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ancient bolt
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yup

golden gust
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Ryzen looks interesting but they're still in the "eh" ballpark in the real scheme of things

ancient bolt
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also physical esc key is nice

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Ryzen is fucking dope dude idk what you're smoking

floral mesa
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intel really has rehashed their product lines for a long time, not really doing much to actually fix issues with the architecture.

ancient bolt
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weird what no competition does

golden gust
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lemon amnesia

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I mean, what

ancient bolt
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until the competition comes back and crushes you

warm mesa
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Unless Intel gets some fresh ideas and fixes their production issues, I don't think they have a strong future.

floral mesa
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they will be fine, they have other product lines, such as network cards and the like

ancient bolt
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I mean, intel is going to figure something out eventually, but it takes 4-5 years minimum to design a new chip

floral mesa
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they arent solely just CPUs

golden gust
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I just feel in part that AMD is like burning their candle for now, but, AMD always do this

warm mesa
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Nvidia, Apple, Samsung, Qualcomm, AMD will become more dominant.

ancient bolt
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so unless they have something really far into the design process they aren't gonna make any kind of comeback any time soon

warm mesa
ancient bolt
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AMD has been extremely consistent in their deliveries

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they're new architecture is very good

golden gust
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They spend years behind intel due to some general critical flaw in the CPUs, have a massive ass perf boost which actually puts them on rival with Intel but in reality it's a general case of they just fixed the huge gaping bottleneck in their last line, before intel comes along and steamrolls them after a few years

warm mesa
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Intel screwed up as bad as Microsoft did when it came to smartphones.

merry talon
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But they aren't rivaling intel, they're destroying them

ancient bolt
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AMD is not rivaling intel

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yeah

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it's not even a competition for AMD right now

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Intel has nothing that can compete with AMD's chips right now

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and intel is limited by their current architecture - like I said earlier new chip designs take years of R&D, and if intel has been sitting on their ass all these years as it appears they have, then they won't have anything to answer back for upwards of half a decade

golden gust
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idk, I don't pay attention to hardware all too much, and it just feels like I've seen this before with AMD wiping the floor with intel all for intel to come back and sucker punch AMD

ancient bolt
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this has never happened afaik

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if it happened it was 1-2 decades ago

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AMD has always been the "good for the budget" option, never able to truly compete with intel

warm mesa
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I'm less concerned about speed on CPU's right now. I am more concerned on power efficiency.

ancient bolt
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their new architecture is a whole different level though

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yeah, ARM's simplicity is a huge bonus for it. It took a while to actually figure out how to use it well but apple is putting out chips that aren't even in the same class as current desktop chips

warm mesa
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Moore's Law unfortunately has been broken for years now.

golden gust
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a 2002ish AMD anthon 2000+ or something wiped the floor compared to the intel machine my mother picked up off my uncle even though it was a good few years newer

ancient bolt
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but - AMD 5950x is still the fastest single-threaded CPU atm

golden gust
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Then again, come to think of it, that laptop was all forms of janked up so god knows

ancient bolt
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I assume the M1X or whatever it's called will probably beat it

cosmic raft
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xXM1Xx

golden gust
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oh god

warm mesa
ancient bolt
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xXxGamerzM1xXx

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2 nm means nothing until we actually see performance numbers

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Xnm used to mean something but now it's mostly entirely marketing

warm mesa
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It is projected to achieve 45 percent higher performance, or 75 percent lower energy use, than today's most advanced 7 nm node chipset

ancient bolt
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Yeah, those sound great, but they are not numbers provided by 3rd parties & the chip isn't available on any consumer devices

warm mesa
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The 75 percent lower energy usage would be incredible!

ancient bolt
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I hope those numbers add up, butt I will keep my expectations low until we see something real

merry talon
ancient bolt
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Yeah, that's the real breakthrough AMD was able to hit with this new architecture

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amazing multithreaded performance with seemingly no reduction in singlethreaded performance

floral mesa
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they took what they learned from bulldozer and applied what worked and scrapped what didnt

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bulldozer did quite well multithread wise but the cores were way to complex

peak dirge
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AMD used multi-chip modules in Naples Epyc (2017) and MCMs in Zen 2 (2019) with devastating effects at a time Intel was seriously behind in terms of leading semiconductor technology. It's hard to think that even with Zen that AMD would be even competitive if Intel did not fall behind with developing 10nm and 7nm. Instead TSMC has the lead and is selling Intel 7nm-equivalent chips to Apple by the truckload.

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Intel has a long game of catch-up to play.

floral mesa
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the last time intel glued two cpu dies together was the pentium d. Though yet again, it was netburst and it was a shitty architecture, plus its like running 2 cpus on a single socket... actually it was.

peak dirge
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And yes, AMD did glue CPU dies together with first-generation Epyc. But that gamble actually worked out well for them.

floral mesa
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But it wasnt an afterthought

peak dirge
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And then Zen 2 refined everything so that you could basically drop in CCDs sharing the same I/O die and brought that technology to the consumer space.

floral mesa
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plus the ccds are the same between EPYC and ryzen

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that is quite a bit of savings

peak dirge
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Well, the CCDs are binned

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The CCDs that can clock high go into Ryzens, the highest-quality CCDs go into Epyc chips because they need to be reliable.

floral mesa
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I meant compared to something like intel's lineup, because I really doubt the core i7 has 50 some odd cores in its die that happen to be disabled.

cosmic raft
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lmao I was looking in youtube comments

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AMD's new slogan "For gamers by gamers" and Intel is like "Intel inside, kidney outside"

floral mesa
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AMD has a much more efficient binning process

peak dirge
void void
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Was the 1.17 project dropped? Or are they just doing it unseen

brave radish
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It's on the website now

floral mesa
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it makes me wonder how the hell intel has yet to get to 7nm considering TSMC and samsung are on 7nm

void void
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Wdym

peak dirge
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Intel's 10nm process is a money sink and was only continued because the execs wanted it to get done, to avoid a black eye.

brave radish
void void
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Yeah

brave radish
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I mean Mr. Velocity is here but he's talking about AMD

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yeah Paper released already

peak dirge
void void
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Yeah but it's isn't really for public yet it said only use this for testing

brave radish
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Yeah but I'm not sure why that makes you think they dropped it

willow delta
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amd is killing intel rn in performance

brave radish
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it's just gotten beyond the point that they need devs in vc 24/7

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1.17 is still being worked on, just on GitHub the usual way

cosmic raft
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It is for the public, just not for production server usage yet. If you run it in production, you do so at your own risk.

hoary plaza
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hello

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hi @gentle zenith

peak dirge
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IMO, if I were the CEO of Intel, I would focus on trying to get my 5nm node out the door ASAP, sparing no expense.

cosmic raft
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lol

gentle zenith
royal kernel
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from 14nm strait to 5

gentle zenith
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this is harassment 😦

hoary plaza
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WHAT

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delete this

peak dirge
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That way, at least there's a chance I could be on par with what TSMC would be at in, say, 2023

hoary plaza
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i need to know when paper is updated to cardboard

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not asking just here to wait

unkempt drift
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updated to what now?

peak dirge
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Heck, I would build an entirely new office in Hsinchu and get some of the smart people there to get it done for me.

hoary plaza
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its a pun

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bc cardboard is stronger then paper

merry talon
cosmic raft
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dunno

brave radish
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@unkempt drift efficient!
Granted I spilled a drink and had to clean it up but you fixed that bug while I was still opening Intellij lol

cosmic raft
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time to start PaperSMC

merry talon
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Oh its Razer

unkempt drift
brave radish
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yeah

unkempt drift
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well, the zombie one is part of a larger zombie API patch

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I looked at that too

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BUT, there is a ton of patch consolidation that could happen. A common example is there are like 5 patches on both server and api that deal with witch API that are all from the same person I believe

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yeah exactly

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but, it doesnt take too long atm to rebase though all 720

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and hopefully, by the time that is a problem, we've moved to having plain old code in the repo for anything non mojang code

stuck wind
void void
brave radish
cosmic raft
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so uh question for people who know android better than me

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best way to send all photos to something like an email or google drive?

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connecting phone to a computer via usb is.... not an option

golden gust
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biggest issue is often email size and stuff like google drive being google drive, last I recall it was pretty meh

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i often just take advantage of some file browser with sftp,but, forget what I often end up running to for that

foggy veldt
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google photos has an auto sync feature if you just want to get all your photos off your device

merry talon
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that or you can just upload them to drive straight from the app?

cosmic raft
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urgh

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i love usb-c

golden gust
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I thought that that was limited but not too sure

cosmic raft
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but i hate it too

merry talon
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why do you hate it

viral hornet
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Select all photos -> Share -> Save to Drive

potent fossil
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This is da wae

cosmic raft
merry talon
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oh you have a c to c cable

cosmic raft
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well

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I have C-C, C-Lightning

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no C-A

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:p

merry talon
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rip

thorny rapids
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at least its not USB b, i hate them cables cause they are hard to replace it seems.

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at least i have a hard time finding them online

golden gust
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be surprised if you couldn't get them on amazon but last I knew they kinda died with wired printers

thorny rapids
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amazon has them, but they are the only place ik atm. i only use USB b for my printer

cosmic raft
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wired printers are not dead? o.o

golden gust
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even the cheaper printers are seemingly having wifi built in

ancient bolt
golden gust
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But, student life, we just went to the library

ancient bolt
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I mean, my printer connects to the network over wifi

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I only need to plug in if the wifi breaks, which being a printer happens every now and then

merry talon
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Unfortunately printers in general are not dead

thorny rapids
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i prefer to plug in still because my wifi is trash

golden gust
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My fave printers are the ones which wake up daily to piss ink out of the nozzle

ancient bolt
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that's why I have a lazer printer

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way better than those bullshit inkjets

thorny rapids
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inkjets= expensive garbage tbh

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never was a fan of them

ancient bolt
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also it doesn't care if it sits for a year between uses like an inkjet does. On an inkjet the ink will dry up forcing you to buy more ink regardless of how much the cartons still have left in them

warm anchor
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Printer is product of hell

potent fossil
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return to manual gutenberg press

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reject printer

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i got that backwards but whatever

warm anchor
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Good job sulu you just jinx it. It’s gonna break next use

slate seal
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This is the way of printers

unkempt drift
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Printers are the worst

cosmic raft
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

upbeat falconBOT
cosmic raft
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^

arctic sky
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Are world edit and world guard available for 1.17? I can’t find them

brave radish
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there's a dev build

thorny rapids
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doesn't seem like it yet, there is a dev build though yea

arctic sky
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Is it accessible to the public?

brave radish
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latest there will probably work; else go to their Discord (linked in #community-guilds) and ask there

arctic sky
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Same with worldguard?

thorny rapids
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yea

arctic sky
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Thanks

brave radish
wispy blade
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mornin

potent fossil
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valorsalute greetings

wispy blade
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i wanna stay in bed a

grave rover
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what about bed b

wispy blade
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hi bromc @waxen panther

waxen panther
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wtf

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how do you know im awake

wispy blade
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you're in paperhelp dummy

waxen panther
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oh i am

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TRUE

wispy blade
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IMAGINE

stuck wind
stuck wind
potent fossil
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Can we stop with the rick roll vids in general

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There's a memes channel, it was kinda funny the first few times over the last couple of weeks but now it's just old

unkempt drift
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In other words, simple just got Rick rolled

potent fossil
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Yeah I've been getting rick rolled multiple times a week by these idiots

unkempt drift
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Imagine clicking to watch yt vids from discord

potent fossil
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But ye by all means, fuck the memes channel shrug

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That is of course until a staff member gets annoyed

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Then it's all over

waxen panther
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there there simple

unkempt drift
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5 days later

waxen panther
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@dull patio

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o woops theres a guy here called salt

unkempt drift
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Lol

potent fossil
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hey hey im just clapping back

broken rampart
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@twin lagoon how do i buy bitcoin with my credit card

potent fossil
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go on an exchange, verify identity, add payment source, submit buy order

wispy blade
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my package arrives today

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:D

potent fossil
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gg

waxen panther
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stop spamming shitty memes in general

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#gifs-and-memes

cursive tartan
wispy blade
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funne

void void
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I'm bored does anyone want to hang out in a voice chat

heady spear
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People are fucking nasty. I’m at the hotel breakfast and people are coughing and sneezing straight into the fucking air

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And people still haven’t found out about face masks here

formal turret
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yum

tame pendant
zealous knot
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Just don’t let people build portals

dull patio
chrome quest
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If I wanted to delete chunks, how do I do that again?

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well large areas of chunks.

tame pendant
chrome quest
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Just the files in region folder?

tame pendant
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yep

chrome quest
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Nothing else?

tame pendant
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that's it

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could also delete poi i think which stores like structure info

chrome quest
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I want to trip my world down a bit for 1.17

wet smelt
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Is it allowed to chat in this channel when not a doctor? (asking for myself)

tame pendant
chrome quest
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Is there a nice command to remove any file with a number greater than 25?

tame pendant
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probably some sorta script you can run

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but chunky would be easiest to use for your purpose

wet smelt
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Or what do you mean by "number greater than 25"?

neat oyster
chrome quest
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Those would probably work.

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but I don't want to use them because I'm dumb.

tame pendant
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use chunky

nimble depot
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I would show mine if I have not sold it

cosmic raft
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:o

nimble depot
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Dell Latitude 14 Rugged Extreme it is then

granite slate
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Hey guys, quick question, I was wondering if I should prefer learning first gradle then maven.

potent fossil
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I would do maven first so that you understand the concept of a maven repository at least, but I suppose that's just an opinion

granite slate
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I already know that basics of maven

potent fossil
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Gradle first should be fine too

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Oh ok then do Gradle

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Love me some Gradle in the morning

granite slate
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XD, Ok ty

wispy blade
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gradle has builtin utils for moving from maven ^^

nimble depot
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Maven is like hell

potent fossil
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<@&748618676189528155>

nimble depot
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Scam

void void
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No

potent fossil
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I already pinged the boys in blue just ignore him

waxen panther
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PogO

nimble depot
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I know it says 500 roubles (about 6 euro) in 5 minutes. What that ACTUALLY does is ask for your moni

potent fossil
waxen panther
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took ur time jomp

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🙄

lean kiln
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stfu

waxen panther
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think about all the roubles!

lean kiln
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?warn 645512871672938518 Sharing links to random russian discords

thorny flickerBOT
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:raised_hands: Warned Ебомбий Валентинович#6435 (Sharing links to random russian discords) [1 total infraction] -- jmp#3822.

lean kiln
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yea it's possible

exotic finch
chrome quest
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How can I reset everyone's spawn location?

wispy blade
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/spawnpoint @a x y z

chrome quest
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I got no player was found. I also want to include players not online.

ashen cliff
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Just don't sell/buy while everything is moving quickly. kekwhyper

potent fossil
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okay i like sailor moon now

nimble depot
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I just send moni to some dodgy guy and git bitcoin back ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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IIRC it works the other way too

mental meadow
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good mooooorning

wispy blade
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hi aurora

worldly flare
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Hi, give me a hand?🤔
I'm quoting hardware for a survival server with many farms of 20-30 people, what do they recommend? (Not so expensive D:)

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I was seeing an "Intel Xeon E5 2630L V3" and about 8GB of ram

nimble depot
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the /tts command is pretty fun to play with

solid siren
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guys do u think ryzen 5 2600 can host 30 players?

untold copper
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sure

solid siren
twin lagoon
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@waxen panther koriLove

granite slate
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Guys, quick question. How do I patch a jar? The command jar -u replace the entire class file... I only want a few strings to be patched...

waxen panther
twin lagoon
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just use something like recaf

granite slate
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For instance, how paper is able to patch the nms? They don't have the source

waxen panther
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its a very big process, lots of work has been put into it

limpid comet
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whole bunch of bullshit

sturdy sphinx
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Anyone know simular clients to MobaXTerm?

waxen panther
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you cant apply its process to just anything without a lot of work

twin lagoon
granite slate
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Ohu

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wow, lot of work

untold copper
mossy cliff
twin lagoon
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no

chrome quest
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Whoever suggested chunky. Thanks. It only took a second to delete a few million chunks.

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Generating chunks is taking a while though.

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Somewhere between 3-18 hours.

olive marlin
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Chunky is epic.

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Yeah, it can be slow.

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You can try pregen on Tuinity usually, for a bit faster gen. But not sure if it's updated yet or not.

sturdy sphinx
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Agree, wish it had couple more features but best so far (like pause on plaayer join or dynmap support)

chrome quest
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I’m generating the gaps in my terrain up to 12000 from 0 0. Then everything beyond that will be 1.17.

ashen cliff
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rather slow eh

ashen cliff
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It's not that bad. Tho, it's not maxing out anything from the looks of it. CPU isn't hitting more than 70% on any core, nor IO limited.

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INB4 THREAD.SLEEP

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yeah I set the threadcount to use just 3/8th of available cpus

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oversight is you can't change it either, oops

ashen cliff
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So on a quad core without HT...

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Very epic.

twin lagoon
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dataconverter wen

static badge
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dataconverter is in testing

twin lagoon
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@ashen cliff Bro.

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Throw it on prod.

static badge
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oh boy

ashen cliff
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Done.

vestal jasper
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"I push to prod."

twin lagoon
ashen cliff
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That's just ver/1.17 with extra steps. kekwhyper

twin lagoon
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Exactly bro.

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Push to prod

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PepeLa oh no

vestal jasper
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let's fucking goooo

twin lagoon
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josh pepelove

static badge
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it'll I/O limit your ass if you're on an HDD

vestal jasper
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michael pepeLove

ashen cliff
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Bro! NVME ONLY!

vestal jasper
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michael i'm gonna be so tired today lmao

twin lagoon
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Bro. Intel Optane & IDE HDD

ashen cliff
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Just throw the whole world into memory.

twin lagoon
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it would I/O limit you on NVME if you could max the threads out

vestal jasper
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i'm staying up to fix my sleep schedule

twin lagoon
ashen cliff
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Would it at least I/O limit my quad channel memory?

static badge
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no lol

ashen cliff
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Sad.

twin lagoon
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Bro.

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RAM disk

ashen cliff
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Was almost ready to pull out the big machine for this.

static badge
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it's limited on decompression/compression and I/O

ashen cliff
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Since I will have to convert this entire archive to 1.17 at some point.

static badge
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dataconverter is actually just 1% of the upgrade process on 1.16->1.17 worlds

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rest is fucking read/write

ashen cliff
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DataCoverterAsAService when?

static badge
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next two seconds

ashen cliff
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Just give me zstd compression and I'll run dataconverter in prod. kekwhyper

twin lagoon
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zstd Pog

ashen cliff
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Look, the worlds currently are like 150GB. Not fun.

twin lagoon
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Bro.

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ZFS deduplication & transparent compression

ashen cliff
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And there is another single one that's like 200GB... Thanks anarchy and the portal corner glitch.

twin lagoon
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those numbers are nothing compared to skyblock

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i had to mangle my raid 1 setup already for more space

ashen cliff
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Raid 1.

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Bro.

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Kinda cringe.

twin lagoon
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also no backups

ashen cliff
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So just my He(a)tzner machine in a nutshell.

twin lagoon
mental meadow
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Hetner

ashen cliff
twin lagoon
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aurora pepelove

mental meadow
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Hetner = slav hetzner

twin lagoon
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no that's KGBHosting

ashen cliff
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There we go.

static badge
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locally on my machine dataconverter can pull 1000 per thread

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about 9k if I push it to 10 cores

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1000 per second

mental meadow
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oh no

tropic flame
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yay I got the stage discovery button on mobile .-.

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and apparently they moved the mentions to the search button

potent warren
ashen cliff
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INB4 I just rent a 128 core system for 1 day. kekwhyper

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But again, without zstd that's just a waste, since I would have to do it again.

static badge
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i mean you'd probably run into bottlenecks on the I/O

ashen cliff
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1TB of ram bro.

static badge
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ramdisk?

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jesus

ashen cliff
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Yeah.

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Why not?

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christ

ashen cliff
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It's a 200GB world, there is plenty left.

static badge
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yeah i guess

tropic flame
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well... I guess that's a way to do things

modern steppe
tropic flame
ashen cliff
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Start again.

modern steppe
ashen cliff
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When you have that much power, for such a small workload, you just don't care if anything goes wrong.

static badge
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if it scales to like 100x it'll probably pull your world in a few minutes

ashen cliff
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I would legit spend more time transferring the world to the machine and then back off.

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PepeLa yeah

potent warren
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What's the best channel to ask for anything Paperweight?

static badge
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I'm going to sleep here lmk if anything goes wrong

wispy blade
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i;d assume

potent warren
ashen cliff
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I have to give it to Noctua, shipping a 4040 mm fan in a 140140 mm box.

wispy blade
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GG

ashen cliff
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Even added crimping connectors for splicing. Bruh.

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Worth the 15€. kekwhyper

wispy blade
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noctua goated company bro.

twin lagoon
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noctua Pog

ashen cliff
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OmniJoin adapter.

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Time to take my router apart... again.

manic hill
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😩 why

ashen cliff
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Yeah, we need more offline mode servers. kekwhyper

mental meadow
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you would think that at some point I should be able to strip a cable without completely cutting it at one day
until then I guess I have to buy an extra meter just so I can fail 20 times

untold meadow
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the worst is with plugs

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because then you have to cut and strip the other wires

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repeat ad infinitum

novel horizon
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until you're left with 10cm of cable

mental meadow
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good thing I bought like 3m

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and only need like 1.5

novel horizon
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woah, well, at least you have the space for erorrs lol

tropic flame
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runs

heady spear
limber knotBOT
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shut up city

viral hornet
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You heard it here first

heady spear
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Love u Proxi

minor badge
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get in line smh

wispy blade
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for what

viral hornet
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for loving Mariell

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what else ???

wispy blade
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aight

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gets in line

heady spear
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I go first in line because I’m the best

wispy blade
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no

heady spear
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However I would also like to be in a throuple with Camm and Larry

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Tough :/

viral hornet
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😳

vestal jasper
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😔

heady spear
#

Josh what r u doing

vestal jasper
#

listening to music why

wispy blade
#

josh is joshing

heady spear
#

I expect 10 MRs when I leave this bus

vestal jasper
#

oof uhhhh

heady spear
#

limber knotBOT
#

First in line is already claimed, City

wispy blade
#

by whom

nimble depot
#

Wait there is a IRC bridge?

wispy blade
#

yes

heady spear
#

Proxi is obviously talking about Jesus

#

🙏

wispy blade
#

there's a new psu waiting for me at home so yay linux install

nimble depot
#

I got RockyLinux to play with

#

you got a Matrix room?

manic hill
nimble depot
#

It's only like 20$

manic hill
wispy blade
#

imagine being able to affor to run a server but not afford the game

manic hill
#

Imagine

tropic flame
#

i used to run the server in the same computer I'd play

#

nowadays i got an account... and still do the same kekwhyper

manic hill
#

arent those screenshots from this server

#

because the colors feel familiar

wispy blade
#

admincraft

manic hill
#

oh

wispy blade
#

i think

#

otherwise syscraft

manic hill
#

syscraft you mean?

#

i guess so

#

def it

rigid solar
#

what is a good economy plugin to have excluding essx?

#

i do not want to use that function from essentialsx

wispy blade
#

vault

rigid solar
#

Hmm

#

i do have that in but IDK about that feature all IK it does is link an economy plugin with other plugins

worldly flare
#

When adding a domain to my server I get the problem "cant resolve hostname", does anyone know why?

rigid solar
#

so did you make sure forcehost has the domain you are connecting to?

#

is you dns record setup with the ip on an a record and a srv record to the port of your a record?

worldly flare
#

I tell you what I do, I create an "A RECORD" I put my public ip in it and when I put the domain in minecraft it loads the image from the server, but it appears "cant resolve hostname"

#

D:!!

tropic flame
#

compiling stuff off of github for windows be like
"minimum requirements: visual studio 3048 (6TB installation)"

#

well thanks i guess i just won't compile your garbage then

worldly flare
#

In theory I should not use "srv", since I host my server on my computer and I have port 25565

rigid solar
#

meaning

A: Domain name: host Target: 0.0.0.0 <change this to machine ip>
srv: Domain name: host service: _minecraft protocol: TCP priority: 0 wight: 0 port:25565 target: host.mydomain.com```
#

you want to have the domain know what services it is

#

thus you use SRV record

#

and if you are hosting from your own computer you want to also make sure that that port is forwarded other wise you wont be able to play from another network

worldly flare
#

What happens is that when putting the SRV load, but not always, it is like it is not stable and not all users work

wispy blade
worn ember
worldly flare
#

I had read that if you have port 25565 you did not need the srv and I see in the tutorials how it works for everyone instantly with the "A record" but not for me D :!​

worn ember
#

you dont need an srv record cuz 25565 is the default port, so mc will automatically try to connect to that port on the domain

worldly flare
#

I want to get to that very thing

rigid solar
#

but sometimes it does not work but did you double check if you do the ip of the server you are connecting to loads?

worldly flare
#

But even if I put the "A record" it doesn't work, it only loads the image

rigid solar
#

is that your 0.0.0.0

worn ember
#

is it in your own network?

rigid solar
#

not domain ip

worn ember
#

you cant connect to your external ip through your own network

#

use the local ip

worldly flare
worldly flare
worn ember
#

show the hostname

worldly flare
#

I mean, I can connect with my public ip, but when I put the domini it doesn't work

worn ember
#

and also your A record

rigid solar
#

is that on your public ip ^^

wispy blade
#

.wa 8^4

limber knotBOT
#

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wispy blade
#

i see

rigid solar
#

me now confused on why me damn nuvotifier not wanting to work with me CWS_SobCry

worldly flare
rigid solar
#

you are using cloudflare right

worldly flare
#

yes

worn ember
#

do you own the domain?

#

well i assume so, but just making sure

rigid solar
worldly flare
rigid solar
#

this is how it should look like

worldly flare
#

do I have to put a subdomain?

worn ember
#

just the subdomain, nothing else

rigid solar
#

so if you take it @ will automatically do domain.com

#

so for a test use play or hub and the ip in content and see if it picks it up

#

but you gotta go define the hub.doamin.com in your proxy config

worn ember
#

when did you set up cloudflare? could be that your nameservers havent propagated yet

rigid solar
#

it takes 2 - 48hr

#

to update

#

for me usually 2 hours

worldly flare
rigid solar
#

IDK just a test

#

it might be cause @ is conflicting with other ip if you have more than one @ a records

wind geyser
worldly flare
rigid solar
#

did you define it in your config.yml file under force host for the bungee?

#

like this

#

if you are running it through a bungee server

worldly flare
#

I don't use bungeecord

rigid solar
#

ok then go to spigot.yml and make sure Ip forwarding is true

worldly flare
#

O.o ok

rigid solar
#

did it work

worldly flare
#

I don't have that option, is it normal?

#

Or i'm literally blind

rigid solar
#

lol

#

look at the beautiful night sky

nimble depot
#

filezilla

rigid solar
#

ya i am in the files of my server

#

what wrong with filezila

#

i like tha application

worldly flare
rigid solar
#

Did you change ip forwarfing true and restarted server?

worldly flare
#

I don't have that option in my spigot yml

rigid solar
#

can you send me the file?

#

let me see

#

there is no ip in it so you safe

nimble depot
#

SecureCRT nicely goes along with it

rigid solar
#

nah that shit client

#

i hate that thing

worldly flare
worldly flare
rigid solar
#

this looks like bukkit.yml

#

nvm

#

oh damn

#

mine also don't have that

#

wtf

worldly flare
#

LOL

rigid solar
#

i might have confused myself with modded mc's sponge forge

#

what happens when you run ping domain.com in cmd?

worldly flare
#

Everything normal, I already tried it several times

rigid solar
#

so if it brings up your ip when you do that then the a record works

#

so meaning somewhere something is blocking access t your mc server?

#

go through firewall

#

might be that that is blocking you

#

but then

#

you shouldn't be able to connect via the public decimal ip

worldly flare
#

From the first things I tried, i disable the firewall

#

I even tried connecting to another network and connecting the domain to it

rigid solar
#

does the other network pickup the numerical ip

#

that also the question

worldly flare
#

yes

rigid solar
#

cause if it does pick up the server via that ip it should have worked

nimble depot
rigid solar
limber knotBOT
#

I just use MobaXTerm 👀

rigid solar
#

so i am staying with it

worldly flare
limber knotBOT
#

Filezilla has some encoding issues now and then

#

how long did you wait after setting up your records, Dheam?

rigid solar
#

nah i can't think why it would do that then

sturdy sphinx
limber knotBOT
#

no?

#

why would I care about the transfer speed of at most 1MB big files?

sturdy sphinx
#

Strange, with FileZilla i can accomplish easy 1GB up/down with MoboXTerm not even close

#

Oh i did a test 10gb file and yeah...

worldly flare
novel horizon
#

I use WinSCP 👀

limber knotBOT
#

the records might not have propagated yet

#

Ned: Why would you transfer such large files? Oo

novel horizon
#

mobaxterm looks kinda nice tho

#

I sometimes transfer some tar.gz files from/to my server, instead of folders, like backup of some worlds and some files have like 60+ GB

rigid solar
#

i do cause my modded world are 40gig+

sturdy sphinx
rigid solar
#

and i do not want to wait days

limber knotBOT
#

the only reason I ever had to transfer large files was to download a heap dump lol

worldly flare
limber knotBOT
#

wow guys, please get a proper backup setup lmao

novel horizon
#

There's another backup, but sometimes I need to work on the world and mess with region files

limber knotBOT
#

I just rsync my stuff directly between servers

rigid solar
#

me and my dev and owner are looking into doing it soon

worldly flare
#

Thanks all the same for the help!

limber knotBOT
#

Dheam: Just make sure your records are actually setup correctly, lol

limpid comet
#

This is an innovation in technology

limber knotBOT
#

also as a general tip in the future: avoid actually resolving the domain until some time has passed like 30 minutes or so depending on your nameserver.

limpid comet
#

this is the culmination of humanity's achievements

limber knotBOT
#

dns queries get cached after the first time and might take a bit to update

worldly flare
novel horizon
#

is that sarcasm or what 👀 bluely

limber knotBOT
#

pretty sure that depends on your nameserver provider though, some can push updates out a lot faster

novel horizon
#

I thought they're saving the changes for years already

limpid comet
#

it has literally never saved for me once in my life

#

everytime i accidentally close the tab or forget about a half-progressed through form it's gone

novel horizon
#

weird 🤔

worn ember
#

u just dum

limber knotBOT
#

using google forms smh

limpid comet
#

my schooling demands it

#

if im lucky i get to submit my own pdf

limber knotBOT
#

could just tekk them no?

#

*tell

#

do they at least provide your with internet and a google-forms capable device for free? 👀

novel horizon
limpid comet
#

they hand out chromebooks but you can't exactly go into the school to use their internet right now

limber knotBOT
#

at least that's something I guess

limpid comet
#

its ok

limber knotBOT
#

not sure why they want to give the data of all their students to google though, but I guess they get paid by them lmao

limpid comet
#

i don't think they really care about accessibility

#

you need internet and javascript enabled to even view anything in the portal

#

well the internet part makes sense

daring stirrup
#

any admin mod

#

i have a question

#

my server runs paper 1.17

#

my friends play on it but it kicks me and my friends from server saying java eception

twin lagoon
#

java exception does not mean anything

#

you don't need an admin or mod in this server either for a question

#

you should also use the right support channels, #paper-help

void void
#

@phoenix616#0000 why dont u chat by discord itself

twin lagoon
#

irc bridge

mental meadow
#

they did not ask how, they asked why

tropic flame
#

because boomer

limber knotBOT
#

because discord sucks ¯_(ツ)_/¯

wispy blade
#

yes

heady spear
#

DiScorD suCkS

limber knotBOT
#

Silly IRC users . . .

sturdy sphinx
#

lmao

limber knotBOT
#

stinky irc users

warm anchor
#

smh my head

mental meadow
#

stinky city

limber knotBOT
#

yeah I could smell city up here immediately

#

Aurora don’t make me fart

#

Because I will

mental meadow
#

I know

limber knotBOT
#

Kenny, I am still madly in love with you. When will you reciprocate?

mental meadow
#

but kneny loves Taiga-chan

limber knotBOT
#

I have always been reciprocating, you just haven't noticed

#

UWU??

twin lagoon
#

how's the UK city

untold copper
#

city r u ok

limber knotBOT
#

Am not in the UK until tomorrow :( At Arlanda airport rn

worn ember
#

imagine deliberately wanting to go to the UK

void void
#

is there a stable release og paper 1.17 out now?

lament patio
#

Nope

mental meadow
nimble depot
#

Powerline communication is probably one of the best things humanity has invented

limber knotBOT
#

smh discord users

nimble depot
#

I can sit in a dead zone where I don't have WiFi coverage and get internet via a cable

warm anchor
merry talon
#

Wtf linode just threatened to send me to collections kekwhyper

cosmic raft
#

tf did you do

#

@merry talon

modest trellis
#

who understands nocheatplus please write to me in HP, I have been unable to solve the problem with half-blocks for 2 days

#

please

merry talon
cosmic raft
#

lmao

mental meadow
#

they will go bankrupt because of you

left swift
#

Linode is a small indie company how dare you withhold that much money

meager tusk
merry talon
#

I paid it

#

crisis averted

meager tusk
#

For now.

merry talon
#

Until I forget to delete another server

left swift
#

But what about the families you affected in those 60 days you didnt pay

#

Forever changed

merry talon
#

I have no remorse for free will is a myth

meager tusk
green tartan
#

@mighty storm i know u from mcprohosting

mighty storm
#

huh

#

ve not been there since septembr

mental meadow
#

@mighty storm i know u from papermc discord cutie cat

mighty storm
#

rory fanclub is my home

#

:3

mild rune
#

I know you from at least 1 server :)

twin lagoon
#

Idriz!

#

Bro!

meager tusk
#

Bro!

twin lagoon
eternal acorn
#

who's chew

mighty storm
#

all the rory fanclub members joinin]

limber knotBOT
#

That would be me I am chew

mighty storm
#

oh god not you

eternal acorn
#

never heard of you

mild rune
#

I'm actually chew

eternal acorn
#

oh god not you

mild rune
#

wow

mighty storm
void void
wispy blade
#

funny how i spent about 2 hrs configuring ssh

vernal moth
#

Fucking yes

#

GitHub is finally getting custom issue fields

wispy blade
#

:o

vernal moth
meager tusk
ancient bolt
#

Custom fields is cool

green tartan
potent fossil
#

Chew was mcph staff? squadlaughing

mighty storm
#

discord mod ye

#

but like, for 4 months lol

#

dipped outta there when they fired the dev who built the entire panel

mental meadow
#

Github is great. When you want to change your sponsors country it tells you to change that in your Stripe account. In your stripe account you can't change that. Stripe support says you gotta ask Github support for that. Github support tells you to make a new stripe account and connect that to your sponsors. And now Github want's me to fill out a W-9 form which I can't fill out because I'm not a US citizen

vernal moth
#

Well, payment across country border is complicated

mental meadow
#

Just gimme my w8ben form and I'll be happy

ashen cliff
#

Paypal. kekwhyper
Just pay the extra free and 🛌.

potent fossil
#

tbf yea, however they shouldnt tell you to do a W-9 in either case, that was probably just a fuck up

mental meadow
#

probably they just don't know austria exists

potent fossil
#

they are assumin nationalities

mental meadow
#

"Wait what the fuck is Österreich what is that letter"

#

"Hello Aurora could you specify where you are from? �sterreich is not a valid country"

potent fossil
mighty storm
#

set up a business in america

#

ez

#

call it cutiepie co

mental meadow
#

ewww

mighty storm
#

then you dont need to pay taxes cus what are they gonna do, arrest you? they cant, you dont live there

#

i mean, i dont pay taxes and they havent arrested me so maybe then youd be fine

mental meadow
#

not like I pay taxes anyway

mild rune
#

tax evasion EZ

ashen cliff
mighty storm
#

but what are the cons

ashen cliff
#

To be fair, tax evasion is a basic human need.

potent fossil
#

Number 3 is Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

#

Nevermind.

#

Number 4.

willow delta
#

i cant set a seed in server properties anymore??

mental meadow
#

don't need to evade taxes if you just don't earn enough money to pay any think_smart

mild rune
willow delta
mental meadow
#

Austria has this nice catch-all when you earn less then 11k a year you just don't have to do anything

willow delta
unkempt drift
#

no, you can just add it yourself

#

level-seed=whatever

willow delta
#

oh phew

#

thank you

potent fossil
#

<12K i believe and you don't pay anything, though you still have to file at least

mighty storm
#

yeah most of the time you get money back

willow delta
#

for income tax yes

solid siren
#

anyone knows a good server hosting?

mighty storm
#

federal widtholding* yeah

potent fossil
#

we were talking about income tax

#

i thought... anyway lol

potent fossil
hollow monolith
potent fossil
#

and theres another one i dont remember

mighty storm
#

uhh self host is best

potent fossil
#

this person clearly aint on that level and wants shared so can we just idk not confuse them and tell them what they asked for :^)

mighty storm
#

thats fair

solid siren
potent fossil
green tartan
ripe sphinx
#

I thought dmc had aisa?

#

oh no nvm just NA and EU

mighty storm
#

EUrasia

potent fossil
#

extravm has singapore; you'll be hard pressed finding a decent shared host in like philippines or something. Not sure where you're at :p but even a strong EU server from dedicatedmc or something will have decent latency to asia

solid siren
#

i see im from ph

#

philippines

#

ill try

potent fossil
#

singapore is pretty close latency wise

solid siren
#

i see i see

#

ill try

potent fossil
#

so you can consider that

solid siren
#

thank youu

hollow monolith
#

sad when your hub crashes and you are the only one online

ashen cliff
warm anchor
potent fossil
#

👀

solid siren
#

is 5gb enough for a smp with 20-30 players?

potent fossil
#

ram? probably not

frigid aspen
#

Does anyone have a guide on how to make automatic backups?

upbeat falconBOT
warm anchor
#

There I googled for you. Next time use google yourself @frigid aspen

#

How’s simple today riepeek @potent fossil

potent fossil
#

I hef headache

ancient bolt
magic river
warm anchor
potent fossil
#

yeah that'll work

warm anchor
twin lagoon
#

what's going on here

warm anchor
twin lagoon
potent fossil
#

got my coffee

#

was getting ready to go to close when my prof emailed us that he was climbing down his ladder from his painting he was making and he fell off and twisted his ankle and is going to the emergency room

#

poor guy lmao

#

go to class*

mossy cliff
#

Any ETA on first stable build?

potent fossil
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
twin lagoon
#

atleast 4

potent fossil
#

i say 5

meager tusk
#

I say 0.

#

Already stable bro.

#

Try it.

#

I dare you.

cunning raft
#

Don't meme like that

mossy cliff
#

But i need eta of eta

potent fossil
magic river
#

No one knows

#

There are builds, they mostly work, there are a few known bugs, no one knows of any that will eat your world though afaik

#

No one knows when it'll be stable, even vanilla isn't stable

ashen cliff
#

Oh. No.

#

So it's the same as the unlisted videos Youtube change.

fading surge
#

hello

#

where can i download paper 1.16.1

twin lagoon
#

why .1

fading surge
#

for tapL plugins

twin lagoon
#

and have you tried those on 1.16.5 yet?

fading surge
#

yea its working weird

#

not ow it should be

#

it should make explosion 20-20 but it expliode just like normal tnt

clever pollen
#

Hi! How do you feel about furry?

viscid oriole
#

does anyone know if a plugin works in 1.16 will it work in 1.17

#

its just a /home plugin

#

so nothing really important changed in 1.17

sinful root
#

sometimes yes

#

but sometimes no

#

it will say: initializing material legacy support ! unless you have legacy plugins

#

and cause a huge lag spike

tranquil yacht
#

guys I haven’t opened 1.17 yet, but ik they split the update into two, but is it still possible to build below y=0?

viscid oriole
#

no

#

not yet

tranquil yacht
#

You have to use that datapack for that to be possible right?

viscid oriole
#

yes

sinful root
#

yes but its still expirimental

tranquil yacht
#

maybe paper could add it as an option just like server.properties has a world height limit

viscid oriole
#

normal 1.17 is a big letdown

#

only the copper and 2 mobs got added

#

plus some blocks

#

thats it

tranquil yacht
#

mojang takes forever to add shit

viscid oriole
#

yep

#

they could have a massive team

#

they probably do lol

tranquil yacht
#

Do they not?

viscid oriole
#

but anyways

sinful root
tranquil yacht
#

Indie devs for mods do more in a shorter period of time

viscid oriole
#

true

tranquil yacht
#

ughhh its probably because they focus on bedrock

viscid oriole
#

fuck bedrock

clever pollen
#

Ignore...

tranquil yacht
#

Unignore…

sinful root
clever pollen
#

Vinny, how do you feel about furry?

tranquil yacht
#

well

sinful root
#

its the most broken version of mc

tranquil yacht
#

kinda gross

clever pollen
ashen cliff
#

Can't have a modding community with a modding API.

sinful root
viscid oriole
#

there is one thing bedrock does much better tho

tranquil yacht
viscid oriole
#

and that is performance

sinful root
viscid oriole
#

because its not on java and it on c++ I think

sinful root
#

thats why

tranquil yacht
novel zephyr
#

you can do a lot of things using datapacks tho

sinful root
#

c++ is just better with a few things

sinful root
novel zephyr
#

c++ does not have garbage like gc

viscid oriole
#

java is dogshit without mods compared to bedrock with fps

#

1 tnt whole mc lags for 0.5s

#

bedrock you can have 100 tnt and have stable fps all the time

novel zephyr
#

and multithreading could be implemented in pretty much any language

viscid oriole
ashen cliff
#

You can't multi thread something, you don't have full control over. kekwhyper

sinful root
clever pollen
novel zephyr
#

well almost all people who tried to multithread minecraft failed so far, it would require substantial changes, it is not easy as "lets multithread zombies"

sinful root
clever pollen
novel zephyr
#

it can be done, but in this state the performance wouldn't be better as the threads would have to wait for each other

#

i think airplane does this with a few mobs, but not all, and it occasionally creates a lag spike

mental meadow
#

ah I come back and people are discussing furry art, perfect

broken rampart
broken rampart
mental meadow
#

exactly!

sinful root
mental meadow
clever pollen
sinful root
mental meadow
#

:3

tranquil yacht
#

This dude’s baiting

mental meadow
#

I have cat ears, is that enough of an answer

meager tusk
#

Proof?

novel zephyr
clever pollen
broken rampart
#

a private build that I didn't end releasing had multithreaded entities, then i realized i could just optimize them without threading and went with that

#

but that was over 6 months ago

ashen cliff
broken rampart
#

huh?

sinful root
#

yes

ashen cliff
#

Good. No need to know about it then.

broken rampart
#

it can be a solution to performance, but for the mc server it's both hard to maintain and have work with the existing apis (fabric/bukkit)

clever pollen
#

Here they discuss something other than Paper?

broken rampart
#

furries i guess

clever pollen
ashen cliff
#

There is only 1 correct answer to that question.

mental meadow
#

@static badge important question please answer

broken rampart
#

😳

static badge
#

wat

brave radish
meager tusk
sinful root
ashen cliff
#

The allowed one. kekwhyper

tropic flame
#

KGBPaper

ashen cliff
#

Bro.

#

Yes.

mental meadow
#

you asked

meager tusk
#

Disappointed. You said you had cat ears.

void void
#

Face reveal

meager tusk
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Those are not cat ears. They're FAKE cat ears.

mental meadow
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face reveal

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my face is in my avatar

void void
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Oh

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Nice

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you need to start dieting (jking dont kill me )

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Pls dont kill me pls

wind geyser
twin lagoon
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@minor badge

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mari epic?

meager tusk
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Yes. Mari epic. Unlike you.

twin lagoon
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wtf

wind geyser
minor badge
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hawwo

meager tusk
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hacked

void void
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I have some server which need to be terminated

mental meadow
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i will terminate you

wind geyser
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Terminate me first

void void