge]

yeah cause if you call, they can give u their sales pitch

[vestal jasper]

Yep

They can't upsell on the site

Need the human component

[warm mesa]

The city next to me where my Aunt lives only has one option for internet and TV, Comcast. The city begged several internet companies like Verizon, Cox, Spectrum, and AT&T to come into the city and offer competition but all of them said no.

[vestal jasper]

Comcast is the only option where I live.

As much as I hate it I hate not having internet more.

[celest ridge]

yeah I hear that in most places u either have time warner or comcast

and u have no choice

😦

[vestal jasper]

^^^

Time Warner is another option but my speeds will be in the kilobytes per second.

[celest ridge]

and apparently this is not a monopoly and totally fine

[warm mesa]

That's what sucks. Either you have one option, two options, or nothing at all. There is literally no competition.

[vestal jasper]

The infra should be standardized and Comcast shouldn't be able to bribe out entire regions of the map into exclusivity.

But that'll never change

[celest ridge]

unfortunately its just as bad in like Canada 😦

[vestal jasper]

Any cable company should be able to go into my house and use the existing infra to setup what they need to.

[celest ridge]

actually thats how it mostly works in Canada

the issue is that all of the big players are sht

so u have a choice but they all kinda suck

[vestal jasper]

Big players here are shit too

Really, most cable companies are shit

[celest ridge]

u get to pick ur poison but it's still poison

lmao

[vestal jasper]

But yeah here Comcast goes around offering to build infra cheap so long as they have exclusive rights to use it. Aka my complex is Comcast only.

Gotta love it

[celest ridge]

smart by them i guess

[warm mesa]

Yeah, they hold exclusivity rights on using the poles or underground wiring where they lay down their cables. No one else can use them.

[celest ridge]

i want purrrmission to post in #adorable-pets 😦

[vestal jasper]

I wish they'd also include Ethernet cables in the walls lol

I want them wall connectors

Some day.

[celest ridge]

i thought most houses have that build it

i guess not true for older houses

[vestal jasper]

I mean it'll probably never happen by the time I could afford such a thing WiFi will have improved I'm sure

Uhhh I've never seen a house with Ethernet connectors in the walls.

I've seen telephone lines in the walls but never Ethernet.

[celest ridge]

oO

I used to sublet for university

all of the houses I was in had them

My parent's house has them too but i know my parents had them installed

so it didnt originally have them

[vestal jasper]

Never heard of it being an actual thing

[celest ridge]

wait cant u use IoP

or something

[vestal jasper]

Lop?

LAn over phone?

[celest ridge]

like internet over power

[vestal jasper]

Or that

Lol

[celest ridge]

idk how well it works

[worn ember]

it works fine

[celest ridge]

seems like a pretty easy way to get ethernet throughout the house

[vestal jasper]

Looks like that would work

Gigabit powerline for $37. Doesn't seem bad at all.

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/IFN6MPvCYVY

[stiff shore]

How do you get permissions to post in #adorable-pets

[vernal moth]

You get struck by lightning

I couldn't post before I got admin

[worn ember]

ok but hangar wen?

[vernal moth]

Still in the car

But am in my bed in 30 minutes it looks like

After like 15 hours?

[worn ember]

Ok, putting out an announcement for public release of hangar in 15 hours

thanks

[potent fossil]

wtf lmao that was a first time that ever happened, I called this dr office and it's like

"Hello this is the google assistant can I ask what you're calling about"

So I explained that I need to ask a question about my insurance and it goes

"Alright let me try to reach them RIIIIIIING"

And then it spoke in like 3x speed voice "sorrytheycan'ttakethecallrightnowbye" and it hung up on me

what

[worn ember]

Ai amirite

they're so rude

[potent fossil]

You can't make this shit up I have no idea what just happened

I'm in shock

[worn ember]

How i got trashtalked by a google assistant (MUST WATCH!!)

[potent fossil]

I think even the ring may have been fake. It just sounded so synthetic

What in gods name

Alright whatever

Interesting...

[trim karma]

Bruh I get micro stutters all the time - I cannot for the life of me figure it out. Its not a paper issue - its just my PC. I just cant trace it. https://i.imgur.com/nX2KlBH.png

Every white spike on the bottom left is a major stutter... If anyone has this or had this. please - im tearing my hair out over it.

[worn ember]

might be garbage collection

[trim karma]

Happens no matter render distance.

Maybe - I've tried tuning some JVM options - but, no luck yet

[worn ember]

no clue

[trim karma]

Its just so niche - lol; thanks for the consideration - this is so rough

[potent fossil]

That is so weird. That's almost exactly what happened, but it didn't let me leave a message. It just said "not available bye" and hung up on me lmfao

[worn ember]

this is the future

[potent fossil]

Not quite like the advertisement https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjarJDL94vyAhX9TjABHaVBBP8QwqsBegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DD5VN56jQMWM&usg=AOvVaw3EXFRPXIfv-EbQW8w3sY1G

Oh jesus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5VN56jQMWM

Fucking hate google sometimes

Oh wait, no, that's not quite the same thing. That video is google assistant making the call for you

This was google assistant answering the phone

Nevermind

[magic river]

So I have a project due on the 6th, or really overdue since I think this is the second time it's been pushed back. My boss's boss comes to me a couple hours ago and asks how busy I am with the project. After telling him that he is getting a meeting going on Monday to try to convince higher ups to bump my project again so he can get my help with something else

[potent fossil]

Lol re that video:

On the call that Myriah answered, she said the AI sounded like a young male. However, a few minutes after she hung up, Duplex called again to confirm the name on the reservation, but this time, it had a different voice. “This one was Irish!” she says, noting it was odd that the AI wouldn’t use the same voice to confirm the same reservation called in just moments prior.

So it calls and makes the reservation, then hangs up and calls back 3 minutes later with an irish voice

This is truly the future

[vestal jasper]

Mm-hmm @potent fossil

[potent fossil]

I know lmao

[vestal jasper]

as someone who would rather walk 4 miles in 90f/32c weather than talk on a phone for a few minutes

I'd love that

[celest ridge]

they should ab test

with different voices

and build a profile for each customer

"this customer responds well to uwu"

[potent fossil]

how serious of a repair is a blown head gasket and leaking radiator if I were to buy this dude's car lol. I'm trying to find a cheap af but reliable car that can get me to and from college

[worn ember]

ig you could ask google assistent to call your garage

[potent fossil]

[worn ember]

but yeah asking them is probably the best you can do

[potent fossil]

Wait, I was under the impression duplex was not actually out and it's like a "hey look what we can do but it's nowhere near ready"

[wispy blade]

hmmmmmm yummy

[static badge]

@vestal jasper

[vestal jasper]

@swift root

[wispy blade]

@static badge

[static badge]

weeb

[wispy blade]

touhou isn't anime

it's a game series dating back to the 1990s

[static badge]

@warm anchor your opinion

[olive marlin]

cpp

[tropic flame]

yeah naomi is right

touhou ain't anime

[static badge]

I am asking the anime expert himself

[magic river]

touhou is anime-adjacent

Also eww, allegro

[static badge]

what is "anime-adjacent"

[magic river]

The characters are drawn in anime-style and I think some of the games have little cutscenes that are basically anime?

[static badge]

anime style = anime in my book

[tropic flame]

as if this chat isn't public and i cared about who it's directed to

[static badge]

found the angry weeb

[tropic flame]

Spottedweeb

[worn ember]

ah yes, time savers

[teal cedar]

Learn any language in an hour with Derek Banas!

[warm anchor]

Touhou is about as weeb as one can get. Covers ACG Anime Comic and Game.

[worn ember]

fokin weebs

[static badge]

there we go

[worn ember]

[tropic flame]

a visual studio time-saver is to not use visual studio

[static badge]

see this is why I wanted the expert opinion

[teal cedar]

... I just wanted to look at a json file

[worn ember]

i use rider most of the time but it doesnt have blazor debugging yet

[tropic flame]

most of the time I use VSCode with GCC and GDB ¯_(ツ)_/¯

if i need a gui i can just pull up wxwidget's window builder or something

[worn ember]

i just do stuff like this then xD do my code in rider and debug in VS

[tropic flame]

cool

CPU go brrrrrr

[worn ember]

i did notice rider uses a lot of cpu

compared to VS

[warm anchor]

[worn ember]

but yeah its mostly fine xD

my pc starts to struggle a bit if i have like 4 rider instances open and i decide i want to play dota too

[tropic flame]

oh so that's when your PC struggles

[static badge]

installing dota is nothing but a detriment to your PC

[tropic flame]

i guess i should stop riding a dinosaur

[worn ember]

your chat messages are nothing but a detriment to my pc

[warm anchor]

Leaf you just suck at Dota it’s ok

[worn ember]

tbh stuff mostly uses a lot of ram but with 32gb its never been full xD

as compared to 16, i was always running out

[tropic flame]

yeah, i guess

wait holy fuck

you were always running out with 16?

[static badge]

i had problems with 32

[worn ember]

few intellij instances, mc, some other stuff and you'll quickly fill that

[tropic flame]

ok yeah I see chrome in your taskbar

i see why now

[worn ember]

and windows needing a bunch too

[floral mesa]

I said fuck it when I built my gaming rig and went with 64GB of ram a few years back

[tropic flame]

i remember when 16gb was just enough

for a gaming rig i mean

[waxen panther]

@static badge hi there mister 🙂

[worn ember]

issue is that i had buy 32gb instead of upgrading the 16 i had, cuz ram was in short supply at the time i had to buy 4x4 and had no slots left

[static badge]

@waxen panther

[waxen panther]

@waxen panther

[floral mesa]

I remember when 2GB was enough, actually hell 1gb was plenty for most games.

[waxen panther]

ok ur old

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[worn ember]

those days are long gone

[tropic flame]

when programs were optimized for least resource consumption

[worn ember]

^^

[tropic flame]

nowadays it's hello world 600MB

[worn ember]

oh so you want to download a game? 150gb

[tropic flame]

"ok but how are they supposed to insert their 4K uncompressed textures for me to completely nut over the game?"

sir, this is a Wendy's they are not supposed to

the people who say this wouldn't even spot the difference between compressed and uncompressed lmao

[worn ember]

cant even run on half resolution lul

[tropic flame]

yeah lmao does anyone even game at 4K?

like, among the average gamers

[worn ember]

doubt it

i mean, maybe its starting to mve up now

[novel horizon]

some people do, and i know someone who brags about it.. the best thing? he plays a lot of games on low settings anyway, because he has 1080

[tropic flame]

bruh

i don't brag about playing on 768p when i gotta downscale to 800x600

[worn ember]

i mean gpu's are still the main bottleneck

[novel horizon]

everytime i say something around computer games, like graphics or resolution or someone is asking "hey shadow do you know that mod that gives more fps in mc?" and he's like "lol low fps? try playing it in 4k with shaders"

everytime

[tropic flame]

bruh

[novel horizon]

and im like who the hell wants 4k anyway

[tropic flame]

minecraft in 4K is literally just maximizing the window

[novel horizon]

I'm glad I have 1080p 144 Hz

more Hz is so nice

although now I feel like 60Hz is kinda laggy

[tropic flame]

mmmyes blocky game in 4K

i love to see the sharp cube vertices

[novel horizon]

4k though

with shaders u know

[tropic flame]

ok yes

Minecraft 4k in 4K with shaders

that'd be pog

[novel horizon]

tldr; when you talk about fps, resolution or so on games, he's like lol 4k best etc

4k for working? maybe that's nice, but for games ,ew

For me it's 2k more Hz >>> 4k

[tropic flame]

imagine your monitor being so wide you can't even see everything that's going on inside your pair of eyes

you have to rotate your head

[novel horizon]

If I had money and wanted to buy monitor, I'd probably get 2K 120Hz or smth probably

oh yeah lol those exist too, some look nice

[tropic flame]

that must suck for fps games

[novel horizon]

yeah

[tropic flame]

at some point just "peripheral vision" won't do enough

you need to see things clearly

if i believed in my peripheral vision like that then I'd be swatting non-existent flies all the time

[novel horizon]

Yeah in peripheral vision you cannot see that fast / register things that fast as where you focus

[magic river]

Why 1080p 120Hz when 2160p 120Hz exists? 😛

[novel horizon]

sure

[wispy blade]

1080p 480hz bro

[novel horizon]

oh lol

but still

[magic river]

Or 2160p 144Hz

[novel horizon]

that's quite expensive

im okay with the monitor i got

[magic river]

$800 iirc

[novel horizon]

in usa ?

[magic river]

Yeah

[novel horizon]

Would be probably like $1k+ in here

my monitor was like $200

1080p 144Hz

[magic river]

Canuckistan?

[novel horizon]

lol

czech republic

[magic river]

Looks like 900 euros

[novel horizon]

$850 is like one of the cheapest ones on one shop

GIGABYTE M28U

[magic river]

About $1060

https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gn950-b-gaming-monitor is the one I'm talking about

[waxen panther]

[magic river]

27", IPS, 2160p, 144Hz, HDR, G-Sync/FreeSync

I don't know why it's not $1400 like anything else comparable to it would be

[novel horizon]

cheapest one is like about that, $1070 or smth

quite expensive lol

my cpu + my gpu almost

[magic river]

I spent more on monitors than my desktop, for sure

[novel horizon]

and i even got cpu for .. idk why

[magic river]

I have two of those 😛

[novel horizon]

damn

i spent on monitor less than for my cpu lol

and had older one which is really old and good enough for me

[magic river]

Desktop was like $1400 in 2017, those were like $1800 with tax and shipping

[novel horizon]

got 2080 for $550 like 2 years back and 3900X for similar price

[waxen panther]

my 3090 was more than all of these numbers combined

[novel horizon]

that was upgrade, otherwise whole computer before was like under $1k

[magic river]

If I could get a 3070 or 6800 for $700 or less I'd upgrade my GPU otherwise I'm trying to ride it out for another year or so

Although I think those have an MSRP around $700, greedy fuckers 😛

[novel horizon]

yeah it's okay for me

[magic river]

They jacked up their pricing to get more from miners and they still sell out immediately and go for twice the price on ebay

[peak dirge]

Desperate times call for desperate measures. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOZF5qhehh0

[novel horizon]

yeah what can u do

[magic river]

I got a PS5, worst case I'll just play more there

Although with how often I play games at all it probably won't really come up

[novel horizon]

okay that looks horrible

[magic river]

I've got all these toys but I never use them anymore 😛

[peak dirge]

On the other hand, you might be able to play GTA V on a Pentium 4 with this.

[novel horizon]

well, you could, but.. still

it looks horrible and I would rather not play at all lol

it looks nice fore testing, but not for longer playing

fortnite like ew whatever although you could have no idea what's in distance

imagine playing the last of us though like that

[peak dirge]

It's an eye exam, but for PC gaming.

Whatever, thanks to cryptocurrency we have a dystopia where 72p gaming is a thing we must do while the shitcoin miners destroy the planet by burning fossil fuels

[novel horizon]

not like you cannot get any better gpu than that

it sucks though and people even get 3090 like it doesn't matter, idk why

someone i know bought 3090

[static badge]

750TI gang

[novel horizon]

for like $2400

from official shop

and it's like so not worth

[magic river]

GTA5 at 72p looks like old school voxel games

[static badge]

isn't GTA5 like 7 years old now or something

[peak dirge]

It's that mystical moment where you can finally buy a GPU at a mere 2x markup from MSRP! And there is actual stock!

[novel horizon]

i kinda hate gta online

[novel horizon]

it was worse before, but takes so much time to load but what's worse, cheaters, i hate that damn

[magic river]

We used to play games like this

And have fun doing it

[novel horizon]

there's so many people like that there

level 1000 with hundreds of millions $

and cars cost there millions of dollars too

[magic river]

This was back before 3D accelerators were a thing and voxels seemed like a viable future for rendering

Then people decided triangles were the acceleration primitive we should use

Probably because it was easier 😛

[novel horizon]

and you get what? few thousands per mission, new mission is like do 3 things, which takes at least hour or two, and you get maybe like $150k but other people can kill you anyway and take your money/or cancel your mission

[static badge]

anything easier on hardware is probably gonna be better...

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/w5M9MHB5bIs

[novel horizon]

I would like to play ratched and clank kinda

i miss that game

played it on PS2

[tropic flame]

Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper, and Jak and Daxter

the three pillars of the ps2 tbh

and nowadays only one of the pillars is on the active 😔

Sly was supposed to get some sort of movie adaptation but it got canceled iirc

and Jak is just gone

[magic river]

I didn't play any of those on the PS2 😛

It was basically the JRPG machine

[wispy blade]

I hate C++

that will be all, good night

[magic river]

Oh, and I guess my cousins played a lot of Call of Duty and such, back when they were single player games about WW2

Splinter Cell, Syphon Filter

I mostly played FFX and Star Ocean but I had like 20 JRPGs I got cheap that I either played a little of or watched a cousin play

[teal cedar]

just found this in my codebase...

so my question is: how was it working before???

:D

[vestal jasper]

@static badge

[static badge]

@vestal jasper

@vestal jasper

@vestal jasper

[vestal jasper]

Woah !

[toxic bone]

hello

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/t1R7ElXEyag

[void void]

Which domain is better?
io or xyz?

[void void]

for minecraft sv ?

[warm anchor]

whatever you like (?)

[void void]

I like these two domains among all the slopes, but I don't know which one to choose.

[warm anchor]

get both? @void void

[void void]

Which of these two domains do you think is best?

[warm anchor]

xyz reminds me of those old yahoo mail spam

[void void]

But isn't it long?

In my country (Iran) not all domains are cheap Especially the .net domain.

[warm anchor]

You get fucked a lot there

[void void]

just .ir domain

[dry lance]

I just kinda have my name as the domain because I’m going to be using it for other stuff too

Sub domains for the win

[warm anchor]

plan to move out?

[void void]

In my opinion the xyz amplitude is beautiful but I'm afraid it's long
example : play.xxmc.xyz

[warm anchor]

Literally all the Iranian I met hated the country

though I've only met 5 not many

[void void]

A country where you can't buy plugins for sanctions reasons, nor can you buy services from sites outside Iran

You'll understand on your own.

[novel horizon]

wtf is that

the video is

so wtf

ill explain what is wtf

[warm anchor]

shadow watch them will lower your IQ

[novel horizon]

np

its whatever

im already at the bottom 😦

he uses some client that is almost unfindable lol

[void void]

@warm anchor play.xxmc.xyz You don't think this domain seems long?

[novel horizon]

what

[warm anchor]

I cant remember the last time I manually type in an url

so I dont think the length is ever gonig to be an issue

[novel horizon]

For some reason, on his server on localhost is "store.hypixel.net" etc

me confusion

it seems interesting to me because i use authme

[void void]

hmmmm no .cf is bitter

[novel horizon]

okay

now im confused

he has some world download in the video description

for what.. ??

[void void]

I mean in terms of beauty

[novel horizon]

okay now that's

[warm anchor]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

[novel horizon]

https://github.com/masonrapa/Griefing-Methods he has github

[void void]

omegacraft server uses ml domain

[novel horizon]

??

wtf is this

[void void]

I was also tempted to the ml domain.

[novel horizon]

okay but this video description is kinda nice

[vestal jasper]

The first link I click on makes the claim that using an intended admin command for its purpose is an exploit

[novel horizon]

Yep

I am quite confused

[vestal jasper]

Gonna go ahead and say that link is not worth reading

[warm anchor]

xDD

[novel horizon]

That's what I sent as the screen above

you wanna exploit plugin? disable it with plugman

[warm anchor]

The guide is made under the premise that the server is runnnig offline mode

[novel horizon]

yeah but still it's not possible I think, how would that work O_o

if it would there would be shitton of things like that everywhere

and also "fake ip" so you can put anything there? what

https://github.com/masonrapa/Griefing-Methods/blob/master/Bypassing/UUIDSpoof - Fix.md

Pog look what i found

oh what a shame

"bungeecord vulnerability"

O_o

the plugin he mentioned for real has a default nickname for exempt uuid check

[pale river]

Just follow the bungee firewall guide or use velocity with modern forwarding

[novel horizon]

yeah those "exploits" are useless

and why use bungeecord when you can use waterfall

i thought it looked interesting

[golden gust]

I mean, it's as much a vulnerability as much as people are lazy and don't know how to pull their finger out of their asses

Yea, it exists, you are warned about it, the docs include mitigation info, people are lazy and then don't do it and get attacked

[limber knot]

For some reason, whenever a player on my server teleports or joins into loaded chunks they seem to lag out a bunch and often disconnect

[ashen cliff]

md5 being default Admin on Bungee instances.
Also default permissions.yml.

[vernal bone]

Yes, when installing a new software, you should never check the config, or the settings, it will be fine as it is!

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-07-31_09-25-14.png

My favorite one.

Especially because I discovered it.

Also daily VPS issues: https://posili.me/i/2021-07-31_09-29-18.png

[wooden kettle]

so you're telling me a shrimp fried this rice?

[ashen cliff]

Yes.

[vernal bone]

Whmcs at it's finest

They recently raised the prices, again.

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/whmcs.com

Customers do not like it

[ashen cliff]

[golden gust]

WHMCS is pretty trash but it's the defacto "slap it on a box and charge people for it" solution so they've pretty much got the monopoly there

[potent fossil]

SIMPLE'S SUMMERHOST GUIDE 5 EZ STEP:

1. buy serbur
2. buy domain, bonus points for free tld
3. rip template
4. install ptero
5. install whmcs

[golden gust]

6. Pay for WHMCS months down the line when somebody calls you out for it

[vernal bone]

4, use a cracked ptero install script
5, nulled whmcs license

[potent fossil]

no 6 would be shut down and run when that happens

it's summerhost not legithost guide

gfdi cat

[golden gust]

Tbqh, they generally purchase WHMCS and then die a month or two after that when they figure out that they're generally screwed for budgeting or actually pulling people into their 0 effort host

[nimble depot]

Meanwhile me:
Buy domain, buy hetzner(or whatever is decided and cheapest) and slap proxmox on it.
And now comes the fun part: writing the rest

[potent fossil]

Proxmox is pretty sexy

[nimble depot]

I use Proxmox on my cloud stuff

ESXi is what I use at home

[potent fossil]

I used to use it for my personal stuff when I had a fat dedi and wanted to separate into VMs but I'm over that now lol

[nimble depot]

Still learning how to kubernetes

And you have servers who dockerise absolutely everything.

[potent fossil]

I do dockerize everything nowadays

Just way easier

[ashen cliff]

Now instead of VMs you have containers.

[potent fossil]

yea lol, it's just easier to manage

1 host many containers instead of many hosts

but thats me, im sure i could've orchestrated the many hosts in some way to make it ez but whatever

[vernal bone]

The moment when ip a returns more interfaces that can fit on your screen

[potent fossil]

ip a|less

[ashen cliff]

Ah yes, the 1000 bridges switch.

#general message

[boreal frost]

our bedwar server is crashing

[potent fossil]

congrats

[novel horizon]

that sucks i guess

[boreal frost]

the error is Exception ticking world

what does that mean

[potent fossil]

it means something in the world is fucked up

[golden gust]

This is the offtopic channel, provide logs in the correct channel

[novel horizon]

there was an error while ticking world or smth like that

kinda that, so

🤷‍♂️

[boreal frost]

like world coruption?

[potent fossil]

#paper-help, send full latest.log file

this aint the right channel

[novel horizon]

send the logs or info in that channel ^^

[boreal frost]

kk sorry bro

[vernal bone]

Bro!

[potent fossil]

No bro, this is not a Bro! moment

[vernal bone]

[ashen cliff]

Bro.

It's always a bro moment.

[vernal bone]

Sorry bro.

[potent fossil]

It's a bro moment or a Bro. moment but not a Bro! moment, bro

come on bro

[boreal frost]

btw my other developer already posted that

[potent fossil]

Ok well if you want help post it again

[golden gust]

We don't provide support for software which isn't ours

[potent fossil]

entire latest.log, not the specific little portion

[boreal frost]

we are using airplane

[golden gust]

Yes.

Which is not paper

[potent fossil]

Ok this is a Bro. moment

[ashen cliff]

Fact bro.

[boreal frost]

sad

[vernal bone]

Yes bro.

[novel horizon]

damn bros

[boreal frost]

lyf

[potent fossil]

Go ask airplane support??? lmao

Where your head at

[novel horizon]

why do people do that.. i dont mean asking here, but sending just a short text of those errors

[boreal frost]

airplane guys sucks

[novel horizon]

they're scared of people seeing your plugins and info

[potent fossil]

Then use Paper

[ashen cliff]

Also, why TF are you using Airplane on a bedwars server?

[potent fossil]

If it happens on Paper we'll help you then

[boreal frost]

;-;

[potent fossil]

If they "sucks" then stop using their software

Engage your neurons

[novel horizon]

just ask airplane they'll help you kindly

🙂

[vernal bone]

[boreal frost]

actually we tried all but they all are crashing

[potent fossil]

Btw did y'all know your intestines have neurons in them, literal 2nd brain

[golden gust]

That's either a server bug or you have a plugin mangling entities

[novel horizon]

well there's different problem then, again, you need to provide full logs anyway

[vernal bone]

[potent fossil]

Ok use Paper and then show us the full latest.log file in #paper-help and we'll help you then

End of

[novel horizon]

neurons? isnt that like nerve cells, so in theory, they're everywhere?

[potent fossil]

neurons are brain cells

their entire job is to generate action potentials which can manifest into actual action

[boreal frost]

ok then wait for again crashing

[potent fossil]

so 2nd brain in your gut

[potent fossil]

yes

[boreal frost]

good point toh

[peak ginkgo]

Looks like an Airplane bug

[novel horizon]

[potent fossil]

.g ENS 2nd brain

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32572435/

[novel horizon]

but deeejay they tried everything

nice simple

[potent fossil]

that'd be the CNS, central nervous system which yea, i suppose has a few endings throughout but all nerves != neurons

but anyway whatever

[novel horizon]

yeah, not exactly the same

[potent fossil]

am gonna go think with my belly now

[golden gust]

Who ya' gonna call?

[novel horizon]

nice

skeletron

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9XcDKNoZ1g

I got the wrong one

[novel horizon]

nah the skeletron is better

🙂

i still need to beat moon lord and lunar events damn

but i left it as it was

kinda hard >.< and i dont find fun in a lot of things, i get bored quickly these days

[potent fossil]

Well, I'ma have yet another niece to buy birthday presents for pretty soon

Sigh

More robux I guess

[novel horizon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAx7Rr4hFD4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRn99oN1p_c

[cosmic raft]

nah

[twin lagoon]

weebs

[novel horizon]

me not weeb

[cosmic raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3aqR_n3sM4

[novel horizon]

but

whatever

[cosmic raft]

:)

[novel horizon]

ew no

:/

[static badge]

w

e

e

e

b

[novel horizon]

i watched few episodes of boruto today, suddenly, but i wasn't watching them at all before, was interesting though to watch few

[static badge]

detected

[golden gust]

leaf getting better at avoiding the spam mute

[static badge]

my expertise

[golden gust]

brb, going to tweak it

[peak ginkgo]

it's 6/5 i think for the spam mute by default

[novel horizon]

the only thing i watched was naruto, although i saw that like 15y ago or smth

[void void]

Its hard to develop without Internet

[peak ginkgo]

6 messages 5 seconds

[void void]

Whats the groupId of hikaricp?

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCs7FacjHQY

[novel horizon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RAjCiW67Mc

[peak ginkgo]

com.zaxxer

[novel horizon]

this one thing was kinda nice

[void void]

Fuck.. I dont have this one in my local repo

[novel horizon]

that video is so nice

i've seen it multiple times

and at 5:15 damn ❤️

[wispy blade]

almost went to belgium today

[ashen cliff]

almost

[glad narwhal]

recently i've installed canvas protection extension for firefox, and i noticed that spigotmc uses canvas tracking thing, does that mean that spigot is evil and trying to spy after its users?

[ashen cliff]

Yes.

It's called marketing bro.

[potent fossil]

They're running ads, and those ads will try to fingerprint your browser so as to track you across the web so they can show you ads related to what you search for on the internet. Which is the source of people being like "ERMAGHURDZ I SEARCHED FOR LE DOG FOOD AND NOW ADS ARE LE POOPING UP EVERYWHERE ABOUT DOG FOODS SPIES!"

just get a good ad blocker

hey @ashen cliff wanna hear a joke

[glad narwhal]

i'm using a fine adblocker, i don't see any ads anywhere

[potent fossil]

k well u can block the canvas too i guess

w/e

[ashen cliff]

Yes.

[potent fossil]

whatd snowwhite say when she got to the ball

oh wait

cinderella

whatever

what'd she say

bro

[ashen cliff]

Bro. No idea.

[potent fossil]

https://voca.ro/1hlKwXuIsxV7

[pine gate]

how i can desactivate the message of online mode off

[potent fossil]

she said that

[ashen cliff]

Epic.

[potent fossil]

we dont support offline mode, so ask elsewhere

[potent fossil]

thank u

[pine gate]

why 😭

[potent fossil]

because it's piracy and we don't do that here

[potent fossil]

https://offlinemo.de/

Go there.

[pine gate]

but if a kid is poor and don't have money for buy minecraft what they do, and want to make a no premium server

[potent fossil]

I really don't care my guy

We've heard every excuse in the book

[pine gate]

why 😭

[potent fossil]

It's not supported

Go search for a plugin that removes the message elsewhere

Try mcmarket or something

I've heard they don't care

[pine gate]

ok, thanks for the """help"""...

[potent fossil]

No problem bro!

[frank otter]

don't things like bungeecord and velocity need offline mode

[potent fossil]

They need the backend server running in offline mode, because the proxy itself runs in online mode and handles the authentication on behalf of the actual paper server

So, yes, but no.

If you run both in offline mode, it's the same story. Not supported.

[pine gate]

if offline mode is not supported why is in the server.prop file

[potent fossil]

That's a mojang setting, for one, not paper. But also it's a development tool

It's not made so you can steal the game

But you can misuse it all you like

You don't get entitled to support when you steal the game

That is what you're doing by the way

Stealing.

So go figure it out on your own

I've already told you another place you can go

[pine gate]

ok

but if I have offline mode I can get support to no?

[potent fossil]

Most people here will not support you when you run it

Some might. But it'd be a lucky chance.

Go to mcmarket and most people actually will

[pine gate]

i will test

[potent fossil]

k

[pine gate]

guatefuk you have 24 years

[golden gust]

wat

[potent fossil]

what lol

[full rune]

wat

[pine gate]

what is redhat??¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿¿??¿

[potent fossil]

A linux distribution.

[pine gate]

oh...

ubuntu best

[potent fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-sure-jan-sarcastic-brady-bunch-gif-11590179

[pine gate]

or maybe debian???¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?

[potent fossil]

Can you relax

Just a little bit

[pine gate]

no

[vernal moth]

Red hat was a wonderful company that provided sustainability for open source projects by employing maintainers and selling support contracts to big companies

Now they are a part of IBM so all hope is lost

They already trippled our bill at work, we migrating away from all red hat stuff this year

[potent fossil]

[pine gate]

but you need to pay a lot for using redhat

[vernal moth]

Seriously, fuck IBM

No, red hats software was all open source

You only paid for support

[potent fossil]

I remember my company had a contract with Hyland for half a million a quarter to use OnBase

[vernal moth]

Like it should be

[potent fossil]

I was the system owner of that app

Was absolute hell

[twin lagoon]

can i get a support contract for my 1.8 server

[vernal moth]

Simple, get on my level, I pay for CPU cycles on my DB server

[potent fossil]

[vernal moth]

Sure Michael, my hourly rate for that is 500 euro

[potent fossil]

I mean yea that was just the software tho not even the infra it was running on

[vernal moth]

IBMs mainframe contracts are cursed

We have been in a migration away from it for a decade now, and will take another two with current projections

[golden gust]

IBM is cursed

[potent fossil]

We had 2 IBM mainframes in our MDF room but I didn't work on them. Only went in there to access this old 2003 unnetworked server

I'm in the mainframe

Not as exciting as it sounds.

Anyway I'm going to bed

[golden gust]

k, now

do cobol

[vernal moth]

Our mainframe looks hella fancy, even more fancy than the emc2 boxes

IBM knows how to give nice visuals so the execs know what their are buying for literally tens of millions a year

It got all fancy shapes and LEDs and shit

[golden gust]

Hey, if you're gonna be done in the pooper you want it to look pretty

[vernal moth]

But emc2 comes close seconds

[potent fossil]

yea they did look very sexy but the people who worked on them did not look like they were generally happy with how their lives turned on

[vernal moth]

Their blue light gives off spaceship vibes

[potent fossil]

turned out*

[vernal moth]

And considering the boxes we have house literally dozens of pets bytes, they are kinda like a spaceship

I don't understand Cobol people

Like, it would be trivial to make their life so much better

Write some scripts and sync all code into fucking git and use a fucking ide to write code, test locally, then deploy

You know, how software works in the 21th

But no, they stuck in the 70s and use an emulated 3270 interface

Its called 3270 because you have a resolution of 32x70 characters

I think they upped it to 80 nowaday, literally wide screen

[heady lintel]

@vivid jasper Hi

[twin lagoon]

what the fuck is a mainframe really

i've never understood

[heady lintel]

@twin lagoon What is that 🛡️ Batch in your profile?

[twin lagoon]

click on it

[vernal moth]

It's just a big computer Michael

In old days, you only had one computer and hundreds of terminals to it

Which were just dum IO machines

[heady lintel]

I'm in mobile so I can't click on it or hover

*I

[golden gust]

big computer with specialised hardware and software designed in an archaic time

[vernal moth]

In extended color mode these terminals had 8 colors or so!

Not 8bit, just 8

[golden gust]

I mean, they're not designed for looking

[vernal moth]

It's a relic from another time but companies forgot to migrate away in 1990

[golden gust]

and do IBM even offer a proper emulator or wasn't it just 3rd party potentially questionable solutions for it?

[vernal moth]

So we stuck

Idk we use no IBM one

Prolly a 1000 usd per seat licence

That's what they charged us for their eclipse fork iirc

Eclipse 2.4 or something, ancient shit ware, just to write websphere shit

Really, fuck IBM and everything they stand for

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@twin lagoon

[vernal moth]

Don't get me started on lotus notes domino bullshit

[ashen cliff]

IBM

[vernal moth]

First ever document DB, but already cursed

[twin lagoon]

@minor badge mari pog

[vernal moth]

You can think of mongo db as lotus notes domino with a good PR department

[golden gust]

Okay, but, here's the thing

how would they charge for support if they made good software?

[plucky sparrow]

I find mongodb pretty interesting

I should try it out

[golden gust]

That's the one winning thing for IBM is that all of their stuff is pretty much self contained in a sense and migrating from it is often a huge mult-year project for any component you'd wanna start tryna migrate away from it for

[vernal moth]

It's shitty hype software dap

[golden gust]

Mongo is good for where you have an actual usecase for it, but, many use-cases seem to be "I don't wanna write a proper database"

mongos done a lot to make such use-cases hurt less, but, just, eer...

[vernal moth]

IBM wants to charge us 5 usd per use we want to show their documents for. They argue that even if we use a technical user to authenticate against their documentation shit, we have to pay for every single of our customers

Really, fuck IBM

Mongo has one single usecase: logging, tracing and shit like that. Data that you don't kind loosing

[golden gust]

Well, yea, it's cos they know people are either stuck on their platform or migrating away so they just wanna milk the cow for every drop it's got before it hits the dirt

[vernal moth]

Now am sitting on this project we came up with to reduce the amount of letters we send to reduce environmental impact and save money, literally millions, but IBM destroys the buisness case

So go tell your kids, IBM is the reasons the forrest are dying

[ashen cliff]

At least you don't have to pay per DB connection.

[plucky sparrow]

Ohh what

:(

[limber knot]

don't use IBM/Oracle shit kids :)

[worn ember]

[plucky sparrow]

I can’t escape sql it seems

[limber knot]

context?

[plucky sparrow]

Wait doesn’t Discord use mongodb

[ashen cliff]

[limber knot]

pretty sure, yeah. one of the many reasons it's shit

[ashen cliff]

Used to.

[limber knot]

might've been an old article I've read, what do they use now?