austere ivy
yeah USBdumb like that
#general
wispy blade
US B dumb like that*
brave radish
yes, you are legally allowed to look for dupes in Paper
but it'd be better if you were to report any that you found to Paper privately rather than putting them on YouTube for people to ruin servers with them
Paper and its components are licensed under a combination of the GPL, the Apache License, and the Mojang EULA, none of which prevent looking for dupes
However, the Discord ToS does prevent sharing any dupe you may find in public, which is yet another reason you should report your discoveries to Paper developers instead
waxen panther
i dont think discord are going to enforce that for a server fork lol
brave radish
they totally aren't but sssshhhh
left swift
hi broccowai
brave radish
they don't enforce the rest of it either
cunning raft
discord only cares about communities that spreading hacking tools
they don't give a shit about dupes
brave radish
I'm just tryna make them not go to the dark side
void void
8.8.8.8 better
void void
but it'd be better if you were to report any that you found to Paper privately r...
putting stuff i find on youtube
i dont do videos
neither do i share with others in general
void void
*I'm just tryna make them not go to the dark side*
also who's them?
void void
ohhh
brave radish
which is YouTube
brave radish
well I hope you report them anyway
daring laurel
how does the minecraft client read texture packs? interestingly i've found a texture pack that 7z cant open but mc can
(neither can default zip opener with windows)
brave radish
🤔 how big is the pack?
daring laurel
1.4mb
brave radish
well not that then 😅 yeah idk
void void
how does the minecraft client read texture packs? interestingly i've found a tex...
Decompile Minecraft and check
regal iris
how can i disable spawners dropping exp?
people can silktouch them but my plugins not stoping it drop xp
novel horizon
Either use better plugin or set it in config to not drop xp @regal iris
regal iris
i have it still drops it
plucky sparrow
don't you just love it when your ISP doesn't let you change the DNS server from your router
worthy geode
how does the minecraft client read texture packs? interestingly i've found a tex...
Its missing some .zip file metadata. Look at PackSquash to see how that can be done
worn ember
don't you just love it when your ISP doesn't let you change the DNS server from ...
you can change it on your system tho
plucky sparrow
you can change it on your system tho
Yeah but it’s still shit
worn ember
¯_(ツ)_/¯
plucky sparrow
Why wouldn’t they let you change it
worn ember
cuz they want all the data they can get from you
lavish compass
don't you just love it when your ISP doesn't let you change the DNS server from ...
then don't use ISP's provided router
peak ginkgo
Google dns server
Cringe https://1.1.1.1/dns
limpid comet
then don't use ISP's provided router
The real solution
golden gust
some ISPs do make it a PITA to roll your own
I guess most of them these days have "modem mode"
such a PITA how feature limited these devices can be
My current router has a fucking intel atom in it apparently
vernal moth
It's EU law that they have to give out the creds to use your own router
Oh wait
You guys left the cool kids club
wispy blade
olive marlin
It's EU law that they have to give out the creds to use your own router
Hmm, not so long ago we had one where you could only change the name and password through the web UI, couldn't use router directly. As soon as you connected to the internet, it'd reconfigure itself from scratch, nuking everything manual in case you got in.
You could reset it and use default password, but then that'd get lost when you connected it to ISP.
vernal moth
For some ISPs you gotta call support for them to give out VDSL credentials
But they can't remove manage 3rd party routers, how would they
vestal jasper
by combining the receiver and the router
vernal moth
Oh cable is different bullshit
No clue how that is handled
But DSL it's painless here, ISP just sends you all the details together with the ISP provided router
golden gust
over here with vdsl they generally give you the credentials in the welcome packet
vernal moth
Just checked, this applies to cable too
Gotta be able to use your own router
Apperently the activation process is more painful tho
topaz mortar
Oh cable is different bullshit
No problem here.
A splitter/modem with rj45 out and custom router on the other side of the lan cable.
vernal moth
That means you still use ISP provided hardware, lol
The goal is to avoid any hardware you don't control or worse, have to rent
olive marlin
But you wanna be able to bridge it too, otherwise it'll not give you a lot of available connection.
Yeah, I believe you can't do that easily here.
golden gust
Back in the old days my ISP used to have the modem and the router as seperate, you'd just get their branded motorola DOCSIS modem and some shitty netgear router
topaz mortar
That means you still use ISP provided hardware, lol
Won't buy a router with coax cable support.
golden gust
now all the ISPs roll their stuff into one box
virgins router seems pretty okay, at least, I've not had too many issues with it bar the rando once a month reboot
vernal moth
Won't buy a router with coax cable support.
That's your issue. You can tho, that's the whole point. You got the freedom to roll your own hardware. 99% obviously don't give a shit
vestal jasper
Yeah all my stuff's one box, I can't really remove it without either extreme difficulty or fucktons of luck
merry talon
If you can't change dns settings, you could route the IP to your own dns server and then forward them
vernal moth
If it's not from avm or ubiquity it's not gonna touch my network
topaz mortar
Back in the old days my ISP used to have the modem and the router as seperate, y...
We have the docsis modem and I replaced the Netgear router because 802.11.g was just to slow.
golden gust
I mean, I'da just replaced the netgear router coz it was netgear
vernal moth
I wanna jam up my wifi so high that I have wifi in the cafe at the corner
golden gust
Netgear is comical, their ethernet stuff is solid af but their wifi chips are fucking trash
vernal moth
Gotta use the Japan outdoor Mode for full power 😂
I got 5ghz thru two walls
So there's that
golden gust
I got a cable running all the way around the bed/living room for my desktop
vernal moth
Same, lol
golden gust
shamefully can't ditch wifi fully, but, it works
topaz mortar
That's your issue. You can tho, that's the whole point. You got the freedom to r...
Will probably buy my own coax router when switching home.
vernal moth
25 meter cat6e cable go brrrrrr
merry talon
wifi 6 
golden gust
My cable that I brought with me was only giving me like 100 Mbps
ended up using some other cable which somebody had left who lived here before me and now my switch is flashing with the sweet, sweet 1Gbps lights
vernal moth
I somehow got twice switches in a single apartment
Two*
I just got so many devices
And all go to the router with this one 25m cat6e around my sleeping corner
golden gust
Yea, I got a switch near my desk just for convenience
topaz mortar
Ubiquity needs a coax router.
golden gust
I bought it years ago when I first went to uni
golden gust
The wifi in the dorms where fucking trash, and so I just got a switch and plugged it into their network and boom, it worked
No
vernal moth
It's inferior to fiber in every way
golden gust
Well
merry talon
Except cost
topaz mortar
Nobody needs coax
Better than this Vectoring twisted pair shit.
golden gust
The issue is final mile
merry talon
And ISPs love cheap costs
vernal moth
Yet we still wasting money on this dead end technology
golden gust
I mean, docsis still goes beyond the needs of the average household
vernal moth
We got super vectoring for last mile till we get fiber to the building everywhere
topaz mortar
Yet we still wasting money on this dead end technology
Yeah fiber would be the best.
vernal moth
And in many cases we already have fiber to the building
merry talon
At this point latency is more important to me than speed
topaz mortar
We got super vectoring for last mile till we get fiber to the building everywher...
super vectoring is just shitty.
merry talon
There's no reason I should have 85ms to a server in cali
golden gust
there was newer variants which offered more but they didn't seem to be all that much in use
vernal moth
Coz, like, last I knew VDSL was sub 100Mbps range
Super vectoring goes to 250
golden gust
fibre final mile would be nice, but, until ISPs actually start offering it and installing it, I'd sooner have docsis
golden gust
provisioned or just theoretical?
golden gust
Over here, best you can get through VDSL is 75Mbps
vernal moth
It's not coax, you get what you pay for
I actual have fiber in my basement but why would I bother
golden gust
Coax can deliver gigabit
topaz mortar
Coax can deliver gigabit
Docsis 3.1 can deliver up to 10 Gigabits.
vernal moth
It's also way less stable overall
golden gust
I've had much more stability from docsis over the years than I've ever had from vdsl
vernal moth
Go look at the log of your router, it's a mess
According to this map in my city 75-95% of houses have FTTB
worn ember
which doctors sister?
full rune
golden gust
our infra in general is a bit of a mess and they're aiming to get rid of all the old copper lines and such, which doesn't help, but, I've had much better stability over the years with DOCSIS vs the daily dropouts with vdsl
vernal moth
93% actually
topaz mortar
According to this map in my city 75-95% of houses have FTTB
You live in a Youtuber city. 😄
vernal moth
I live in a progressive city where the city owns the ISP and invests into it
I also live in a city with a green government
We got good internet before the YouTubers arrived
worn ember
wtf, sign me up
vernal moth
Fun fact, every school in my city has FTTB and wifi
Cause the city owned ISP provides that to the city owned schools
worn ember
i mean ours do too but its usually so trash you might aswel not have any
vernal moth
Also manages all the computers and servers, so the IT infra at our school is actually good
golden gust
ISPs here are private owned and the government semi oversighted ISP is fucking trash
worn ember
^^
vernal moth
i mean ours do too but its usually so trash you might aswel not have any
10gbe
topaz mortar
I live in a progressive city where the city owns the ISP and invests into it
Frankfurt and the surrounding won't see such a good coverage in the next 10 year.
vernal moth
Frankfurt and the surrounding won't see such a good coverage in the next 10 year...
Blame that on your government
golden gust
We have open reach and virgin
topaz mortar
Yep
golden gust
There are a few smaller companies but they only really deal with appartment blocks or businesses
vernal moth
Wer hat uns verraten? Sozialdemokraten
worn ember
🚷
vernal moth
Can't wait for the federal election
vague ermine
Can peper prevent crystal aura? No one can use it in the overworld. I have 0 anticheats.
topaz mortar
"Internet ist Neuland."
void void
Can peper prevent crystal aura? No one can use it in the overworld. I have 0 ant...
Check it on spigot
limber knotBOT
das internet gibt es nicht
limber knotBOT
yes
potent fossil
i dont speak german
limber knotBOT
then we need to make you do it
potent fossil
I know "Frau"
wispy blade
Fraulein simple
potent fossil
What
limber knotBOT
If anything it is Fräulein
potent fossil
I prefer Tagalog's word for that
You just get to call everyone Bb
for binibini
Much better lang
green turret
Alright, it's time. I don't want to be sick anymore. Who has the cure for my sore throat and headache and stuffy nose? Fork it over, chumps!
limber knotBOT
honey
green turret
That's Mr. Mule to you, good sir.
potent fossil
good luck not being sick mule
frank otter
for `binibini`
there's a word like this in Arabic
I cant remember it but it's like equivalent to dude or homie or bro or all those kind of terms
topaz mortar
Was it binhabibi ?
potent fossil
interesting
potent fossil
This is really cool, wtf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssZ_8cqfBlE
merry talon
Ur cool
potent fossil
no u 
plucky sparrow
This is really cool, wtf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssZ_8cqfBlE
I saw this on my feed but it didn’t catch my attention
potent fossil
I skipped it at first but I watch all of tom's videos at some point or another
Decided to go watch, was cool
pastel pivot
Wtf is this shit: Why does mc wiki display sites differently? E.g. https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Lava_Bucket and https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Lava.
formal turret
eugh mobile first design
unkempt drift
I really dont like how fandom has taken over gamepedia
have been a big contributor to gamepedia wikis (2 in particular) but kinda got less motivated when I found out they were taking over like this
obtuse shuttle
I don't get why fandom feels the need to insert their brand into everything
it's a wiki, why do users need to "connect the brand"
long fog
what did the UI just change today?
worn ember
Damn son. Calm down it's just a website
formal turret
well it's different than i last looked at it
i think it looked more like gamepedia a couple weeks ago
and it definitely wasn't mobile first 😠
worn ember
Go with the times lol
long fog
oh no... its ugly and less usable... why is only half the horiztonal space allocated to the actual content
obtuse shuttle
Damn son. Calm down it's just a website
i'm not angry, was just reading their announcement page
worn ember
Send link
obtuse shuttle
unkempt drift
Also ads galore
formal turret
wasn't amazon in possession of gamepedia before selling it to fandom?
unkempt drift
My gamepedia Pro may have run out tho, that might be why I think there are way more
pastel pivot
Yeah in my opinion it just looks overloaded with unnecessary shit and uses a bigger font combined with less space for text. That's awful.
wispy blade
yup
unkempt drift
it used to be way more like wikipedia, simple, nothing crazy going on
formal turret
oh hell yea, that is better
long fog
ikr
wispy blade
also: where darkmode
formal turret
wispy blade
least you can ask for
unkempt drift
there is darkmode
worthy geode
I kinda like it, except for the sidebar
wispy blade
yeah the sidebar is really obnoxious
and on small screens (like mine) the popular pages thing still takes up about 1/5 of the screen
worthy geode
Fixed using uBlock
obtuse shuttle
found a way to revert it, for now
long fog
how
unkempt drift
Appearance preferences
unkempt drift
Set back the the Hydra skin
worthy geode
Fixed using uBlock
If anyone wants to just block the sidebar/pages stuff (and the annoying stuff at the bottom, lol)
! 2021-07-05 https://minecraft.fandom.com
minecraft.fandom.com##.page__right-rail
minecraft.fandom.com###WikiaBar
minecraft.fandom.com##.global-navigation
minecraft.fandom.com###mixed-content-footer
minecraft.fandom.com##.wds-global-footer
(for uBlock origin)
golden gust
This is the horrors of trusting a rando company to manage our "critical" stuff
worthy geode
Game Devs should self host their wikis imo, but its rarely done sadly
Also wiki.minecraft.net would be just a lot fancier than some random fandom domain, lul
wispy blade
oh thats much better thanks malfra
golden gust
Issue is the whole "somebody has to maintain it"
worthy geode
Seeing how important a Wiki can be for some games, that absolutely can be the responsibility of the dev
golden gust
companies love to pass off the responsibility to volunteer or some other 3rd party who manages the hosting with volunteer run stuff
Devs don't maintain the documentation though, that's the thing (and it shows)
Documentation is something devs tend to hate because words and stuff when they wanna deal with other stuff
wispy blade
like improving their program
worthy geode
They would only need to provide some servers for hosting and maybe some administration, the rest can be done by the community. I don't expect the devs to write it 😄
Only Wiki I have used that does that really well is the Guild Wars 2 wiki, haven't seen any other company that hosts their wiki, or at least I don't remember any other wiki
wispy blade
osu! does it too
unkempt drift
factorio hosts their own wiki right?
worthy geode
they do, but the Factorio devs seem pretty great in general
golden gust
smaller company where outsourcing the management of that stuff is generally not done or the community steps up for it
wat
golden gust
Travertine no longer supports 1.7, and there are many alternatives out there
outside of that, I've got no idea what you're talking about
true canyon
But travertine isn't paper or derived from spigot.
golden gust
it's a singular patch in the trav repo ^
true canyon
Your statement makes no sense.
grand pewter
i didnt even know paper had a 1.7 version (if it even does)
its not on the downloads page XD
true canyon
Your comment about 1.7 support is like, 7 years out of date then 😕
potent fossil
What did I just walk into
grand pewter
someone trying to use 1.7 in 2021
golden gust
literally nothing has changed in regards to 1.7 in years
true canyon
Minecraft 1.7.10 is 7 years, 0 months, and 9 days old today.
Nobody here understands why you're suddenly commenting about 1.7 now. What changed on our side in years?
potent fossil
So why does that mean you can't just keep using the jar you're using now
grand pewter
ok so why does your decision mean anyone needs to support it
potent fossil
Spigot doesn't update 1.7 either, they just let it be downloaded
What's the issue?
golden gust
"I'm upset that paper stopped supporting 1.7 years ago and so Im forced to move towards another software which hasn't supported 1.7 for years either"
potent fossil
I mean, you can still get a paper 1.7 jar from somewhere I'm sure, and it sounds like this person already has one. Neither Paper nor Spigot update those anymore at all...so, why do you need to switch? You can if you want to...but? Like, what's the problem
worthy geode
1.7? Some players are probably younger than this
potent fossil
Oh so you're here to request patch backporting to 1.7?
No.
Not even spigot does that lmao
true canyon
This doesn't explain anything about your comment about dropping 1.7 support. 😄
golden gust
We don't have the time to maintain every single version people think we MUST maintain
potent fossil
You're more than welcome to fork Paper back at 1.7 and maintain and backport patches yourself tho
golden gust
The good news is that paper is free, open source software, so you are more than able to fork it yourself and manage the backporting of stuff
potent fossil
No one wants to maintain 1.7, not even for payment. Unless that payment is 100K/yr with benefits.
true canyon
This statement still makes no sense in the context we've become aware of since this comment was made.
worthy geode
Its torture tho, you are literally missing half of the minecraft updates, even more 😄
potent fossil
Welcome to fork maintenance
waxen panther
does he mean travertine orrrrrrrrr
true canyon
No one wants to maintain 1.7, not even for payment. Unless that payment is 100K/...
That's what my top tier is for! 🤣
potent fossil
No
wraith oracle
Its torture tho, you are literally missing half of the minecraft updates, even m...
I think it isn't the point, nor they are asking for something unreasonable
ripe sphinx
does he mean travertine orrrrrrrrr
do you think this massive discussion would have happened if it was that simple 😛
true canyon
Removing "top tier" link above and replacing with this image in case someone seriously thinks I'm advertising, because this is a joke.
golden gust
It's already a lot of effort to maintain the supported versions, theres lots of stuff we need to do before we could even consider supporting some outdated versions, and not enough people are generally commited to maintaining something that old, hence why there are very few projects doing it
potent fossil
This isn't the place
magic ice
this person is totally a troll
potent fossil
Hire your own dev team and fork the free open source code
golden gust
theres one or two projects which have tried to maintain outdated versions but generally not done by people who have the skills or investment into it
true canyon
You still haven't explained how this statement makes any sense
Our custom fork utilized certain aspects of Paper so we'll have to block it out and become a Spigot fork instead.
potent fossil
No shit
worthy geode
I think it isn't the point, nor they are asking for something unreasonable
They are asking for updates for an old as fck version, running that is unreasonable, maintaining is even more unreasonable
mighty storm
thats.. kinda sad
true canyon
You still haven't explained how this statement makes any sense
Our custom fork utilized certain aspects of Paper so we'll have to block it out and become a Spigot fork instead.
worthy geode
You could have saved that money by just using a decently up-to-date version, lol
potent fossil
I'm quite sure this person is a troll at this point
true canyon
10k is pretty low for what you'd need to pay for proper maintenance and improvement over time.
mighty storm
you dont understand, we NEED to be 6 years out of date
magic ice
They’re definitely a troll
true canyon
you dont understand, we NEED to be 6 years out of date
Seven.
worthy geode
Isn't Minecraft only 10? lol
twin lagoon
mighty storm
a severe lack of rory
twin lagoon
well yes send more rory in #adorable-pets
wraith oracle
I mean, that's kinda the deal when you are willingly staying on widely unsupported software, you just gotta spend a ton of money to keep it up and running
true canyon
Seven years ago I did my last MC update. Time flies!
golden gust
I mean, $10k is not a lot when it comes to contracting for a loooong project
true canyon
I think it's hilarious that they're deliberately dodging my request to clarify their initial statements.
potent fossil
what the fuck did i join into
person says it's paper's job to maintain 1.7 for them and that they aren't willing to 'spend $10000' for their dev team to do "paper's job" """no offense""" 💋
twin lagoon
shit i need more context
golden gust
It's not our job to maintain paper either
golden gust
This is not our job.
mighty storm
just download paper 1.17, rename the jar to paper-1.7, load it, not that hard
worthy geode
The only reason its wasted is because its an ancient version that nobody outside of modpacks uses anyways
potent fossil
Yes you did
true canyon
just download paper 1.17, rename the jar to paper-1.7, load it, not that hard
This is why we pay you the big bucks.
potent fossil
I can't even imagine the sheer magnitude of this person's feelings of entitlement 
mighty storm
based playerbase
potent fossil
what does cheatbreaker have to do with papermc
they're just trying to flaunt importance in the hope that it makes paper want to do this for them
100%
twin lagoon
1.7 is dying anyways so that's been happening already
worthy geode
Its like going to Microsoft and asking them if they could update Word for my 1970s typewriter, lol
twin lagoon
no need to do it for us
true canyon
what does cheatbreaker have to do with papermc
I've asked several times for them to clarify their initial statements about paper and they have ignored my pings. Good luck!
magic ice
1.7 is already dead 😉
twin lagoon
Its like going to Microsoft and asking them if they could update Word for my 197...
i mean windows xp is probably being supported by microsoft anyways
golden gust
It is
twin lagoon
so to some degree that's not even a bad question
worthy geode
i mean windows xp is probably being supported by microsoft anyways
XP is 1.8, 1.7 is 98 or something
golden gust
I mean, not at the price that many of us here could afford, but, it is
mighty storm
tthe fuck is up with all the sugar mommies on dating apps good lord
i believe xp is being supported but only for government
potent fossil
that was an abrupt change of pace and i have whiplash now. my people will be in contact
mighty storm
not for the genreral consumer
worthy geode
At least people on dating apps usually don't want updates for ancient versions 
golden gust
They have enterprise support plans for XP still
mighty storm
yeah meant that
golden gust
Think they expire in like 2025 or something though
twin lagoon
not for the genreral consumer
well yes just like papermc 1.7 isn't being supported by the general consumer
mighty storm
or anyone
wraith oracle
Microsoft is going to keep supporting it so long it generates money, anyways
potent fossil
Had an airgapped server at my last job running windows server 2003
true canyon
XP is 1.8, 1.7 is 98 or something
For all the issues 1.7.x added with structure saving and UUID troubles (all the patches!) I'd argue it's ME.
twin lagoon
right well
tl;dr no one wants to voluntarily maintain 1.7.10 and even if it's paid, no one wants to look into the shit old mess from 7 years ago
mighty storm
tf is the difference between 1.7 and 1.8 even
potent fossil
Lmao
worthy geode
Never heard of you, very important
ripe sphinx
so uh @void void I see a very obvious course forwards, just update to supported versions, and then you'll get support
potent fossil
It was declined because you need to read the rules
twin lagoon
the important entities in the modded client scene are lunar client, pvplounge, badlion client and maybe something else
ripe sphinx
like why the everliving fork are you still on 1.7
wraith oracle
I don't think a 1.7 codebase could even implement most of the performance patches from the current codebase without large amount of rework considering how different the systems in place are from back then
twin lagoon
cheatbreaker is known to be dead for the past 3 years
mighty storm
anyone whose playerbase relies on ancient, outdated, and unsupported software has no importance in my eyes
twin lagoon
suddenly you're here to revive it after everyone jumped ship and you think you're an important entity
true canyon
I've been doing Minecraft stuff since 2010 and I have never heard of you. Sorry 😦
potent fossil
overblown egos are sometimes really cute, but this one is irritating
true canyon
It was declined because you need to ***__read the rules__***
The rules preventing me from my 12k/mo glory! 😡
twin lagoon
well that's great
ancient bolt
who are you?
potent fossil
twin lagoon
just, don't call yourself an important entity
ancient bolt
also the classic "I offered to pay you so I'm not entitled" tactic
mighty storm
yeah i mean craftbukkit still operates, you dont use it. spigot's been maintaining it ever since bukkit widthdrew. doesnt mean ill ever use it
golden gust
I mean, the games changed in such a way that much of the current stuff wouldn't be all that applicable, or require larger changes, larger systems are missing and would need to be backported entirely, and, 10k, for the amount of work involved, is basically piss all
wraith oracle
I've literally never heard of Cheatbreaker until now and I was kinda hard on PvP back in the day it was everything MC was about lol
twin lagoon
think a lot of people have heard of cheatbreaker, just not about the revival
i highly doubt that
mighty storm
what the fuck is cheatbreaker, does it happen to break the kneecaps of cheaters in relationships? shit im down
twin lagoon
actually, unique connections in total, maybe
1.1 million unique connections in the last 6 months, no
mighty storm
over what period of time
twin lagoon
yeah we need a period of time here
potent fossil
I just looked up Cheatbreaker LLC and according to current records it's suspended by the franchise tax board lol
true canyon
https://giphy.com/gifs/work-games-tweets-b7MdMkkFCyCWI
I'm a people person! 😢
twin lagoon
you're also not cheatbreaker llc
golden gust
I mean, 1.7 is basically 100% irrelevent to us, so, being important in a circle we have nothing to do with is pretty 🤷♂️
mighty storm
tax evasion? didn t realize i was dealing with john mcafee here
twin lagoon
twin lagoon
oh so you're the actual cheatbreaker
god i fucking hate minecraft's pvp community
please kill me already
thanks
mighty storm
oh there's an offline cheatbreaker? The girl she told me not to worry about smh
ripe sphinx
I like how my comments about updating are being ignored lol
worthy geode
Looks like the Anti cheat client needs an anti-cheat to deal with the ripoffs
mighty storm
pvp community is bearable at least they fucking pay for the game, imagine playing offline mode
twin lagoon
mighty storm
entitlement spotted 👀
golden gust
Then, go hire in the relevant community?
mighty storm
I dont got the weewoo emoji, can someone plop it
worthy geode
Isn't the PvP community 1.8 anyways? are there more than 10 people using 1.7 for pvp?
mighty storm
they think pvp community has any impact whatsoever
twin lagoon
Isn't the PvP community 1.8 anyways? are there more than 10 people using 1.7 for...
1.7 as client is still a reasonably popular thing
true canyon
oh there's an offline cheatbreaker? The girl she told me not to worry about smh
You don't know her she goes to another school
mighty storm
lunar sucks
twin lagoon
well i never said it was good
ripe sphinx
I mean 1.7 for modded probably still has a bit of traction
twin lagoon
lmao
mighty storm
i prefer sun
twin lagoon
and they probably rebased off of it 4 years ago
ancient bolt
sun microsystems?
mighty storm
sun java
worthy geode
Yeah modded sure
wraith oracle
I mean 1.7 for modded probably still has a bit of traction
wasn't 1.10 where the modding community was
twin lagoon
ah right
ripe sphinx
(but then again shockingly enough most mods are updated to 1.12 or 1.16 by now so...)
mighty storm
wait cheatbreaker is a client? now im confused
potent fossil
There is some extreme ego inflation in this channel right now lmao
golden gust
.6 .8 .12 is where a good chunk of the modded stuff stuck
Not sure about .7 for modded, tbqh
true canyon
120 tick... voice servers. Now I've heard everything.
mighty storm
1.7.10 was the modded thing
ripe sphinx
1.7.10 was quite big iirc
potent fossil
Jeez mbax is a cutie 
mighty storm
ive played more 1.7.10 than 1.6 and 1.8 tbh
wraith oracle
1.7.10 was mainly big due to the modpacks released at the time
true canyon
1.6.4 was modding home for a long time due to stability.
mighty storm
modpack wise
ripe sphinx
and then .12...idk it's been a while since I did modded
golden gust
was, but most of the modded stuff fractured around those versions I noted
worthy geode
Voice servers with 100 tps more than the game they are for
mighty storm
1.12 was just another stopping point, very large gap in the time it took 1.13 to come around
golden gust
Well, .6 was more some of the bigger mods kinda died off iirc
twin lagoon
now ladies and gentlemen
let me remind you that jhalt left the internet / community 3 years ago after being exposed of being a pedohpile
limpid comet
POGGG
twin lagoon
but we're supposed to look at his net worth
limpid comet
it's the NET WORTH
potent fossil
mighty storm
I have been very successful for years
"The self, especially as distinct from the world and other selves."
.net worth? is that the new microsoft framework
true canyon
Voice servers with 100 tps more than the game they are for
I'm still baffled by the voice server tickrate comments. Utterly baffled.
potent fossil
LMAO
wraith oracle
I mean, you seem to endorse jhalt's "success" if anything, lmao
mighty storm
edp moment
ripe sphinx
korobi better be archiving this lol, this is fucking gold
true canyon
I'm still baffled by the voice server tickrate comments. Utterly baffled.
Which is super impressive because normally it costs 12k/mo to get my bafflement! Such a discount today.
formal turret
see? it's fun engaging with trolls
potent fossil
"We are so successful. As proof of our success, look at jhalt's net worth"
reminder than jhalt is a pedophile
"Ah yeah I don't support that, but I do support him. Remember. We are successful."
That's all I'm getting out of this
ripe sphinx
can someone remind me of the site to view IRC logs
potent fossil
twin lagoon
i have not actively been in this chat for the past 4 days and i come back to this absolute shitshow
i am very pleased
ripe sphinx
https://korobi.vq.lc
tq
wraith oracle
how do you guys manage to get these people around
golden gust
what can I say, Michael
potent fossil
They just show up
golden gust
You sure do got the timing
mighty storm
paper general
potent fossil
So happy for you!
waxen panther
potent fossil
Dude's still a pedophile and your defense of him in the name of business is problematic at best
formal turret
yea, too bad it's on 1.7 so no one will use it 😦
mighty storm
ive also not heard of either of those, very successful indeed
twin lagoon
You sure do got the timing
as per usual really
golden gust
Either way, .7 is old, bumping it up would be a stupid amount of hours and there are very few willing to actually pay into that, hence why most of that stuff is dead, there are the odd rando fork which aims to maintain 1.7 but they generally die due to the effort involved of maintaining it and the skills required generally more being focused in other communities rather than the dated stuff due to aspects like better opportunities and much better investment (where it actually exists)
worthy geode
Websites for cats > anti-cheat clients
mighty storm
Wouldn't it be a lot easier to make a custom client that changes the combat back to the old system? So you could stay up to date, but all you change is the combat system?
like, actual big brain here
let's use our minds thnaks
ripe sphinx
oldcombatmechanics
mighty storm
inb4 "not exactly what i want"
worthy geode
Not to mention that 1.7 will loose players with every day that passes, thats just inevitable
waxen panther
is this guy still trolling in here
twin lagoon
golden gust
maintaining a fork, especially one you wanna keep maintained and in production, is not trivial effort either, and more like a full time job in the effort involved to consistently keep on stuff, especially if you're maintaining it for the number of people relevant enough to actually pull in enough income to actually justify the effort
ripe sphinx
What's the reason you guys are still locked on 1.7 in the first place anyways
true canyon
Not to mention that 1.7 will loose players with every day that passes, thats jus...
Nonsense there's literally dozens of them!
mighty storm
all 16 users seething
wraith oracle
I mean, recreating the hit-registration of 1.7 in 1.17 is probably easier than trying to maintain/update a 8 years old codebase if you really want to look at the big picture
true canyon
What's the reason you guys are still locked on 1.7 in the first place anyways
Apparently they thought Paper was supporting them until about 30 minutes ago so probably that's why.
potent fossil
I'm still laughing about the smug "We're Cheatbreaker LLC. Lol." and then "oh yea our LLC is suspended transferred to an ICC agreement pending unsuspension"
golden gust
Downfall is that very few that use these versions are often unwilling or unable to chip into those projects to the degree that the effort required to maintain them justifies the time put into maintaining them, hence why all the rando forks generally die or don't have the people around them to get far enough for people to be happy
worthy geode
The one bigger server on 1.7 (except for Hypixel, but they won't use that tool anyways) will be very unhappy
ripe sphinx
god I'm gonna have to dump the korobi log of all this when it's done, this is pure fucking gold. Thank you for making my otherwise very boring day hilarious
I thought le pickle was 1.8?
twin lagoon
nah
golden gust
they forked from 1.6 iirc
twin lagoon
they run a modified version of 1.7.10
heavily modified
great
don't care about who you are
golden gust
You're different from hypixel, though
golden gust
They've got the resources to toss into maintaining those versions
ripe sphinx
so does hypixel I bet
mighty storm
damn what i said was a joke but you legit were serious
golden gust
They literally have a full team of devs maintaining that stuff, and, full team of devs is not cheap
mighty storm
yeah gotta be at least $3/month
golden gust
You are though
limber knotBOT
oh is this more clientside anticheat bs?
golden gust
You're not willing to hire a team of devs to put in the effort to maintain that version
ripe sphinx
hi zml, yup
mighty storm
hypixel sucked 3 years ago and still do now, what point ru making
twin lagoon
think you might wanna look at your calendar
limber knotBOT
lel
twin lagoon
and your current statistics
ripe sphinx
read the full readback from this guy for the best experience
twin lagoon
and maybe the statistics of lunar or something
potent fossil
it's 2021 now
ripe sphinx
👍
mighty storm
the fuck is a clientside anticheat even for???? just modify the client ???? easy ???? the fuck is the point
waxen panther
@twin lagoon 
twin lagoon
limber knotBOT
around the clock? in most workplaces, an 8-hour workday is standard
worthy geode
The grand total of players on all 1.7 servers that are tracked by minecraft-statistics (which are def shady but they crawl quite a lot of servers) is 2000 on 200 servers btw.
Im sure thats an audience worth 10k or more
ripe sphinx
so pay them to update your fork with paper patches then?
twin lagoon
but you said you're willing to pay for paper's hourly costs?
mighty storm
spending even $1 on 1.7 is overspending
potent fossil
So I repeat again from earlier, what's the issue then. You've got a "team of devs". Keep up the work you're doing. Switching to Spigot won't help, it's the same thing as Paper. They don't maintain it anymore either. So still what's the issue? Have your devs do it.
formal turret
vision why are you continuing to engage when they don't seem to want to help you out
limber knotBOT
probably just trying to get the ego points
mighty storm
ego that dude from ratatouulie
potent fossil
Lmao
twin lagoon
right so what you're saying is
limber knotBOT
but idk @void void go do your malware somewhere else please
twin lagoon
we want to leech off of voluntary work and not pay $100k
mighty storm
well our hourly rate starts at $100k/hr so better get the loans out
twin lagoon
since papermc could do it much faster for free
limber knotBOT
they're also acting like anyone here remembers 1.7.10 much
wraith oracle
even the PaperMC team would have their issues working with 1.7 or so I believe
twin lagoon
define respectable rate
true canyon
100k is a good starting offer to Paper, IMO.
twin lagoon
because you're not wanting to pay your devs $100k
mighty storm
oh respectable, i was being cheap just cus i was nice
twin lagoon
but you do want an ancient version to be maintained by someone reputable
true canyon
they're also acting like anyone here remembers 1.7.10 much
Hey that's my last update, I remember it well!
wraith oracle
not all of the team members are the original ones that worked on it back on 1.7 and the ones who did, did so 8 years ago so they wouldn't remember a single thing about how 1.7 works internally
twin lagoon
okay so
ripe sphinx
this feels relevant https://i.imgur.com/aEirQuD.png
limber knotBOT
35 an hour full-time is not a 35 an hour term contract
twin lagoon
you want to pay a paper developer $35/h
but you don't want to expand your dev team to do the same
potent fossil
The logic here is so ridiculously shitty
twin lagoon
keep in mind literally no one part of the original paper team that maintained 1.7.10 has not worked on it for the past 7 years
they would be effectively starting from 0% efficiency
no one is familiar with the code
how can this be more simple
potent fossil
And they still haven't read the rules, which would make it quite clear to them that nobody is going to be hired here from this chat
limber knotBOT
are you still in 2014?
twin lagoon
no
ripe sphinx
ah yes, I too remember code I wrote 7y ago
twin lagoon
mighty storm
z750 😔
twin lagoon
the last commit for 1.8 was 5 years ago
limber knotBOT
have you looked at the calendar?
true canyon
Our custom fork utilized certain aspects of Paper so we'll have to block it out and become a Spigot fork instead.
Still no answer as to what the heck this comment meant 🤔
twin lagoon
do the math for 1.7.10
worthy geode
Just pay them 10k to develop a time machine
golden gust
You're talking about a code base which has changed massively over the past dozens of years
mighty storm
sadly bringing z back will cost you far more than $100k/hr
golden gust
much of the stuff we know now about the code-base is not even relevant to 1.7
limber knotBOT
gotta work on your necromancy skills for that chew
mighty storm
we;re called paer now mike smh
ripe sphinx
just to get modern patches working on <1.17 will require days of rebasing patches lol
limber knotBOT
it predates the patch system and paperclip
twin lagoon
but you don't want to pay your own developers $100k total
mighty storm
yes you havent offered a "good" payment yet
twin lagoon
to expand your own dev team
ripe sphinx
it predates the patch system and paperclip
dafuq how'd you do it then-right that was before bukkitpocolypse wasn't it
mighty storm
1.7.10 had paperclip i think? at the very end
potent fossil
🤢
limber knotBOT
trying to hire people who generally already have full-time jobs
twin lagoon
golden gust
No, 1.7 never had paperclip
mighty storm
oh idr then, i know some system came in at the tail end of 1.7 right?
vestal jasper
the fuck did I come home to
limber knotBOT
like, you could maybe get someone if you go to like $200 or $250 an hour, but 35 is way too low
ripe sphinx
1.7 go brr
mighty storm
nothing of interest, purely comedic value
golden gust
system was designed especially for 1.8+ and coincided with the entire changing of the build setup
ripe sphinx
read the last ~200 or so messages for the full experience
golden gust
Wrapping a 1.7 jar in paperclip would be trivial, but 🤷♂️
twin lagoon
the fuck did I come home to
someone with an ego bigger than the eiffel tower wants paper to maintain 1.7.10 is the general gist of it
worthy geode
That definitely was not money well spent then
tropic flame
fun fact, Paper-1.7 won't even compile as it is unless you change some maven repositories it looks for
twin lagoon
so you're saying that your developers can't code for shit considering the quality-of-code
vestal jasper
ah ok so basically the answer was "no fuck off" from the get go
shell vine
Ur mistake is thinking ur entitled to just hire who u want when u want
twin lagoon
your mistake is 1.7.10
mighty storm
p sure the only people who worked on 1.7 arent here anymore, theyve left ages ago
void void
@twin lagoon how old is 1.7.10 again? :^)
tropic flame
yeah wasn't z the last one
mighty storm
ego?
vestal jasper
chew's most likely right
twin lagoon
correct, i don't develop
worthy geode
So advanced they can't even maintain 1.7?
ripe sphinx
vestal jasper
"more than what you're capable of"
weird flex but ok
golden gust
I mean, it's a java codebase, of which practically few here are familiar with given the years
tropic flame
so advanced they can't get a 1.16 or 1.17 server and install ViaRewind into it?
mighty storm
im sure they are more advanced, i bet they use netbeans
twin lagoon
sure provide the download
ripe sphinx
so advanced they can't get a 1.16 or 1.17 server and install ViaRewind into it?
don't forget oldcombatmechanics
golden gust
I'd also sooner get paid for the stuff I do now rather than being lumped on more work
twin lagoon
deal
tropic flame
don't forget oldcombatmechanics
ah yes because mUh PvP?!! is the majority of the community of 1.7
worthy geode
"community", 2k players
golden gust
the amount of headache and work that codebase is likely not worth it, especially when we compare to the modern tooling of like, actually having proper mappings
tropic flame
and I'm not even being sarcastic
teal cedar
Anyone want to wire me some cash?
tropic flame
1.7 and 1.8 players are 90% toxic
ripe sphinx
or actually having proper tooling i.e. gradle
twin lagoon
<@!215448923681062913> how old is 1.7.10 again? :^)
worthy geode
What a patch, im sure you need to be an incredibly advanced developer for that
mighty storm
you should spend that money instead of on developers, on some sort of shock therapy to get people to realize pvp isnt a lifestyle and they should do better things in life
twin lagoon
vernal vigil
Please help. I'm using paper/bukkit with multiverse core, i imported two worlds, but now I cant tp to the original since its not in the list and it always "failed to import" when i try
mighty storm
"forced our devs" glad to see theyre being treated well!
vestal jasper
anti dox software what
tropic flame
then uh... why support them? I'd guess 1.8 still has a minimally considerable amount of people but 1.7 is just... very old
teal cedar
Anti dox software
limber knotBOT
anti-ddos? you mean OVH?
vestal jasper
lmao
void void
"please click here to private your facebook account"
mighty storm
ovh's anti-ddos is just engulfing the datacenter in flames to protect the data
vestal jasper
imagine it's just clippy in the fucking corner of everyone's machines saying "are you really sure you want to post your SSN in discord?"
ripe sphinx
sorry cloudflare, cheatbreaker is coming through!
golden gust
"please click here to delet urself"
void void
fuckin sciatis
worthy geode
MCMarket has books? wtf
twin lagoon
used to
void void
from a really big meme
tropic flame
1.8 is literally 1.7 with quality of life improvements like better server list organization features + a few new blocks
anyone complaining the pvp is different are just overly attached to a mechanic that was underdeveloped to begin with (1.8 vs 1.7-wise)
and which got majorly improved in 1.9
blind kids, may i say
golden gust
I hate the client movement change in 1.8
I mean, 1.9
You literally go from parkour pro to 'fat fuck sailing in the air"
*as magestically as a fat fuck can sail in the air
😄
mighty storm
the fuck people paying thousands for that doesnt violate the eula
void void
what if we were always at the level of "fat fuck sailing in the air"?
worthy geode
I doubt anyone will be sad about that (except for the 10 1.7 players of course)
void void
"Negotiation redacted"
limber knotBOT
there was a negotiation?
ripe sphinx
ah yes, the griefdefender-flags method
formal turret
thank you for your service vision
it's unfortunate it had to come to this
perhaps in the future we can have a better relationship
void void
did you obfuscate/censor your original post? cause redact isn't retract
they're totally separate
tropic flame
uh the paper code is literally open source
mighty storm
Negotiation: ||redacted due to legal takedown||
limber knotBOT
perhaps in the future anyone who makes clientside anticheats can drop off the face of the earth :p
void void
Negotiation: ||redacted due to legal takedown||
Negotiation: ||[REDACTED]||
tropic flame
idk if back then the patches were MIT or still GPLv3 but in any case you can literally still include them in your private fork @void void
you're just removing them out of spite
worthy geode
Especially if they even introduce cheats like Badlion did in 1.16
tropic flame
and we don't give a shit about that
vestal jasper
oh no one less person running paper 1.7
ripe sphinx
that's the point logics
vestal jasper
anyway
limber knotBOT
k @void void
tropic flame
then get out of here lol
void void
pog
ripe sphinx
and gone
void void
POG
waxen panther
tropic flame
there, that's how you do it
mighty storm
we're here to celebrate this fat fucking W
limber knotBOT
they left just before everyone got bored
void void
well that was a fun read :^)
golden gust
in response to paper not maintaining 1.7, we're going to kill all our code based on your project in favour of a project which also doesn't support 1.7 and even makes it harder to support 1.7
slow claps
twin lagoon
void void
i can feel the seething ego from here
limber knotBOT
i mean, they can walk face first into the ground all day if they want, it's their face
twin lagoon
that's all children have a nice day
vestal jasper
i'm sorry what lmao
vestal jasper
how does some random person's server become unrecoverable financially
it's a god damn MINECRAFT server
tropic flame
cuz you know, they gotta get that kid parent's money out of their credit cards
void void
^
void void
hey welcome back!
limber knotBOT
like, the basics of running a server are pretty cheap lol, you could run it off of spare change
vestal jasper
thought you left
void void
what happened to not responding anymore?
void void
^
tropic flame
smells like someone has an alt to peek in and felt compelled to come back
limber knotBOT
hm, i tried to re-release my fucks but turns out there weren't any left to give
formal turret
ah, not enough crate sales
worthy geode
I hope you recovered financially zml
formal turret
understandable, i'd close too
limber knotBOT
i'm not sure if i will malfrador, it's gonna be tough
void void
his messages are going away :^)
vestal jasper
they left one
tropic flame
ngl tho you could stay for the #politics , i believe you'd be better than the ancap dude that has been running it for like a week @void void
worthy geode
IRC archieves that anyways
limber knotBOT
not on irc they aren't
mighty storm
oh they're back
twin lagoon
oh that's paper-help
limber knotBOT
i don't see any messages disappearing here lol
vestal jasper
yeah they came back like 30 seconds later
twin lagoon
all of his messages are being logged
limber knotBOT
yup
ripe sphinx
https://paste.gg/p/Underscore11/cb66a1a5351943e3b805c4616ced05a2 all collected here for your convenience 😛
(all 600 lines gg)
tropic flame
why doesn't he try to hire md_5? and then md_5 refuses and he nukes all the spigot patches too, thus regressing to be a craftbukkit fork
shell vine
I hired md5 once 
limber knotBOT
once
waxen panther
unlucky
wraith oracle
did md give you the source code for whatever they coded
shell vine
It was for a bungee plugin
twin lagoon
wraith oracle
I'd have a good laugh if it uses the same code style they use for bungee-chat
it's literally cursed
ashen cliff
Looks like I missed out on a very epic convo. 
twin lagoon
Yes bro.
vestal jasper
what specifically did they even want done lol
golden gust
meanwhile works for andrewkm to keep the lights on
vestal jasper
or did they fail to even bring it up, other than listing a random mc version
cat pls
tropic flame
Looks like I missed out on a very epic convo. <:kekwhyper:674093681904713729>
DM them and show them the special KGBPaper fork that natively supports 1.7 - 1.17 (totally not stealing ViaVersion code!!! pinky promise)
ashen cliff
Bro.
void void
totally not stealing ViaVersion code!!! pinky promise
cross your heart and hope to die? :^)
ashen cliff
We implement PS. /s
limber knotBOT
they were really unclear on what exactly they wanted done, just that they wanted some concept of the paper team to do it for them
twin lagoon
Bro. <:kekwhyper:674093681904713729>
They wanted KGBSpigot 1.7.10 support bro.
hexed violet
Anybody know of a command that will constantly change the color of the stained glass?
Not like command blocks changing it, but when its still in your inventory.
wraith oracle
what I understood was that it just clicked for them that PaperMC stopped supporting 1.7 like 7 years ago and came here to complain about it
vestal jasper
if they can't even convey what they want done how do they expect people to do it smh my head
void void
because you're a developer and should just remember 7 year old code and understand them on an emotional and psychological level
hexed violet
Anybody know of a command that will constantly change the color of the stained g...
Could be a /give command but idk
ashen cliff
They wanted KGBSpigot 1.7.10 support bro.
Not good bro. Not good.
twin lagoon
He's been taken care of bro.
wraith oracle
afterwards it was just pure trolling or genuine narcissistic behavior for whatever reason
twin lagoon
KGB took him and his family.
ashen cliff
How much did you charge him?
twin lagoon
500k RUB
ashen cliff
At least now I know why they went bankrupt.
vestal jasper
1.7 was before I even knew java
tropic flame
I sometimes still report Windows 7 bugs to Microsoft but it's just to make them waste money reviewing everything because I fake it as Windows 10 and then write that it's actually Windows 7 at the very end of the text. I'm such an awesome person! Sapping off the resources of a huge capitalist company (capitalism = bad!). Everyone should aspire to be like me.
twin lagoon
carbonchat 1.7 wen
fallen oracle
limber knotBOT
i meannn, adventure-platform-bukkit should run on 1.7.10
vestal jasper
@twin lagoon :^)
twin lagoon
vestal jasper
oof
potent fossil
Did they get banned or did they self delete
twin lagoon
that's pretty much a wildcard
vestal jasper
self deleted
potent fossil
F
tropic flame
Did they get banned or did they self delete
more like they got self owned
void void
i can feel the ego
mighty storm
just in case we change our minds maybe
potent fossil
Negotiation redacted.
mighty storm
yeah cant find it anymore
ripe sphinx
i meannn, adventure-platform-bukkit should run on 1.7.10
CC has j16 hard dep though iirc, and I bet most 1.7 servers can't run that for $reasons
twin lagoon
in theory it should run on 16
ripe sphinx
ah well korobi remembers all
twin lagoon
java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "java.util.concurrent.ExecutorService.shutdown()" because "net.minecraft.server.v1_7_R4.MinecraftServer.asyncPacketExecutor" is null
well maybe not
vestal jasper
oof
twin lagoon
could also be this being the only 1.7.10 build i have on my pc
ashen cliff
It does bro. You just need the KGB patch.
twin lagoon
Bro. This is pretty much the closest thing to KGBSpigot
tropic flame
lol just Alt+F4
twin lagoon
i shit you not the fact that it has an asyncPacketExecutor should tell you enough about it
it literally is KGBSpigot at this point
royal kernel
Bro on KgbSpigot some plugins/players go missing
ashen cliff
Yeah, but you don't have the J16 patch.
tropic flame
mighty storm
perfect
mighty storm
YOO
royal kernel
How do you get 40 TPS?
void void
KGBSpigot
twin lagoon
KGBSpigot bro.
vestal jasper
ok but can KGBSpigot do 60TPS
mighty storm
not as good as the 3300 tps aikar got one time
limpid comet
my kgb spigot went up to 50 tps
twin lagoon
BRO!
limpid comet
its the best paper spigot core
ashen cliff
Good bro.
tropic flame
all that KGBPaper needs now is the skins restorer patch
ashen cliff
Bro! We added server sided skins to 1.7. Fully working, no client patches needed.
waxen panther
Auth me included
unkempt drift
is KGBSpigot made by that one guy that has like 15 forks on mc market?
tropic flame
Bro! We added server sided skins to 1.7. Fully working, no client patches needed...
pog! does it also add server sided optifine? i hate to install mods myself
limpid comet
can kgbspigot run forge mods
limber knotBOT
can kgbspigot cook me dinner?
limpid comet
ill cook you dinner 
limber knotBOT
😳
tropic flame
what about Quilt mods
royal kernel
can KGB paper make my players disapear?
limber knotBOT
what about forge and quilt mods all at once
void void
is quilt still a thing™️
limber knotBOT
ya
void void
neat
limpid comet
that's kgbmagma
tropic flame
btw add skyrim mods support while we're at it
void void
both games have dragons, so it must be super similar
ashen cliff
pog! does it also add server sided optifine? i hate to install mods myself
Do you maybe remember the 1.8 probe for user files? We magically probe memory to install Optifine server side.
limpid comet
yea bro DLL Injector 2021 Free Download for Optifine 1.7
tropic flame
oh yes, from oftipine.bet!
twin lagoon
void void
limpid comet
royal kernel
1.17 is so 🙂 bigger = better
magic river
Holy shit that just kept going
I switched to this window and there was a funny conversation happening, figured I'd read it for the couple minutes it would take until the inevitable ban and then scroll to the bottom but nope
golden gust
I kinda miss some of the older mods
vestal jasper
400 million gold but you have under a stack of lapis
ashen cliff
Bruh moment.
unkempt drift
so you see that big 5.4 billion?
unkempt drift
I think thats a 5B under the cursor
unkempt drift
B, 8, pretty close tho so ya especially with the mc font
ashen cliff
It do be like that sometimes: https://posili.me/i/2021-07-06_02-53-25.png
unkempt drift
you playing a pack or just your own thing?
I need to play some modded again, I def still enjoy it. WAY better than vanilla
royal kernel
What kind of mods do you play?
ashen cliff
An old pack that I turned into my own thing, by adding like another 150 mods to it.
formal turret
lol
ashen cliff
At 307 mods currently.
formal turret
the last modpack i played was enigmatica 6
unkempt drift
I usually just look for the most popular expert pack
I quite enjoy lots of recipe changes making it so I gotta play with all the mods
ashen cliff
I'm just automating everything.
formal turret
I tell myself i'll play with every mod in the pack but every single time i just play with mekanism and then quit
unkempt drift
the project ozones Kappa modes are pretty good
royal kernel
I like vanilla personally lol
ashen cliff
AFAIK I created the world back in 2015 or something like that.
ashen cliff
Based on Tech World 2. But from the looks of it, I added way more mods.
Yeah.
Tho, all the mods are latest. Some even updated to this day for what ever reason.
formal turret
is it a 1.7 pack or 1.12?
ashen cliff
1.6.4.
wooden loom
hi
unkempt drift
I've wanted to go back to 1.6 or 1.7 maybe play the agrarian skies packs again
formal turret
damn, didn't know there was anyone still updating their 1.6 mods
ashen cliff
Agrarian skies was epic, but it changes too much.
shell vine
I think it was all the mods 3, u could make item singularities
ashen cliff
1.7.10 is still supported.