general

[potent fossil]

fdisk -l shows attached block devices

[visual veldt]

i would assume running paper 1.17 version rn is a bad idea?

[frank otter]

depends

do you want it to work

[unreal quarry]

only if you dont like invisible chests that empty themselves

[brave radish]

not really; it just is a bad idea

the next build will be slightly better

[frank otter]

I mean, I'd run it and look for bogs if I had time

[brave radish]

*much better, actually

[frank otter]

what's the strangest bug so far

[brave radish]

The vines

[visual veldt]

I thot spigot released a full version of 1.17

[brave radish]

Blocks that get random-ticked would randomly place copies of themselves 64 blocks up (at least if I understood it right)

[visual veldt]

0.38% 4,044.97% 2.02 s 2,022.48 ms 0.0 0.0k World Save wtf does this mean

[frank otter]

that's like a low-effort dupe glitch

[vernal moth]

thats fixed

[brave radish]

but not in the dev build/experimental build/whatever

unless he updated it without an announcement

[unkempt drift]

no, the experimental build jar in #❗-1-17 hasnt been updated

[peak ginkgo]

Don't even use it yet there's a 1.17.1 coming out soon so no point imo lmao https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-1-17-1-pre-release-1

Unless you're a Developer building support for your plugins

[mental meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-its-happening-ok-stay-calm-the-office-gif-6091046

[void void]

Whats happening

[fallen oracle]

It's happening!

[void void]

What????

[mental meadow]

IT!

[waxen panther]

the thing

😳

[void void]

WHAT?

[fallen oracle]

It!

[void void]

Whats it!

Is it paper 1.17?

[potent fossil]

Nope

It!

[void void]

I'm confused

[left swift]

Hi confused I'm dad

[limber knot]

oh noes

[quasi valley]

properly available test builds

[left swift]

Are you available?

😳

[worn ember]

[mossy vessel]

Can I test them on my production server?

[quasi valley]

I thought testing is always done in production?

like HBO's integration test mail to all customers

[worn ember]

yes

was that the missile one?

[quasi valley]

https://twitter.com/HBOMaxHelp/status/1405712235108917249

HBOMaxHelp (@HBOMaxHelp)

We mistakenly sent out an empty test email to a portion of our HBO Max mailing list this evening. We apologize for the inconvenience, and as the jokes pile in, yes, it was the intern. No, really. And we’re helping them through it. ❤️

Retweets

9878

Likes

138520

Twitter · Jun 18, 2021, 2:21 AM

[mental meadow]

god that felt good

[void void]

pog

[charred widget]

PAPER POG

[meager tusk]

PAPER !

[left swift]

Oh no

[grand pewter]

ignoring the warning

[mossy vessel]

@void void where do I find this paper?

[void void]

can't wait, although 1.17 unstable af

[acoustic seal]

suddenly new person 👀

[mossy vessel]

???

[left swift]

The flood

[void void]

Hooray! I can stop using Spigot!

[eternal acorn]

Thank you lassies ❤️

[void void]

no

[austere ivy]

paper 1.17 kinda pog ngl

[void void]

it ran fine on my 2009 desktop used as a server machine

[void void]

I know, paper patches shit, but it doesnt make it fully stable

and that's spigot

[brave radish]

haha I put the first reaction

[void void]

I'm talking 'bout normal spigot

[potent fossil]

Wow.

[mental meadow]

!ban @void void transphobia

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned Manius#1705 (transphobia) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.

[void void]

Let alone Paper.

[potent fossil]

hugs aurora

[dry lion]

hype

[left swift]

Welp that only took 1 minute before wholesomeness turned sour

[dull linden]

ayyy congrats guys and to all who contributed!

[snow crescent]

get fucking rekt 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️

[autumn fern]

gg devs

[void void]

Can I like

just compile paper from github

and use it now?

[dull linden]

celebration

[random tide]

Great job Paper team for all of your hard work!! 🙌 🙌

[snow crescent]

if you have to ask that question system32 you probably shouldn't

[grand pewter]

you can always compile paper from github

[void void]

IK but like

[harsh frost]

wait paper mc 1.17 stable build is out??

[void void]

is it the first build

[craggy nest]

AGRESSIVLY REFRESHES APEX

[snow crescent]

Just wait for the build on the website

[cosmic raft]

lol "9200"

[mental meadow]

stable is a relative term

[void void]

#announcements practically yes

[harsh frost]

YESSIRRR

[worn ember]

werent we at 10k at some point?

[harsh frost]

ily devs

[void void]

Want to update mah server

[cosmic raft]

"9200" ok discord

https://i.imgur.com/1KxDIr2.png

[blazing quarry]

congratulations folks

[mental meadow]

You will be able to download it from our homepage in a few minutes

[meager tusk]

Click prune you won't.

[worn ember]

lmao

[void void]

swapping the jar so Pl3xmap works again

[vernal moth]

oh shit we did grew like crazy

[snow crescent]

paper pog

[void void]

Did this bot deleted all of the banned user messages?

[snow crescent]

[worn ember]

yes

[craggy nest]

Personally, gonna download after a few hours because of site traffic

[blazing quarry]

try not to crash the homepage guys

[craggy nest]

yeah

[worn ember]

oops

[blazing quarry]

only refesh the page twice per second

[granite axle]

does this release move to mojmap?

[waxen panther]

At dev time yes

Runtime is still fucked spigot maps

[craggy nest]

Frick I was going 17

[worn ember]

[granite axle]

:(

[hearty compass]

Prune da members

[worn ember]

fix wen????

[hearty compass]

Lol

[craggy nest]

this is what 1.8 has been preparing us for

[granite axle]

step in the right direction though!

[ashen flint]

pog

[icy kelp]

thank you paper team

[ashen flint]

smp will finally start

[craggy nest]

yeah u da best

[meager tusk]

aw man :(

[visual veldt]

so happy now

[potent fossil]

:p

[visual veldt]

spigot is shit

paper is the goat

[void void]

not me refreshing the papermc.io website constantly

[visual veldt]

^^

[void void]

finally having the ability to throw the BuildTools jar in the bin again

based

[late atlas]

Thank you to everyone who worked and helped on the paper build.

[void void]

this

[oblique plinth]

When is paper 1.17 coming out

[visual veldt]

any minute

[oblique plinth]

wut

[remote aspen]

What does this mean for paper 1.17 i dont understand all this weird stuff about servers

[deep juniper]

#announcements Good job, PaperMC team, with the 1.17 update! I am proud of you all, and also proud of the kind community who supports our developers in some way or other. 😄

[remote aspen]

im talking about the message in announcement

[potent fossil]

Guys they are actively working on updating the site, chill out

Wait just a bit longer

[oblique plinth]

O

any expected date

[potent fossil]

Today

[oblique plinth]

O

Are u serious?

1.17

[potent fossil]

Deep breaths, patience

Yes, see #announcements

[oblique plinth]

[meager tusk]

Go away WEEB.

[acoustic seal]

@upper flicker 🌮

[remote aspen]

I dont understand the message in announcements

[upper flicker]

[civic socket]

.eta

[limber knot]

(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785

[fallen oracle]

Mfw you rely on the site to give you the jars. Smh.

[civic socket]

bruh

[potent fossil]

Paper is merged to master, meaning it will soon be released. The website needs to be updated for jar downloads. Just wait. Relax. Calm. Let the zen take you.

[deep juniper]

I'm sorry if you hate me, but unfortunately for you, I am here to stay. 😉

[potent fossil]

That's what it means.

[vernal moth]

teamcity is trying its best

[meager tusk]

Shhhh WEEB.

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/UuBSFp2.png

[plain thunder]

ayoooo 1.17 release?

ooooo

[waxen panther]

Shut up do not insult my fiancé

[viscid remnant]

@mental meadow hows your day going?

[void void]

not me compiling the jar

[viscid remnant]

busy day huh

[void void]

So many people got banned for transphobia

[mental meadow]

it's fun

[meager tusk]

You know for someone named Broccoli you need to touch some GRASS

[viscid remnant]

that's good to hear aurora

what's your plan for today?

[mental meadow]

wait until it is time to go to bed and then go to bed and try not to melt

[viscid remnant]

also i love your banner 😂

[young tendon]

wait until it is time to go to bed and then go to bed
Me when I have nothing to do all day

[mental meadow]

https://auri.gay/top-secret

[viscid remnant]

oh boy. Try to get some rest. I bet its been a stressful day for ya lol

[waxen panther]

lowercase b

[civic socket]

can i have eta now?

[waxen panther]

no

[wooden isle]

Where can I get 1.17?

[meager tusk]

Ok

[viscid remnant]

Be patient lmao

[brave radish]

You have to compile it yourself at the moment

[viscid remnant]

its gonna be available soon

[void void]

you guys are very pog

[oblique plinth]

will 1.17 arrive within week papaer

[viscid remnant]

I think he needs to know how to compile

[left swift]

bROCCOLAI needs touch grASS

[civic socket]

i think by tomorrow

[jovial glacier]

compiling my own server's jar seems faster lol

[waxen panther]

i hate all of u, except paper-chan

[meager tusk]

TALK TO HIM ❗

[potent fossil]

idriz not me????

WTF

do not hate me .

[meager tusk]

Simple you're the best .

[waxen panther]

obviously, ci's dont usually have great cpu's lol

[potent fossil]

thank u

[ashen cliff]

Bro.

[void void]

Well, this is disappointing.

[remote aspen]

I have no idea what that means but i assume its bad

[meager tusk]

Most successful W*sterner when compiling Paper

[void void]

I just used /gradlew build

as usual

[waxen panther]

./gradlew applyPatches

and then ./gradlew paperclipJar

[void void]

thanks sir

[spark moth]

won't
./gradlew applyPatches
./gradlew paperclipJar
be the best

extactly

[deep juniper]

I'm not sure if you should be saying that towards the PaperMC community, as many of these people seem to be nice and always hoping for the best to the Paper software! ...Thank you for your love, though. 😳 ❤️

[viscid remnant]

^^

[potent fossil]

you should be using the paper tool, not gradle directly

the scripts exist for a reason

[meager tusk]

And what if I want to use gradle directly, simple?

Hm?

[potent fossil]

then do all the commands the paper tool does

[waxen panther]

gradle is the paper tool wdym lol

[brave radish]

and the result will be in libs

[acoustic seal]

@slim nymph I opened timings PR pls respond ❤️

[left swift]

Damn bROCCOLAI in trouble with the wifey

[mental meadow]

there is no more paper tool

[vernal moth]

there is no paper tool anymore simple, lol

[potent fossil]

oh lol

[mental meadow]

gradlew is the paper tool

[waxen panther]

she hates me too man sadge

[potent fossil]

okay ignore me, im out of date

[left swift]

[void void]

Let's see if this works

[meager tusk]

🙏

[keen sable]

Why did you switch from maven

[spark moth]

//Clone
git clone https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper.git
//Go to Folder
cd Paper
//Copy gradle.properties with more ram
cp gradle.properties Paper/gradle.properties
//Apply Patches
./gradlew applyPatches
//create PaperClip
./gradlew paperclipJar
//Create Local Dep
java -Dpaperclip.install=true -jar Paper/build/libs/Paper-1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar

would be my approach, not sure if anything changed

[mental meadow]

gradle faster

[meager tusk]

gradle zoom

[keen sable]

Fair enough

Autocorrect

[waxen panther]

maven is dogshit

[mental meadow]

I hate gradle too but it's faster

[vernal moth]

what do you do to the gradle properties?

[wooden isle]

wheres the download

[meager tusk]

You are entitled to your wrong opinion

[void void]

I literally did nothing

lmfao

Just did git clone (the link of the .zip)

and cd /Paper/

and ./gradlew build

but that was wrong

[spark moth]

org.gradle.jvmargs = -Xmx9G
Only, copying a whole new file is a bad approach probably, should just add a new line, but made this script pretty fast cause i'm lazy

[void void]

apparently

[waxen panther]

You have to up the gradle memory otherwise it errors, it did for me at least, You can set your gradle properties globally though

[void void]

so now ill try the other proposed way of doing it 😎

[winged loom]

I'm getting mixed messages here - is this latest build "Time to release on https://papermc.io/downloads" ready, or is it not that ready yet? (i.e. by "Soon" did you mean "As soon as we can physically do it" or "As soon as the build is more stable"?)

[fallen oracle]

I just ./gradlew cleanCache && ./gradlew applyPatches && ./gradlew paperclipJar though I think the last task might run the apply task.

[spark moth]

true

[mental meadow]

soon as "within the next few minutes"

[void void]

so within 24 hours

[mental meadow]

something around that 😄

[deep juniper]

I look cute in here! 😊

[void void]

oh shit my laptop is lagging now, have never had it before since i purchased it

[waxen panther]

like always

[void void]

''build successful''

BASED

[crystal compass]

Is there gonna be an announcement when the builds are deemed "production ready"?

[meager tusk]

Congratulations BRO.

[void void]

now lets do ./gradlew paperclipJar

[left swift]

[void void]

and after that update mah server

ahem AFTER TAKING A BACKUP ahem

[pallid edge]

the artifacts cannot be downloaded from github actions?

[void void]

Command sync alternative ?

[civic socket]

hella ppl be duping in spigot 1.17, i hope u guys patched them

[void void]

[void void]

lol what

[opaque frigate]

maybe the battery is low or the thermal paste is dry

[civic socket]

yes

[void void]

the lag was temporary, and I bought it just a few months ago lmao

[meager tusk]

report them plz

[void void]

it's a M1 MacBook Pro

the fans didnt even turn on

[crystal compass]

Just use rsnapshot and take auto backups every 24h

[opaque frigate]

OH GOD

[void void]

no, ssd of server is 120 gb, map is 30 gb

lmao

[spark moth]

meanwhile, my PC fans running at 2,7k rpm

[crystal compass]

Ouch

[void void]

It's a fucking amazing device

never fails on me

[lapis olive]

@open sandal yo

[meager tusk]

M1s are good

[spark moth]

yeah

[meager tusk]

I'm waiting on the new gen tho

[spark moth]

M1's are pretty awesome

[void void]

I bought the MBP because ''fan''

but ''fan'' never turned on before

at least, not to the extent that I can hear it, unlike the 2019 MBP which was a literal windturbine

[peak ginkgo]

https://u.dejay.dev/🐾🙊🦡.png

I love that you guys used a big commit

🥺

[fallen oracle]

Woot. API is out.

[void void]

fake

[meager tusk]

ya think?

[deep juniper]

Please do not send Nitro links in the general chat, as there are Discord bots who automatically claim them!

[opaque frigate]

very fake

[magic river]

Paper (and Spigot) don't really have "production ready" builds

[spark moth]

my 2018 MBP is even a greater wind turbine

[void void]

disappointing

[void void]

lol

butterfly kb sucks, thats why i sold my 2019 one

[civic socket]

he himself dont have nitro how he gift? lol

[magic river]

Every build is usually better than the last and eventually they're good enough for you to risk it

When that happens is up to you at this point 😛

[spark moth]

epci games discord

[void void]

actually, the butterfly keys broke down

[viral ruin]

I wonder how you guys learned how to get the jar file from grabl, cant find anything on google 😮

[deep juniper]

Unfortunately, some people have ill intents. So you should send those kind of links through DMs instead!

[void void]

didnt feel like getting a repair

just flipped it for 700 euros

bought it for 1300

[spark moth]

i still have a free nitro link for 3 months, can't activate for myself cause i'm an early supporter

[meager tusk]

waiting for intellij to import paper ⌚

[void void]

used it for like a year

[meager tusk]

takes a few years

[void void]

I like compiled the thing right

but there is no jar

confused

[civic socket]

i wanted to ask a question how did spigot launched 1.17 this much earlier than paper?|

[broken rampart]

@ancient bolt get a patreon/sponsors hoe

[twin lagoon]

because spigot has the advantage of updating with snapshots

[meager tusk]

mojang mappings are gonna make it a lot more fun to work on paper patches 😄

[quasi valley]

and because spigot has like -5 patches

[civic socket]

oh

[waxen panther]

Paper has to wait for spigot to release before they can start

[quasi valley]

that don't really do all that much

[spark moth]

^

[blazing quarry]

hey guys im unable to edit my disk from ftp does anybody know how to give permission

[spark moth]

Used Spigot 1.17 first to update one of my big plugins, there i realised how important paper is for my plugins

[visual veldt]

Spigot is terrible.

[spark moth]

Still had like 500 errors to fix whic hwere paper dependend

[void void]

the jar is nowhere to be found

disappointed

[brave radish]

look in the libs folder

[fair blade]

what did you stream on twitch? coding?

[sudden mirage]

[spark moth]

was an old script i used when Paper 1.17 was still in very early dev, something could've changed

[brave radish]

oops

[twin lagoon]

paper-server/build/libs

[brave radish]

build/libs

[void void]

Paper 1.17 is almost here I'm so excited

[civic socket]

same

[void void]

BASED

[fair blade]

can I have the twitch link?

[wise harness]

do we have a release time?

[void void]

N o

[twin lagoon]

twitch.tv/amouranth

[void void]

It's the ''Paper-Server-1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-mojang-mapped.jar'' right?

[fair blade]

ty

[wise harness]

no to me?

[brave radish]

no, one sec I'll build it cuz I forgot the name

[twin lagoon]

i was joking

there is no stream

[potent fossil]

I wish discord would add a popup when sending a nitro gift in a public channel warning users that there may be (more like probably are) nitro harvesting bots present and to instead send it in DM or something, with a button to override if they wish

[twin lagoon]

1.17 is done why would there be a stream

[fair blade]

bruh then what did they mean in the accouncement

[twin lagoon]

read?

[void void]

So it is the Paper-Server-1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-mojang-mapped.jar jar

it works

on private console

based, thanks micheal.

[magic river]

The mojang mapped one won't work with plugins

[twin lagoon]

nah that's the mojang mapped one

need the paperclip jar

no idea where that one is though

[void void]

there are only two jars.

[void void]

Uh oh.

[potent panther]

1.17 is java 16?

[tame pendant]

the mojang mapped one would work though, right?

[twin lagoon]

technically yes

[twin lagoon]

yes

[magic river]

If all of your plugins only use the Bukkit API the mojang mapped one would work fine

[void void]

there is a reobf jar

[deep juniper]

Yes! You will need Java 16 to run the new 1.17 version of Minecraft.

[void void]

and a mojang mapped jar

[twin lagoon]

.java16

[limber knot]

Follow the guide for how to update to Java 16 here: https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/java-update/index.html

[magic river]

Since basically no plugins are like that anymore it won't work if you have plugins

[meager tusk]

Is that MICHALE .

[void void]

So, is it like, Paper-Server-reobf.jar then?

[twin lagoon]

Idriz! Bro!

[tame pendant]

ah ok

[twin lagoon]

my guy i have no idea i don't plan on using anything besides the mojang mapped one

[visual veldt]

wait r u guys saying plugins wont work w the new paper jar?

[twin lagoon]

they will

[void void]

[dapper rose]

[magic river]

They'll work with the paperclip jar but not if you build it yourself and use the mojang mapped one

[twin lagoon]

"fatal not a git repository"

[meager tusk]

Did you clone the repo?

[tropic flame]

I see people are getting confused with this new mojmap jar lol

[brave radish]

They will just not a specific one that person asked about

[dapper rose]

yes

[twin lagoon]

you didn't

[meager tusk]

you did not clone that repo

[twin lagoon]

you downloaded it from github

[meager tusk]

lol

[twin lagoon]

you didn't clone it

[pallid edge]

What about plugins messing with packets or using protocollib?

[magic river]

You should probably just wait for the build to show up on the download page

[waxen panther]

average windows user

[mental meadow]

It will be on the downloads page soon

[magic river]

It's just a matter of waiting for the CI to finish building it

[void void]

I was hoping I could compile it so I could do a quick update before I was going to watch a series with the family

:p

[magic river]

CI is kind of slow, give it a few more minutes 😛

[meager tusk]

I use arch btw

And I write rust

On vim

[void void]

whats a CI

i feel stupid

[wise harness]

do we have a specific time or do we all have to fall off our chairs

[magic river]

Build server

[void void]

Oh.

[brave radish]

build/libs/Paper-1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar system32

[mental meadow]

within a few minutes

[visual veldt]

@mental meadow Appreciate it very much! Paper is GOD!

[void void]

https://tenor.com/view/starship-troopers-yes-sir-salute-thank-you-sir-gif-15749283

[wise harness]

a few minutes!

u guys are speedy

[plucky sparrow]

ETA for when I'm getting my intelligence back?

[peak ginkgo]

Sending the entire paper team with a sponsor link $15 each on github this coming week

It's not a lot but money gets expensive

[void void]

fspigot is cringe

[wise harness]

i agree with the following...

spigot is like paper got literately ripped to peices

[visual veldt]

xD

[void void]

server is booting

using paper

BASED

[spiral robin]

.startmc

[limber knot]

https://startmc.sh

[spiral robin]

[mental meadow]

❤️

[void void]

based

[plucky sparrow]

Damn M1 only 50 fps

[void void]

i installed a cap

[plucky sparrow]

ohhh okay

[void void]

if i remove the cap it gets around 70 on 4K-60

[plucky sparrow]

It seemed weird

[void void]

with fancy settings

one question tho

why is the paper /tps not fancy anymore

[wise harness]

wait is 1.17 paper out?

[nova plume]

Almost

[spiral robin]

Did you ignore the announcement

[wise harness]

no i just dont own a brain

[mental meadow]

I pinged everyone!

[spiral robin]

Aurora hello

[deep juniper]

system32 simply compiled a build for themselves. 😉

[void void]

yes.

[spiral robin]

Send cute snap

[twin lagoon]

pinged everyone too early ngl

[void void]

I compiled the jar 🙂

It works.

[dapper rose]

1kb?

🥲

[void void]

Can I send it here or is that considered

illegal

[twin lagoon]

just don't

[brave radish]

The paperclip jar is legal

but yeah don't

[wise harness]

to jail with him

[mental meadow]

I wasn't expecting that lol

[void void]

this made no sense tho

(yes it loaded successfully)

[deep juniper]

I think it's better to lead people to the official means of obtaining the jar. In other terms: they can wait just a bit longer.

[void void]

When a plugin uses NMS 😢

[young tendon]

when the graph of progress looks like a square wave...

[viral ruin]

BuT wAiTiNg Is HaRd

[viral ruin]

hahahahahhaah cant wait

[tropic flame]

lmao me when I run a server in my potato computer with a miserable 512mb of ram allocated

[void void]

my server runs on a desktop from 2009

i just optimised the fuck out of the machine

and installed an ssd

[tropic flame]

my CPU's from 2004

[livid bolt]

Should i use the new paper on my small smp yet or is it too early?

[wise harness]

hehe the mans server has dust particles on it

[void void]

i swapped the hdd for an ssd obviously

[plain thunder]

well since it's pushed to master, i assume it's safe (enough) to use, but probably should update as soon as any new fixes are pushed

[void void]

though it's a cheap SSD

Kingston 120 GB

very shitty, but it works.

[livid bolt]

Ok, ty

[void void]

If it works, it works.

[wise harness]

if it dosnt we all die

[plain thunder]

kingfast 240gb is cheap, not shitty tho

[wise harness]

back to stupid spigot 😦

[deep juniper]

#announcements says that these are not yet production-ready builds, and are meant for testing. With that being said, if you insist in updating, you should make regular backups of your server!

[jovial glacier]

my server was already glitching from spigot maxing my ram, so anything is better than that lol

[void void]

this one was 20 euros back then

[jovial glacier]

there was some hard crashes

[void void]

spigot works barely on the 2009 intel machine

for obvious reasons

it works, but it's meh.

[plain thunder]

the kingfast 240gb is 30 euros

xd

[wise harness]

somone @ me when its out im tired and need to sleeep

[visual veldt]

yep ive been running spigot and its terrible

[void void]

Paper 1.13.2 was able to run on an Athlon XII dual core, 2GB ram with 5 players online generating chunks though

i used to use that shit machine

[deep juniper]

Have a good night!

[wise harness]

system 32 ur getting swapped for system 64 for windows 11 xD

[waxen panther]

🥺

[void void]

Lol, I don't use Windows anymore.

[jolly palm]

how do I get the download for 1.17 paper?

[nova plume]

Wait

[jolly palm]

I thought they released it

[wise harness]

stare at ur celing for a bit

[void void]

Have Ubuntu Server on my ''server'' desktop, have macOS Big Sur on my Mac (obviously), have iOS 14 on my iPhone 12 mini

[jovial glacier]

wait or build it yourself

[unique ledge]

if you have to ask you probably shouldnt run it tbh

[kindred crater]

"will soon be available on our homepage."

[void void]

depends

if you ask questions about how to compile

[kindred crater]

not "available immediately"

[void void]

you learn from it

asking questions is good

[jolly palm]

I like this man

[unique ledge]

im dumb so im just gonna wait for it to show up in my panel

[jolly palm]

lmao

[mental meadow]

The build is now in the API

[night lion]

https://papermc.io/api/v2/projects/paper/versions/1.17/builds/4/downloads/paper-1.17-4.jar

[restive saffron]

Nah, i compiled spigot 1.17 and it was easy. Just first time doing it, give them a chance.

[night lion]

:o

[restive saffron]

it was first time compiling server jar for myself

[oblique plinth]

Death is Inevitable

[toxic ivy]

i just got a push notificication from microsoft about windows 11

[peak ginkgo]

https://u.dejay.dev/🌾🐰😹.png

its beautiful

[blazing quarry]

i cannot edit my disk via sftp does anybody know how to give permission

[viral ruin]

@night lion Mhmm is that legit?

[night lion]

Yes, lmao.

[peak ginkgo]

Yes

[restive saffron]

\yes guys i hacked the papermc.io server just to put a virus on everyone's computer

[peak ginkgo]

@blazing quarry Your user doesn't have access to edit the file in question most liikely

[deep juniper]

Yes! It is a link from the PaperMC website itself, using the web API they provide.

[restive saffron]

aka, that link is trusted

[blazing quarry]

do you know what command i can run to give access

[unique ledge]

hacker

[viral ruin]

Yeah sorry just wanted to be sure, you know, clicking link on internet x)

[blazing quarry]

i can access it using ssh but not sftp

[peak ginkgo]

This server is running Paper version git-Paper-"3d43c5e" (MC: 1.17) (Implementing API version 1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT)

im crying

[restive saffron]

Fair enough, better safe than sorry.

[deep juniper]

We understand. 😄

[restive saffron]

@deep juniper mic up

[viral ruin]

so thats the latest release in the master branch?

if so thanks! I'll install

[restive saffron]

Paper-chan was meta

[blazing quarry]

it just says Error: mkdir /home/opc/murucraft/survival: permission denied

[wispy blade]

sudo mkdir

xd

[brave radish]

nooo

[peak ginkgo]

If you're signed in as the opc user

chown -R opc:opc murucraft

[brave radish]

do not sudo mkdir in a home folder lol
that reaks of doing something wrong

[deep juniper]

fun fact: https://destroystokyo.com/api/v2/projects/paper/versions/1.17/builds/4/downloads/paper-1.17-4.jar also works! Since destroystokyo.com was the old domain, which simply redirects to papermc.io now. The OGs surely remember. 😉

[vernal moth]

lets not use the old domain tho

[pulsar tide]

i am happiness

thank you martin

[blazing quarry]

Thank you so much @peak ginkgo it worked

[pulsar tide]

and the whole team

[robust cave]

.eta

[limber knot]

(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785

[potent fossil]

lol

[vernal moth]

https://papermc.io/downloads

[pulsar tide]

pfft

[vernal moth]

control + f5

[pulsar tide]

imagine no eta

bad

[brave radish]

lol I love that commit list

[blazing quarry]

you do control + f5 dude? i do f5 only

[peak ginkgo]

Control F5 is a cache refresh

[viral ruin]

refresh papermc!

its there

[blazing quarry]

oH

[deep juniper]

Sure, perhaps I should have phrased it better. Still an iconic domain, though.

[potent fossil]

bibliothek is about to get pounded hard

[blazing quarry]

Cache refresh

[potent fossil]

[olive marlin]

@mental meadow I have no idea how you did it, but you made Discord send me an email, despite me having them disabled and seeing the announcement earlier on my phone...

[potent fossil]

actually no, CF will I guess

[blazing quarry]

Soo it still isn't for production servers?

[potent fossil]

these are test builds

[brave radish]

not really

[blazing quarry]

oh ok

[peak ginkgo]

Your alt got a notification and it's never logged into the Mobile app

[blazing quarry]

in the small period i've been active here i've changed from server.pro to a free server on oracle and gotten loads of help with linux OS

[void void]

1.17 is here yayayaya

[blazing quarry]

what a helpful community

[olive marlin]

LMAO. I joined it here only to test warship when it started failing and forget to leave.

[deep juniper]

I'm glad you're happy with PaperMC, and I hope we can help you further in future projects of yours. 😄

[toxic ore]

THE ADMINS ARE HAPPY TODAY

[placid thicket]

i like to live dangerously

[brave radish]

uh-oh

🙈

[tropic flame]

you sure do know what's good tho, destroystokyo ftw

[blazing quarry]

me too

time to crash a server

[wise harness]

when will it come out on pebblehost?

[vapid spoke]

#❗-1-17 just moved to archive

[peak ginkgo]

Ask pebblehost lol

[brave radish]

Ask Pebblehost

[placid thicket]

did you really just ask a first party when a third party will get off their ass?

[vapid spoke]

holy your badges

[glass delta]

sheeesh

[vapid spoke]

daaaang

[lament patio]

You can just upload your own JAR there

[urban swift]

Seems a bit harsh to tell a company to get off their ass when it's been downloadable for about 30 seconds 🤔

[placid thicket]

i should clarify that my experience with them has been anything but timely

however you are correct

[subtle wasp]

If I was them I wouldn't even upload an experimental build like this, however many times you tell people something will more than likely break their server people still come back bitching to you

[placid thicket]

also true

[deep juniper]

Hosting services should get around to uploading the builds as soon as capitalism and the flow of cash into their bank accounts allow. Please be patient. 😂

[placid thicket]

i mean, if they are doing it properly, their build system should just auto update

[magic river]

Paper-chan sounds like a cat

[deep juniper]

... Am I saying "nyaa" a lot inbetween my sentences? 😳 I can't really notice that on me, though.

[north crest]

[void void]

Now my question is what is saver to use paper 1.17 or spigot 1.17

[placid thicket]

neither

hell, vanilla aint safe

[void void]

I use 1.17 already lol

[subtle wasp]

Stick with Spigot on a prod server

For now*

[placid thicket]

dont use either in prod, both are still unstable af

[twin lagoon]

a prod server shouldn't be running 1.17 in first place

[placid thicket]

^

[subtle wasp]

this

[brave radish]

says the person named flanigomik (1.17#4)(prod)

[unkempt basin]

se if you can see the builds on waterfall i can not se the builds

[left swift]

Do as I say not as I do bro

[merry talon]

you guys switched to teamcity?

[peak ginkgo]

dejay@desktop MINGW64 /d/mc/test-server
$ ./start.sh
Server > Updating to Paper 4...
Server > Starting!
Downloading vanilla jar...
Patching vanilla jar...
System Info: Java 16 (OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 16.0.1+9) Host: Windows 10 10.0 (amd64)
Loading libraries, please wait...

[magic river]

lol, my hack message is still in there

It's not even actually loading libraries, it's just log4j scanning your entire classpath

[placid thicket]

exactly this

[magic river]

I put that message in because otherwise the server appeared to do nothing for 5-10 seconds, zero output after starting it

[mental meadow]

yea

Jenkins is....well...

[merry talon]

Jenkins

[restive saffron]

i love testing paper 1.17 with graalvm

[merry talon]

any reason you don't just use the GH actions build?

[limber knot]

Have not payed attention, how much has changed from 1.16 on the plugin side? Want to know how much work I'll have to do to update my plugins.

[magic river]

spigot changed all the NMS stuff

[vernal moth]

we changed the group name

[magic river]

So you have to redo all of that

Different package names and no more field names

[restive saffron]

CTRL + F baby

[limber knot]

Doesn't NMS always get changed every version basically? Luckily have not had to do much with it.

[magic river]

This isn't just obfuscated names shuffling or something

He switched to the mojang package structure but kept the spigot class names

And fields don't get any names anymore, they're all obfuscated

[limber knot]

Ahhhh

[magic river]

So just because something had a real name before doesn't mean it's fine now, you have to update everything

[merry talon]

that seems... suboptimal

[tropic flame]

yeah it makes no sense

[limber knot]

Thanks for the inofrmation, I better get to work -.-

[tropic flame]

it should be either fully switching to mojmap or not switch at all lmfao

[merry talon]

1.18 hard fork?

[tropic flame]

[foggy veldt]

Pog I can finally use discord again

[restive saffron]

GitHub Actions vs Jenkins

[foggy veldt]

I got stuck in a crash loop from having it on #announcements

[karmic harness]

Lol why would I want this if I bought a Tesla M6 for $120 USD lol

[wind mason]

Is it bad I'm using 1.17 on my prod server 👀

whoops

[merry talon]

is this supposed to be a question

actions is the answer

most of the time

[foggy veldt]

Not if you don’t come back complaining if your world gets corrupted

[wind mason]

The world didn't get corrupted

[potent fossil]

But IF it does, you can't complain to us

[void void]

So you're telling us to use it on production? Trolololololol

[potent fossil]

There is a big fat warning saying don't, and if you do to take backups

So if you ignore that, that's on you

That's all

[void void]

https://tenor.com/view/supernatural-castiel-angel-angelboy-ill-be-back-gif-12553780

[remote aspen]

Where did the 1.17 channel go

[olive marlin]

Do I use 1.17 in production? Absolutely!
Do I use it on an important production server? Hell no!

It was archived.

[restive saffron]

yes

but thanks

but i wonder why use jenkins over github actions
because thats what most of the community seems to do

[meager tusk]

No to both. I'm running 1.5.2.

[void void]

Probably because thats just how its been for so long?

Once you get used to things sometimes its annoying to move away.

[foggy veldt]

Jenkins free download/self host, GitHub actions cost money

[void void]

Jenkins has also been around longer, right?

[void void]

Does it? How much do actions cost? I've been using actions to do simple stuff with no cost, I assume they charge if you use more computing power?

[restive saffron]

yes but it costs money after a specific amount of time done compiling and such from what i hear

[brave radish]

Actions is free in public repos

You get 2,000 minutes (on Linux) a month free in private and it's paid after that

[foggy veldt]

https://docs.github.com/en/billing/managing-billing-for-github-actions/about-billing-for-github-actions

[tropic flame]

GitHub Actions always deploy artifacts inside zip files, which is not ideal for the downloads page if the developers want the jars to be downloadable directly instead

[karmic harness]

My system is supposed to take backups every 24 hours. But who knows if that's working or not. lol I hope I fixed it. : /

[potent fossil]

Are you not validating your backup plan

[karmic harness]

So if I got 1.17 paper, lol.

lmao

idk

[brave radish]

You could technically upload it as a release each time and bypass that

[tropic flame]

• any edit to the github actions files means a new commit, which means a new build, even though it contains no changes to the server itself

[foggy veldt]

Paper-1.17-ae5cue.jar

[restive saffron]

cant you just do a if statement to that

[restive saffron]

thats a problem for sure

[brave radish]

yeah

I have mine set to only run if the commit message contains [build]

[restive saffron]

if commit message starts with [ci-skip] boom

[foggy veldt]

Apparently there is a storage limit, is that for upload-artifact?

[tropic flame]

also the cache size is limited to 5GB, if you use the cache task (at which point it will start randomly deleting artifacts)

if you don't use the cache task though then it's a 10+ minute build for each commit

[restive saffron]

The more you know

[brave radish]

There is no storage limit for Actions artifacts that I know of

there is some confusing thing though that makes it sound like there is

[tropic flame]

it's just better for them to have their own CI really

[brave radish]

Though Paper does have actions build things anyway just to check if they build

[tropic flame]

(it's just a shame it's not publicly accessible anymore though)

[vernal moth]

actions downloads are authenticated only

[brave radish]

unless you upload them somewhere else which is a pain

[void void]

Thank you paper

Spigot ram: 4,56 / 5,00
Paper ram 2.56 / 5,00

[foggy veldt]

I wonder what the update to 1.18 will be like for the people who used the experimental data pack

[void void]

I bet they'll have to delete their worlds.

[languid orbit]

build # 5 is stable ?

[brave radish]

no

[fallen oracle]

#announcements

[hidden ginkgo]

do we think its going to be out today ?

[fallen oracle]

Do we think what is?

[placid thicket]

not supported as far as we know

[brave radish]

There is a build out already, just not stable

[vernal moth]

most likely break

[hidden ginkgo]

paper 1.17

[cedar spade]

It

[fallen oracle]

It's already out.

[wind mason]

Seems stable to me

[fallen oracle]

They just aren't suggested to use in production.

[wind mason]

I have no issues

[brave radish]

.downloads - clear your cache/force reload if you don't see it

[limber knot]

https://papermc.io/downloads

[brave radish]

but, again, unstable

[foggy veldt]

How long have you been running it

[placid thicket]

you have no issues after 15 minutes on one system. that means its stable

[wind mason]

Spigot for 3 days and paper for just a few hours

[hidden ginkgo]

build 5 right

[wind mason]

Yes

[ivory radish]

40s to start server 😬

[nova plume]

The compiled jar is .\Paper\build\libs\Paper-1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar right?

[ivory radish]

Yes

[brave radish]

yes

[wind mason]

Idk bro

[tropic flame]

1 day later: fixed issue where the spawning of a second ender dragon at the end would cause the server to delete all chunk files from the world

[nova plume]

Safe

How did a question mark get there tho

Lol

[brave radish]

idk; your brain, not mine 🙂

[nova plume]

Yes my brain dies

[ivory radish]

Could be a typo ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[foggy veldt]

Few hours testing is cool until someone is able to crash your server by right clicking an axolotl with a bucket

[tropic flame]

ikr

[placid thicket]

or a lightning storm corrupts chunks

lots of stuff that can happen

[tropic flame]

fixed issue where player logging in with a stick on their hands with knockback V will crash the operating system

just imagine

[placid thicket]

fixed issue where playing game will speed up heat death of universe

[nova plume]

And whats with the size difference between .\Paper\build\libs\Paper-1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar and .\Paper\Paper-Server\build\libs\*.jar

[ivory radish]

?

[nova plume]

Sixe

Size*

[brave radish]

Paperclip vs Paper

[nova plume]

Ight thx

[ivory radish]

Oh just realised the directories are different 😂

[brave radish]

use \Paper\build\libs\Paper-1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar

[ivory radish]

I mean from the message the person sent

[honest quartz]

i exist

[brave radish]

k

[twin lagoon]

the fuck

[cosmic raft]

?

[twin lagoon]

vscode

[meager tusk]

It's literally on every folder I open

[vernal moth]

IJ does that too

[twin lagoon]

[meager tusk]

So annoying lol

[cosmic raft]

yea IntelliJ does that too

[vernal moth]

cause they have been build tool exploits

so extra secure now

no, not yet

[cosmic raft]

I'm happy to see those options myself

means I can import plugin projects to browse

:p

not just gradle

[upper flicker]

thankfully you can just mark a common parent folder as trusted

[fading rune]

i can't wait for 1.17 Paper

bc of many bug fixes

[cosmic raft]

test builds are available on our website

[fading rune]

i know

[cosmic raft]

do not use them on your server without making backups

[fading rune]

but it broke my server xd

[potent fossil]

lol.

[tropic flame]

[upper eagle]

Who owns PaperMC btw

[fading rune]

like it worked, but it destroyed half of my Plugins

[potent fossil]

It's a test build. This is to be expected.

[fading rune]

yeah

it was kinda funny

[vernal moth]

please report issues on gh, not here

[tame pendant]

it only destroyed libsdisguises for me :)

[fading rune]

nah it was my fault of issues

[brave radish]

No one "owns it," but the people with the most power are the blue people at the top of the sidebar

[viscid wedge]

Was your only problem plugin incompatibilities?

[potent fossil]

Man, developing on WSL is starting to piss me off. Like, what do I even do with this shit? https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Mediumslateblue-Americanwarmblood-5f.png

WHAT requirement, gradle?

[fading rune]

yeah

and client laggs

but it was my pc

[upper eagle]

Oh I meant like the server itself mb

[brave radish]

The Discord?

[upper eagle]

Ye

I do know nobody ‘owns’ it and that it’s a collaborative effort ofc

Which is poggers

Salud

[brave radish]

I would guess Z owns the Discord but idk

[crystal compass]

Will yall announce when the builds are considered stable ?

[hasty jasper]

i would think so as they have been announcing the unstable stuff too

[vernal moth]

its hard to say when something is stable

its stable when we didn't get bad issues in timeframe X I guess

[crystal compass]

hm

[left swift]

Mini so cool when he gives answers

[warm anchor]

Stable as you can not restart for a month

[crystal compass]

[warm anchor]

I did that before though the server is slow forgot I even have that test instance up

[uncut ginkgo]

if only i was smart enough to understand what was happening

[olive marlin]

I often keep my servers up for more than a month, never had issues.

[uncut ginkgo]

i dont have 24/7 hosting so thats a problem for me

[crystal compass]

Garbage collection

[warm anchor]

Same. Paper is really stable. At least 1.16.5

[uncut ginkgo]

[warm anchor]

Though my vanilla hasn’t crashed and it’s been 6 days

[uncut ginkgo]

i feel like i want them to rush but also not rush

i have confused emotions

[warm anchor]

Sir just wait!

[crystal compass]

sounds like you need to eat a cheese burger

[warm anchor]

Patient will give you a lot in life too!

or just join US army they will make you patient

[uncut ginkgo]

patience made me wait for straight 3 days until i given up and noticed it said cancelled

[crystal compass]

[uncut ginkgo]

did i accidentally woosh it

[craggy nest]

The Paper experimental builds are probably still more stable then any version of spigot

[uncut ginkgo]

paper experimental builds for 1.17 are super stable

CHANGE MY MIND

[left swift]

Ok moran

[warm anchor]

Lol

[quasi valley]

what's a moran

[left swift]

Eternity is a moran

Keep up knensworth

[quasi valley]

[left swift]

[warm anchor]

Hi upside down

[true canyon]

RAPID is neat.

[formal kindle]

🥴

😤

[potent fossil]

ok

[wispy blade]

ok

hi simplpe

[formal kindle]

Ok

[crystal compass]

yes intended behavior

https://gyazo.com/cdefb4b7017159b6b9594e15d9a6149f

[willow robin]

Liiieeessss 💀

[warm anchor]

It’s a joke about how they process everything so slow if you ain’t patient you will be going crazy already

[vernal moth]

https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1406342269519626242?s=19

Linus Tech Tips (@LinusTech)

round and around and around and around and around they go! https://t.co/OV7OGr9zAn

Likes

1122

Twitter · Jun 19, 2021, 8:05 PM

Cursed

[potent fossil]

lmao jfc

[willow robin]

Ik lmao 🤣

[ashen cliff]

Ram disk very epic.

[worn ember]

"Code orange" Thanks windows, i didnt notice the storm over my head

[upper flicker]

I had to turn it off

it looks so blurry and shit

[worn ember]

windows is trying so hard to do everything they do nothing right lol

yeah

the "sun" is just an orange blob

[upper flicker]

I dont know who greenlit the release before they fixed that

but its kinda embarassing

[potent fossil]

Yeah I turned it off as well. Looked like absolute trash.

[waxen panther]

true windows is really blurry and shit 😁

[worn ember]

who

[twin lagoon]

[worn ember]

while we're ranting, i hate discords command completion for external bots

its takes like half a second to load and then pops up at the top

making you fuck up autocomplete

[ashen cliff]

Bro.

[worn ember]

[upper flicker]

we're a bruh community

[worn ember]

how do you feel about taco's getting archived?

[upper flicker]

fine

it was discussed months ago

[worn ember]

wow ok boring

[upper flicker]

now I dont have to share with anyone

[worn ember]

i was hoping you'd be on the taco uprising but you're just a pleb

[upper flicker]

tacos are too good to share with all of you

[brave radish]

@worn ember you should replace "Memes" with "tacos"

[worn ember]

nah idc about tacos

[upper flicker]

we're past 22k members

cant afford to share with all of them

[hallow sonnet]

finally

[upper flicker]

get your own tacos smh

[hallow sonnet]

1.17 is released

[waxen panther]

@upper flicker

[upper flicker]

yus am hello

[quasi valley]

did you know 1.17 is released, z

[upper flicker]

2nd most interesting thing I heard about today

[hallow sonnet]

what is the 1st

[upper flicker]

[ashen cliff]

Should be tho.

[leaden brook]

how buggy is the test build?

[leaden brook]

oh god

i am gonna install this on my localhost

[left swift]

[hallow sonnet]

lol

[ashen cliff]

Thanks Oracle.

[left swift]

First is paper releasing test builds obviously bro

Yapaperia

[nova plume]

yes

Airpaper

Purper

Idk anymore

[hallow sonnet]

oh god

my server is crashed

lol

[worn ember]

omgerud

[mossy vessel]

No.

[worn ember]

this just crashed my pc

[left swift]

HAXM

[worn ember]

this apparently https://github.com/intel/haxm

[unkempt drift]

Is there a way to get a specific build with spigots BuildTools? Asking here cause I don’t really wanna be in the spigot discord 😛

Also, it’s #general

[golden gust]

sorta

either checkout the commits manually and there was a BT command do to that

or, basically, theres the rev number if youknowit

[worn ember]

[unkempt drift]

There are 2 rev numbers tho

One for craftbukkit and one for spigot right?

[worn ember]

50% chance to be right then ig

[oblique wedge]

When i am running the newest paper 1.17 build on my main server as if it was a production-ready build.

[worn ember]

BOTTOM TEXT

[vernal moth]

1100 servers already updated

https://c.tenor.com/-kZOB16tELEAAAAM/this-is-fine-fire.gif

[unkempt drift]

Oh can I just do the build number with —rev? I thought that was only for mc cersion

[vernal moth]

I can't wait to wake up tomorrow to 100s of issues

[golden gust]

rev can use a number

[oblique wedge]

Thats gonna be fun!

[worn ember]

at least it'll help improve the product

[upper flicker]

no

all of that will be getting updated in the days to come

[viral hornet]

Exciting announcement to wake up to!
Cheers to everyone who contributed for your hard work :happeepoheart:

Wtf why isn't my emoji working

Oml

[ornate dirge]

I would advise to add a property in paper.yml that is "production". If you consider the version too beta the server wont run if production = true

and also it should insult the user for trying a beta build in prod

and a link to "here get a stable build here. if you destroy the server is YOUR fault. asshole"

[unkempt drift]

I always forget how much nicer the paper console experience is over spigot

[upper flicker]

I think we just need to make our warnings clear and treat people like adults - even if they seem to constantly give us reasons not to

calling users asshole in a console message is uh sure something

[viral hornet]

[worn ember]

"ur server wont boot cuz u dum and i fukt ur mum last nite "

im sure that'll work

[night ivy]

max-chunk-section-index: 7

[worn ember]

9

[night ivy]

what does it mean