general

[wispy blade]

nice

just did a self test

[untold copper]

Anything below 35°C

[wispy blade]

negative 😎

[novel horizon]

helped with them and so

also her

and she was sleeping w me too

❤️

[wispy blade]

relatd

https://youtu.be/bq9ghmgqoyc

[novel horizon]

yeah pretty old vid, already seen that one lol

i was also in small pool that we have at home, pretty nice and refreshing too

life is bad

btw

also i got game dev tycoon idk why but it was $3 on steam

[serene tinsel]

https:/discord.gift/4ZVngFEDPXebMc5BXtbeXP2w

enjoy

[rustic valve]

Hmm

No thank

[merry talon]

some bot will enjoy

[mossy cliff]

It says sad trombone

[thorny totem]

Compiling paper needs more than 4GB, had to upgrade my VPS mem to 8G xD

[twin lagoon]

gradle asks for 2gb

[thorny totem]

weird, it reached over 4.20GB of 4.00GB maybe something not right with my VPS^^

[golden gust]

The thing is that it forks

So, you have gradle itself, then you have the daemon, and then you have the forked processes ontop of that

[ember plover]

destroystokyo is still one of the coolest usernames ever in my books

[thorny totem]

Yep, lots of threads running 🤣

https://i.qcfb.ca/20210620045957.png

nice.

[merry talon]

updating contributing guidelines on the todo list already? :p

[golden gust]

yup

[thorny totem]

and it crashed even with 8GB, going to try building on my main computer

[merry talon]

Errr that doesn't seem right

[rare sphinx]

sorry but you are using an invalid username help

Who now how to fix this in geyser

[golden gust]

use a valid name?

We don't provide support for geyser

[ashen cliff]

Use a . instead of *.

eBay now excludes the UK under the EU selection.

[worn ember]

Float away

[copper storm]

someone here who wants to help me with a gradle/kotlin issue i am having with a minecraft plugin?
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: kotlin/jvm/internal/Intrinsics

[golden gust]

you need to shade the stdlib into your plugin, basically

[copper storm]

I have it in there..

[minor badge]

only depend on the first one there

[ancient bolt]

Paper should not rewrite any more than ~4GB of memory

[minor badge]

and do you shade it?

[vernal moth]

urg I hate writing mappings manually

I can't figure out why c net/minecraft/core/RegistryAccess net/minecraft/core/IRegistryCustom m (Lnet/minecraft/resources/ResourceKey;)Lnet/minecraft/core/Registry; registryOrThrow d doesn't work

[ancient bolt]

If you're failing with 8GB I assume there are other things running also taking memory

[copper storm]

what do you mean exactly by shading

[minor badge]

shadow plugin or the likes

i.e. exploding the dependency into your jar

[vernal moth]

maybe the signature is too wild for tinyremapper public <E> IRegistry<E> registryOrThrow(ResourceKey<? extends IRegistry<? extends E>> key) {

[ancient bolt]

The Gradle daemon itself only uses up to 512mb unless you tell it to use more

[copper storm]

that what I want to achieve.. but this is not the case if i am not mistaken..
https://sourceb.in/AVJii1qgMQ

[ancient bolt]

And paperweight is designed so that you don't need to ask Gradle to use more memory

[golden gust]

you need the shadowjar plugin

[ancient bolt]

Are the types in your signatures Mojang mapped or Spigot?

[vernal moth]

reobf jar, spigot mappings

[vernal moth]

mojang mapped tiny patch file you added

[twin lagoon]

what happened to going to bed denwav

[ancient bolt]

I am in bed on my phone lol

[thorny totem]

I tested it on my main comp and I saw the decomp used over 4-5GB plus another one 1.4~GB, I don't know then xD

[minor badge]

it's fucking 5am go to bed den smh

@copper storm you don't need the kotlin-dsl plugin, that's for writing new plugins

[ancient bolt]

Will the type signatures should be Mojang mapped @vernal moth

[minor badge]

look at John Rengelman's Shadow plugin

[twin lagoon]

mari EPIC

[vernal moth]

the signatures in the patch tiny right?

thats what I did

[ancient bolt]

Yeah reobf patch is mojang->spigot

[copper storm]

@minor badge
just added this

[ancient bolt]

And all types are given using the left side

[vernal moth]

what does that mean

the type signature in the patch.tiny needs to be spigot mapped

[ancient bolt]

All type signatures should be in Mojang mappings because that's what's on the left side of Mojang->spigot

No..

[vernal moth]

c    net/minecraft/core/RegistryAccess    net/minecraft/core/IRegistryCustom
    m    (Lnet/minecraft/resources/ResourceKey;)Lnet/minecraft/core/IRegistry;    registryOrThrow    d

but this works

IRegistry is the spigot name for Registry, thats what I changed

[twin lagoon]

while we're there

how the fuck do you remap old patches

[ancient bolt]

Did you add that to mappings-patch or reobf-mappings-patch

[vernal moth]

how do you merge reobf-mappings-patch.tiny into the spigot-mojang+yarn-reobf-patched.tiny?

its in reobf

[vernal moth]

cause like, that reverse the direction, maybe smth wrong here?

[vernal moth]

pain and suffering? idk if somebody found a nice solution yet, what we recommend is coming your patches into the 1.16.5 paper mojang mappings base branch shit and using --skip-remapping or whatever to not remap paper patches but only yours at the end

[twin lagoon]

[ancient bolt]

Oh shit

[vernal moth]

dont worry about it denwav we can fix that later if you just found the issue, am not continuing with this stuff anyways, gotta go now

[ancient bolt]

Checkout Mojang/mappings/base, get that set up and working, use a --skip-remap argument to skip remapping paper patches and copy your patches to the end of papers......

[frank otter]

oh

[twin lagoon]

[ancient bolt]

Shorter answer: wait

I need to get the project set up in a way + write instructions on how to do it, and test that it works as expected

May modify paperweight so it can work right

So you can go crazy trying to figure it out on your own, or just wait

I don't think anything is super major on my plate now since the mappings patch can bandaid our mappings issues for now, so I might look into getting fork patch remapping working next

@vernal moth this is the problem https://github.com/PaperMC/paperweight/blob/main/paperweight-lib/src/main/kotlin/tasks/PatchMappings.kt#L79

[vernal moth]

and then userdev, thats gonna be another big task

[ancient bolt]

It's hard coded, needs to be made into task inputs

Fix that and it should work as expected lol oops

[vernal moth]

I g2g, opened an issue

[lean kiln]

I'm happy to spend time on userdev

I would need pointers about where to get started tho lol

[ancient bolt]

Yeah I'll hop back on userdev after fork remapping

I can create a ticket for it

Through in my thoughts and expectations

[void void]

when is the new patch coming ? @vernal moth

[lean kiln]

when?

[ancient bolt]

So you could go off of that

[lean kiln]

sounds good

[vernal moth]

what patch, lol

[lean kiln]

when is it coming mini?!

currently building the breaky/packages branch to preemptively update cloud 😅

[void void]

I mean whether the version is ready, if not when will the next version come @vernal moth

[golden gust]

Whenever we care to push one

[vernal moth]

idfk what you mean, lmao

[golden gust]

.eta

[limber knot]

(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785

[vernal moth]

I just pushed something, it will show on the website in a second

whenever cloudflare cleans it cache I guess

there it is, # 13

[golden gust]

i could go for 14... >:)

[ashen cliff]

There we go.
https://posili.me/i/2021-06-20_11-59-00.png

[void void]

paper new version ?

[twin lagoon]

.downloads

[limber knot]

https://papermc.io/downloads

[void void]

Are the items still going?

Are the chests or something still invisible?

[wispy blade]

should be fixed

[void void]

yea

it's a problem when the spigot switches.,

things go, their chests become invisible, things disappear or something like that

spigot is doing extreme lagsee also

[delicate patio]

it's really nice that spigot added Player#getPing

[thorny totem]

Last thing, noticed my VPS doesn't have a swap enabled, hence why Im not able to compile?

[golden gust]

Think we only had that in paper at like 1.8 but 🤷‍♂️

having swap can help if you're running low on memory but it's not strictly required

[void void]

When exactly does Paper come out ?

[thorny totem]

well it fills up the entire 8GB so I don't know whats wrong, gonna investigate/try^^

[golden gust]

!kick @void void Read the rules and the announcements

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Kicked CML#8579 (Read the rules and the announcements) [1 total infraction] -- electronicboy#8869.

[delicate patio]

https://tenor.com/view/dhsrp-staff-server-fivem-discord-gif-20097307

[wispy blade]

check gradles jvm args

heard that helps 👀

[worn ember]

It's Sunday my dudes

[craggy nest]

The experimental builds were accepted by apex hosting lol

[wispy blade]

yikers

[foggy veldt]

They don’t want to deal with wen eta probs

Wen eta paper 1.17 -> wen eta host has paper 1.17 -> wen eta plugin 1.17

[worn ember]

[minor badge]

yeah a few hosts are moving to allow use of 1.17 already

[oblique kiln]

so that means paper must be stable enough for their standards

or they dont care

[minor badge]

no, they allow testing of it

you should still keep backups no matter what update you do, so it's entirely fine for them

[oblique kiln]

usually are there issues from upgrading from spigot to paper?

[minor badge]

no, there should never be any issue with that

[oblique kiln]

aight cool

[minor badge]

and afaik there are none now too

[oblique kiln]

pogchamp

[thorny totem]

I tried by adding -Xmx4G and it didn't help 😦

[golden gust]

you don't want base gradle using that much

various processes are spawned which use resources which if you have that set may pick that up

[tropic flame]

(you can disable daemon forking... if you want the process to be slower™️ with the advantage of using less ram, with --no-daemon)

(that's what I do with Forge when I want to set up a workspace in my potato - if you have an actually okay computer you might not want to use this)

[mental meadow]

good morning uw

[viral hornet]

owo

[mental meadow]

Camm is here yay

[heady spear]

OwO

[solid siren]

Paper disabled the duping in 1.17?

[wispy blade]

paper fixes dupes in general

[tropic flame]

It most likely did, if it wasn't Mojang themselves.

if your server's economy depends on bugs, your server's economy is wrong

[void void]

Do you think we will get a announcement on a stable versions release?

[mental meadow]

There is no such thing as a stable release

[void void]

How about a safe release

This should be good

[mental meadow]

There is no such thing as a safe release either

[void void]

You right

[vernal moth]

We can never comment on the stability of course builds, we don't have the capacity for a full QA team

So you should do your own testing

[void void]

Yeah that's fair

[mental meadow]

.try applies as usual^^

[ashen cliff]

The main issue with a "stable" version would be, that people would just stick with it. Forever.

[limber knot]

https://tryitands.ee/

[vernal moth]

Generally, if you wait a few days or smth and watch the issue tracker, you can get a sense of how stable it is

[void void]

^^^

[mental meadow]

The first few builds of a new version are usually not that stable, but thats the thing with every software

[void void]

So if we take that into account..

[oblique wedge]

Is there a place/site where i can find out what exploits/dupes paper patches?

[vernal moth]

All known ones ^^

Can check patches/server

[wispy blade]

:34:

[pastel cradle]

Added the new paper to my SMP and nothing seems broken so fingers crossed

[mental meadow]

please create backups^^

[pastel cradle]

lol first thing I did

I am very paranoid

My backups have backups

[untold copper]

yes

good

[wispy blade]

but do the backups of the backups have backups?

[mental meadow]

nothing to do with paranoia, just good practices

[nova plume]

Aurora are you trying to get the max boost badge

[mental meadow]

?

[mental meadow]

don't really care about that

[tropic flame]

"hey microsoft can you please re-add vulnerabilities to the windows kernel? my ransomware depends on it "

• server owners, whenever they ask Paper to remove dupe fixes

[wispy blade]

that's how stupid they sound yes

[viral hornet]

am i cool now because i have the max boost badge

[tropic flame]

that was the intention lmao

[void void]

All my players are dumber than rocks so they don't know any dupe glitches

[viral hornet]

That's not nice to say about them

[void void]

Good thing they're not here then huh lmao

[foggy veldt]

Plot twist: you’re the one who’s dumber than rocks and your players are not getting caught while duping 😳

[tropic flame]

i guess it's good that they're dumber than rocks, then

[viral hornet]

You never know

[void void]

Plot twist: I know everything about my server and my player base

Perks of owning a server

[untold copper]

Plot twist: You really don't

[tropic flame]

"mmmyes, overexpensive anticheat and no moderators, that will do"

[void void]

Plot twist: you have your minecraft skin as your pfp 😂

[untold copper]

its a good pfp ok

[foggy veldt]

Lol ima end the plot twist cause I think he’s actually getting salty from my joke

[void void]

@foggy veldt it ain't that deep my bro lol

[tropic flame]

plot twist: he's not getting salty

[foggy veldt]

Plot twist: I got salty

[delicate patio]

it's actually really painful.

[void void]

Mmmh yes

[viral hornet]

problem??????????????????

[void void]

Yes

[viral hornet]

Okay

[void void]

Hope you had a warm welcome to my server my boy

[tropic flame]

wait, how did you set that "about me" thing?

[mental meadow]

It's a beta feature only some people get

they slowly roll it out

[tropic flame]

oh

[viral hornet]

Oh, you're from WA?

[kind ice]

dont speedrun your worlds

[sullen grove]

no problems trying that for myself. what did you do?

[void void]

Yes sir, Perth represent

[wispy blade]

[whole prawn]

nitro only

[wispy blade]

who lives in Perth

[void void]

Me

I live in Perth.

[kind ice]

speed 10 and went around the world and the world wasnt loading anymore

[wispy blade]

sounds like a you problem

[sullen grove]

couldnt that be your ram memory or something

[viral hornet]

Terrible

[sullen grove]

or server ram

[void void]

Filthy queenslander

[viral hornet]

(only because i'm jealous i've never been to WA yet )

I actually have a few mates in Perth (met online) that i'd love to visit

• mainly go there to explore the coast because the beaches look great

[void void]

Perth is a great city, never had a problem here

[tropic flame]

Perthithtent thtorage?

[void void]

Beaches are great during summer (obviously) and the sunsets.

[unreal quarry]

😮 did cat just force push to master? 😮

[viral hornet]

Yeah! Seeing the sun set over the water instead of rise would be really cool haha

[tropic flame]

based

[kind ice]

it probably is

[golden gust]

Billy

Shut your whore mouth

[wispy blade]

hey

be nice to billy

otherwise he might bite back 👀

[void void]

Vice versa for me, rather see the sun rise over the water for once in my life

[viral hornet]

House swap

[golden gust]

last message I sent billy

[void void]

Surely

[deep juniper]

[viral hornet]

#MaybeJustTheTipToTip

Pretty homo if there are no socks involved

[golden gust]

what would you know?

[viral hornet]

[mental meadow]

Camm is an expert

[ashen cliff]

Good thing me and Camm don't have DMs yet.

[viral hornet]

WHY is krusic typing

[unreal quarry]

When I'm down to my socks it's time for business
That's why they're called business socks

[viral hornet]

omg I knew it would be something attacking me

[void void]

Ay fucking yo?

[viral hornet]

Oooo I thought you wore business socks for when you worked on Purpur

😳

[quasi valley]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/accidently-loaded-paper-1-17-and-ruined-chunks.511651/

[mental meadow]

The first message Camm ever send me was "I'm dum"

[viral hornet]

Sounds accurate

[wispy blade]

Bro! How is KGBHosting doing?

[tropic flame]

semi-related: what happened to the world format that now you can't just downgrade? I remember putting a 1.8 world into 1.7 and all i would find is the newer version blocks missing in the world (understandable)

[ashen cliff]

Good bro.

[void void]

MapLike?

[wispy blade]

known issue

also windows 8

[untold copper]

I used windows 8.1 for a good few years

idk why

[viral hornet]

In future try to use a paste service & #paper-help

[tropic flame]

at least it's not windows 10

[spice ether]

Or Windows Vista

[tropic flame]

Windows 7 up to 8.1 are the based windows versions

[void void]

sorry Is it about Windows?

[deep juniper]

No. Paper should run just fine on Windows 8.

[mental meadow]

well

[void void]

.

[ashen cliff]

should

[mental meadow]

as good as anything runs on windows 8

@void void see #paper-help Cat answered you there

[golden gust]

Please don't cross post

[deep juniper]

As long as Java 16 itself runs on Windows 8, I don't see why it shouldn't.

[mental meadow]

as good as anything runs on windows 8

[kind ice]

i run on windows xp, so?

[ashen cliff]

Zulu probably supports XP with 16.

[kind ice]

imagine

[wispy blade]

debian 11 waiting room

[tropic flame]

run minecraft on Windows 98

[wispy blade]

someome did that already

[kind ice]

Run minecraft on Windows 1.0

[wispy blade]

port minecraft to DOS

[tropic flame]

yeah but at most you can run like, 1.7 on it

[wispy blade]

no iirc someone ran 1.16

[tropic flame]

huh

[wispy blade]

at 15 fps but still

[kind ice]

[royal kernel]

When Im making a backup, it always gets stuck on the patched jar, does anyone else get this?

[olive marlin]

Maybe it sees patched jar as open/in use and waits or something?

[tropic flame]

i probably would just exclude the cache folder and just include the paperclip jar in that case

(unless you're not using paperclip )

[royal kernel]

Thanks

[tropic flame]

I just found #nutrition-science in the archive and thought "why is this here? let me see the last message".

I now see why it was archived.

[mental jay]

i need help can anyone tells me a hoster free (no trails) 24/7

[tropic flame]

Aternos

just join the server every 5 minutes so it doesn't shut down due to no players

[blazing quarry]

bro i haven't updated in 3 hours and im 4 builds behind

[mental jay]

i said 24/7

[nova plume]

Just host ur own

And keep pc on 24/7 for free

[tropic flame]

it is 24/7, as long as it has players

[mental jay]

i am having trouble on java

[mental jay]

i sleep ok

[tropic flame]

then you don't need a 24/7 host

[mental jay]

its not installing the latest version for 1.17

[nova plume]

@mental jay noone will give hosting for free

Ur gonna have to host urself

[tropic flame]

*Electricity bills might apply.

[nova plume]

[mental jay]

yes

ur smart lol

[royal kernel]

Steal it from neighbors house

[mental jay]

lol

[royal kernel]

[mental jay]

ur 5 bits on windows

lol

[nova plume]

@mental jay whats "ur problem with java"

As u said above

[meager tusk]

If you're not using KGBJVM you're doing it wrong.

[mental jay]

1.17 requires java version 16

[nova plume]

What os are you on rn

[mental jay]

windows 10

[nova plume]

Press windows + r

[mental jay]

ok

[nova plume]

In the box, type appwiz.cpl

[mental jay]

ok

[nova plume]

And then uninstall anything u see with java in the name

[mental jay]

i did the same method

i re installed 3 times

[nova plume]

What do you see

Can u send screenshot

Of control panel

[mental jay]

java 8

update 291

[nova plume]

Uninstall that, u need java 16

For java 16,

Download this:

https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/openjdk16-binaries/releases/download/jdk-16.0.1%2B9/OpenJDK16U-jdk_x64_windows_hotspot_16.0.1_9.msi

"OpenJDK" is basically Java but better, if u dont know

In very simple terms

[mental meadow]

.java16

[limber knot]

Follow the guide for how to update to Java 16 here: https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/java-update/index.html

[mental meadow]

see this

[nova plume]

Forgot that existed lol

[blazing quarry]

You are so handsome

[buoyant pier]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

[wispy blade]

?

[cosmic wyvern]

Paper 1.17 is still unsafe right?

[mental meadow]

See #announcements

[royal kernel]

Yes

[coarse venture]

Paper for 1.17.0 isn't stable at the moment. It's a test/beta release.

[cosmic wyvern]

I see, thanks was wondering if I could seitch yet

I use spigot but would prefer paper ofcourse

[tropic flame]

I can't help but read "1.7" instead of "1.17" because I think it's a typo

I never thought minecraft would make it this far

holy

[coarse venture]

I never though I'd play this game after a decade.

[cosmic wyvern]

I have the feeling updates are way faster nowadays

[tropic flame]

well this is my 6th year of minecraft

[cosmic wyvern]

Cant remember so fast updates back then

[blazing quarry]

This is my 2nd year of Minecraft

[cosmic wyvern]

1.17 was disappointing as hell though for me, all cool features are delayed to part 2 (1.18)

[tropic flame]

well, what I feel now is that they're trying to make bigger updates with each release, to the point where they're actually dividing updates in parts now

[mental meadow]

It's not 1.17.0, it's just 1.17

the most important feature was in 1.17 so it's fine

[cosmic wyvern]

Yeah i feel like minecraft tried too much this time honestly

[tropic flame]

i mean i don't think big updates are a bad thing

[cosmic wyvern]

Was there some big technical change? In gameplay I feel like the changes are not so big or game changing

[tropic flame]

I remember 1.10 and being like "why didn't they just put this into 1.9?"

[mental meadow]

[buoyant pier]

So will paper be more performance optimized than spigot 😎

[mental meadow]

yes

[buoyant pier]

pogger

L spigot

[cosmic wyvern]

No thats great bigger updates but I believe they tried too much this update and hyped everyone for something they could not do so fast

[coarse venture]

To me it is .0, as .1 will be the next one most likely. It kinda feels like 1.17 groups .0 , .1, etc. So I will stick for .0 for clarification i guess.

[tropic flame]

but knowing how at the same time they merged 1.14 into 1.13 at some point and 1.14 became something else, it's just interesting for me

[worn ember]

Guess we're stuck with budget duck now the other one is banned

[royal kernel]

?

[worn ember]

Inside joke

[untold copper]

what happened to duck

[tribal temple]

hey people i have created a mod folder and i want to share it with my friends how can i do that can someone tell ?

[worn ember]

he got yeeted when he posted a parmesan foot pic

[mental jay]

mideafire.

[worn ember]

you could publish it on technic

wait, they dont actually host files do they

dropbox is an option, media fire as said above, hosting it on your own server

[tribal temple]

how to do that tho ?

[tribal temple]

how can i tho ?

[worn ember]

use ur brain, and google

its not hard to figure out

[tribal temple]

ok sorry

[worn ember]

[tribal temple]

thnx for the help tho

[wispy blade]

https://opensource.com/article/21/6/breakfast

tfw gets this in google feed

lmao

[worn ember]

people eat breakfast?

[plucky sparrow]

fr

[exotic siren]

To be fair tho, without spigot, paper will not exist too

[golden gust]

we could hard fork right now away from spigot

[heady spear]

prove it

[wild escarp]

the tooling is in place

[void void]

lol

[void void]

Oh I have a question about the tooling

I didn’t really understand what’s going on with NMS in 1.17

Spigot decided to use the mojang mappings and we need to remap our plugin if we use them

If we don’t we use the spigot deobfuscated thing

And paper decided to use the mojang mappings so we also need to remap but not to the same thing?

Because paper doesn’t no longer use the spigot deobfuscation thing?

[olive marlin]

Paper only uses Mojang mappings during server patch time.

[void void]

Okay so we don’t need to remap the plugins?

We can directly program using the mappings?

[olive marlin]

Spigot decided to drop their mappings.

No. If you want to use NMS with Mojmap, you need to remap back to obfuscated code.

[void void]

Alright but with spigot we need to remap to their mappings right?

[olive marlin]

Paper doesn't change things here. But yes.

Mentioned in developer notes: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/spigot-bungeecord-1-17.510208/

[void void]

Okay but I don’t understand

Do we need to remap our plugins to two different things?

[golden gust]

No

[void void]

So what’s the difference with paper?

[golden gust]

paper maps (mostly*) to the exact same mappings that spigot uses, because plugins

our tooling is catered around mojmap entirely

[worn ember]

hello daddy cat ❤️

[golden gust]

We don't currently support developers using nms, but, are working on tooling for it

[heady spear]

fuck developers

[quasi valley]

||could work on runtime mappings and plugin bytecode rewriting instead||

[void void]

Oh okay and this tooling will allow us to use the mojang mappings and to export something remapped to the spigot mappings

[golden gust]

yes

[void void]

And this will be for gradle? 😀

[olive marlin]

So you say did and will support developers using NMS?

[heady spear]

by the way, good morning @quasi valley. I smelled a fart before that reminded me of you 😍

[golden gust]

yes

[void void]

That’s awesome

[quasi valley]

hello city

[void void]

Is there a way to see the progress of this tooling (a specific repo on GitHub or anything)?

[golden gust]

I mean, we don't currently have the tooling in place for devs to work with nms unless they wanna do private stuff in which they should probs be using the mojmap'd jars in production anyways

probs will be part of the paperweight repo

[heady spear]

when r u planning on removing bugs?

they're such an unnecessary part of the server :/

[golden gust]

nevah

we use City dev practices here

[heady spear]

I've never had a bug in my software

[untold copper]

lmfao

[worn ember]

when cloud has good docs

[heady spear]

@waxen panther ded is asking u a question

[worn ember]

[cunning raft]

@waxen panther me too

[waxen panther]

we could have 30 pages on every single method cloud has and ded still wouldn’t be able to figure it out

[heady spear]

that is true

[worn ember]

make it 40 pages then

[heady spear]

flashbacks to configurate

[waxen panther]

Took him like 7 months to use configurate

[worn ember]

hey, that actually works now

[waxen panther]

It only took jroy 2!

[worn ember]

its not that i didnt understood it, its just that it didnt quite fit in the model i had so i had to struggle to get it to line up

[waxen panther]

sez u

[heady spear]

hey brocc my friend said she wanted to come with me to nottingham, can't believe I get to visit tommyinnit's hometown 😮

[worn ember]

yez

[cunning raft]

Excuse me

Merge time is not the same as development time

[waxen panther]

Becareful nottinghamese are crazy

Sure

[cunning raft]

Took me a day and numerous hours of bugfixes

[waxen panther]

Yea so like 5 months

[cunning raft]

this is why you are the intern assistant

[waxen panther]

mf

aren’t you on holiday

[heady spear]

I am scared tho she is gonna force me to go to the gym with me

and she is like way too fit and i don't wanna

what if she forces me to go on her bikini comp prep diet? I am starting to regret this trip

[waxen panther]

just say that England gyms are too gross

Diets

[worn ember]

just gotta assert dominance you sub nub

[heady spear]

she'd beat me up

[worn ember]

[heady spear]

on the flip side

found out tech is very cheap in the UK

might just go ahead and buy new macbook while I'm there and save €250 lol

[twin lagoon]

watch out for the keyboard layout

[heady spear]

ye god forbid I lose åäö

[twin lagoon]

well that and make sure you don't get the UK keyboard layout

[heady spear]

I could just order from the apple website to her address tho, you can pick a Swedish layout on the UK page

[twin lagoon]

o

[golden gust]

Yea, they let you select the layout

I got a US one 😄

[heady spear]

I need my umlauts

[worn ember]

azerty gang

[twin lagoon]

qwerty

[austere ivy]

us keyboards are pretty neat, they’ve got a dedicated 🍔 button

[heady spear]

I want my keyboard in alphabetical order

[worn ember]

oh god

[heady spear]

Swedish keyboards has a dedicated § button :'')

(which explains why notchy-boo picked it for the colour codes)

[waxen panther]

So does the UK Mac layout

[austere ivy]

amazon prime’s search on my fire stick is alphabetical order. it’s the dumbest UI

it’s not even outdated software or anything. it gets updates so it’s theoretically the best that Amazon can produce

[heady spear]

we also all have a dedicated ~UwU 🥺 🥺 🍆 ~ key

[twin lagoon]

uwu

[heady spear]

uwu majkel

[twin lagoon]

@vestal jasper uwu

[austere ivy]

dangit now I’ve got to get a swedish keyboard

[waxen panther]

[twin lagoon]

[waxen panther]

Just make your own layout

[austere ivy]

uwu-layout, thnx for the idea broc I’m on it

[ornate dirge]

Brain reading computer with no keyboard

[austere ivy]

adding it to corn right now

[heady spear]

@vestal jasper @vestal jasper you'll need to adjust your sleeping schedule for while I'm in the UK or I won't be able to yell at you in TS as often

major concern

[twin lagoon]

there's a 1 hour time difference wtf

[ornate dirge]

Shit happends

[heady spear]

I will actually have to be around people

[twin lagoon]

not for 10 days

[heady spear]

I can't be a degenerate and work at 4am

wow i cleaned my laptop and now i can see the screen again

been relying on text-to-speech to get anything done

[haughty bear]

icon idea for a "limited" symbol? as in, something has partial functionality

[heady spear]

such as michael?

good idea

[twin lagoon]

wtf

also come back to syscraft @waxen panther

[waxen panther]

Syscrafts age average is even lower than here

Some how

[heady spear]

kek suscraft

why would anyone be in there ?

[waxen panther]

Imagine needing help with sysadmin

[twin lagoon]

@swift root

[waxen panther]

Literally the easiest job ammirite

😎

[heady spear]

it's barely a job

dunno why they get paid tbh

[worn ember]

just ping mikel for server stuff

[heady spear]

whenever i do he just gives me sassy responses

[twin lagoon]

good

[desert trout]

yes update 1.17

[worn ember]

hes dutch, its all he knows 😉

[heady spear]

0/10 would not recommend

we're replacing him with a rock

[quasi valley]

michale also is a filthy weeb

[twin lagoon]

shut up kenwald

[quasi valley]

so it's even worse

[heady spear]

@quasi valley i love you

[twin lagoon]

no you don't

[quasi valley]

o

[waxen panther]

[heady spear]

i want ur babies

[twin lagoon]

kenny what do you think of kotlin

[quasi valley]

but I dont have any babies

[heady spear]

let's make some then

[twin lagoon]

[heady spear]

dw kenny ill go to germany soon and then we can get married

[quasi valley]

perfect

I'll wait

[heady spear]

you better

[rigid solar]

Who can link me to a plugin that is good for giving players an rank for the time they play note it should be able to work with Luckperms

[wispy blade]

any tall girls? 🥺

[twin lagoon]

luckperms default group

[wispy blade]

literally use luckperms

[upper bloom]

when is paper 1.17?

[heady spear]

@waxen panther how much cocaine can i legally bring across the border?

[twin lagoon]

yesterday

[waxen panther]

how big are your underwear

[wispy blade]

LMAO

[quasi valley]

I dont think city wears any

[blazing quarry]

Don't update until the structure piece has been fixed

[worn ember]

[wispy blade]

hi DED

[heady spear]

i lost all my underwear in spain

[blazing quarry]

Nice

[waxen panther]

understandable

none then

[heady spear]

😦

[wispy blade]

imagine needing cocaine

[waxen panther]

imagine not

[heady spear]

Ok another question but do you all have running water or do I need to bring a bucket?

[quasi valley]

I dont live in great britain, so yes, running water

[waxen panther]

some of our water is disgusting but idk which one they have in the north

[twin lagoon]

@heady spear luckperms NATS support when

????

[rigid solar]

dude i want to have my players rank up while they play, meaning luckperms does not have that feature to rank up a player for the time they play it just have the ability to rank up manually via a player. Example: I am a new player joining the server i played 2 hours and done some quests that is required to do a rankup to the next rank.

[heady spear]

Why is the UK literally a third world country

[blazing quarry]

Damn paper is updating faster than Dream posting cringe

[twin lagoon]

brexit

[quasi valley]

and because of the IRON LADY

[wispy blade]

been up north can confirm there's no running water

[heady spear]

Ok good thing it rains 364 days a year then

[wispy blade]

just come to NL

[heady spear]

I’d rather not

I like staying above sea level

[worn ember]

[quasi valley]

I only go to countries I could find city

[worn ember]

the lost city of atlantis

[heady spear]

Kenny is having the longest stroke ever

This has to be a world record

[quasi valley]

excuse me, this is a short one

[wispy blade]

joke's on you my village is above sea lvl

[worn ember]

we know its short kenny, its ok

[blazing quarry]

Wow that's a great idea having an undersea village

[heady spear]

Long enough for me uwu

[quasi valley]

ur a short one, ded

[worn ember]

am not

[heady spear]

Kenny you’re plenty enough. You’re all the man I need..

[quasi valley]

very tiny

very smol

[wispy blade]

SmallBrainDragon

[worn ember]

in my defense, thats not my fault

[wispy blade]

it is

[heady spear]

@mossy vessel ??

[quasi valley]

just get one of the stretchy bois of the middle ages

[wispy blade]

you messed up cell division

[worn ember]

i love having ruptured limbs, ur right

[wispy blade]

yooo

swag

kinda hot

[heady spear]

that’s better than being short lol

Short ppl r cringe

[blazing quarry]

I'm at work I wanna go home, I need to make money off my Minecraft server already

[wispy blade]

kek

[heady spear]

180+ or bust

[worn ember]

i'm like 1.75 or something

[heady spear]

Imagine not working full time on minecraft development lol

[wispy blade]

perks of being short:

• you get ignored
• going through crowds is vrom

[heady spear]

🤡🤡🤡🤡

[worn ember]

you also get less air resistance

[heady spear]

@waxen panther I wanna start scamming kids on habbo but I can’t afford HC

Help

[blazing quarry]

I'm 184 cm not inches because inches are cringe

[wispy blade]

yes

[twin lagoon]

god Daim chocolate is too good

i feel fat

[blazing quarry]

Imagine using imperial unit

[wispy blade]

Daim is yummy

[heady spear]

Daim is the worst thing to come out of Sweden

[twin lagoon]

Daim is the best thing since IKEA

[blazing quarry]

Troika is better

[heady turret]

Daim is good tf do you mean

[heady spear]

It is gross

[worn ember]

second worst

[upbeat falcon]

Troika is an artist trio formed by Eva Rucki, Conny Freyer and ...

http://troika.uk.com/

Troika is an artist trio formed by Eva Rucki, Conny Freyer and Sebastien Noel. Their work deals with the subjective and objective readings of reality and how ...

Requested by Michael - About 9,950,000 results (0.46 seconds)

[wispy blade]

you're the worst thing to come out of Sweden, city >:c

[heady spear]

You’re not wrong

[blazing quarry]

That's not what I meant by Troika

[wispy blade]

Côte d'Or is better than Daim tho

[blazing quarry]

Search Troika chocolate

[upbeat falcon]

Troika (chocolate) - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troika_(chocolate)

Troika is a chocolate-based confection made by Nidar AS of Trondheim, Norway. It consists of three distinct layers, prompting its name "Troika". The top layer is ...

Requested by Michael - About 3,470,000 results (0.34 seconds)

[twin lagoon]

norway

It is also covered with dark chocolate.

it's shit

[worn ember]

god dammit fb is so trash, i made an event and it literally errors every time i go to the page xD

[heady spear]

Dumle is where it’s at

[blazing quarry]

It's better than daim i promise

[heady spear]

I got ice cream with my hamburger order 😍

Can’t wait to become American

[twin lagoon]

dumle looks epic

[blazing quarry]

Twist

[twin lagoon]

wait are dumle's not rectangle rolo's

[heady spear]

Nah the caramel is soft

Almost runny

[twin lagoon]

so a rolo

[heady spear]

Softer

.,

[wispy blade]

rolo is literally liquid caramrl wdym

[blazing quarry]

I don't understand Americans obsession with Twinkles I tried them a few times and they taste like nothing

[heady spear]

What is a twinkle lol

[wispy blade]

twinkie bar

[heady spear]

American everything tastes gross

[wispy blade]

true

[heady spear]

Dumb country with dumb things

[blazing quarry]

Oh i meant Twinkie

Not to be confused with twinks

[heady spear]

Twink??

@vestal jasper

[wispy blade]

Lmao

[heady spear]

They’re talking about you

[blazing quarry]

Skinny gay guys

[wispy blade]

ngl

[heady spear]

My friend sent me this

And I am very disappointed

[wispy blade]

LAMBIK CAT

[blazing quarry]

If u look like a twink but you're not gay are you still a twink?

[wispy blade]

looking like != being

[blazing quarry]

Yeah but twink is literally a description of appearance

[wispy blade]

i wonder

[heady spear]

Twinks are so 2015 tho

[wispy blade]

is there something like that but for lesbians

[heady spear]

Otters are where it’s at

[blazing quarry]

Twinkette

[wispy blade]

lmao

[twin lagoon]

the fuck is an otter

[wispy blade]

cuz ye i definitely fit that description

[twin lagoon]

i don't want to google the term

[blazing quarry]

Otters eat sea shells

[heady spear]

I was gonna make a ✂️ joke

[twin lagoon]

i am googling the term

i regret googling the term

@swift root

[wispy blade]

@swift root this u?

[blazing quarry]

https://youtu.be/o6xTwpIyN14

[heady spear]

I went from being a twunk to an otter smh

Stupid corona ruined my physique

[wispy blade]

xd

cant gain weight gang

[heady spear]

90% of paper general is just us tagging random people

[wispy blade]

true

[heady spear]

Things absolutely haven’t changed since I left months ago

[olive marlin]

I was in that gang until 2 years ago when I went to USA :/

[wispy blade]

LOL

[heady spear]

Remove your thyroid and you’ll gain weight

Worked for me

Didn’t stop working

I got fat.

[cunning raft]

@waxen panther

[waxen panther]

@cunning raft

[heady spear]

Broccolai is barely people

[waxen panther]

true

i am person

[heady spear]

Rock? Probably

You’re dumb enough for multiple people tbf

[wispy blade]

brocc is brocc

[heady spear]

[wispy blade]

🥦

[waxen panther]

wtf .

did you get anywhere with the get and sets

[heady spear]

No

That is your project

I wanna setup a brigadier testing environment

But I also need to pack and clean

[blazing quarry]

I can't wait to get vaccinated

It's gonna be great to lick doorhandles again

[wispy blade]

that's going in the papermc folder

[queen swift]

From where the comes from? I remember seeing this on the old bukkit?

[heady spear]

@twin lagoon i am now eating dumle ice cream

it is very nice

[blazing quarry]

So what's the deal with the generation error

[wispy blade]

what generation error?

[viscid remnant]

Weird bug

Seems to be on mojang's end

[blazing quarry]

There is a known vanilla issue which may cause some "MapLike" and structure piece issues: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-227945

[wind mason]

I STILL CANT JOIN MY SERVER PLS HELP

[twin lagoon]

ok

[wind mason]

“INVALID PLAYER DATA”

[twin lagoon]

ok

[untold meadow]

what's the "best" block logging plugin nowadays?

[wind mason]

help

[oblique kiln]

coreprotect

[wind mason]

coreorotect

[twin lagoon]

caps lock off

send logs in #paper-help

[untold meadow]

nice - ty both :)

[waxen panther]

prism if you want something open source

[heady spear]

CoreProtect is absolutely not the "best"

it's the most popular, sure, but it is also very poorly made (although I think they're working on improving it with help from the community?)

also, as broccolai mentioned, it isn't open sourced. Prism is better in every aspect

[oblique kiln]

so whats the best according to you

oh alright

[blazing quarry]

Does prism use less space?

[heady spear]

(unless someone decides to continue working on irongolem because it's obviously the best of the best)

[waxen panther]

prism has a couple less features by in my experience performs much better

and c*reprotect is closed source so

😬

[heady spear]

I was going to finish irongolem as a CP replacement, but prism became active again around that time

so I abandoned it and switched over to hyperverse

ironically multiverse got updates just as I started working on hyperverse

I am cursed.

[wispy blade]

hi cursed

im naomi

[quasi valley]

help

[wispy blade]

@quasi valley uwu

[waxen panther]

hyperverse still way more based

[wispy blade]

brocc still way more based

cuz he uses void

[heady spear]

might actually be worthwhile updating it to mojmap

that + cloud

and unbadify will be litty lit lit

[untold meadow]

hmm yes not massively interested in stuff that isn't open source, ill give prism a look over

[void void]

how do i make it so that <any word>.myserversite.com points to my minecraft server?

[untold meadow]

tbf i really don't need loads of features, just something that lets me know who places stuff which and that's it :')

[void void]

can i do * instead of play?

is there a list of special characters

[waxen panther]

mojmap would be awesome

[void void]

are there any discords that ppl can help me with DNS?

searching discord dns server returns as expected stuff about dns

[ashen cliff]

https://community.cloudflare.com/t/wildcards-in-srv-records/214828

[void void]

why is everyone using cloudflare

is godaddy the same thing?

[twin lagoon]

no

[void void]

do i need to setup godaddy with cloudflare

[ashen cliff]

The provider in this case doesn't matter.

[zealous knot]

Point your domain name’s nameservers to cloudflare’s

And bam

You’re using cloudflare

[ashen cliff]

And bam 90% of stuff just randomly broke and have no idea why.

[void void]

from godaddy to cloudflare? why?

what benefit does using cloudflare provid

[zealous knot]

If you don’t even understand what each of those companies does, why are you so eager to use cloudflare?

[waxen panther]

he's not

the guide is a cloudflare guide

[zealous knot]

Oh my bad

[waxen panther]

and he wanted to know if godaddy was the same steps

[zealous knot]

Go daddy is a domain name registrar

Cloudflare is sort of a reverse proxy on steroids

It provides security and optimization

[void void]

cant even find a website that lists what these mean

[sturdy sphinx]

Anyone know any plugins that have visual website for server performance, something like it hosts itself a website or i can connect to grafana or smth?

[mental meadow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DNS_record_types

[zealous knot]

You probably shouldn’t mess with these and instead ask godaddy to just help with that in a support ticket

Unless that’s not something godaddy do idk

Maybe godaddy’s dns manager allows for wildcards too

[static pumice]

why was #❗-1-17 archived

[mental meadow]

see #announcements

[static pumice]

oh ok ty

also, im lookingat your website and im only finding test builds

[mental meadow]

yes, read the message in #announcements

[static pumice]

oh sorry

[zealous knot]

Adhd be like ^

[worn ember]

reading

[void void]

i called godaddy and they said i can do a cname with * and itll work nice

[crystal compass]

Loaded a small vanilla server with paper with about 15 players on at a time for the past 24 hours, bug free so far

[olive marlin]

I think PLAN hosts website? But I never used it.
There's plenty of exporters to different monitoring services - for example Prometheus exporter plugin, which then Prometheus stores in DB and grafana reads from it.

[zealous knot]

Then yeah just create a cname record with the name being * and the destination being your servers address

[sturdy sphinx]

Cheers managed to find something, just need to test 🙂

[void void]

is ttl how long the client caches the name for?

would it be better to have it high or low

[worn ember]

time to live, yeah

[twin lagoon]

leave it to default

[void void]

ig high means less requests but slower

[zealous knot]

It doesn’t matter at all

[void void]

okay

F

[twin lagoon]

what are you trying

[void void]

its just my server ip address

[twin lagoon]

that's not how a cname works

[void void]

do i need to make a subdomain for my server ip address

[ivory bone]

i use 1/2 hour for ttl for mc servers

[twin lagoon]

if you want to use a cname

yes

[olive marlin]

Came is for name->name

[ivory bone]

also. ttl is server ttl, not necessarily client ttl.

[olive marlin]

A is for name->ipv4

[void void]

ah so * would work for an A you think?

if it works for a cname it probably does?

[worn ember]

[olive marlin]

AAAA is for name->ipv6

Yes, it should work.

[void void]

lmao

[olive marlin]

That's called wildcard entry, every sane provider should support it.

[void void]

damn i cant delete srv records can I

[twin lagoon]

you can?

[worn ember]

[warm anchor]

Never michale!

[void void]

nah there isnt an option to delete

nice the * worked

[warm anchor]

I am sure

[void void]

i just saw it when i took screenshot

omfg

[warm anchor]

[worn ember]

[cosmic raft]

:|

[twin lagoon]

hello kazheek

[cosmic raft]

hi

[ripe sphinx]

hi kashike

[zealous knot]

Kashkek

[tired heath]

How likely will Nintendo sue you, when you drop heads with pokemon names, 100% or more like 99%

[zealous knot]

More like 0% because they don’t give a shit

[magic river]

Depends, how much money are you making from it?

If the answer is $0 the next question is how many people see it. If the answer is more than $0 expect to hear from their lawyers eventually

[worn ember]

If they'd make a profit from suing you, they will, and they already have plenty of times

if they ever find out

[magic river]

Nintendo sues total conversion mods and fan remakes of their stuff from 30 years ago

[tired heath]

Nothing, I just integrated a plugin using the headdatabase giving random drops to players and just found out that half of the monster have pokemon names 😄

[zealous knot]

You all are wrong, they won’t sue them because they’re busy suing sellers on wish and AliExpress selling knockoff pokemon shit

[magic river]

Well, they threaten to anyway and have gone through with it the few times the projects haven't caved

[unkempt drift]

The pixelmon mod… did they get sued at some point?

[worn ember]

tbh i think they have

[magic river]

https://bleedingcool.com/games/minecraft-mod-pixelmon-gets-shut-pokemon-company/

[tired heath]

Pixelmon, are'nt most servers somewhere in russia

[worn ember]

https://www.destructoid.com/nintendo-drops-the-hammer-on-pixelmon-a-pokemon-mod-for-minecraft/

so yeah

they're literally that company that will sue the shit out of you cuz they can

[magic river]

https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/twitch-streamer-adult-tiktoker-pokeprincxss-sued-nintendo-name

[tired heath]

well, time to remove pokemon heads than

[worn ember]

what else you gonna do with all the money you make from selling 50$ sd cards

[magic river]

They aren't looking to make money by suing, they're just litigious as fuck

[worn ember]

its one of the reasons i'll never buy any nintendo product, they just dont give a fuck about the community

[magic river]

They don't want to risk their brand ever being associated with something they didn't plan out and run study groups on

Probably because they can't risk Zelda and Mario being ruined, then they'd have to come up with something new 😛

[warm anchor]

Yup dotn fuck with Disney or Nintendo IP or you will get fucked

Lol

[magic river]

If THAT wasn't enough, Pixelmon also was found to be running malicious code within the mod itself, which granted the mod authors the ability to remotely shut down and blacklist servers that they didn't like.

When they were called out about this on youtube and other avenues, the mod authors had the GALL to issue DMCA takedown requests on youtube videos claiming COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT of all things! When they are clearly violating Nintendo's copyright all along!

Yikes

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/6n6zxc/minecraft_pixelmon_mod_development_is_ending/dk87dqp/

[quasi valley]

lmao

that's what you for using closed source mods

[worn ember]

kneny laughing behind our backs cuz he's not caught yet for backdooring via

[quasi valley]

I mean, there's a good chance there's some Via introduced exploit

[worn ember]

[quasi valley]

messing with plugin channels or something

[worn ember]

time to get my unlimited diamonds on hipickle

[quasi valley]

something like that was fixed a year ago where I think you could sneak around authme authentication

[worn ember]

oh wait, netherite is the cool stuff now right?

[zealous knot]

Tf is netherite

[quasi valley]

boomer alert?

[mental meadow]

boomer alert

[zealous knot]

What

[mental meadow]

netherite is used to upgrade diamond stuff

[zealous knot]

I am 24 years old

[mental meadow]

introduced in 1.16

[flat elm]

is paper 1.17 out?

[cinder inlet]

has anything changed with the “hey don’t play this as an actual server” thing?

[twin lagoon]

no

[cinder inlet]

darn

[mental meadow]

You can do whatever you want, but we expect those builds to still have issues for the next few days/weeks

like with every piece of software

[cinder inlet]

alright

[magic river]

They aren't known to eat your face but they might 😛

I'd at least wait until 1.17.1 builds, probably later this week

[wispy blade]

goes roughhousing with cousin
cousin: owwww she hurt me!!!!!

[meager tusk]

Cool story Naomi

Thanks for sharing

[wispy blade]

thanks bro

[meager tusk]

I love PaperMC

[wispy blade]

same

FeelsGoodMan

[quasi valley]

I don't

[meager tusk]

Ok

Thanks for Your Opinion on The Matter Kneny

[grand creek]

1.17 got released finally

it's a test but it's already something

Ty to the developers

[zealous knot]

Wtf

Another kenny

Hell no

[grand creek]

What's wrong

[zealous knot]

Too many kennies

[quasi valley]

the best kenny is someone named Kenny in Via. 80% of the time someone tries to ping me, they instead end up pinging him as my pingshield

[grand creek]

shut up, i'm the real one

[quasi valley]

[zealous knot]

What is real

[meager tusk]

Not kneny