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I apologize Kneny

hi
thank you idriz


Kneny sounds like a drunk version of me
more like you sound like the not drunk version of me 
Would anyone be willing to help me with a big issue i'm having?
it's not paper related
.help
looks drunk
.help
My server seems to be randomly kicking everyone on random events, When someone executes a command, when someone joins/leaves etc
It's quite weird.
It's been happening since yesterday
there's the log
I've removed all plugins on a test server right now, and i'm readding them in a second
how to know stable paper build
you dont
oki
but if you're looking for 1 17, check the downloads page
@pulsar tide Try to restart the server, if you still have that problem maybe you have inserted some incompatible plugin or your version is obsolete, I can only give you advice unfortunately
You test on your test server
well then idk, try to reinstall papermc ?
if it breaks in testing, ur lucky, if it doesnt break in testing and it does in production, just reee at mini for being bad



server is dieing 
ok
i mean your players are being kicked with nullpointerexceptions, so this definitely smells like some stupid ass plugin
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(DiscordBot) xkcd: Hyphen (1 January 2006)
seems to not be occuring when only 1 player is online.
Thanks! 🙂 I work hard on my code contributions.
lol




@pseudo shadow Paper's got semi-stable builds out now (https://papermc.io/downloads), but be aware there are still bugs, take backups before updating
paper and stable in the same sentence 
thanks trig, very cool
go 3d print your house
Have you noticed it's faster to eat kelp in 1.17??
who tf eats kelp
me when i have nothing else
i didnt even know you could eat it
it has to be dried kelp
can't say i've tried it
idk
i believe it's weed
Hey, since I updated to the latest version 3.0.8 using TAB on a bungee server, each time a player crashes it make everyone else crash on the server. It was already their in a previous update until a patch of the eglow addons for bungee do you have an update for it?
Until then I removed Eglow from my server
other people are saying it
i found it :yay:
its pretty good, we had someone from the Philippines on our class in gradeschool and she brought seaweed as a snack for her birthday
tasted salty (no shit)
let's go
is there a command to download latest paper version or do i need to manually install the jar?
I mean they remapped the entire jar to Mojang mappings somehow
intern (nl) = internal (en)
just download it and replace it I think
no command I reckon
oh i see
unless you didn't install it manually
to be honest how would you even do that when doing so probably causes upstream hell with Spigot
lul
i think they use spigot mappings at runtime
For anyone running both Eglow and tab, please do not update to latest.
Will break everything
wait for eglow to fix
wouldn't that sort of defeat the whole point in using the Mojang mappings
i dont know what eglow is
no the mojang mappings are for development only
oh wait it's reobfuscated back to Spigot's mappings on compile time?
yes :>
ah
well the only question I have is how the f*ck the Paper team haven't gone insane yet
cat has shit on my rug twice today
Thanks for sharing Naomi
I write like 1 plugin and get clinical depression when a NullPointer comes up
can't imagine what the dev team goes through
I get happy when it's only a null pointer lol
just catch(e) { getlogger().info("oopsie!") }
This is no fun
Hiii
You have to pull your hair out until you remember Java eats exceptions in some cases
i pull my hair out at java all the time bro
wdym eat exception
I do that with any dynamic language tbh
Exception is silently thrown and you don't see shit
hate it when that happens
What if paper and spigot offically merged themselves
hi Idriz
hi Cubxity
cubxity my beloved


idriz! bro!
Michael 
BRO!

How's LG bro?!
Never heard of this before nor has it happened to me and I'm grateful lol
what if paper and tuinity merged
How did you got a role?
anyone has recommended free vpn?
It should happen
No idea bro.
?
being epic
be broccolai
please correct me if I'm wrong, but... basically md_5 made this fuckery with mojang mappings so that you cannot use NMS at all, right? because you won't know what the fuck anything is named like on runtime
i meant to say what if
can confirm michale very eppic
How can i get it
it's not just a matter of discouraging
does anyone here know what gtk theme/icon theme denwav is using? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/806461073199988737/856212236167413760/unknown.png
papyrus?
it's just shitting on everyone
that would be a massive problem with reflection yeah
was about to say papyrus lol
but then again try not to use reflection
they could just copy paste the tuinity patches into Paper lol
add more API? nah
make the lives of everyone who has to use NMS because there's no other way harder? oh yes
- spigot "team"
don't you mean spigot person
hence the quotes
now what dock could that be
dash to dock
are you just trying to clone
SpigotMan
?
KGB*
lmfao
why don't you improve the api
KGBKDE.
i don't see what's confusing in what i just said, based on what I was talking about
stop fucking complaining if you're not gonna do anything to fix it
I'm confused is that rant cause Spigot refused to use Mojang mappings or cause they didn't update the Bukkit API
tbh the classnames and package structure of nms is fine if you really wanted to keep it
KGBXFCE when bro?
*noise intensifies*
it's the method names and variable names that are horrendous
Never
why bro?
wow guys i found a floating sand
because KGB is it's own DE
gnome without dash to dock is unusable ngl
debatable
Fact bro.
mmmyes, PR stuff to a one man team who has been seen dozens of times being hostile, but hey I don't have the right to complain about a measure they took that I find wrong huh
though how do i make the dock detached
Shit! I got killed by a skeleton
ok clifo
Cool story
How can I preload chunks for my server?
use chunky/worldborder
He will always welcome new API
do you have a link?
dont preload chunks
and is it up already for 1.17?
well, okay then
I still think his measure is wrong 
tbh why did the craftbukkit team restructure everything into NMS anyway instead of using the original source structure just without deobfuscating it if it causes so much trouble
XD
You're wrong then I'm sorry
You should always strive to use new API
Never be forward dependent on NMS
new API is always better unless the method names change xd
and classnames I guess
usually they just deprecate stuff
hey guys do you prefer to play in largeBiomes or default generation?
never said the opposite, my point is that until new API exists you'll still have to make things work somehow
both are nice to play in
Mojang only recently started providing mappings that people could use
If you need to use NMS, you should be making API requests or prs
No excuse
paperweight is neat
of course there is excuses
there is literally 0 chance any Bukkit fork will ever have an exhaustive virtual entity or world gen api
I know but the craftbukkit team did restructure the source of the original server no?
yea like being a dumb German with TV in your name
how about this: make two overworlds where one is largeBiomes and the other is default sized. And teleport using custom portals
Imagine if fawe spent their time making an async world mod api instead of excuses :(
the hell is a virtual entity
tho we don't talk about fawe here 
Ok can I talk about faw?
@minor badge iwi
no talk about pocketmine
Packages were removed during obfuscation, so no we weren't reshuffling things around package wise. We got to play the fun game of "what should we name this new class, it's really unclear what it does" sometimes too!
Wait this isn’t the glowstone support discord?
@twin lagoon iwi
@minor badge uwu
uwu
and until they are accepted I need to make things work somehow
we're back to the same point
What do we do if we want a fully mojmapped jar even at runtime?
@quasi valley OwO
stop it bax 
./gradlew shadowJar
@true canyon uwu!! best bax


Use your own fork then lol, papers forking tools are very public
❤️
Michael I’m trying to have a serious conversation here
I'm aware. I'm asking what to use in those tools lol
although doesn't the new Mojang mappings being remapped to Spigot on compile time mean NMS is effectively now unusable for Plugins
yeah michale stop being so dum
THat's one thing I realised
Haha wasn’t in response to you sorry
@broken rampart how do you feel about being the official Yatopia continuation
Oh okay
demotivated
michale shuddup
what does yatopia do

rename it to Wetopia, like a true communist
what doesn't it do
Wat.
I mean
wait now I'm getting confused
would plugins use the Mojang mappings for NMS now
We use the horrifying spigot-caused frankenstein's monster now.
different than before, and you could both argue for the better or for the worse
From my perspective, for what I do with NMS, I just had to update the packages.
even with the new 1.17 builds?
Are there newer builds that broke NMS in a new way?
no I guess not
KGBPaper 1.18 did
god this mapping stuff just killed my last braincell
Idriz bro, do you know how KGBTuinity 1.21 is doing?
if you think this is an abomination, think about the dude who decided to make a jihadist Cristiano Ronaldo montage
just got a 1452 long license key
KGBAirplane 1.22 is alright thanks for asking
1.22 outdated bro.
Already on 1.710
Michael naomi asked for legacy support
I said that it's doing fine
KGBRocket 1.82 is amazing as well
getField("a") 🤢
i got shot by a skeleton earlier and i can't find my items
sorry bro, i got banned from the KGBForums so i can't keep up
LMAOOOO
r/arabfunny bro
people using more commonly used fields have been killed tho. things like craftplayer.getHandle().playerconnection you just can't use anymore and have to scroll through obfuscated names again, unless you use md's maven plogen
funniest shit ive ever seen
It's a field that's never been mapped, so... 🤷
I should have it do a smarter finding of things but... eh! 😄
Yes
huh
seems like the plugin has to use the old package style NMS
oof
what task can i use to compile a mojang mapped jar mr kneny
Yeah that player connection thing killed a lot of projects I was touching.
😢
shadowJar
thanks
if you could do that in the first place why reobf back to Spigot xd
to keep compat with spigot plugins
reobfjar also gives you the mapped jar, next to the remapped
.
what's a spigot pepe 
It was extra work to go back to spigot names
And not just extra CPU time or whatever, a couple days of the 1.17 update were spent fixing bugs with going back to spigot names
Pepes is a slang for people

no
that'd be peeps 
Lmao
heeeey kenny
My bad
my favourite Pepe x
Wouldn't that be sulu, by default?
I can't answer that question without my lawyer
Can you stop doing full size emotes for everything you say?
Ok small sized emojis are fine for you 
Sure, because it's on the same line as actual words
If you are the developer of viaversion . I would give a salute to you for making such a great and usefull plugin

Just an emote sometimes is fine, so long as it's one we all actually know or is obvious, and an emote next to normal text helps convey tone but trying to speak via only emotes no one else knows the context for is just weird
sounds like an awful lot of work for compatibility
erm does anybody know any plugin that is not plot squared/protection stones (nothing to it I just look for new ones) and gives player ability to own home/base/bunker/space station... etc?
Do you mean Minecraft?
yes ?
is the Mojang map applied as a patch over the existing Spigot NMS source or what? Just curious
Minecraft lets you have a home/base/bunker/space station... etc
I mean
Doesn't GriefPrevention do that?
Oh
Something like skyblock?
to try
In concept, I guess
well not rl skyblock
Spigot build is run as normal (more or less, it's paperweight doing the building) then remapped to Mojang names
Yeah I'm not sure to be honest
Or wait, maybe it does source remapping of spigot patches, I forget
I don't think so though
Spigot is built as usual first, then remapped
is the source of the remapper in the Paper repo somewhere now I'm curious to see what it looks like
ah
thanks
bstats bork or something
yes
Lmao 
happens every now and then
Whats this
that's the Gradle build system plugin for Paper and Paper forks
could you theoretically edit it to make the remapped Paper names complete rubbish
lmao "F*ckYou.java"
hi
Hi nub
@quasi valley pls make addon for griefprevention . No one is interested to make that
I'm not either
?
sorta yeah
test builds
why are you using griefprevention and not griefdefender
how do u update a spigot server to paper
guys what if the minecraft world looped instead of getting to a world border
Just replace the jar file
(stop the server, backup, replace jar file, start to be more accurate)
so at +X 30,000,000 you would cross the border and it would take you to -X 30,000,000
and the world would just be circular like that
there's probably a plugin for that
yes but that uses teleporting
im saying what if minecraft had that normally
that you can just walk in one direction endlessly and eventually you'll end up at the same place again
it would still be teleporting
it says this
Hey! Do you guys know if there is an estimated date for the full release of paper 1.16?
1.17*
depends on how u mean by teleporting
.eta
(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
Thank you!
what i mean is no visible border and there is no indication you're at the end of the world
you can speed up this process by running the test builds and hunting for bugs ^^
so it would be kinda like living on a planet
or if u just type paper*.jar in your start file u dont have to edit it in the future
then it will just find the right file for u
as long as it's named paper followed by version number
then what if you put two versions in?
i dont know i havent tried
seems like an easy way for pepegas to accidentally run old versions
and that becomes paper-456.jar paper457.jar
maybe it will try to run the highest number
You should just save to paperclip.jar and let the script use that
brocc 
what is paperclip.jar
oh you mean i should save the server jar file as paperclip.jar
mhm
cuz what you said ^^
thats why i delete old jar files
and if you forget one day?
probably an error
or I guess the second one would be passed as an argument actually
ur luv and affection
what is this https://github.com/PaperMC/Paperclip
is this different from the server jar on papermc.io downloads page?
Paperclip is like a launcher. Paperclip is also what you download. It downloads Mojang's jar and patches it to be Paper, then runs it
How much ram do people think it would be to keep a steady 15-20 tps for 20-30 players with basic plugins such as luckperms, dynamaps, core protect.. Basic staff perms stuff
oh okay i see
except better
and faster
Anyone have the new guide to paper's built in anti-xray for 1.17?
soo i can use paperclip to start the server?
6 is enough, however CPU perfomance matters, the way you optimise it etc matters
That's not a question of RAM, and how much RAM you need is also dependent on too many factors
looks like it uss the highest but still pretty risky if you ask me
same guide just add the new blocks
o
I don't know all the new blocks lmao
neither do I ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I use shared host currently with 32gb and sit around 10tps
by built in do you mean it's enabled by default?
Well, you should optimize the way you run your server
No unusual errors in console
More RAM does not mean more performance
At all
Once you have enough, that is
If you mean the anti-xray thing, it's not on by default
okk nice
Not much that can go wrong with basic plugins, however I am thinking I am being messed around with on cpu as they just state unlimited
Thankyou
Is it true that Mojang has disabled TNT duplication now?
No not true
Check paper configs 😊
are all these new builds test builds
so i think i remember someone saying earlier that paper has the piston duplication as a setting because there is no other way to automate mining
.eta
(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
Same location in paper.yml
Unsupported setting or something.
yeah i know
what i mean is
do you think mojang will ever have an official way of auto mining?
can always have a slime tnt cannon
The headless piston one iirc if there is a need for it
like one of those self-moving slime mechanisms
yeah and break permanent blocks
More real!
oh you're right that does suck
tnt is too expensive
you just need to make a giant ass creeper farm and mine 4824359 stacks of sand
very annoying process
I think they will
Or at least keep TNT duping a thing
I recall they talking to someone at Paper about the TNT dupe fix saying that it was "the only way of automatic mining in a game about mining"
And they have a variable FIX_TNT_DUPE = false in their code
fairly sure they did fix it at some point, only to revert
so the fix was thrown behind a static var ig
remember that time they tried to fix iron golem farms only to make it easier
it's also worth noting they also have a fix for sand duping, which we do not provide an option for ^^
they have some var for it I believe
Thank god
does carpet duping still work
otherwise it was some other dupe, but can't remember any important ones to fix and have a disable option for
Hello #off-topic does someone knows if there is a backup repo for PaperSpigot-API for 1.8 PaperSpigot?
you know i've always liked the idea of having a claim system where you trade physical items that are used to claim chunks
that can be carried around in stacks in inventories
but i'm afraid players will figure out how to dupe them
The API jars are on the same repo. Not really sure what you mean by "backup repo" though, as there isn't really a "backup repo" even for the latest versions
I found a minecraft server that is for adults only and I'm jazzed about it lol. It's such a stark difference to what's typically available and it might actually get me to play minecraft at least a little bit again
the dependency is broken for some reason
i already told why, missing artifact. Thats why i asked for a backup repo
i think they took it down because of being too old
It's right here on the website https://papermc.io/using-the-api
The whole time
Okay nevermind 🚶♂️
yeah i need the 1.8 one
sadly i tried updating but i wasn't able to
1.7 and 1.8 are same group
so i am still on 1.8
Nexus Repository Manager
io.ancientversion:islongdead:1.8
i tried updating to 1.16 but i wasnt able to so i want to patch the little unpatched stuff and just leave it like that
Is there a way to only send commands that a user has permissions for to the client for tab-completion? I'm using MV and all the mv commands show up in tab completion even if the user doesn't have access to run them.
anyways what group id should i use?
Seems to match what you have, unless your version is wrong.
Beyond that, no clue. 1.8 do be very old and unsupported :p
yeah sorry for running 1.8 but i have no choice sadly
thats why i am asking on offtopic to not bother anyone
this is my minecraft version
Okay, I mean there's not much more we can tell you. The repo has it.
okay thanks
i will see what i can do
anyways do you know if this was patched on latest 1.16 paper? its an exploit that makes a method run itself infinitely
yeah it is
do you remember what patch number is it?
uhh it's probably hidden somewhere
alright thank you
Пизда а не пейпер
This is an English server
paper down my server crush such
Are you using a test build and reporting that it crashed your server
<@&748618676189528155> foul language
No mods
smh
Don't abuse the mod ping tag
?
can someone help me with skript?
it's just a general statement not saying anyone did 👀
Dunno since wen we care bout swearing
what's this say here
well, not really that much
i know this isn't the place to talk about skript
but it's not really abuse either
Look it in translate
?
thats not a swear lol
wait a sec
for some people it is
Im just telling the mods,if they dont care then it doesn’t matter
For some people it's a very offensive swear.
problem is you use project.version, not minecraft.version
And I mean there aren't really rules about general profanity if I recall the rules correctly
Best to just not use words like that though 🙂
esp not in a foreign language
thank you i just noticed that :o thanks!
Yes, express yourself nicely, cunt
hey dont be15 pens
My Java 1.16
whats the best host for 25~ yall lol
I tried going with dedicated mc they dont have us locations rtho
Why should I use api version 2 instead of 1? For me version 1 works perfectly fine
i tried using a ovh machine for 1.16 but with 10 players started lagging so idk
Because v1 is about to be removed
what
DedicatedMC does have Us locations lol
may be sold out atm, like bloom is
they're out of stock for premium server :(
all the kids got their summer servers from their parents, so all the hosts are restocking
But why. Don’t change/delete a working solution
idk, really
not my decision
woa dedicatedmc has nice prices, how about their antiddos?
I can link to where cat explained it though 🙂
Kyrix, I'd suggest just waiting a few more days or asking them when it's available again
but i dont think 8gb is enough for a survival server
then you are probably doing something wrong
like loading chunks
i've been waiitng a week and I told them in the discord, what's a good alternative if u know of any
#paper-help message @tall goblet start there
Because I wrote a script which asks every OP on the server if a new version of paper should be downloaded and installed if a newer version is available
🙏🏼
ovh has decent machines starting from $60
You can still do that with the new endpoint hatrez
i use rise-1
Look at SoYouStart or kimsufi, they are a OVH reseller#
Yes but I need to change it and just wonder why the working api will no longer work.
it can get down
it's for a beta test I need something cheap around 25~ and the premium server from dedimc was good but out of stock
for beta test you can try a vps then, if you dont need more than 50 players
SoYouStart uses the OVH antiddos don't they?
Yeah it's gonna be around 30~ players
nope it uses game antiddos something and its worse
Because it has been replaced for various reasons, see the announcement I linked earlier
thats why i switched to ovh
maybe that machines have outdated filters or something like that
and btw I have no system admin expereicnce maybe I should just wait for dedicatedmc 😩
i dont recommend running a panel
it is better to learn to use linux and struggle in the path
it is worth it
There is no explanation of why it’s been removed but I guess I will just change the endpoint then
So you Start servers are supported by the OVH anti-DDoS infrastructure
We like it more, there, now you got an explanation
idk but the difference i noticed is that on sys the antiddos fails to keep the server alive while on ovh it successfully mitigated attacks
i had a headache because of that
is pebblehost aight? lol
i know but it seems they have something different
bc ddos protection performs worse on sys
It's a way to get rid of their old hardware
so they use old filters on their old hardware too?
iirc they run on the same network and stuff
So I highly doubt the Anti DDOS infrastructure is different
i doubt it too, but from experience it wasnt the same
it would be weird
the sys one had +500mb more bandwidth too
I just want to drop a huge thank you here, paper is by far the best server software I've used!
Hello! We are glad you enjoy the Paper software. 😄 If any help is needed, the PaperMC community will be here for you!
i have questions
Being able to use copy/paste text into a book and not have your armor removed.
how arethose related?
hmm familiar name there mbaxter
i'm really proud of this boss i've got making, he's uh jesus i guess idk i like religious stuff in games
god that looks epic
Nice, I can finally kill Jesus in an epic boss battle?
For sure you can, if you are good at dodging his fat projectiles which are offset by minecraft's poor desyncing of entities so they jitter a bit (they are flying items)
Dw I suck at this game cause I haven't played in like 6 years 😂
All I do is hop or fly around wen testing stuff and that's it
relatable
it's pretty crazy what you can do without mods nowadays really
just a resource pack and some plugins
wait so is paper ready for server use? for 1.17 i mean
no
damm
:weewoo_red: Again, we'd like to make it very clear that these are not production-ready builds. They are for testing purposes only, and we are not responsible if you damage your server by updating. Backup your world before doing anything. :weewoo_red:
weewoo_red
😔
They are good enough to test your server tho and if it goes well, then you might be able to risk it
ok buy me nitro and then complain :P
Oh, I forgot Discord doesn't let you use animated without nitro.

Does anyone know if in plugin.yml and velocity-plugin.json you need to follow semver for the version or is it arbitrary?
I assume it's arbitrary?
For plugin.yaml you can pretty much do whatever you want
assuming you're talking about Bukkit's, ^
Yes.
Hmm.
Wonder what's the best way to compare 2 version and figure if they are newer/older.
Or anything else in the jar, I guess.
Reliably, you can't
Buy splitting on dot and sorting by alpha numeric seems good enough
Depending on your usecase
Wait, doesn't zip timestamp files?
I could potentially compare the dates of plugin.yml between 2 jars.
Not all jars are valid zips though
My use case - I have one script, which based on plugin definition checks for plugin updates and downloads latest version of all of them. Which I then upload somewhere.
I want to add a file to each of my server configs, containing just the name of plugin and version, which should be downloaded from my backend.
And wanted a way to reliably compare whether plugin is in the same version (easy - compare versions from plugin.yaml or maybe sha1), but also not download older version if newer is present, as well as obviously download newer plugin, if available.
I'm probably overengineering it, since all my servers run latest and could just keep only latest version of the file.
But where's the fun in that.
And in case I'll need to use an older version for some reason...
cuz it's 2021
does it matter if it is or not?

Anyone have a clue when paper 1.17 with be out on mcprohosting ?
@mighty storm
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Lol, at least they're upfront about the recommended slots
is the paper stable already? is it possible to put on a server without problems with the world?
Read #announcements
not production ready yet, but recommend doing your own testing not on your main server
Will the developers say when the kernel will be stable and it will be possible to install it on your server?
okey
1700 server owner apparent dotn care according to bstat 
Many spawners in an area can lower the tps, right?
You don't understand. These are 1700 tests servers where they are trying to find paper bugs and report them!
such nice people ||/s||
need more people like that ||not /s||
Does someone know a plugin that makes it so that commands executed from command blocks assume the minecraft: prefix if none is specified?
Like let's say I install Essentials, which overrides the /tp command. Now all command blocks will use the Essentials command unless I specifically specify /minecraft:tp. Looking for a plugin that changes that behavior for command blocks only
(Looking for a plugin because there are waay too many command blocks in this map to change by hand)
(also please ping me or use the answer feature, when answering)
Not gonna offer it until it's production ready, see #715393203095994380 message
my server host automatically backs up my server every 6 hours so if unstable paper messes everything up it wont be that big of a loss
hourly backups ftw
its amazing
I backup all my servers to git every 15m yall, just git revert any corruption
commands.yml in the root of your server. You can enable something about commandblocks. open it and see
I just tell my player base that there are important plugins that are not working properly yet. And that the alternative to waiting with the update would be data/progress loss and lost functionality, which happens to be very effective
i made a manual backup when switching from spigot to paper
Including world saves?
Lemme check. Thanks!
Just don't. Use a regular backup program. I'm super happy with borg.
almost 3 GB each
Which you can configure to make one every 15 minutes. Size wise that doesn't make too much of a difference
239 GB oops
Backup every 15min wtf
Oh
wrong word?
Hahahaha
pls say sike
yeah i agree this works really well lol
but also my players are kinda not really caring because most of them want the 1.18 features and not the 1.17
Ive been running a 1.17 test server for my players for like 1.5 weeks
or at least, are not as enthusiastic about 1.17 in general
They seem to love that /shrug
let's just delete Paper 1.17 anyway or keep it only for testing to make 1.18 easier
yes
The last 24 hours ive been running 20 players on the test server playing with just a few plugins and no problems yet
Pretty lit
If you have compressed and deduplicated backups, that's actually not a problem at all!
poggerific?
Threw on ViaVersion in addition, so people are happy ^^
99% of the time theyre complaining aout not being able to join on the latest version not that the server isnt on the altst bverson especially sine 1.17 doesnt have nthta many feates people want
oops, spelling go br
same lol
via is easy, no reason not to really
Yeah
esp when there arent too many changes between versions
1.17 <-> 1.18 will be more interesting
Except for when other plugins are fuckin with protocollib
Might even use ViaBackwards to allow 1.16 clients for a little longer after updating. At least in my lobbies
using protocollib lol
i avoid it, direct packet use breaks so often
basically same as nms
what in packet manipulation
Works great for me
🤠
Hello, do you know when pepermc1.17 will be out?
it already is
Peper
paper?
yes
can u send it to me pls
reverse eta
no
no
please attempt to put just 1% effort
Michael i am surprised the amount of restraint you've just displayed
i can but i mean
imma keep it real with u chief! u gotta learn how to do it yourself
ya pues ya
im tempted to say the only two spanish words i know but its not appropriate
dime
si, mi nombre es olivia, no hablo espanol muy bien, guten tag!
aba guten tag ist deutsch
richtig
fertig
Eres español?

que si soy?

Question. About to start a 1.17 server whenever paper comes out but I’m running 32gb ddr4 on a ryzen 9 5950x and I’m expecting around 50 players. Should that be enough?
what question is that
you're literally asking if <top of the line hardware> should be able to support 50 players
I was running 10gb on 4 people
10gb ram is fine
Yes*
*If it's dedicated
cpu is more than fine
Then the answer is "depends on your host"
5
Using AMP
What's that
thats the shit google shows you when you click a news article
Lmao
someone knows a free host that works withouth lag? aternos no pls xd
none
thats a lot to ask lol
minehut is probably the best you're gonna get for a free minecraft host, dunno about the whole "no lag" though. it's free so your expectations need to be better
you get what you pay for
That what i did when i was 14 lmao
Ran a 1.5 factions server on my shit laptop until got donations then bought domain and server
Snowball
paid for domain and pc about to be the server myself B)
i mean
i used to do it just on my main pc
while playing the game
now that is going to be the server lol
just so my friend won't have to worry about it being up or paying a big chunk of money
If I want a survival what I should put?
SMP
okey thk you
Stands for survival multiplayer
Since when did sitting down dogs swim out of water D:
im assuming when 1.17 is production ready it will tell us in announcments?
yeah, whenever they drop 1.16 support is when they deem it stable
(is how they've done it in the past at least)
The previous version is dropped usually when Aikar moves his server from it.
I don't know if it'll be announced.
I know personally that I for sure won't use 1.17 and go straight to 1.17.1 at least.
I hope to finish my server management scripts because usually I spend too much time manually updating things and not enough time testing.
But I feel like I can be done next week. Then also add CI to auto-update staging server and I can test and update every day lol
yo my locked down school laptop will still let me set env variables
ok?
JAVA_HOME here i come
Is there a plugin that does not load the chunks in what the player is not in order not to waste memory?
Vanilla does that yes
er, wat, ^
a great plugin, Minecraft
I hear a lot of servers run that plugin
Yeah it's pretty shitty
but it's more popular than even Essentials
They must have something figured out
The developers are pretty stupid though
I want to thank all the Paper developers that made it possible for Paperweight to be this fast! https://i.imgur.com/c1fK07x.png
the fuck did you do
I ran it on Windows
nice
Windows moment
1 hour nice
Don't blame windows lmao
windows fault 😠
Paperweight is doing something wonky with git
yeah that's going into the papermc folder
i mean
damn windows 😡
building / patching paper has always just been very slow on windows
even before paperweight
i have my doubts it'll ever be fixed
it's meant to be fast according to the people that made the plugin
I'm guessing that it's just a crlf moment
Doesn't look fast
I mean, we sped up some of the stuff in git with batching
"from what I've heard"
It's gonna before much better on WSL2 as it's not impacted by windows
Actually, when building a Paper fork on 1.16, it took half of that time
Just, can't work with gradle over a network share
I mean, we do remap back and forth several times, so, it's not an overall pretty sight, theres defo much work over earlier versions, but, it seems to cache a good chunk of stuff fairly well
could it be my core.autocrlf setting?
autocrlf = input
hmmm
should that be like that?
I mean, if it's working that's probably correct
I don't consider it taking 1h to do stuff to be "working"
I mean, it's windows, the like, literal odd one out in all of this
the entire process does a lot more work and you're running on an OS known to be alergic to basic operations like moving files around
you'd need to look at what tasks are actually taking the most time and such
it might also really depend what kind of hw u have
next time, I'll run it with --scan
git itself should be fast especially as on windows commands are now actually batched iirc
i7 8th gen
but, the mapping process is pretty harsh, if you have WSL installed, i'd compare the speeds between the two
I have wsl1 installed and it was like 35 mins
We're not gonna be investing all too much time on windows, however; Nobody on the core team uses it outside of mini afaik, and he's not reported any real issues tbqh
i kinda want to try it now
you should be using wsl2
oh, that means I should annoy Mini then
wsl 1 is still hampered by windows
I'm not running it on WSL
WSL2 runs pretty much completely isolated from windows
WSL2 is 🤢
how so
I've set the autocrlf setting to true. If this doesn't fix it, I'll contact Mini later to maybe help diagnose this, as it's not very normal
windows is hampered in practically every single way and our inclination to blow time into a stupidly niche set of users on an OS which actively works against us is pretty minimal
Well, I understand that, but the fact that now people say that it compiles on Windows shouldn't be ignored. Why move from scripts to Gradle in the first place when y'all are saying "use WSL"..
Either be properly compatible, or just don't
I mean we do have people using it on windows where it doesn’t take an hour too
the fact that it takes 1 hour is literally fuck all to do with us and we're not gonna spend time on it
wait, what does git -c do?
maybe try it on windows phone and see there idk
windows' file system functions in a way that hinders it's ability to work fast
sets config options
building patching is reasonable fast on windows when run on an nvme ssd ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Yea, that's the literal fucking issue here
only takes a couple minutes at max
something is wrong
git on windows is a massive ass fucking ballache of performance implications because of windows
Because windows
use ext4 isntead of ntfs 
wait uhmmm
again, why can't you use wsl2
We need to ensure that line endings are consistent and shamefully windows was fucking us over there, hence the flags
probably something you’d have to dig into
I don't like WSL2. Doing stuff and crossing VM boundaries is stupid..
building on windows was slow as fuck before gradle aswell
then use wsl1?
you don't cross filesystems in wsl2
did that and everything was broken™️ I'd rather use it directly
git.exe -c commit.gpgsign=false -c core.safecrlf=false am --3way --ignore-whitespace <cache dir>
then fix your setup™️
just use a linux vm ;D
it's applying patches apparently








