general

[brave radish]

Fahrenheit is dumb

[warm anchor]

[twin lagoon]

[cosmic raft]

gotta love the conversion too

.wa (37 * (9 ÷ 5)) + 32

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Exact result: 493/5 - Decimal form: 98.6 - https://is.gd/GwMFab

[wispy blade]

fahrenheit conversion mentions 9 to 5

meaning countries that use fahrenheit are wage slave countries

:c

[brave radish]

The US isn't a country

[wispy blade]

agreed, it's a social experiment that never ends

[brave radish]

it's a giant blob of loosely connected governments that can only agree two things: 1. America is a mess 2. A flashlight is called a flashlight, not a torch

[limber knot]

you mean a torch?

[brave radish]

dum bot can't see his message is past relevance cuz edits

[warm anchor]

Idk man the last time someone piss Us off, they ate two nuke.

American comes together when it’s like that

[brave radish]

you don't have to be a country to fire nuclear missiles

[brave radish]

actually, we're still debating whether or not we should have bombed the Japanese

[warm anchor]

The patriotism acts weirdly here

[plain thunder]

When is 1.17 stable enough lol my friends keep trying to get me to switch the server to 1.17 ._.

[wispy blade]

not

wait for 1.17.1

[brave radish]

get ViaVersion for them to connect easily if you haven't

[warm anchor]

One second thought, you don’t have to be their friends you know….

[brave radish]

and if they keep complaining just tell them 1.17 is lame anyway

[plain thunder]

Theyre my only tho

[brave radish]

ah yes tell people not to be friends with people who want a game update

[plain thunder]

Nah they want the new blocks as well

[wispy blade]

btw, we're not saying you can't use it, it's just a bad idea

[brave radish]

well better than not having Via

[wispy blade]

if you do: PLEASE backup your world

[warm anchor]

Gotta be tough man!

[limber knot]

if it's a server just for friends then just use vanilla 👀

[plain thunder]

Im wiping the world map anyways

[warm anchor]

Vanilla still have that tree issue

[limber knot]

(and go complain the mojang about issues xD)

[warm anchor]

You can crash server by planting trees

Literally

[limber knot]

*to mojang

[warm anchor]

Lol

[limber knot]

well their friends want the full 1.17 experience...

[warm anchor]

[plain thunder]

Vanilla is bad, yknow why? I use plugins like economy, much easier than trading diamonds for cows

[wispy blade]

minecraft and having bugs is like me and being braindead <3

[brave radish]

Idk about y'all but I like my friends; I wouldn't abandon them just because they asked for 1.17...

[warm anchor]

One trick is use quartz. It’s not as rare as diamond but not farmable 😉

You also can’t trade quartz (not block)

[plain thunder]

And vanilla 1.17 basically crashes my pc to have both a server and my own client running lol

[wispy blade]

hmmmm

[plain thunder]

Well then theyll complain its too easy to get quartz and the economy just dies lol

[wispy blade]

sounds like a config issue to me

[limber knot]

sounds like you have a shit PC tbh

[warm anchor]

Ugh vanilla client is really bad

[plain thunder]

It aint the best, but far from the worst as well

[warm anchor]

My 3950x will crazy when I open two instances (client)at once

[limber knot]

well you'll want a gaming PC for games ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[plain thunder]

Ryzen 5 1400 quad core is where the main issue is

Cpu

[warm anchor]

That’s a big oof

[limber knot]

get a 3600, they are pretty cheap and powerful

[plain thunder]

Biggest oof is everythings overpriced nowadays

As well as idk how to put the cpu in my pc eother lmfao

[limber knot]

can run 2xMC+server+intellij Idea + Chrome without issues 👀

[plain thunder]

What about the 3600X its for some reason cheaper

[limber knot]

it's really easy if you watch a good tutorial and don't make errors like dropping it 👀

uh, it's a bit better. dunno why it would be cheaper lol

[wispy blade]

me, who get a really good deal on a 2700

[plain thunder]

Is it really? Well i hope my parents will finally trust me to change my own pc lol

[limber knot]

but you'll also want to make sure your mainboard is actually compatible

[plain thunder]

The ASUS PRIME B350-PLUS def is compatible

[limber knot]

and don't forget the thermal paste 👀

[plain thunder]

It even supports the newest one with a bios update

[limber knot]

yeah, that looks liek a solid mainboard

[plain thunder]

Which is kinda wierd for a €120 motherboard

But ok

[limber knot]

dunno why you would get that with a 1400 👀

[plain thunder]

Well i barely have money lol

The 1400 was good according to the guy that built the pc

[limber knot]

well it's not bad

[plain thunder]

2-3 years ago

[limber knot]

but it's odd to waste that much money on a mainboard and then get a cheap CPU

[plain thunder]

I mean 32gb ram, a 1400 amd cpu, 1050ti nvidia and like 2TB SSD storage mmlol

[limber knot]

or well, "waste". I guess it's good

[wispy blade]

probs has builtin wifi or bluetooth

[plain thunder]

120€ on a motherboard isnt much tho?

[limber knot]

but you coul've bought one half the price

[wispy blade]

it's on the higher end

[plain thunder]

Nope

[plain thunder]

Not for upgrading though

I think that saves me more rn if i were to upgrade

So now i wonder if i would be able to get the 3600/3600X, wouldnt it extremely bottleneck my 1050ti gpu?

[limber knot]

I mean, AM4 is still the goto right now. sure some low tier ones aren't supported by the latest AMD CPUs but at least at the time AMD claimed they would be

[plain thunder]

Hmm...

[wispy blade]

same gpu as you and i'm running on a 2700

[limber knot]

it really depends on the tasks, minecraft isn't that extremely GPU hungry

[wispy blade]

though i mostly play cpu intensive games anyway

csgo/risk of rain/minecraft

[plain thunder]

Well as far as ive played games, my cpu was crying for help but my gpu was hitting 70% as well

[limber knot]

like I "only" get 170fps with an RTX3070 without shaders or anything 👀

[grand creek]

Hey, When will the full 1.17 build come out ?

[twin lagoon]

when it's ready

[limber knot]

they are out

they are just not recommended to use

[plain thunder]

I get 60fps on sildurs vibrant extreme shaders on my pc, until rain starts in the world

[grand creek]

can't find the funny

[plain thunder]

Then it just drops to 5fps

[grand creek]

ok

[limber knot]

lol

well if you can use shaders then your GPU should be fine for now

upgrading that would be suicide lol

[plain thunder]

My cpu hits 100% on booting my pc as well as playing basically every game i like

[limber knot]

well... there are ways 👀

[plain thunder]

I do wonder shouldn't i buy faster ram if im on 4 8gb 2333mhz ram sticks on a ryzen 3600

[plain thunder]

Tell me lol

[limber knot]

buying a pre-build PC and selling it for parts

although they increased a bit in price since I did that lol

[plain thunder]

Ah yeah well rip that plan

Oof lol

[grand creek]

If you have a potato pc, update drivers, low the settings and if it's a laptop and it gets slower, then put a SSD in that

[limber knot]

wow, over 300€ more now than what I paid

I guess more people used that plan lol

[plain thunder]

I recently saw a pre built pc in a local store with a nvidia 970 sell for 2k

[limber knot]

I would hope that everyone uses an SSD nowadays lol

[plain thunder]

I was like bruhhhh

[limber knot]

oof

[grand creek]

Genious

[plain thunder]

I recently earned 50€ by replacing someones 2017 laptop's ssd lol

[grand creek]

I'm going to sell them on wish

[warm anchor]

People sell real stuff on wish???

You will be first

[grand creek]

A gtx 1050 ti for 1000$ on wish seems the better thing to do

[plain thunder]

Omg rly

[plain thunder]

I still dont get why 1050tis are less expensive than gtx 970s

Friggin bitcoin miners

[grand creek]

you know... if it's at least touchable, then it is real

[limber knot]

because 50 is lower than 70

[warm anchor]

970chaschigher clock and ram

[plain thunder]

970 is really better than a 1050?? Yo what

[limber knot]

it is

[plain thunder]

What the hell

[grand creek]

Maybe because 970 is better then 1050

trust me

[limber knot]

as 970 is ~ a 1060

[warm anchor]

My Titan still outperforming in many older games compare to 2050

In my old old pc

[plain thunder]

Never thought a 900 series gpu was better than a 1000 series gpu

[grand creek]

i still don't know the meaning of rtx 3000

[limber knot]

think of it this way: 9|70 (9th generation, power 70), 10|50 (10th generation, power 50)

[grand creek]

like they're useless and they maked the 20th gen cost thousands of dollars

[plain thunder]

Guess thats why someone i know has a 970 in his laptop and more fps than me

[wispy blade]

rtx3000 is better, cheaper rtx2000 basically

[plain thunder]

Ohhh...

[limber knot]

of course newer generations will be more efficient but you can't just compete with more powerfull chips

[warm anchor]

Yeah.

[grand creek]

Imagine when 40th gen comes out

[limber knot]

also the 16xx, 20xx and 30xx namings are a scam

[plain thunder]

Imagine when the chip shortage is over

How the prices would behave

[wispy blade]

16xx is just 10xx except rebranded

[plain thunder]

Oh ok lol

[limber knot]

it's 10xx with updated firmware to support "rtx"

[warm anchor]

It’s just easier for them to make chip that way

[grand creek]

i still wish a 1080 ti... someday

[limber knot]

nvidia is goin gto bring out stuff like 13xx next, mark my words

[plain thunder]

So like i always planned to go to a 1080ti but guess not anymore

[grand creek]

i've got a 1070 ti and i'm really proud of it but i think that 1080 ti is the best graphic card

[wispy blade]

well, it's not

[grand creek]

idc, change my mind

[limber knot]

glances at a 3090

[wispy blade]

in 2016, definitely

idk man the benchmarks don't lie that the 1080ti is getting behind

[grand creek]

The 3090 is useless, change my mind

[plain thunder]

The 3090 is overpriced xd

[wispy blade]

your stubbornness is useless, change my mind

[grand creek]

[wispy blade]

everything nvidia is overpriced tbh

[plain thunder]

RGB ram is as well

[grand creek]

stubbornness, i think you got me wrong

[plain thunder]

Like how the hell is ram going to just make ur pc faster

[grand creek]

TridentZ is the best ram

[plain thunder]

Light does affect heat, sure but how effeciency???

[ancient bolt]

Happy birthday to Minecraft 1.7.10 https://howoldisminecraft1710.today/

[limber knot]

just buy an rgb heat sink and put that on normal ram

[grand creek]

fuf vengeance

[wispy blade]

june 26 2014 :')

[limber knot]

it was actually yesterday, DenWav

[wispy blade]

i bought minecraft pocket edition around that time

[limber knot]

runs

[plain thunder]

So my 1400 ryzen is overclocked to itsmax of 3.8ghz lkl

[ancient bolt]

I assume it goes off of the local time

[plain thunder]

Its still bad

[limber knot]

well versions are released on Mojang-Time which is UTC+1 so...

[ancient bolt]

It's not my fault the website doesn't use UTC

[plucky sparrow]

i wanna overclock my ram to 3600mhz but its scary

[limber knot]

Happy one day late birthday to the last version I did updates for 🎉

👀

[wispy blade]

can't believe i played MCPE for 2 years and then minecraft went from 1.7.10 to 1.10

actually insane

[warm anchor]

It’s ok naomi we know you are built different

[wispy blade]

yeah bro i'm fucking ripped

.

[ancient bolt]

@true canyon you know you could do updates for a new version again if you wanted to...

[true canyon]

I think I'd need to start seeing a therapist first

[wispy blade]

lmao

[true canyon]

But really.

[wispy blade]

ok that's enough papermc for me tonight

[ancient bolt]

nah do that later, like the rest of us

[true canyon]

I'd start ignoring non-update things in favor of continuing work

[warm anchor]

Good night

[wispy blade]

gn etern

don't post weeb shit while i'm gone or else i'll have to spend way too much time finding it

[granite gull]

Dude spigot 1.17 lags a shit ton, is paper any better rn?

[grand pewter]

always has

[wispy blade]

yeah but pretty unstable and buggy

[granite gull]

I was assuming it had to do with summer vacations but it could just be spigot

[harsh frost]

is there a channel where i can ask general questions about minecraft

commands, plugins, etc

[warm anchor]

Yeah here or google

Or #general in Official Minecraft Discord

[harsh light]

lol imagine not being banned there

A new staff joined the team and banned me once they saw my semi-ad

before they announced that it is for finding freinds

Its stupid

[warm anchor]

Do they still have lfg locked?

It was full of questionable request and 99% bot spam advertising

[pale river]

From what I've heard, yes. I'm also banned there

[warm anchor]

Lol

What y’all be doing

[void void]

Why most bedrock torture me like this

anyone know how i can save a book i made in the kit

it keeps disappearing

When will paper become stable for 1.17?

I'm hoping soon

[solid siren]

I have this problem that enderman wont aggro endermite

After updating to paper

[void void]

Is it possible to get an answer from paper staff?On how long it will take to update?To a stable build.

[potent fossil]

No, there is no ETA.

.eta

[limber knot]

(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785

[potent fossil]

Either use with proper precautions or continue being patient. The answer will not change if you ask again (or again, or again, or even again after that)

[warm anchor]

Is endermite from natural spawn

Not from worldedit schematic

Or creative

Coz any other way it will not work

[cosmic raft]

@warm anchor

https://printer.discord.com/

[warm anchor]

I have so many question rn

[languid vale]

anyone know how to do the new discord banners ;-;

[languid vale]

you can modify it's data to make it aggro

/data merge entity @e[type=endermite,limit=1] {PlayerSpawned:1b,PersistenceRequired:1b,CustomName:{"text":"Target"}}

[warm anchor]

The true 2010 video quality

[cosmic raft]

[warm anchor]

Dude got legit skill though

you can 100% know that isnt really edited. Hes got the move

[cosmic raft]

fairly sure that's from a Canadian TV series

yea

Vid Kids

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned Bababouy100#7087 (no) [1 total infraction] -- sulu#5890.

[cosmic raft]

!ban @dry quartz fuck off

[warm anchor]

that was lighting fast lol

[mighty storm]

Do they not realize it is released 😂

[warm anchor]

I havent finish reading it

and hes already gone!

[cosmic raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43bgW9Yv5LU&t=9m45s

[warm anchor]

Something about those old videos man.

giving it that rich texture feel

[unkempt drift]

got pinged

the guy who was banned?

[cosmic raft]

yes

[unkempt drift]

mass ping or...

[cosmic raft]

https://korobi.vq.lc/network/esper/channel/paper/logs/#L43

[warm anchor]

I mean it is released

with minimum plugin, it's pretty stable

[unkempt drift]

oh yes, that's how to speed up development

[cosmic raft]

@unkempt drift hurry!

[unkempt drift]

@ mods ban kash pls

[dusk drift]

Hurry up coz I want to play smh

[warm anchor]

#46 solved the most annoying issue

[mighty storm]

it muted them instantly too lol

like nice try

[warm anchor]

I see aurora got waken up. Shes' on mobile

[ancient bolt]

@unkempt drift there's not much time!

[cosmic raft]

please send help

[ancient bolt]

Didn't know it got as hot as Oklahoma in Canada

[warm anchor]

Just dont go outside

[ancient bolt]

guess that's global warming for you

[cosmic raft]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-nye-john-oliver-global-warming-planet-on-fire-gif-14132286

[peak dirge]

It's a positively pleasant 28.3 degrees Celsius down here. The answer is to move to the Southeastern United States. Just stay away from the coast.

Oh, wait. You want to keep your free health care and don't want our gun violence.

[warm anchor]

Don’t forget about the maple syrup

[brave mountain]

How it feels, a heat wave?

I live in Panamá.

[karmic harness]

SavOS: Energy level critical, (26 Hr on cycle)

This isn't good

[limpid comet]

oh the joys of living in a valley

[random tide]

Anyone have a recommendation for a dedicated host?

[karmic harness]

Want a risk of a data center fire??

[proud lance]

OVH, Hetzner

[karmic harness]

If yes, go with OVH

[proud lance]

I am trying out ReliableSite when I see a 5900X

[karmic harness]

Tvh OVH isn't bad

[random tide]

Wym. Im currently with Apex so i don't see what the difference would be in that regard

[karmic harness]

Choose the BHS datacenter

I'm just thinking back to OVH's mishap

[random tide]

Ahhh ill look into that

OVH looked pretty good to me but im just gonna do some research thanks

[hardy lodge]

I want to run my mc server
& have it start up again even if the server restarts for some reason
I also want access to the server's shell
& I also want to be able to like write a script so the mc server stops itself at 3 am in the morning, copies its directory, then turns back on the server, then zips the copied directory & then uses scp to copy that zipped directory to my raspberry pi
What's the best way to do all that?

[proud lance]

just assume every datacenter you will ever host in will catch fire

and do backups

problem solved

[karmic harness]

^ disasters happen

[merry talon]

lol kash

just wait til Monday

[karmic harness]

Lol

Oh wait that's not that bad

42c oh

Let me see what that is

Yes 42c is hot

[proud lance]

systemd service service script for automatic restarts, then a script on your server with access to your raspberry pi 4

all of this you are going to either have to write yourself or find scripts online for

[hardy lodge]

But with systemd service, I cant get access to the server's shell

[proud lance]

uh what

do you mean access the console?

[hardy lodge]

ye

[karmic harness]

47c was the highest temp I've ever seen

[true canyon]

@worn ember I'm a pro

[limpid comet]

if you start the server in a tmux/screen session you can access it

[hardy lodge]

But screen gets terminated if the server gets restarted

[limpid comet]

put an infinite loop in your bash script

[hardy lodge]

Anyways, never mind, I just got an idea

[hardy lodge]

No thanks lol

[limpid comet]

why?

[proud lance]

without going into the full details

https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/612118

[limpid comet]

infinite loop the java command; it'll rerun the java process whenever it ends

[proud lance]

the reply by Stewart

[hardy lodge]

ok

Thanks!

[proud lance]

or get a panel to do all of it for you

[karmic harness]

I would give you a template one I had

I switched to pterodactyl tho

[pseudo shadow]

I'm nimble

[potent fossil]

is github gonna get mad at me for uploading 1.5 gb of images

[merry talon]

wtf are you doing

[ancient bolt]

no

github repos have a max size of 100GB

[merry talon]

I thought there was a soft limit of 1GB

https://docs.github.com/en/github/managing-large-files/working-with-large-files/what-is-my-disk-quota

[ancient bolt]

haven't heard that before

[potent fossil]

looks like "plz try to stay under 1gb, but if you go over plz REALLY try to stay under 5"

and then a hard limit shortly after

https://docs.github.com/en/github/managing-large-files/working-with-large-files/what-is-my-disk-quota

oh

jfc

thanks sweepy

[merry talon]

but also if it's just images and no code

idk

[potent fossil]

i mean it's an anki deck and the images are part of the deck source

so idk

if they tell me to fuck off then whatever, i'll put it somewhere else

[merry talon]

good plan

[potent fossil]

(there are some helper scripts for updating word lists and stuff so, that IS code)

it's a mixture

[ancient bolt]

my company's main repo was 20GB and had a single file in it that was 500mb lol. So only way to push it to github was to remove that file from the commit history

[potent fossil]

[ancient bolt]

instead I just enabled LFS and converted it to LFS, now it's tiny

weird what lots of binary files do, even when you have a massive repo with like 80k commits

[potent fossil]

Is that an option for me when it's just thousands of small files, rather than a few big ones?

Prob not right

[ancient bolt]

sure

LFS is not about the size of files

but you gotta pay

[potent fossil]

oh F

[merry talon]

well like LFS = large file storage

so it's not ideal

[ancient bolt]

unless you use nexus as your LFS repo

I mean, LFS is good for binary files in general

[abstract peak]

Anyone know of a good replace for bosshsoppro gui plugin?

[ancient bolt]

for images it would work well

[abstract peak]

perhaps one that auto converts

or possibly has a similar API

[merry talon]

yeah I guess

but yeah they charge you for more than 1GB in lfs

[potent fossil]

Hmm ok. Well, I'll prob delete most of the images later anyway. I need to pick a few out of the haystack. So, I'm just putting it on there for the moment I guess. But it'll always be there in the commit history I suppose.

[ancient bolt]

https://docs.github.com/en/billing/managing-billing-for-git-large-file-storage/about-billing-for-git-large-file-storage

[merry talon]

with a minimum 50GB storage pack

[ancient bolt]

would be $5 / month for you if you're the only one using the repo like that

unless you were doing something to somehow bust that 50GB bandwidth cap

[random tide]

Does vault work with 1.17?

[autumn glen]

.try

[limber knot]

https://tryitands.ee/

[random tide]

😔

[cunning raft]

ye it does

very rare that vault breaks

[random tide]

Thank you much appreciated

[merry talon]

the world if github's link to definition popups supported third party dependencies:

[limpid comet]

how'd that work

Run a "decompile library" GitHub action?

[ancient bolt]

github is already able to match dependencies to their repos

it would just...do that for references

hell it probably already works for javascript

javascript always gets the fanciest features (and the features first)

[proper wraith]

is there anyplace I can find all the current issues with paper 1.17?

[ancient bolt]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/projects/13

[unkempt skiff]

hello

does anyone know why shulkers don't activate pressure plates on paper servers?

[void void]

I should probably go to bed

But I'm not

[unkempt skiff]

thank you

yep

[proud lance]

.optimize

[limber knot]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimization⚡.283181/

additional tips for improving server performance - https://www.spigotmc.org/posts/3684550

[proud lance]

whoops wrong channel

[limpid comet]

oh, i didn't know GitHub could do that

[elfin rose]

Hello, what is no-tick view distance?

[novel horizon]

https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/server/configuration.html#viewdistances

[elfin rose]

Thanks!

[void void]

Can you sen d me a good plugin for bedwars please?

[green turret]

How about GoodBedwars?

It's a good Bedwars plugin

[void void]

tank youù

[green turret]

Now I feel bad

[potent fossil]

LUL

[worthy moth]

hello

can i ask is paper and purpur the same thing?

[twin lagoon]

no

[worthy moth]

oh ok

[twin lagoon]

if paper and purpur are the same thing then it would just be paper

[limber knot]

Well, we would have a problem then

[worthy moth]

sorry im dumb, its just someone said i should use purpur but ive never heard of it

paper seems to be work pretty well

[ashen cliff]

But why?

[twin lagoon]

i'd suggest sticking to paper if you don't have any issues / performance issues

[worthy moth]

yes thats what im thinking tbh

thanks i'll stick to what i know 🙂

also anyone have suggestions for best host for about 30 people online at the same time?

[twin lagoon]

dedicatedmc, bloomhost

[wispy blade]

mimchale!

[limber knot]

~selfhost~

[wispy blade]

selfhosting based.

[worthy moth]

selfhost?

[twin lagoon]

don't

[worthy moth]

what ram would i need 8gb?

[scenic crane]

thanks for change my nick, you beat me to it

[worthy moth]

im using apex rn but looking at options

[wispy blade]

remember: minecraft loves CPU more than it loves huge amounts of ram 👀

[worthy moth]

oo ok

[wispy blade]

8 gigs is fine for 30 people tho ^^

[ashen cliff]

Remember bro. At least 1 TB of memory should be allocated at all times.

[limber knot]

just use proper GC flags

[wispy blade]

only if using KGBGC bro!

[worthy moth]

Dedicated CPU
2 Logical Cores
RAM
8 GB
NVMe Storage
120 GB
Split Server Limit
3 Servers

is that enought

thats bloomhost

AMD Ryzen 9 3900 (EU)

[wispy blade]

yeah, that's plenty tbh

[worthy moth]

for 30+ plus people

like 30 - 40 i think

[frank otter]

I run like 20 people comfortable on 8gb/i3

[ashen cliff]

Till it's dedicated.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[frank otter]

it's be good enough for 30 people

unless it's a smp and everyone's loading in chunks

[rugged sonnet]

im probably gonna get flamed for this but does anybody have experience with a backdoor? somebody somehow got op and has been using it for the past 3 days, but all suspicious activity ends in logs later than that, no evidence for how he got it... i can only assume hes been sitting on this op for months and the only thing i can think of is to go through every log and search keywords like his username, ip, /op, /lp, etc

[ashen cliff]

Bungee?

[potent fossil]

check your...ops file??

also bungee

[rugged sonnet]

we dont use bungee

[rugged sonnet]

didnt know thats a thing ty

[novel horizon]

or permission groups 🤷‍♂️

[rugged sonnet]

er

does ops just show the current opped players?

[novel horizon]

yeah

it shows any player that has op afaik

[potent fossil]

failing an entry in the ops file, remove all plugins that are not from an official source or that you dont know off the top of your head what they do

[untold copper]

replace all the .jar files you have

[potent fossil]

it shows registered ops, but a plugin could be coded such that they dont need op

[golden gust]

There are no known back doors in the server

99% chance that you installed some dodgy plugin

[rugged sonnet]

right

i just meant experience with exploits in general

[novel horizon]

some plugin, gave someone op, or gave someone permissions, it can be multiple things

no

there's no "force op exploit"

[rugged sonnet]

i know they either got op or got the permission "*" but im not sure how

[potent fossil]

a dodgy plugin

[rugged sonnet]

ill send the list

[novel horizon]

we don't know either lol

[ashen cliff]

Or the usual, someone who already had perms, gave them perms.

[golden gust]

as said, there are no known exploits, the only common way of people gaining privs on servers these days is through dodgy plugins and such, or ^

[novel horizon]

check every plugin you have, download a .jar file from trusted source, no black markets or anything like that etc.

and check permissions, check ops file, as we said before, that's your guide for what to do

[rugged sonnet]

i only use well-known plugins directly from the spigot page, plus my own very basic one that doesnt mess with permissions at all

also the permissions are fucked beyond recognition

[novel horizon]

what does that mean

how it can be "fucked beyong recognition"

[rugged sonnet]

because the opped guy gave op to someone who actually knows luckperms

[novel horizon]

what

op cant use luckperms afaik

[rugged sonnet]

and he just messed up all the groups

/lp commands

[ashen cliff]

With the default config, they can.

[novel horizon]

lol

well

then delete whole luckperms and create new, or just use backup

[rugged sonnet]

alright\

personalkits is my own

[potent fossil]

tf is Panilla

[novel horizon]

vanilla with p

🤷‍♂️

tuske, skelleett, panilla, never heard of those

also illegalstack idk if that's necessary on paper

clearlag? ew

pluginmanager? probably another ew

[rugged sonnet]

tuske and skellet are on the skript website

clearlag is pretty well known

[novel horizon]

and pretty much shit

[waxen panther]

Skr*pt

[rugged sonnet]

i mean in terms of reputability

[wispy blade]

clearlagg adds more lag than removes it

[rugged sonnet]

i realized that, a lot of the trash plugins are removed on my other server but ive preserved these for reference

[green turret]

You could install MobArena. People sometimes complain that they are not allowed to break their arenas even though they are op, but that's because MobArena doesn't care what tHe SeRvEr thinks about you. It believes in equal treatment!

[wispy blade]

i love garbagemule cuz he's epic

[rugged sonnet]

im only really concerned about /seen, is there any way to block all info grabbing commands from even opped players?

i mean ik /seen is essentials

but idk if there are any other commands like it

[novel horizon]

well first of all, you should not really give op

just like that

but to use permissions

and then there u can give /seen only for those who u want, easy

[rugged sonnet]

of course i wouldnt give op the problem is he got it without my knowledge

[novel horizon]

disable /op commands in luck perms

or/and also disable LP commands for opped players

[patent charm]

I don't use OP, my highest rank has the wildcard and I negate any perms I don't want anyone to have

[golden gust]

you can make LP not give a single shit about OP in its config file

and then op basically does fuck all

[rugged sonnet]

oh sick

tbh i dont know if the person got the "*" permission first or op first

[novel horizon]

doesn't matter

[rugged sonnet]

so what im gathering is disable all luckperm permissions for every single group, and configure lp config to ignore op

[novel horizon]

no

you dont need to disable all LP perms for everyone

noone has them unless u give them, and ops

just disable ops perms for LP

and done basically, then check who has LP perms or *

[worn ember]

should be yeah, it only borks with the datapack

[green turret]

It doesn't work like that. Permissions here are not like permissions on your phone. Plugins don't "ask permission". Best you can do is deny all permissions and hope that plugins check before spilling the beans.

[rugged sonnet]

it doesnt matter if they dont have minecraft.command.op if they have essentials.seen or something similar

[novel horizon]

if you dont specify it in perms, they don't have essentials.seen afaik

and also there's no sense for you to "block command for opped players"

[potent fossil]

uhm

/lp editor

look through all the assigned perms and who has shit

[waxen panther]

@worn ember x

[novel horizon]

dont give op to people like that 🤷‍♂️ sure u didnt give it but still

[worn ember]

[novel horizon]

change the config, look through perms etc.

done

if you dont want then recreate perms

it might take dozens of minutes 🤷‍♂️

or save those what u have now and recreate them

if you think your perms are shitty mess

[rugged sonnet]

i did this but it doesnt help, the one who started it rearranged perms and reassigned groups

[potent fossil]

y'all dun straight fucked up

[rugged sonnet]

i dont care about recreating perms, its just the fact that as far as i could tell the groups were safe but still got breached

[novel horizon]

well u can also use /lp log if u want, but still

[waxen panther]

delete the server

[novel horizon]

↑

[rugged sonnet]

i

[green turret]

💣

[novel horizon]

but /lp log command can help u a bit

[rugged sonnet]

ty i will check it out

[ashen cliff]

Daily reminder: https://posili.me/i/2021-06-27_12-22-24.png

[potent fossil]

[rugged sonnet]

well

the culprit just started randomly adding groups to himself

and thats the beginning of his luckperms history

so that means he got op first

[novel horizon]

[golden gust]

borked plugins setting op is basically like, the defacto thing

[delicate patio]

I thought the win11 store was suppose to have a "complete oberhaul"?

[rugged sonnet]

awe some

[ashen cliff]

Cool looking Google playstore bro.

[golden gust]

if you're looking at the leaked build it's a stupid earlier release

[rugged sonnet]

thanks for taking the time to help guys

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/vRR4fExHPEs this was pretty good

[novel horizon]

"were good were good its fine" "spawning dragons"

🤷‍♂️

[formal turret]

Look its mrbeast

[novel horizon]

10 is too much tho, kinda weird

[jaunty meadow]

is paper 1.17 out of beta?

just asking lmao

[twin lagoon]

.downloads

lmao

[limber knot]

https://papermc.io/downloads

[proper wraith]

how do you do

im bad

;p;

[proper wraith]

lol

[twin lagoon]

[proper wraith]

how do o

[jaunty meadow]

o lmao

alr thanks!

[waxen panther]

[twin lagoon]

[waxen panther]

[twin lagoon]

[void void]

🙄

[wispy blade]

@waxen panther bromc

how is your sunday

[waxen panther]

hei

boring

[wispy blade]

same

[waxen panther]

at my parents so I can’t G A M E

[wispy blade]

big sadge

yea dad took my ethernet cable so can't game either 😔

[potent fossil]

lol

[wispy blade]

and he won't give it back Sadge

[potent fossil]

how old are you naomi, out of curiosity

[wispy blade]

15

[potent fossil]

that makes sense

[plucky sparrow]

you're probably using the leaked build and it doesn't feature the new store

idk what were you expecting

[frank otter]

I found my old raspberry pi

what should I do with it

[wispy blade]

run your website/discord bot off it

[waxen panther]

Break it in half

[frank otter]

I don't have either

[wispy blade]

yet

[frank otter]

Why would I need a website

[wispy blade]

why not

[frank otter]

I'm like your age what am I going to put on there

'Hello I am (name) and here is some of my bad code'

[waxen panther]

He’s

YeS*

[wispy blade]

good learning experience tho

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wind geyser]

Damn

Didn’t expect that

[waxen panther]

Fr thought 11 tops /s

[wind geyser]

Pihole. Make sure to tell the people you live with before that you’re doing something like that cause it made my family very upset when I tried pihole.

[potent fossil]

just dont point your router at it and it should be fine lol

point only your pc

[stiff totem]

anyone knows a plugin or datapack that disables the entire saved hotbars?

[olive marlin]

They are client side, if you mean the creative thing.

[stiff totem]

yeah, in the creative thing

is there no way to disable it?

[potent fossil]

saved what now

[golden gust]

No

the hotbar is 100% client sided

[potent fossil]

very confuse

[stiff totem]

saved toolbars the thing where you can store custom items on creative

[potent fossil]

interesting

[golden gust]

gfdi simple

[potent fossil]

i haven't legitimately used creative mode in at least 6 years cat

[stiff totem]

rather its called saved hotbars

[golden gust]

nor have I

I still know it exists coz people bitch about it often enough

[potent fossil]

[golden gust]

But, yea, nothing you can do, creative mode is 100% controlled by the client

I think plugins do some hackaround crap to like, just prevent it when they see the "looks" of it, e.g. a flood of creative set slot packets, but, otherwise, nope

[stiff totem]

thats saddening, is CreativeItemControl effective from removing unobtainable items

[golden gust]

Sorta

Those plugins only do so much

[stiff totem]

ah i see, its better than nothing hahaha

thanks for the response

[ashen cliff]

Just wipe all NBT bro.

[olive marlin]

https://twitter.com/lunasorcery/status/1408785025492000770?s=19

Luna 🏳️‍🌈 (@lunasorcery)

So let's talk about video game preservation, data hoarding, and Minecraft.

(🧵 thread)

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Twitter · Jun 26, 2021, 1:51 PM

[tropic flame]

amazing

[vague ermine]

INB4 TLDR
ok so after using paper for a few days i have been having alot of corrupt chunks. I belive it is somthing happening when they are generation. Anyone else have anything like that? regularly crashing, and getting stuck on {Saving chunks for level 'ServerLevel[world_nether]'/minecraft:the_nether} or what ever world happens to have the issue. NOTE has not happend once in overworld. only nether and end.

[cedar spade]

You're probably looking for #paper-help

[vague ermine]

oof i am the dumb lol didnt see that

ty

[wind geyser]

don't worry, it happens to all of us

[left swift]

Lol build 39

[viral hornet]

That was awesome to read

[ashen cliff]

I remember that modified jar, someone added a minimap to it and no one had a clean copy.

[meager tusk]

Whoever added the minimap is a legend.

[ashen cliff]

Fact!

[untold copper]

day #21 of trying to get abs: Did a 40 min HIIT with tabata and finisher

[wispy blade]

sheeesh

[meager tusk]

Snoopa Abs Tips

[merry talon]

Just ordered the one air conditioner that I could find anywhere

So now we'll have two in a one bedroom apartment

Don't need to deal with my roommates selfishness ever again lol

[wispy blade]

gg

@limpid comet remind me to PR pterodactyl ram amount fix on startmc.sh

[elfin escarp]

is there a way to get mods on a paper server?

[quasi valley]

no

no good way anyways

[elfin escarp]

ty

[limpid comet]

PR pterodactyl ram amount fix on startmc.sh

[waxen panther]

@limpid comet

[limpid comet]

@waxen panther

[mossy vessel]

f

[waxen panther]

[wispy blade]

working on it rn :D

[night drum]

How can I nerfar spawn pillagers on my server? in the towers

[zenith isle]

my friend summoned 400,000 creeper heads and i dont have a backup

help

everytime i open the server it crashes

[wispy blade]

gg, you're done for

[olive marlin]

No.

There's Paper setting to nuke too many entities in chunk.

[waxen panther]

[zenith isle]

well its not working

i cant stay on the server for more than a minute

or eldr ill get kicked

else*

[ashen cliff]

1 minute is enough to remove them.

[zenith isle]

how

i cant

[olive marlin]

https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/server/configuration.html#entity-per-chunk-save-limit

[zenith isle]

no

like

i cant do anything

[olive marlin]

This also does loading.

[ashen cliff]

They mean heads, not mobs.

[zenith isle]

the server doesnt even load in correctly befor ei get kicked

before I

so i cant do commands

[olive marlin]

Ugh, yeah. TEs are probably not handled by it.

Get external editor like Amulet?

[zenith isle]

nope

its just a paper server with essentialsX and worldedit

[unkempt drift]

Summoned heads? Like the items on the ground? Or placed down 400000 heads

[zenith isle]

placed

[unkempt drift]

Yeah, you’re gonna need an external editor like amulet to fix this probably.

And take away perms from your friend

[zenith isle]

i already did that

[upbeat falcon]

Amulet Editor

https://www.amuletmc.com/

AMULET · Amulet is a Minecraft world editor built from the ground up with the lessons learnt from previous editors in mind. · Amulet is built on top of a world ...

Requested by Machine Maker - About 734,000 results (0.43 seconds)

[olive marlin]

Download world, open with amulet and then delete them. https://www.amuletmc.com/

[zenith isle]

whenever he gets angru he like gets a command block and summons things

how do i download the world?

[night drum]

Can I add an unlisted entity to this config?

[left swift]

You should ban them then

[olive marlin]

Yes. These there are only examples.

[left swift]

Or dont give them powers

[zenith isle]

k

[unkempt drift]

Any vanilla entity type can be added there

[night drum]

aaaaa ok, thanks

[unkempt drift]

Now that you mention it prof, I wonder if a tile entity save per chunk would be good. It’s a little more complex cause you have to remove the block and tile entity, but might be interesting

[zenith isle]

how do i download amulet

its a zip file

[unkempt drift]

Probably an executable inside. Extract it and run that

[zenith isle]

ok

@vital sinew

thats who did it

[unkempt drift]

Lol. Calling them out here

[zenith isle]

i cant find the executable

[untold copper]

bro! get abs with me bro!

[meager tusk]

I have abs.

Only one.

[golden gust]

BOIZ

[meager tusk]

Burger Pack.

[golden gust]

UR GONNA NEED SOME CLEANEX

https://twitter.com/JoelBurgess/status/1409013849584504833

Joel Burgess (@JoelBurgess)

I said goodbye today to River, who most of you know as Fallout 4’s Dogmeat.

Heartbroken doesn't cover it, but I won’t eulogize her here. For twitter, I thought it'd be appropriate to look back at her impact on that game.

(plus, writing about game dev hurts less than grieving)

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Twitter · Jun 27, 2021, 5:00 AM

I got something in my eyes

[zenith isle]

well

i put in the coords of where all the creeper heads are

[limpid comet]

NOOOO

[zenith isle]

yeah

amulet crashed

[frank otter]

what's fallout dog meat

[zenith isle]

zzzcat

help

[golden gust]

I ain't ever played the game, but, it's a dog in the game

[wispy blade]

@limpid comet i made it work, PRing now :D

[golden gust]

no

[zenith isle]

please

help

[golden gust]

No

[vernal moth]

Go hunt down the amulet discord and ask them

[zenith isle]

my friend spawned 400k creeper heads

[limpid comet]

[golden gust]

use worldedit or restore a backup

[zenith isle]

dont have a backup

[waxen panther]

get better friends

[zenith isle]

cant stay on server long enough to use worldedit

[olive marlin]

You can use it from console too.

[solid siren]

does increasing height limit cause lag?

[waxen panther]

it wont help

[golden gust]

inherently? probably not

just the height you can build in is likely mostly* irrelevant

[solid siren]

what do u mean it wont help

[golden gust]

I mean

the server now has to save more blocks

the server now has to load more blocks

[solid siren]

i see

thank youuu

not worth then

[golden gust]

it's probably nothing of note or worth caring about, but, still

[olive marlin]

Isn't the biggest impact on the network pipe and client having to render more?

[golden gust]

just from those sections existing, no

if you're increasing the gen height itself, etc, you just made a costly process more burny

[olive marlin]

Not sure why, but I'd imagine sending blocks and rendering them more expensive than loading/saving for some reason.

Oh, yeah. That too.

[golden gust]

there are optimizations for empty chunks iirc

[untold copper]

TIL how to crimp an ethernet cable

[waxen panther]

why are you asking here

[zenith isle]

@wispy blade

[wispy blade]

why ping men

[zenith isle]

look at my screenshare

[wispy blade]

no

[zenith isle]

just do it

[waxen panther]

bootrom isnt enough to downgrade permanently, if you were able to you'd have to stay tethered after

but ask in the r/jb discord, they have useful support channels

[limber knot]

*glances at Discord TOS *

runs

[waxen panther]

if its against discord TOS then why is their server partnered lol

[wispy blade]

true

[limber knot]

because discord TOS is freaking worthless

[waxen panther]

why'd you bring it up then

[limber knot]

like any other TOS, it only exists to protect the company in case of a lawsuite

[wispy blade]

yep, they don't even state you're not allowed to raid servers

[limber knot]

because for once I am able to bring up TOS in a correct case ;D

[waxen panther]

ok

[zenith isle]

brocc

[waxen panther]

when are you going to relate it to communism

[zenith isle]

thats a bot

[waxen panther]

no its not

[zenith isle]

yes it is

[limber knot]

I don't think politics is allowed in here? Why would I bring that up?

[waxen panther]

it's an irc bridge

[zenith isle]

what is that

[waxen panther]

a bridge for irc

[limber knot]

try google

nothing

[zenith isle]

what the fuck

[limber knot]

IRC is a lie

[zenith isle]

he multiplied

[void void]

People still use irc?

[limber knot]

yeah

[waxen panther]

the annoying ones do yes

[limber knot]

Wait

[zenith isle]

WHAT THE FUCK

[limber knot]

People still use IRC?

[zenith isle]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[limber knot]

wtf people

[zenith isle]

WHY IS THERE SO MANY

[limber knot]

wtf caat

*huggles electronicboy *

well, someone mentioned IRC, of course the lurkers would invade

purrs

[zenith isle]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[limber knot]

:3

[zenith isle]

cries in corner

[void void]

I don’t understand, why use irc over discord? Just preference?

[limber knot]

to keep IRC running

you can choose your client

my IRC client is better than my discord client

facts.

irc has actual dark mode B)

[zenith isle]

so who r u guys

[limber knot]

Discord: tries to make the UK more accessible

And a lot better blocking

also why switch client if I have it already running for almost 10 years lol

bro, i'm the ceo of reading

[waxen panther]

wish i could block irc people from discord though 😁

[zenith isle]

ohhhh

[limber knot]

ok bromc nobody asked

[void void]

Maybe I’ll reinstall irc lol

[waxen panther]

wtf wtf wtf

[golden gust]

Discord:

[limber knot]

my client cannot block any specific person on discord

well mine can lmao

issue exists both ways :weary:

but hey, at least I can block entrie bridges

[golden gust]

So, that's either not as totally bad as it looked the first time I saw it, maybe I was having a bad eye day then

[limber knot]

if your client doesn't support blocking based on message regex then wtf

hm, should check that tbh

idk, I never checked

being able to filter out spam message is an essential feature in certain channels lol

brocc you really need to get moderated

Well

[waxen panther]

please moderate me

[limber knot]

horny

We where planning on locking him in proxi's basement for moderation

[mossy vessel]

I'll moderate you

[waxen panther]

as long as proxi's basement doesnt have an irc bridge i dont mind

[limber knot]

sounds like great fun

Don't you threaten me with a good time

Am I too late for the IRC party?

[zenith isle]

he means

[limber knot]

ay, mbax

right on time, mbax

Excellent.

Woah, suddenly there's a lot more ops on IRC than I remember.

They're everywhere!

You better watch out

everywhere and nowhere at the same time :eyes:

You better watch out

[mossy vessel]

brocc

[limber knot]

jacksepticeye intensifies?

[mossy vessel]

I have something for you

[limber knot]

You better watch out

[mossy vessel]

https://i.imgur.com/JWFx4se.png I hope that pleases you better

[limber knot]

If NMF were on here there could be another op!

^

[waxen panther]

looks gross nmf

at least its not i*c

[mossy vessel]

irc filter works out well ;p

on irc mode

[waxen panther]

oh wait i see

[mossy vessel]

what else would I want

[waxen panther]

i thought you were showing me irc layout mode

how do you do that

[limber knot]

enable compact layout in appearance

[waxen panther]

not that

🙄

[true canyon]

[waxen panther]

nmf doesnt see messages from gross irc people

[limber knot]

blocked korobi prob

[waxen panther]

cant

[golden gust]

I just don't see the appeal of not-compact

Like, I mean

what a waste of whitespace

[wispy blade]

whitespace

WHAT

[uncut moss]

compact is just an eyesore to me

[golden gust]

Okay

Fine, dark space

[wispy blade]

not even dark

[true canyon]

I prefer it when the usernames are isolated vertically from the chat messages, and compact mode doesn't offer that. At least non-compact mode has all the messages start at the same position.

name          | chat here
very long name| more chat here

is what I prefer

[wispy blade]

fair enough ngl

[limber knot]

Meanwhile here I am on thelounge which doesn't offer that either qq

pathetic irc client

[wispy blade]

ok leaf

[limber knot]

but that's only beacuse of the discord relay

[wispy blade]

yep

[waxen panther]

😬 👎

looks dogshit

[wispy blade]

like you :D

[limber knot]

t r u e

Wasn't there some planned IRC feature which might make this kinda crap better to deal with?

I forget

brocc aren't you and cat supposed to be off crying about being born in the UK

[golden gust]

So

[mossy vessel]

Too many colors

[golden gust]

Did you know that when you become a british citizen

[limber knot]

god don't tell me

[true canyon]

https://github.com/ircv3/ircv3-specifications/pull/452

[limber knot]

just shoot me

[golden gust]

When you're given your naturalisation papers, you've gotta sing the national anthem while looking at the queen.

[limber knot]

You sure know everything about IRC

[waxen panther]

this mf

[limber knot]

irc is still being worked on?

[waxen panther]

naomi reacted with a : this :

cant believe a 15 year old is insulting me about being british

🙄

[wispy blade]

i bully everyone

[limber knot]

man isn't irc just fucking notepad connected to the internet

[wispy blade]

shut up

[golden gust]

naomi

go trip on a dildo

[waxen panther]

notepad has infinitely more features than irc

[wispy blade]

likewise cat

[limber knot]

true

IRC is more than just notepad, leaf. I expected more from you.

[void void]

All I remember from using irc is grown ass dudes asking to see me nude

[waxen panther]

[limber knot]

Then you went to the wrong areas

[void void]

Maybe

[limber knot]

Heck, you would need to be lucky to find anyone

ah yes

irc also somehow has more problems than notepad too

forgot about that, thanks for reminding me

[golden gust]

In our defence

it is a rule of the internet

So, deliver or GTFO

[limber knot]

you're on discord

[true canyon]

Good lord, that's awful.

[limber knot]

you're likely talking to a child

calm the fuck down there cat

[golden gust]

I'm just going for the jokes ;-;

[limber knot]

your entire nation is a joke

[wispy blade]

what jokes

[void void]

I find it funny now. Nothing ever happened lol.

[true canyon]

I haven't received your nudes yet. I expect them on my desk by 7am UTC tomorrow.

[limber knot]

a single joke

[golden gust]

lol

[frank otter]

what nation and what joke

[waxen panther]

calling england a nation is a bit generous

[limber knot]

THE nation and THE joke

[golden gust]

next week: I'm attending my first councilling session

[limber knot]

calling england a joke is accurate